Why are some people like this? As in, completely incapable of admitting to being wrong in any way?

Sounds like /v/.

He's the best dune streamer

I'm glad people are finally waking up to how much of a cunt this guy really is.

>>714793906 (OP)
mooooom the evil twitter man is taking over the whole world we need to stop it now!!!

>>714793906 (OP)
Why are you asking this to people who refuse to admit they're wrong?

Mental illness. Dude would rather kill himself than just say “Yeah I was wrong, my bad”

>>714793906 (OP)
He should learn to let go lol

Because Thor is going to be ultimately in the right once the initiative is inevitably dismissed from the EU parliament.

People either will then switch sides again to shit on Ross, like they did with Karl/Billy Mitchell.

The truth is that places where legislations get passed are far out of reach of the court of the public opinion. A victory cannot be won in sheer numbers and just consensus that it's the "right thing".

>>714793906 (OP)
Surprised that ferrett fucker hasn't killed himself yet.

>>714793906 (OP)
Narcissists would kill themselves before admitting they're in the wrong

>>714794148
>Nebulous corporate suits across an entire industry taking advantage of international law that doesn't force them to take responsibility for gaps left by the monopolies and protections that they have been granted
>One guy saying "No this is bad and you're stupid" on social media
Humanity just isn't very well suited to rallying against more than approximately 3 people at a time.

>>714794459
>once the initiative is inevitably dismissed from the EU parliament.
how is that what's going to prove "thor" right if he was so afraid of losing his previous GAAS garbage due to the petition

>>714794459
Karl deserves worse. What that guy did is just spread awarness. Karl misled tards into thinking billy was some speedrunning final boss

>>714794459
But the EU loves regulating these huge tech companies because they can, see: GDPR, USB-C. This is the kind of shit eurocrats love.

Because of his retarded fanbase.

>>714793906 (OP)
It's called narcissism
there isn't exactly a shortage of narcissists online especially amongst streamers

>>714793906 (OP)
Games will be saved before PS had released his game.
Think about that.

>>714793906 (OP)
Why is the word
>killing
censored?

I can understand the N WORD - although that one is stuppid since we all say nigger - but doing shit like
>k*lling
>unalive
>corn instead of porn
is retarded as fuck.

>>714793906 (OP)
what was that thing similar to SKG way before the WoW drama that that maldavious took a negative stance on? I remember that was what made me dislike him in the first place.
Was that also SKG, But before it gained much traction?

>>714793906 (OP)
Narcisistic personality disorder. In the same way 'fake it till you make it' sort of works, it can be somewhat of an advantage to be delusional and pretend you are the greatest and never wrong and just keep moving forward. Theres no time for pity or self doubt, where honest people might get too into their own heads by accurately assessing their lack of skill and feeling unqualified. Tons of people were taken in by his con-artist behavior and fell for it.

>>714795936
Blame china. Tiktok drones are conditioned to avoid word filters so much at this point they censor themselves even on platforms without word filters.

entitlement and a huge ego.

>>714796128
It's pretty easy to be taken in when most peoples exposure to him were 25 second clips of him shitting on Blizzard. I mean how can somebody who shits on Blizzard be bad?

>>714794459
Nigger the only way shit gets done in modern democracies is if it's popular with voters. Your take is the dumbest shit I've ever read.

>>714794459
>Thor
It's Jason Hall the Malding Fagtree ferret rapist nepo baby roach. Please keep Scandinavian culture away from dysgenic furfag amerimutts. Thanks.

>>714795936
Tiktok retards using those to avoid censors. They also bring that shit everywhere else.

>>714795936
The AI powered content algorithms on social media sites will nuke your post's visibility if it determines it to not be family friendly, they do it to game the system. The same reason all those clip uploading channels put a blur censor AND a black and white filter on any violence, to trick the algorithm into not knowing what it's looking at.

>>714796421
And let's keep the words "piracy" and "software" away from that fag as well

>>714796380
um no sweaty, modern democracies decide all matters by checking which side lobbied the hardest

>>714793906 (OP)
Why is killing censored? We back in preschool?

>>714793990
>>714794174
this
/v/ is way worse when it comes to these tbqh

>>714796678
You can't earn money if AI censors caught you say that in a tiktok vid

see >>714796483
>>714796482

>>714794459
So even if it doesn't go through, I doubt anyone opinion will change of Thor because he's insufferable

>>714796721
>/v/ is one person
I see anons admit they re wrong all the time.

>>714796964
like to 10 v posts that openly admit to being wrong after having argued about something

>>714796964
ok 99% then
>all the time
maybe you are the few that look mostly at the positives because 99% of /v/ will NEVER admit they are wrong even when given the facts because despite all they say about facts and all their agenda comes before everything and anything

>>714795936
social media typically wont show your posts to underaged accounts if you have 'adult' words in it.

>>714796483
Shit's so bad that people have started cemsoring women's legs and cleavage

>>714794459
>once the initiative is inevitably dismissed from the EU parliament
They can't, anon. They have to respond. That's the whole point.

>>714794695
Doesn't matter if what he did "was worse", drama begets drama.
If the petition is thrown out, people will make fun of Ross, and if the bad ending happens to the petition (that being, game companies ARE allowed to destroy games), he'll be witch hunted for causing that to happen.

>faggot software still posting threads deflecting from the fact that everyone hates him over how he acted rather than him being against the initiative

>>714793906 (OP)
what a petty cunt

>>714793906 (OP)
I saw people in the wild genuinely defending ps and saying he was really smart and shit. Im just baffled how does a guy like this get a following

>>714797341
You are stupid.

>>714793906 (OP)
Kek even in defeat JASON tries to sound like the smartest ass in the room

>>714794459
The only way I can see the tide change is if Thor actually kills himself. Even then it'll probably take time and people will believe he faked his death to pity grift since this fucker keeps lying about everything.

>>714793906 (OP)
His is turning the thing into gamergate 3.

>>714797602
Gott Strafe Europa

>>714793906 (OP)
>Furry

>>714797381
Why are you so obsessed with him, Ross?

>>714797560
I listed reasonable conclusions, ones Ross himself raised as potential future issues.

>>714793906 (OP)
he's not wrong

>>714794784
I can imagine someone in EU parliament being pissed that they couldn't charge his phone borrowing another member's charger. Can't say the same for video games. I expect they'd fall for the old "support forever" argument.

>>714797052
sorry, i was making it up. i admit that no one on /v/ has ever admitted to being wrong.

>>714797602
I'm glad /v/ wasn't dumb enough to fall for this LARP.

>>714793906 (OP)
But he's not wrong. He hust has a different opinion

>>714793906 (OP)

>>714797859
The EU has come to similar conclusions over similar software issues (you bought it you own it) so it's really just expanding their already existing definitions to include vidya.

Didn't know who this guy was until like 7 months ago when the ashes of creation (before that game died) chased him away for being completely ass at it. Then the weird wow fuck up. He must be VERY annoying behind the scenes because almost no one is defending him.

What are the odds he doesn't "leave it there"?

>>714798218
>What are the odds he doesn't "leave it there"?
Everything for content.

>>714798218
100%.

>>714793990
FPBP

>eat my entire ass

is he gay or somethin?

>>714793906 (OP)
He very likely has Narcissistic Personality Disorder or some other Cluster B disorder.

>>714797316
The response:
>“tf is this incel shit about video toys lmao” *throws initiative in the bin*

What does it matter? There's no accountability for anything anymore so he will continue to succeed and you can't stop him.

>>714794459
>A victory cannot be won in sheer numbers and just consensus that it's the "right thing"

This you?

>>714793906 (OP)
He is making an army of people hate him, but also radicalizing his supporters to lick his anus in reaction to the hate.

He is unironically DSP mk2, he has lots of detractors and alog channels making thousands of dollars a month making videos shitting on him.

>>714797728
why are you replying to me, Fagtree?

>>714798307
He's a furfag

>>714797859
>finally buy your kid that game he's been nagging you about
>few months go by
>kid can no longer play the damn game
>feel robbed

>>714798395
dunno why but this picture cracks me the fuck up every time i see it

>>714794459
Being dismissed by the EU government isn't what I asked for therefore your scenario implies Jason was wrong

>>714793906 (OP)
Did he really say that? How petty can a mf be. I don't even pity him anymore, he seems like a cunt

>>714798435
I'm sure some 12 year old kid of some EU member was crying that Ubisoft's "The Crew"™ shut down a decade after launching. Definitely not you're schizophrenic delusions once again stalker.

>>714793906 (OP)
I think most people are like this at some level, probably over half anyway. They will do everything in their power to avoid being wrong, even if they have to introduce a much worse thing. Like there is more chance of Pirate Software suddenly out of the blue admitting to being a pedophile than there is to him admitting to being a bit wrong about this videogame thing.

>>714798406
>and alog channels making thousands of dollars a month making videos shitting on him.
Drama farming seems very profitable and easy content.

>>714793906 (OP)
The stop killing games being parroted as a purely positive thing is definitely going to end up in a "be careful what you wish for" situation.
The idea that the EU, who forced its nations to adopt attached bottle caps is going to enforce a gamer friendly solution to this, is beyond retarded.

>>714797052
>sir like to the post imedditly sir

>>714798740
NOoOoO not the bottle caps!
American corporations save me!!!!

>>714798698
If people didn't hate him, there would be no audience for it.

>>714793906 (OP)
This situation has proven that so many people have extremely weird relationships to online shithead content creators. People keep defending this retard nonstop. I had never heard of this bitch before the wow stuff, and then cheating in that puzzle game, now this.
Just realize he has an ego bigger than the sun, and is a complete fucking retard. Stop watching him

>>714798740
you can say you're retarded in less words

>>714796193
happens on youtube too
the internet is really fucked, I feel bad for people who don't know how good we had it in the 90s and 2000s

>>714794459
>nothing good will ever happen so stop trying to fix things

>>714798928
I mean not necessary about this guy, the mr beast drama made a lot of people a lot of money.

>>714793906 (OP)
In his case, genuine narcissism. People like him won't let their egos admit they're wrong.

>>714798616
>"Having gone through two puberties, I found myself inexplicably drawn toward those who never experienced any puberties whatsoever. And only in their company would I drop my everyday facade, only to humbly request that they eat my entire ass."

>>714798367
Why is SKG incel now?

>>714798903
This, but completely not sarcastic

>>714793906 (OP)
Truly the Hero we needed, but not the one we deserved.

>>714798740
The US can't even punish pedos.

If you
>know the name of a single e-celeb
>watch streamers
>watch youtubers
>follow gamers on social media
>use reddit
>have social media in any way, shape or form
you do not belong on /v/ and need to go back.

>>714798406
>radicalizing his supporters to lick his anus
>*invites unsuspecting victims to his hotel room*
>*locks door behind them*
>*unzips, lie down spreads his legs apart and his ass wide*
>You like that ass, huh? Come eat my entire ass like my ferrets do *smack*

>>714793906 (OP)
typical nepo baby

>"Going to be honest with you, I hope that your initi-"
ACK!

>>714799183
You are of course aware that 4chan counts as social media, yes? I mean, you are not that fucking retarded, are you?

>>714796380
>only way shit gets done in modern democracies is if it's popular with voters

>>714799170
Who cares about children they aren't related to nor know being molested? Literally not my problem.

>>714793906 (OP)
The real question is why do people care about what some guy thinks, but that's been normalized

>>714793906 (OP)
he just doesn't see any kind of circumstances under which he is incorrect

>>714799307
4chan is not social media. We've been over this a million times. Anyways you need to go back

anyone else seen him play a game you're good at?
for me it's warframe
>he claims he played it a lot
>according to his stream data he did
>but he gloats about his inaros build
>which is just using hirudo (heal on crit melee)
>plays it on stream
>gets shat on while playing steel path
>sits in elite sanctuary onslaught with a stat bloat frame (saryn) for the rest of the stream
pathetic

>>714798903
enjoy when this little gamer hissy fit turns into massive problems shipping games and software in the EU due to sudden new poorly thought out legislations.

which one of you faggots pulled the ocular???

>>714799365
You don't realize the influence those people have.

>>714799307
No it doesn't and it never will no matter how often you say it

>>714793906 (OP)
Its amazing how quicky he turned into a lowcow.

>>714793906 (OP)
No one he respects has ever said "no" to him. And he wasn't raised to be humble.

>>714799183
Having your head buried in the sand regarding matters which concern video games isn't the flex you think.

>>714793906 (OP)
he thinks people hate him cause of stop killing games. It's far worse than that, they hate him for what he is and his personality flaws. SKG was just the flame that lit the fuse, this is why the hate isn't going to die down and just keep on going.

>>714798435
Very good point, I forgot children exist.

If you really want to piss him off just let him know how much you appreciate him contributing to the success of the movement. Thank him without ceasing. It wouldn't be possible without you Thor, thank you!

>ferret fucker have an opinion

>>714793906 (OP)
>heh, you don't even know what you're asking for
Its pretty plainly stated on the website, dingdong

>>714799536
Obvious redditor

>>714793906 (OP)
but he's correct about skg

>>714799625
>ferret fucker has an opinion

>>714794459
>is inevitably dismissed from the EU parliament.
EU is not going to miss out on a chance to fuck over a bunch of US companies

They won bigly.

>>714799453
lol
lmao even
I wonder how long your little temper tantrum will continue. How deep are ubishits pockets to shill against this?

>>714799453
Thank you, I will enjoy that very much

Someone compared coding progress on his game with fucking Yandere Sim and fucking hell Alex is doing more coding than this faggot.
20 years of industry experience, working in a software designed to be used by beginners.

>>714793906 (OP)
don't know to much about this guy but he apparently makes gamer youtubers seethe endlessly, so that is a based individual in my book.

>>714799565
He is literally incapable of understanding why people would hate him

>>714793990
His speech literally sounds like the average /v/ contrarian with a side dose of Discord furfaggotry.
>Oh shit, now this is actually really dumb. It's used car salesman garbage. This is shit. It's shit. Not only do I not want to back this, I'm gonna actively tell people not to. That is awful. That a horrible god damn direction. That is awful dude. No. Eat my entire ass. The level of stupid I just had to receive was like sitting on Twitter for 12 hours. This shit sucks. That's a really stupid ass move. That's incredibly stupid ass move. I think this is ass. This is complete garbage. All of this can eat shit then. I drop the mask entirely. I have no qualms about that. They can eat my entire ass. The whole thing. That sounds stupid as shit.

>>714799841
If you think this ends in a "we will own our games" I envy your naivety

>>714793906 (OP)
>le being monkeypaw movement is le bideogames *sharts*
These threads are gay

>>714799490
I realize it, an audience of edgy teenagers is how we had all those 4chan happenings in 2000s and 2010s, now such an audience is held by guys like that

>>714799462
you did mr streamer

>>714799883
a bunch of coders looked over his shit, and they have no idea what it is, or its going to be a broken mess if releases. Whatever he is making isn't even real.

>>714800293
Which one? YandereDev or Piratesoftware?

>>714794459
no one is going to turn on fucking ross fucking lmao fucking aqua ferretfucker lover

>>714799793
It's funny how whenever the EU decides to come up with a new legislation that forces big companies to straighten their act out, the burgers come out of the woodwork to show just how deep their brainwashing runs.

>>714800363
pirates

>>714799793
holy le reddit meme

>>714799183
>no
>no
>only non-vidya things
>no
>only for gooning
>only for gooning
Do I belong /v/v

>>714793906 (OP)
This retard claims to have gotten swatted two times now.

>>714800293
Its never going to release and he has such a bad reputation that any hopes of the game selling are basically nullified.
He may as well cancel it and start from scratch, disappear from the internet and get a new identity. But his ego won't allow that

>>714793906 (OP)
onions girlman says gay thing, why is /v/ bothered? not very cool of you lot

>>714799759
which then is going to fuck over everyone living in the EU

>>714800763
>Oh no businesses have obligations to paying customers!!!
>This will undermine society!!

I also love e-celebs, I'm watching Layla now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1pqktCOjAU

>>714800418
If you think the EU has its regular citizens best interest in mind, you should re-evaluate who is being brainwashed.

>>714800763
in what way? Last time i checked Apple is still selling stuff in EU after losing to them.

>>714799883
Yandere boy actually wanted to be a programmer at some point, he's just bad at it.
Not even irreparably so, just should've done some smaller projects before the open world immersive sim bullshit. Game jam or two and you really internalize how you should be pacing your calls and bottlenecking player output, he's like average industry programmer bad not even that notable.

Pirate? Pirate just wants to yap and get paid for it. You don't get any excuses for his shit work when you're on an Undertale clone, 2D no-physics and your direct competition is a fucking musician who knows the bare minimum because he was too broke for contractors, Mr Cybersec.

I'll leave this here.

>>714800763
I'd like to ask you how, i really want to see what dumb fucking shit you come up with.

>>714794459
>Nothing will change so stop trying to change things, goy!

>>714801045
>Not even irreparably so
Actually wrong. He was given a chance to become a better programmer when working with that dude from tinyBuild, but instead he booted him off the project.

>>714798615
>you're
your indian hahahahahahahaha good morning saaaaaar

>>714801045
>Pirate? Pirate just wants to yap and get paid for it.
That's not fair, he also wants to doodle in ms paint

>>714801109
and I really want to see what dumb fucking shit the EU will come up with when they start discussing what ultimately ends up dealing with copyright laws.

>>714801383
>tinyBuild
The publisher? I didn't know they made stuff.

>>714801615
Nothing here deals with copyright laws dumbass

>>714793906 (OP)
>SKG will kill live service games
Good. e"sports" were a mistake.

>>714793906 (OP)
>>714799767
>>714798307
This guy looks really off putting and odd, he looks
a lot like that movie reviewer who rapes dogs

>>714799125
leftoids have been in the side of multinationals for decades already anon

>Maldavius said he had to step away from his partnership with offbrand because they were being review bombed because of him
>None of them were being review bombed
>The only one that was being bombed due to him was his own shitty undertale ripoff
Can this faggot physically not tell the truth or something?

>>714794534
this. my mother was always like this and still is.

>>714801634
tinyBuild proposed to help development of the game and publishing it but YandereDev just booted them out after a few weeks, probably after he got told that his game has to be rewritten from scratch

>>714802012
Just turkish physiognomy. They just look like that sometimes.
This dipshit has enough to criticize on his active mistakes without going into stuff he couldn't control.

>>714801104
Sony uses a stripper to represent them?

>>714802062
You dont understand, he NEEDS to be the victim so he can get sympathy again.
He got swatted TWO times.
He caught covid twice and lost 9 months of dev time
He worked at blizzard!

>>714793906 (OP)
He's already said this ordeal caused him to get swatted twice
What more harassment do you want to inflict on him, isn't two swats already enough?

>>714802258
Third times the charm

he was right tho

>>714800030
>It's used car salesman garbage. This is shit. It's shit. Not only do I not want to back this, I'm gonna actively tell people not to
Honestly if someone would've wrote this out of nowhere without context, I would've thought it was just /v/ contrarian

It's called clickbaiting and it's working because you cannot stop giving him attention.

>>714794459
>A victory cannot be won in sheer numbers and just consensus that it's the "right thing".

Underage people are incapable of understanding this fact. They are so used to their zoom zoom "L + ratio" mentality and memes that they genuinely embrace ad populum fallacy. To them the initiative getting 1 million signatures makes it good (even if it only got to that point thanks to e-celeb drama and NPCs obeying their favorite youtuber telling them to sign).

OP himself thinks that the initiative having lots of votes proves Pirate Software wrong. Something being supported by a million people doen't make it right, good or corrrect. Millions of people believed earth was flat years ago. Millions of people took the covid vax.

>>714801816
So you think a company that ships a piece of software that usually heavily depends on proprietary 3rd party libraries and tooling can be "owned" by the end user without heavy changes to copyright laws?
If this is the level of thought put in to this initiative and the EU ends up taking it seriously, we are screwed to put it mildly.

>>714802352
He has lost a shitton of viewership he certainly is not winning

>>714793906 (OP)
I sincerely hope this furry faggot gets what he fucking deserves

>>714802410
hes still got thousands of sycophants that love donating him mconey

>>714795635

Is there a bigger reddit word and more overabused than "narcissist"?

>>714802138
Lol. Probably technically needed to be with those component calls, I'm sure they just pulled a guy from an internal studio and that guy knew his shit to some degree.
But also indie publishers are obnoxious and infamously terrible, not too inclined to hold it against him. Of all his problems, and he's got a lot, not working well with indie publishers is like a standard.

>>714802401
>copyright laws?
You don't lost copyright protection because you released some code for free you fucking moron. Your stupid ass is bringing up something that is completely irrelevant to the discussion.

>>714794459
are you retarded or just a liar?

>>714793906 (OP)
>K*lling

>>714802471
Is this guy really that much worse than all the other vidiya youtubers? He seems to have found his niche youtube grift and is eating good in his corner with little competition.

>>714802471
That continues to go down day by day, and that man's ego absolutely takes a hit as he realizes it.

>>714794459
>Democracy bad just don't bother even voting.
This post sounds very jewish.

>>714802471
Cucks gonna cuck

>>714802356
Reddit spacing, didn't read

>>714802723
Most vidya youtubers just play their videogames and drama farm sometimes

Piratesoftware is honestly not that bad up until he started lying about the SKG stuff to support corporations, really shows hes a scumbag

>>714802627
>some code for free.
You obviously don't know how modern software is put together. How is this some code going to stop killing your game anon?

>>714793906 (OP)
Being opposed to SKG is the only thing he was ever right about lmao

>>714794459
when you start a post like that it immediately sounds like someone that says "it's x not twitter"

>>714802541
"Grifter" for sure

>>714799307
It doesn't count because I use it.

>>714802861
>give server libraries
>players can now host the game on their own, and devs can shut down their own

>>714794141
Funny enough him losing his reputation was all his fault. If he shut up, he wouldn't be in this situation

>>714803102
But how will we send aid to Israel if people aren't buying newest thing?

>>714803102
>give server libraries
and if these server libraries are made with heavy use of licensed 3rd party software that the company itself don't have the source code rights to. What happens then?
They opensource some random bits of inhouse server code and now your game is not dead?

Remember when he saw 1 (ONE) popup from some shitty norton-tier firewall and single-handedly unmasked the guy behind the 0day RCE hacks in Apex? Man I wish I was as smart as him

>>714803405
> Streamer tells his own viewers he doesn't support the initiative
>> The creator of the initiative knows without drama it wlil die down
>> He urges everyone to threaten, dox, attack and bully Pirate Software
>> Drama blows up
>>> This is actually all his fault because of how he was dressed

You guys are pathetic losers. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and he didn't go over to your house to tell it to you, he did so in his own space to his own fanbase. You're getting triggered someone you don't know said an opinion on the internet.
I feel sorry for you.

>>714798457
it's the C&C one for me

>>714803583
>and now your game is not dead?
As someone who used to reverse-engineer MMO network protocols for fun, yes. This would make writing server emulators 1000% easier.

>>714803583
>the source code rights to.
server libraries are not source code you retard. You have no idea what you are talking about, stop posting.

>>714793990
I was able to admit being wrong about the initial doom posting when deltarune dropped.
And I'm usually a pretty free flowing kinda guy

>>714793906 (OP)
>I hope you get what you asked for, but nothing you asked for.

>>714803728

>>714803583
I guess nobody can ever make any games again ever then. Definitely not possible that some other companies would see the free money to be made in making law compliant libraries. Nope, just shut it down folks, nothing to see here.

>>714802094
No I'm not you're crazy what?

>>714801104
> video games EUROPE
> precisely ONE european company on board
> but several japanese ones
I love globalism

>>714803902
mom for fucks sake haven't I asked you to get off of 4chan enough times already

>>714803958
not to mention several of them are now under microsoft, and 2 of them, embracer, and ubisoft are broke.

Publishers have gotten away with way too fucking much over the years, I'm glad to see them shaking in their boots for a change. In a saner world SKG would have happened years ago when these greedy assholes stopped pretending they weren't acting to shaft players over ownership of the games they bought but the boiling frog syndrome worked to their advantage. But better late than never.

God I really hope their usual corpo bullshit and smug condescension get slapped down by the EU. It would make the last years of watching their smarmy bullshit worth it.

>>714803662

This corpo shill made up retarded arguments to fight against it and refused to engage with any of the actual substantive points, or anyone who's knowledgeable about the initiative.

Fuck off Jason.

>>714803662
>doesn't know how to greentext properly
>pathetic attempt to co-opt the word trigger
>I feel le sorry for you!
reddit

>>714803583
sucks to suck, should have written their own
I love this fucking argument, as if we don't have decades of software development where companies just made their own shit. But no, all modern jeet devs know is mashing middlewares together, so that's just ancient lost technology now.
Same shit with websites, it's just a bunch of javascript frameworks slapped together, and it all performs like dogshit

>>714804136
Did people forget about the Wow drama he was involved with

>>714803958
All 16 seats of the Europe Vidya Clique should be under the control of the Ubisoft Paneuropean mandate

>>714804196

I don't think anyone forgot but it's irrelevant to the SKG initiatve to begin with.
At most it shows a pattern of behavior.

He's just a smarmy cunt..

>>714802058
Stop doing this shit.
Trying to do whole "left vs right" with corporations is idiotic. It's what corpos wants whenever elite is being threatened.

PirateSoftware x Blacked collab

>>714804196
people forgot WoW

it's just no longer possible to make a dedicated server, the tech-priests simply do not understand how the technology works anymore

>>714804196
Forget? It's pretty much the catalyst for his downfall, his inability to admit fault and constant lying, people just started to dig into his other activities.

>>714804364
>b-but muh skill-based matchmaking

>>714793906 (OP)
>everything you asked for
>but nothing you wanted
.. what?
Everything it asks for is everything people want from it
Future games preserved

>>714802356
Not an argument. Things are not good or bad based in numbers, but large groups are the best at forcing something to change.

>Going to be honest with you.
>I hope that your initiative gets everything that you asked for, but nothing you wanted.
>And I'll leave it there.
What does that even mean? Especially
>I hope that your initiative gets everything that you asked for, but nothing you wanted.
Can someone please explain?

>>714804461
He thinks that it asks for something it doesn't ask.
He thinks he knows what the initiative is about, but also insists that anyone who questions his view is wrong.

>>714793906 (OP)
>>714793990
kek I literally said something like this when my friend me asked me why I didn't support this crap

>>714803895
It is a very possible outcome that the EU will make it a lot harder for companies to ship games within the EU that rely on libraries the companies themselves can't open source.
This initiative then relies on the games market being strong enough that new companies can compete with the big boys and give EU compliant libraries while turning a profit, and that the games companies are willing to use these libraries for shipping games in the EU

>>714803662
Man the contrarianism has gotten out of hand.

>>714804489
>but large groups are the best at forcing something to change.

You seriously believe that? lmao. You nedd a reality check badly.

>>714804461
>>714804528
the piRAT thinks the if the initiative passes, it will cause live-service games, MMOs, etc. to not get developed anymore, which...
1. BASED BASED BASED fuck gachaslop
2. has absolutely no connection to reality

>>714803662
>He urges everyone to threaten, dox, attack and bully Pirate Software
More lies from the antis. They just can't help themselves.

>>714804643

Better a contrarian than an NPC obeying daddy asmongold and penguinzoo telling you to support skg.

>>714804170
There is no talent left in the games industry. It's as you say just a bunch of libraries slapped together by wagie devs who don't care about the end product.

>>714793906 (OP)
When have the people ever changed anything? matter of fact they do make changes.... for the worse. Idiots who cant conceive the outcome of their actions are in control of this "movement"

>>714804795
so instead you just obey what, ubisoft, microsoft, sony?

>>714804461
It's just some dumb reddit shit he thought would sound cool. If you take two seconds to think about it, which I know is asking too much of his audience, what he's really saying is "I hope this fucks everyone over so I can be right". Absolutely deranged. You could even call it insane shit. *stretches* nah dude

>>714804680
It's always been the case. There's a reason tyrants prefer their populations hungry and busy.

>>714804831
If you want to do nothing then you are free to fuck off.

>>714804857

Or how about you're honest and don't care about the initiative like you didn't care before there was e-celeb drama around it?

The initiative has been around since 2020 yet you guys only started to care NOW after the Pirate Software drama.
DO you not find it pathetic you SUDDENLY had an epiphany and started to care about online videogames dying AFTER your favorite vtuber told you to?

>>714804737
basically pic related

>>714804528
>Can someone please explain?
He hopes that SKG technically succeeds but fails in practice. Something like the EU parliament taking some measures following the initiative with those backfiring and making things worse and devs getting away with it, or publishers walking away from the European market altogether, video games dying etc.

tldr he's seething in a passive-aggressive way.

>>714804831
>t.
When did the fucking Chinese legalists enter the thread???

>>714804983
nigger no one ever heard about it till last fucking year, nice fucking cope, not all of us worship ecelebs, or apparently corporations like your dumbass does

>>714804528
>Rise and, shine. Anon. Rise and, shine.
>Not that I wish to imply that you've been sleeping on that petition- No one is more deserving of praise. Or all the reddit posts would have gone to waste.
>Until... well. Let's just say you'll get everything you asked for, but nothing you wanted...
>The right bill in the wrong parliament. Can make all the diff-erence. In the world. So, wave up. Anon. Wake up and. check the threads.

>>714804983
Anon this has been around in any actionable respect since precisely last year. All previous avenues used failed because the UK literally didn’t read it.

>>714804737
I've heard some people enjoy the single player wow servers. It would be nice when I get the itch to go questing through westfall again.

>>714804528
It's just a passive aggressive comment with the faint threat of the EU actually slamming the hammer down on these practices with the result being online games won't get developed anymore because they'd have to keep it online forever or provide the players with offline or private server tools.
It's misrepresenting the initiative for one and second, who would honestly really lament the loss of any live service shithole?

Meanwhile, several old as fuck games like Guild Wars 1, Quake live are still running and steam has a gigantic list of private server tools, immediately proving him wrong.
I think he just wanted to act like a cool contrarian shit but it all blew up in his face.

>>714804983
>yet you guys only started to care NOW after the Pirate Software drama
Who's you guys? I saw SKG on /v/ pretty regularly. You landed in the wrong place for this lame talking point.

>>714803817
OK anon, so what are they then? If they game companies license libraries they don't even have source code access to, that only complicate things even further.

>>714793906 (OP)
>everything you asked for but nothing that you wanted
At this point I can't tell if he's clinically retarded or was just born without a functioning brain. Can someone just start mailing him dead ferrets so he ropes himself or something?

>>714804528
>I'm a petty fuck who got really mad when someone called me out on my bullshit
>But I can't say that I want this to fail because it'll make everyone upset
>So I'll say that I want it to fail in some roundabout way

>>714798307
>is he gay or somethin?
yes. he roleplays as a dog while fucking men

>>714804737
I don't get why anyone would assume this initiative will kill live service
All it asks for is that these live services, upon being closed officially, will provide the tools and means for players to keep playing the game on their own, offline, or on a private server.
Naturally, this would mean all the gacha, lootboxes and cosmetics would be "free" or the new host (of a private server) would be able to adjust the requirements for getting them.
Naturally, they should make them strictly non-profit so that nobody who hosts an ex live-service game can be allowed to sell or monetize it by any other means than donations.

>>714804857
Do you really think that you skgfags can say this when you're signing so you can obey them?

>>714804983
>The initiative has been around since 2020
no it has not, why the are you lying?

@714804983
>catposter
>retarded
And all is well with the universe.

>>714793906 (OP)
What does that even mean? Does he think this is deep or good prose?

>>714805328
>when you're signing so you can obey them?
Really, where, can you show me where i am obeying someone else and not acting of my own volition? Cmon lets see what retarded cope you come up with brownoid

>>714805328
>you're signing so you can obey them
Explain yourself.

>>714793906 (OP)
"Content Creators" can't afford to admit their wrong on anything. Once they do their audience loses trust in them and they bleed subs.

>>714804528
He's totally the victim who was in the right but he's just a single lone voice of reason in a sea of irrational and angry incels.

>>714805190
Hell Thor was the only one who noticed it before anyone else and due to him being an asshole about it and throwing a hissy fit, it literally made SKG more popular. Dude's literally a walking Streisand Effect

>>714804795
You forgot to bring up grumz unsolicited for the hattrick of reddit deflection

>>714805328
I don't get it either.

ubishart made a stinky in their eula, now apparently what they're selling is products and not mere licences

>>714804983
The initiative is literally only a year old, and we've been having threads since the very beginning. It was up to 450k signatures before this, which while nowhere near enough, is still a respectable number and that's more than enough people interested to sustain threads on here.

>>714793906 (OP)
I know that this has become a buzzword lately but I'm pretty sure it's because he's an actual clinical narcissist.

>>714805582
Is it new? What game displays this?

>>714793906 (OP)

OP, it's because he's a narcissistic sociopath with the mind of a child that can't be reasoned with!!!FACT!!!

>>714805425
Well for starters you don't know what the initiative is even about.
Second it literally exists for people who can't help themselves. Do you know what the main argument for it was last year?
>I shouldn't have to research what I'm buying
I have absolutely zero respect for any corporate cocksucker signing this when, if you actually had morals, you could gave just not bought the game.

>>714793906 (OP)
I'm glad my favorite gacha will be fine since they basically packaged the game with the server code, cause they Don't know how to hide shit, complete accidental compliance with potential eurolaw.

>>714803662
>> He urges everyone to threaten, dox, attack and bully Pirate Software
I will not hear such slander against the Moldman PBUH

>>714793906 (OP)
Why is he seething about this shit anyway? I don't get it.

You can tell it's mainly paid shills and AI when people pretend Ross is some nobody who came from nowhere.
The dude was one of the power-lifters of Machinima and somehow managed to make a moderately successful channel even after he got thoroughly ripped off and fucked over by them.

>>714805691
I think its' their generic eula
https://www.ubisoft.com/legal/documents/eula/en-US

>>714804857
If the choice is sony or some gamer youtuber twitch influencer I will pick sony every time

>>714805582
>now apparently what they're selling is products and not mere licences
They're not mutually exclusive. The licence to play the game you bought IS the product.

>>714805582
>You purchase, download or use the product
>destroy all copies of the Product
Yeah this clearly excludes any "muh selling a license" shenanigan. What game?

>>714805728
>instead of answering he deflects into an entirely different argument
Dumbfuck LOL

>>714805582
>You MUST immediately uninstall!
What if I don't.

>>714805846
>The licence to play the game you bought IS the product.
How can I destroy a licence? A digital one at that.

>>714805896
black samurais will invade your house

>>714793906 (OP)
It's called narcissism

>>714794695
Karl did nothing wrong. The judge was just an old, retarded boomer.

>>714804795
>I am a a free thinker of sorts you could say, I form my own opinions from facts, logic and science, everyone else? Hmph, don't make me laugh... I study for my knowledge, boots on the ground. I didn't read about gravity, I felt it. I didn't learn math, I came up with it... You peasants? Pah. Hahaha. I bet you get your """education"""" and """information"""" from books and the news. Followers. I am the lone wolf, you are the sheep. Keep praying to your invisible sky daddy loool

>>714805805
Because he's part-owner of a publisher that exclusively peddles GaaS/live-service slop.
There isn't a single ideological angle in the opposition, it's literally kikes and their corpo shills screeching as if the sky's falling because their profit streams will dip by 0.2%

>>714805728
>sucking corporate cock is when you let them do what they want
Very interesting. I don't buy AAA sloppa but I'm all in on any initiative that gives consumers more ownership. Have a shit day, fag.

>>714804528
>>714805276
>>714805404
>>714805687
Piratesoftware's got an ace up each sleeve. When the EU whateverthefuck convenes they will all be assassinated by top Blizard ninjas

>>714805815
>>714805582
It's not new.
The "product" is still just a license.
>UBISOFT (or its licensors) grants You a non-exclusive, non-transferable, non-sublicensed, non-commercial and personal license to install and/or use the Product (in whole or in part) and any Product (the “License”), for such time until either You or UBISOFT terminates this EULA.
Problem remains the same though.

>ive proven you wrong by screeching like a nigger
uh.. yeah, sure..

>>714806015
Doesn't make that sentence any less cringey to say.

>>714805324
Because it is being deliberately misinterpreted by shills, who claim if will force companies to keep servers up forever, and so no-one will want to develop such games so that they don't get stuck supporting it forever. This is something that has been addressed a thousand times over, and yet is constantly repeated - to an extent that honestly makes me think Ubisoft must have hired one of those guerilla marketing firms at the start of this thing, to distribute this talking point and muddle the waters deliberately.

>>714805582
>terminate the EULA at any time
Cool so i terminate now and don't have to do shit, because its terminated, what fucking retard wrote this

>>714803662
It's funny how troons always lie.

>>714805687
Real shit, I agree with you. There's armchair psychology and then there's actual clinical psychology that allows you to diagnose certain personalities. And I think in this case the guy is a narcissist.

>>714805896
SAAR DESTROY THE PROGRAM

>>714794073
You talking about cohcarnage I guess

>>714806029
see
>>714805943
And also how can you make me DESTROY a PRODUCT which I purchased? Ubisoft's own words btw.

>>714805943
>How can I destroy a licence? A digital one at that.
The same way you would a game.

>>714805582
Can somone just put a fucking bullet in this shitty ass company already?

>>714805772
If anything Pirate Software would be the one doing the threats to Ross

>>714806002
This
It's just profitable to kill games and keep the fomo train rolling.
Live service games would die out almost overnight if the option to just run a private server of the game, without monetization, were a reality.
All pirate is doing is protecting his bottom line, same as all the corps trying the same. Because pirate's a corpo, in spite of the heavily curated image.

>>714803662
Is it headcanon sundays today?

>>714806224
I can break a disc.
Can't break a digital licence.

>>714804680
How did only one person catch the most Jewish post I've ever seen? This is gold. I heard a million Rabbis cry out in pleasure reading this.

>>714803583
You don't need to release source code to release a dedicated server or LAN mode. Lots of old games never had source code released but are still playable via compatibility layers, community patches or emulation.
If the middleware license is so fucked that you couldn't even release it in binary form, the vendors would need to fix that, or they'd lose sales from any devs who want to release in the EU? Doesn't seem that hard

>>714793906 (OP)
Why should he? Admitting you are wrong is a sign of weakness. Stand your ground like the men of old

>>714793906 (OP)
never even heard of this astroturfed tranny until he started getting spammed here recently. fake and gay. no one cares about this fag's opinions

>>714803583
>what happens then?
then your game will not be legal to sell in the EU?

>>714805896
They installed mustard gas for people like you

>>714793906 (OP)
thor is such an insufferable faggot. What kind of mush brain watches his content?

>>714793906 (OP)
I think he's close to the truth this time.
Asking the EU to regulate something even more is akin to wishing upon the monkey's paw.

>>714805896

>>714805687
>>714806149
Shouldn't be particularly surprising alot of public people tend to have narcissistic tendencies if not just being one outright.
they gravitate to positions of power like mosquitoes to a bugzapper

>>714799453
I a game is dogshit enough to require always online to play I don't want it even released.

>>714797859
>Kid spends 65 gorillion on microtransactions
>"Hey timmy, can I see all that shit you bought?"
>"Sorry mom, that game closed down. I need your credit card for new game."

>>714806242
he's working on it >>714798395

>>714802356
Moron sheer numbers is how your woke shit is so prevalent. When a large group of people are uniting it starts sending warning signals to those in power. What stops then cancelling their next turn for example.

>>714806282
Yes you can by deleting it permanently.
In that event you've probably already had it removed from your digital library so you just delete it.

>>714793906 (OP)
narcissism and sociopathy is a hell of a mix

>>714793906 (OP)
BASED

>>714805270
No one is licensing servers, you fucking retard, that would be incredibly stupid. Imagine every time you want to update shit, you have to go through a third party, every game that has its own servers is hosted by the devs. Your stupid ass is bringing one dumb brownoid point after another

>>714806371
Burgers are so retarded.

>>714793906 (OP)
>K*lling
why the fuck do I keep seeing this everywhere?

>>714805812
>make a moderately successful channel
to be fair, he had to subsist on canned beans and breathe mold for a while, so he's not *that* successful, he just has low living standards

>>714795936
Shadowbans on social media are real and this is one of the trigger words.

>>714806451
>sheer numbers is how your woke shit is so prevalent.

It literally isn't.

>>714798080
I mean that's all I really care about. I buy it, I own it. Don't arbitrarily stop supporting it. Let it function in some way.

>>714805270
>license libraries they don't even have source code access
you dont need source code for these libraries, everyone who brings up source code needs to shoot themself, you guys are too god damn stupid.

>>714806534
Tiktok brainrot rules

>>714806371
>SURELY THE GUIDING HAND OF THE FREE MARKET WILL SAVE US
the (((free market))) is what got us here in the first place
do you not find it interesting that the opposition comes exclusively from globohomo megacorps and their paid shills?

>>714806290
Releasing middleware licensed binaries to the consumer is not a straight forward process, and for server side stuff it might even be licensed to very specific pieces of hardware or cloud service providers. It's a heap of legal matters that would suddenly have to be factored into the budget of a game project.

>>714805896

>>714794534
The most fascinating thing I've heard about narcissists is how they handle their own mortality. They basically suffer a breakdown, their usual tendencies going into overdrive as they blame everyone and everything around them for the fact that there's nothing that can be done to prevent their impending demise. It's an ego that cannot suffer to be degraded faced with the most implacable of universal forces. They end up alienating everyone around them and dying alone in many cases.

Anyways I don't think that pirate is even the worst guy in the world. I'm sure he's pissed off more people behind closed doors but the stuff he's done out in the open is petty shit. I think the bigger reason he's getting so much negative attention is that he set himself up as a big good guy wholesome chungus and then shattered people's perceptions thereof by having such a clearly fragile ego.

Like nobody would give a shit if Asmongold did the WoW hardcore roach fucky wucky because nobody thinks that Asmongold is some kind of aspirational figure, and Asmongold would probably say "Yeah, I ran to save my skin, sucks for you lol, sorry." And that'd be the end of it. It's explicitly the fact that he got into that situation and then cannot admit any fault for it that skeeves people.

>>714806546
Stop Reddit spacing.

>>714806308
The fact that some of you retards here actually believe this actually explains a whole lot. Never admitting that you're wrong isn't a sign of strength it's actually very weak. Women and niggers behave like that. Are you either?

>>714806546
So a larger group of schizos will get more done than a smaller group of schizos?

>>714793906 (OP)
Lmao he just won't stop. Just like the signatures coming in. Poetic.

>>714794784
>GDPR
What a massive fucking failure that one was, completely unenforceable.

>>714806540
He makes ~5k a month and lives in Poland, while putting less than a video a month
>Archive pic
Yeah, you never watched him

>>714799289
Zamn, SKGChads look like THAT?

>>714806667
>Solution is to design games around P2P and private servers, the same way they were for 20+ years prior to esports slop
Oh no that's terrible I'd hate that so much

>>714806740
Not according to anon.

How are there streamers still peddling the bullcrap that piratefaggot spread initially about SKG? Holy fuck! Do people not do their own research? Unirinically the damage he did to SKG was not erased since there are still people peddling his snakeoil. How can videogame streamers/youtubers be so fucking dumb to fall for that faggots lies? How can they be so stupid not to understand videogames and multiplayer? SIGN THE FUCKING INITIATIVE!!! Don't let the retardation win!

>>714806754
I've been watching since around the middle of Freeman's Mind 1

>>714806203
Yup, that's the problem, that's why we signed the intitiative.
>When we say so you must take that shit behind the barn and end its suffering.
But we don't want to do that. Why would anyone do that? It doesn't even make sense in a commercial perspective, it has never existed in history. Because it doesn't make sense.
By the way, under the 2011 EU Directive for consumer protections, "games" (not even "videogames") are *not even* considered "products" the same way gambling games and casino games are.
It's a complete grey area. It's lawlessness. The problem is in the end if they sue it's gonna be who can pay the biggest lawyer team to build the biggest case, and it will always be the corporation.

>>714806308
Men of old did not consider narcisism to be a virtue.

>>714793906 (OP)
Thor is the hero we need, but not the one we deserve.
So, /v/'ll hate him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero: He's the voice of reason, a blizzard dev, the one man who will save gaming.

>>714806754
How does Ross make 5k a month with barely 300k subscribers? Does Jewtube actually pay that well?

>>714806841
Their job isn't to read or say anything true it's to peddle slop for views

>>714806841
Because if they support the initiative, they will lose their sponsors.

i see we've gone from "control the narrative" to "break consensus/derail" to the nuclear option "flood all threads with schizoid LLM posts"
just sign the petition EU bros
i hate the antichrist

>>714794459
>all this cope

>>714806740

Neither you retard. Schizos and you terminally online incels won't get shit done no matter what.

Your claim that WOKE has huge numbers is wrong, nearly everything woke fails because the very few woke people there are don't even consume the product.

>>714806938
You're both faggots

>>714806526
I'm literally from the EU. What they are doing to software development is a disgrace. It's micro-management that makes it harder for indie creators to do anything. It adds red tape to something that was never a problem.
see this upcoming garbage https://connectontech.bakermckenzie.com/new-eu-regulation-requires-cybersecurity-for-software-and-smart-devices/
But I mean I am aware it's not allowed to criticize muh ebin heckin save le gamerinos because it's just perfect.

>>714806605
providing licensed binary blobs to end users is even tricker as libraries used in server side software normally gets licensed to a very specific set of server hardware or cloud service providers. You anons really don't think anything through do you?

>>714794784
Pop-up headlights...
Not explicitly banned, but the product of pedestrian safety measures.
On the other hand, airbags are not mandatory in the EU lol.

>>714806953
his mega fans give him donations

>>714806667
These idiots think that because they can run a 16 player Counter Strike server on their home PC, they can run an MMO server too. You're arguing with literal children who don't know the first thing about computers lmao

>>714806786
>developers should be legally required to design game a certain way instead of having freedom to do whatever they want
>because uhhhhhh I'm nostalgic for the games that were popular when I was 14
Braindead take.

>>714806953
Direct donations, also I was mistaken, he makes between 2-4k, ~3k.
https://www.accursedfarms.com/donation_history/

>Digital Content Directive (2019/770): This directive mandates that digital goods, like video games, remain functional for a reasonable period after purchase. If a game becomes unplayable due to server shutdowns—compounded by EULA terms that prevent workarounds or preservation—SKG could claim this violates the directive’s requirements.

Thanks Heliios.

>>714806084
>makes me think Ubisoft must have hired one of those guerilla marketing firms at the start of this thing, to distribute this talking point and muddle the waters deliberately
You're not wrong thinking that way. This is exactly how those firms work. They flood social media and push whatever talking point best helps the cause they were paid to support, and for some reason they think normies actually understand or care what a "live service" game is.

>>714807001
A most auspicious development, anon. Consult the shill thermometer.

>>714793906 (OP)
what a spiteful faggot

>>714807134
Developers can eat shit and so can you, nigger

>>714807174
>Unfair Contract Terms Directive (93/13/EEC): This law allows courts to invalidate contract terms that create a significant imbalance between the rights of consumers and sellers, to the detriment of the consumer. If Ubisoft’s EULA includes a clause requiring users to destroy a game (e.g., upon termination of service or license), SKG could argue that this is disproportionately harsh, especially for physical copies or games that could function offline.

>>714806808
He got stuck in a hypocritical loop like they always do by trying to downplay the unity required. Its never been some special secret thing. Just that everyone couldn't be assed before but after decades of bs and the situation getting worst for everyone it wont just be games.

>>714799289
Mold: 1
Corpocuck software: 0

>>714806953
donations: https://www.accursedfarms.com/donations/ (it's really inflated currently since Louis Rossman donated 2.8k on stream, and I assume this made a bunch more people aware of the donations - https://www.youtube.com/live/Gd2_FvvqyR0?t=5570)

but it's hardly 5k as that anon claims - it's 2-3k most months: https://www.accursedfarms.com/donation_history/

Hey /vee/, I was inspired by the Ross Man's recent video on lobbyist response and how it said that politicians will need explaining what vidya are and why killing them is bad. Since you know what vidya are and might have useful input, I whipped up something simple on Github to collaborate:

>https://github.com/Wesmania/game-life-report

I hope you'll find it useful. I'll be chipping away at it myself in my free time. Inb4 muh dox, yadda yadda.

>>714807134
>Freedom to do whatever they want is always good for the consumer

>>714807053
exactly what I have been trying to explain to some EU loving anons in here. EU is not going put and end to the killing of games in a way that will be sunshine and rainbows for the average gamer.

>>714807053
>makes it harder for indie creators to do anything

Source? Sounds like bullshit. Just making sure you aren't lying here.

>>714807134
I can spin up projecteq right now and host an MMO on my home computer.

>>714806667
>>714807059
Middleware vendors would have to make it easy or they couldn't sell the middleware. Why would you voluntarily add a dependency to your project that makes it impossible to sell your game in the EU? Nothing is that critical.

>>714807153
Can you really comfortably afford a house along with utilities and other shit in Poland on 36k a year?

>>714807240
We're reaching record temperatures with this one.

>>714807059
I love how you keep going on "licensed" as if the devs own company doesn't own it. They are not buying 3rd party server libraries. You have no idea how game dev works. There is nothing here remotely complicated here. You are blatantly not a programmer. Why are you even posting this shit when you are entirely clueless?

>>714793906 (OP)
>pirate software
don't mind if i do

>>714795936
I don't think the replies you got were wrong, but the reality is even worse: People don't know what the actual rules and lines-not-to-be-crossed are, so they just try to play it safe and copy others censoring themselves. So the actual amount of self-censorship is probably greater than the amount that's actually enforced, because everyone's afraid and paranoid.

>>714807134
>>developers should be legally required to design game a certain way instead of having freedom to do whatever they want
>design
Anon were talking about simply uploading a couple files, there is not anything remotely restrictive here

>>714806325
your game is still dead anon

>>714807021
Idiots they have already held sway to educational systems, Hollywood and the games industry. Woke is a fad that will be stripped of all its developments in the last decade because you did achieve gay equality rights but then PUSHED for special snow flake advantages over the common man and woman.

>>714793906 (OP)
There is some kind of mental illness that prevents certain people from admitting they are wrong, and they will try to maintain their position even when it is completely illogical to do so.
From what little I have followed of this case, the guy gave his opinion on how the initiative would make cheaper games prohibitive because of government regulation. It turns out that, although this criticism is valid against interventionism, it was not valid in this specific case because there was already consideration and response to this line of argument, which the guy did not know because he had not read the details.
Instead of admitting that he made a suggestion without really knowing what he was talking about, the guy decided to double down in an insane way, and he's never going to back down.

NOTE: I saw this happen with my brother, who has some egocentric tendencies. The guy made a mistake in judgment, I told him to back down, but he just preferred to double it down. The guy is now at risk of losing his job, his house, and even custody of his daughter, but he refuses to give up on the same irrational line he took at the beginning because his wounded ego won't allow him to admit he's wrong.
It's insane how stupid people are.

>>714794459
>Thor
give up, Jason, it makes you look like a pagan LARPer or Marvel soýboy, not sure what's worse

THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE MY SAFE SPACE TO SUPPORT SKG LIKE MY GOD PENGUINZOO TOLD ME! ANYONE WHO SHITS ON THE INITIATIVE OR MOCKS ME IS
1. a shill
2. a contrarian
3. ai chatbot
4. corpo paid employee
5. pirate software himself

I HAVE A MELTY EVERY TIME SOMEONE PROVES ME WRONG OR GOES AGAINST ME! THIS IS OUR CIRCLE JERK! WE ARE LEGION! ASMONGOLD SUPPORTS SKG AND SO DO WE

>>714807053
I see where you're coming from but I'm gonna be honest with you and I'm going to tell explicitly where this new Act comes from. This is a regulation on the industry. If your indie "creation" sucks ass and is not able to withstand the new regulations properly, safely, following protocol, it should not exist to begin with.
This is the EU, it has always worked this way. That's why the fucking Germans are number one in terms of efficiency and economic power and the fucking gipsies are still making a living stripping copper wire from lampposts.

>>714807021
Woke ideology only achieved as much as it did because the majority shrugged it off for so long. Your point is supremely retarded and very Jewish. Post nose.

>>714804528
He's a vindictive little shit and actually wants thing to go to hell so that he can be right.

>>714807363
Yeah. Vodka and beans don't cost that much in poland so you have a good excess of funds for living expenses.

>>714807389
We are. Haven't seen shilling of this magnitude in a long time. It's beautiful.

>>714807550 (me)
To add what became a good purpose you flipped into a profit ideology by your own initiative. You were all on board for it but time for those programs to be erased

>>714806405
so now we are moving the goalpost. You can already not buy an always online game, but you socialists types want everyone to suffer the hand of forced EU legislation to satisfy your utopian ideals.

>>714807550

Your claim is woke is successful because of their large numbers.
There are no large numbers of woke, retard. It's just the jews.

>>714801816
the entire thing is an attempt to end-run ownership of the copyrighted work

>>714807668
>ANYONE WHO SHITS ON THE INITIATIVE OR MOCKS ME IS
>1. a shill
>2. a contrarian
>3. ai chatbot
>4. corpo paid employee
>5. pirate software himself
Truth nuke.

>>714807668
you will own nothing, and you will be happy

>>714804528
It's a very petty and passive aggressive way of saying
>I hope you get shit on. fuck you.

>>714807758
You don't lose copyright because you released something for free.

>>714807363
Probably, it seems that ~8k in poland's funny money is the average wage and ~2k usd is ~7k zloty, so he's making average and maybe more while being very frugal about it.
He's fine, financially speaking.

>>714807753
the "large numbers of the woke" come from the federal reserve lmao

>>714807812
Fuck off anticopyright COMMIE

>>714807680
It could only perpetuate in a thriving society as a first world issue. The fact they have to become like everyone else has them screaming. Sorry not sorry the world can't afford your BS anymore

All I'm saying... if the Industry is already lobbying against the movement. Maybe SKG has a point. Companies are terrified of it for some reason.

>>714806992
>Because if they support the initiative, they will lose their sponsors.
If they don't support the initiative they will lose their viewers. Now viewers = no sponsors. Unless their main viewrs don't care about videogames.
>>714806748
Wrong.
>>714806371
Fucking retard. Videogame publishers NEED regulation.

>>714807134
> because they can run a 16 player Counter Strike server on their home PC, they can run an MMO server too
uh... I literally can though? https://github.com/mangos/MaNGOS
my private MMO server doesn't need to support hundreds of thousands of players, and so it doesn't need the hardware requirements of a real MMO - is that so hard for you fucks to graps?

>>714807812
instead it just becomes worthless. a title to a house someone else gets to live in.

>>714798740
attached bottle caps are god tier, i hate when i drop my cap and can't find it

>>714807943
There is a shitton of free software out there, that is constantly used. IS vlc worthless? Malwarebytes? What a stupid cope.

>>714807363
he lives in an apartment with his autistic wife, no kids, I guess no pets, eats beans and mold, guy's pretty frugal

>>714807668
I say this and look like this

>>714801967
you must be like 50 years old if you genuinely believe esports has anything to do with this

>>714807905
>Companies are terrified of it for some reason.
They won't be able to buy a third private jet. This is what scares them. For them videogames are nothing but a means to an end. We are the people that love videogames. That's why i do my best to buy DRM free games from Europe on GOG.

>>714793906 (OP)
/v/ hates wokeness but supports this woke cancel culture commie gamergate BS

>>714807668
I mean, yeah?
Why would anyone be against "hey we'd like to be able to play games we bought" other than shills?

>>714802147
He is turk ? what the fuck is going on there

>>714807270
Not since the corporations can do too, autist

>>714807812
Licensing can change too. There is such a thing as the public license, which protects the product and the right holder against unfair use, and gives freedom to the right holder to dispose of the product (if they want to resell it down the line for instance).

>>714806471
I said nothing about licensing a server. I said and please read this carefully so you don't make a fool of your self again.
3rd party software libraries used to make server side code to run a game service, is almost always licensed to run on a very specific set of hardware or cloud services. This means that if you give the end user the server binary it contains libraries that are not licensed to run on general purpose hardware, and can thus not be given out.

>>714807668
You'll notice that the only people who have meltdowns are the ones with the opposite opinion. And no one ever mentions Critikal aside from those people too.

>>714805972
Pay up, Karl. Filing for bankruptcy ain't helping shit

>>714808256
>commie
communism is when you... get to keep the things you own?

>i
pirate has infiltrated the ranks bros

>>714801967
Anon, all e-sport games have dedicated servers, PTP and LAN that they use for the actual tournaments. No serious e-sport is played on the main servers of the game.

>>714808278
>Not since the corporations can do too, autist
SAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE INITIATIVE

>>714807905
They hate the fact people are uniting against them for fair treatment and setting terms as a customer again. Brand loyalty and accepting everything new thing 'Allowed' to come their way for the 'time' it is designed to last is making them panicked.
Imagine if they had to start saying "this product is only good for 5 years" on the packaging. It goes against their concept to make millions a year with their established oligarchies and monopolies. Marketing isn't working on these customers anymore! Why should they be allowed to have this, we will lose so much yearly profit.

>>714800763
Thanks to the EU, Nintendo has to repair every drifting piece of shit joycon for free. They refused to do that when the issue first came up shortly after the Switch 1 launch and then got btfo for it.

>>714793906 (OP)
>"and ill leave it there"
and then he did in fact, not leave it there

>>714808256
I had no idea that commies wanted me to own the things that i paid for.

> it could be argued that destroying a user’s license, prohibiting play of a bought game, breaches reasonable consumer expectations under EU law, particularly via the Unfair Contract Terms Directive and Digital Content Directive.

>>714807905
>if the Industry is already lobbying against the movement.
I mean, so far only one group that hardly has an affiliation with any major companies had said anything.
You should be worried about that silence

>>714802012
>This guy looks really off putting and odd
It's just the long hair. Ever since the 60s people have been conditioned to think that having long hair is something bad.

Maybe one day long hair will came back in fashion.

EU will get one look at the neckbeards supporting this shit and arrest them all as far right incel terrorists under hatespeech laws

>>714804528
It doesn't make sense logically, everyone replying to you is too dumb to even notice the wording is weird.

>>714793906 (OP)
oh no, the big bad monkey's paw of "well then we just wont make games with online/multiplayer functionality anymore then"! and nothing of value was lost.

>>714808598
Well nothing is being done yet, we’re in nascent stages here. They’ll spend money when it starts gaining traction in law, not popular opinion.

>>714808675
This hurts you

>>714808663
Does Jesus seem evol to you?

>>714808361
I love this boomer like you wouldn't believe

>>714793906 (OP)
what did he mean by this

>>714807134
>These idiots think that because they can run a 16 player Counter Strike server on their home PC, they can run an MMO server too.
Cutting-edge servers from 2004 had less power than laptops you can buy for $200 from Walmart.

Just because you play on a shitbox doesn't mean that someone can't drop 5k and get hardware that can support a few hundred people for some more recent but still older games.

>>714804639
Are you faggots illiterate or something? Who the fuck said anything about open-sourcing?

>>714807395
Please don't write dumb shit. Software companies license tons of stuff they don't end up owning themselves. This is how modern software development works. You stitch together 3rd party libraries using 3rd party tooling. Bigger gaming companies can have their own engine sure but even then just look at the credits of any game, tons of 3rd party libraries used.
Now the part of the game binary that end up getting installed on a users machine have a set of licenses, but if there is a server side component that the end user don't get, That server software will of course have a completely different set of licenses. This is how you negotiate software licenses.

y8hvn

>>714808442
>Thanks to the EU, Nintendo has to repair every drifting piece of shit joycon for free
No? They didn't even start doing it in the EU until like a year after the US and Japan. They did that of their own volition.

Hell if they were forced by the EU everyone would be offering free repairs.

>>714807134
>These idiots think that because they can run a 16 player Counter Strike server on their home PC, they can run an MMO server too
https://uooutlands.com/
Do you suck futa cock?

say what you will about the man but he makes some good food

>>714797859
>I can imagine someone in EU parliament being pissed that they couldn't charge his phone borrowing another member's charger. Can't say the same for video games.
Luckily the European Union doesn't run on your imagination

>>714804613
That doesnt explain why though so you didnt even answer the question

>>714793906 (OP)
>Why are som-AAAAAAAAAAAACCCCKKK
SKG and PS eceleb shitfucks should be beheaeded

>>714808373
Oh, I missed this. It just gets funnier and funnier. The hilarity rises with the signatures.

>>714808917
That looks greasy as fuck, what's it supposed to be?

>>714808745
I mean, he is the physical manifestation of the guy who flooded the planet because of a gaggle of evil people and taunted his two creations by putting an apple tree they couldn't eat from in their garden.

>>714807956
always tear them off and throw them in the nearest river.

>>714808917
he still has friends?

>>714808917
>Succesful rich game dev happily married spent 4th of July with his bros
>SKGcels spend every waking moment in their basement shilling some stupid woke crap on a muslim continent they dont even live in
LMAO

>>714808356
And no game company is using 3rd party libraries. You are not even making an actual argument here, you are bringing up random shit that doesnt apply.

>>714808702
Yes, that's what I keep telling myself. Logically there's something weird about it, that's why I can't make sense of it.
>I hope that your initiative gets everything that you asked for, but nothing you wanted.
>everything that you asked for, but nothing you wanted
Fuck that sounds weird. I asked for what I wanted. Can I not want what I asked for? Did I want something other than what I asked for?
Halp.

>>714806084
This. Creating your APKs or programs with end-of-life modes will become the norm. If you contract your assets out and they aren't perpetually licensed tonyou like an asset shop would have, then lol and I'm not sad to see them go.

>>714809057
>>Succesful rich game dev
Name 1 (I) (one) (singular) game he made.

>>714807134
there are private servers for RO, TERA, that one Dragon Ball MMO, WoW, FFXI, and so on

>>714793990
>>714800030
>>714802327
He literally talks like a /v/irgin

>>714808358
> Pirate software disagrees with the initiative and explains why
> He's viciously attacked by incels like you

Yeah clearly the ones against skg are the ones having melties, lmao.

>>714809135
the breakfast one

>>714809043
>friends
People who orbit him because he has money*

>>714808826
You are outing yourself as the illiterate one anon. The discussion was about the complexities and differences in giving end users access to source cod or binary blobs. With both being an alternative.

>>714809084
Considering he's on video saying I hope you get everything you wanted but not what you asked for, that's what he actually meant and is either a fucking retard and wrote it backwards or someone edited it to make him look slightly more evil.

>>714809084
This is autism, and I don't even mean it as an insult.

>>714809084
He thinks it's some evil scheme to enslave devs only allow singleplayer games and ban multiplayer games, when he read the initiative and none of this was ever mentioned he called it a sloppily written piece of shit run by a greasy evil used car salesman sleazeball, thusly the only people signing this are supervillains who actually want gaming to only be singleplayer and enslaving the devs so if the movement passes doing what it actually says it'll be a massive own against the SKGchuds

>>714809282
>He
Give it a rest already, faggot. Trying to appear like the world's biggest victim is a losing game.

>>714793906 (OP)
Sounds like a cheesy sore loser you'd hear in a cartoon

>>714809084
Let's say you wish for a girlfriend right now anon, whether you have one or not doesn't matter because this is a hypothetical.
You then get one and it's the most ugly, abhorrent bitch on the planet but you wished for it and now you're stuck.

That's basically what he meant. Because you didn't want the worst girl on the planet.

>>714809198
he said he grew up on 4chan and somethingawful

>>714796593
>Name yourself Pirate Software for whatever reason
>Neither pirates software or makes piratey software
Took long enough for the normalniggers to turn against him

>>714808868
game companies use mostly BSD or MIT licenses, which are free to share and use, This entire argument is about it being complicated is flatly untrue. It would not at all make things difficult for the game company to release.

>>714807331
You can't say that. People who blindly believe in the EU as their savior managed to even gaslight themselves into thinking cookie warnings are good.
>>714807350
Read the things stop killing games is asking for.
>>714807671
Games are supposed to be fun. Even an indie game that sucks ass deserves to be released. I don't want or need the government to regulate "fun." Oh wait, I forgot, "fun" isn't really allowed in the EU, my apologies.
>If your indie "creation" sucks ass and is not able to withstand the new regulations properly, safely, following protocol, it should not exist to begin with.
I find this perspective, and especially the fact that eurocucks unironically stand by this, absolutely infuriating. A game or a random computer program isn't going to kill anyone, for fuck's sake.
For small developers, this means "well, you probably shouldn't even try unless you have cash for lawyers and a dev team you can't afford before you even begin" while for big corporations it's less of an issue because they already have an army of lawyers. This mentality is why there are no success stories of individuals "making it" in Europe. Individual people don't experiment, don't release new products, and they sure as hell don't make games.
>fucking Germans are number one in terms of efficiency and economic power
The very thought of following Germany of all places for their legislative practices as an example fills me with dread.

>>714809643
he named himself piratesoftware so people who would google how to pirate software would find him instead

>>714809065
So for example Elden Ring which uses among others oodle and havok. You think these are not 3rd party libraries? One is owned by rad game tools and the other by valve. So how come you say no game company use 3rd party libraries?

>>714807053
I am also from the EU. I enjoy having consumer rights and no corn syrup in my meals.
>but le heccin indie deverinos!!!
Lol.
>>714807134
God you are fucking stupid.

>>714802094
That's just women in general. They simply can not take accountability. It's anathema to them.

>>714809084
I'm not agreeing with him, but that sentence makes sense. The implication is that you don't realize what you're asking for will result in something you don't want, because what you're asking for is misguided. He's saying if you get what you're asking for to the letter, you won't like the result, because you asked for something that will not result in your goal. He's wrong and retarded, but this is what it means.

>>714809726
>cookie warnings are good
Cookie warnings are great. They helped me show my old parents why they should not be using certain sites.

>>714793906 (OP)

>>714809460
Well put, anon. Wise words.

>>714809726
>Read the things stop killing games is asking for.
nothing suggests it would remotely make things harder for indies, now explain or concede

>>714809824
>I am also from the EU. I enjoy having consumer rights and no corn syrup in my meals.
based, we EU chards will also enjoy better consumer protection for out videogames

>>714809874
have your warnings anon, but don't force it upon the rest of us

EUssr mfs must be 1 inch dong incels for this shit to pass hopefully gigachad bigdick boomers toss this in the trash

>>714809726
No one believes EU is a savior. But corpos need to be whipped with regulations. And who cares about indies or small devs in this argument? This is about live service. If you make always online live service shit as a small dev, you deserve to fail. In fact, lots of indieshit retards failed while trying to do this shit long before this initiative.

>>714809476
Yeah, he wasn't asking you to explain the concept. He was saying that SKG asks for almost precisely what it was. The language in the Initiative is actually pretty well-crafted.

So... yes, please. Give us everything we asked for. That's what we want.

>>714809874
Your parents are opening facebook when they wake up in the morning.
Also
>having to configure another thing in ubo is good
Meh.

>>714809084
He's saying it because he thinks everyone on the planet except for him is mistaken in its purpose

>>714809993
LOL seethe more faggot. You will know how many companies are syphoning your data, you will be albe to tell them to fuck off and you will like it!

>>714806451
>sheer numbers is how your woke shit is so prevalent
Yeah. Sheer numbers in terms of money, not people. Those kinds of things have massive financial backing behind them.

>>714809476
If you say monkey paw shit then the response is I hope you get what you wanted not what you asked for. Not, I hope you get what you asked for not what you wanted

>>714809646
You think they do, or you know they do? I know of at least one network library used by a shit ton of live service games that is absolutely not something a game company can distribute to the end user without renegotiate the license

>>714807668
>contrarian
they are though, and that it is giving them the benefit of the doubt because otherwise they're retarded

>>714810072
In tbf in his own reality that is the case

The EU is starved for money from spending everything on easter european country leeches and the war in Ukraine. They WILL take profit from this situation and the money from that lobby group to shut this whole thing down.

>>714809476
Still hardly makes sense. At least in the context of the SKG initiative, with that analogy I get it but it's disingenuous from PirateSoftware's part.
The analogy hardly makes sense because you asked for a girlfriend but you still get one, implying you wanted a fucking qt3.14 is extrapolating. But coming from PirateSoftware, explained like this, you know it's malicious.
>>714809854
>>714810072
Yeah right I think I get it now. Yeah it's not nice and not very wise of him. It's still doubling down on misrepresenting what SKG is about.
I always try to redeem people, sometimes too much. Now I have lost hope with that guy.

>>714808998
potato, chorizo and carrots — boiled...

>>714810259
I know they do, companies make extensive use of free libraries. LGPL licenses for instance require you to hand over your code, no company wants to give that away. Game devs avoid those like the plague.
>I know of at least one network library used by a shit ton of live service games that is absolutely not something a game company can distribute to the end user without renegotiate the license
Really? Name it then.

>>714808909
Yes. Nintendo were being obstinate about replacing joycons back then. The commission contacted them and after that Nintendo agreed to repair joycons for free, regardless of what the damage was or even expired guarantee. You can find this on the EU commission webpage. And I don't see what the timing of it has to do with anything, apart from the EU being a slow machine.

>>714810148
I already knew they were syphoning my data. And now I get some garbage checkbox on every fucking website which even if you say no to, they still take my data. So I just lost twice

>>714810194
Anon, "I hope you get what you asked for not what you wanted" is literally a monkey's paw.
The whole gimmick with a monkey's paw isn't that it fucks with the wish, that's a genie, the gimmick is that it does it literally

>>714810329
and the US taxpayers will pay for it.

>>714808954
It seems I already won the argument KWAB

>>714809726
>For small developers, this means "well, you probably shouldn't even try unless you have cash for lawyers and a dev team you can't afford before you even begin" while for big corporations it's less of an issue because they already have an army of lawyers. This mentality is why there are no success stories of individuals "making it" in Europe. Individual people don't experiment, don't release new products, and they sure as hell don't make games.
I love this meme, as if software that doesn't illegally harvest your data for profit is something that requires more effort than software that does

>>714810454
>they still take my data
If you live in the EU you can request any site to delete any data of yours they have.

>>714810454
which they can be legally sued over, if they dont delete

>>714794459
>once the initiative is inevitably dismissed from the EU parliament
How would that prove him right?

>>714802356
L + ratio

>>714810028
>it's to heckin' own le corporations!!1!
I don't care about owning them for its own sake.
They could have done like 100 things that would actually give people rights and protect them, but no, they had to come up with this quirky garbage.
>indie devs shouldn't have the right to make certain kinds of games in the EU, only big corporations should have that right
Eurofags love having their freedom taken away. They fear the responsibility that comes with it and want the government to solve things for them instead.

>>714810526
Monkey Paw always grants the wish in the worst possible way. In the original story the family that wished for money got it in an insurance payout after their son dies in a factory accident.

>>714810409
not that anon but when I see stuff like havok, bink video, and sound stuff like dolby and DTS. There is no way these are free for gaming companies to use? And can distribute freely if the wanted to?

>>714810827
Meds + get out

>>714809282
This has to be bait.
>Like me
I'm not celibate nor have I ever engaged with that youtuber in any capacity.

>>714810853
You’d be bitching at all 100 other things, you shameless corporate footstool.

>>714808401
and now the autist is throwing baseless xenophobia outside of /pol/ from no reason.
many such cases.

>>714810396
It's definitely not something to photograph or be proud of, but this would be a fine meal as a bachelor for yourself

>>714810423
NTA but if this is what you're talking about then yeah the EU did fuck all.
https://www.acm.nl/en/publications/european-consumer-authorities-nintendo-agrees-offer-free-repairs-controllers
This is like 5 years after they started doing it. The EU did fuck all.

>>714810653
I wish I was as optimistic about this being true as your are anon. The save it all forever.

>>714811006
>from no reason
Eat shit jeet. Actually I don't even have to tell you that since that's what you had for supper.

>>714810653
Anon, it's completely unenforceable because you can't prove they deleted it.

>>714810731
who is gonna sue them?

>>714810887
>bink
Bink video is free if your using unreal
>havok
Is pretty much dead and no one really uses that anymore
>dolby
Sells a perpetual license, so its a one time buy

>>714810861
>Monkey Paw always grants the wish in the worst possible way.
That's a genie. In the original story they didn't specify so it went with the easiest method.

>>714811419
is unreal free?

>>714811301
EU, if you complain the site didnt delete the data, they go after them

I heard the cheater was taking him on.
Karl was interesting since I want to lick his wifes tummy.
This dude doesn't even have a sexy wife, just ferrets...

>>714793906 (OP)
Honestly, most likely scenario
>initiative gets answered
>like every other initiative, the EU barely puts any effort into solving it
>devs/publishers now have to let you know that the game may shut down and become unplayable, ie label it as Live Service on the box
>they regulate the fuck out of the industry in other, worse ways though

>>714811534
And how are they going to do that?

>>714811534
how do I know they actually deleted my data? Do I just take their word for it?

>>714811493
yes

>>714811619
how to epic make money then?

>>714811545
>This dude doesn't even have a sexy wife, just ferrets...
For him, those are sexy wives

>>714811587
Look up how the EU is suing Apple right now for not following regulations.

>>714811587
Send a lawyer to demand them to delete the data? Are you being actually serious, or stupid?
>>714811618
You would ask the DPO, whos job it is to ensure compliance.

>>714811493
Kind of.
If you make a big game using it then Epic is gonna step in and take their cut, otherwise it's free.
Selling assets is a big part of their business too, but you can just make your own.

>>714811618
>well laws never do anything because corporations are just going to cheat anyway
And you sit here licking their boot anyway.

>>714811707
5% royalty, if your game makes over $1m

>>714811707
from big publishers

>>714811740
>>714811741
Think for a minute, how do you prove you've gotten rid of something?

>>714811741
kinda looking for a guarantee here anon. If the EU thing amounts to we trust that the companies delete the data I kinda don't buy it. I need some hard evidence

>>714811887
>Think for a minute, how do you prove you've gotten rid of something?
Because its literally the DPO's job to ensure data compliance, you tard. They are the ones scanning the data.

>>714811793
at least i'm licking without being naive about it

>>714809736
nobody has ever googled "pirate software" for that lol
if you want to pirate photoshop for example and you're clueless you'd just google "photoshop free download"

>>714811893
>i dont know what a dpo is, so im going to make the same argument over and over even though this anwsers my question

>>714812000
Is that supposed to be some sort of own in your head?

>>714811887
So again the question becomes, do I trust the companies, and do I trust EU will punish them if they don't. And I don't trust either of them

>>714810526
>Anon, "I hope you get what you asked for not what you wanted" is literally a monkey's paw.
Congratulations for understanding English, now let's move onto the actual point. Gay furry thinks the wording is bad and spends hours talking about how the monkeys paw is bad, why would he then turn around and hope that it is a monkeys paw?

>>714812093
I got a (you) from it at least

>>714811961
>Because its literally the DPO's job to ensure data compliance, you tard.
Anon, I'm going blow your world right now.
People lie.
That's a truth of the world.

A company doesn't have to tell a DPO what they have the information stored on or show everything. Are you starting to understand how this isn't enforceable?

>>714810887
You're thinking of stuff like SpeedTree, fmod, etc. Those are very much NOT free, and only allow you to distribute through being part of a compiled binary (they won't even let you get the source code, unless you specifically ask and pay for it).

>>714795936
I ended liking the unalive one or all the euphemisms people came up with to replace kill. Banned from the alive server. He sent him to the shadow realm. Sent him to get milk where my father went. Etc.

>>714812230
>isn't enforceable
EU in a nutshell

>>714812230
the DPO works for the company you retard. Well done outing yourself as a moron who is completely clueless about what he is talking about. Ignoring GDPR will gets you sued for millions, the DPO isn't going to risk his job just to not delete a random joes schmos data. It is his ENTIRE JOB

>>714802356
I agree though the initiative is correct

>>714812230
>Are you starting to understand how this isn't enforceable?
gdpr regularly sues companies for breaking data laws, you fags bitching about shit being unenforceable don't ever seem to pay attention that is indeed being enforced

>>714812526
>gdpr regularly sues companies for breaking data laws
That's the thing, they don't.

>>714812526
who have they sued? And did the end users get money for said lawsuit in the end?

>>714812593
https://termly.io/resources/articles/biggest-gdpr-fines/
you want to try another lie?

>>714811961
>"I'm here to see if you deleted this data as requested. Just say that you did, because I don't wanna go through the extra motions of punishing you."
>"Yes, we definitely did that."
Never forget that the government is full of the laziest fucking bastards you'll ever meet.

>>714812405
NTA but no company has a full on DPO for that explicit job. Mooks are just told to do it.

>>714812593
>>714812626
>>714812687
>By January 2025, the cumulative total of GDPR fines has reached approximately €5.88 billion, highlighting the continuous enforcement of data protection laws and the rising financial repercussions for non-compliance.
>REEE THEY ARENT ENFORCING IT
faggots

>>714812659
Notice how none of them have anything to do with deleting data.

>>714812787
how got the money from the fines? I haven't gotten a dime

>>714810396
>>714808917
I can tell that, but is this like unironically a dish or something or is it generic sloppa
Looks prison tier food to me.

If you want weird censorship. Elden ring doesn't let you put nig so Knight is K***ht. It's retarded so you can't name it Crucible Knight but you can name it CrucibleKunth.
Also Marvel rivals banned Rule34 as in you type " rule34" and it's censored.. Weird censor.