Thread 714830363

Why did Dead Space fail?

>>714830363 (OP)
(You)

>>714830363 (OP)
EA banked hard on DS becoming a multimedia franchise. Everything but games flopped. DS3 underperformed. Visceral has been sent to Battlefield mines. Hardline flopped. Visceral was shut down.

If they had a realistic goal for the series both Visceral and DS would've been alive and go toe to toe with Resident Evil desu.

Because it didn't
It sold appropriately for a horror game that isn't named resident evil, the average normie doesn't even touch this genre
but the fucktards at EA wanted COD numbers so it went to the wood chipper

>>714831684
>EA
Oh yeah, that would definitely explain why it disappeared

>>714831491
>>714831684
I just looked it up, DS3 sold over 5 mio copies, wtf are they smoking at EA for shutting this down ?

>>714830363 (OP)
it didn't fail. it was a great game.
not everything needs to be franchised and spawn a million sequels.

>>714830363 (OP)
Guys, how did Dead Space 2 end? Because I remember 3's Marker being even more powerful than the previous Marker.

>>714832102
That's the EA delusion for you
Someone didn't speak up to tell them that horror games are niche as fuck (even the shooty ones like DS3, normies are fucking pussies when it comes to anything horror) and selling that amount is a dream for any other horror dev

I still haven't finished dead space 2

>>714832102
Dead Space 2 doubled 1s sales but EA blew the budget on marketing and copyright music. They did the same thing with Dante's Inferno, staging a fake Christian protest with paid actors.

>>714830363 (OP)
Assuming you're asking about the third one/the franchise. Anyhow, the answer is EA.

>>714832102
>wtf are they smoking at EA
I dunno but I want that too

>>714831684
>>714830713
Dead Space remake sold less copies than Callisto Protocol, but keep coping

>>714830363 (OP)
Dead Space 2 is the best game, and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
>inb4 DS1 muh scary
It wasn't.

>>714830363 (OP)
Oversaturation and a really shit third installment
If they'd slow rolled it more there might have been better reception to the spinoffs and obviously they shouldn't have fucked over the third game chasing bigger profits and market trends

>>714832778
Good. Fuck that remake. I refunded that trash too.

>>714830363 (OP)
We can't have nice things with goys around.

>>714830363 (OP)
EA is a bloodsucking nigger company. if someone shot up EAs marketing department along with their CEO no one would weep.

>>714832818
If it's so good, why were you crying about it not getting a remake?

Does the remake still stutter on PC?

>>714832660
Third one is for people with friends, which RE4 fans and Dead Space 1/2 enjoyers seem to have in common, as in, they're both losers.

>>714832934
I didn't tho anon. Are you okay?

EA

remake flopped because it was released within a month or so of RE4remake

>>714833352
Dead Space came out nearly two months earlier and before RE4. Massive cope.

>>714832934
It's getting a Remake, the problem is that everyone who has experience with Frostbite is currently working on Battlefield 6

>>714833494
>It's getting a Remake

They literally confirmed it wasn't happening.

>>714830363 (OP)
EA had completely and utterly unrealistic expectation in terms of what they expected from sales. Dead Space 3 was a game that got completely fucked by corporate meddling and completely unrealistic sales expectations which put the franchise on ice. The remake also was expected to sell 3 million within a certain period but only did 1 to 2 so the franchise was once again put on ice.

>>714832818
I think it might be, not sure, since I still prefer the atmosphere of the first one. I think it might be the idea of isolation. Overall 2 might be the better game though, at least gameplay/action wise. Gonna have to replay both and see some time soon.
>>714833028
Don't feel hurt anon, I'm only saying it made EA kill the franchise due to financially flopping. If it's good or bad is besides the point. Wouldn't know, didn't play it, but it does look funny in a meme way.

>>714833536
lmao post it

>>714832818
>>714833702
2 is too linear
1 had a lot of sidepaths that 2 streamlines for straight action and and to get around hardware limitations due to better visuals.

Also, the Remake is shit

>>714830363 (OP)
Direction was all over the place
EA is EA

>>714833696
>EA had completely and utterly unrealistic expectation in terms of what they expected from sales.

Look at the sales of Resident Evil 5 and to a lesser extent 6 (PS3/Xbox 360: 8.9 million units), which despite the high number, still got the franchise cooled.

If Dead Space was supposed to be a Resident Evil competitor, it should've been selling like RE.

>>714833864
The side paths were literally just retreads, infact there is way too much backtracking and reusing the same areas.

>>714834037
>infact there is way too much backtracking and reusing the same areas.
You're an absolute braindead retard

>>714832680
that is fake right? How disconnected can you be to ever hit that number, like this is what a child might come up with just to think of a big number.
even if the game is the BEST game of ALL TIME and FREE it would still never reach 100 million

>>714833864
>>714834037
Eh, I think he's right, 2 did feel a lot more linear. It's possible that in my particular autism I have less issues with backtracking than the majority though, but I think sometimes it gives me a feeling like the place is more real, lived in. Like the familiar walking back and forth to the corner store.

>>714833864
>Literally comments about Isaac listening over and over again to Nicole's message
>she's a lesbian guys
Fuck off, the Remake actually made the ship an explorable vessel that wasn't completely bound by narrative progression.

>>714833864
>Also, the Remake is shit

I thought it was good gameplay wise but the voice acting is the most botched shit ever. play dead space 1 and then the remake and damn near all the characters are changed for the worse except isaac.

>>714834151
>that is fake right
No. EA is still that delusional.
>even if the game is the BEST game of ALL TIME and FREE it would still never reach 100 million
It would easily reach to 60M, not sure about 100 though desu.

>>714834151
It's honestly about par the course for EA. They need/want Battlefield to do that kind of number because their other venues are suffering. I think EA losing the FIFA license has hurt them more than they care to admit so they're expecting more from their other games.

>>714834151
It's probably like how some companies count every single instance of the game to reach X million, people who beat it, people who pissed on it for 2 mins or people who literally never installed it just put it in their library
But yeah it's some actual delusion, you could give away money for free to 100 million people and you still wouldn't reach it because you had to sign up for an account

>>714834141
>posts a completely different game
K anon, you sure got me. Absolute retard. The amount of times you're in the goddamn med bay is hilarious in DS1.
>>714834197
Zero G felt great, and the Sprawl was IMO more interesting than the Ishimura.

>>714834151
>>714834249
>>714834372
>Game costs $500 million to make
"omg why do they want the game to sell a lot of copies????"
-retarded /v/ poster

>>714834201
>>714834225

>>714830363 (OP)
The sequels became action slop. Game should've stuck to being a limited ammo, aim for the right parts horror game and not an unlimited ammo wannabe gears of war.

>>714834403
>Doesn't know Dead Space was originally a System Shock game
What a big fan you are!
>Zero G felt great
Also in 1
>and the Sprawl was IMO more interesting than the Ishimura
Would be if I could actually explore it instead of following a single linear path most of the time.

>>714834037
But only 3 chapters were revisits to old decks. The challenge was significantly buffed the second time, you got new sections here and there in the revisits, and the story reasons were solid
By the time you leave the Ishimura you've been all over it and could have been a tour guide had it not exploded at the end of 2. The sprawl on the other hand was a theme park ride where you zoom through space city biomes

>>714834504
>game costs $500 million to make
t. square enix
nobody gives a fuck what your budget is have realistic expectations

>>714834532
>cope image
I accept your concession.

>>714834701
You should accept that you will never be a woman

>>714834504
retarded outsider, the game had no reason to cost 500 million unless you are blowing it on stupid shit or groundbreaking tech.
star citizen was doing both and they may have gotten fucked with the stupid shit aspect of it because they shelled out for washed up psychos like mark hamil for squadron 42.

>>714834774
>brings up tranny garbage
another easy concession.

>>714834852
>Calling himself garbage
Yep, it's a troon!

>>714834638
>Also in 1
No it was janky as shit, and so easy to abuse the AI on.
>Would be if I could actually explore it instead of following a single linear path most of the time.
Seeing the same exact area over and over is shit. The only areas that stand out are the mining deck, the med bay and the Troop vessel that you board.
>>714834674
>The sprawl on the other hand was a theme park ride where you zoom through space city biomes
And it's great, more variety, more enemies and good bumps in difficulty. I especially like the Church section.

>>714834916
>loses argument
>descends into tranny shitflinging
your mental state is atrocious son

>>714834532
Did they really replace all the white people in the posters with black people for the remake? I know about the bathroom, but holyshit, no agenda at all.

>>714832102
I legit don't know if this is the case, but isn't EA the FIFA/Madden company?
So they sell the same game every year to 10s of millions of people?
Maybe they expect the same from other series?

>>714834504
Hired an accountant to readjust the budget and cut the bloat, retard.

>>714834532
>Temple is a faggot now
What?!

>>714834968
>Seeing the same exact area over and over is shit.
Except the areas change and loop around retard, it makes you explore and gives the game more opportunity to scare you
>more enemies and good bumps in difficulty
You just want a fucking action, I bet you love 3 too
>facebook frog
yep

>>714835014
dilate

>>714835041
White and asian, all replaced with nogs
They also replaced Ghana God with a ghetto Amerinigger, that alone made me not play it.

>>714834968
Fair, the church was great and the overall game pacing was excellent
Although i'd argue that the church was unlike the rest of the game in that it was a mini-ishimura. It even had a central hub you kept returning to and a gift shop jingle that forever lives on in my brain

>>714835164
That's EA for you, look at Apex Legends to get a taste of what they're pushing into every single game not made by Josef Fares.

>>714835208
Fucks sake, if it's not a big deal, why change that stuff? It just seems so petty.

>>714835208
>it makes you explore and gives the game more opportunity to scare you
>MUH SCARY GAME
You're a retard, that shit got old after the 4th time a necromorph popped out of the vent behind you. DS1 is not a horror game, neither is 2.

>>714835320
>Why change that?
1.EA
2.Cucknadian Montreal studio
3.The new studio wants to "make it it's own"

Their previous games, Nufront 2 and Snoy Wars Squadrons also were filled with that shit.

>>714830363 (OP)
dei space "remaster"

>>714835474
>DS1 is not a horror game,neither is 2

>>714835208
Ah that makes sense why you can't argue beyond the images you never played the fucking game.

Just play the (original disks). they're good games

>>714830363 (OP)
kill yourself

>>714835595
It relies too much on the same thing. Necromorph infront of you, necromorph pops out of vent behind you. It's too predictable to be scary.

2 switches it up.

>>714835665
chop your dick off faggot with a Lazer

>>714835716
doubt the fucked up aliens become your soul reaver. you're retarded

>>714835529
There are also many, many, many f-bombs all over the dialogue, because swearing is mature. The original was oddly sparse with swears for whatever reason, but it gave the dialogue a quiet sort of composure despite the subject matter

dead space original kicks ass

>>714835628
Pirated, physical and Steam
Where's your receipt niggerfaggot?

>>714835716
>2 switches it up
By doing the same thing but in a linear game?
Are you fucking retarded? Don't answer that.

>>714835796
DS1 is a good game, DS2 is better. Get over it. Don't shit your pants playing Spongebob Battle for Bikini Bottom, it might scare you.

What the fuck was going on with shooting games in the late 2000s and early 2010s?
FEAR, Crysis, Resistance, Mass Effect, Lost Planet, Crackdown, Dead Space; they were all doing soft reboots, (usually) killing of their protagonists, changing up their mechanics, artstyle, basic gameplay elements, you name it. They were making sequels in name only that barely played like their originals. And they were all turning into almost entirely different genres by the time the third game came around.

Fucking Crysis became open world. Lost Planet became a multiplayer game then switched back to singleplayer. Dead Space and FEAR became coop shooters. Fucking Resistance went from a ridiculous hyperspace arsenal of guns with insane secondary fires to dialing it the fuck back and being way more scripted and CoD-like in Resistance 2. Mass Effect started as an rpg-lite in ME1 and ended ME3 as a Gears of War clone with rpg elements.

What caused this? Why? Fucking why?

And rocks on the mining deck elevator
Like we're in a fucking skyrim mine, carting out buckets of ore up to the tram for some reason

>>714835823
FUCK BITCH SHIT AHAH I'M AN ADULT

>>714835978
you barely played the game you loser

>>714835735
seething!

>>714835978
lol, faggot who's barely played DS1 thinks it's the best.

>>714830363 (OP)
best HUD hands down.

>>714836037
>What the fuck was going on with shooting games in the late 2000s and early 2010s?
AAA consolidation killing every single medium size and small developer along with consolidation since PC was a smaller market and Microsoft raped PC gaming with Vista and GFWL before completely abandoning it for the Xbox 360.

Then COD (also funded heavily by Microsoft) got stupidly popular with COD 4 and MW2 so every AAA retard was dumbing down their games to be more like COD to capture the retarded fanbase of that series, all of them failed, much like every AAA is trying to capture the Fortnite fanbase, and failing.
Remember RE5? That was Gears influence
Remember RE6? That was COD influence
Every fucking game needed to be like that or Uncharted. A linear cinematic shitpiece filled with scripted sequences that held your hand

Thankfully nowadays AAA is shitting itself and mid size companies are king.

>>714836037
It's better than every game now being a sandbox open world game.

>>714836119
>>714836260
All my pirated and physical copy hours shit all over that.

Hey where'd 14 hours opinion faggot go? Don't be shy kiddo I want to chuckle a bit more at a retard with 14 hours thinking he knows dead space 1.

>>714835595
>MLP hat

>>714830363 (OP)
Because they didn't fucking fix the micro-stuttering issue on the damn Remake
>9800x3d
>5080
>samsung 990pro nvme

>>714836686
>Piss is better than shit
So?

>>714836770
lol
Get owned bitch

>>714836790
That's Perry the platypus you dumb retard

>>714836718
>b-b-but my pirated hours!
That's nice faggot. Very nice 14 hours you got.

>>714832102
Because they're like Squeenix where they have such unrealistic sales targets and goals for niche titles that got mild popularity. Jedi Survivor is like the only one to survive this expectation it seems.

>>714836790
That's the Platypus from Phineas and Ferb

>>714836847
>14 hours opinion detected

>>714830363 (OP)
EA did their very best to turn it into action slop from the beginning.
it's already evident in 2, but the game still worked despite it, 3 was closer to EA's idea so yeah.
The follow-up was gonna be open world slop, so DS was dead regardless.

>>714836913
>>714836994
>You didn't play the game
>Nice 14 hours
Anally ravaged

>>714837054
Sometimes, dead is better

>>714837082
You're so valid sweetheart. Your pirated hours must be crazy.

>>714837328
I played the game

>>714834201
and ruined the story progression and general flow by doing so.
>Now you have to return to previous parts of the ship just to find the one locked door you didn't have the security clearance to enter just to get to a new area.
>Now you have to get security clearances and revisit old floors to get blueprints for random ammo, med packs, or Power Conduits that were doled out naturally in DS1 as you revisited them naturally through Power Node doors or brand new paths that opened up.
>Now you have Hammond having an objectively worse ending, VA, and appearance to build up a paper thin character he had guilt over.
>Now you have this nonsensical extended survival of Mercer just to have him die with the Regenerator rather than in the mess hall area to an Infector.
>Now you have the tentacle thing slapping you into vents which you have to run back from.
>Now you have the asteroid defense mission become a retread of Mobile's outdoor section instead of just finishing the
>Now the Valor overstays its welcome with the new nuke room, more Twitcher ambushes because it spawns like three or four in some encounters, and several extra rooms when it was paced perfectly fine before.
>Now you have respawning Necromorphs that always spawn from the very same areas.
>Now you have this overly long extension to Aegis VII's maps which makes an already long ending area even longer.

The four sole improvements the remake adds that aren't DS2/DS3 combat with worse control layouts are
>You can zero-g the landing bay right at the start pretty much immediately and even fly around outside of it a decent amount.
>The immediate section after the Nicole defense is way better handled and you can fly around in zero-g to find new side rooms on top of it.
>You have a very fun boss fight with the tentacle thing outside utilizing Kinesis and the guns.
>Necromorphs actually do sneak behind you and can actually do proper ambushes from behind you instead of being instantly noticeable in the original.

>>714830363 (OP)
Cuz this shit spooky

>>714837498
Hardly and I was arguing about dead space remake not 2008. You tismed out and thought dead space 2008. Now post another image you got in your faggot reaction folder since that's all your off-meds mind can think of.

>>714830363 (OP)
3 game ruined everything.

It is not that bad but the reception was so garbage that it killed the series right there and then.

>>714837740
>instead of just finishing the
Sorry, didn't finish this train of thought. "Instead of fixing the minigame and making it better". The only reason people hated the minigame was how long it was, how fast the asteroids could reach you, and how no matter what platform you were on (PC or consoles) it was annoying.

>>714837740
>Now you have Hammond having an objectively worse ending, VA, and appearance to build up a paper thin character he had guilt over.
>Now you have this nonsensical extended survival of Mercer just to have him die with the Regenerator rather than in the mess hall area to an Infector.

these were terrible and also what they did to dr kyne having him be so calm during the remake was atrocious character assassination. Also the audio log for mercer injecting the sample into the patients head was pussified so hard it ruined it.

I just realized the slasher necromorphs in the remake doesn't charge at you or jumping on the sides to dodge your shots like the original

>>714830363 (OP)
it didn't fail, it was sabotaged. EA killed it off because they wanted deadspace to be as big as call of duty, and chock full of microtransactions

>>714838147
>tfw dead space 3 was the testing ground for microtransactions
>Ellie got whored out and Isaac got cucked so that EA can test out their garbage marketing to later milk tons of retards

EA and basically most large publishers are run by demons.

>>714838147
>>714838425
Honestly, the microtransactions were what did it in. The story was IMO even more grim.

>>714837913
I played the game
cope

>>714838425
Most cosmopolitan places are complete hellholes ran by degenerate assholes.
So yeah, that describes California and the entertainment industry there pretty well.

>>714838087
The trick to getting the cheevo on console was to aim at the rocks in order of closest to the cursor, instead of closest to hitting you. So you'd hit a rock, and then hit the 2-3 smaller rocks in the distance on your way to hitting a rock about to smash you

>>714830363 (OP)
i will never forgive all those traitorous studios

>>714832984
Yes though with a powerful pc it somewhat mitigates it. It's how the game loads level chunks and assets that causes it and the pc version is just not well done in that regard. The original and the remake both do this but the remake is way less optimized in how it happens. Speedrunners of both versions actually abuse the level load points to break the game since they know where they are and can use the loads to clip out at certain points. I have a 5950x/64gb ddr4/samsung 980 pro m.2/7900xtx and i still get some minor hitches and I've messed with a lot of the settings. I find that capping the fps to 60 helps a lot and not using the upscaling option and just running the game native res and fullscreen works well enough at 1440p. Dunno why nearly all the dead space games have such bleh pc ports. Weirdly enough ds2 runs the best for me across all my systems over the years with ds3 being a close second but it still has that annoying door audio bug and some sections like the harpoon battle with the snow beast break sometimes. This is of course vanilla with no patches or fan fixes. Ds1 works well with the patch. Remake really needed 1 more update but never ever at this point it seems.

>>714830363 (OP)

EA is full of retarded gorilla niggers and ran the series into the ground by trying to turn it into something it wasn't and expecting a bajillion dollars out of it.

I will never forget the first time i played DS3, and the first thing you do is grab your machine gun, duck behind cover, and get into a shootout with other humans that throw grenades at you. Everyone responsible deserves to hang.

>>714831491
>>714835101
>>714836920
"Unrealistic expectations" is a Jewish scheme.
Companies like EA WANT to send talented studios to Battlefield mines so they purposefully set unrealistic expectations.
And if the studio isn't owned by them, they'll do it to drive the studio's price down so they can buy it.

>>714830363 (OP)
Because you faggots didn't buy the remake so they'd have enough money and fuel to redo the whole franchise and possible make the fourth installment

>>714842183

Normally I would completely agree with you especially when it comes to a shithole company like EA, but they really were shooting for the moon with Dead Space for some godforsaken reason. The IP had what like 3 fucking animated movies, mobile games and spin-offs like that wii game, a bunch of books. They were really expecting it to be a Next Big Thing and just could not grasp that it wasn't going to happen.

>>714842332

Fuck the remake, the IP is better off dead at this point because it means less money for that scumsucking vulture company.

>>714832818
the only memorable part of 2 is when you go back to the ishimura

>>714842332
>You didn't buy the Remake
Yep, and thankfully no more garbage like that is being done.

EA did the exact same thing to various Bioware IPs. They tried to broaden the games appeal instead of cultivating and respecting the niche they had, changing the games into something more action oriented and DLC or MTX riddled. Its actually funny because Dead Space, ME and Dragon Age all COVER specific fanbases who were loyally invested into these games. Had they just you know, fucking let the devs do their thing they may have had a series that could rival Resident Evil or something else. I mean the game is a blatant love-letter to RE and the devs admit it, they could've done something more or similar with it had EA not gutted them and made a shitty demake 10 years later.

>>714842332
>didn't buy the remake
I did.
At a massive discount of $20 total.
Because there never should have been a remake of DS1 past adding in DS2 zero-g and Kinesis refinements.

>>714842332
It's funny how the remake is the necromorph to the OG's human being. A crude ill-intentioned zombie versus the genuine article

>>714836037
consoles and coop with the bros trying to cash in on battlefield/halo/cod hype, that was the entire angle

>>714842685
7th Gen was pure fucking cancer, I'm so glad AAA is imploding on itself.