Thread 714841002

The stupidest video game retcons you’ve ever seen.

Arena didn't have that.

They probably retconned it cause it was equatorial.

Then retconned it back to fit Arena and LotR

>>714841002 (OP)
I do understand why they couldn't actually portray the forests but there's been multiple chances to unretcon it since and they've never taken it.

>>714841002 (OP)
Blame LOTR and tech limitations

>>714841002 (OP)
Everyone says limitations but so many other devs make it work or put more time towards the project. Its a Bethesda thing, they are ten years maybe 15 behind everyone else.

>>714841002 (OP)
talos chimed it to forest

im glad starfield was a massive flop for bethesda.

>>714843557
It was a financial success, as shitty as it was.

>>714843719
I don't think there's any way that's true based on its alleged 400M dollar budget

>>714841002 (OP)
Good change no one wants a shitty jungle over rolling green hills and charming forests

>>714843719
Nobody believes that, at best gamepass money and there's no way it ever covered it's budget.

>>714843892
>nobody believes that
>based on my conversations on /v/
May last year, they announced they had hit $657m in sales. Since that $400m highball estimate includes marketing, by all sources, that's $257m+ of profit.

>>714844118
Link to that statement/article?

>>714843719
yeah, but bethesda need name-power.
You think they could have sold Skyrim 5 times if it had "succeeded" like Starfield?

>>714841002 (OP)
That doesn't even come close to the stupidest retcon in TES. They got rid of the Levitation spell, and said akchuelly it's gone because the Empire made it illegal. Take a few seconds to process that.

>>714844583
not a retcon
>inb4 didn't say it was a retcon
don't play dumb, you implied it

>>714841002 (OP)
It was (retroactively) explained in Skyrim that Talos changed the jungle into forest out of love for his legions who hated the jungle.
>>714843557
Even just looking at footage of that game makes me feel like snoring.

>>714841002 (OP)
it being a jungle was a retcon in the first place /v/edditor
Now start soipogging about dragonbreak retcons

>>714844583
As stupid as I find that choice, its not a retcon. A retcon is completely altering an established event or character or setting to fit some new narrative.

>book is in the game it's supposedly retconning
???

Isn't the whole idea that tiber septim did chim fuckery and made it so that it wasn't a jungle?

>>714844820
morrowincels are extremely fragile

>>714841002 (OP)
>retcon
Climate change caused that, chud. That's how the game tackle a real life environmental problem, by showing instead of telling. Next time try to be more literate before making up a new thread showing your illiteracy

>>714844931
Yes. Good luck getting anyone to seriously discuss the really stupid parts, the parts of TES lore I like, on /v/ anymore.
>Oops Akatosh sneezed again

>>714841314
>Then retconned it back to fit LotR
FTFY
they weren't thinking about Arena, I assure you.

>>714844691
False on both counts, literally is a retcon. Levitation was legal in Morrowind in 3E 427, when the game takes place; Oblivion says that the Levitation Act was passed in 421.
It's an even dumber retcon when you realize you can buy Levitation spells from the Legion themselves in Castle Ebonheart.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Nebia_Amphia
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Fanildil

Game developers don't know what equatorial jungle trees look like so they just model trees that are in the area.
>wow check out this "jungle" bruhs
>it's all trees native to cooler northern regions, not jungle regions

>>714845303
totally. it's not like you could just google "jungle" and get a handle on what a jungle looks like.

>>714843719
Whether it was or wasn't, would love to see the sales numbers for Sharted Space by the way, the fact is it was so bad as a game that it singlehandedly destroyed Bethesda's reputation.
Almost nobody except the extreme copefiend hopium addicts is looking forward to ES6 now. Everyone expects it to be boring as fuck, corporately sanitized to hell, and filled with the horrendous writing of Emil Pagliacci that was only ever bareable because the game around it was fun to mod.

Starfield is so bad that the old Bethesda mantra of Mods Will Fix It simply does not apply. And without modding, all a Bethesda game is is a boring, poorly made pile of shit with bad writing and bad gameplay.

It took one game to destroy Bethesda's reputation. And when your reputation is "They make shit, but it's fun to muck about with" it should NOT be a reputation you can destroy.
When everyone acknowledges that you are shit and STILL likes you? Still likes your shit?
You've got to catastrophically fuck up for people to say your shit, your actual shit they've been enjoying since you started guzzling laxatives in 2005, is finally too shitty to excuse anymore.

>>714844948
>>714844691
>>714844958

>>714845297
copy-pasting:
While the date of 3E 421 actually predates Morrowind's start date of 3E 427, the province of Morrowind is not subject to Imperial laws due to joining the Empire by treaty rather than conquest, allowing otherwise illegal practices (such as slavery).

>>714843719
>It was a financial success
I want actual quarterlies and sources stating the games budget and how much it sold.

>>714845845
Everyone just stops levitating because some law says so?

>>714845972
just clarifying that it's not a retcon

>>714846094
Retcon or not, it makes zero sense. The law also didn't exist in TES3; you'd think at least one guy would mention, "haha, we're the only ones that can fly".

>>714845972
People give away entire portions of their paycheck because rich people in offices say its being used to build roads, hospitals, schools.

>>714846174
actually in TES3 you couldn't levitate in Mournhold, but that's because a living god was preventing you from doing so.

>>714846210
Yeah, but that's real, dumb people. In the real, gay ass universe. We're talking about a different universe where you can drink a god damn bottle that makes you smarter, and 200 year old elves exist that are smart enough to learn how to teleport, shoot fireballs and shit.

>>714846272
Well yeah, and for similar reasons; the city wasn't an overworld, just contained cells with an "open" sky. You can also levitate in the caves and shit. It'd be legal in Mournhold anyways, as it's the Indoril capital.

>>714841689
No other devs have made a game on the level of TES.

>>714841314
>cause it was equatorial
Has this ever been confirmed. To me it always seemed that Tamriel was in the northern hemisphere with the south being closest to the equator.

Anyway, the jungles never made any sense. No massive empire would build a capital in the middle of a jungle. The jungle is mentioned once or twice but nothing else we saw in previous games would indicated a jungle. Neither the architecture nor the clothing or even the culture would suggest that the empire was located in a jungle.

A smarter way to retcon the jungle would have been deforestation. The empire needed the wood for expansion.

>>714846402
The point isn't the settings its that people will adhere to laws and orders that go against them or don't even make sense. Nobody fought back against the outlaws for magic just like nobody is fighting back now for higher wages, lower cost of living and taxation.

remember when people didn't care about story and lore in vidya? I do. It's back when games were actually "gamey"

>>714847398
>No massive empire would build a capital in the middle of a jungle
Aztecs and Mayans.

A rain forest is not explicitly a jungle why are people retarded and think it's a jungle like oh my fucking god shut the fuck up.

>the book says this place is meant to be a jungle
>could the book be wrong?
>No, the universe is wrong.

>>714844583
Bethesda seems to really like using it's illegial so you can't do it as an excuse, levitation, necromancy (but then gave you a staff that could do it anyway, maybe they unexpectedly got necromancy working after they already designed the game around it not existing) and then in Starfield mechs are illegial

>>714844820
Arena was too basic to allow such depths, i'm ok with retconing some landscapes

>>714847461
*blocks you're path*

>>714841002 (OP)
CHIM

It makes no sense for a highly developed provincial capital of a massive empire to be overgrown jungle.

>>714848750
>provincial capital of a massive empire
Retard

>>714843557
>starfield was a massive flop for bethesda.

you lost, snoy tranny