did capcom kill their golden goose
The popularity of World was overinflated by Covid, so they totally misjudged what people actually wanted from the series, trying harder to appeal to normalfags who already moved on. Classic case of alienating fans in the pursuit of the almighty dollar.
>>714862568 (OP)no. it works fine on ps5 and we will continue to support the franchise. pc cattle have no standard, they will buy the next game as long as there is hype.
>>714862568 (OP)It is a pretty fucking ugly game and also boring. Never played a MH before this and maybe it's just not for me.
>>714862568 (OP)>did capcom kill their golden gooseIt's most sold game of the year so far or close to it, they didn't kill shit. By the time the next Crapcum sloppa rolls around everyone will have forgotten about it.
>>714862795Damm bro?! Wilds released during he Covid in 2020?!
>>714863248You do not belong on an English language forum.
>>714862795>The popularity of World was overinflated by something that happened over 2 years later
>>714862568 (OP)If anything is to come out of it, it is them learning that they cannot use the RE engine to make an open world game, and whoever suggests otherwise should get decapitated like Mikami.
>>714863378Correct, thank you for paying attention
>>714862568 (OP)They uber casualized it to a level that appeals to nobody because nobody wanted it casualized. Capcom either maliciously misread the audience they were making the game for and gave it the "yellow paint" treatment in MH form.
It's a success from a business perspective but it's probably going to be a permanent scar on the franchise. At this point they will need to make huge sweeping changes in the DLC or outright cut support and start working on the next game sooner. And even then Wilds will make people very skeptical about buying the next game after being kicked in the balls so hard.
>>714863583>December 2019>lockdowns didn't start happening until around February-MarchYou know what did happen in December 2019? Christmas. Specifically, Christmas following the release of Iceborne, which released in September.
>>714863583Worlds already outside Wilds in the same timespan on release by like 2x. People going back to play it for a couple months in late 2019/early 2020 is meaningless because that whole fiasco was barely even started by the time the surge was winding down.
>>714862568 (OP)>MH Wilds has extremely negative reviews>Anons try to convince me that its because MonHun is now casual normie which and normies decided to abandon it>Look at the reviews>Its DRM, DRM sucks so much that the game is unplayableGoddamn, is there a DRM software that doesn't suck utter ass?
>>714863306ๅฎถใซๅธฐใใชใใ็ฝ่ฑ
>>714862568 (OP)>recent reviews at 12% recommended
>>714862568 (OP)>kill>players>reviewsNone of those matter, you retarded shitposter. It sold 30 billion copies. They already got the money.
>>714863798I doubt the drm is the main cause of the game's horrid performance.
tsujimoto should of let itsuno cook instead of plagiarizing him for two and a half decades
>>714863583bro people were leaving after finishing the DLC by the time that shit started
>>714863908It must be, since this performance problem seems to have come after launch
>>714862568 (OP)I am so tired of modern gaymers.
They always do this shit
First call some new AAA game the "best thing ever, basedface" only for them lose their shit and call it "failure of the decade" a month later.
Same shit happed with Helldivers 2, Bannerlord and a bunch of other recent releases.
Personally I skipped this one because I don't like openworld games and felt like the game was too woke with the granny girlboss and zero white male hunters.
>>714863908When you call some heavy extra function checks 60+ times per second, it's gonna have a huge impact on performance.
I once tried to put an ETA timer in my calculation-heavy program, and it slowed it down by like a couple of orders of magnitude.
>>714863908It's still very very impactful.
You can neuter it with reframework mod and the performance just turns buttery smooth.
People still complaining about performance are too chickenshit to copy a dll to their game folder
>>714863956Huh, the beta test had absolutely shit performance.
>>714863956So what happened exactly? Did they already axe Shitnuvo and switch to that even worse garbage they usually use after enough time has past?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yhacyXcizA
>Profound Perf Problems Must Be Addressed
>the problems never get addresses since they're caused by the engine and whole game would need to be ported to unreal 5 to fix things
>>714864325>ported to unreal 5 to fix performanceLiterally polishing a turd to try hiding the smell.
>>714864235Capcom is using their own drm on top of denuvo so there are two drms running
>>714864430>their own DRMDidn't they use that slavic Enigma DRM or whatever in the past?
>>714864325You know your shit is going real bad when porting your game to unreal 5 would be a performance improvement.
>>714862568 (OP)>Capcom makes MH World, shooting series into the mainstream >Makes MH Rise a few years later>Worldfags hate rise because it's to much like the older games that they've never played>Kick and scream for years about it>Capcom makes wilds a d does everything the Worldfags wanted>The game is a steaming pile of shitThis proving that Worldfags are secondaries and should be hanged for ruining MonHun.
>>714863992>granny girlbossHuh?
>>714863992>First call some new AAA game the "best thing ever, basedface" only for them lose their shit and call it "failure of the decade" a month laterNobody called Wilds the best thing ever at release, if anything it got demolished by a lot of people simply because you couldn't play the game without it stuttering like shit even on high-end rigs. A lot of people also trashed the horrid first part of the game and its forced story, it got mixed reviews at release and then slowly descended to current reviews. Capcom fucked up releasing the game in that state, and doubling down on their retarded scripts
>>714864372>>714864560what remotely recent unreal 5 game do you think has poor perf?
>>714862568 (OP)They did, Dragon's Dogma 2 had very good initial sales. Imagine if it was a good game that organically became more and more popular after launch.
>>714864134>You can neuter it with reframework mod and the performance just turns buttery smooth.Does Stracker's Loader work for Wilds?
>>714863834>IceborneThat's the DLC dumbfuck
World came out in 2018
Did Wilds also have one of these retarded "follow the glowing firefly and spam the pick up button every few steps over a glowing dot or footprint" experiences? If there was anything about World that I absolutely hated it's how they gamified the gathering mechanics to the point that it felt like I was playing an autoclicker.
>>714864802It's in it but optional
>>714864693Every single UE5 game except Fortnite because that game is almost impossible to run poorly.
>>714864849so you dont know of a single example and are mentally ill
Negative reviews are only on steam, and the game has at most 80 hours of content
Of course the playerbase has dropped off retard, whose going to play the same hunts over qnd over when you've already maxed out your gear?
God you fags make me want to do a mass casualty event
Methinks the RE Engine should just be used exclusively for Resident Evil going forward. Because it seems that they are the only Capcom Devs that even have a clue on how it works.
>>714864613You're full of shit and very butthurt. It's pathetic.
>>714864235Oh no they just added a second DRM on top of that
>>714864861Glowfly tracking is in the game but entire unneeded.
Uh oh. The seething Wilds Defence Force has arrived to defend the honour of the worst MH game.
>>714864958He's clearly just shitposting and baiting for (You)s. Nobody is retarded enough to genuinely believe what's written in that post.
>>714864802Worse than that, it had whole sections where you could only walk on your bird following the uninteresting npc blabbering about retarded lore nobody cares about while the game is trying to stop you from picking up stuff. The first fifteen hours are like that.
>>714864693Stalker 2, KF3 (not even out yet), Immortals of Aveum, Remnant 2.
The dead by daylight graphical update, though that's a frankenstein of ue4 and ue5.
dropped because I don't like my hunter talking and the story was boring
monster hunter was the go to game to avoid woke crap.
it was just monsters and grinding.
they made it about "story" and "characters" and now its lost its reputation of being a "monster only no humans" game series
the retards even removed the garbled speech and replaced it with english.
its now like literally any other series that can be ruined. its no longer special. now its just a grinding game.
>>714864902It's a multiplayer game, you fucking moron. Player count is a direct measure of success and factually affects income based on engagement with paid subscriptions like Xbox Live.
Anyone dismissing this as not a big deal is so fucking dumb it blows my mind.
>>714862568 (OP)>did capcom kill their golden gooseMH Wilds doesn't have a dedicated canteen, so to be completely honest with you I'm not sure Capcom entirely understands what people like about Monster Hunter.
>>714862568 (OP)>did capcom kill their golden goosethey set the oven to 450 and left it in their until the whole thing turned into charcoal
I'm so fucking happy normalfags finally put their foot down for once. Maybe we'll actually get good MH games again, and no more CINEMATIC AAA sloppa.
>>714865148I like the fact that I can actually run World at a reasonable framerate.
>>714865148Holy fuck I didn't know it was this bad.
Capcom has very quickly become EA Japan.
>>714862568 (OP)>game series known for grinding material and endgame farm loop>release a game where everything is instantly given to players and no endgame content>flopWhy are they acting surprised here?
>>714865148here we have some real (vegan) food for you
u rike?
>>714865147Its not a multiplayer game, it has optional multiplayer. You can finish every piece of content solo and capcom gets no money from the online subscriptions you fucking imbecile
How much did your mom drink when she was pregnant? Seems like a lot for you to be incapbale of grasping basic facts
are you faggots going to have this thread daily once the expansion is released and itโs a success just like the base game?
yea you buck broken niggers probably will.
>>714864560yea yea chang, we already know the capcom hate in this shithole comes from chinks n gooks pushing unreal engine sloppa and gatcha non stop.
>>714865101stalker 2 is made by some obscure ukrainian team and negative reviews are mostly about the game design or people with super old pc's.
IoA has like 1k reviews on steam so no one even played it. also came out in 2023
remnant 2 is from 2023 like ioa
meanwhile 2024 and 2025 has dozens and dozens of UE5 titles coming out since its THE ubiquitous engine to use
>>714864779Not that I know of. Reframework is the go to mod for re engine games.
>>714864802Most of the game is like rise where you have a monster icon qui a question mark on the map that already tells you where to look.
There are tracks to sniff at end game to make tempered monsters spawn but it's not mandatory and mostly gives you extra parts
>>714865409lmao
look at this drone pushing UE5.
kill yourself you yellow faggot.
>>714865150>I'm so fucking happy normalfags finally put their foot down for once.They wouldn't have bought the game if they did that. Hopefully, the grank expansion wilds gets dumped on from the start instead of being a late realization after capcom got their money. The director or whoever it was who said the game was a success due to focusing on story needs a reality check and a massive dick slap across the face so that he can't just cope about good sales.
>>714862795the real reason it got big was WoW and FFXIV having a mass exodus at the time so it nabbed a ton of MMO refugees
I just want an HD remaster of the older titles like FU and P3rd.
Is that truly so much to ask? What the fuck is Capcom's problem? It's like they despise their own fanbase. It's like they ONLY care about shareholders and think they have to forsake the past for the future.
This is so fucking nasty it makes my stomach churn in disgust. And they can't even give us an honest reason for why they won't do it.
"It was a live-service! The multiplayer was what held the games together!"
Nigga I've been playing them all my life. I've had to emulate these fucking games to play them. Fuck off.
But maybe what I'm asking is a monkey's paw. They'd probably try to add some faggot shit like the glaive or charge blade. Bitch-made weapons for pussy ass cucks.
>>714865390Even if mp is optional, game has tons of cosmetic dlc that capcom could have earned a lot of money from with a starting pool of 5 millions+ players
Negative reviews can also negatively impact the master rank expansion sales.
>>714865409>ubiquitous = goodYou know it's only "ubiquitous" because the industry started teaching that shit in schools and adopting it for ease of employee turnover. Not because it ran well. It's the exact reason CDPR is dropping their own inhouse engine, they can hire infinite jeets from diploma farms instead of teaching someone competent how to use their inhouse engine for a few months.
>>714865148>no canteen>all the villages are extremely shit with mostly non-existent bgm >didn't even think the gathering hall was important enough to be included at launchthey really just don't get it anymore
4U nailed the feel of traveling around to see different cultures 1000% better
>>714864613The retention rate for Iceborne being pretty abysmal already proved that, but they chose to ignore it
Most of the normalfag locust did not actually care about the series after they had their fill
>Monster Hunter is not a multiplayer game
>World zoomers unironically believe this
Grim.
>>7148654762025 goty is made on UE5
wonder how that happens when people just cant run unreal games at playable framerates
>>714865618and all future games using ue5 can use cdpr code in the engine for perf improvements
>>714865751Matchmaking is the death of co-op games and community interaction
Discord doesn't help either
>>714865761>capcom hater is a e33 faggotyea no surprise. you niggers truly predictable as fuck.
>>714862568 (OP)>Wilds is doomed>meanwhile there are plenty of full lobbies at any hour of the dayAnyway...
>>714865761Death Stranding 2 doesn't use ue5.
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>>714864613>hate rise because it's to much like the older games
>>714865818remember dragons dogma 2 where the npc's teleport in 5m away from the player?
why is anyone using capcoms engine again?
>>714865751>Behemoth>16p lobbies>daily login bonusesWorld is the only game that prove the case that it's absolutely an mp online game.
Old MH is a slog to finish solo, but as a kid with too much time you didn't know better.
>>714865618Those "jeets" made rockets, and we went to moon.
You are probably from a third world country who can't afford food and eat trash daily. Or Pakistan.
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>>714865867you are such a dumb faggot, you
dont really like vidya.
you canโt even realize how ue5 makes every single game by different developers loom and feel the same.
you are literally a detriment to hobby and you are shilling for vidya to be mass produced by yellow code monkeys using UE5.
kill yourself you soulless nigger, do it.
What game did you faggots start with?
My first was Freedom Unite. I don't consider worlds a mainline title because it is fucking nothing like the rest of the franchise. I realize it introduced a huge new audience, but I consider you all braindead retards who suck their own thumbs, especially if you bought Wilds thinking it would be any good.
>>714866072they all use PBR and ray tracing in the future anyway
>>714865862Are we pretending again that people played this game mode more than once or twice?
>>714866140Wilds is good outside of performance problems
>>714866140Monster Hunter, (ps2, yes the first one where you attack with the analogs) and yes World was exactly the evolution me and many wanted
>>714862568 (OP)>The game's legs have completely collapsed after 3 months while World stayed in the top 10 of the NPD for 3 years straight and Rise stayed in the top 10 in Japan's sales charts for 2 years straight>This piece of shit already knocked out of the top 20 and didn't even sell 1 million in Japan and the chinks who bought it are also making sure everyone knows its total garbage despite catering to them>PC version dropped in the charts back into the abyss on steam despite the sale going onPathetic, hope it was worth it Crapcom hilarious that this also happened to DD2.
>>714866140I played the first one via rental, went full Monhunfag with Freedom and Freedom Unite.
>>714866140i started with the PS2 demo
FU is my favorite
worldborne despite all it's flaws is still easily top3 MH games
>>714866327chinks hating capcom, gooks hating capcom, faggots hating capcom meanwhile MH Wilds and DD2 are a major success and a blast to play.
>>714866327Game getting reviewbomb by chinks, for a reason I forgot, made everyone realize the game is actually kinda shit at the end of the day.
>>714863583lmao the cope responses to this. Guys just take the L and move on
>>714866327Capcom is returning to the form to achieve a blasting success and defeat RACISM and Drumpf
>>714866327Capshitfags coping that Wilds is complete and total dogshit and so was DD2 hence why that trash flopped and is officially dead.
>Game had major sales and only moved 300k more copies across all platformslol no wonder these shitters consider it disappointing sales now but hilarious how GamerRant considers those numbers "impressive" lmao
>>714866327scatcom putting out a "customer harassment policy" just before admitting they cannot fix the game
>>714864693all of them retard unreal fucking sucks
>>714866838Yeah it sucks on 1060 gpus
>>714866327people dont like wilds and capcom is asshurt about it and is now saying they will sue people for "harassing" their devs it's the same shit sega was doing when pso2 was getting a lot of shit a year or two ago
Well I'm glad DD2 got released before Wilds so I knew capcom went into enshitification phase of gaming industry.
>>714866958does pragmata look like it runs like shit, despite being a presumably linear game of gray corridors
>>714867015Ah yeah the gtx 970, it sucks on it too
There were more players playing World a month ago than there were players playing Wilds, that's ludicrous, but I get it.
>>714864690the game was overwhelmingly positive for a month and a top seller.
>>714864613I still love how World players honestly believe Wilds wasn't tailor made for them.
>>714862568 (OP)I'm still just playing World and enjoying myself.
>>714867043It took them like 4 months to fix performance, wilds team don't care.
>>714866242except for the story being intrusive and boring, exploration being irrelevant, the performance being terrible, hunting not being a thing and the combat being way too easy thanks to the broken seikret, palicos and the monsters having no health? yeah, apart from all of that the rest of the game is good
>>714867291wtf are you talking about, it was on mixed reviews the day it released on steam
>>714867093I'm on a 4070S, but nice try
>>714862568 (OP)Yeah, next mh sale will be abysmal
mh wilds was sold on the back of mh world
>>714862568 (OP)I called it. Before I even started HR I could tell something was off about this game. I was called doomer, the guy that hates everything, etc. for calling it out. Now everyone sees it for what it is
wilds numbers seemed very inflated after launch for an otherwise niche series outside of japan. reminded me of elden ring doing triple the numbers of any other souls game despite being worse than just about all of them. is that the true power of making open world slop? normies just hear that trigger word and flock?
>>714867759gaming market grew in size + retards falling for hype and advertisements
The solution is simple. Destroy the "open world" and make every biome their onw instance.
>>714867759its common that later entries going to a popular form factor explore in popularity and acclaim
>fallout 1, 2 kinda shit. F3 comes out and is a big hit>witcher 1,2 kinda mid. W3 comes out and wins everything>warcraft series does poorly, wow comes out and is a big hit>stalker series is super niche, stalker 2 comes out and people buy it to spite russia
>>714866005while the rockets were made in india, they were not made by indians themselves.
they literally outsourced it to the usual nasa scientists
meanwhile this noname desert game runs on 4k with a 3060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNQxCjZnI3s&t=561s
>>714862795The negative reviews have more to do with how badly optimized the game is than what you just said
>>714862568 (OP)Yuya Tokuda is a hack
>>714866890Most PC gamers have either a 3060 or a 4060, Monster Hunter Wilds runs like shit on both. If your game only runs well on a 4090 or 5090 only 1% of PC gamers can play your game.
>>714862568 (OP)capshit gets what it deserves. game after game they do not learn their lesson. they need to go bankrupt
>>714867896Every biome is its own instance linked by loading corridors I swear you retards have never even touched it
>>714868234You don't know what instance means
>>714865268Thats bingtendo. The president of nintendo America is literally an ex EA employee. Capcom is a close second with their dlc shit now but retards buy it so
>>714867656Why did Dragon's Dogma run like shit and needed 8th gen to become worth playing
>>714868234Bethesda had this shit locked down in starfield
separate every room with 1 npc in it into its own instance with a loading screen
works flawlessly, players loved it and todd won goty
>>714862568 (OP)I'm SO glad Capcom is getting fucked after ruining the series with World and beyond.
Wilds deserves to burn in hell after Ryoza said its success was because of the "focus on story"
>>714865985>Behemothfun times
>>714862568 (OP)>make fun of Capcom>money stolen
>>714862795>trying harder to appeal to normalfags who already moved onWhat are you even talking about? Wilds sold copies like crazy.
>>714862568 (OP)good, now if only nu Zelda and nu Fire Emblem followed
>>714862568 (OP)I'm SO glad Capcom is getting fucked after ruining the series with Cross and beyond.
Wilds deserves to burn in hell after Ryoza said its success was because of the "focus on story"
>>714868367Because PS3/360 had too little RAM, DD always ran well on PC.
>>714865148Honestly great point. The palicoes and absurd cutscenes were an automatic buy from female audiences who otherwise wouldnโt have cared. Wilds is more interested in aping God of War. Total misunderstanding of their audiences
>>714868536Yeah, 4 years later, I'm sure in 2029 Monster Hunter Wilds will finally be playable.
>>714868475Yeah, "Normies" are vapid as fuck, They brought into the hype. And to no-ones surprise, dropped it as soon as they could because they are not genuine fans and the actual fans dropped because it isn't monster hunter. it's gimmicks are shit. It's graphics are shit. It's performance is shit. It's story is shit.
>>714868885>in 4 years Wilds will be playableWorks on my machine now (ps5 base
model)
>>714864693EVERY. SINGLE. ONE
TOTAL UE5 DEATH
If the next MH is open world I'm shan't bought it. I've supported every US release other than Tri, sometimes more than once. At this point I'd rather play Dauntless if I had the option.
>>714865519This will at least sour them, and I guarantee many have returned or refunded the game much like Dragons Dogshit 2. Capcom has major fucking issues these days with leadership.
>>714864560>RE:engine>UE5Are these the two worst fucking engines to ever be made? They really make Unity games look stellar.
>>714866259My first MH game was also the first monster hunter game and this anon is a normgoid bing bing wahoo press X to awesome secondary and most likely sp*nish
>>714862795>what people actually wanted from the seriesA game that doesn't run like shit?
>>714869276its weird that normies can be soured.
this has never been the case for the first 15 years of their presence in the gaming sphere, and yet in the last few years, there has been multiple flops due to normies being fed up with things.
I hope we live to see the day that normies are finally fed up with gaming in its entirety
I can't even run it
But apparently it's bad so maybe that's okay.
>>714866140I'm a Tribab, but I went back and played FU and loved it. Never played Dos or first one though.
>>714865547Uh bro ffxiv was gaining players and peaked after world. Why do you think ffxiv had a collab with world
>>714868475Wilds sold like shit. Itโs still at 10 mil even though it launched months ago. Selling like crazy would be 30 mil
>>714867759>third world brownoid is out of touch with reality Many such cases
>>714862809>no. it works fine on ps5No it the fuck does not. The framerate is embarrassing and the endemic life updates need to go away. It'a also an ugly game to begin with.
>>714868180Not to mention it looks like shit.
>>714870256XIV's collab with worlds was so fucking crazy. Worlds got a new monster, while XIV got one of the ugliest fucking looking gear sets in the whole fuckin' game.
I unironically cannot believe the players let them get away with it. The fight sucked dick, too. It wasn't very fun.
>>714869740It's not bad. People are just getting butthurt.
In about 3 years we will get 4 hours post mortem retrspective yt videos about how great it is.
>>714870926Nice, something to watch while I am eating my sugary cereals and smoking weed (that's my adulting, I can do what I want).
>>714862568 (OP)it sold 10 million copies and isnt a live service game, they dont give a shit about steam ccu
>>714862568 (OP)What happens when you're a one trick pony.
>>714865697>4U nailed the feel of traveling around to see different cultures 1000% betterI think 4U also found the perfect balance between story and gameplay. It had a plot, there were characters you interacted with and villages to explore, but they didn't get in the way of missions and gameplay, they didn't slow you down to the point where you felt like you were watching a movie. Monster Hunter World felt like a huge step backwards, and the annoying ugly assistant that was constantly shoved in your face didn't help.
>inb4 je suis montรฉ
>>714862568 (OP)>did capcom kill their golden gooseI'm deferring judgement on that until the next portable game, if they fuck that up too then yes
>>714864613>Worldfags hate rise because it's to much like the older games that they've never playedthis take is so delusional it loops back to being legitimately comedic
>>714872149>I think 4U also found the perfect balance between story and gameplay. It had a plot, there were characters you interacted with and villages to exploredisagree, it was already too much and set the path for what came after
Tri was on the right spot storywise
>>714872313>>714872313>I'm deferring judgement on that until the next portable game, if they fuck that up too then yesThe bingnigger tears will be delicious
>>714866140MH portable, then FU, tri, 4U, World complete edition. I also tried gen u but didn't like it. 4U and FU are my favorites.
>>714863834Writing google translate Japanese because you got called out for being an ESL turdie isn't the defense you think it is. And yes, the shit Japanese makes it obvious that you don't know the language.
>>714862568 (OP)I am soooo glad I didn't get baited into this shit
>>714866140FU, then tried Freedom, then pirated P3rd english patch, then emulated base Tri, then emulated 4U, then World and Iceborne, then Risebreak and now Wilds.
Rise is the only game I actively dislike despite spending around 150hrs on it. FU holds a special place in my heart and so do World and Tri.
>>714862795World came out before Covid, retard.
>>714865862Notice how this mode was completely abandoned in the expansion? They realized no one wanted it. You don't have to do the those missions any more than you have to.
>>714862568 (OP)How did they do it this time?
>>714862568 (OP)Wilds was the best selling MH game so no. WIlds saved the game as it moves toward a new direction of immersive and cinematic gameplay over janky and boring monster hunting.
>>714863583Iceborne came out in January 2020, that's where the spike comes from. You should also know World sold way more on PS4.
>>714874221>Wilds was the best selling MH game so noincorrect, it's the fastest selling for release window, it still sit bellow world and rise in global sales
said sales wich flatlined
>All monsters are shit
>PS3 graphics
>Retarded interface
>Every low rank monster dies in 2 hits
>Every low rank monster deals 0 damage
>Unskippable walking segments
>No endgame
>No Elder Dragons
>Underwater combat
>Less monsters than MH2 and 4
>No challenge
>No MH language
Is this the worst game of all time?
>>714865862where's the fingerless glove meter?
>>714866140If you count rented then MH1 on PS2 but I don't count it since I never beat it or played it beyond the first couple days of renting. My true first MH was Freedom on psp after a friend convinced me to to get it.
3U gets way too much shit, honestly.
P3rd seems to be a game most tend to skip for some reason, too despite it being absolutely solid.
The small roster didn't hold it back from having some really good gameplay.
>>714874358Did Rise sell that well overall? Opinions fluctuate so wildly over it and any kind of reasonable discussion regarding it, or basically any MH game really, is nigh impossible. I always assumed it did well enough, but not good enough to make Capcom happy, especially with how long it took for it to go multiplat.
>>714862809It's shit on ps5 I have the game..about to trade it for superior Kojima game
>>714875665It's Capcom's second best-selling game right behind World.
https://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/million.html
>>714875665Rise sold like hot pockets on switch and like shit everywhere else.
>>714875875>>714875964Damn, 17 million is way more than I expected. Even Sunbreak didn't do too shabby.
>>714862809>failed on PC almost entirely because of dogshit performance>PC cattle have no standards!do you even think about what you're posting as you type it? take you meds, retard
>>714876419Before having release anywhere else it sold like 8m in a first year on switch alone.
I assume around 12m out of 17m copies are on switch.
>>714875964The difference is that every other platform has the choice. Switch is stuck with Rise as their only game.
>>714876764yes and it was designed specifically for toilet sesh
>>714867306It's too much like world in the things that I didn't like and not enough like world in the things that I liked. Considering they proudly announced that wilds did so well because of the story (which no one knew about before buying the game) it's not surprising that they are also completely out of touch with what people liked or didn't like about world and rise.
>>714862795how is wilds pandering to normalfags with that draconic UI and god awful wheel inventory lol
>>714876419There's been a lot of negative talk about Rise when it came out due to the graphics and wirebugs, but it's honestly still a great MH game that also added very cool features like different weapon moves you can swap around. I unironically cannot play non-Rise Greatsword anymore because of this, I can't go back to the standard moveset.
>>714875765>I have the gameNo you dont
>>714877149I agree that it's a great MH game. It's not without its flaws, but I think Rise's flaws are significantly less annoying than World's flaws.
I do loathe World and Rise GS, however. I hate the TCS focus and Rage Slash really doesn't do it for me either. Also fuck every single faggot who plunks down a SBB every time a monster falls over so they can Rage Slash the head and fuck literally everyone else over.
>>714865147I played Monhun since FU and have NEVER, EVER, done a hunt not solo. Multiplayer might as well not even exist.
>>714877431I found rage slash to be useful for certain monsters, but I mostly played with the skill swap that gave you extremely damaging 3-hit combos instead of a charge attack. Felt more in line with my hit-and-run playstyle since I came from Hammer.
>>714863834>lockdown took place during the first half of 2020>meaning lots of bored people had time to play the fresh DLCSo he's right lmao
>>714877724That was Surge Slash, I think? I never touched that since I just really like to play GS the same way I did it from FU all the way through GenU, i.e. draw attacks and level 2/3 charges when the opening allows it. The idea of a combo GS just felt weird to me.
Man, Rise hammer was also fun to play. HH is really the biggest blemish on Rise's weapon roster. I truly don't know why they changed it up the way they did it. If they want more people to play Horn then they should just give it overall bigger numbers, not attempt to streamline it and make it into something else.
>>714876567>failedYou retards sure showed crapcom.
letgo
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>>714878164Man Rise Horn was stupid, you just had to stand inside the monster and mash buttons like a retard until you could do your big breakdance thing. Felt more like Dual Blades.
I loved Rise Hammer too, unfortunately its damage fell off hard in Sunbreak so I had to switch off for the lategame monsters. One Surge Slash combo from my Greatsword did as much damage as my full optimal damage Hammer combo that included fully charged smashes and the big wirebug slam attack lmao.
Just like with Pokemon SV, all the negative reviews and players dropping the game means shit if the game already sold millions. Capcom will never actually "get hurt" unless the next game sells badly compared to Wilds which is actually a PTSD situation for Capcom, remember FUCKING Megaman Battle Newtork 4? It's the worst BN game...and also the best selling one because the hype of BN3 but people got mad over how shit it was and didn't buy the next game so Capcom ended it all with BN6.
>>714865862ah yes, the content you only do 3 times and then never again for the remainder of the game + expansion
>>714879427I am genuinely glad that Battle Network ended with 6. 6 was a great game and BN ended on a high note with it, rather than get milked into oblivion. Or worse, a gacha version, which the game really lends itself to.
Star Force was alright, but it just wasn't the same.
>>714862568 (OP)I can't understand how they finally managed to piss off MonTroons.
>re-release the same PS2 game for 20 years>finally make one with up to date graphics (world)>its a smash hit everyone fucking loves it except 4 irrelevant neckbeards on /v/>Make a SEQUEL to that extremely high fidelity game, no real generation leap has taken place hardware wise>Its a buggy unoptimized mess because you wanted the Glampohongrolax to accurately sniff the Bungo-Bongodon's crusty asshole offscreen or some shitI legit can't understand how they messed up the COD of Japan.
>>714879427Wasn't Star Force basically a MMBN sequel but for DS? They just wrapped up the story and moved on
>>714879798>its a smash hit everyone fucking lovesExcept for the plot and how fucking annoying the handler was, but people saw it as a minor incovenience. Capcom misunderstood and double down in an even lamer (with forced auto walks with exposition that you can't skip because "the west loves cinematic games") plot and an even more annoying character with Nata but this time people didn't take it, not helped with how shit the optimizartion for the game is.
>>714862809Like Dragon's Dogma 2 which ran at 720p and dropped below 30? Like FF16 which ran at 720p and dropped to high 40s in perf mode?
Stop fucking lying. Games nowadays are unoptimized as fuck and EVERY platforms suffers for it.
Instead of pointless shit flinging between PC and console, focus on developers that make shitty unoptimized games in the first place.
>>714879881Star Force was a new saga but ended up cut short because Starforce 2 was a failure so they ended it all with Starforce 3 (and did a shitty job, unlike with BN6, yeah, his father got back but they didn't show with what girl he ended up, which is what people cared the most).
>>714866224Outside of Allmother farming, it was the best source of materials for melding in the bade game, so yeah, it was no waiting time queu.
>>714862568 (OP)QRD what happened? I dont play monster hunter games (they all suck balls)
>>714862568 (OP)I was on the fence about Wilds because, without fail, every established game series that decides to go "Open World" ends up fucking sucking dick. I played the demo and thought it was alright, but far from being worth the price they were asking for so I skipped it.
Now I'm hearing how there's too much mind-numbing story, performance issues out the ass making it unplayable for most people, and how the gameplay itself was gutted to be easier than Rise was (while being slower than World so it isn't even fun). Purely through second-hand info, Wilds seems to be the collective of all the worst MonHun game parts done over the last decade. I haven't seen a MonHun game trashed this much since Frontier.
I liked World and Rise and Wilds isn't a terrible game but it's kind of a wet fart. People were expecting a bigger and better World 2 but instead we got a content drought pointless open world with terrible graphics and performance.
It's like a 6 or a 7 but MonHun is not supposed to be a 6 or a 7. Wilds isn't outright bad but it's the first mediocre MonHun.
>>714878164>>714879237HH changes were fine, becoming way more agressive, porblem was that the game was build around bug skills and HH only got ONE good bug skill, which didnt happen till the expasion
>>714880458Depends on what you mean by slower than World. Menu navigation? Sure. Combat? Lol fuckno. Combat is mobile tier braindead mashing; you can cancel animations and change your weapon swings during any active frames and focus mode gravitates you towards your target (your character slides across the ground during a attack, looks hilarious).
Performance is the scapegoat because the actual gameplay aspect is a total dumpster fire.
>>714880458The game is basically unplayable on anything below a 9070 XT and 5080. For some reason it runs really well on AMD cards (comparatively, a shitty 6700 XT still won't run it well).
>>714880745>Cancel animations????
You have always been able to roll out of certain ending animations
Anyone with a brain could tell that World and Rise doomposting was just contrarian faggotry but Wilds is legit shit. MH is not going to die but Capcom should take care to reverse course with the next game. Wilds issues are going to impact the next game's sales. Wilds mostly sold well due to the hype generated by the previous two games.
>>714881004This isn't the DMC general bro
>>714881172I havent been paying attention to doomposting, what's being said about Wilds?
I liked it at launch but missing huge features that make MH fun to me, like felyne meal cutscenes and room customization.
What bothers me the most though is how fundamentally the gameplay is vastly different because they just decided to let you enter TPS mode (???) for free and get full 360 degree freedom on your attacks. It kind of shits on the established balance and gameplay of Monster Hunter and makes the game utterly braindead
Wtf are publishers spending their money on if not devs, Like actual devs for gameplay and programming devs. How much bloated is the graphics for games. Wilds is ugly to boot.
>>714881647The game was heavily outsourced by bugs and street shitters. So was SF6. The games have gotten so bloated and big that Milds is an amalgamation of diff devs and teams working on individual portions. Hey you know what it's just like RE6 and that was the fastest selling shitcom title then it killed the series for years.
>>714881647Assets are a pretty big deal nowadays I gather. It gets outsourced in huge contracts to china/india who do that shit in bulk
AI will cause a lot of changes in that industry. I know people sperg out when the term AI is used in this context, but it's quite a viable replacement for having 200 indians make random rocks and barrels for you.
>>714862568 (OP)What exactly happened? Did they kill it with a patch or some shit?
>>714882132Resident evil 6 tier dogshittery
>>714882275but RE6 is a great game. there isnt a single bad RE game just like there isnt a bad MH game.
you faggots have some really shit taste man.
>>714862809You need more than one (good) mass selling release to become a staple. I don't think wilds qualifies
>>714878969Bro their quarterly report shows itโs a failure. Itโs a gaas game that lost 99% of its players in a month with no big releases scheduled for this fiscal year for capcom
>>714882435You just know this anon believes in reincarnation
>>714864613>hate rise because it's to much like the older gamesfucking kys
>>714882729k nigger, looking forward to seeing this same exact thread with these same exact copes for the next two years, at least.
>>714882615>No big release this fiscal yearLol they are launching RE9, Onimusha and Pragmata Q1 2026 all in unfinished states to try and hit their goal. They are fucked for 2026 fiscal thoever
>>714882895You just know this anon locks his door when his cousins come over
i'm certain the MH A team doesn't know how to use the RE engine, and that capcom is mismanaged enough so there's no knowledge transfer between teams
B team had RE experience with Risebreak
the DD2 team as well
yet in wilds every optional thing in engine is enabled by default such as wind simulation, wich seemingly isn't used since trees and foliage keep moving when turned off so they most likely have baked in animation like most games, but wind simulation is active and eat a good chunk of the performance as if devs had no idea it's here
and as a user you need to install a framework and mods to turn it off, wich give you roughly 10-15fps when you turn it off
Wow another RE Engine dud? Who could've known????
>>714863750Covid-19 began in September 2019, it's amazing how you retards have already forgotten so much so soon. You want to know why it's called Covid-19? Because it was discovered in the year 2019.
>>714883420that anon is probably vaxxed and double boosted, heโs trying his hardest to bury the painful memory of him being a buck broken faggot while in constant fear of getting his arteries clogger with calamari at any instant.
canโt blame him.
>>714883676Last vaxxer died 2 years ago anon
Monster Hunter Wilds makes me embarrassed to play. Everything is so cutesy, childish, and girly. I swear that World wasn't this bad, loading up my male character and seeing all these dress-up dolls around me just kills the vibe. Even a lot of the outright armor is effeminate now. Japanese men really REALLY need to figure out how to see themselves as male again, it's getting to be too much.
>>714862884>>714862568 (OP)Try at least another MH, in terms of graphics World takes the cake on PC.
Performance is an issue, but Rise also shat the bed on that one for the first few months, the much bigger issue is the game being insanely easy and stripped of everything that makes it monster hunter.
I don't even need to prepare for most hunts, just bring a ton of healing pots and you're golden. Traps are quite rare in the maps and mostly you're just lucky to hit them instead of luring the monster there because why waste time if the fight is over in 8 minutes anyways.
Rise AT LEAST had you work for your openings (with the same boring get a monster, throw a flash, do some funnies bs but alas), Worlds feels like thanks to wounds you can just throw the fuckers around like a little girl whenever you please instead of carefully hacking away at the legs or hammering the head until they topple.
Wounds are boring, the armor is boring, and thanks to Capcom streamlining EVERYTHING you really notice how little goddamn content Wilds has.
>>714883942sure lil bro, turbo cancer rates up over 300% is just a cohencidence.
>>714862568 (OP)Capcom is currently one of the most overrated company in the industry. Their games quality has been degrading for a while now but everyone is so used to playing absolutely disgusting slop that even a mediocre game looks apetizing. I'm glad people are finally catching on, they have also started seeing games that are praised like RE4 Remake for what they really are.
>>714884250name a better current developer.
there is none
Capcom, Fromsoft, Koei Tecmo and Sega are the holy trinity of vidya. they are on top and the gap between them and those below is as vast as space.
>>714884073I'm so glad I didn't get jabbed and have to worry about the elevated risks of cancer that seems to be going around 'for absolutely no reason at all' many would have us believe, no wait it's the ozone layer in Australia that's causing more cancer, nothing at all to do with experimental medicine given without long term studies on the side effects. It's global warming or the heat that's causing higher cancer rates and myocarditis.
>>714868764I still don't get why the goddamn cat has to speak now
during the missions as well
we memed about the fucking pawns in DDDA going "wolves hunt in packs sire" for 10 years and capcom decided "yeah let the monster hunter cat be that"
>>714862568 (OP)God, I hope so. I get so sick of that shit eating up like 15-20 minutes of every Capcom presentation.
>>714881064>>714881230Have you never played DB, Bow or LS? Those are all literally designed with animation canceling in mind.
>>714884406>Capcom, Fromsoft, Koei Tecmo and Sega are the holy trinity of vidya.no wonder videogames are so shit nowadays
Reminder
next MH game won't arrive before 2028,
likely 2029
>>714885243you dont like video games, youre just a chink shill shilling gatcha and unreal engine sloppa.
They are retarded for making it a live service game where the "content" is a boring event once a month where you fight something you fought before and a new monster every 2 months. No one is going to come back for that. Dump everything you have at the same time none of this live service garbage
*shills take federal holiday*
*forget theyโre the only players*
*no one notices the money laundering*
>>714865862https://youtu.be/FkJmgF6ptsk?t=9
I prefer Wilds more than vanilla World and Rice
And since my taste is exquisite I hereby declare that haters are just salty plebs
>>714886494>gif >glazing shit [new product]>filenameUnholy trinity of bot red flags
>>714864613wow this post really triggered the worldsnoys
>>714880370Latest one sucked balls.
>>714885448To be fair, I've realized that my life's pretty good when that's my current biggest source of despair.
>>714887437>it's okay when MH is shit because I'm otherwise happymaybe MH should die then
>people rightfully shit on half-rice
>snoys starts shitting themselves and screaming about rise to try deflect
They just got extremely greedy with wilds.
They didn't want to make a good game, they just wanted to make money. And it shows.
Awful performance, slop story, easy gameplay and no soul
Wtf is happening to JP fans over there
>>714887606I didn't say that.
>>714883420Nobody was paying attention to COVID in September except /pol/fags desperate for a happening, it wasn't until Tom Hanks got it that normalfags took it seriously. Trump didn't restrict travel to China until February 2020 and lockdowns came after that. You're the retard whose forgotten what happened.
>>714888015>World wide pandemic>Only brings up AmericaYou're a retard
>>714887834>capcom plans to give a lecture about how they optimized wilds >everyone laughs at them because wilds runs like dogshit and is a buggy mess >they cancel it and start crying about death threads I see capcom is becoming more western
>>714866940Lol Square Enix is also doing that.
They're going full retard. Japs are notoriously retarded when it comes to owning up to being out of touch. They genuinely huff their own wet farts. Fucking filthy nips.
>>714883314>Blaming the engine for dogshit artstyle decision and dogshit optimizationBrainlet shit
>>714888201>>714887834>capcom plan to burn an office for insurance fraud so they can make up for their lossi figured it out
>people in this thread acting like the olds monster hunter games were pinacle of optimisation and performance
lol theres isnt a single mh game that targeted or maintained 60fps at release exept maybe rise
>>714889567none of the older games had the models just break and become three triangles like half-rice does
>>714862568 (OP)Works on my PS5 kek
>>714862809>ps5cucks are so starved for anything that resembles a game so they have no standards
Monster Hunter is a meme game. The only reason to play it is to show everyone how weeb you are, unless you are autistic enough for its Maplestory-ass grind after playing the first couple of missions.
>>714887834>Crazy nip NEET threatened to pull a Kyoani on Capcom if they didn't fix the performance issues.
>>714889567Not even Rise, it's locked 30 even on switch 2.
>>714865148>No le silly cat cooks from world and previous>no cute girl making you dango like rise>Ugly child makes ugly looking good insteadWhat is their ISSUE?
>>714891041At least it maintains performance
>>714869018working bare minimum you mean
>>714887834>Wtf is happening to JP fans over thereThey're just really excited for the portable title (timed exclusive), it's understandable. Rise was really good.
>>714864613Delusional tendie post as always, people hate Rise because it's Ichinose's usual offbrand bullshit, and World is genuinely truer to MH's roots than Ichinose's take on Toukiden
>>714868089It's also a dogshit 10 hours long game with textures straight out of 2010 so that's not particularly damning for Crapcom, there's far better games to use as examples, Atlas Fallen just ain't one of them.
>>714862568 (OP)They're also review bombing world and icebourne, what the hell is going on?
>>714864613>Worldfags hate rise because it's to much like the older games that they've never playedlol lmao, this fucking sheer revisionism. A lot of the shittiest stuff in Wilds is directly ported over from Rise.
>>714891698>Wilds is directly ported over from Rise.*World, sorry guys don't know what overtook me there.
>>714862568 (OP)>too easy to be fun>new monster cycle too slow to bring people back for novelty>too generous with resources to force power users to grind>story is too shit to replay>"updates" completely fucking tanked the ability to even play the gameyeah, they really dropped the ball
they could bring it back with its Iceborne, but it's far from a sure thing right now
>>714891560>world and its forced story shit is truer to MH's roots snoys are still seething about rise and every good monster hunter game
>>714862809>says pc players have no standards while admitting snoys are just eating it up and pretending it is fine
>>714892201nta but why cant you faggots accept that it runs great on ps5? it definitely runs way better than World did on ps4. you deny this truth is such a weird cope.
>>714892392>why can't you faggots accept my blatant lie?
>>714889567>standards should remain lowfuck off
>>714891560>tendieSeething
>>714862795This doesn't make sense cause wilds did like at least twice as good as worlds. The people knew exactly what they wanted. Elden ring sold 30 million and world sold like a dozen. people don't mind hard games if they are fun. I don't get how crapcom went full fuvkig dei nigger pandering when they had world and elden ring success to realize no reason to make the game baby mode. Also aiming ur hunter with focus mode as you attack is just not fun lol. It cheapens the game feel. At this point just make lock on op.
>>714862568 (OP)World and Wilds both suck and are terrible MH games, and you're a fucking retard if you shit on Wilds for things World did first.
World is the reason why Wilds is as shit as it is.
They're both shitty cinematic experiences that try to make some ecosystem full of life with an intrusive story at the expense of gameplay, with monsters that can't fight back, no content in favor of FOMO dripfeed, and the hardest thing in both is menu navigation as you try to join RNG investigations since the monster you wanted doesn't show up on your end.
They both had terrible performance issues as well, and Wilds being much worse in this aspect doesn't mean World is excused just because you could brute force it much easier.
Don't be so quick to forget the atrocious IB launch either with it's added DRM raping performance. DRM that could be temporarily bypassed by bringing up the popup that asks you if you wanted to quit the game and then moving it to the corner of your screen as you continued to play.
Crapcom have always been incompetent retards that have been propped up by their cult of fanboys and e-celebs.
>>714862568 (OP)I wouldn't say killed but they sure as fuck hurt it
one or two more mainline entries of similar quality will kill it
>>714891762>Rise completely removed any sort of monster tracking, monster is always on the map>Rise gave players way more movement and attack options which monsters couldn't keep up with, a lot of former silkbind and wirebug abilities just got baked into more spammy movesets, counterattack overload got brought over from Rise>Rise gave greater importance to the humanoid characters and even named them and made them able to fight alongside you>Rise put in high speed fully controllable mounts>Rise was even easier than World, and in turn Wilds is easier than Rise>lack of hitstop that had to be changed was almost certainly taken from how Rise had low or no hitstop>carried over ideals of shitty meals from Rise>no final boss and extremely incomplete at release like Rise>wounds are basically afflicted bubbles>faster pace and faster kills overall is more like RiseNo.
tri was the last good monster hunter
>>714863248>>714863834He's completely fucking right, everyone talked about the lockdown resurgence of World, there's dozens of videos on it
>>714864613>Worldfags hate rise because it's to much like the older gamesbait
>>714892790>literally everything is shit world did snoys are broken
>>714892790Did not play rise yet but didnt sunbreak introduce a good difficulty?
>>714893529it did
worldbabs just try pretend their cutscene slop is "hard" because the final enemy in the game can ko you if you stand around and let it
>>714893512Nope. Take your consolewar deflection and shove it.
>>714893892Nah, fuck off. Amatsu is a joke. Primozeno is good but has no HP. The risen Elders are all good too but not especially different from Wilds current 8 stars or arch tempered. Regular afflicted are just sponges.
>>714893898>snoy shits himself because anyone thats played MH knows world added all that dogshit
Shitposting aside, what really keeps me from playing more Wilds is knowing there will be an expansion that invalidates everything. We've had two games to show us that grinding whatever the vanilla endgame progression will be a total waste of time when the full game finally comes out. The base game is really only good for a single playthrough and drip feeding a couple monsters here and there doesn't change that.
>>714866140World, but after getting a taste of FU,3U,4U and GU i couldnt go back to world, especially not after having a break form the clutch claw. Rise/sunbreak is really fun but i do prefer pre world games.
>>714894150Why lie about stuff anyone can easily check? Again, fuck off with your consolewar shit and learn to speak objectively.
>>714894150Anyone who has actually played the games knows exactly what was and was not added between them, you aren't fooling anyone with your Rise is actually great bandwagon revisionism.
>>714894191I just kill shit because it's fun mostly
>>714892790>world "added" ""tracking"" that is just lick shit off the ground for 20 minutes until the monster is allowed to spawn >world adds the baby blankets, and crutch claw >world added unskippable cutscenes so the worthless human NPCS can yap at you>world is the most braindead easy game in the series as monsters don't even get to move before they die, the closest to "difficult" the game ever gets is the MMO damage phase check >world will just let you get on a mount and it auto runs you to the monster >all armor and weapon design goes down the shitter >everything added in world is such a wet fart they have to smash the panic button and shove fatalis in at the end of the game snoys are drooling retards that are STILL seething about rise being the better game years later
>>714894261>>714894445yeah playing both its easy to see why wilds is so shit since they copied from world at every chance they could
>>714894464>Be retarded fat dumbass senior in a Japanese company>Shit your pants and smear it along the floor as you bumble about the office>Yell at the new hires because they're new>Tell them how much more wise and experienced you are as you stink up the whole floor with your fecal stench>Go sit on your executive's chair and smear the shit all over your back and front>Hire lawyers to wipe the ass of the company >Get the intern to wipe yours>Pass out from high blood pressure on your chair as you start to piss yourselfIt really do be like that in Nip-land.
>>714894021>He thinks Amatsu was the endgameMother fucker Hazard and EX Risens shit on Wilds tempered Seregios and Lagi. And guess what? Objective metrics exist and every weapon has 2'15 to 2'45 times on 'the hardest monster fights in the series'. Meanwhile to this day EX Risens and Anomalies still take 4 minutes under freestyle with followers. To make it worse TAwikis for Tempered Seregios and Lagi are in the 3 minute range and EX Risens are 5/7 minutes long.
>B-B-B-ut objective times dont count Milds has the hardest endgame in the series cause I chew on my fucking joystickKill yourself.
>>714887834>Game has no redeeming values compared to older titles even Tri>Game simply don't work well on commercially available computers >Two DRMSHow can eve
>>714889976n hardcore fans hate it I wonder?
>>714864902>Negative reviews are only on steam,where else can you negatively review a game?
its weird to be aware there is only one place where you can directly voice your opinion on a game and its steam
>>714894535>world "added" ""tracking"" that is just lick shit off the ground for 20 minutes until the monster is allowed to spawnYes and Rise got rid of even that, painting the monster at all times and even including an in-game arrow pointing to it.
>world adds the baby blankets, and crutch clawRise and Sunbreak added a billion counters and the most overpowered armor skill overload in the series as well as the shitty spiribird crap and even more gachashit in the form of qurio crafting.
>>world is the most braindead easy game in the series as monsters don't even get to move before they die, the closest to "difficult" the game ever gets is the MMO damage phase checkWhich Rise doesn't even have. Instead, you beat the shit out of everything while taking zero damage because you have counters on most weapons and monster Riding does way more damage than any turf war.
>world will just let you get on a mount and it auto runs you to the monsterTrue but you have to unlock this, not so in Rise. And in Rise they double as extra allies you can have even during multiplayer alongside other players.
Armor designs are whatever, but weapon designs were shit, yes.
>worldbabs and risebabs fighting over who is more to blame for the current miserable state of the franchise
>>714866484>get your ass destroyed>g-guys take the L!!!
>>714887834This will be the next gamergate.
>>714896074MH1 and Dos are the only hard monster hunter games, everything else is casualized.
>>714896074Wonderful franchise, so many years happen since picrel and yet nothing changed, I live this hate machine community like my own mother.
>>714896074>worldfags still pretending wilds wasn't tailor made for them
>>714896512I bought world but I didn't buy Wilds
why is that?
>>714896442>actually it will outsell worldFunny to see how hard this backfired on the pajeets spamming
>>714896512Wilds is the anti-thesis of world. Wilds is literally if they took all the stuff people didnโt like in world and doubled down on it.
>>714863248>>714863834Retard of the day award!
you browns had 5 months, 2 beta's and a benchmark tool to upgrade your pc
your fault for being brown
>>714894191Thereโs not going to be an expansion for milds
>>714896837>He says as he posts the twitter streetshitter that posts nothing but 5 second slowmos of video games.
>>714896578Well monster hunter franchise is still growing and capcom had good reputation for last few years, too bad they fucked up DD2 and Wilds so badly.
>>714896837I remember when you โjeets tried running this same narrative for DD2. Why are you acting like wilds doesnโt peak during brown time zones and the player counts quite literally start dropping the whiter and whiter time zones get
>MILDS BAD
>MAKE ANOTHER EXPANSION FOR WORLD LIKE FIREBOURNE
>>714862568 (OP)they casualized the game to appeal to a larger audience
large audiences don't stick around
the original audience ran out of content
nobody's left to play the game
>>714896949and street fighter
>>714862568 (OP)I really wanted to like the game, but drm, zero optimization and focus mode killed my excitement. World is just better.
>>714897116We don't talk about tranny fighter 6
>>714896974>checks world peak players>indian prime time........ wow its brown prime time
>>714887834Japs are also mad at the shitty optimization
>>714897156Focus mode is genuinely the worst mechanic I have ever encountered in any video game ever
mhw
md5: d5d655d6d15fcc331892a412623983ae
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>>714863583>>714866484>conveniently hiding the data from early 2018 that showed it had its highest peak player count of 330k>ignoring the fact that Iceborne released on PC in January of 2020>ignoring that the lock downs didn't start until later in 2020, when the surge of Iceborne players started to go downI will accept your concession.
>>714897116>>714897213Too obvious. Wait more than a minute next time, and capitalize in one of the posts.
BTW SF6 won and you lost.
>>714897213when we are shitting on capcom, we need to talk about it.
>>714897213Slime rusher 6 is also fucked and itโs really under-discussed. Game is completely dead outside of Japan
>>714897242You don't like an action game thats known for methodical gameplay and positioning being turned into a third person shooter with mobile phone supers???
>>714862568 (OP)>did capcom kill their golden gooseThe japanese will make up for it, there's no people less human and more retarded than the asian race, these people will literally buy anything made by a japanese studio like they were hot cakes, even if they're charging 100$ for a 60$ game, they will suck the small japanese cock and gulp it all.
>but but but world is super active!
>>714897471You just know this guy is subscribed to multiple twitch streamers and is excited for wow classic+++++++++++++
>>714897471except it sold way worse than world did
>>714897395>SF6 won LMAO 6 is still getting mogged by a single version of SF2
>>714897395God dammit Rajesh I told you to think before you post. Now go wipe your asshole motherfucker.
>>714897516holy fuck world lost
DOA
>>714897448It really is the โphone gameโ control scheme
>>714894464>Capcom is abusive Japanese's bullshit law to shut up criticism.Holy shit, is that bad? Has Capcom ever done something like this before?
>>714863834The PC release did not do well initially. PS4 was 6 months ahead with content and it didn't have the same optimization/drm issues that World had. I really just think Capcom sucks at making pc ports.
>>714897471>the japanes will make up for it except half-rice is one of the worst selling MH game in japan
>>714897242I cannot imagine the thought process that went into their heads.
They should have made everything focus mode does part of the base combat and removed the 360 degrees charged attack rotations if they wanted to dumb down combat so much. Why would they lock it behind a special mode that prevents auto-sheathing when sprinting?
I installed the beta and uninstalled shortly after trying focus mode, it 100% killed my interest for the game.
>>714863834The PC release did not do well initially. PS4 was 6 months ahead with content and it didn't have the same optimization/drm issues that PC had. I really just think Capcom sucks at making pc ports.
>HAHAHAHAHAHA
its so over worldbabies
>>714862568 (OP)they killed their golden goose and didn't even make good foie gras out of it.
I hate how it took bad optimization to make people rise up against Capcom and not the extreme uglyness of the game and forced plot into throats.
>>714886494you just proved you have dogshit taste tho
>>714862568 (OP)>kill their golden gooseAs long as Leon is alive and they can contrive ways to put him in games, and they avoid an RE5/RE6-esque decline, Resident Evil will never die.
>>714897793Yet they tried to go back to World design when they made Wilds.
>>714897793Capcom is literally going bankrupt right now
>>714897659Itโs just arrogance, they wanted to reinvent the wheel. No other game has this control scheme despite the dual analog stick (one for movement one for camera) existing for a long ass time now. Probably because every other dev figured out in testing itโs fucking retarded.
Like thatโs the biggest red flag for focus being a shit idea. If it was good no way it wouldnโt exist already. No, it turns out taking a third person action game with largely melee combat and slapping in third person shooter controls is fucking antithetical, retarded, and highly homosexual
>>714897925Didn't they LITERALLY say they can't use Leon anymore in RE games because "his vast experience makes hard to write a scary game around him"?
>>714897905yeah, I barely see any push back on how hideous this game is and how they desperately want MH to be some AAA movie slop franchise
I hope so. Fuck capcom. They ruined SF6. Then they followed up MHW with some bullshit wii port nobody asked for. Eat dirt. Fucking faggots at capcom.
>um your little chuddie review bomb failed
it's so sad.......
>>714897956I know World isn't perfect, but that game is fun to play once you learn to navigate what is possibly the worst UI in the last 15 years.
>>714898127kek worldnigger seething
>>714898264Stay mad tranny. Nobody wants your gay politics in a fighting game or your shitty wii ports.
>>714898264I like how shills try le console war generation war distraction when everybody hates milds
>>714898238I am pretty sure they outsourced the combat and UI with Milds
>>714898127to third worlders. Another RE6 situation when the teams had no idea what was going on with the development and they shipped it regardless.
>>714862568 (OP)Yakuza and Monster Hunter both give off strong corporate thinktank vibes. I donโt know if Japan functions the same way we do here in the States, but SEGAโs and Capcomโs handlings of Yakuza and Monster Hunter, respectively, is so eerily similar to the โvibeโ Microsoft gives off with the Xbox. Itโs obvious that out-of-touch people more concerned with maximizing profits than delivering good games are at the helm, but theyโre aware enough to try and inject โsoulโ into the games. But they come across as so forced and sterile, like the most milquetoast people are responsible for making those games appear โfunโ.
>>714898550You only need to look at the release date bro it lined up perfectly with their fiscal year end
>>714898393you are literally brown and a worldtranny secondary tumor
>>714898461you hate wilds because it exposed you worldniggers as the cancer killing MH
>>714882132It already had poor performance and it seems like the recent updates made it even worse.
>>714889697...I thought that was a meme setting people modded in
>>714897610i dont think so but it seems like the japanese are starting to adopt western tactics when it comes to deflecting criticism
>>714863923We let Itsuno cook and we got DD2
>>714898819>and we got DD2love that game, its such a blast!
>>714863798>decide to leave a review of my own>says I already left a "Not Recommended" review>wtaf>look it up>it's some obvious ChatGPT spam whining about the DRMchange your steam passwords, boys, the Chinks are at it again
>>714866140World with defender gear
I was so confused as to why nothing was better than the defender gear. Fuck defender gear. At least I didn't have iceborne installed so I didn't make the game even easier with the clutch claw.
Looking back, it's probably the worst first experience I could've had with monster hunter, but it did get me to go back and play GU, 4U, 3U, P3rd, Tri, FU and frontier.
Top three:
1. 3U
2. GU
3. P3rd
>>714898731There ranjesh goes again spamming his script
Trying to forge le generation war as a distraction which fails because everyone hates milds
>>714898819I was told that dd2 was a blast and that anyone who wasnโt blasting was an Indian poorfag discord raider
>>714898989anyone with any small amount of pattern recognition can tell by looking at the daily threads on here and see what is really going on and its as plain and easy to see as the rising sun.
chinks n gooks hating on anything by the superior Nippon chads while shilling non stop gatcha and unreal engine slop.
>>714865697the villages actually all have great themes. you just don't actually need to visit the villages much, so more often you hear the base camp music instead
>>714899027I liked that crutch claw, it actually made the bunga blade useful for something other than waking up sleeping monsters
>>714862568 (OP)It's a tradition at this point
>>714899212the gathering hub also has its own theme and it changes depending on time of day, not to mention the singing diva with two whole songs and extra ones during events.
Wilds is oozing soul.
>>714862568 (OP)I don't understand how this series is so popular in the first place. They release the exact same game with +/- 5% delta for decades.
>>714899471Wilds is negative soul and the soundtrack especially reeks of ai
>>714862568 (OP)Yes. They killed it World. It was a textbook example of "Cashing Out".
>completely remove mechanics that defined your franchises identity.>get a massive new audience of fans>make tons of money>those same players buy the newest game(Wilds) but ditch it becuase of FOMO hype>same players who where fans now hate the game and spread negative word of mouth>next game will have lost most of those normie FOMO playersCatering to normies is a slow death spiral. You will see.
>>714899505are you niggers really this dense? imagine if everything in this world pleased everyone. that would be somewhat a dull existence no? since everyone has same interests and likes.
just kill yourself man.
>>714862568 (OP)>fill it with niggers>don't bother making it run for the largest market for the franchiseI WONDER WHAT HAPPENED
>>714899029here goes worldtranny seething and shutting its diaper because I rightfully called xhem a cancerous secondary nigger who killed the franchise and wilds is xerselves fault
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>>714862568 (OP)Capcom killed Megaman decades ago anon
>>714862568 (OP)I would be happy with Wilds if the performance wasn't so fucking ASS. It doesn't even look that good I have no idea how they decided it was fine to ship like that.
>>714899821Bro you're arguing with like 3 other anons. Why are tendies so fucking dumb.
>>714862568 (OP)>ask for hunting horn to mot be tainted by the abomination of rise>get the literal best horn moveset ever, but the monkey paw curlsI'm sorry bros
>>714862809You've upset them kek
>>714862568 (OP)Can someone Tl;Dr me what happened? I've been too busy playing other games.
>>714862568 (OP)These used to be my favorite games of all time, genuinely depressing to see what its become since the release of World. Though I would argue the decline began with Generations
>>714900106here goes worldtranny pretending xhe is not a seething worldtranny that is now crying about tendies like a typical worldnigger tranny cancer secondary who killed the MH franchise with itโs normalnigger low IQ secondary shit taste
>>714900292People will argue the decline began with 4U, Tri, etc all spawning from FU players. Reality is gen 1-4 all kept the core fundamentals with slight mixups over time. The series did not get a new identity until World. Whether you dislike 5th gen or 6th gen is irrelevant because any gen from 4 and prior were largely the same game.
>>714898751no the 5 polygon monsters is a bug from the game breaking because it runs so badly
>>714866140Freedom 1 on PSP
played every game since, tried 1 on PS2 but having the attack controls being wiggling the joystick felt like shit
>>714862568 (OP)Their golden goose is Resident Evil, so no.
>>714862568 (OP)When the game keeps getting more unstable with every update you're gonna lose people
>>714889567It's honestly less about performance by now and more about the game becoming more prone to breaking and crashing every update.
>>714896512Wilds is what happens when Capcom learned every wrong lesson about what made World so successful
>>7148661403U on WiiU. I didn't mind underwater combat for what its worth. I went back and tried FU, and Tri i think it was? Last game I enjoyed was generations ultimate. I really don't hate Rise, but it was just kinda existing. It didn't grab me to keep playing like old style games did. Never played World and don't intend to, if its anything like nu monhun i don't want it.
Guess I'm not that big a monhun fan, I do only play it when I get the itch which is rare. I'll openly admit when monsters get stupid fast it really ruins it for me because I don't like playing guessing games when they're gonna stop being hyperretardmode.
Mid ranks are fun tho. Even being casual about it at least im not really contributing to the series downfall. I can say that at least.
>>7149014103U on WiiU is unironically a solid fucking title, if not the best one.
I really liked Monster Hunter Online but that shit being a Chinese only game really fucking blows.
It even shut down in China. Lmao what the fuck. Capcom is so shit.
Wilds was made to appeal to the Flavor of the month normies.
People who play the story and then drop the game the moment the credits roll.
But they put in so many mehanicks to make sure even the biggest retard can finish the game that these core mehanicks effectively destroyed the games balance even in the endgame.
>>714862809this amount of seething here lmao
>>714862568 (OP)They know they did, unironically. Thats why they've deployed so many damage control marketers.
>>714862568 (OP)Yes, capcom fucked up MH. Wilds runs like ass and has less content than even base World, which was also complete ass. Its also a very easy game which does it no favors in the content segment since you can speedrun every hunt. They tried to pad out content by doing some FOMO hunts like in world but there's not really that much content regardless.You also spend longer watching shitty cutscenes and doing walk and talks than you spend hunting. The game is still technically a success considering how much it sold and it'll probably always be a success in Japan which is really the important thing for Capcom.
This game just feels like it doubled down on all the worst parts of World.
>>714902362>and it'll probably always be a success in Japan which is really the important thing for Capcomlol, lmao
capcom isn't a phenomenon in japan anymore, P3rd is still the most sold MH in japan, the peak of japanese audience for MH is still a PSP game
>>71490002921 years a fucking 21 years later X is still riding in elevator.
>>714892790>removed any sort of monster trackingSo did World, monsters barely move around the map and always spawn at the same areas.
You got it wrong with your first point, dont even need to bother with the rest.
if this never happened to you, you never "hunted" monsters in monster hunter btw
worldbabies on suicide watch
>>714901189>When the game keeps getting more unstable with every updateWhat the fuck happened this time?
Give it to me straight, after DD2 do you think they will ever fix the game on pc
>>714903286sorry to break it to you anon but I doubt Capcom will buy you a new pc no matter how much you seethe and cry and piss and shit your skirt.
>>714862568 (OP)It made no sense for monhun to ever become that popular with world to being with, things are just back to normal
>>714902242Itโs pretty funny to see the good sirs running damage control
>every aspect of the game is being shit onsir only the poorfag dahlit caste not think wilds is very kino sir do not redeem worlds the wilds is very kino get excite for update sar no problem with wilds sar ok maybe performance sar i fix
>>714862809PCjeets absolutely BTFO
>>714902858>always spawn at the same areas.So the same as every MH?
>>714862568 (OP)No, the Resident Evil franchise is still selling well.
>>714883420lock downs didnt happen until late march
>anti wild thread
>there's a tendie defending rise
like clockwork
>anti-halfrice thread
>theres a snoy seething about rise
>>714900808>no the 5 polygon monsters is a bug from the game breaking because it runs so badlyWorks on my PS5
>>714904487>>714904954Time to admit you both ruined Monster Hunter and are just pointing fingers.
>>714905218seconding this
World killed MH and Wilds is the steaming shit on its grave
>>714898131Girls like blowjobs.
I'm glad I never touched a monster hunter again after one of the psp ones, you all sound miserable.
>>714878969You retard sure showed me by pussying out to using the number player from launch day.
>>714904314maybe they can capitalize on that
>Actual game is locked behind main story
>Main story is tedious, poorly-written garbage
Exact same reason the most recent FF14 expac cratered into the fucking ground
I don't know, TU2 is great for me, Steve and Lagi are my top 2 monsters and the update made possible to play at 40-60 FPS without framegen with Medium settings with a RX 7600 and a R5 5500, people probably coping are poor or don't know how to use computers.
>>714904202Nah most monsters could spawn almost anywhere given the map
>>714906650Not really, they had specific places you could memorize.
>>714906286>Iโm not a secondary because I stopped at le psp gaymes
>>714883676>at any instant.You mean in... two weeks?
>>714906547I'm still so disappointed. Of all the options they have, this is what they pick? Boring
>>714906547>frognigger defends normalfagslopmany such cases
>>714906650Nigger why do you lie so much?
All mons since oldgens had specific spawn points, mostly because shit like Plessy could not fucking enter certain map zones by design to begin with
>>714866140Tried MH1, hated it
Tried MH2, hated it
ages go by
Emulate 3rd and really enjoy it
Rise gets announced, wait on the PC release cause of 3rd nostalgia, it was Ok. Sunbreak was great tho.
Return to World campaign happens, try it. Games feel disjointed but enjoy it. Finally understand the clutch claw and cutscene complains.
>>714862568 (OP)>did capcom kill their golden goosethey literally killed their studio. my last capcom game was sf6 day one. and I'll never buy the dlc
>MH Tri ran like shit
>MHP3rd ran like shit
>MH3U ran like shit on 3DS, okay in WiiU
>MH4 ran like shit
>MH4U ran like shit
>MHGen ran like shit
>MHGU ran like shit on 3DS, okay in WiiU
>MHWorld/Iceborne ran like shit everywhere, there's still 1% drops to sub 20 FPS with 5090 and other new GPUs, on launch it was running at 40 FPS at 1080p on high in ultra high end systems and for majority of players were running at 20 FPS
>MH Rise/Sunbreak ran like shit in Switch, great on PC
>MH Wilds runs like shit
Out of 30 games there's only two titles that were getting decent framerate and niggers really expected to Wilds to run well, you niggers are delusioal, all problems with Wilds stands that players hate Monster Hunter and wish that Monster Hunter was not Monster Hunter, just check the top downloaded mods, it's all cheating mods to remove difficulty, challenge and grind. That's the problem when you try to appease the COD/Assassins Creed crowd with a game that requires brains to be played.
>b-b-but the game is easy
Yes, it is, even so, the "silent" majority is download cheats left and right to pass the game and go check the new reviews after TU2, players are complaining that Seregios and Lagiacrus are too hard and "artificial difficulty", you can't appease players that are already accostumed with the formula.
>>714865862It's still hard to believe that is real. It looks like that HUD meme picture from 2010.
>>7149074404 was 60 fps on the 3DS lol
>>714907440>lying on the internet to drown the fishcommit sudoku
>>714907712https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0sZJyCArfg
Sure buddy, whatever you believe. I have 2000+ hours in 4 and 4G combined and can say that you only reach next to 50 FPS on native 3DS on the arena, just like in Wilds, in Wilds any mid-tier GPU reaches 100+ FPS.
>>714864613>Worldfags hate rise because it's to much like the older games that they've never playedMost retarded shit ive read this month jesus christ anon
>top 3 seller on Steam
>top 1 on PSN
>top 1 on Xbox
>11 milion copies
How they killed exactly? They already got their money back, the updates are just a steady income from paypigs that pay 60+ dollars in cosmetics, next year they will announce the expansion and it will sell 3 milion copies in less than 24 hours again and three months after the launch we will have the same threads saying that Monster Hunter is dead or that lost 90+% of their playerbase, I'm so tired of this.
>>714906875Well I said most monster could given the map, which obviously exclude the most unique cases, Double nigger.
>>714862568 (OP)Wilds had like 4x the players of World, the next game is going to have more players than Wilds, so no
>>714908262thats okay. they'll continue getting death threats and worker morale will dissolve. what they gained in money is countered by what they gained in harrassment and low review scores hahahahahahahahahahaahaha
>>714877071>It's too much like world in the things that I didn't like and not enough like world in the things that I likedsuccinct
>>714864613>rise because it's to much like the older games
>>714893892>didnt sunbreak introduce a good difficultyi only ever fainted during the first time i fought primordial malzeno
ez game otherwise
>>714883420I thought it was discovered in November. People didn't even hear about it until January.
I liked rice because there was a mod that added more autism to the gunlance from a different MH I think, the GL would heat up the more you shot dealing more damage when hot but then dealing less damage if it overheats.
>>714906547I havent played a game below 120fps in 5 years. I'm not compromising and playing 45-70 fps native for a trash game like Milds.
>>714879798>re-release the same PS2 game for 20 yearsYeah that's the problem - people really liked that PS2 game and were a dedicated, loyal fanbase.
The "modern audience" is fickle and will drop your ass when someone makes a youtube video showing graphs and claiming the game is bad now.
The old audience that would normally buy the game no matter what no longer cares and the new audience is moving on to the next thing to care about for 20 minutes.
But hey, at least it sold a bunch of copies right? That's all that matters.
>>714906760no one has ever regretted NOT taking the clot vaxx for the fake coofs.
you lost faggot. accept that you were too mind, soul and body broken to resist the psy op. admit that you are a good lil golem who will go against his own self preservation at the whim of his corporate overlords.
YOU LOST FAGGOT.
>>714866140MH1, played the fuck out of a demo kiosk.
First one I actually owned was Freedom Unite on PSP though.
>>714905218i bought both rice and milds
unlike tendies i can see both pro and cons of each game, instead of shitting my diapers because i can't play one of them
>>714912253>he says while shitting himself any time people make fun of half-rice
>>714908262>Top 3 seller>Literally out of the top 100>The rest is also bullshitlol it has less players than World again after one week of the update, its a failure
>>714910378I didn't take it but the entire thing was a meme and ultimately it didn't matter whether you took it or not. You're both fearmongering fags.
>>714862568 (OP)God fucking dammit fuck this fucking piece of game, fuck capcom and fuck the chinks for making me lose money thinking Id be playing with my monster hunter addicted friends who abandoned this garbage after 10 hours
>>714908262Are you sure the next game will sell this well when everyone hates Wilds?
Wilds sold well but everyone (except /v/ schizos) loved World and Rise.
>>714865547Why are people this uneducated allowed to post their opinions online and force other people to look at them?
>>714912543>Less players than World>Barely above Rise>Next update won't happen for another 2 to 3 monthsWildbros...
>>714908262>"How they killed exactly?">ChartpostingI'm tired of this. The internet used to be a fun place where the worst thing that could happen was finding out the person you were arguing with was from germany.
>>714912790Stop buying shitty games then, retard. It was blatant even before release, thanks to the playtests.
>>714912513>calling out blatant shitpost means i'm shitting myselfbing
>>714913359>stop pointing at my shitposting! LEAVE HALFRICE ALONEsnoy
>>714912751you are a jew.
>>714892723>aiming attacks is not funit is if you use a mouse
>>714892723Lagi and Serg alone provide more challenge than anything on base world or rise.
you niggers are disingenuous as fuck, the hate boner you faggots have for capcom is weird af. specifically given the absolute concrete imperial fact that they are masters of their craft and the best developers in vidya.
>>714912918>actually next game wonโt sell well I swear I heard this cope somewhere almost a decade ago.
>>714865390Crapcum doesn't keep devs tied up to dripfeed content out for years because having people continue to play the game doesn't make them money. World sold a bajillion copies long after release just because it was a popular game with an active playerbase never mind all the cocksucking microtransactions.
>>714862795Not even iceborne released on covid dumb ape
>>714891560>with textures straight out of 2010 so that's not particularly damning for Crapcomso just like Crapcom
at least it isn't covered in vaseline and hides everything in dust.
>>714891301Can you stop thinking about children sahir?
>>714889567Rise ran like 27fps on launch the fuck man? I wouldn't even have been that mad with 30fps on my mediocre PC if it weren't for
1) it actually fluctuating between like 45 and 25 for no good reason
2) changing graphics settings having negligible affect on frame rate but severe effects on the fucked up VRAM management
Supposedly they improved the latter somewhat but having to pray that using textures that don't look like an open world PS3 game doesn't make it run out of memory and instead start loading N64 LoDs on you is not a good time.
>>714864613>>Worldfags hate rise because it's to much like the older games that they've never playedRise was poor man's GU.
>>714862568 (OP)people dont care about 1 new monster every 2 months. just make another iceborne style expansion as fast as possible
>muh optimisation
My friend with a 3070 played the game just fine
Upgrade your toaster