>be you
>video game player that has never read more than 10 books
>even worse
>be you
>video game REVIEWER who couldn't read books if they wanted to
>play a game that's written at an 8th grade level about a tired subject without any wit, charm, or intrigue
>in fact, it's just WALLS of bad fanfiction-tier writing
>video gamers who never read are STUNNED by this pile of shit
>clap for it endlessly
>omg wow I finally read something!
>the game: "i got 2 drunk and it wuz lik im a lizard sklizzard on my gizzard wizard and dat is crazy for sure"
>be me, non-retard
>"play" about an hour of this fucking crappy book
>close the game and get a refund

Now I come to /v/ to ask you: What the fuck is wrong with you morons?

what kind of books do you read?

>>714888142
No off-topic posts.
>OMG THIS WRITING IS SO GOOD, said the 95iq retard

I’m a published novelist and Disco Elysium is my favorite game ever.

>>714888204
stephen king and brandon sanderson, got it

>>714888223
No off-topic lies ITT.
>anecdotally, Einstein picked up a copy of Disco Elysium and thought it was great!
>then he handed me a crisp $200 bill and everyone applauded feverishly
No copeposting.

>>714888081 (OP)
an hour? looool

imagine reading just an hour of a book and deciding you know everything about it. I haven't even played disco elysium yet myself, it's just such a retarded argument

you think you can understand dostoevsky or middlemarch or something just by reading the first little bit of them? come the fuck on

>>714888081 (OP)
you're right OP you're so smart, a real visionary of literature
us dullards could only wish to be as wise and smart as you
not to mention so well read

>>714888081 (OP)
The game is funny with a cool setting and you’re a joyless faggot. Too bad for you, you’re incapable of enjoying one of the best games of the last decade.

>>714888315
I read Stephen King and i love Disco Elysium. Also OP is a faggot for making such a low effort bait thread.

>>714888081 (OP)
I was waiting for "pic unrelated, planescape torment thread" but I still agree
I remember criticizing the ESL writing style and just being told it's intentionally written like that for the setting

>>714888315
>I -need- to find a way to cope about this game's shit writing
How about talk about the game instead of being off-topic?
>I WAS FEELING VERY ALCOHOLIC THAT DAY
Fucking cringe

i am doing just fine without books and homosexual games

>>714888520
I am not gonna engage in a literary discussion with someone who doesn't read literature. You said you read books, for all I know those books are the very hungry caterpillar and harry potter

>>714888337
The style of the writing is obnoxious. Its fair to presume it will be the same throughout.

Also if something hasn't gripped you after an hour, fuck it, I've got better things to do. Its not up to me to make an effort to like something, its up to them to make it good enough to engage.

>>714888494
You simply cannot appreciate the fine literature of "I WUZ DRUNK. DA BOOZE FLOWED THROUGH MY VEINS LIKE A SHIP ON THE SEAS. ALCOHOL BOOZE.
THE KIND OF ALCOHOL THAT IS MADE OF BOOZE. WINE. BEER. VODKA.
ALCOHOL."
>pls give nobel literature prize
I'd give this an A+ if an 8th grader wrote it for a contest.

>>714888701
not op btw

>>714888223
I am an unpublished novelist and I only moderately enjoy Disco Elysium

>>714888679
I like to follow a concept called "Death of Every Author" where all authors are dead aside from the particular writing I am talking about.
TRY to stay on topic.
>>714888204
>>714888520
>>714888723
And -please- clap for this A+ writing
>I WUZ DRUNK
>AND THATS DEEP
But it's not. The entire game runs on the premise that "I WUZ DRUNK" is a very deep and complex topic.
It's simply not.
Your response?
>no actually drunke monkey is a big brain idea
But... it isn't.

This game made me physically grimace with cringe, dropped after 10 minutes

>>714888081 (OP)
There's some good writing and voice acting, but you have to find it beneath the mountain of text.

>>714888918
OP here same but it took me longer.
I feel that if one day someone can measure cringe in the same way as radioactivity whatever counter you hold near "Disco Elysium" will sound off with more snaps, crackles, and pops than Rice Krispies cereal.

>>714888081 (OP)
filtered midwit

>>714889038
>there's some gems in here, just in this mountain of shit
That's a shit game then.
>>714889118
It's the other way: you have to be a midwit to engage with midwit entertainment.

>>714888492
I've read Dune and I hated Disco Elysium

>>714888367
Midwits (like yourself) are in fact very happy to enjoy midwitted entertainment. They become offended when they are reminded that what they think is "for smart people" (people on their/your IQ level) is actually midwitted.
Basically you NEED to defend the material because it's a defense of your own lowIQ ego.

Got it on summer asle for £3.49, refunded it lol its gay as fuck man lmao

>>714888337
>To know the vintage and quality of a wine one need not drink the whole cask. It must be perfectly easy in half an hour to say whether a book is worth anything or worth nothing. Ten minutes are really sufficient, if one has the instinct for form. Who wants to wade through a dull volume? One tastes it, and that is quite enough-- more than enough, I should imagine.
-Oscar Wilde

>>714888223
I am an arcane novelist currently hiding in my vile tower in order for my work to never be found by any man who lacks the strength to pass through the trials I have laid forth and I HATE disco elysium

>>714889492
a cask of wine is homogenous and uniform throughout, writing is not

shit analogy, and obviously shit at that

>>714889492
>food analogy

>>714889834
>a cask of wine is homogenous and uniform throughout, writing is not
It usually is, unless your name is James Joyce.

>>714889492
>"I suck dicks and fuck poopy man butt. In a time when daily bathing wasn't normal, when people didn't bathe or wash their clothes for weeks on end. They even jailed me cause my faggotry was so intense lmao." - Oscar Wilde

>>714889834
does DE turn into a well written game after the first hour?

It gets better exactly 1 hour and i minute in guys

>>714890005
i dunno, i haven't played it

>>714888081 (OP)
unironically I think undertale has better writing than this game, its good don't get me wrong but it doesn't nearly exploit the actual medium it's in as well as ut or even dark souls for that matter

>>714889163
I've also read Dune and i still like Disco Elysium.

>>714890108
>undertale has better writing

>>714889163
I've never read Dune past the first but my mom did and she liked Disco Elysium

>>714888081 (OP)
>i read books so i can't enjoy video games
I'm so sick of this stupid bait and here I am replying anyway.

i think its "emperor's new clothes"

Some people say "omg this game so good and amazing writing its a must-play game!" so others have to play it and force themselves to keep going so they can say they did it. They have no belief in their own opinions or ability to judge things themselves so need others to tell them what is good.

I am above such buffoonery, I could tell I would not like it without even playing it for 1 second. And I have read Stephen King AND Dune. And I prefer mayonaisse on fries.

>>714888081 (OP)
People overselling the writing really soured me on this game. I'd probably have a better time if I was just told it's a neat little narrative adventure game, but I went in expecting prose on the level of andrew plotkin and adam catre. I enjoyed the gameplay fwiw but never finished it due to the writing.

>>714888081 (OP)
The message of this post is "I am so smart."
that's a pretty funny thing to want to tell a bunch of strangers, OP.

I don't know why Dune is being mentioned, but Dune pretty famously has amateurish prose. It's an ideas novel, but it's stylistically terrible, down to the retarded character names.
It's a perfect example of how genre expectations need to be factored in to judge the quality of a work though, which is the counterpoint to all these "anything in any medium not written like a novel in the Western Canon = bad" posts.

>>714888081 (OP)
The writing is ok, fun even, but I won't play it because it was written by a communist, therefore I don't give a fuck about whatever it has to say.

>>714889492
These are the same retards that claim you have to play all of Last of Us 2 to know it's trash. There is no saving them.
I drop every book I don't like within 10 pages. Never failed me before and I read A LOT more than most people. 50+ books a year. Don't pay for any though, lol

>>714891636
>Dune pretty famously has amateurish prose.
Interesting. It's been a decade since I read any Dune so it's a bit fuzzy, but I remember thinking it was very "dry". It felt more like reading a history book than a story at times.

>>714888871
>The entire game runs on the premise that "I WUZ DRUNK" is a very deep and complex topic.
You speedran the game in 1 hour?? Holy shit OP
>>714888723
Pic not related?

>>714891636
>>714892162
Thank fucking god I'm not the only one who thinks this. Everyone and their mother praises this dogshit, and I thought it was alright, but I burned out around 400 pages in because for what it did well in the "ideas" department, it just felt like shit to read. It was how I imagine an autistic person sees the world. It was very face-value and robotic. I guess that's kind of immersive, because that's how everyone in the novel is, but still. It was compelling when I first got into it, but going back to it now, it's just shit. People only praise it because sci-fi has a very low bar. It's like the Death Stranding of novels.

>>714888204
>>714888520
>>714888723
oh to play this game for the first time again

>>714888081 (OP)
OP is based and made all the brainlets seethe. Absolute scourge on the crpg genre fuck this dog shit garbage "game"

If you wanted a DE thread you can just ask you know, no reason to start silly fake arguments haha

honestly, who the fuck sits down to play a videogame with this much reading in it

>>714888520
Is this really what passes for an "intelligent" and "soulful" game? Kek

>>714892085
He seems to be only a communist because of the feeling it gives him, like modern Christians, I don’t think he can really defend communism after playing the game

just from the screencaps ITT I know it's not worth playing. someone sat down and thought it was not only acceptable to use asterisks for emphasis, but that there should be emphasized words in every other sentence

>>714888204
>>714888328
You got fucking owned, retard. Just accept it.

>>714892912
What are the actual politics of the game, though? Is it pushing some commie shit, or is it more nuanced than that? I considered playing this game, but I didn't wanna spend 50 hours reading a bunch of shit that amounted to "bread lines are good, actually"

>>714893032
Maybe I didn't get owned and you need a drink?
Giv nobelm prized

>>714888081 (OP)
You knew it was a bad game, so why did you buy it?

>>714892108
How do you know TLOU2 is trash without playing it? It’s worth playing at least for the music

>>714893059
Pretty much that all politics are retarded. I don't get the whole "it's a commie" game thing.

>>714893205
I watched a no commentary playthrough on YouTube.

>>714888081 (OP)
kek I had the same experience

the writing is pretentious but I wouldn't call it bad

>>714892917
What symbols should be used for emphasis instead?

>>714893443
>>714888520
>I'M GONNA LICK DA COUNTER I'M A DRUNKE MONKEY
>actually this isn't bad

>>714893247
>I don't get the whole "it's a commie" game thing.
pretty sure one of the devs thanked Marx at a game award
>>714893569
ideally the emphasis comes naturally with the prose, but if you want it to be obvious then use italics

>>714888081 (OP)
For the longest time I refused to play the game by the name alone. Finding out it was made by alcoholic, communist pseuds who ran their studio into the ground was just the cherry on top.

>>714889834
I agree with the writing part but a cask of wine will change quite dramatically over the course of the time it's being emptied. Even just a bottle of wine will be very a day or so after opening.
So yeah, Wilde isn't on his best form with this one - a dandy and decadent like him should know basic facts about wine and the drinking of it.

>>714888723
>>714892917
>all the drinks it's *absorbed* for you
>you have no idea who this *thing* is, do you?
>*Too* late
>is that an *expression*?
Yeah, you're right. There's absolutely no fucking reason to emphasize these words. It's just bad writing that assumes the reader is a fucking retard.

>>714893205
>How do you know TLOU2 is trash without playing it?
I watched enough on youtube. At some point the writing and the direction became so cringe that i could not even bare to watch it. Mind you this is not a roleplaying game where you can get different experience depending on your choices in every conversation. It's a linear fucking game.

>>714893443
What is it supposed to be pretentious about? IIRC it says shit like ‘a cold wind greets you’ like a hundred times, it seemed more like he wanted to describe the environment in detail leading to the big texts

>>714893205
It's very simple: If something is compared to the best of Hollywood or 'prestige' television by midwits then I know it's fucking dogshit.

>>714893657
Do you not understand the character? Not getting it strikes me as someone who has never had a thought in their life.

>>714893710
>pretty sure one of the devs thanked Marx at a game award
Yeah, one of the devs is a commie, but we're talking people having the impression that the game itself is somehow communist. I guess it might just be shitposting.

>>714889163
>Dune
Slop for midwits. The only redeemable quality about it is that it tends to keep nerds and their ilk away from the reading and discussion of serious fiction.

>>714893746
Wilde was completely BTFO by Henry James in the Portrait of a Lady. A sterile dilettante, Gilbert Osmond - that's who he essentially is.

>>714893710
The asterisks worked in the fully voiced version of the game with the funni narrator but you’re right I have no idea how that would read in the text-only original

>>714894052
>Do you not understand the character? Not getting it strikes me as someone who has never had a thought in their life.
I'M A WACKY DRUNKE MONKEY was better on Arrested Development.

>>714894012
If we have to pick that example, I can work with it. Just remember that you assigned me this position.
It would be 100x more appropriate and within the tone of the work to describe how that cold wind feels. I'm purposefully vague because there's many ways you can describe feelings. It's an extremely pretentious way of describing feeling cold wind.

Dropping a cultural/artistic object or refusing to give it a chance because you disagree with the politics of whoever made it is low-IQ behaviour.

>>714894320
Trvth nvke

>>714894285
There's a wacky drunk monke in his brain. This shouldn't be hard to get if you have thoughts in your head.

>>714892917
>>714893761
its voice acted
the emphasis is echoing the voice inflection, not the reverse of the inflection being there because of the emphasis

>>714894320
When that object is entirely based around the politics of those who made it, then I disagree.

>>714894320
People did give it a chance and it turned out to be shit. Wowie.

>pretentious
why do retards continue to say this any time they see a metaphor or polysyllable. it means nothing

>>714894386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF6rzEpULDI
See this anon? This is GOOD wacky drunke monkey writing.
Disco Elysium is BAD because it's made by people who don't know how to drink at all.

>>714894436
Holy fuck, it's meant for you bro.

>>714888142
>Let me ask what you like so I can call whatever it is trash so I can feel like I came out on top

>>714894593
>I have very low self esteem and can not handle the possibility of anonymous anime fans saying my favorite books are less than perfect

>>714894485
To wield a metaphor is to swirl an over-aged cabernet in a crystal goblet while insisting the taste reveals the melancholy of a Tuscan sunset, when a simple sip of water would have sufficed.

>>714888223
>I’m a published novelist
so youre a bad novelist

>>714894593
Well, do you hold yourself to the same standard you judge imaginary strangers by? What are your top 3 you read this year?

>>714894436
even worse. I turned off voice acting, but if it's intended then the asterisks are just superfluous

>>714894521
>Disco Elysium is BAD because it's made by people who don't know how to drink at all.
Have you never heard of Estonia?

the seething is off the charts

>>714894317
Or maybe the writer was using repetition on purpose to invite a humourous or tedious affect in the reader?
We just don't know.

P.S. in my experience, people who use the term pretentious really mean 'I don't get it' or have a general inferiority complex when it comes to whatever is being spoken about. It's the philistine's magic word, as if saying it will make the scary thing they don't understand go away. When pressed on why said thing is pretentious, they most often don't have any real argument except for 'it just is, okay?'.
Not suggesting this is the case with you or anything, just sharing something I've observed in my time.

>>714888081 (OP)
It's literally (You) who doesn't read books. Otherwise you'd know that not only DE, but a lot of games have better writing than 95% of books.
You think books have such amazing writing because you only read the biggest classics. When you're done with that best 1% of all books you will notice that most of them are shit too.
Also, if you were as intelligent as you try to appear, you wouldn't have the "I like = intelligent; I don't like = stupid" way of thinking.

>>714894447
Would you e.g. read a book by someone who you agreed with politically if that book was entirely based around their politics?
People's politics and preferences are going to slip into their work even if they're not actively or consciously attempting to do it. No human being will ever be able to write anything entirely objective, and if they could it wouldn't be worth reading except as a vaguely interesting experiment.

>>714894320
This. Artists are often bizarre people with strange beliefs and are attracted to extremes. Extremes of emotion, extreme situations, extreme lifestyles, political extremes - whatever it is, you'll find artists there.
It would be absolutely philistine behaviour to disregard W.B. Yeats poetry because he was an occultist, an outspoken Irish republican and probable hebephile, for instance.

>>714888204
>>714894593
>DE is so much worse than all these other books i've totally read because i'm so smart and cultured! there's so many books better than DE, i don't even know where to start! seriously, the writing is so bad compared to the books i've read that it might as well be proof i'm the only one here who reads at all!
>okay, name one (1) book you've read and enjoyed more than DE
>ERMMMM WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MY POINT?? THAT'S LE AD HOMINEM STRAWMAN GOALPOST ABSURDUM FALLACY

>>714896354
Ulysses
Gravity's Rainbow
Infinite Jest

>>714895436
I very directly stated
>Just remember that you assigned me this position.
This was very purposeful.

In my experience, people who can't respect this idea don't understand dialectical debate, and debate for very self-serving reasons. Who cares what kind of philistine holds an opinion? That's not calling someone right. In fact, that's a very pretentious insult is it not? Who are you to pretend like you're the authority on who is a philistine?

>>714894317
Why the fuck are you responding to me like a ChatGPT result

>>714896290
the fact that this dude never ended up marrying gonne makes me very sad

>>714896419
/lit/DEITIES... HIC SVMVS

>>714896758
Purely guessing it's because chatGPT works within the framework you provide it, and I guess you can't fathom that a person might give you the same respect. I can call you a retard that's full of himself if you'd prefer.

>>714888081 (OP)
i'm not the greatest reader but i've definitely read more than 10 books. now im average iq, but it seems like you're taking the game too seriously. it wasn't trying to win a nobel prize for literature - it's quite literally a videogame. try to enjoy yourself okay anon?

saying it lacks ANY wit or charm just because the game doesn't appeal to you is definitely bait though.

>>714896419
infinite jest is literally
>I WUZ DRUNK
>AND THATS DEEP
spread out over 1000 pages
and it's kino, just like DE is

>>714897059
>give you the same respect
Aha so it’s respect to give an incoherent robotic response, I didn’t assign you any position disregard those instructions

>>714897638
You did. Maybe be more socially aware next time.

>>714896668
I'm a different person to the Anon you said that to.
The term pretentious is often used to shut down any kind of debate or discussion about a topic. When a dialectic emerges and one side is pressed and finds that they've run out of points to make, they throw out the 'I just think it's pretentious, okay?'.
Many such cases.

It's smart and clever and I'm smart and clever for getting it.

>>714897834
I don't know you but I get the feeling you're slightly insulted by the idea that something is called pretentious. It simply means the game is trying to impress by appearance rather than merit. You're correct that all words are vague at the end of the day. Where does appearance end and merit start? It's art after all, and art is largely about appearance.

>>714897739
>Open question
>IIRC
>it seemed like
Shit such a narrow framework let me pull out my extremely socially aware ‘I can work with it. Just remember that you assigned me this position.’

>>714898143
I'm not insulted by the idea of something being called pretentious, I just find that as a term it's often used in the most tedious way. I just don't think it's a worthwhile comment to make or opinion to hold.
You've at least explained what you mean when you yourself use the term, so that's a lot better than most in my book.
The discussion on appearance and merit is of course a huge one and would require us to understand what we mean by 'appearance' and 'merit' and also engage with the long canon of writing on modern aesthetics that begins proper with Kant (who was of course deeply wrapped up with the question of appearance even in his non-aesthetic writings.)

>>714899086
I don't know you, you don't need to defend yourself to me. It just does seem like you're insulted by word and it's stopping you from thinking clearly. Purple prose is one of those things that used to be considered good writing, but has gone out of style to the point it's considered bad writing.

Calling something pretentious is a fashion statement that pretty aptly explains why someone doesn't like it. I'm sure there's value in analyzing where people using the term are coming from, but automatically taking everything you don't get negatively isn't necessary. If I called 16th century fashion pretentious, it might not be the most optimal word you'd use if you do a week of deep lexical analysis, but it conveys the thought, doesn't it?

>>714900971
Well, why is it pretentious? Because it has lots of colors, patterns and fabric? Because it's not a monochrome prison uniform?

>>714899086
It's a shit game nigga cry about it

>>714888081 (OP)
didn't read but
>commie game
>wall of text
kek

>>714888204
so harry potter then

>>714888081 (OP)
If you are so smart, learned and well-read, why do you resort to writing such a shit-tier greentext post?

I hope OP one day finds happiness.

>>714888081 (OP)
I have more than 10 books on my bedside table and I enjoyed Disco Elysium

>>714900971
I'm not defending myself, I'm just answering your questions.
I know nothing about 16th century fashion so have no concept of what would be considered pretentious to people back then.
I would say that it looks a bit ridiculous by modern standards but I wouldn't call it pretentious because who knows, maybe they were being utterly sincere in their choice of clothing.

>>714901461
Not even talking about DE at this point - I haven't even played it lmao - I'm just interested in literary/aesthetic discussions.

>>714888081 (OP)
I think DE has some merit in it's game systems. On the other hand, the writing is full of this "look at me I'm so self-aware" that was worn out in the 90s.
>>714897141
Not him, but I was reading Infinite Jest during the time period I was trying DE and why bother with DE when IJ has way better memes.

>>714903186
>I'm just answering your questions
It wasn't a question I asked, it was an observation I made to let you know how you come across. I might be an idiot in my interpretation and I'm open to that idea, but I have to see that instead of hear you say it.
>16th century fashion
When it comes to fashion, you're kind of missing the forest for the trees with that analysis. What level of information do you need before you're allowed to have an opinion?

>>714888723
>>714888871
Ironically the writing style of these posts themselves suggests severely, autistically stunted literacy.
Just pointing and going "bad" like a caveman, over and over with increasing volume, unable to even formulate an argument for why the accused game writing is somehow unfit for purpose.
>I like to follow a concept called "Death of Every Author" where all authors are dead aside from the particular writing I am talking about.
Unbelievably nuclear level, gifted kid, autistic non-sequitur. My god you must have genuinely spent your whole life thinking you're a genius while saying the stupidest shit ever. I was like this at 14

If someone likes the Lord of the Rings for the philosophical aspects of it, I'm not going to direct them to the movies. If someone likes the epic battles of the Lord of the Rings movies, I'm not going to direct them to the books. Opinions aren't inherently wrong. Judging opinions without context on the person is no different than judging the work with insufficient context.

>>714888081 (OP)
holy filtered
also stop worshipping books this hard, you never read one.

>video game
>requires you to READ
what the fuck? If I wanted to read, I would pick up a fucking BOOK

>>714904909
>uses ‘nuclear’ to make their insult seem smart
I was like this at 14

>MA REAL BOOOOOKS XD
pseud trash larp thread
DE is Planescape of new generation. Peak ADG and modern classic.

OP is a retard who fails to articulate his point, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Disco Elysium is boring and badly written.
>t. first class honours diploma in English literature, surprisingly achieved without becoming a bland champagne socialist like DE's """author"""

>>714907697
Official King of this thread.

DIsco Elisum may be a litmus test. IF you haven't read anything, you will enjoy the writing. IF you are a keen reader, you will find it sup par. Probem is it's a VIDEOGAME. Where's the game? I don't see one. I see a Pick Your Own Adventure Novel rendered in pixels before me on my screen. And a trite one at that.

>>714908638
I've read a lot and I enjoyed it.

>>714908638
I'm keen reader and I enjoy DE.

Every day I wake up and give thanks that I have not yet contracted the brain worms that keep people from being able to enjoy this game for retarded culture war reasons

>>714908719
>>714909118
Both the same person.. Both illiterate.

>>714909309
do you want a picture of my bookshelf

>>714909406
That would be off topic. You see, you are underable to find the topic. I can read faster than you. And I do. But when I want to game I want to GAME. The Writing Of Disctil Eliysum is not making up for the bad gameplay of it.

>>714909671
Getting ChatGPT to summarize novels for you isn't reading, saar.

>>714909923
This is eliysium fan

/lit/ plebs are too simple-minded for an interactive hobby

>>714909671

>>714910058
try again once your country discovers toilet paper, Ranjesh

>>714888204
what is bad about this exactly?

>game has TWENTY FOUR different skills
>if you fail a skill check you need to spend experience leveling the skill to retry it
>at several points of the story you are randomly pigeonholed into ONE specific skill check for no discernible fucking reason
>if you did the side quests before you reach that point, you can literally run out of experience and become softlocked until more days pass
Good writing but what the fuck is this shit? They were making better dialogue trees in point-and-click games 40 years ago

>>714910265
I don't think there's any way to actually get softlocked. Even Measurehead has a skillcheck-less way to get past him.

>>714907697
>lit major with no notable accomplishments seething over an author who has actually achieved success and acclaim
tale as old as time

>>714907697
how is kurvitz a champagne socialist in any way? his novel fucking bombed like crazy and he was dead broke for years killing himself with alcohol until he pitched this game and lived in squalor in a gallery developing the game initially with some small venture capital. the development was a true rags to screwed by the riches story

Sanderson has permanently ruined the fantasy genre

>>714910434
The anti-softlock is "kim does it for you if you fail 3 times". Which doesn't actually prevent the softlock, because if the skill check is locked, you can't even fail it on purpose.

>>714890930
>andrew plotkin and adam catre
You're a fag for even knowing who these are and literal billions of years of genetic lineage will end with you.

>>714910904
The Sandersonite CRETINS have come out of the woodwork to defend their indulgent drivel. I don't care about the CRABS or the PLANTS or your DUMB MAP when your characters have no spark of humanity and only exist so they can FLY AROUND AND FIGHT. Authors worthy of the name can draw real human tragedy from just 20 pages of two people talking in a room; the modern fantasy "author" can't provide a glimpse of humanity from 1000 PAGES of the most APOCALYPTIC CLASH of GOOD AND EVIL. I recently attempted to get through book one of Sanderson's "epic" Stormlight saga, and was FLOORED when he had to represent how characters feel by MAGICAL EMOTION FAIRIES because he was UNABLE to convey it through BELIEVABLE DIALOGUE. THIS IS THE MAN WHO HAS THE MOST POPULAR LECTURE ON WRITING ON YOUTUBE. It is no wonder that today's young fantasy writers think CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT is synonymous with "LEVELING UP". World-building represents the D&Dification of the Fantasy genre. The focus foremost on setting rather than character, prose, plot, or theme, can only be explained by the influx of AUTISTIC sons of 35 year old mothers who cannot understand or conceptualize human emotions or relations, and can't write for shit. BRANDON SANDERSON has destroyed an entire generation of writers, along with VIDEO GAMES, ANIME and AUTISM. It should be no surprise that the current trend in the genre are so-called "LitRPGs"--a derivative of ISEKAI, D&D, and VIDEO GAMES, because these stunted shut-ins have no exposure to the world beyond the mediated glow of their computer screens and the musky back rooms of tabletop gaming centers. MAGIC SYSTEMS are the product of STEM AUTISM and are completely irrelevant to anything that makes a story worth reading. The entire genre has become one big MALADAPTIVE DAYDREAM. The only solace is that fantasy is falling into such disrepute that it can safely be consigned to the same bin as YA fiction and romance slop.

>>714911474
That's not what 'softlock' means, anon

>>714893205
I don’t, but since I get 99.9% of my video game news from /v/ (and since I barely care about the TLoU franchise to begin with), I went ahead and filed it away under “games I have no interest in hearing anything about anymore”.

>>714910079
/lit/ has the worst users on this site without a doubt

>>714911474
which check is that?

>>714911540
lil bro talking like homestuck narration

>>714888081 (OP)
it was fun and charming i loved it

>>714908638
It's a graphic adventure role-playing game.

>>714907697
>>t. first class honours diploma in English literature
imagine posting this like it gives you any sort of credibility

If it's so bad why aren't people filling the thread with gamers better written? Really makes me ponder.

>>714912349
I would sooner expect /v/ posters to have read a book before I would expect them to have played a video game

>>714912428
we got it anon, you're a pseud.

I wish there were more games like this. I tried playing Age of Decadence and got filtered by how fucking ugly it is

>>714889274
You need to attack the material because it's the only way to save your ego because you're a mega retard

>>714912349
i honestly think it's bad to use videogames as a medium to have people read your novel
it could be a great book but you can't tell me that's a videogame

>>714888081 (OP)
Wait until you see the clones start popping up.

>OH MAN MY GAME IS GONNA BE AS GOOD AS DISCO ELYSIUM, MAYBE BETTER, BECAUSE UUHH, WE HAVE EVEN MORE INNER VOICES AND CHARACTERS TO INTERACT WITH!

No. I did not play this stupid fucking 30 hour long game, and I will not play your fucking retarded 60 hour long game.

This game really suffers from millenial cringe writing and the "no one actually talks like this" syndrome

I got the game on the sale.

And it's good so far, I been craving a good point and click game, with some RPG elements.

Also fuck Cuno.

>>714912349
Decade.

>>714912725
>game has been out for 8 years
>JUST WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE THE CLONES START POPPING UP
the only "clone" on the horizon is Alexis Kennedy's next game, and people already suffer through the gameplay of those solely for the writing

>>714912725
WHERE ARE THE CLONES? WHERE ARE THEY?

I've been WAITING for DE inspired games since it fucking came out, and I've gotten nothing!

>>714910904
Sanderson is peak kino.
>he wrote Veins of Gold part in WoT
>it's good people thought it was written by Jordan himself

>>714888081 (OP)
The problem here isn't that you can only see how truly poor the writing in this game is because "you read better books", the problem here is that regular books are written efficiently with an editor, GOOD classic novels are written in mind to cut the fat out and present the author's ideas concisively and to always present the viewer with a fraction of his mind, when you read something like Tolstoy or Mann, you're being shared a sincere, unfiltered half of the author's mind, and the whole point of reading a book is, besides the content itself, to dig inbetween the lines and uncover the author's philosophies and historical streams and threads that led him to write what he wrote, to discover what feels autobiographical vs. what isn't.

Disco Elysium has none of that. It's standard Adventure fare with shallow themes and predictable tropes and clichés but told in an obnoxiously bloated over-descriptive method in which there is no room for subtext or depth in the story because you're just being fed an entire scene with no room for interpretation, and zoom zoomies LOVE that because they don't understand subtlety, they can't read inbetween the lines and they most definitely lack taste/critical judging skills, so of course they relish at the video game that spends 15 minutes describing a rotting corpse, from appearance to scent, with little interactive prompts to keep your character from vomiting. There is no literary value to gain from wasting time on this when there are so many Better actual novels of the same genre, I'd probably try to beat the game because I do find the choices and puzzles and investigation fun, but MAN, 30 minutes for every single dialog encounter is HARROWING. my time is better spent elsewhere.

I read Ivanhoe and I like Disco Elysium

>>714912957
8 years? I thought it came out in like, 2023.

Why wasn't it relevant before?

>>714912567
Just play c*dex GOTY. Scald

>>714913447
Jordan was a complete hack himself so I completely believe Sanderson is good enough to imitate him.

>>714913693
>Jordan was a complete hack himself
Now you're my enemy.

>>714913618
I was mistaken, it's actually six years old. It's been pretty well-discussed in that time

>>714910458
He’s not seething, it’s the only rational reply to this OP in the thread and anyone ignoring the thread and still saying ‘good writing’ is in denial

>Go to ungoverned and unpoliced part of town on the run from corrupt government officials.
>Stay at penthouse of hotel for months (have loads of money apparently).
>Hang out with mercenary that harasses other women, brags about his atrocities and is always dressed in armor.
>When he is killed by a bullet from an unknown killer, do not leave the hotel and flee but keep living at the crime scene.
>Fortunately no one calls the police around here because of local vigilantes, so you won’t be part of a crime investigation that will reveal your location to the corrupt government officials who want to kill you.
>Still ask local vigilantes to divert the attention to them, just to be sure.
>They will agree with it because anyone who comes to their district is desperate and deserves protection (even when they can afford a luxurious penthouse for months).
>With their help, stage a lynching by the vigilantes to divert any attention away from you, but still make yourself the motive of the lynching.
>Call the police.
>When the police come to question you, lie to them and also say the vigilantes are lying about the lynching.
>When the vigilantes tell the police what really happened, go along with this story and thus become a witness in the investigation.
>Tell them that you’re on the run from corruption and won’t lie anymore. Ask them not to take you in or register your name.
>Still lie about a verifiable fact (who came up with the lynching)

>"DUDE THE STORY IS SO DEEP AND THOUGHT PROVOKING"
>it's just babby's first robot story

>>714914173
Don't see contradiction.
Pseuds lost.

>>714889492
oscar wilde was a fag

>>714914173
>filtered

>>714914167
>In addition, lie that your name, that is on the fake passport that you used to get here, is your real name. But also tell them where you hid your fake passport. When the officers are off to retrieve the fake passport, upon which they will see that your supposedly real name is actually a fake name in your fake passport, stay where you are and don’t flee yet.
>When they come back, learn that the fake passport was no longer in the place where you hid it. It disappeared unbeknownst to you.
>When the officers are gone again, about to find out that other verifiable fact any moment now, have a look at the crime scene again and mark the direction from where you think the bullet came.
>Leave the hotel and flee to another city. Your plan is now fulfilled.

>>714914167
A woman acting irrationally and lying about a verifiable fact?

>>714914167
>>714914242

>>714913046
You'd be very disappointed at who's making a DE-like now.

>>714888081 (OP)
Ive read hundreds of books and I like Disco Elysium. There's nothing extremely avant garde or interesting about the writing but for storytelling in a video game and atmosphere its 10/10. It's like some weird, sardonic mix of Confederacy of Dunces and Pessoa's Book of Disquiet made into a cop thriller. I like that. It's not some kind artistic masterpiece that shifts public consciousness , sure, but for a video game it's really well made

>>714915343
>Confederacy of Dunces
Name 1 time the main character sells hot dogs or masturbates.

>>714914167
>Most of the problems happened because of a woman having a woman moment
Sounds pretty believable

>>714914167
Anon, Klaasje slept with all of them and is an unstable former corporate spy with a violent background AND a drug addict who is slumming it up in Martinaise to run from her past, the fact you can understand that she is acting irrationally but not understand how is hilarious. The local militia is an incompetent group of drunks, Martinaise itself is a bombed out shit hole run by a corrupt pseudo socialist government who all hate cops.

Holy mother of filtered, and Agatha Christie novel would go over your head

>>714915469
Harry did far worse during his Tequila Sunset era topkek, I was nore talking about how every character is a ridiculous caricature of a given society and the main character is a loveable fuckup

>>714915343
for a visual novel it's well made*
for a video game it's boring trash

>>714914536
>>714914612
>>714915530
The game had women writers, unless your argument is ‘it was accidentally good writing’, this doesn’t fly of course. If the clue to your detective RPG is: wahmen so we don’t have to write coherently, then…
[I actually would say bravo for wasting my time if they’d own up to it]

>>714912794
Cuno is based, I blew his mind by seamlessly digging a bullet out of a man and promising I would do the same for him one day

Also holy shit Cunoess is a psycho, I completely missed that my first playthrough but just recently replaced it focusing more on a social build

>>714915865
>Point and click adventure games are no longer le video games
Grim Fandango btfo

>>714914167
>I'm not seething
>I'm just a pseud making vapid "that's not the most logical course of action!" narrative critiques

>>714915867
>The game had women writers
And both American Psycho and Triumph of the Will were directed by women. If you think about it, Disco Elysium is like the Triumph of the Will of video games in that sense. It's good despite the women involved

>>714890108
Undertale's writing hinges on that one 4th wall break where Asgore breaks one of your UI icons so you can't choose mercy anymore. It's kino sure but the rest of the game is just typical RPG stuff. I like Disco Elysium because of the variety of builds and choices and how every little thing no matter how inconsequential has multiple branching paths with options for passed and failed skill checks with all your stats.

>>714888081 (OP)
You claim to be smart and well-read and this is the best argument you can make?

>>714910079
I fail to understand how that's my problem

>>714915648
>Klaasje slept with all of them
Yes heavily alluded, didn’t go over my head, seems unrelated?
>unstable former corporate spy with a violent background
Violent background? The spy part should speak in favor of her scheming skills, not against it
>drug addict who is slumming it up in Martinaise to run from her past
We never see her on drugs, she does most of the greentext sober
>The local militia is an incompetent group of drunks
So incompetent that the leader would make a good cop as stated multiple times
>Martinaise itself is a bombed out shit hole run by a corrupt pseudo socialist government who all hate cops.
Seems unrelated?

Cock carousel

>>714916738
>seems unrelated?
As to why the local vigilante group would go so far for someone they barely know? Are you sure about that?
>Violent background?
If you pass Physical Instrument or Hand Eye Coordination checks you can get insight that she has both the build and scars of someone who has fought with their hands a lot and she has a lot of insider political info. She's implied to be a moral intern spy imbedding herself into the local socialist scene, but on top of that she clearly is just fucked in the head as well. She's manipulating and lying her entire time about her intentions
>We never see her on drugs, she does most of the greentext sober
You can find drugs in her apartment and the militia can attest to getting drunk and doing a ton of drugs with her as well.
>Seems unrelated
As to why nobody would report the body or do anything with cops? Do you know how inner cities work my guy?

>>714916079
I see you have trouble with logical critiques, so let’s narrow it down: my critique is not “that's not the most logical course of action”, it’s that it is the least logical course of action, actually no logical course of action. Only at that point does something become a plothole I believe: I’m not some pseud that grasps at nitpicks, Marvel movies have less plotholes (I rarely can discover one)

I thought the game was just kind of boring, honestly.

>>714915865
>>714915970
It's not a visual novel or a point and click. It's actually the only modern example of a pure RPG.

>>714915898
I failed the big check and was thinking about reloading right before Cuno was sayin he wants to tag along and it was like "I HAVE to see where this goes." Cuno's a homie. BIG homie. Fills those homie shoes.

>>714917182
These ‘this was implied’ arguments aren’t very good without the dialogue itself. Here I have one for you I remember: you can ask the leader why he helps Klaasje, then your skills will tell you he’s telling the truth about not doing it because they fuck but for the reason I mention in the greentext about them agreeing with it
>You can find drugs in her apartment and the militia can attest to getting drunk and doing a ton of drugs with her as well.
Yes, obviously, it also played a role in the mercenary getting killed. Doesn’t change anything about what you just responded to
>As to why nobody would report the body or do anything with cops? Do you know how inner cities work my guy?
Yes, that’s the point of that part of the greentext. Nobody is going to report the body but she STILL sets up this whole ‘detective plot’ scenario for the game, it’s one of the many flaws

>>714918302
>Nobody is going to report the body but she STILL sets up this whole ‘detective plot’ scenario for the game
Yeah because she was breaking under the weight of her mission and caught feelings for the mercenary , autism lmao. She felt like *someone* had to something and he didn't deserve this

>>714888081 (OP)
Disco Elysium is badly written but it has ambiguity about answering any questions with a definitive answer and that makes dimwits think it's automatically well written.

>>714918302
>you can ask the leader why he helps Klaasje, then your skills will tell you he’s telling the truth about not doing it because they fuck but for the reason I mention in the greentext about them agreeing with it
He caught feelings for her while having sex and has a general sense of duty to the public hence him being some pseudo cop in a militia. Both can be true
>Doesn’t change anything about what you just responded to
Finding drugs in the apartment of known druggie, who sel admits to taking drugs and has eyewitnesses to her drug use isn't evidence of her taking drugs? Do you need a piss test? Maybe she stopped using after her lover died while she was on a bender?

>>714920486
what questions does it leave ambiguous

and don't just say "all of them," be specific

>>714920486
>Disco Elysium is badly written
Disco Elysium's writing is good, and you can't quantify how it's bad.

>>714906836

Some of us played games in the 90s when every RPG or Adventure game was like reading at least one full novel.

>>714920406
There is no mission, she is on the run
>*someone* had to something
Sure he didn’t deserve it, that’s why she asked for his body be hung up and rot in the sun for days while nobody was going to report the body anyways
>>714920840
>Both can be true
No, if they didn’t fuck he still would have done it, is what the game states. Thus them fucking was no factor
>Do you need a piss test?
No, like I said there obviously was drugs but not during the game itself, when the detective plot takes place: it’s not an excuse
>>714914167
>>714921009

>>714888204
I've never played this but it looks like typical "point and click adventure" style dialogue tree comedy. Why are you taking it so seriously?

>>714921607
even full text infocom games were the equivalent of <30 pages

>>714921803
>There is no mission, she is on the run
Except there's evidence pointing to her being a moral intern spy, and even if she was just trying to find a new home she was spiralling out of control on drugs for either motivation. She was losing it, she caught feelings for someone who got murdered by some communist incel - a guy she related with due to both of them having a pretty checkered and violent past finding solace in each other for a few nights

>If they didn't fuck he still would've done it
Yeah, but he went the extra mile for her. You can have two motivations for the same thing lol
>No, like I said there obviously was drugs but not during the game itself, when the detective plot takes place: it’s not an excuse
It's not an excuse to act irrationally while on or coming off a bender? You ever been around addicts?

>>714896419
I read Ulysses and sweet hell do I hate that mick. Ulysses is just a constant tirade of literary references with no real purpose all crammed in run on sentences that go on for an page. "Stream of Conciousness" They say. I say someone should have streamed Joyce's consciousness over the wall, the fucking Cuckold

Infinite Jest was alright but the Jest is absolutely that this Dickhead author made you read hundreds of pages just to reach one insightful and clever sentence or paragraph just to dive back into hours of tedium.

>>714921803
Also again, your "quantifying of how the writing is bad" is just you not understanding character motivations lmao

>>714888081 (OP)
This game is fucking boring, but retards here praise it like it's some sort of master piece. I got to the part where you put the corpse of the hanged man inside an ice cream fridge and got bored of it.

>>714922307
I liked Dubliners more than Ulysses honestly, not that I think Ulysses is a bad book but the constant esoteric allusions in it are pretty annoying

I liked Disco Elysium, found it mostly boring with a few nicely written scenes. A lot of the thought internalization stuff has nice writing. Due to the nature of the game it is heaviy front-loaded with terrible quirky humor in the tutorial. Good memorable characters and perfect execution of the atmosphere

>>714922984
Seconding Dubliners, it's the only thing I've read by him but it was pretty good. Not esoteric either, just some good stories

>>714922287
>Except there's evidence pointing to her being a moral intern spy
Would gladly see the evidence, would make this ‘detective’ plot even sillier
>he went the extra mile for her
Sure you’re arguing the theory that he went the extra mile in… carrying a body an knotting it to a rope on a tree. Such a huge decisive factor that I missed in the greentext
>act irrationally while on or coming off a bender
She communicated perfectly rationally, neither Kim nor your skills nor herself talk about this, it’s simply not in the game.

>>714894242
Henry James is a verbose giga autist and I love him for it

>>714923613
>Sure you’re arguing the theory that he went the extra mile in… carrying a body an knotting it to a rope on a tree
... Trying to take the fall for a murder is a big ask , anon. I don't know what 3rd world shithole you're from but most people would think that was a big deal

>Would gladly like to see the evidence
Mostly all the insider political knowledge she has while allegedly just being a corporate spy, most of which pertains to matters that concern the moral intern and with Klaasje suddenly inserting herself into a Martinaise militia connected with a local Union ... come on anon you're not that stupid surely?
>she communicated perfectly rationally
Yeah because she came off the bender already you hyper autist lmao. While she was making those decisions she was under the influence.

>>714888081 (OP)

>>714924171
>Trying to take the fall for a murder
Oh, that’s what you meant he went the extra mile in! Well then your theory indeed clearly shows how he did that by… not sticking to the story
>come on anon you're not that stupid surely?
Fucking kek, sure and after that the spy called the cops (which also enact the will of the Moralintern), confusingly lied about her passport which she sent the cops to find and wasn’t there, then helped them with the investigation!
>While she was making those decisions she was under the influence.
Oh so she only was conveniently under influence in the first few moronic decisions of the greentext, good thing there’s a lot more of them that took place in-game. She also conveniently gave other reasons for those decisions than drug use, while still freely talking about her drug use

>>714888081 (OP)
>tired subject
what the fuck do you even mean by that? What is this pseud faggotry?
just because a game has words in it doesn't mean anyone thinks they're smart for playing it, good job projecting your own insecurities

>>714888081 (OP)
>>"play" about an hour of this fucking crappy book
>>close the game and get a refund
So you didn't even play it. Nice reading comprehension.

>>714925414
>by… not sticking to the story
He did until Klaasje ratted
>Fucking kek, sure and after that the spy called the cops (which also enact the will of the Moralintern),
The cops are divided on the matter and not trusted
>confusingly lied about her passport which she sent the cops to find and wasn’t there
It was, lmao shows how much you pay attention
>then helped them with the investigation
Out of grief for her dead lover

You're too autistic to understand human emotions , take the L

>>714923527
>>714922307

Dubliners was great and so was Portrait. Either of you tackle Finnegan’s Wake? That shit is way too post modern for me

>>714925908
won't even pretend like I'm able to parse page 1
also be careful with that apostrophe if you venture into /lit/

>>714925908
Nah, I tried but it's just too dense and the weird pseudo English was too much to follow

>>714925908
I'll give Joyce's work a pass on the fact that it can be fun to read out loud, not for the sake of it being beautiful but because it's ridiculous. If I drink some whisky and speed read it's a gay old time. But I I actually try to digest his work and the exact meaning of whatever it is he's vomited out onto the page then it's incredibly exhausting

>>714925841
>He did until Klaasje ratted
Shows him not going the extra mile after all
>The cops are divided on the matter and not trusted
Oh sho the cops are the real bad guys now? Strange that she calls them, also begs them not to take her in, and the game telling you in a skill check at the end of the game that she’s fucked if you have taken her in
>It was, lmao shows how much you pay attention
It wasn’t, watch the mission again, talking about L’s anon come on
>Out of grief for her dead lover
What a great spy-plot, she could have been a bit more efficient for her lover though instead of whatever this was

>>714926253
>>714926409
Thanks for the replies, dudes. I lurk 99.9% of the time feels nice to interact with not-assholes. I’m probably in the wrong place. Recommend me some books? I’ve exhausted Russian lit

Why are red and yellow skills so useless?

>>714927081
I'm reading Aldous Huxley's Island right now, kind of a noblebright reverse of Brave New World.

>>714927360
Oh shit sounds cool thanks. I just finished Nobokov’s autobiography Speak, Memory. Kind of a bore, honestly

>>714889681
Based arcane novelist.

>>714927081
>exhausted Russian lit
this likely isn't the case. who have you read?

>>714907697
>>t. first class honours diploma in English literature
Top tier stuff mate, imagine believing authority means anything here.

>>714929170
>with honors

>>714926253
I want to try to read Finnegans Wake now, that's amazing. I won't be able to but the experience will be funny.

We have this thread every day

>>714927081
Non fiction: Influence by Robert Chialdini, Power of the Powerless by Vaclav Havel

Fiction: On the Marble Cliffs by Ernst Jünger
Suttree by Cormac McCarthy

>>714927185
Savoire Faire and Physical Instrument are second to only Authority in being able to get away with the dumbest bullshit in the game. Being able to sucker lunch or spin kick Measure head to a KO will never not be funny

>>714932237
You can read it, it just takes some focus and patience. Its an extremely experimental kind of writing that's supposed to reflect in your subconscious, there's no "incorrect" way to read it really

>>714927185
Shivers is pvre kino
Savoir Faire leads to one of the funniest checks in the game

This is not considered a "game".

>>714888081 (OP)
>"play" about an hour of this fucking crappy book
>close the game and get a refund
You're a luckier man than me OP. I played the game for a few hours thinking it would pick up eventually and it never did and since I passed the two hours threshold Steam won't let me refund it.

>>714888081 (OP)
>Lead developer praises Karl Marx
>Immediately ignore the game.

>>714937132
When I buy a game on Steam, I immediately open the timer app on my phone, and as soon as I click "launch", I start the timer.
If I'm still in the tutorial 90 minutes in: refund.
If the game has asked me to do more reading than playing: refund.
If the game is sold to me as a "highIQ" experience and it's for idiots, refund.

Simple as.

>>714888204
>"i am the law"
Man, interjecting that randomly into conversations with people always cracked me up.

>>714927185
>perception
>useless
Pick one.

>>714893059
It loves communism the most and shits aggressively on anything that isn't communism. Fascists are contemptable but pity-worthy, ultraliberals are a bad coping mechanism, liberals are THE ARCHENEMY, THE HATED FOE, and communists are at worst misled.

>>714888204
To play this game with cheats might be funny as hell.

>>714938527
>cheats
What do you mean?

>>714893059
the political stance seems to be
>communism and fascism/nationalism are spooks that will ruin your life and drive you insane
>ultraliberalism (corporatism) will also drive you insane but you'll have a lot of money so you'll be able to pretend it didn't
>centrists are tools of the all-powerful ur-state that will grind down all deviation or resistance to rubble

>>714938312
>It loves communism the most and shits aggressively on anything that isn't communism
It outright portrays communists as being violent , retarded morons. The main enemy of the game is a communist incel who is even more stuck in the past than the fascists

>>714938898
It portrays communists as MISGUIDED IDEALISTS as compared to the knuckle-dragging fascists, the coping ultras, or the dagger wielding sabre-toothed moralists.

>>714939153
Sounds about right, desu. Those descriptions seem to align with the way these ideologies manifest themselves in the real world.

>>714938583
Maxed stats/skills, easy checks. I mean... "You own me money.", then reply "you're under arrest". Like... Wtf.

The outcome is probably funny.

>>714939153
It portrays communists as mass murderers with no real ideals besides murder

People recommended The City and the City in the same vein as DE, it had a really interesting setting with the split cities and extreme social conditioning, and it seemed like a clear inspiration for DE though I think a dev denied it. I didn't really care for how the mystery was resolved though. Anyone else read it?

>>714939565
Harry's fucking joke communism is not how communism is portrayed.
>>714939224
And MISGUIDED ISEALISTS is the most kind any ideology is portrayed. The communist vision-qiest ends with everyone getting all teary-eyed and stating that really, communism is just the dream of a better tomorrow. Meanwhile ultras get shit on, fascists get called delusional, and moralists get black-bagged for knowing too much.

>racist lorry driver laughs his ass off when you show him the mug
Man after me own heart.

>>714888081 (OP)
>be me, non-retard

>>714939834
Again, all of that sounds pretty much on-point. I went the ultraliberal route and don't remember it getting shit on. Then again, I consider myself to be something of a centrist in nature and so I don't get butthurt when videogames make my political views look bad.

>>714888081 (OP)
I don't get it. What does college level writing look like? The same metaphors but with a bigger thesaurus?

>>714940201
lots of em dashes since it's all written with ChatGPT

>>714940201
something easier than dickens
https://muse.jhu.edu/pub/1/article/922346

Man I wish there were more games like this. I love skillcheck simulators. Any recs? Already tried Roadwarden, Age of Decadence and The Council

>I WUZ DRUNK
>THE DAY MY MOM
>GOT OUT OF PRISON
I have written the perfect country and western song and enjoyed Disco Elysium

>>714932237
I always chose to think of Finnegans Wake as Lewis Carroll on steroids. So it could be a genuinely fun experience.

’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

“Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!”

He took his vorpal sword in hand;
Long time the manxome foe he sought—
So rested he by the Tumtum tree
And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

“And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!”
He chortled in his joy.

’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

>>714940324
the rest makes sense but genuinely what the fuck does
>Michaelmas term lately over
mean

>>714888081 (OP)
Interesting claim. Post your Ph.D thesis, I'd like to review it. The abstract will suffice.

>>714939153
>MISGUIDED IDEALISTS
No, literally retarded murderers. Becoming a communist gives you a -2 to visual calculus you're literally too fucking stupid to see the consequences of you actions

>>714939834
Harrys joke communism is more in line with actual communism than the main antagonists. Communism being a retarded purity spiral fest for coping morons is 100% true to real life

>>714940870
Thesis: Anon is a cockmongler, a genuine faggot , one of the gayest retards that ever existed.

>>714911540
Based copypasta
>>714912349
Notice how they also don't offer any actual criticisms either, they just beg the question. OP claims the game is about a tired subject, but is too set forth what he believes the game is actually about. You see that a lot with shitposters, they offer endless "criticisms" that are so vague and baseless they are impossible to respond to, because they are not interested in discussion, as they are too cowardly to open their own viewpoints to criticism. They just want to use this board as a public toilet.
>But le 4chins is 4 epic shitposting!
There's a difference between being vulgar or rude and being vague to a retarded degree.

>>714940870
ABSTRACT

I am a wurm. A goddamned wurm. Festering, rooting-- always eating picking the peanuts out of my shit for seconds. It's only when I am forced to be in the mortifying presence of the "other" that I halt the disgusting rituals and make any sort of attempt to become a presentable worm. The kind that looks like it can be competent, like it does good and means well. That's the kind of worm they want. That's the kind of worm I can look like.

>>714941191
*Too cowardly to set forth
Minor writing mistake, I must commit seppuku

>>714940594
No clue, but I assume it's some religious period people used to observe, based on the similarity to Christmas, probably in relation to the angel Michael. So just some archaic means of stating what time of year it is.
Maybe.
I really don't know.

>>714889492
Based Oscar Wilde. If it doesn't have a compelling hook early on, it deserves to be dropped.

>>714888142
Not OP but I only read mecha manga

I just like drunk fuck ups as I am a fuck up who is drunk

>>714941443
Sometimes the payoff can be worth it. But only sometimes. I've decided that, more often than not, it's never worth reaching that point if the media in question has grown into an utter chore.

>t. began listening to an audiobook of The Tale of Genji like two years ago and finally dropped it after it became evident that part 2 was a total fucking waste of time
I feel bad for the guy who translated that shit, but at least he got paid for it.

>>714917279
Of course you watch marvel movies lmao

>>714888204
Yeah this is just a case of you not liking thing and, in very typical 4chan fashion, becoming enraged when you realize there are other people who don't share your opinion.

>>714939276
>The outcome is probably funny.
All of the outcomes are pre-destined. You can't "hack" a book.

>>714911540
this would be a much better copypasta without the random capitalization

>>714913792
who was the character on the right, I forgot

>>714888081 (OP)
Genuine question, Anon. How far did you make it into the game?

>>714940594
Michaelmas is a Christian holiday. The Brits apparently used to use it for their school calendars ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarter_days ), and there's no real way of knowing that without prior knowledge of britcuck culture, but even without that you can figure out from context that he's saying "the Michaelmas school term had recently ended".

>>714940324
Man, that was a depressing read. It's also depressing to think I'm a lot smarter than an English major even though I don't think I'm very smart.

>>714920853
What is the takeway of the story?

>>714947936
Persevere and you'll find hope.

>>714948314
You are aware this means nothing, right? Super mario bros and pacman have that level of writing.
Disco Overratysium has no actual takeway.
Because it's badly written.

>>714948725 (me)
Oh and btw super mario bros and pacman executed it way better. That's way the games are loved to this day.

>>714941881
You got blown out so now you’re searching through my other posts? Go outside to a cinema with people sometimes anon

>>714941191
>Notice how they also don't offer any actual criticisms either
>they are too cowardly to open their own viewpoints to criticism
>>714914167
>>714914242
Hmmm

>>714889163
I've read Dune and thought it was gay.

>>714888081 (OP)
>not a game

>>714889997
You take that back or I'll fuck the farts out of you!

>>714959338
Once upon a time and a very good time it was there was a moocow coming down along the road and this moocow that was coming down along the road met a nicens little boy named baby tuckoo....

His father told him that story: his father looked at him through a glass: he had a hairy face.

He was baby tuckoo. The moocow came down the road where Betty Byrne lived: she sold lemon platt.

O, the wild rose blossoms
On the little green place.

He sang that song. That was his song.

O, the green wothe botheth.

When you wet the bed, first it is warm then it gets cold. His mother put on the oilsheet. That had the queer smell.