Thread 714940230

furshit aside, was it good? I want a new zelda game to play, it's either this or darksiders

>>714940230 (OP)
Eh. It's alright, but nothing I'd ever play again.

its okay. i only played the intro for the blue vixen

the furshit is the only reason this one kinda endures

6 or 7/10 depending on how much you like StarFox. Probably lower now, haven't played it in like 20 years.

>>714940230 (OP)
Its a very mediocre Zelda clone
Would have been better if the combat was as fast as the N64 Zeldas
I guess the puzzles were decent
Music was great
World design was also good
Krystal's tummy and ass were excellent

>>714941274
>Krystal's tummy and ass were excellent
the real crime is not letting you look at that for most of the game

>>714940230 (OP)
It's alright. Honestly I feel like it would have been better of if it weren't a star fox game and just kept the original plot and characters. It would have felt a little fresher. Miyamoto fumbled the bag pushing that one.

>>714941324
You're right
Minus one point from my original score

>>714941368
The 2 minute Arwing sections were some of the best parts of the game though.

>>714941972
no the fuck they weren't are you high?
or just extremely auts?

>>714942150
I guess you prefer sliding block puzzles and shooting colored spots on the wall.

>>714940230 (OP)
>it's either this or darksiders
Play Darksiders and then reward yourself with a good Krystal fap sesh whenever you hit an important milestone.

>>714941368
Maybe Nintendo didn't want to help Rare develop a new ip because they were already planning on selling their shares to Microsoft. Pretty crafty if that was the case

>>714942548
if they had a new IP they'd be more valuable, wouldn't they?
unless the sales went bad I guess.

>>714940230 (OP)
Like the other anons in thread said it's like a 6 or 7 out of 10. The atmosphere, graphics, and soundtrack do a lot of heavy lifting. Probably would have been better without the StarFox branding, but then you might have gotten cartoonier graphics like in the beta, so maybe even that wouldn't have helped. Not a bad game if you like to fuck around going ooh and aah at the world but it's style over substance.

>>714940230 (OP)
I loved it but I played it as a child so maybe my judgement is biased, was also my first Star Fox game so I didn't really have anything to compare it to, probably for the best, as most people complained that is was just "not Star Fox"

I need it to come out on Gamecube NSO to finally give it a replay.

>>714942393
t. Arlo

>>714940230 (OP)
I liked it enough when I was 13, the music and graphics (at the time) hard carried the game. Much of the game is very forgettable, and at times very tedious. Some cool boss and character designa here and there, braindead combat though. I think your time would be better spent on Darksiders, but you might get more mileage from SFA if you are interested in the StarFox franchise or just seeing the last Rare console game on a Nintendo system.

>>714940230 (OP)
It’s fine. It’s got some cool ideas but the feel of "Man, this game got FUCKED in development" surrounds the entire thing. It’s hard to describe, it’s mostly little things, like mechanics that you’d think would matter more but don’t end up going anywhere (like your buddy Tricky learns how to breathe fire at early on and you think "Oh ok, I bet he’s gonna learn a couple of more skills over the game" but… no, it was just that one skill and never again) and by the end the game feels like it’s desperate to get it over with but there’s very little about it that’s out and out terrible. You could do worse but really you should do Darksiders first if you haven’t.
>>714942769
> braindead combat though
Absolutely true but that one staff move where he spins to hit the enemy a bunch of time was always really satisfying to use

>>714942890
>that one staff move
Hear hear.
Oh another satisfying bit I remember, were the arwing segments having a good remix of the Meteo music. That's my jam.

>>714942890
Yes, there's no massive flaws to point out but it all comes off as rushed and half-baked.

>>714941368
>>714942548
>>714942619
IIRC it was actually mostly Rare’s decision to use the Star Fox IP after it was offered because 1) "Hey, it worked out pretty well when they gave us Donkey Kong" and 2) "Nintendo’s gonna buy us any day now anyway. They’re definitely not going to let us be bought by a different company after we brought them so much success so we might as well get used to working on some more Nintendo IPs"

>>714940230 (OP)
it was okay

>>714940230 (OP)
It was good and if you like Zelda-like games, you should check it out.

In fact, Star Fox as a brand might have had more lasting power if Nintendo had more fully embraced having a series of Zelda-likes, because the mainline Star Fox games were gimmick rail shooters selling themselves on the novelty of being games that were just like the ones you find in arcade cabinets. The mainline Star Fox series's days were numbered when the novelty and appeal of having "an arcade cabinet in your home" began to wear off.

>>714943494
I had to have my dad beat this for me

>>714940230 (OP)
Dinosaur Planet had more soul but the reason for the change is a lot less cynical and malicious than one would think

>>714943494
LightFoot village is where the game peaked. The music, the challenges, the whole mysterious vibe it has going. If there is one actual amazing thing in StarFox Adventures it's LightFoot Village.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biki64EU7lc

Krystal Ball

Great soundtrack and colorful setting. Combat feels great but is kinda dull and repetitive maybe ?

The merchant was funny

>>714949016
>NO THATS TOO LOW
>NO THATS TOO LOW
>NO THATS TOO LOW

>>714943494
after beating this, i thought the krazoa test of fear also required button smashing and got stuck for a long time until i figured out you had to use the control stick

>>714941274
>Would have been better if the combat was as fast as the N64 Zeldas
This I could put up with the pace of travel and exploration if the combat wasn't tedious as well.
I don't know what they were huffing to imagine Fox McCloud from the Star Fox rail shooter series needed to have battles that felt like slogs.

>>714940230 (OP)
>Music
9.5/10
>Visuals
9/10
>Puzzles
7/10, most of them of the "square peg goes into square hole type", gets one extra point for all the different kinds of holes there are
>combat
3/10, rises into a 4/10 after you get the ice beam, which lets you freeze enemies and kill them instantly which is a massive improvement
>overall
7/10 not a bad game, but not one you'll remember for it's game mechanics. You'll remember it for Krystal, that's for sure

krystal sex

>>714940230 (OP)
you'll probably like it for what it is but not really

>>714943494
I have watched this so many times it's burned on my brain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M73ktANpt4

>>714943494
what if it was krystal doing the test of strength............and they made her do it naked haha
and what if she failed against a man's strength and Musclefoot got to rape her haha

>>714952684
This feels like a scene you'd see in Ice Age

>>714940230 (OP)
>furshit aside, was it good?
it's decent enough
>I want a new zelda game to play, it's either this or darksiders
darksiders

The gameplay may be so repetitive but the ost, the stages and the ambient... It's one of my favorites gamecube games, i even like it more than Twilight Princess. Not to mention that this game looks so great for a gamecube game

>>714941368
>>714942548
>>714942619
>>714943602
It was Rare, it was always Rare, all Miyamoto didi was give them an offer to combine what they had with Dinosaur Planet with the Star Fox adventure game concept they already had cooking over in Kyoto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-bPiQr9AoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO7ocvmoDBc&t=875s

Their old scribes said as such.

http://www.raregamer.co.uk/scribes-october-19th-2004/

>None of it had anything to do with Dinosaur Planet. That was way before the negotiations started, and besides, the Rare-Nintendo relationship didn’t work in such a way that they’d just force the SFA switch on us.

As Lee Schuneman explained in one of the links above, Rare didn't have enough confidence in Dinosaur Planet as a late stage original N64 IP with the GCN looming over the horizon as well as Rare also looking for potential buyers, they knew something had to change and that is why they jumped onto the Star Fox deal. It's sad but that's what happened.

The sad thing is I guess in the end it wouldn't of mattered because Dinosaur Planet, even if it would have been better than SFA, ironically probably would have faded into obscurity far faster than it did as a Star Fox game and just be yet another legacy IP for Microsoft to sit on and do nothing with.

>>714940230 (OP)
It was a lot better than Assault at the very least

>>714940230 (OP)
No. It's a Rare game so it's bad by default

No. It was terrible.
>FUR LO TA DEE DAH GENERAL SCALES!

>>714940230 (OP)
this was memorable in that it was probably the first game I ever dropped halfway through

>>714940230 (OP)
It held me over before WW came out. Only played through once and never returned.

>>714940230 (OP)
Not good.
It's not the worst thing ever, but the combat is ass, the puzzles are eh, wrestling the fucking triceratops to do the fucking thing is annoying, and the 15 minutes the game jerks awake and reminds you it's star fox are awful.

>>714940230 (OP)
it was "fine"
i literally only bought because i was a closeted furry and still think to this day that krystal is hot
no, i don't go to fur cons or have a suit
also, that image is notoriously censored when compared to the JP cover art
>fox's tail hides krystal's ass
>krystal's arm conveniently hides the entirety of her sideboob
i distinctly remember combat feeling pretty good and the animations being surprisingly well done, but it's still a "rare collectathon" game at its core with a lot of zelda beats grafted onto it, and most people won't really enjoy that

>>714960034
>it was a lot better than assault
fuck you, couch VS in assault was peak sleepover gaming along with metal arms and time splitters, and i won't let you slander any of them

>>714960664
Yeah
Assault's multiplayer was kino

>>714940230 (OP)
I played it, liked it and made it through without becoming a furry. Not the best Zelda-like but it's overall enjoyable especially is you like Dinosaurs.

>>714940230 (OP)
>it's either this or darksiders
Darksiders first, Starfox Adventures second

Only the first Darksiders is a Zelda-like, though.

>>714940230 (OP)
Looks great, plays ok. Not as good as Zelda. but its fun enough.
From a Starfox perspective though this game is ass and the plot ending is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen from Rare or Nintendo.

Star Fox Adventures 2 will save classic Zelda

>>714943494
I gotta call and thank my Mom.

>>714943494
>rubberbands so the harder you mash the harder it is to beat
This is the kind of shit /v/ would put in a game to fuck with people on purpose

>>714943494
I beat this game twice as a kid and never remember having any trouble with this. What exactly were people struggling with again? It's been a long time

>>714952978
This except replace Krystal with Fox

>>714943494
For me, it was destroying those spires while flying

>>714940230 (OP)
as a whole it's alright, but gameplay-wise it's kind of pretty bad/stitched together. The more you know about Dinosaur Planet the more you can notice just how much of a butchered patch job the final SFA is, and I don't mean the cut levels or even the story, the build we have doesn't even have either of those completely finished- I mean the stuff that did make it in like a lot of the dungeons and overworld levels, but had most of its original puzzles stripped out and replaced with "Carry explosive Barrel from A to B, A to C and A to D", it's excrutiating.

>>714962448
What do people think about this Arwing design?
I like it more than the hightech Arwing design from Assault, but on the other hand it looks slightly too crusty. The 64 design is still the best.

>>714960664
Don’t respond to Patch. His posts should be obvious to anyone who has ever been in a Star Fox thread, and it’s even more obvious that he has never even played Assault before (even confusing it as coming before SFA in a past thread because he’s THAT retarded).

>>714940230 (OP)
there's nothing wrong with being a furry and wanting to fuck furry women

>>714943494
this was the part I got stuck on as a kid and gave up

>>714943494
For me it was that test of fear where you had to keep a thing in the middle of a bar to prevent Fox from pissing himself.

>>714940230 (OP)
The physical embodiment of
>it's a good game, but not a good [X] game

>>714940230 (OP)
It's alright i'd say, a pretty safe 6-7/10 for me.
Would krystal

>>714967996
It's not even a good game. It's a mid game carried by the IP.

>>714959997
>The changes will result in a better game
I felt insulted playing Adventures. Better game my ass. Rare should have told miyamoto to fuck off. That's PR talk due to Rare still working with Nintendo

Furshit aside, it's just OoT but worse in almost every aspect.

>>714943494
I was a monster at mashing as a kid from perfecting my A flick, but the hide-and-seek minigame quite literally stumped me for months on and off with this game. It got to the point where I'd play up to the village, delete the save and then restart just so I can hopefully first-try it on repeat.

...and then I got permanently locked by the Krazoa puzzle right after.

>>714959997
>2004
You can post this as many times as you want, but that is basic PR jargon, of course they're not gonna outright say "Rare's higher ups fucked over the DP team with a change to their work", they were still working on the DKC games at the time.
>Star Fox Adventure game concept
They took Rare's work and made them spend even more time changing it to a SF game. DP would have been done in less than a year if they left it alone.

>>714940230 (OP)
It’s RareKINO.

>>714973149
>They took Rare's work and made them spend even more time changing it to a SF game. DP would have been done in less than a year if they left it alone.
Not even remotely true, and the fact you obsessed Rare fanboys keep trying to spin the story to make a company that was already putting out flops like JFG look innocent is exhausting. The only changes that likely set Rare back were the ones done to port SFA over to the GameCube. The nearly-completed leaked build of DP we have already had the Fox model implemented. They hadn’t finished as much of the original vision as you keep thinking they did. Time to let it go.

>>714960034
No the fuck it wasn't lmao. Even if you don't like the on-foot shit, it still plays nicer and has more to do with Star Fox than hitting things with a stick.

>>714974082
>The nearly-completed leaked build of DP we have already had the Fox model implemented.
The build was from December 2000. The changes were underway by E3 of that same year. That's MONTHS of work stalled to change the game. Seven months to be exact. They would have definitely finished the original project.

>>714940230 (OP)
yep it's pretty kino
would unironically be the best 3d zelda on the gamecube if it wasn't rushed as shit
still better than ww though kekaroo

>>714940230 (OP)
The furshit was the only good part, it's an otherwise abysmal game.

The fact of the matter is that Dinosaur Planet still had shit like the rail shooter sections on the pterodactyl, or the Star Wars speeder bikes. Even the "General Scales is just a pawn" thing was still there, the real antagonist was Drakor. I sincerely doubt we lost out on a bunch of spectacular content, and I think the anti-Adventures crowd's obsessive insistence how good DP would have been is entirely misplaced.

If it came out on N64 and wasn't "the weird Star Fox game," YouTube e-celebs would instead be uploading "bad game design" videos about how its camera control wasn't very precise, it took itself too seriously and lacked the classic Rare humor, it wasn't as good as Ocarina of Time, and that it should probably have been a Star Fox game because its characters look like something from Star Fox.