Thread 714951848

Expectations?

probably nothing for a good few years while Square remakes all the best sellers
with how poor XVI sold they probably need the money

>>714951848 (OP)
It's gonna be shit like all the FF games in the last 20 years

>>714951848 (OP)
>illuminati
Dropped

>>714951848 (OP)
Not worth buying like anything after XII

Call me ten games later.

>>714952363
>after XII
apologise to my wife RIGHT. NOW.

>>714952419
>mfw we're 2 years from the age of this poster but we're still 10 games short
The worst timeline

>>714951848 (OP)
After the steaming pile of garbage XVI was, I have no hope at all
XV at least had some things going for it, but XVI was so fucking boring and shit
so depressing what Final Fantasy has become

>>714951848 (OP)
2030 at earliest

It'll be turn-based and have a parry. Guarantee it.

>>714952530
the total slowdown of game dev - outside of indie spaces - has been an unmitigated disaster for gaming.

everything takes longer, so it costs more money to make, so the suits demand only "safe" investments be made, which means chasing existing trends and relying on shitty market research even more.
But because the game takes so long to come out they're chasing trends from five years ago by the time it comes out.

they're so cumbersome and slow to react their own games are floating, unstoppably, towards doom, unable to turn in time.

>>714953109
Yeah, enough time has passed from Square experimenting with real-time combat and open world settings for them to return to traditional FF gameplay.

>>714953109
and a 16 year old french cutie

>>714951848 (OP)
Zelda logo
>D E S P E R A T E

>>714953231
i dont think making the game turn based is going to automatically unfuck final fantasy

>>714953109
>and have a parry
I hope not

>>714951848 (OP)
>13
shit
>14
shit
>15
shit
>16
shit
>17
gonna go ahead and say it will be shit

Square Enix forgot how to make a good modern Final Fantasy title

>>714953645
I think it'd be received well on paper but in practice given how short-form content has fucked everybody over most people would probably hate it and it'd drive away potential fans.

>>714951848 (OP)
Why squeenix is so afraid of going full gits sci-fi kino? Why do they insist on unoriginal medival fantasy?

>>714954039
10, 12 and 13 were heading in that direction. I don't know what the fuck they were doing with 15 but 16 is just generic medieval fantasy slop.

>>714954039
They are still reeling from The Spirits Within.

>>714953645
It wouldn't but it's a prerequisite towards unfucking Final Fantasy. Who is the target audience of FFXVI? They already piss off the traditional FF fans but no fan of action game is going to like the super dumbed down action combat of FFXVI either. No one plays FF for the combat anyway so even if FFXVI had the best combat ever I am not sure that's enough to sell the game.

>>714954286
Uncharted/ Nu God of War/maybe horizon?

FF16 was a timed Sony exclusive so I'm guessing they wanted something to fit into that landscape.

>>714951848 (OP)
>FeMC
Skipped

>>714953109
Investors and journos and retarded fans and SE themselves have framed the relative success of E33 as being about muh heckin turn based combat, but the thing that really makes E33 blow any modern FF out of the water, is that it has a well tuned world/scope on par with classic FFs. It feels like you're on an expansive adventure, but also there's really not much fluff and all things considered it's actually pretty linear, but there's enough wiggle room where you don't feel it. Compare it to 13's pure hallway experience, or 15's shit open world, or 12 and 16's obscene padding with mind numbing MMO style content. More than just the combat, they lost the plot on the entire overall formula that made the series so beloved. It's not even a story/writing thing, because there are people who still love FF8 despite it having the worst writing in the universe.

>>714953386
Based

I last night realized I have FINAL FANTASY X/X-2 HD Remaster in my steam library and am installing it right now
I vaguely remember at some point asking for a recommendation of which final fantasy I should play based on a specific criteria but now I don't remember what that criteria was, maybe I will remember as I play

>>714953929
14 was shit a year at the start and a year at the end

>>714951848 (OP)
>google this to see if ff17 is real/annoucned yet
>it's all youtube thumbnails of tranny AI art
what gives?

17 will probably exist... one day, probably 10 years from now. FF7R3, KH4, and an apparent FFIX remake are all in the works now, and there's no way they're all coming out near each other. Furthermore I doubt Square is happy with 16's results so they'll probably waste years researching the latest trends to use for the game.

>>714957235
I'd bet on
FF9 - 2026
KH4 - 2027
FF7R - 2028

>>714957803
Honestly I think it's KH4 2026, FF7 2027, and FFIX got cancelled back when they announced that they cancelled a bunch of projects earlier this year.

>>714951848 (OP)
the wokest shit imaginable. get ready for the trannies to save the world through talking and not fighting cause fighting is bad

>>714951848 (OP)
Live service title, likely not MMO, that will succeed FFXIV, worked on by YoshiP's crew that did FFXVI (because they sure as fuck didn't go back to FFXIV)
Think SE's own version of Monster Hunter but FF classes or something.

>>714951848 (OP)
if its not this. Its slop.

>>714957872
Would seem strange to me to hype up 9 in the way they have recently if they did cancel it. It'd be preferable not to have attention on the game if that's the case, but I suppose it's always a possibility.
There's also still DQ12 but it's the one we hear the least about so no clue how to gauge that one, feels like it's still years off.

>>714958080
I wouldn't play that.

>>714952447
NO

>>714958220
i don't give a fuck its better than whatever you propose. square doesn't need you, it needs me.

>>714953109
why do you faggots think parry is a good mechanic for a turn based game? it completely nullified any rpg mechanics in e33 for a game of simon says.
I can guarantee 200% that the same faggots calling Fromsoft games parry or roll slop are the ones shilling for that french faggot unreal engine sloppa of a game.
kill yourself.

>>714958356
I want a Final Fantasy game.
You want Final Fantasy job system + past flavor of the month mechanics except no parry.

>>714956827
you fell for a lie. Square should never develop FF17 until they have a concrete idea. It's fans will not accept anything short of excellence.

If they make something on par with E33 its a flop, because that game in all honesty is mid as fuck. It's just good to take a shit on Yoshi-P design because his design is god awful so anything slightly better is a great contrast.

>>714958456
I'm sorry, I'll add parry for the next version.

>>714958456
That is a Final Fantasy game you retard. Final Fantasy has always had Tactics never a 3d one, just an isometric 2d one. They can make a FF with all of those and it would still be FF. And even better because you can do more like burning the floor, electrifying water, etc. You would play it because you would have no option in fact by pure social pressure you would you are just pretending to be retarded.

>>714951848 (OP)
>FFXI - MMO
>FFXII - Meh
>FFXIII - Bad
>FFXIV - MMO
>FFXV - Meh
>FFXVI - Bad
>FFXVII - MMO
Clear pattern

>>714957872
Reminder ff9r was cancelled because they chose to focus on FFX remake instead

>>714956827
It's based on some cgi they showed years ago

>>714956647
Is this ok to play with mouse and keyboard or should I bust out the controller?

>>714958646
if they make an MMO Squareenix has committed suicide as a corporation and we should just let them die.

>>714958796
Pretty sure you would start obsessing over the new mmo and spend hours learning about the lore and characters indian anon

>>714958796
>Squareenix has committed suicide as a corporation

>>714958657
>they chose to focus on FFX remake instead
cbu1 doesn't have time to further destroy FFX at this time, you'll have to wait until after 7R3

>>714951848 (OP)
They’re barely going to have enough cashflow to fund FF7R3, what makes you think XVII is even going to be on the table?

>>714953645
Turn based has a lot of benefits. Main one being you can develop a battle system hermetically sealed away from and parallel to the "overworld". With a game like FF7 Remake, the battle system and all the animations and overworld are linked and knotted together and then you have platforming and collision detection and pathfinding etc. It creates bugs, and it enforces a certain type of level design and complexity and testing regimen. With turn based, you can develop the entire system from some prototyped cubes on a flat quad and you're 99% there. If you look at a game like Clair Obscur, the platforming and pathfinding are actually dogshit but they never had to really care too much and could pump that shit out lightning fast. Turn based enforces a nice discipline and reusability that could save FF from dev hells

>>714959007
Rebirth combat works but only if they focus on an original game that's not tied to having to tell 7 story

>>714959007
Also mapamundis, meaning they don't have to waste years and budgets in open world

>>714959007
Normies wont understand fuck all of what you are saying they are low IQ you wont convince them they dont matter anyway they dont really impact sales for Squareenix they will return to call of duty and roll slop games even subconciouslly they exist to consume flavor of the week slop.

I agree with you Pokemon tournaments show how deep a turn based system can be in a shallow game about 4 moves, monster types & a held item that has an effect.

>>714959038
shut the fuck up you dont know shit kys

>>714959168
Calm down pajeet

>>714958796
They'll just sacrifice another batch of newborns to whatever demon is keeping this corporation alive.

It's going to be shit because the last worthwhile game they released was kingdom hearts 2 20 fucking years ago

>>714951848 (OP)
More shit

>>714952447
>your wife?
she's my whore! haha hahahhaha

>>714951848 (OP)
>he needs to come back

>>714951848 (OP)
Can someone explain to me why they haven’t just taken the FF7R framework and just applied it to every game going forward? I played the 16 demo and was disgusted. No strategy and no allies? Just stupid Soulsslop. They finally have a good framework for modern FF and REFUSE to use it

>>714951848 (OP)
I'm expecting that they are going to remake the gameplay from scratch after seeing how well a turn based game like E33 did.

>>714962923
because 16 was in development alongside 7R, made by different teams

If they let Yoshi-P make it, we could be getting it pretty soon, in 4 years at worse. If it's going to be a new director, which I believe it could be Nomura and Kitase it will take longer.

They should go with the gameplay of FF7 Rebirth.

They should also do a viral marketing campaign like FFXV did. Not make a movie and an anime, but still pump it out well. Also go back to hyper realistic mocap

>>714955059
>12
Having a game with that much optional content is kino though.

>>714963345
it should take long if it doesn't it will be slop

>>714951848 (OP)
>Combat
Hopefully aping FF7R or going full turn-based (not traditional ATB). I wouldn't mind seeing a FF take on something like BG3 but not as a mainline game
>Characters
I think they'll probably fall for the female protagonist meme again. FF really should have a male protagonist or at least a vibrant dude like Locke early on. Their female leads have been mediocre at best.
>Setting
Hopefully more creative than FF15/16.
>Story
don't overhype the summons like they've been doing with every recent game. old school summons are just weirdos that are around. Making them gods and super important to the plot hasn't worked out well.