What makes kids like Deltarune and Pizza Tower so much when they generally laugh off other pixel art games as "looking old"? It's literally MS Paint style, (mostly) very well done but still MS Paint style. Is it just meme inertia and peer pressure?

stop talking to other people's kids, anon.

>>714979291 (OP)
These are not the same kids. Kids aren't one uniform entity with the same thoughts, likes and dislikes.

>>714979291 (OP)
Pizza Tower has nice animation.
Deltarune has…furries.

>>714979518
I like furries, they're the only ones that innovate with new sexo designs.

>>714979490
But it is the same ones, I have seen multiple instances of this phenomenon
>>714979518
Furries don't guarantee success even if the pixel art is traditionally "good"

>>714979291 (OP)
Pizza Tower and Deltarune are fun.

>>714979518
Pizza Tower was made by a furry and references Memoirs of Magic.

>>714979291 (OP)
kids aren't playing undertale garbage

>>714980828
Most of the Deltarune fans I see on social media are well under 18

>>714979291 (OP)
they look like cartoons

>>714979291 (OP)
Kids like pizza tower??? Wow

>>714979291 (OP)
The kids who exclusively play graphics maxing mind munchers, are nit the same kids who play pixelshit.
There are roughly 3 types of gamers in the youth.
Graphic maker normoids:predominantly male usually only play stuff like CoD or fifa or other sports stuff, tend to be very concerned about being mature and will either drop video games or fall into the next category as the grow up.
The teaming mass: they just play whatever is popular or looks fun uses youtubers basically as game recommendations they play the largest variety of stuff likely has played fortnite, deltarune, anything really if it's popular open to whatever.
The fandomer: majoritively either female or mentally ill they like playing "cool" """"""obscure""""" games, are those really annoying and loud children who make a specific game their whole personality engages in shipping and theory slop ect. alot of the male ones in this category end up here once they grow up

>>714981083
most of them are early 20s groomers trying to attract teenagers

>>714979937
They scammed their artist to do everything for free when it comes to Freedom Planet 2.
It deserved to fail desu.

>>714981404
I don't understand the people who are open to playing anything but never seem to have any lasting interest
>t. the fandomer who ended up here when i grew up

>>714979291 (OP)
>they generally laugh off other pixel art games as "looking old"
they don't

>>714981478
[citation needed]

>>714981478
So if teenagers don't actually like Deltarune, and it's all adults, how are they going to groom teens who don't even care about Deltarune? Why wouldn't they pick a product that their victim actually likes?

I have never heard someone complain about a good classic pixelart game as looking bad. Nobody looks at pic and says this looks "looks old". Great pixel art will ALWAYS hold up.

Now, do people look at Deus Ex or Morrowind and say it looks old? Absolutely. This is not the fault of developers though. At the time, 3D art was a young medium and artists had not had time to develop it, whereas Metal Slug came long after pixel art was a mature genre. And look at 3D art, just a few years later we got great cel-shaded works like Wind Waker and TF2.

>>714981819
Sometimes variety is the spice of life, and you can only play a game for so long till you beat it/get bored of it.
The types who beat a game once and don't pick it up again afterward, or are just playing alot of multi-player flavor of the month stuff with friends most of the time so their single player game time is limited making them feel like it would be a waste to replay a single player game when there's a backlog to grind through.

>>714981083
This is also true for UT/DR threads on here and /vg/

Trying to lump Pizza Tower in as "purposefully shitty MS Paint artstyle" (as if this is a unified artstyle) is very strange, OP, nevermind Deltarune's sprites only occasionally being bad on purpose

>>714982534
But on the other hand autists rarely get bored with a game they really really like, and can put absurd hours into anything.
Which is why on 4chan it's relatively easy to have a thread about even old games because the autists who loved it never get bored of it, or bare minimum would like to reminisce

>>714979291 (OP)
Pizza Tower's animations are what allows it to use that ms paint style so well.
If it was poorly animated it would have not even come as close as it did with its success.

>>714979291 (OP)
>24-35 year old fags play it and ignore the graphics because graphics don't matter
>fag teenagers decide to play it too because it's popular and for being obsessed about being in "fandoms"

>>714979291 (OP)
fun/quirky/story/characters
the graphis don't matter

>>714979291 (OP)
>What makes kids like Deltarune and Pizza Tower so much when they generally laugh off other pixel art games as "looking old"?
I've literally never seen this. Can I get some screenshots please?

>>714983510
Oh, and I don't mean screen shots by different people where one says "pixel art is bad" and another says "pixel art is good." It has to be the same person saying both things. I've seen the opposite sentiment a ton, but never the one in OP.

>>714982972
What is "MS Paint art style" anyway? Aliased art?

>>714979291 (OP)
Deltarune got a big push from the Undertale connection, which only blew up because of the Homestuck millennials
It's not kids that made it huge, it's 25-35 manchildren (like me)

>>714982972
The backgrounds are purposefully shitty
>>714983810
Outlined pixel art with vivid colors and no or low anti aliasing

>>714982040
The fake age is the grooming part.

>>714984109
They think porn of the main Deltarune cast is pedophilia, they're fandom teenagers no matter how much you cope.

>>714979291 (OP)
I just don't really like light hearted games to be honest, I feel childish playing it

>>714979291 (OP)

>>714979291 (OP)
Because they're extremely popular. That's it, that's always been the reason for why kids like certain games.

>>714983810
It's barely disguised "CalArts" shitposting.

>>714982972

Because they are games that very much appeal to kids. You're not gonna catch some 15 year old who doesn't even know what gender they are playing fuckin Armored Core Master of Arena for the PS1. Deltarune revolves around a bunch of teenagers. It is a game for teenagers, who may or may not have played Undertale when they were younger. That's why the story is typical childish 'power of friendship' shit.

>>714984663
But I like MS Paint style

>>714984663
I.M. Meen and Faces of Evil are quite literally MS Paint games and they aren't what I'd call "Calarts".

pizza tower looks amazing in motion

>>714979937
I'm surprised FP never picked up more than it did. It ticks all the boxes for a rabid autistic fanbase. Indie game, sonic clone, furries, edgy/emotional story

>>714986271
FP1 did for a bit, then FP2 went in a completely different artistic direction, took 7 years to come out, and wasn't as good as the first

>>714979937
FP is kino

>>714979291 (OP)
They are cartoony and have cartoony expressions. Yes, even Deltarune has them. Kids love cartoons.
I'm willing to bet if Undertale/Deltarune had a more realistic style they wouldn't have been nearly as popular.

>>714982179
There have definitely been times where it's a louder sentiment. During the late 90s through the early 2000s it was probably at its worst since if something wasn't 3d it was pretty much sending itself out to die in the reviewer circuit unless it lucked out and got reviewed by someone that likes sprite based games or just liked the game enough to not let their bias win. Not to mention the typical game buyer (not dudebro, not turbo casual, just Joe Random picked out of the entire sample size) was probably not going to be impressed with games that "looked" like arcade games (even if they were for and away better looking) when revent big and mid size company release looked better to them. The latter is what's most true today since the former has more or less fallen away as the younger generation grew up to be the reviewers

>>714984663
>>714985705
If I personally had to describe the MS Paint style, it's kinda like the digital equivalent to coloring outside the lines. A lot of old retro games had to adhere to specific grid coordinates due to hardware limitations, so they end up pretty blocky-looking, even if they're late-stage SNES games. Indie devs don't have to adhere to those limitations anymore, so they can make their sprites as crazy and abstract as they want. The usage of mostly flat colors also helps with that MS Paint-like aesthetic.

I mean technically speaking, games like Street Fighter Alpha and Darkstalkers also kinda fit into this category.

>>714982972
>peppino has something like 3000 sprites

>>714990764
This is true. The game puts a heavy emphasis on character expression with the dialogue portraits and a significant part of the fandom creates and shares memes with these characters in cartoonish scenarios (like Asgore running of Dess). The appeal of these character designs is a big reason why the game is as popular as it is. That and the fun gameplay, engaging story, and fantastic soundtrack

>>714991872
>running of
I meant to say running over.