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Why do corpocuck shills meltdown when you ask for private servers?

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>>714982835
>>714982870
Shills mad

>>714982745 (OP)
It's because they desperately want control over you and the feel like the less control you have the more they do compared to you.

>>714982745 (OP)
It means they can't flip a switch and force you onto a sequel with fewer features and more monetization to boil fans like frogs over a decade.

>>714982876
>competition
No one is going to compete with the official server unless said official server is complete dogshit. Let autists have their own little space, it's not that hard.
>confusion
WELCOME TO MY PRIVATE SERVER, PLEASE NOTE THAT WE ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH [COMPANY]
it's not that difficult

ask for em all you want, hell even vote with your wallet, but you dont have any right to legislate that.

NuHitman proves that a game can be completely transparent about all this people will still buy it. The game could have likely only gotten investing because the proposed model, then consumers thought the product was worth it once it came out and bought it. Win for everyone.

no need to legislate how companies make a luxury good, it isnt water. let them make the toys the way then want then simply buy the ones that are made to your tastes. very simple

>>714982745 (OP)
>CoD
>you need privateteer servers
you don't

>>714983226
>Activision is doing that in my mind
they have never done this, never shut down online multiplayer and everyone still buys their latest CoD
cope

>>714983228
its more that a company should have the right to pursue a temporary ownership model because they may want to incentivize people to move on to the sequel when the time comes.

this isnt even close to corpo bootlicking by the way, simply dont buy the game if you dont like that model. you still hold ALL the power to get them to do what you want, your tastes just need to be in the majority.

>>714983381
What an odd post.

>>714983226
if they were transparent about that being their model, which most of these products are already, nuhitman is a great example, then just dont fucking buy it if you dont like that

>>714983480
>you still hold ALL the power to get them to do what you want, your tastes just need to be in the majority.
hmm
>you still hold all the power btw we will indoctrinate normalcattle to swing the vote(with your wallet) hard in the other direction so nothing you do matters
>but you hold all the power trust me bro!

>>714983237
>waaaah WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH muh heckin luxury
Can't hear you over my Peacock server.
>don't any right
That's what the petition is for.

The ability to continue playing [old thing] disincentivizes you from buying [new thing].

>>714982876
false
the initiatinve asks for the devs to allow the games to connect to community servers IF and ONLY IF the official servers are retired and no longer available, meaning community supported versions and official versions would not co-exists, so there would be no competition

>>714983683
The part of the petition that compels companies to act under thread of legal penalty does not benefit you in the end. Once again, games like NuHitman were likely only able to get greenlit because of their proposed ownership model.

They went with that model and consumers decided it was worth the potential risk. People bought it, a lot.

This was a mutual exchange of goods for currency. Legislating so models like this have more difficulty being pursued/cant be pursued at all, before simply advocating for more consumer awareness, is foolish. Then if you've advocated for consumer awareness and people still want the thing, your tastes are simply in the minority.

>>714983646
literally just advocate for more consumer awareness before forcing luxury goods companies to axe an entire business model

none of you are EVER able to contend with the fact that, once again for the third time this thread, NuHitMan was INCREDIBLY transparent about using this model, that model was likely the reason the game even got funding in the first place, then people bought it, a lot. They bought it so much it is still being supported to this day.

>>714983782
wong
the ability to continue playing [old thing] incentivizes and forces devs into making a [new thing] worht playing over the [old thing]

how do we know this? cause it's been like that for decades
when NFS Most Wanted came out, we still had the ability to play NNFS Underground 2, did that made people not get Most Wanted? No, they still got it, cause Most Wanted was an incredibly good game and even surpassed Underground 2 in reviewers(which at the time weren't the idiots they are now) and players scores.

>>714982870
>>714982835
ywnbaj

>>714984383
as a business, their maximum efficient combination would be both making a better sequel AND shutting down previous iterations

>>714982745 (OP)
>AvP has dedicated servers
based

>>714985014
not really, cause the backlash they'd get for shuttng down previous iteration might as well impact the sales of the new sequel, regardless of how good it is, especially nowadays with stuff like review bombing and major youtubers having a great influence

>asking for community servers like every fucking game used to have no problem is somehow this insurmountable, harmful task now
>there are actual, non paid, non bot, real human consumers that share this opinion
Actual cattle, without exaggeration

>>714986217
Because companies are held accountable now for what happens on their games. They don't wanna be held accountable for not moderating children getting groomed in a random community server. So yes it is an insurmountable harmful task now because of all the accountability they carry.

>>714986217
>>there are actual, non paid, non bot, real human consumers that share this opinion
im legit not surprised when there are people who don't even know how to use installers, meaning they'd likely not even know how to use community servers cause they didn't even know they were ever a thing, even if they likely have played games that did have them

>>714986217
it's their product, they can do with it whatever they want.
dont like it? dont buy it

>>714985547
theoretical, and the real point is that it should be entirely up to the business if they want to take that risk

those same influencers should simply be spreading the word about games whose practices they disagree with, rather than trying to legislate away a model of business.

honestly if all this results in is a warning label that says "this game might not work one day", I think im okay with that. We already have games that do that with everyone aware the game is doing that and people still bought it by the truckload (Nu Hitman)

>>714986418
>decades of people playing on community servers without issue
>normalfags flood in
>suddenly pedo issue
HMMM

>>714986645
There was always pedo issues retard. Legislation just cracked down on it. Even if you moderate it you run into 1000 issues. Go look at why Tabletop Simulator doesn't have a global chat anymore. Or why Roblox is in the news every other month.

>>714983237
It's not the bill of needs

>>714983381
They don't officially shut them down no but they let hackers ans rce exploits run rampant basically making them unplayable unless you play the community loaders like iw4x which would be fine if they didnt also cnd those server projects half the time making it so your only options are risking your pc (or console, exploits let you get permabanned or reset stats or perma fucking up your loadouts and more) or playing the newest slop

>>714984156
I want scum driven out of the market. I will take that sacrifice of "certain games might not be made because they're made by scum who can't give a fair deal"

>huurrr if u dun like it dun buy it
>the entire market is like this now
>on top of companies trying their hardest to make the old good games that you actually owned not work anymore to force you to pay for their temporary slop
We should improve society somewhat.

>>714986625
>those same influencers should simply be spreading the word about games whose practices they disagree with
that's what im referring to, influencers who have a great reach are capable of influencing sales simply by stating their opinion about games whose practices they disagree with and explain why, cause people who watch them might decide to not buy said games cause of their influence

>honestly if all this results in is a warning label that says "this game might not work one day"
anon, if this is what you think, i don't think you understand the issue...
this, a label saying "this game might not work one day" is how things are now (not just for nu hitman), the "label" is right there in the TOS you agree with when buying a game that requires connection to servers, the issue is exactly that the conseuquences of accepting this is games you bought can be rendered unplayable out of nowhere, even when what you might want to play isn't the multiplayer component of it, cause some of these games will simply refuse to even go in the main menu if no connection to the servers is established, meaning that even the single player campaing might be unavailable
what this initiative aims at is LEGISLATING that games should not be allowed to this, even if the user agrees to such TOS(in the EU TOS can't override laws, i.e., in the EU you get 2 years of warranty on any electronic product, even if the TOS and included warranty pamphlet says you get 1 year, cause by law 2 years is the minimum, and that pamphlet can't override this even if you have agreed to such warranty), and it is absolutely the devs/publishers rights to decide to shut down their servers whenever they want to(that's what you agree with in the TOS), but they MUST give the players the ability to continue playing the game via community made servers.

The best part of this is that regardless of users accepting the TOS, the EU can indeed decide that those TOS are unfair or anti-consumer and thus demand changes.

>>714986645
this is why you gatekeeep

>>714987829
>Thinking retards can resist not mindlessly consooming
>Halo 3 literally locked you out of matchmaking if you didn't buy map packs
>Retards buy it anyway because I won't be able to play with my friends!!!!!!!
>Just complain about it which is pointless
>Practices get sneakier and sketchier
>Retards stop complaining
>Just keep conssoming
Most people are literally just cattle. Never learn to critically think about anything and raise kids who do the same.
Society a fuck or whatever idk anymore

>>714987896
Yeah you should let communities self moderate. Just ignore that 90% of them crumble because the server owner was grooming a kid/dating someone and they broke up/mentally unstable/a single girl joined/all of the above/etc....

>>714988295
>Just ignore that 90% of them crumble because the server owner was grooming
>because the server owner
>the server owner
>THE
and here is where you expose your ignorance, cause with community servers there isn't A server owners, there's servers tools which ANYONE can run on ANY PC, literally all games that have community servers have hundreds of community servers, with community servers there is no such thing as "THE server owner"

>>714988610
And someone runs the server you fucking absolute mongoloid. No one wants to play on a server that's not online when the owner turns off their PC.
You're so fucking ignorant it hurts. To the point I know you're probably not even old enough to not think server hosting is like Overwatch custom games or some shit.

>>714989094
>No one wants to play on a server that's not online when the owner turns off their PC.
fucking christ dude, people who host servers have, wait for it, dedicated PCs for that scope
nowadays a server for around 10 rooms of 64 players each runs off of a fucking Pi 5

>>714989250
Wow no shit. I wonder what you would call the guy that owns that.

>>714987360
Kill yourself you don't have a right to video games retard.

>>714983237
>but you dont have any right to legislate that.
Actually, we do.

titanfall 1 dedicated servers please.

>>714989393
>People are so stupid and wasteful with their resources you have to make laws that stop them from getting scammed by an item that says "HEY WERE SCAMMING YOU"
Why do you think there's so many laws around gambling and casinos? They didn't get into lobbying(bribing) fast enough.

>>714982745 (OP)
>Why do corpocuck shills meltdown when you ask for private servers?
How are they going to harvest your private data when you are playing on your own server?

>>714987845
why should a business be compelled to give player the ability to continue playing their game via the community made servers? what if they want to incentivize players to move on to a sequel?

>>714982745 (OP)
there's literally no one playing that shit

>>714989335
let me make it even more clear...
WHO GIVES A FUCK IF A SERVER OWNER ENDS UP BEING A PEDO, HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE RUNNING A SERVER, ALL GAMES THAT HAVE COMMUNITY SERVERS HAVE TENS IF NOT HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE RUNNING SERVERS, IF ONE OF THEM ENDS UP BEING A PEDO NO ONE GIVES A FUCK, WE MOVE TO A DIFFERENT SERVER
>inb4 they're all pedos
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT >>714986645 IS REFERRING TO, COMMUNITY SERVERS HAVE BEEN A THING FOR DECADES WITH NO SUCH ISSUES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY WANT TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE ITS PEDOS RUNNING THEM, ITS AS FALSE FLAG YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID

I'm hosting and playing all of those games

>>714990139
Let me make it even more clear...
COMPANIES ARE NOW HELD LIABLE FOR THIS DUE TO RECENT LEGISLATION SO THE EASIER ANSWER ITS TO JUST HAVE PUBLIC SERVERS
>COMMUNITY SERVERS HAVE BEEN A THING FOR DECADES WITH NO SUCH ISSUES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY WANT TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE ITS PEDOS RUNNING THEM, ITS AS FALSE FLAG YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID
THIS IS NOT TRUE YOURE A FUCKING RETARD PEOPLE WERE GETTING GROOMED ON EVERY GAME YOU COULD SPEAK TO ANOTHER PERSON
GROOMING ONLINE IS NOT NEW YOU FUCKING MUTT

>>714990139
>who cares if our brand is associate with raping children?!?!
you have to be 18 to post here

>>714986418
>They don't wanna be held accountable for not moderating children
This has literally never been an issue and every company has always had a "Online interactions are not rated by thr ESRB". There is also nothing stopping from them putting in a clause saying "Upon official server shutdown, the company is not responsible for interactions between users." They would never get in trouble for this, we've had dedicated servers for over 2+ decades now. You think AOL and MSN ever got in trouble from all the grooming shit that happened? No you retard, because they didn't facilitate it, the chat programs were just that: chat programs. They jailed the pedos

>>714987395
>but they let hackers ans rce exploits run rampant basically making them unplayable
The whole point of stop killing games is to hand over the game to the players. Its no longer the publishers job to police the online as the game is no longer actively supported. Its the same thing with old versions of windows. You can use them but you're on your own.

>>714990554
Yes dude, every company loves going through litigious processes of having to pay people to comb through logs of chats to prove someone was getting trafficked/groomed/etc...
Especially in modern day when a lot of those laws are more strict. Websites are held liable for user posted content. Games are held liable for user operated servers. You're a retard.

>>714990025
>why should a business be compelled to give player the ability to continue playing their game via the community made servers
cause it's what they always did in the past and it never hurt new games sales
>what if they want to incentivize players to move on to a sequel?
you do that by making a sequel that is as good if not better than the previous game, that's the entire point of a sequel and how sequels have always been made, and if they fail at that(which has happened), then they're not worth being played and being able to keep playing the previous game is a must
and i already explained this here >>714984383

picture this
Game 1 is an excellent game, everyone loves it
their devs announce Game 2, and as soon as it launches, they shut down the servers for Game 1, so everyone is forced to move onto Game 2
Game 2 however is a complete mess, not fun, not up to par with Game 1, with features no one asked and which no one enjoys, to the point most people decide to not play it at all, or even refund it if they can
Result? Game 2 is a flop, not enough players play it, so the servers for it are shut down as well, and now no one can play Game 1 either.
Does that seem like good scenario to you?
Or, Game 2 might be good for most players from Game 1, but not for all, and those still prefer to play Game 1, but now can't simply cause Game 2 exists.
Does that seem like a good scenario to you?

To me it doesn't, and to keep the NFS example i made in my original post, if i want to keep playing NFSU2 even if NFSMW came out, I can, and arguing that making it impossible to play NFSU2 when NFSMW is out is something the devs should be able to do is borderline dystopian insane

>>714982745 (OP)
Mostly because they're butthurt they gotta spend a little extra money I guess. My only concern is the fact that it's going to be enforced through the EU whom I don't trust for shit to not abuse their power and influence to get their grubby hands on anything that'll get them extra money. That's not enough for me to try and defend corposhills or be against the petition though.

>>714984821
yawnjag

>>714982835
>vidya is off-topic on /v/
my bad, I'll make a bbc hypno sissy thread and another aislop one

>>714990369
>>714990380
please kindly explain how games such as L4D1 and 2, COD MW3 and BO3, 7 Days, DAYZ, Red Orchestra 2, Risk of Rain 2, TF2, all CS versions, and several other games that CURRENTLY allow community servers are able to do so and have been able to do so for decades while somehow dodging this issue and none of them being asociated with any of this issue.

If any, ANY, of what you're claiming was true, none of these games would do this or would even be allowed to do this, yet they do, wanna know why? Cause such issues aren't real or aren't as wide spread as you claim them to be.
Grooming in servers have been a thing? Sure, obviously, but it's absolutely not an issue so spread that every single server and every single server owner is involved, otherwise they would have been caught and shut down several years ago.

>>714983480
>because they may want to incentivize people to move on to the sequel when the time comes.
make a better game nigger

>>714990369
they're not held liable, and there's no way to hold them liable for services they're not providing, it's actually impossible, it'd be like me suing you for getting raped in a house you sold to someone else a decade ago

>>714986537
>Don’t buy it because of [objectively bad thing for consumers]
>Enough people either being too ignorant or are cultists buy it anyways
>[Thing that is objectively bad for consumers] spreads to other products
>Not just products in that specific industy, but also other industries too
>People have to start buying said products with [objectively bad thing for consumers] because the finding a product without it is nearly impossible
God forbid the government we pay our taxes to stops this scenario from happening and giving consumers more rights! If we did give consumers more rights, it might go against corporations’ rights to fuck me over!!

>>714991383
TF2 is literally a groomers playground. If I think of a game that still exists where grooming is prevalent it's TF2. None of those other games aside from CS have a big enough public player base to even start a game without bringing friends in.

>>714983237
>but you dont have any right to legislate that.
You 100% do. In fact, the creation and implementation of such legislation is one of a Governments primary jobs.

>>714991542
I have normalfag friends who are gonna buy borderlands 4 no matter what I yell them...

>THINK OF THE CHILDREN
Every fucking time.

>>714991697
>the government exists in order to make devs keep The Crew servers running until the Sun explodes
lol no wonder the EU is imploding

>>714991462
No it's like renting a house to someone then getting sued because you didn't evict the sex offender living in the basement or tell anyone about them.

>>714982876
trademark and IP laws should never be more important than consumer rights and protections. this is a shitty argument. There is NO EXCUSE OR ARGUMENT FOR DIGITAL SERFDOM. THEY WANT US TO OWN NOTHING AND CONSTANTLY KEEP TAKING MONEY FOR US WITH ENDLESS SUBSCRIPTIONS AND COSTS.

>>714982876
>Demand private server as an alternative for THE GAME SHUTTING DOWN
>"noooh or else the server we want to SHUT DOWN would compete with private servers"
How retarded are you? Have you seen a doctor?

>>714991842
Yes, that was the pathetic lie used to push for lootbox regulation

>>714991842
>Argument I can't refute
Every fucking time.

In summary: You are not allowed to have fun on your own terms and have things we had 20 years ago.

>>714991860
every fucking thread there's a retard like you making a strawman argument

>>714992009
>please refute my circular logic retard argument

>>714991891
They aren't taking anything. People choose to give them money in exchange for the ability to play their online offering.

>>714992009
be a better parent

>>714984020
I was an intern in DC for a year, lobbyists just make shit up for documents like this. This probably was written to address us hastily but was really meant to be sent to legislators before us to color their opinion and already give them preconceived notions

An intern probably wrote this. Actual lobbyists are too busy taking people out to dinner and shit. But the point is that these documents don't have to be accurate or .are sense. They just have to look sizable. They figure that the legislator isn't gonna understand it anyway.

They had us writing these documents about how Shale Oil was good and it wasn't ever about finding facts. It was about filling up the page with as many lies as we could. It always starts with "find me innercity programs in Detroit that teach young blacks to play basketball and keeps them off drugs" and then you struggle to find even one and then you just claim it was a massive success. Its complete bullshit.

Notice the part about how they say game companies care about preservation, and best they can do for examples is that EA showed off battlefield 1 at a museum. Intern hands wrote this shit in a rush having no fucking idea about any facts. The example is funny too because half a dozen Battlefield games have been taken offline.

I wouldn't help them battletest their arguments early, I'd only respond directly to the EC

>>714992107
How is it circular logic? They removed Table Top Simulators global chat because a tranny was literally grooming kids in it and refused to stop. They even had to apologize for not letting them groom kids because it was "transphobic"

>>714982876
This, its all about this point. But my god the retardation of corpos to outright tell "its planned obsolescence" this is just something else.
How the fuck is it going to compete when you no longer sell your official fucking game?

>>714982745 (OP)
>>714982876
You need to move on. MOVE ON. YOU FUCKING COMMIE PIECES OF SHIT.

>>714992160
be a better consumer

>>714992281
>buy a Ford car
>someone cuts brake lines
>car crashes
>its somehow Ford fault

>>714992094
The world we know. Its gone.

>>714992527
>Be a billboard company
>Someone pays to put up illegal content
>Police knock on my door
>It's somehow my fault
Maybe you should think about what you're talking about instead of typing retarded false equivalences.

>>714982745 (OP)
NO...NO STOP IT...I-NEED MTX...I NEED MTX AND YOUR BATTLE PASS (+ PREMIUM BATTLE PASS) MONEY OR...OR I'LL D-DIEEEEEE YAAARRRRGHHHHHH!!!

>>714984156
>games like NuHitman were likely only able to get greenlit because of their proposed ownership model.
you're assuming too much. you can't possibly justify trampling over consumer rights. they have no technical reasons for making single-player games always-online and the decision was taken solely because they're control freaks who can't stand you playing games past a certain date

>>714984020
So you're telling me that I won't have to pay for a game as long as I outlast it's servers? And then autists will just give it to me for free? Where do I sign up?

>>714992527
Way to show you have no understanding of what you're talking about.

>>714992610
>accuses others of presenting false equivalences
>presents one himself
you're a fucking retard
anyway, for anyone reading your poorly written drivel, your analogy supposes that fans would take over the company's official servers, which is not the case
corpos are not liable for privately hosted servers and your'e a retard.

>>714983480
>you still hold ALL the power to get them to do what you want
Ten people who perform gacha whaling can spend millions over the lifespan of those games.
One hundred people who pay triple the price of a game to play it a few weeks early for EA games invalidates the wallet vote of hundreds of others, and then do it again with MTX and EA sports gacha pulls.

Where is the inventive for any dev to ever care about the opinion of someone who didn't buy?
"Vote with your wallet" died a long time ago, the pigs buying into these shit practices need to be wrangled legally and SKG is totally justified in its goal of ensuring games aren't just lost forever for no good reason.
I'm sure The Crew sucked ass, but without WoW Private classic servers blizzard would never have cared to make their own version.

>The company whose CEO said I should get used to not owning my games says this initiative is bad
Well shit, guess it's over SKGbros...

>>714992594
The only way a game can be taken from you is if its functionality relies on the continued existence of services provided by the devs and they end those services when they can't financially jusitfy continuing support. That part of Ubi's EULA isn't even exclusive to Ubisoft games and isn't enforceable.

>>714982835
I don't see how begging for reports isn't a roundabout way of announcing reports

>>714992974
There's nothing wrong with community servers when they announce no longer supporting it retard. It's having community servers while they're supporting the game because they're expected to do some moderating which they don't want to do.
If you understood anything being discussed you'd understand it's more just explaining why community servers aren't supported anymore.
If there's no support but it exists like valve then yeah sure. No one expects Valve to do anything about shit like the Furry Pound.
But if Overwatch was released today and had kids in some shit like that it'd be plastered all over the news and heavily investigated.
If you understand the difference congrats you've grasped the topic somewhat.

>>714989094
>No one wants to play on a server that's not online when the owner turns off their PC.
What is a VPS you absolute fucking moron. It's even easier AND cheaper to host dedicated servers nowadays.

>>714993201
it wouldn't.
wow has tons of shitty erp servers and you don't see blizzard sued over it
>b-but muh le toxic and extremist content
not official servers. no one gives a shit. eat a dick and die

>>714993392
And they're also vehemently against those servers as a company. Do you understand the difference now?

>>714991697
The sole purpose of the state is to provide for people's inalienable natural rights. You do not have an inalienable natural right to video games being made in a particular fashion and sold as permanent products instead of "services". Please stop being weird and buy games that are sold under terms that you like instead of demanding that the force of the state prevents alternatives.

>>714993201
Community servers also don't align with the modern esports trend. Skiggers don't want to believe it, but gaming has changed permanently and what used to be commonplace just doesn't fit in a consolefied, centralised environment.

>>714993483
You don't understand, you're talking to consumers with no self control. Do you just expect them to NOT play the newest Hitman game? You have to buy sequel slop#32424 you own nothing(Terms and Conditions will apply)

>>714993516
>implying anyone gives a shit about retarded tourneyfags

>>714993516
Yeah that's a big thing too. Every game wants some ranked skinner box that funnels you into games just to reset every other month to keep you playing and grinding. That's a whole other argument though.
The main issue is that public servers are just easier to moderate and maintain while having high levels of control.

>>714990692
Yes so they should have no right to take down the community projects that fix their broken shit.

>>714982745 (OP)
>corpocuck shills
It's in the name.

>>714993863
>Nobody gives a shit about games with several millions of players at minimum playing ranked modes
Uh huh. 1/10 I replied

>>714993392
>Blizzard literally gets slammed for lack of moderation with a custom game named "Sexual Assault Simulator"
>B-but private wow servers Blizzard takes down whenever they get the chance
You are literally so stupid it hurts.

>>714994435
you can play ranked matches anytime
people have set up independent ranked ladders before games even had leaderboards
furthermore, competitive players set up a scene with tournaments on their own, often against the wishes of the publishers
your point is moot and you're a retard

>>714982745 (OP)
Because it's a threat to the AAA industry as it would kill off always online games and live-service games.
Because an overwhelming majority of these corporate mucks don't want you to own anything and instead control you and the way you use your games.

If this were a thing back in the 2010's, then Overwatch 2 would've never come out and the 1st Overwatch would've been still around.

>>714992670
You still have to buy the game first.

>>714994474
>custom game named "Sexual Assault Simulator"
that happened on overwatch 2, which only has official servers, not 3rd party community servers
thanks for proving that you're a retard

>>714984156
Then other games will come out without such ownership models. Who cares, besides shills.

>>714995405
And if it was on a community server that they had no ability to shut down think about how the ramifications would be worse. Maybe think about what the point actually is instead of being a retard.

>>714990696
You're the fucking retard for thinking there is even a case against this

>>714995585
you're fucking delusional. what people do on private servers has no bearing on the company. they're not the ones hosting, therefore they're not responsible

We've already seen what this looks like though. It was a nightmare. You can tell all the skggers are really the youngest and dumbest fucks on earth because if you lived though the 90's/2000s you would already be aware we cycled through a "golden age" of private server bullshit, and it really. It kinda fucking sucked. An just like any private server bullshit, they quickly would find out electricity isn't free. So maybe donate here, or donate there. Before you know it they are worse than the actual product and unlike an actual corporation your favorite private server owes you absolutely fuck all and are accountable to nobody. One day it's there. One day its gone.

It's pretty wild to think we want to go back to a time when developers had zero say in their own creations being splattered across the internet for anyone to abuse and in 95% of most cases, simply being repacked, and resold again elsewhere. I'm sorry, but you're the dumbest fuck on earth if you want this shit.

>>714995928
>It kinda fucking sucked.
you taking the piss faggot?
when MW2 released, people around the world were applauding and celebrating when alteriwnet launched to free everyone from IW's incompetence and retardation
the cunts at infinity ward were seething so hard they sent private investigators and C&D letters to the houses of the server developers to stop them
make no mistake, the industry is really fucking afraid

>>714995928
It still is a nightmare. Don't look at the minecraft server landscape full of self-made millionaires scamming children with loot boxes that might give them admin.

Anyone who disagrees about how much abuse goes on is a blatant retard.

Lmao, gelbooru what the fuck

>>714992109
Now they're choosing to pass a law to make their lives better.

>>714994435
I'm a tournyfag and nobody gives a shit about tournyfags. That includes other tournyfags. But you keep larpin', shill.

>>714996381
this is the biggest thing thing that's happened in your lifetime basically

>>714996381
based gelbooru
meanwhile dan does nothing

>>714996550
They're choosing to pass a law to protect themselves from harmful business practices they chose to participate in.
If I buy bread from somewhere and there's a walnut I didn't want in it I don't buy bread from there again.
Unfortunately you have retards who think WELL THEYRE GONNA MAKE BREAD TOMORROW AND I HAVE TO BUY IT EVERYONES BUYING IT WHAT THE FUCK ANOTHER WALNUT????? WE SHOULD PASS A LAW TO BAN WALNUTS IN BREAD!!!!
Instead of just not buying the bread with walnuts we make a movement called stop adding walnuts and get a million people to sign.

>>714992281
>Table Top Simulators global chat because a tranny was literally grooming kids in it and refused to stop.
This is not what happened at all, holy fucking revisionist batman. Kill yourself

>>714997015
Then what do you call trying to talk about being gay and trans in a public chat filled with kids who just wanna play board games?

>>714996998
What if I had walnut allergies and the first bread killed me?

>>714996998
tell your therapist

>>714982745 (OP)
it's actually about control. They can't control you and have data to sell if you're on 3rd party servers. Everything else is cope. They've worked very hard to kill off a lot of the freedom of the old internet and box people in to little boxes and they really don't want you to have these little places to yourselves.

>>714997180
You signed up for a trial to watch the Mandalorian so unfortunately you gave up all rights for anyone to do anything about it. Maybe think about consuming things from evil people before consuming it retard.

SKG would not have saved a single game worth a damn people just support it cuz they want to le stick it to the man
you didnt play the crew back then so they shut it down
if they brought it back you still wouldnt have played it

>>714997323
Well that's one way to look at it but doesn't it just make infinitely more sense to have consumer protections regulated by law to prevent the whole ordeal in the first place?
Do you get triggered by the fact that games have age ratings?

>>714997457
I played TERA Online and fortunately when the servers finally shut down for good some based gigachad swiped the server files on his last day in the office and leaked them online that same evening. If it wasn't for him the game would be kill.

>>714986537
> Noooo you should fight this practice by doing something that doesn't work!!! don't fight it in a way that might actually work!!!! NOOOO!!!! STOP TRYING!!!!!!!!

>>714997457
>you didn't play the crew
i dont play shit racing sims you right

>>714997161
It's called LFG and it's been done since the beginning of online games you massive faggot
>"CLAN OPEN H4RDC0R3 E
1337 GAMERS ONLY SCRIMS ON MON-FRI"
>"BOOMER GAMER GROUP 50+, ALL BEER DRINKERS WELCOME - WILLY H NAM VET 1ST DIVISION '65-70"
-"420 BLAZERS GROUP ONLY CHILL NIGGAS"
its the same shit except fags and lesbos are juat looking for other fags and lesbos to play table top with, granted you're probably gonna get harassed for doing it in global but that's on them when a discord group would probably be better to search for a group. You are just mentally ill and think "groomer groomer GROOMER" because you are rotting your brain spending 10 hrs a day on this website.

>>714997509
Maybe you just shouldn't buy bread that you know has Walnuts in it if you're allergic to Walnuts?

>>714997762
I didn't know it had walnuts in.

>>714988142
What kind of argument is Halo 3? The packs were relegated to one or two special playlists and hardly anybody saw them in ranked or social because they weren’t required to play.

funny how valve games have been letting you host your own server for literal decades and they never complained about that being an option

>>714997825
The guy walking out said it had Walnuts in it, the reviews said bread with walnuts, it was advertised as an always walnut bread. You just chose to eat it anyway.

>>714997762
If I was allergic to walnuts and had the means to ban walnuts in bread, I would do it

>>714986537
>it's their product, they can do with it whatever they want.
it doesn't work like this anywhere, not even america, the people that are buying said products have their own rights too.

>>714997954
No, he didn't. In fact, there were no walnuts in the bread at all for several years, then they appeared without warning.
God this analogy is retarded.

>>714982745 (OP)
Because private servers mean they can't force you to buy the sequel.

>>714997825
Your fault for not asking. Kill yourself commie. Stop curtailing the freedoms of businesses.

>>714997740
Xoe: Funnily me talking about the history of expressing my gay-ness is against the rules.
<Some chatter asking Jorp to clarify>
Jorp: There's a big thing at the top, I think it's even in bold.
Xoe: Are you saying being gay is not family friendly?
<Kicked>
This doesn't look like they're looking for a game. Unless the game is arguing talking about your sexuality with people who are probably underage.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17kBMorbq59Izsu5gYA1B3pQfbyoaG102_p0pEWZx4Hk/edit?tab=t.0
You can read it yourself.

>>714998054
They can't stop you from saying nigger either and that's a big problem I guess.

>>714998089
>Hello I'd like one of your beef sandwich please
>Here you go sir
>Before I bite it, can I check that you haven't put cyanide in
>Yes we did sir
?????

>>714986537
There's no person whose freedom you're protecting, you're just own goaling for no reason.

>>714984020
>>714991901
It means that the private servers from [Previous Game] will compete with live servers from [New Game]. It's literally admitting they shut it down to force you to consume and stop asking questions

>>714983237
>but you dont have any right to legislate that.
Why not? Why shouls corporations be given any rights at all, let alone the carte blanche to do whatever they want that they have right now?

>>714993516
>Community servers also don't align with the modern esports trend
??? valve games still rely on being able to host your own servers or LANS and last time i checked dota and cs are still massively popular esport games.

>>714998237
If you don't like it, you don't eat it. Simple as.

>>714998398
Well I'd like a refund.

>>714991660
>TF2
>not roblox

>>714992009
Ok let's compromise. Dedicated servers for games rated mature since kids aren't allowed to play those anyway. Perfect.

>>714998652
>Roblox
>Not Minecraft
Sorry I'm old.

>>714998704
Let's compromise.
Ban minors from the internet.

>>714992094
This could be a summary of any piece about anything.

>>714986537
>dont like it? dont buy
that would work in 1995
not anymore when everything is false advertisement and patches changing stuff

>>714990369
>COMPANIES ARE NOW HELD LIABLE FOR THIS DUE TO RECENT LEGISLATION
Your overlords can't even stop all the raping around the office and you're telling me you're worried about someone hosting private servers?
Wanna know something that isn't my problem? Your liabilities.
Wanna know what is my fucking problem? Not being able to use a product I paid money for.
Fucking kill yourself

>>714999347
It would also work now but people just complain and keep buying it. Think about the CoD boycott steamgroup where half the people in it were playing the new CoD.
Retards with no self-control is the issue. Them being a protected retarded species because of it is kinda hilarious.

>>714993483
You even include quotes because you know it's a fraud. A service has clear terms. "service" is bullshit and has to go.

>>714999463
Alright sir, here's your private server
>Download "anti-cheat" plugin on join
>Immediate donate $20 now for admin system message on join
>12 y/o flys by and one shots you while screaming on mic
>Leave
>Join other server
>Download "Anti-cheat" plugin
>Annoying sound effects
>Leave
>Join another server
>Download "Anti-cheat" plugin
>Seems fun
>Server owner logs in starts flying around killing everyone
>Game crashes
>Computer now lags from all the "Anti-cheat" plugins

>>714999994
why doesn't this happen on any of the games with community servers that I play?

>>714995928
You lying fucking snake. Anyone who was there will certify it was the best time of online multiplayer.

>>714997180
>>714997323
>>714997509
Learn to read you stupid commie morons. It's not the company's fault that you bought something that kills you.
You're just government worshippers that hate private businesses. That's all there is to it.

Okay but it would be better if we just globally abolished intellectual property instead

>>715001368
So why do we have age ratings on games? It's not the company's fault if a parent buys a sex game for their kid right?

>>715001529
Start an initiative and I'll sign it.

>>715001567
>why do we have age ratings on games?
Because government-loving commies like you wouldn't shut the fuck up and kept lobbying the government.
You commies are a blight on the industry.

>>715001740
The ESRB is not a government body.

>>714996381
based

>>715001368
if you're too stupid to work out something at larger scale, try to dumb it down.

take a tribe of 20 people. you have one guy out in the savanna with his own security and farming (little plausible but let's say. a savant in the savanna).
he asks the tribe and convinces one guy to work for him. guy dies. tribe stops doing business with him. savanna guy pry ends up dying too or not; tribe doesn't care at this point anymore.

>>715001782
It was formed in response to government inquiries. It's your fault you fucking commies.

>>715002578
it was formed to protect the corporate kikes from any regulation

>>715002682
>regulation good
Why don't you go suck on some MEP's dick commie SKGtranny?

>>715002578
Did it really take you that long to research why the ESRB was formed?

>>715002850
Why don't you overdose on fent amerimutt goylem

>>714982745 (OP)
devs gave them to us willingly before, they didn't have a potential EU fine in the millions compelling them to do so

>>714982745 (OP)
>ITT: retarded libertarians

>>715002850
Get the damn ferret out of your ass, Jason.

>>715004145
why are eceleb worshippers like you also government bootlickers? is there a connection?

>>715002850
Why is regulation bad?

>>714999994
The joy of community servers is if you hate all that shit you can just host your own. You massive faggot corporate boot deepthroater

>>714982876
If the tools are only released when the devs pull support from the game, then how are they competing with the devs?

Rhetorical question of course; the only competition would be the studio's future games that they're trying to force the previous game's playerbase onto. It's planned obsolescence.

>>715004145
The ferret fucker dislikes SKG for the exact opposite reason of that anon

>>715004878
Anything the government touches turns to shit. You SKGtrannies are part of the problem. Just look at the floundering tech industry in eur*pe.

>>714991245
it doesnt matter if it's about video games or not, if you keep making threads about the topic when there are already multiple threads about said topic up then it's spam.

>>715006129
Seatbelts were a good regulation.

>>715006573
How are they good?
>You need to wear this restraint or you will be arrested because... uhhhh... we love you

>>714982745 (OP)
You ever consider starting all these redundant threads asking people who have zero say in the matter might have something to do with people trolling you? Fucking retard.

>>715006657
Yes, your death comes at my tax expense.

>>715006745
>we need new regulations to control people because of the costs of our other regulations controlling people
Statists should exterminated if we're all being honest. And nobody that supports SKG pays taxes so stop lying.

SKG is a communist tranny initiative.

>>715006717
>Who have zero say
If only (you) knew

>>715006962
Cleaning your scattered flesh off the road costs tax money.

Its going to be funny as shit seeing all of these redditors cry when the EU sides with the negacorporations over a bunch of jobless losers throwing a tantrum over the crew. You lost, you will own nothing and that makes me happy.

>>715005517
>should we try and get some rights since we don't have any?
>no fuck that what are you a commie???

>>715007696
>when the EU sides with the negacorporations
you say this when they literally just forced apple to use usb-c over their proprietary garbage

>>715008108
Because they use iphones too and everybody hated that shit. None of these boomers cares about videogames.

>>715008108
Wow, butthurt Android poorfags forced Apple users to use an inferior charging cable. What a win!

>>715008209
>Because they use iphones too
they don't, iphones are only dominant in america

>>715008394
Poorfag cope

>>715001021
this anon is a real one

>>715008540
you can literally just look this up

>>715008108
because there was an actual lobby on the side of the usb-c argument and it was paid for by everyone else (other phone megacorpos) that isn't apple retard

>>714982745 (OP)
>now it's about private servers only
Shifting the goalposts I see.

do we really have apple shills in this thread that are against usb-c

>>715009201
Can you kill yourself commie SKGtranny?

>>715009240
Honest question, does usb-c actually make you mad

>>715009121
It's not only about private servers. It is about many things.
>singleplayer games that have forced always online
>games that as sold a a single purchase but are treated by the videogame publishers as GaaS

>>715009851
I think that this >>715009240
is a bot or a schizo. You can see the constant spam replies.

>>715009964
I've come to expect it from this board

>>714996381
Where do you think Ross got an arm like this?

Daily reminder that pic related is what SKG shills want unelected EU bureaucrats to do to video games.
>b-but we need the government to solve this non problem! it's the only way!

>>715010327
bot post

>>715010801
Really? I'm not the one spamming multiple threads per hour about some gay petition. Why don't you kill yourself you eceleb loving faggot?

>>715010924
Don't have a cow, man.

>>715001021
>>714995928
I remember when a bunch of dudes in a TF2 thread were moaning about how much they hated hats and the gay new weapons and the F2P cancer so he pulled the trigger on renting a cheap VPS in Finland just so he could host a private server for us that disabled all that shit right then and there in that thread.

It lasted for a couple years and it was some of the most fun I had in that game.

>>714982745 (OP)
>Ubisoft EULA demands that you destroy copies of your game and any physical copy you have if they stop supporting it
>This is pushed on you at point of purchase instead of letting you read it yourself and deciding for yourself
>There are “people” clamoring that this is fine and that you shouldn’t be able to play games you like anymore cause the company wants to sell a worse copy down the line that they will also kill
I would call you retards, but even they fight back when you try to take something away from them.

>>715010327
oh wow, the bottle cap can't get lost anymore.
Blessed EU.
Thank you doing this, we are all retarded, especially me and my wife's children.

>>714996381
>pedophiles support SKG
who wouldve thought? it's really just gamergate all over again lmao

>>715010327
the difference is that the bottle thing is annoying for everyone

>>715009882
stop buying them
>but but I can't stop consooming online DRM slop
stop giving Valve your money
>but I can't stop
>Valve saved PC gaming
>thank you Valve for always online DRM to protect me from myself
>Valve is basically like the EU

>>715011724
no, Karens love them.

>>714998704
There's already labels on the box regarding online play, anyway. They have no argument and went with one that was refuted decades ago.

>>714982745 (OP)
It takes their ability to milk you dry with microtransactions away.
That is the one and only reason.

>>715011548
>Ubisoft EULA
It's not just Ubisoft and it's not something they can even enforce but I guess it hit the front page of Reddit or something so it must be big news.

>>714982876
>competition bad
Who were the communists again?

>>715011762
>i dont like stop killing games
Then stop talking about it
>i dont like consumer rights
Then don't sign the petition

Vote with your vote :)

>>715011842
haven't seen anyone praise it personally but could be

>>714996381
guess they got tired of advertizing their favorite 2 view vtuber, still based

>>714982745 (OP)
if making dedicated servers is cheap and easy, why don't you just do it yourself?

>>714984020
>ask
>force
dishonest faggot

>>714983237
>you dont have any right to legislate that
I quite literally do

>>715012856
no, steamies are cattle without rights

>>714993483
What is an inalienable natural right? Rights don't exist in nature

>>715013089
you forgot the jew natural right to fuck over humanity, a little antisemite of you, anon.

>>715013212
>oh wow, look at this porn website
>I just have to have to rub my cock
>ahhhhhhhhhh
>wait, Jews forced me to coom

>>715013257
>yo free gas?
>shieeet ima pull up and sign right now fr
Thanks anon

>>714986537
Kys

>>714986418
I keep seeing this argument but show me a single example of that happening with unofficial servers. We're not living in the age of hot coffee anymore

>threads full of crabs in the bucket, shills, strawmen, and retards over something that would be a net positive for the user
And I wonder how many of them are even real

>>715014594
Why do so many SKG shills "argue" by saying that any doubts or concerns about their stupid eceleb movement must be from bots?

>>715013836
uh ? we all know jew is behind porn industry but why are you talking about it unprompted ?

>>715014724
A lot of those arguments are in bad faith and always have been. Its the same concern trolls that infest every thread with shit like this that is irrelevant >>715013257
"But what if...more GaaS?"
Then shit gets regulated to have better EoS plans and a exit for you to be able to play the shit that you paid for. Its a net positive and if the amount of GaaS happens to decrease or results in better service models then thats good too.

>wanting to play the same small scale multiplayer game in perpetually
I actually don't understand.

>>715013051
is this nintendo's legal department issuing takedowns for pages on their games on a game news site? what kind of mouthbreather would waste billable hours on that?

>>715014914
test

>>714982745 (OP)
>host private server
>charge people for cosmetics
>own smite now

Post your favorite online multiplayer games that you will be able to play UNTIL THE END OF TIME

>>715015381
AvP 2
I'd love if it got a GoG or steam release, if only to have a minor resurgence in the community.

>>715015369
>host private server
>disable all cosmetics
>pwn noobs now

>>714996381
based coomers

>>714982745 (OP)
Why did you use the word "ask" when you meant "force the government to mandate by law"?

>>714990025
Why should a business have the right to fuck over consumers when consumers are the only reason they are even ae to exist?
Neoliberalism is dead, the needs of the market do not take priority over the will of the people

>>715016040
That's the normal way private citizens ask faceless corpo cucks. You fags always complain that change.org doesn't do shit yet when presented with a solution that forces corpos to actually pay attention you act like this is literally north korea.

>>715016375
You are powerless commies. This is just a change.org petition with extra bells and whistles. Nothing's gonna change. It's all gonna end up in nothing because you're a bunch of entitled commie manbabies who think they have a right to dictate to developers how they can make their games.
If you don't like the games you play, grow up a little and find a better hobby.

>>715016723
If we are powerless and it's not gonna change anything, you don't need to be a terminally online bootlicking faggot.

>>714993483
You dont need a state to guard your natural rights moron, thats what's makes them natural rights and not civil rights.
The purpose of the state is multifaceted and complex, but one of its jobs is to address the power imbalance between the common people and the rich and influential - something that is achieved in part through consumer protection initiatives like this

>>714982835
>please let the mods know

>>715016040
We tried asking nicely and they refused, so now we are asking this way

>>714984156
People are stupid and need to be protected. People bought Hitman because they wanted to play Hitman, not because they wanted to be fucked over in the future.

>>714982835
Yeah how about i beat you and kill you how about that huh you janny cocksucking faggot piece of shit fuck you

>>715016723
>bootstraps status: pulled up

>>715017185
>guy calmly posts his (correct) opinion
>Anon has an autistic meltdown and threatens to murder him (a violation of US law and a bannable offense)
so much for the tolerant left

>>715016040
Oh you mean the years of people telling them to not be absolute shitheads and corpos going "yeah so i uh...am not gonna do that fuck you and die". So the instant something might actually happen to tell them to not be a shithead its too far? Kys

>>715017393
You will never be a janny

>>715017512
So? You will never not be an incel.

>>714983480
Saying "vote with your wallet" won't work anymore.
>its more that a company should have the right to pursue a temporary ownership model because they may want to incentivize people to move on to the sequel when the time comes.
That is evil shit. Pure bootlicking to imply it is anything else.

>>714998098
xe is right, people are mad because being open about sexuality challenges the status quo and you can't use people's desire against them if it's no longer repressed. corporations are so desperate to separate sexual content from everything else so they can drip-feed it to the populace through the proper channels.

>>714983226
And? That's their business model. if you don't like it then don't buy

>>715016723
>Nothing's gonna change. It's all gonna end up in nothing becAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>715017743
Don't like the petition? Make your own petition.

>>715017743
What's it to you? Don't like it then shut the fuck up.

>>714984156
>games like NuHitman were likely only able to get greenlit because of their proposed ownership model.
source: your ass

>>715017963
>>715018039
Are these bots? These posts just amount to "no u" but in ESL speak

A reminder of what they took from you

>>715018097
>I have no argument therefore you are bot and ESL
Good one, dumb fuck.

>>714986217
Corporations raised these people on ads and cancerous practices. They've blossomed into the perfect shills.

seethe

>>715018097
>retard asking for a fully developed and argumented pamphlet for his retarded one line zinger

>>714990369
>COMPANIES ARE NOW HELD LIABLE FOR THIS
No they aren't

>>714982870
>>714982835
you couldn't possibly make it any more obvious you're being paid to spam these threads the second they're made lmao fucking filth. One day, your name will appear beside your post. That will be the day you are brutally murdered.

>>715018151
Is this really too much to ask for?

>>715018163
I provided an argument and (You) didn't

>>715018403
Statistically, the best way to retain players is to force them on the mmr treadmill.

A happy gamer is one day satisfied, and will move on.

A perpetually mildly agitated gamer will keep on that treadmill if you space out the dopamine correctly.

>>715017963
>>715018039
>SKGtrannies are employing bots
like pottery

>>715018542
>what's it to you
>are these bots
Is the argument in the room with us right now?
>>715018760
Your mom is a pottery you fat bitch.

>>715018872
Are you gonna cry? Piss your pants maybe, malding SKGtranny?

>>715011762
>stop buying them
Damn. I can't buy ANY new games. Guess I'll just play something olde-
>I'm sorry. The game you are attempting to launch can no longer be authenticated by our servers. Click here to preorder the sequel
Well shit. I guess I'll play some pre online shit th-
>File has been removed due to a DMCA claim from Nintendo of America
Fuck videogames

>>715019239
lol, lmao. At least you tried.

This movement is just an excuse for right wingers to harrass queer and poc folks and send them death threats like in gamegater
DO NOT SUPPORT SKG
BOYCOTT SKG

>>715019239
Sorry but nobody is going get down to your level and imitate what you are doing right now.

>>715019332
>SKGtranny admitting they want to just steal games

>>715019660
please don't use transphobic language when arguing with SKG bullies, we're better than that, if you want to use those words you don't belong with us

>>715019758
Nice falseflag ross. Take your mold and go fuck yourself.

>>714987395
to be fair, unless you found proof that IW/sledgehammer/Treyarch deliberately sabotaging their old games. It's not really their fault for not supporting unsupported games.
Beside, the only CoD that matters (CoD BO3) did get fixed.

>>715016040
I'm not asking anymore. Hand over the binaries

>>714983228
>No one is going to compete with the official server unless said official server is complete dogshit
if they so choose no one can compete with official servers as long as there are official servers.
it logically doesn't make sense to fear competition from a game you shut down because it didn't have enough players.

>>715020056
Ever heard of a sequel?

>>715019817
>mold onahole

>>715020165
If the sequel isn't better, why bother making it in the first place?

>>715020265
Money.

If SKG is wrong then make a counter petition. Let's see how many signatures Keep Killing Games gets. Let democracy decide, or are you a communist?

>>715019660
If buying isn't owning then piracy isn't theft, simple as that

>>715020265
Something can be better and not be $60 better

>>715020440
So make it less than $60.

>>714991842
I did, now what?

>>715020553
...anon, that's literally an example of competition from an old game cutting into sales

>>714996381
Gelbooru has gone to shit, but still based.

>>715020227
moldahole

>>715019660
If I can't buy games that are available and I can't steal games that aren't then what? Just give up on videogames entirely?
Defeatists like you should just lay down in a ditch

skigger not have a melty when adults explain the law to them
challenge level: impossible

>>714982835
>begging for people to report someone
Not your personal army

>>714996381
fucking based and coomerpilled. Just because you goon all day doesn't mean you don't read the news.

>>715010327
I don't like the cap thingamajig because keeps rolling down to your hand / face when drinking, but no more are there bottle caps on the ground
My country pays for recycling the bottles, now that the caps are part of the bottle, all of the plastic is preserved for reuse, and there's less litter in the form of bottle caps

This whole thing is starting to feel like Sarkeesian 2.0.

You all say it’s about ethics or accountability or consumer advocacy, but at the end of the day, it’s just another excuse to dogpile someone you don’t like. First it was “he hates Stop Killing Games,” then it’s “he cheated at Animal Well,” now it’s “he’s a furry and cried one time”? You’re not fighting for a cause. You’re flailing for reasons to justify being cruel.

Same exact tactics:
Take clips out of context
Spin every emotional reaction into “proof”
Invent some sinister hidden agenda
Make harassment sound like activism

Anita said games affected people and got doxxed for a decade. Jason said review bombing doesn't fix anything and now you want him to disappear from the internet. Only difference is the side of the aisle doing the screaming.

You turned SKG, which started as a genuinely good idea into yet another purity test. If you’re not 100% aligned with the mob, you’re evil. If you disagree publicly, you’re a grifter. If you try to defend yourself, it’s “cope.” This isn’t consumer advocacy. It’s just GamerGate with a new coat of paint.

Jason never shut down a game server. He didn’t scam anyone. He didn’t mistreat his team. He spoke up about bad-faith actors weaponizing SKG and now you’re trying to erase his whole career. What the hell is that?

You’ve taken a movement about preserving games and turned it into a harassment campaign to destroy developers.

Congrats, you’ve become the thing you claimed to fight.

>>715021020
Pasta so stale even mold don't wanna touch it.

>>715020949
I've seen the exact opposite. Much more bottle caps and kids breaking them off and throwing them on the ground just as a fuck you to this change.

>>715021020
>now you’re trying to erase his whole career
Nobody cares about Jackson or whatever his name is. He's small time. We've got a world to save, here.

>>715021208
They weren't even alive when the bottle caps were normal, that's just zoomers being zoomers

>>715018398
>One day, your name will appear beside your post
Yea because of some EU regulation. Kill yourself you disingenuous statist.

>>715021020
>have you considered that the narcissist furry who Dr.K couldn't crack is actually Jesus
Well, that's a take.

>>715021693
Anon I'm pretty sure zoomers weren't born in 2024

>>714983228
You're stupid, because there doesn't have to be a private server while the official ones are up.
You are taking lies and validating them by pretending that they line up with reality.

>>715020794
>the law has settled on the matter
Great, then I'm sure you won't mind the EU making said laws explicitly clear and understandable to the layman. That is what SKG is for after all

>>715021208
Sounds like they're a bunch of crybabies who shouldn't be capitulated to

>just give us your server binary
>it doesn't werk
>okay, just give us your source code
>it also doesn't werk because 3rd party code is missing
>wtf
>just break copyright regarding the 3rd party code
>the commie EU demands it
Do you see how fucking retarded SKG is? You fags haven't thought this through for a single minute.

>>714983480
They do have that right.
They just need to make it clear that's what they are doing and put an expected date of termination when bought like any other service.

>>715023561
Lots of pasta around here. Feels like I'm in Italy.

>>715023561
or you could strike a deal so that the game remains playable after shutdown. that's actually how things used to work until (((live services))) arrived

>>715023561
How about just remove the authentication check so I can at least run the singleplayer?

>>714982745 (OP)
Because they don't want you to keep playing old games. They want you to keep investing in new ones.

>>715023940
Don't they have investors to invest in the new ones?

>>715023561
You're right anon these guys are actual morons lol they think they can get dedicated servers back. It's too far gone bro the corpos won, And Here's Why That's A Good Thing

>>715023785
Commendatore

>>714986537
>dont like it? dont buy it
You can't buy it. You only rent it for a year or two until servers go down and you are left with an unplayable client.

>>715026469
Developers have a right to make their games ephemeral. You're just an envious SKGtranny, mad that he isn't being catered to.

>>715022630
>there doesn't have to be a private server while the official ones are up.
Why not have them anyway?
Afraid those without a corp nanny in the chat will actually get more players?

>>715026650
And I have a right to petition the european parliament to remedy the situation.

>>714986537
>dont like it? dont buy it
>happy merchants flood the market with things you don't want and simultaneously purge all the things you want
Okay. Now what.

>>715027964
>happy merchants flood the market with things you don't want and simultaneously purge all the things you want
Already happening for some physical goods.

>>715027964
Easy. You make your own the way you like it.
Stop being lazy and entitled.

>>714982745 (OP)
Because then they'll forced to make something new years down the line, instead of comfortably sitting on an IP where some suit who was never involved in the project can entertain vague notions of "remastering" it later, to double dip.

Nothing's stopping these devs from opening up their silly battle pass or gacha games to the public. Nothing but their own hubris for having made a failed product.

Least they can do is make the few necessary changes to permit people who spent money on it, to still play the game they bought, long after the excecs decide to yank the life support.

>>715028146
Don't mind me, I'm just exercising my right to petition the government. You aren't trying to take my rights away are you?

>>715028497
>If you don't like it, don't vote for it

I think it's time for a good ol' fashioned Gurren Lagann rewatch. Attack the problem at its root, go for the throat. We're not helpless, we don't have to live in the dirt.

>Buy a book
>You own it fully, you can make backups as much as you would like too as long as you don't share, the Author can't take the book away from you at any time as is the law.
>Buy a movie
You own it fully, you can make backups as much as you would like too as long as you don't share, the Producers can't take the movie away from you at any time as is the law.
>Buy a music CD/Vynyl
>You own it fully, you can make backups as much as you would like too as long as you don't share, the Record company can't take the CD/Vynyl away from you at any time as is the law.
>Buy a game
>NOOOO GOY YOU'RE ONLY RENTING IT WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE IT FROM YOU AN OFFER NO REFUNDS TOO IF YOU DON'T AGREE YOU ARE THE DEVIL AND YOU HATE GAME DEVELOPERS

Yeah Im thinking the gaming side needs to change.

>>714983480
if they want to incentivise people to move on to the sequel they should make a good product. anti-consumer bullshit is not acceptable and i will always be in favor of banning it

>>715032559
Here's the funniest part. It's not illegal to lend a friend a physical book that you own to read, but it absolutely is "illegal" if you do it with a digital book. Strange, is it not? It's almost like the digital market is dominated by those that had gotten the foot in the door first and took advantage of complete lack of legislation, creating their own rules that diverge from the rules of every other industry, common sense or morality.

>>715023561
copyright stems from laws you know
>so you just SKG to kill copyright
well yes but that obviously wont happen, but arguing that its unpossible because the law says so is retarded

>>715032830
The law is the law. You don't just choose not to follow it, SKGtranny.

>>715033181
Eula is not the law. EU is the law.

>>715033181
EULA is not legally binding and in every case it was thrown out in court.

>>715033292
EU LAw, if you will.

>>714983237
>but you dont have any right to legislate that.
Maybe in your shithole fucking country but in the west we absolutely do.

>>714983381
Nobody mentioned Activision.
Well at least we know where the shills are coming from now. Great job, retard. You're getting fired for this one.

>>715033401
Shut the fuck up Carlos

>>715034575
Fuck you, sign my petition

>>714982835
>>714982870
>>714982876
kill yourself

>>715032559
No, the gaming side is better for the economy. It's the books, movies, music etc. that should all switch toward a rental license model, which they actually all are.

>>714991660
>"Please explain how this game was able to allow people host their own servers since 2007 with zero issue on technical and monetary side of the company"
>"MUH GROOMERS"

1.3 million today apparently. Pretty nice

>>715036414
Protecting the children is more important than your stupid tantrums over toys and stopping terrorism you mentally stunted manchild.

Why are publishers so worried about competing with their old products when they're already competing with literally everything? If I'm spending my time playing Chip's Challenge I'm not spending it playing AC Shadows

>>715036523
BERRY NAIISU

>>715036525
Thta's parents job, not the game companies.
Or if it the game companies job then I will sue the fuck out of them for raising me like ass.

>>715036525
Good point. We should protect the children from predatory business practices

>>715036525
maybe you should look at roblox first

>>715036525
>Consumer rights department should do the job of National security
Oh you poor, mentally underaged retard...

>>715036923
If you enable terrorist groups or child exploitation you get sent to prison. You stupid skiggers have no idea how the world works.

>>715036523
Speaking of which - I havent seen anyone mention these news ever since the botting allegations came up.

>>715033292
I see what you did there.

>>714982745 (OP)
It's fucked up. Anyone who has been playing vidya since fucking quake knows about private servers. I remember going on a 100 person quake server just to test if it was viable, it was fucking great. Somewhere down the line we just lost this ability. Fucking horseshit.

>>715037367
Then let natsec do its job then. Consumer rights is not their department, and does not hinder what they should do even in the slightest tangent, you narrow minded, dishonest fuck. Its got 59 departments for a reason.

>>714982745 (OP)
Because cuckold fetishists also have financial cuckolding fetishes.

>>714995928
>corpo shills are now trying to convince people who weren't there that players somehow hated player-hosted servers and welcomed matchmaking and heavily moderated official servers with a sigh of relief
>tries to sneak developers into the conversation as if you should give a fuck if they approve how you use your product

xeet from BeamNG CTO
lol?

>>714986537
>dont like it? dont buy it
>WAIT WHAT? NOT LIKE THAT YOU BIGO -*bankrupts*

>>715012028
>competetition just let me use your shit

>>715006489
I'm sure you'd love for that to be true, Ubisoft

>>715015381
You already posted TF2, so I have to post a close second

>>714982745 (OP)
imagine the rampant government overreach in having a world full of private servers

>>715040293
I'm more a fan of The Specialists, personally.
Fuck that weak-ass Double Action: Boogaloo shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSqvYioc658

>>715015381
CS:S

>>714982835
>Please let the mods

>>714982745 (OP)
You're brown

>>715028146
>You make your own the way you like it.
I like signning European Citizen Initiatives that will protect my consumer rights as a gamer. Oh, there already is a European Citizens Initiativethat i like? Time to sign it i guess.

>there are still kids posting that have not outgrown libertarianism and ancap memery yet
Count Dankula tier

They love their sanitized corporate-centralized server where trannies can steal your money just by autistically spamming reports against your player profile until the automated system activates

>>715040871
Any CS that has Nipper maps is fine by me.

>>715015381
>Unreal Tournament 99
>Unreal Torunament 2004
>Quake 2
>Quake 3
>Delta Force 3
>Rune
>Torchlight 2
>SWAT 4
>Heroes of Might and Magic 3
>Worms Armageddon
>Jedi Academy
>Carmageddon
>StarWars Episode 1 :Racer
So many games i can't list them all.

>>715041332
Epic delisted UT games so people can't buy them anymore. Epic killed tose games for anyone who would want to buy them legally. Thankfully the games are still in my GOG library.

>>714982876
I'm so tired seeing blatant lies and literal gaslighting from people and institutions one would expect to always tell the truth. Ngl seeing so much corruption (in a first world country!!!) makes me kinda wanna alt-f4 real life sometimes. I'm too weak for evil shit like that.

corpos dont like you having good games you actually own and want to keep you chained to paying for their seasonal slop.

at this fucking rate we will never reach 3 million votes and set a new standard

>>715021020
As he came into the window
It was the sound of a crescendo
He came into xer apartment
He left the moldstains on the carpet
Xe ran underneath the table
He could see xe was unable
So xe ran into the bedroom
Xe was struck down, it was xer doom

Jannie, are you OK?
So, Jannie, are you OK?
Are you OK, Jannie?
Jannie, are you OK?
So, Jannie, are you OK?

>>715041464
Epic actually GIVES THEM AWAY, for free you dumb fuck retard.

>>715021020
>"I'm an ex-blizzard developer"
(his dad brought him in as a QA)
>"I hacked a powerplant"
(he was part of a 10+ member of a team at DEFCON, largely doing nothing)
>"I'm a successful gamedev"
(finished games: 0, his developing game which started around 2016 -which was kickstarted- is still nowhere near done because he isn't actually working on it, he made a minor change on it recently because it was about to be hit by an abandonment tag by Steam Early Access)
>"I'm exceptionally smart"
(obviously using guides in puzzle games then acting like he figured it all out by himself)
>"I'm the best in [game]"
(deserts his team in WoW at the first sign of troube, deserts his guild in Ashes of Creation at the first sign of competent rivals, deserts duels in Ashes when faced with a competent opponent)
>Misinterprets (or maliciously misrepresents) the initiative
>Narcissistic, literally can't admit fault
>Doubles, triples and quadruples down whenever he is exposed

>>715041852
I *hate* retarded Steamies spreading misinformation about Timmy.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/classic-shooters-unreal-and-unreal-tournament-are-now-free-and-preserved-on-the-internet-archive

>>714984020
they're arguing your cawadoody 17 dedicated server would eat their cawadoody 18 profits

>>715041946
Also don't forget that his"""hacking""" career had nothing to do with l33t haxX0r shit finding software exploits or something.

No, he was merely a social engineer trying to get access via phishing mails and telephone calls.
Literally trying to lie and pretend to be someone else for money, so to speak.

>>715042127
Do you think he used a bass booster on the phone?

genuinely curious if any of these even work
especially brink

>>715042179
Certainly

>>715042127
>"""hacking"""
>pretending to be someone he's not
Wow, the narcissist is good at the one thing narcissists are known to be good at. Unfortunate it's not something he'd ever admit to.

>>715041762
u have 2 mice????

>>715042826
You don't?

>>714982745 (OP)
Stop spamming coward.

So will this finally get people to wake up and realize just how much corporations have taken from them? We could still have removable batteries and Micro SD Card slots back on mobile phones.

>>715023561
What will actually happen
>We're gonna use this library to handle this part
>What's the license?
>Custom one, there's a link here
>The new EU thing means we won't be able to share this come sunset
>Fuck
>Guess we need to find some alternative

>>714982745 (OP)
>Given the current rate, signatures will stagnate somewhere between 1.35M and 1.45M.
>Out of those, 850k-1200k are valid

Why are companies worried when there's still a chance the initiative won't have enough legit signatures?
It's very possible that even up to 500k signatures are invalid because they're botted, duplicate, have a typo, or are signed by someone who isn't of voting age?

>>714985014
>see WoW
They brought classic back and raked in the $$$.
Your point is moot and invalid. You're bin juice.

>>714983381
Nice schizo melty, anon. You need to talk to your therapist about better ways to manage your autism that doesn't involve lashing out and hitting yourself

The crazy part is not a single one of these shills has a coin in the pot. They literally do it for free (and some actually pay to do it). Can a psychiatrist anon explain this phenomenon to me?

>>714989250
And you think multimillion dollar companies can afford to buy a fucking Pi 5!?

>>715041852
Retard.

>>715043856
im signing 1000 times, am i doing this right?

>>714991860
>devs keeping servers running forever
For the last time Thor, there's 7 million videos explaining how you're retarded and a liar for claiming this is what SKG is supporting. There's an entire dedicated section of the movements well documented requests that specifically talks about this NOT being and NEVER being the case or the requirement. Seriously, why do you keep blantantly lying about this? It's discrediting your argument entirely and making you look incredibly stupid.

Pathological liars like yourself are incapable of not lying though so i guess I understand.

Now don't you have some Yandere dev tier code to write for your early access "game" you'll never finish?

>>714982876
Isn't planned obsolescence looked down upon in EU by the government? Why would you state it outloud?

>>715043856
Here's a message from the official server:
>>715037380
Theres a bigger chance of it passing than not, so they're in overdrive as a last fuck you.

>>715044248
Epic Games has given the OK for their 1998 shooter Unreal to be hosted on the Internet Archive, essentially making the classic sci-fi alien blaster free, and preserving it for the future. They've also given the same permission for Unreal Tournament to be hosted there too, making free the multiplayer muckabout that spawned speedier and speedier sequels throughout the early 2000s (not to mention the origin of one of the most memorable multiplayer FPS maps of all time, Facing Worlds).

cope

>>715044372
>no no, just give us the source code and make all assets free

>>715044421
Why doesn't Valve make their slop free?

>>715044421
So why are they not allowing GOG to host the game for free? Cus they are faggots, that's why.

>>715044536
Valve isn't actually pro-consumer. People often trick themselves into thinking that just because their DRM platform is convenient to use.

>>715044478
Also not the requirement, also again specifically pointed out that source codes are not required to be given out. Or are you so stupid you think you need the source code to run a private server?
Tell me Thor, are you capable of anything that isn't blantantly lying? Lying doesn't make people think you're right, it makes them think you're a deceitful liar, which i figured you'd maybe realize after your 50th controversy involving you being a self serving liar. For gods sake man you read the thing on stream and are still lying about the very words you read. Are you illiterate? That would explain your "coding" skills....

>>715044478
>just give us the source code
server .exe != source code

>>715044647
>cries
>sure its free over there but i want it free over there!!!

>>715044478
Yes, I deserve those.
Now that we have our starting positions made clear, we can enter negotiations.

>>715044751
>just give us any binary
>it doesnt work!!!!
>EU force them to give us source code
>btw. all assets have to be included and free

>>715044771
>fortnite has FortniteServer.exe

>>715044785
GOG has servers up for paid customers
if they made it free for everyone, there will be cheaters, plus who is going to pay for it? Epic is supposed to pay for it?

>>714982876
They will just out and tell you to your face that this is about planned obsolescence and that they don't want you to still be playing the game years down the road, and people will still try to say it's about prohibitive costs or some bullshit.

>>715044881
>it runs on Timmys private computer!!!
a child's understanding of computer tech lol

>>715044970
>yes, you see Activision switches off Call of Duty to sell new Call of Duty
>oh wait

Don't you guys have money?
Why play old games that should've been euthanized when you can play the demake a studio will release for ten times the og's price?

>>715044073
>not a single one of these shills has a coin in the pot
Who needs a pot when you shit in the street?

>>715044836
That won't be an issue (and wouldn't be an issue anyways but nice headcannon, liar) when you're designing your game from the very beginning with real end of life plans :^) Sorry kike Thor! Live service game grifters like yourself will have to get real jobs.
And before you pull another melty retarded lie, i want to add that this entire initiative would only apply to games that are being developed after (if) this is put into law. So at minimum, 5-10 years from now.
>Eu forces the source code
In your little headcannon the best case scenario is that europeans don't get Jewish games owned by kikes, oh no! What will they ever do??? I'd almost be jealous of them if that happened.

>>715045281
>Jew Jew Jew
>Kike Kike Kike
low IQ retard.
>just develop your games in the way I say
t. commie

>>715045339
SIE MUESSEN NICHT AMAZON CLOUD VERWENDEN
WENN SIE ES MACHEN WERDEN SIE IN KONEZNTRATIONSLAGER GEWORFEN
HEIL LEYEN

>>715045339
So when you're not lying, you just don't have a real argument? That's pretty funny, Thor! Now, your "game" isn't going to code itself and your McDonald's applications won't file themselves.

Also getting a good laugh at you shitting your fucking pants because i called out jews.

>>714982876
same reason the likes of Nintendo will sue you for even trying to use their IP in some mod
they even DMCA streamers

>>715045475
>it was real in my mind
>give us your Jewish source code!!!
>we *NEED* to play your Jewish game
meds

>>715045494
which is valid, because it's a copyright violation.
>but I'm a fan, I deserve to copy+paste Nintendo assets + levels
>please send "donations" to nintendo-fan@nintendo-fan-game.org

>>715044836
these kids just don't know about such thing as intellectual property, its a really hard concept for them

its probably the easiest route for RCE exploits which they can be sued over and litigation is scary

>>715045557
Yes, you should take your medication Thor. You might be able to actually get some coding done if you did that regularly....

>>715044771
>>715044881
>>715044979
Lots of server code is written in languages which don't compile into binaries/executables. So you'd effectively be forced to give backend source code because of the programming languages which are used.

>>715044836
>all assets have to be free
If the games still for sale, you'd still have to purchase it. If the games not for sale still on any platform, then being able to aquire it for free is morally correct.

>>714986537
Not if the law is changed

>>715045653
when has a game written in a compiled language ever had server software written in a compiled language? networking code has to be efficient.

>>715045610
running your own server of their IP is also a copyright violation and they wont let you do it

and it doesnt matter if its free, if it doesn't use their assets just a character or name - its still their IP and anal companies like Nintendo and Blizz will sue you

>>715045746
>I steal
>it's okay, I'm not a thief
>they must release all assets for free, including all 3rd party collabs, which surely will not be a problem
>EU force them to break NDA and copyright!!!

>>715045779
Lots of server code
Lots of server code
Lots of server code

>>715045779
*server software written in an interpreted language

>>715045805
The company said Scapegaming was "well aware" that its actions were unauthorized. The total award includes over $3 million in disgorged profits, $85.4 million in statutory damages and $64,000 in attorney's fees. Reeves had not responded to the suit, resulting in the default judgment in favor of Blizzard.

allows users to access the copyrighted World of Warcraft without using official Blizzard servers, circumventing subscription fees due to the game's creators. Operators of pirate servers can alter gameplay of copyrighted MMOs like World of Warcraft, such as allowing players to level up considerably faster than in the legitimate game.

The original complaint said Scapegaming would ask for "donations" from players -- but these donations were in exchange for virtual items ranging from $1 to advance characters two levels, to $300 for a pack that included a collection of rare items.

>I was *just* hosting private servers after the shutdown of the game
>oh wait
>I actually sold stuff and made profits

So you think you know better than publishers what to do with your games' servers?

>>715045617
>Muh ip copyright on muh 10-15 year old game we're delisting, shutting down and ending all physical and digital sales for
If you care about your intellectual property then simply continue to have the game available for sale. You're filling your diaper over people not having their games permanently deleted after the company shuts down the servers and proceeds to make the game unavailable for purchase from them, anywhere.

If you're not selling your game anymore, you're not allowed to have a freak out when people go through other means to acquire it for free.

Do you consider me modding a gamecube game to be copywrite infringement? Do you consider dolphin net play to be copyright infringement? This is what you are arguing.

>>714982745 (OP)
same reason the suits hate mods. no money is passing through their fingers.
anyone playing without paying is an afront to them. they objectively lose no money, but the ongoing costs of maintaining a game and its servers makss them feel owed a constant return.

ive talked to few execs about this in my time. one outright said "fucking pirates" when i brought up players wanting locally hosted dedicated servers. the disconnect is apparently quite large.

>>715045979
commies always do.

Only reason is they need to actually do something.
USA "culture" has caused that every company worldwide tries to do as minimal work as possible and then force themselves into the government to make it illegal to do something better.

>>715046029
>you need to sell it all the time in a way I want, otherwise copyright lost
commie mask slips

>>715045818
>you stole something that's no longer for sale and which has been made impossible to give the company that created it money for despite you being entirely willing to pay for it otherwise.
>having the game still available is asset theft and you're getting it for free
Holy smokes Thor, I didn't think you were *that* retarded.

>>715045979
Yes literally fucking yes, the fucking software is made only because of money and 1 passionate person can literally make everything better, you would know if you would have worked for a single hour in a software company. Everything is made as fast as possible go generate revenue and nothing else matters

>>715046169
Copyright quite literally has a hard deadline in capitalist countries, Thor. You don't need to continue to show everyone ITT how calcified your brain is, you've done a good enough job of that already.

>>715045779
>networking code has to be efficient.
Believe it or not, everything that's not exactly Python or Ruby is efficient enough to handle large network loads.

>>715045818
Fucking literal nigger retard COPYRIGHT AND NDA ARE BOTH CONTROLLED THE SAME WAY AS OTHER STUFF COPYRIGHT IS NOT GLOBAL AND IS JUST A WAY TO GENERALIZE LAWS AROUND OWNING STUFF FUCKING ILLITERATE NIGGER MONKEY

>>715045653
Bruh...

>>715045979
You're too late. Video games are on their way back to the people, and you can't do a damn thing about it.

>>715046197
>I can steal this Porsche, that isn't made anymore and not sold new

>>715046482
>stealing a Porsche deprives someone else of that particular car
>pirating a game deprives no one of anything

>>715046378
Sis...

>>715046387
glad, that you also want to shut down Steam.

>>715046618
>I'm not depriving anyone
>you can only get it used, therefore it's legal to steal it
>I totally care about le company, that's why

>>715045972
why is it so hard for you to understand it doesnt matter if its for profit or not, the law protects their IP period, they simply go only for the biggest ones

its like with piracy, doesnt matter if no one makes money, they still count it as lost profit "stolen" from them and can sue you and the law is on their side even if its bullshit

>>715046482
Computer code is not equivalent to a privately owned vehicle, Thor. I'll humour you though, you're claiming that if Porche dumped an old 911 in the middle of the desert for 15 years with no intention to ever collect it (and infact stated they never would) and no active private ownership of said vehicle outside of Porches copyright of the Porche brand, and I came along and took it that I would be engaging in malicious theft. You need to go to bed, your arguments are becoming so unhinged i'm beginning to worry for your health

>>714985014
>make two games
>shut down one of them
>now all of your revenue comes from one game which may or may not be as popular as the other one
Extremely retarded post, I'm surprised you got anyone with this shit, but then again people here are also retarded.
Activision still keeps old CoDs online because they still make shittons off microtransactions even if the game is so fucking bad people's PCs are getting hacked by playing it

>>715046664
>I'm not depriving anyone
Yes, you are literally NOT taking something away from another person when you pirate abandonware

>>715046681
>it's real in my mind
the lawsuit says otherwise.
>what's the problem that I make tons of money with the work of others??? it's my right!!!

>>715046727
>source code was dumped in the middle of the desert

>>715046906
You're low effort trolling.

>>715046974
>I wrote nonsense
>I get made fun off
>hurr don't troll me

>>715046029
They can sit on the IP not using it - its their legal right and they still wont let anyone else use it for free. You will never be given a legal protection to run a custom server with their IP like the petition wants.

You need to finally realize you are fighting not for 'games preservation', you are fighting for intellectual property, and they want consumers to own nothing.
All you get is limited use license they can revoke even while the game is still operating - ei personally banning you.

>>715046906
>computer code isn't in the desert, retard
That's an insane fallacy to make when you're unironically comparing the digital computer code of abandonware to physical assets like cars, but for the sake of your autism pretend I said "anywhere that isn't private property".
>>715047071
>you wrote nonesense
Again, says the man who genuinely thinks abandonware code is equivalent to out of production privately owned vehicles. If you're not trolling (which you are) you're mentally ill.

>>715047169
no, the point is that no one "dumps source code in le middle of the desert" or whatever, you fucking imbecile

also
>you lost your source code, that means you should lose IP rights
is just retarded.

>>715047169
>abandonware
doesn't exist, retard.
just because you pretend that something has no copyright owner, doesn't mean that it really has no copyright owner. It always does.

>>715047071
NTA but you've argued with this retard for an hour and the only argument you've made is some weird schizo shit about cars being like digital games. I hate SKGtroons but your retard nigger posts are pissing me off

>>715045746
piracy is morally correct
but still illegal

>>715047339
>load up dolphin emulator
>launch Battalion wars
>actively stealing their IP and game
>close the game
>no longer stealing their ip and game
Do indians like yourself really think this?

>>715047528
Just like anal rape...sad... many such cases....

>>715046115
You are French. Why do you think Americans speak like this?

>>715047339
>le
Go back

>>715044478
LOL wowie zowie tranon, post hand so we can all laugh at how brown you are

>>715047339
>have digital game I bought on my harddrive
>ctrl+V to steal an extra copy
>ctrl+V the game files until i've stolen enough copies to bankrupt shitty company
>do this to all game companies in existence
>destroy the gaming industry with 2 keyboard keys
You guys can thank me for my service anytime you like

>>715048160
HOLY SHIT BASED

>>715043856
Oh, it's because there is no fucking time to try and lobby against it. No one in the C-Suite thought this was even a possibility, but now are seeing the writing on the walls that even just starting the conversation could be the end of their scheme.

>>715047528
it's morally correct to bash your head in, fucking commie thief.

>>715047569
>sneak into cinema
>I stole nothing, I just got entertainment without paying

>>715044403
>Here's a message from the official server:
If the current count includes duplicate, fake or underage votes, then that message is meaningless. Obviously everything is speculation, but I'd assume that a campaign related to videogames would be swarmed with children or tech savvy botters to push the numbers.

>>715015252
to my eyes it sounds like a subcontractor fishing for commissions

>>715048471
You are French. Why do you pretend to be American online and why do you think this is how Americans talk?

>>715048160
I will to my lord be true and faithful

>>715049068
hey you, my murican military will murder your ass hoooohhaaaayyyyy ahhh burger meal now