What are your predictions?
>>714989746 (OP)K Rool late appearance seems obvious now.
I don't need any more revelations.
Child of Mario+Pauline is ridiculous, they're not going to canonize Mario sex.
It's just time travel or deaging magic.
>>714989746 (OP)I predict Kong Kino. Bought a Switch 1 for Odyssey. Bought a Switch 2 for Bananza
13 year old Pauline makes me ice cream and I eat it with trooneykong
>>714989868K Rool hasn't been seen in any DK game since DK64
They're not bringing him back
>>714990125You aren't welcome in this thread.
Donkey Kong is not woke.
>>714990125>They're not bringing him backthere are literally crocodile-shaped stone enemies, as a product of tons of crocodile fossils
why would the monkey villains build giant crocodile-shaped enemies?
and its fits perfectly with some kind of time travel or deaging magic to revive him
>>714989868>She's Mario's childKek. She's literally just a Rule 63 Mario character, and they'll popularize her with this game to replace Mario with a female equivalent brand, and milk it for femanons and cucksimps since everything has to be female protagonists from here on out.
>>714990296If they wanted to do that, they could still have her be Mario's daughter.
>>714989868>It's just time travel or deaging magic.No, idiot. It's a prequel. Quit taking meta gags seriously. Lore's for nerds who hate fun.
>>714989746 (OP)>K Rool is an investor in Void Co. Wants them to steal the Banana horde (Japanese dialog makes it obvious Cranky is talking about them) and tells them about the Banandium and the wish at the center of the earth, which needs TONS of Banana to get to. K. Rool wants to wish for ultimate power.>End of the game has Grumpy, Poppy and Void apologize to DK and Pauline for getting tricked. Void uses his magic banana to make Pauline normal again. Pauline's dream was to become Mayor of the city she grew up in and she tells DK that all of the Kongs are invited to visit anytime.>Last two transformations are Elephant, uses water jets both for attacking enemies from long distance as well as propelling DK into the air when there are no air currents for Ostrich to use. As well as Kremling, swimming and using strong jaw to more easily rip up chunks. Can also pick up and throw whole enemies instead of just chunks off of them.
>>714990515Nintendo cares about lore. Get over it.
Donkey Kong is a foundational Nintendo property, more important to their identity than Zelda.
>>714990687this fake leak was being spammed all month bro
>>714989746 (OP)pauline jrโs vocals are done by mori btw.
>>714990803I think Kate Higgins did the vocals, and Mori did the music.
>>714990710>Nintendo cares about lore.Nah, bro. That's the last thing on their minds. Be serious.
>>714991252I don't think Mori did the vocals, but if she was involved, it was probably her composing the music.
>>714989746 (OP)Gear 5 DK for the final boss fight
>>714991146They care about making a fun game first.
But they do in fact care about lore within the implementation of story beyond that.
It's a big part of the gravity and scale of their properties: the idea that Mario and Link are a serious part of gaming tradition
Donkey Kong while mostly dark aged, is fundamental to the Nintendo identity.
It put them ON THE MAP.
It is the game that made Nintendo.
>>714989746 (OP)Gonna be a low 80's game on metacritic since this doesn't have the mario bonus
>>714990710>zelda and pikmin just threw lore out the window with their last few gamesnintendo doing the same with any other property shouldnt surprise anyone at this point
Days after release, a Snoy will post "already forgotten" or something
>>714992142That one snoy is going to go nuclear IF the Pauline Jr. theory is confirmed.
>>714992035theres nothing in neo-zelda or pikmin 4 that conflicts with overarching lore
>>714990125>K Rool hasn't been seen in any DK game since DK64dk jungle climber and barrel blast
>>714989868>K Rool late appearance seems obvious now.why? I haven't been paying attention
>>714992464the monkey villains are building crocodile statue enemies out of the rock that contains the fossils of kremlings
ambiguously a large floating/carried rock behind void co in some trailer material that make contain his bones or be a placeholder like pauline's rock form
in combination with time travel or deaging magic for pauline, which may be the mechanism of his revival
>>714991407>It's a big part of the gravity and scale of their properties: the idea that Mario and Link are a serious part of gaming traditionhttps://youtu.be/IRsPheErBj8
>>714989746 (OP)I predict Pauline's loli feet in mouth
>predictions?
journos will love it
/v/ will hate it
after months of praise youtubers will start making "bananza wasnt great" videos
>>714993161You cannot do that.
What if she is Mario's daughter?
>>714993306its basically a guaranteed hit with the same format as odyssey
this is the odyssey sequel
>>714992761>in combination with time travel or deaging magic for paulineBro, you're acting like that shit's been confirmed. It's a prequel. Get over it.
>>714993404Cranky Kong is present while Pauline is a child.
Fundamentally doesn't work without some obtuse stretching of lore that would be equivalent to adding some kind of time travel mechanism.
Donkey Kong is fundamentally important to Nintendo lore.
It is the game that made Nintendo what it is.
That's not something they would muck about in or casually retcon without explicitly saying so.
When they're actually being very cagey and secretive about it.
Pauline was not supposed to leak when she did.
>>714993329They won't do that because they know how much people like the idea of Mario and Peach together. While you don't see it as much as the other side of committed relationships, people do still get mad if the guy sleeps around. The most they would do is make her a fangirl that likes Pauline and Mario, so she modeled herself as their daughter and calls herself Pauline. Or she is Pauline's daughter and thinks that Mario is her dad, so emulates him. They won't confirm who her father actually is if she ends up being Pauline Jr.
>>714993750What about how Pauline was flirting with Mario in Super Mario Odyssey?
>journalists will love it
>spergs on /v/ will make multiple seethe threads
>game sells well
>game gets nominated for GOTY but ultimately loses
>>714993946Because it shows how well their relationship is. Flirting doesn't always have to be romantic. It just shows that Pauline is comfortable around Mario. It's also just the devs having some fun, because of the old idea that Pauline used to be Mario's girl, so even if she did still have some lingering feelings, it doesn't distract Mario at all. He's focused on rescuing Peach, who he then proceeds to try to show his feelings towards after Bowser tries. So your argument kind of falls flat, since this isn't the kind of thing Nintendo would want to have associated with their mascot.
>>714994280But what if Miyamoto dies, and we don't hear how Mario's story ended?
They can still make more Mario games though?
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>>714989746 (OP)i predict pauline will say "this really was a bananza, a donkey kong bananza of you will"
>>714993698>Cranky Kong is present while Pauline is a child.Yes
>Fundamentally doesn't work without some obtuse stretching of lore that would be equivalent to adding some kind of time travel mechanism.It does because Cranky isn't DK. DK's DK. Doesn't matter what Rare says. They didn't create DK. Forget about the shit from decades ago. It doesn't apply.
>>714994794K Rool is the only enduring DK villain, even getting a Smash presence.
They're clearly cognizant of his relationship of DK to Mario as a property.
He's in the Mario movie, he's very uniquely been redesigned for Kart World and Bananza.
They're developing a plot around long lost Mario/DK character Pauline who is intimately integrated into DK's history.
I'm preparted to be disappointed.
But this game has so many references to even obscure DK properties and history, it's becoming absurd to imagine they've callously thrown the past out the window just to twist and coerce it into a new story.
It really seems like they want DK to be important again.
They're giving him an Odyssey-scale entry that brings back his primary villain while integrating it with DK's past.
Again and again and again.
DONKEY KONG IS THE GAME THAT MADE NINTENDO A VIDEO GAME COMPANY
>>714990687Itโs not unbelievable. Void Kong just doesnโt seem like a final boss. Why would they already reveal him if he was
Why did they give Pauline so many of Mario traits?
>>714989746 (OP)K. Rool hurts Pauline somehow and is subsequently mauled to death on-screen by DK in his ultimate gorilla rage form.
If he ever comes back after that, K. Rool will go the way of Wrinkly Kong and be a ghost in all future appearances.
>>714992761Dry K.Rool? Possibly made of (banana) gold?
>>714995280Too long, didn't read.
>>714997557Possible sure, but I think they want the vanilla or some vanilla-esque redesign.
They're teasing a DK movie in the vein of Mario's and as the most prominent DK villain they would want recognizability.
>>714992261>pikmin 4 retcons the rest of the series>totk retcons pretty much everything including the game its a sequel to.bananza ironically despite having some big contradictions would be easier to patch up than either of those other 2 time lines. the real answer for why those games are the way they are is because they just didnt care and didnt want any of that stuff to impede what they wanted to do
I would predict a review score of 93.
>>714992261BOTW and TOTK are officially severed from the rest of the franchise and each other.
Pikmin 4 is basically an alternate universe retelling of 1-3 that breaks very little new ground on its own, and it even includes the alternate version of Pikmin 1 as a side mode.
>>714993698>Cranky Kong is present while Pauline is a childeasiest explaination is pauline isnt lady and mario isnt jump man, which honestly makes a lot more sense.
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>>714994794This. The timeline makes perfect sense if you ignore the whole "Cranky is the original DK" thing because this just becomes a regular Odyssey prequel. The DKC games become about young DK on his island home, with the arcade games becoming about an older DK who has a kid of his own (DK Jr.) and goes to the big city. Bananza, then, takes place between them, no time/age manipulation needed.
>>714998940you're mom is a retcon
>>714994794>>714998903Your theory is gay and I'm not considering it.
>>714998903>tfw dk is just trying to hang out with an old friend
Why would Pauline start out as a midget who says "Hoohoo!", and then become a normal-sized person?
>>714999294sometimes when people age they get taller
>>714999085The ONLY thing it contradicts is Cranky's meta joke about literally being from the arcade days. That doesn't even make sense in context, since he was being as literal as possible about being a pixelated 8-bit character in a video game. Recontexualizing that as a ramblings of an old ape with nostalgia goggles makes more sense. It doesn't even contradict him being called Donkey Kong himself back in the day, just that he wasn't actually in an arcade game.
>>714999646I would sooner buy into the Pauline Jr. theory, anon. Sorry.
>>714990296>femanons>care about female charactersThey like cute boys
>>714999646>That doesn't even make sense in context, since he was being as literal as possible about being a pixelared 8-bit characterOdyssey is the one place that DOES make sense in context, assuming this is an Odyssey prequel
>>714999646>the ONLY thing that contradicts my theory that Nintendo decided to nonsensically violate their own lore for no reason or benefit is when a character outright confirms that my theory is impossibleother than that tho
>>715000307That's never stopped them before
>>715000307>Nintendo decided to nonsensically violate their own lore for no reason or benefitIf only you knew how bad things could be.
>>715000436>wanna see me retcon zelda?>wanna see me do it again?and again
and again
I predict it will get a ton of furry porn
if cranky kong was the character from the dk arcade then how old is mario?
are you ready for pauline bananza?
>>715000960>probably no candy Kong so all the porn will be gay or loli PaulineI donโt know if poppy Kong or Dixie will make up for it
>>715002396mario/jumpman is the same age as cranky since they were both babies in yoshis island ds
>>715002693Yoshi's Island is not canon.
>>714990125>K Rool hasn't been seen in any DK game since DK64>They're not bringing him backhe appeared in super smash bros ultimate.
>>715002813You aren't canon.
>>715002847You mean the game with Sephiroth and Banjo Kazooie in it? Maybe Sephiroth will be the villain
>>715003103The real villain is Pikachu, that's why the 'crocodile' fossils are yellow.
Mario lorelets, explain this?
>>715004592WTF IS THIS SHIT!!!!! DAMMIT!!!!!!!!
Wonder when we get our government mandated streamer that can barely function streaming the game early
>>714993750Wasn't Mario/Peach comprehensively torpedoed by Oddessy?
Bringing Mario back to his original GF after all these years makes a certain sense.
>>715005991You mean when someone livestreams the game before the street date?
>>714989746 (OP)Poppy Kong will face-turn over the course of the story
>>715005991they validate all game licenses through the online service once before you play it, even if the data is on the cart
they just automatically wouldn't let you start it
and might send you a funny letter or brick your console
>>715006865sorry not THE online service just online
>>715006865They let that one person play Mario Kart World early so we could see Rainbow Road.
>>714989746 (OP)I cant fucking wait. I predict a Bananza transformation that works as a drill, which you can aim in first person and then release to move into that direction, digging vertically and horizontally with speed and without destroying the whole area around (precision digging sections)
>>715006158>Bringing Mario back to his original GF after all these years makes a certain senseDamn, what happened to have Pauline take Peach's spot? What was wrong with her?
>>714989746 (OP)He just want to be monke
>>714990295>why would the monkey villains build giant crocodile-shaped enemies?Theres orher golden foms, so maybe just a reference
>>715006865I think that was only the case for MKW because the console itself hadn't launched yet, so hopefully it won't be the case with DKB, but we'll see soon I guess
>>715006865>source: i made it all up
>>714998903Pauline literally quizzes you in Odyssey about her being kidnapped by a giant ape and says it was a traumatic experience
>>715007407>I think that was only the case for MKWno, if you had both the console and the cartridge early you could play it without issues since the cartridge contains the necessary firmware update
>>715007418go plug a new cartridge in man
its the same mechanism as the game license carts
>>715007742are you retarded? I can buy a brand new switch and not connect it to the internet and plug and play mkw just fine.
>>715008017okay, if they aren't doing that then its cool
seems like a trivial thing to enforce, but neat
>>715008183We will see the cutscenes before the street date.
>>715002396Don't monkeys age faster than men
>>715008429everybody moves through time at the same rate brother
they just have a different lifespan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8_x0wdst84
this guy says the controls are kinda different
different buttons for punching up and down and forward, and nintendo slipping in another gay attempt and moving the jump button but fixable in options
>>714998680>Pikmin 4 is basically an alternate universe retelling of 1-3 that breaks very little new ground on its own, and it even includes the alternate version of Pikmin 1 as a side mode.Tbf Pikmin 4 is likely a prequel to Pikmin 3.
>>715000307>>714999975Fucking nerds, I swear. You lot got zero self awareness, don't ya?
>>715002693That was regular DK
>>715008751Sorry I made you mad.
Krool
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So is he in or not?
The first Donkey Kong game in ten years being an Odyssey sequel is basically the nightmare timeline. Picrel is by far the worst 3D game in the series, and this looks to play similarly with all the stars just sitting around behind walls or around cliffs.
>>715008660>video uploaded 41 minutes agoBlatant self promotion
>>715009430common enemies are revived kremling skeletons
>>715009546nah i just watched a few of his other ones so it showed up in my algo quickly
>>714989746 (OP)It's not worth the $600 entry price.
>>715009606That doesn't answer my question, is King K. Rool himself in the game? They've had games with 'Kremlings' and not him before.
>>715009798nothing confirmed but plausible
>>714990125There hasn't been a 3D Donkey Kong game since DK64, either.
He got into Smash. Stranger things have happened
>>715009798I want his wife, he said he has one in DKC3
>>714989746 (OP)Teen Mario appearance at the end of the game.
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I approve the big pant supremacy
So this is a good game for an 8 year old boy right
>>715011420I don't see why it wouldn't be
>>715011498Seems like the manchildren here are way too hyped about it so I was just second-guessing the purchase
>>715011669Fuck off faggot, someday your life will revolve around something other than video games too. Just kidding, you will die alone and childless and be a disappointment to all your ancestors lmao
>>715011838I have done nothing wrong.
I am just trying to get people to discuss a very important game.
I get that you loved the Wii U, and I'm sorry that things didn't go your way.
But you don't have to be mean to people just because you got hurt.
>>715012153The last DK game I played was on SNES lol
Sorry the truth hurts, autist.
>YFW loli have to leave monke behind
>time travel
>de-aging magic
>it's pauline's kid
It's a reboot.
No way they're going to have this whole story of Pauline coming out of her shell, pursuing her dream of singing with the help of dk and not some stupid root, only to be like - oh actually she was just turned into a kid by void co haha she already was a successful adult.
I think that Pauline Sr. would leave Pauline Jr. in the care of Donkey Kong, so there can be more Donkey Kong and Pauline games.
>>715012489Nintendo would tell us it's a reboot.
It is likely that Pauline Jr. wants to sing like her mom, but also has magical powers like Mario.
>>715012489theyre intentionally secretive with the limited story and havent just straight up called it a reboot
>needs loli feet to push game in japan
embarrassing and dis-fucking-gusting
>>715012734you're a retard whose idiotic suzanne fanfiction got btfo. You got laughed out of /vg/ and we're laughing at you here
>>715012489It's an odyssey prequel about Pauline and how she grew to love singing. It's not that deep everyone
>>715014039Do you not realize how that contradicts Super Mario Odyssey and the game that founded Nintendo?
>>714989746 (OP)I think everyone will be disappointed on some level, for different reasons.
>>715014325No. Please explain, because I don't see how. Also (I know it's you because of this) you are placing way to much significance on an arcade game from 40 years ago. I'm more inclined to say the original mario bros or the legend of zelda would be regarded by the people at nintendo to be more significant
>>715014893Nintendo is aware that fans would be very upset if a Mario-adjacent game contradicts the game in which Super Mario made his debut.
For Zelda and Pikmin, it doesn't matter as much, because those aren't Nintendo's flagship franchise, nor are they connected to it.
>>715015162Donkey Kong is not a "flagship franchise". Do you even know what that means? Hint: it's not "the game that came out first". And you still didn't say what evidence contradicts super mario odyssey. Pauline's presence as someone who grows to love singing is a pretty big tell.
>>715009536999 moons in the game and you still bitch and maybe a few that are easy and in plain sight.
>>715015326>Donkey Kong is not a "flagship franchise"It will be in 8 days
Also Zelda certainly also is, both you and the guy you replied to are retarded.
>>715015547Super Mario is their flagship franchise.
>>715015432I literally can't think of any moons that aren't just sitting around or require a trivially easy action like waiting for a dog to dig it up or collecting music notes which are copy-pasted in every world.
How old is Pauline supposed to be in Mario Odyssey anyways? If sheโs like 20 there and 13 here itโs not really a big deal if this game takes place earlier in time.
>>714989746 (OP)My predictions are that itโs gonna be an incredibly short tech demo that weโll have the privilege of paying $70 for.
>>715016062I think she might be older than Mario, like, probably in her 30s.
>>715015547what did I say that was wrong?
>>715015636Correct. However Super Mario =/= Donkey Kong
>>715016242She looks like 27 at the oldest. Japanese portray women in their 30s as wrinkled. Even if this game is 15 years earlier than Odyssey doesnโt really seem like a big dealโฆ
Mmmmh that's good tendies tism.
>>715016913Super Mario is from Donkey Kong Arcade.
>>715017107You are not allowed to be in this thread.
Please get out.
>>715017186Sorry, sir, I'll see myself out.
>>715017186Nah I can't play windwaker right now so I'm going to laugh at you.
>>715017153ackshually that's jumpman. I can do this too
>>715017625It was retconned to be Mario in the Donkey Kong Arcade remake for the Game Boy.
I am tired of pretending
K. Rool won't be in the game nor should he be
>>715017794Okay so why can't you accept that bananza is retconning rare-era lore :)
>>715017889Because when DK '94 retconned DK Arcade, that was back when Nintendo was still trying to figure out what Mario's story was.
They established early on in Mario's history that he was the protagonist of Donkey Kong Arcade.
That retcon did not result in contradictions in the timeline.
Retconning any lore established by Rare, under Nintendo's supervision, would result in contradictions in the timeline.
>>715017889its retconning the entire DK lore
>>715018263Hopefully, nothing is getting retconned.
>>715018118>muh timelineGenuinely if you're autistic enough to be posting 24/7 that "THIS CAN'T BE YOUNG PAULINE FROM ODYSSEY THE TIMELINE DOESN'T FIT AIEEEE" for a game made for like 10 year olds you should be medicated
>>714989746 (OP)>What are your predictions?I'm expecting us to reach the planet core, however many layers down that'd be. And we'd get some kind of ending scenario play out there for some kind of climax.
But my prediction is that it will only actually be like the halfway point, more or less like the first ending you get in Odyssey, that you get really early comparably to all the content in total the game has.
So much like Odyssey, that pretty had twice as much game left after the first ending, I expect the "postgame" so to speak of Bananza to involve you continuing to dig down (or would it become up?) beyond the planet core, until you've eventually dig through the entire planet and emerge on the opposite end of the entire planet. Where we'll actually get to experience the real end of the game.
>>715018263The "lore" in questions just being whether one Cranky Kong is the same as another iteration of Cranky Kong where I'm sure the decision in the writing room was "Wouldn't it be funny if we made DK old and put a reference?"
>>715010441>I want his wife, he said he has one in DKC3Imagine
>we get to keep cool kremling enemies and lore>we get a sexy lizard lady >gay barafags blown the fuck outThey're already pandered to enough with the DK and the gayfurry transformations. Let us at least get a female Kremling big bad instead of K.Rool.
>>715014893Pauline references in odyssey the time she was captured by DK and even states it was a traumatic event
That kid would be lousy with lice after getting near the ape.
>>715018468The dark part at the bottom of the original image is the "core" as far as this game is concerned.
Spamming the attack button every time you want to just get a banana is going to get old really fast, isn't it?
>>715019220then dont buy the game then nigga
>>715018973>louse-yi c wut u did thar
>throwing the cap every time you want to do something is going to get old real fast, isn't it.
>>715019135>>715019248this still technically fits with their introduction to each other in bananza
pauline as the rock is running away and dk catches her
>>715018727void kong is an ape
>>715019220>pushing buttons to progress through this video game is going to get tiring isn't it? This is how retarded you sound
>>715019248I stand corrected. I still don't see how it can be anything than an retcon into odyssey prequel though. Every other possibility is even more farfetched.
>>715019220Mashing the attack button is something gamers never get tired of doing
>>715019379I mean how almost every other platformer in existence lets you just get the collectible by touching it. It's faster!
>>715019420Arbitrarily making Pauline a little girl to be your companion in a big budget Donkey Kong 3D action platformer is a little farfetched but Nintendo went ahead and did it anyway. I don't know why you're so insistent that it has to be a prequel, as if that isn't also leaning into timeline fuckery
>What this character driven story about DK opening up Pauline's heart and helping her chase her dreams and become a singer needs is a reveal that... she actually already achieved all of that already, but was just turned into a child for whatever reason..!
Bananza retcons DK and Pauline's dynamic from being a villain to a hero. Cope and Sneed.
>>715019541Not Ape Escape.
>>714989746 (OP)MY DONG EXPANDING.
>>715020337Then the two theories that are plausible are the time-traveling Pauline theory, and the Pauline Jr. theory.
>>715020337we already know she achieves her dream from odyssey though
>>715020397Ape escape presents a challenge, you gotta catch the monkey. There's nothing challenging about mashing punch against a stationary object.
>>715012302/v/ hates videogames
imagine my shock
>>715020558It's a game about smashing things. It would feel anti climatic if you collected the main collectable by just bumping into it. There's like 3 other collectibles that you just walk into. Cease your concern trolling
>>715021406>No you HAVE to like the only other game that came out for the $450 console, never mind the first game was shit and there's no Mario or Zelda on the horizon!
>>714990803I don't believe this because mori's voice isn't nearly as eargrating as pauline's
>>715002487im gonna need sauce, boss
>>715021231No, just that one schizo.
>>715022164Press the buttons near your post number or the triangle next to it.
>>715017880and what if he is??
>>715022704then I will become big monke and punch him
>>715022781>it's a boxing match in a call-back to his DK64 boss fightWould be kino
>>715008672Sacho clearly went to earth in pikmin 3 since he builds a snowman of himself. 3 also follows the aesthetic of 1 & 2 while 4 is completely different
>>715021231Nah I hate autistic dorks that have no life outside of vidya fantasy land and the minutae they obsess over
>>714989746 (OP)I can't believe I'm getting excited for a video game in 2025.
>>714989746 (OP)GEAR FOURTH
BOUNDO MAN
>>714989746 (OP)https://youtu.be/_NGanS65NMc?si=iIfXm8TyKWY5cL6t
After a long absence, K. Rool will return in true Rare fashion: already dead and raring to kick your ass.
>>715026482Whatever helps you sleep at night faggot!
I'm so happy K Rool is in the new DK
>>714998903This would also make Bananza a bridge between the DKC games and the arcade/Super Mario series. I like that idea.
>>714989746 (OP)>k.rool gets resurrected as an ancient evil, along with his kremling army>he becomes giant and strong>dk fights him>jobs after the first phase before getting a super form that turns him giant too>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqf8jID9TsE plays and pauline says that k.rool can't have their island because it's donkey kong's country
>>715019135>>715019248Letโs not forget about this reference either.
>>715019248This doesn't contradict anything. Bananza would clearly take place before the arcade games, Mario vs DK, and Odyssey if Pauline is a child. Basically the timeline goes:
- Retro's County games
- Bananza
- Arcade/Mario vs DK
- Odyssey
>>715031556Completely invalidate any friendship between Pauline and Nu-DK by having it result in DK kidnapping her. Nice.
I'm actually excited for it
>>715026918HOLY SHIT THE SKELETONS MAKE WAY MUCH MORE SENSE
Are those bananas growing out of his head?
>>715020337Or they just decided to ignore the events of the arcade game entirely
>>715032789The arcade games take place many years after Bananza. DK showing up in a city to meet adult Pauline could easily lead to a misunderstanding.
There's also DK '94, which presents the events as a stageplay, akin to SMB3. Later Mario vs DK titles even show Pauline working with DK to mess with Mario. Their relationship seems fine.
>>714989746 (OP)>DK and Pauline beat K rool>they go to New Donk City after Pauline makes her wish at the planet's core>upon arrival the credits roll while theres a musical festival with all the characters interacting one more time>just at the end, after the last credits, someone with a red cap comes out of a pipe>sudden silence while everyone stares at him>just when you think Mario will be revealed, it turns out to be Shigeru Miyamoto with Mario proportions>music goes on, everyone cheers and they give him the spotlight with a mic to sing the final notes>He smiles to the player and after clearing his throat, he says"we're all gonna die one day">Thanks for playing!
>>715019248Pauline actually looks REALLY good in that suit ngl
>>715002847>>715009994Smash bros doesn't mean squat for K rool and isn't a DK game. Didn't do anything for Banjo and others either.
It looks like shit
It'll be a 7/10 with the Nintendo bonus at best
>>715031319As if there was ever lore.
>>715033734>he got filteredlol
Theres no lore you fucking fucks, if anything it will be a prequel to Odyssey
>>715033734dumb console war tard
>>715021406Man I love this whole havok physics Nintendo EPD era.
I want DK to fuck me in my asshole while Pauline watches and laughs at me.
final boss is mario, you recreate the donkey kong arcade game. Pauline didnt want to be saved, DK was protecting her from mario
bowser with loli peach companion when?
>>715034251Having you control DK in a recreation of the arcade game during the credits would be pure kino
>>715034278Why?
What happened?
I played the demo, it feels really fun to control DK, Im going to play all the story first and then Ill take my time to 100%, hope it has some challenging post game
>>715032789He's kidnapped her in the DS games and she was fine with it. To be fair to Donk, he's extremely retarded.
>>715034513When I use a toothpick, and I smell it, it reminds me of a chicken coop
>>715033734>It looks like shitThe clip would be like showing someone find an Agility Orb in Crackdown and being like
>LOOK HOW SHIT THIS GAME IS ALSJFLKJLKDSGJKLS
>>715034784Minis March Again also has Pauline and DK stage a kidnapping just to fuck with Mario.
>>714989746 (OP)super saiyan rape correction?
>dunkeykong the trans ally simping for a girlboss
yeah no thanks, i prefer my niggers redpilled
>>715035663we speak english here
uhmmmm but theyre not called kremling skeletons theyre called CROCOIDS we know this for a fact
https://youtu.be/2TSeAk_aTes?si=AUP1CepzaU7ANtPL&utm_source=MTQxZ
Cant wait to mess around with the physics for a bit, this game will be the most fun playground of the year
>>715031556>>715033542>>715035103>The arcade games take place many years after Bananza. DK showing up in a city to meet adult Pauline could easily lead to a misunderstanding.It's a de-aged pauline or anything that's not a prequel, idiots. Cranky kong is clearly in Bananza referencing arcade kidnaps.
New Donk City crates are also in bananza.
>>715036173Cranky Kong makes tons of meta jokes all the time. It doesn't mean anything. Ditto for NDC in Bananza, as Pauline is just the mayor not the founder. It's obviously a prequel if you've seen the bananza elder cutscene as Pauline acts like a child.
Nintendo gives zero shits about Rare's Cranky "lore". They retconned it in the movie. They don't bring it up in the theme park or the Retro Studio games. The entire Mario vs DK series shits all over it. Let it go already.
>>715037068>Cranky Kong makes tons of meta jokes all the time. It doesn't mean anything. Ditto for NDC in Bananza, as Pauline is just the mayor not the founder.Sounds like extreme cope.
>>715037068cranky being physically there alone btfo prequel tards, mario vs dk series post gameboy is also modern dk, and the movie is a different continuity
>>715037263More like pointing out the obvious.
Oh wait, sorry I guess the whole "actually, Void Co built a time machine to kidnap Pauline in the past instead of just kidnap present day Pauline" makes more sense. Or wait, how about "Void Co wipes Pauline's memories, but only very, very specific memories about her confidence in singing and knowing DK! Then they transform her into a child and then transform her yet again into a rock!" Because Nintendo would never ever ignore or retcon the sacred Rareware lore of Cranky, that just doesn't make any sense. It has to be a sequel instead!
>>715037946You sound upset by something.
>>715037946>N-Nintendo doesn't care about lore!!!!!!!!>ok so the possibilities are endless and can easily have a de-aged or time traveling pauline->WAIT NOT LIKE THAT
>>715037946Or maybe, just maybe, she is actually Pauline Jr. and is Mario's daughter.
>>715037443>cranky being physically there alone btfo prequel tards, mario vs dk series post gameboy is also modern dkCool, now explain to us how Pauline being in her early twenties in Mario vs DK next to what you're saying is the fully grown grandson of the ape that kidnapped her in the arcade games makes any sense. Or is Mario vs DK also a different continuity now?
>>715038130She started out in her 20s when Cranky kidnapped her in DK '94 (Arcade), and then when Donkey Kong kidnaps her, she is in her 30s.
>>715038130>Cool, now explain to us how Pauline being in her early twenties in Mario vs DK next to what you're saying is the fully grown grandson of the ape that kidnapped her in the arcade games makes any sense. Or is Mario vs DK also a different continuity now?cranky kong ages fast, common knowledge, you do know mario's not a old man in any of his games either right?
>>715037875Some people just get irrationally pissy about story/lore in Nintendo games.
>>715038105Man, that joke really flew over your head, didn't it?
>>715038316Joke deflection isn't a point.
>>715038316more like it got buried under all the yapping you attached to it
>>715038214Both Pauline and Mario are canonically in their early twenties within the Mario franchise. She's not in her 30s.
>>715038215>cranky kong ages fast, common knowledge, you do know mario's not a old man in any of his games either right?Nice headcanon. And yes, Mario and Pauline still being in their twenties was the contradiction I pointed out, did you have an actual answer for that?
>>715038523Ponytails doesn't look the same at all. But now I'm noticing Pauline Jr's M for Mario.
>>715038523Junior is the more powerful child due to have three ponytail tufts as opposed to Pauline's two.
>>714989746 (OP)I predict tons of loli Pauline hentai.
>>715038496>more like it got buried under all the yapping you attached to itYup, sounds just like all the retards spouting about deep DK "lore". That was the joke bud.
>>715038582>Nice headcanon. And yes, Mario and Pauline still being in their twenties was the contradiction I pointed out, did you have an actual answer for that?not headcanon, modern DK and cranky kong exist at the same time with many examples, so there's no other way to explain it, kongs just age faster
>>715038640do italian women often have widow peaks?
>>715038765bro is beefing with monkeys
Lorechads, they'll reveal it was a deaging plot all along and it will all make sense don't worry.
>>714989746 (OP)Diddy replacing Pauline for the final segment where you actually get to use Diddy's jetpack to replace the Bananza stuff. Like a rocket-charged punch, flying around and using the jetpack underwater because why the fuck not.
>>715039070I'm the Pauline Jr. theorist, and I will be fine with it.
I just want Nintendo to make it make sense.
>>715038765>>715038316>I was pretending to be retardedYour lore yapping
>>715031556 is way more nonsensical since it's pure headcanon while our DK lore has actual proof with cranky kong and new donk items being in bananza.
>>715038779>not headcanon, modern DK and cranky kong exist at the same time with many examples, so there's no other way to explain itThe movie explained it just fine with Cranky simply being DK's dad. That sounds more logical than Cranky aging into an old man, his son also growing up and having a kid, and that kid becoming a full adult in less than 4 years.
>>715002396they will retcon Jumpman into their gramps
then the next game will take place in New Donk and it will be about Mario and Luigi getting their first plumbing job as the Mario Bros (literally the name of the arcade game).
Then once you defeat some evil underground civilization and beat the game, the title will change to:
Super Mario Bros. 0
>>715039170>Monkeys and humans age at the same speed
>>715039170Yes, a gorilla in the equivalent of its 20s could become elderly in the span of 13 years.
>>715037946holy shit they put a gender reveal in bonanza?
how the fuck aren't we boycotting this yet?
>>715039251Gorillas live 50-60 years in captivity, sometimes even more reaching near 70. Their lifespan is pretty close to a humans. It also takes 12+ years for a newborn gorilla to reach adulthood.
>>715038640she;s ovulating
>>715036142I'm impressed by the deformed terrain seemingly having proper shadows.
>>715039604So this here is Cranky in picrel, he is well into adulthood, like, maybe 13 years later, he becomes elderly.
Or maybe Donkey Kong Country takes place 26 years after the events of DK Arcade/'94, so him being elderly then makes more sense.
But then that means Mario and Pauline would have aged 26 years, which they obviously haven't, so that would be ruled out.
This probably means that Cranky was retconned into being DK's father instead of his grandfather.
>>715039895Or maybe DK is just DK. Rare's Cranky lore doesn't really work beyond their own DKC games.
>>715036126Patiently awaiting Count C. Rock
>>715008672Pikmin 3 as we know it canโt fucking happen after 4 since it makes references to the original and 2 storyline and makes no mention of moss, oatchi, or any Pikmin 4 elements.
Honesty never cared for the idea of the person cranky fighting and kidnapping in arcade dk being current Mario and Pauline because why would only he follow realistic gorilla aging logic in this cartoony game franchise. No other character has physically aged besides him.
ive noticed no one talks about the gameplay in these threads. i wonder why...
>>715042032The rainbow chunk mechanic looks fun
>>715026918>Banandium is an element that can make living things stronger if the bananza transformations are any indication.>It's so potent, even dead shit gets revived in a zombie like state.>The root can almost fully resurrect someone.>Void Co. has been employing brain dead Kremling skellies since they're very numerous the closer you get to the core.>Zombie lord K.Rool wants to use the wish to turn everyone undead like him and his crew.>DK has to team up with the Void crew to stop a zombie apocalypse.
When Donkey Kongs get old they become Cranky Kongs, when Donkey Kong Jr's get old they become Donkey Kongs. It's not complicated.
>>715042280>necromancyDECAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>715011838I have children, a wife, a house, 2 cars and a job in pharma.
I'm looking forward to Donkey kong
Nintendo doesn't not give a fuck about continuity between games except for like Metroid, not sure why people don't understand this
>>715038654It already exists.
so....... why did DK kidnap Pauline when she's older and Mario ends up having to save her?
>>714989746 (OP)Trash for toddlers
>>715044358toddlers *and pedophiles*
>>715042032maybe because the game isn't out and we already discussed them as the mechanics were shown and can't really discuss more until the game is out, tard
>>715034234straightest and least mentally ill tendie
the only thing wrong with this game is that DK goes around with pauline instead of a cute shota
>>715046217Loli better because lolis have cunnies
>>715046310shotas are better because they have little bananas
Why is /v/ suddenly filled with Ninpedophiles?
>>715048468/v/ has always been dominantly pro-nintendo
since the beginning
i would know
im a ps3 console war vetera
>>715048468The game is coming out soon.
>>715038640Do you think her pussy hairs have a little mustache, too?
>>715043445DK is still a dumb animal that just does what he wants. He wanted to hang out with his old friend Pauline and Mario only saw a gorilla stealing a woman. The only retcon is that Pauline wasn't screaming HELP during the events.
>>715026918I legit think young pauline and the undead kremlings explain each other
>banandium has life giving properties>pauline is encased in banandium, becoming odd rock and regressing in age the longer she stays like that, technically giving her more life>kremling skeletons are encased in banandium, becoming crockoids aka undead kremlings if left in for long enough, could potentially become fulky alive again
>>714989746 (OP)Why the fuck is there some kid with him? Is this like a Yoshis island spiritual sequel?
>>715051964You don't know what her kinks are. Maybe she was?
>>714993750Mario and Peach never went anywhere and is completely forced
>>714992464>>714992761The flying enemies are also wasp-like which would indicate that they are also enemies using fossils of Zingers, another prominent Kremling-affiliated enemy, as well.
Based on the posts in this thread I can tell Snoys are very scared of this game
>>715059237Well, technically, it's just one person.
>>714997363DK HARAMBE NOOOO!!
>>715059757>let's have sex>no i won't drink your cum>w-will that fit?>it sure did!
I had low enough expectations to back out of my preorder but eventually I became convinced enough to just not set any expectations and come into it with a neutral mindset.
So we'll see, I guess.
surprised no one linked the interviews
https://www.ign.com/articles/our-big-bananas-interview-with-the-developers-of-donkey-kong-bananza
https://www.ign.com/articles/donkey-kong-bananza-exists-because-yoshiaki-koizumi-asked-the-mario-odyssey-team-for-a-3d-donkey-kong-game
https://www.ign.com/articles/donkey-kong-bananza-leads-say-the-reason-pauline-is-13-years-old-specifically-is-for-the-player-to-puzzle-out
https://www.ign.com/articles/donkey-kong-bananza-was-originally-a-nintendo-switch-1-game
key takeaways
>producer is Motokura (director of Odyssey) and newblood Takahashi
>Koizumi wanted a 3D DK game
>originally planned for Switch 1
>>715020061Spanking DKโs Cheeks like Bongos
>>715061678Neat, I was waiting for this
>>715062337I'm glad that they're getting new blood while keeping the old guard
>>715044782>tardHe's far from a tard given the shit that's been posted in these threads. Nintendo is being too secretive with this game, which may bite them in the ass.
I predict itโll be a very short tech demo for the low low price of $70.
>>715061678>Takahashi: Certainly because a lot of team members also worked on Super Mario Odyssey, there are some similarities in terms of how they think about the setting of the characters for both games, but it's something we really can't explain all of for now because we need to leave something for people to consider as they're playing the game. what did he mean by this
>>715061678>originally planned for Switch 1What the fuck have they been doing if every game in the launch year of the Switch 2 was originally planned for the Switch 1?
So what is going to be the first real Switch 2 game? Did they not tell anyone in their fucking company they were making a Switch 2 until last year or something?
>>715023893Make it like Wii Punch Out for extra kino
>>715062728anon, that's a good thing. would you want a hampered game? also the interview makes it very clear Mario is in the works
>>715062653I think he soft confirmed Odyssey and Bananza are part of the same "timeline"
https://www.theverge.com/nintendo/703468/donkey-kong-bananza-developer-interview-switch-2
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/rs-gaming/donkey-kong-bananza-devs-explain-pauline-1235380842/
more interviews, but archive them if you don't want to give them clicks
>>715062462this
they're starting to do what gamefreak does where they announce something and then it's fuck all radio silence until the game comes out
> Yes, it's Pauline riding on the back of Donkey Kong who's big and strong and Pauline's kind of a small, younger character. In Wreck-It Ralph, you have Vanellope riding on the back of this big strong fellow who can smash through things.
>Motokura: Yes, as it turns out, from a very early stage in development on Donkey Kong Bananza, the team was discussing what kind of character would be best to accompany Donkey Kong on his travels. And as early as that stage, I do recall that someone had suggested Pauline might be a good choice, but Pauline was not implemented directly into GameSpec at that time. I think the moment we actually realized we would go in that direction came about as a result of an artist who created some concept art of the zebra transformation. We saw that image and thought it was really fun, so we immediately prototyped it to try it out in the game. And when our composer saw that, they decided to create specific music just for that transformation.
>>715062978We should thank thay gay furry porn addict for creating the concept for this game
>>715063125who knew funny zebra kong would lead to Pauline being a character
>>715061678Im glad Motokura worked in Jungle Beat, I think thats the game that gave me this feeling of DK being a strong beast punching his way through, not even DK returns with the gimmick of punching the tiki taks after boss fights can evoke that feeling
>>715063360makes me wonder what characters had they also considered
>>715063387Yeah, even 64 had a really shitty DK "punch" (look like a wet fart of a slap).
assuming this is the same takahashi
https://www.mobygames.com/person/396598/kazuya-takahashi/
from sega to SE to nintendo
>>715063456Im sure they started with another Kong. Diddy is a given, maybe even Dixie if they wanted a female early on, or even a new Kong.
>>715064302>Directed NiGHTS into Dreams
>Koizumi is the one that asked for a new 3D DK
Based, another Jungle Beat connection
Friendly reminder that in Japan "Pauline" and "Lady" are treated sometimes as different characters and that the manual of DK94 treated Pauline as a new heroine.
And also the girl from Sheriff, which came before the og arcade Donkey Kong is also called Lady.
>>715039895>>715040785>>715038779>>715039170The Mario series cast are basically actors who play a different role depending on the game, so the "actor" who plays Donkey Kong was probably always the same regardless if he plays the act of a father or a grandson.
>>715061678>people claiming this was originally a Wario game btfo
>And while the team debated on how much of the human world and more Donkey Kong Country-specific wilderness to include, one character addition was non-negotiable for Motokura: โOne thing I wanted to make sure we definitely included was Cranky Kong. Maybe itโs just because Iโm a fan, personally, but I wanted to make sure he was included.โ
based as fuck
If this game is successful we're going to see a bunch of games come out with destructible terrain. Mark my words it will be the new "survival crafting" type trend
>>715065010But /v/ told me Nintendo hates everything Rare made?
>>715065107yeah finally a wave of games where you mine voxels
>>715065010Thats it. The game is a prequel to Odyssey and a reboot of the DK franchise, Cranky is just doing a fun callback with his usual meta dialogue.
>FFXV Comrades
what's this?
mmm
md5: 2bfcf0a686c7e62d6bd8aa71a83ff25b
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>Pauline is young because they wanted a middle ground between a familiar character for old folks and a new one for younger folks
>>715065901he didn't work on ffxv, just one of its expansions
>>715062728>So what is going to be the first real Switch 2 game? Did they not tell anyone in their fucking company they were making a Switch 2 until last year or something?Could be that no one got word until pretty late. With MKW they said they only got word of a new console back in โ20, and it wasnโt until the following year when they actually got the specs to rework the game around
>>715064302>Forspokenit's over
>>714989746 (OP)Kino game. Nintendo EAD can be trusted to deliver a good and fun game.
>>715062728do you know how video game development works? Also in the article it quite literally states they redid the whole game once they decided on switch 2
>>715065980>Special Thanks>probably because he left Luminous waaaay earlierdon't worry about it
>>715062728it's what happens when you constantly have new games in the pipeline, it takes a while to get through the backlog until you reach the ones only planned after Switch 2 had a release date
>>715065010>>715065179Seems like Nintendo specifically likes Cranky Kong in particular. I wonder why.
god damn there are too many takahashi
>>715066190also Takahashi is back to do Zeztz
>>715066190PAULINE IS MARIO WHO FELL IN COLD WATER CONFIRMED
>the game started as a switch 1 game
>then we realized we could charge $70 and force people to buy our tech demo since this would be literally the only other game outside Mario slop world
Absolute kino
>>715067463Be quiet, adversary.
Mini-Pauline is approaching.
>>715065010Devs confirmed ultrabased
>>715067463More like
>couldnโt get a 3d platformer with fully destructible terrain to work on switch 1 so had to push it to switch 2
Does the Switch 2 do the thing that PS5 does where I can download the game in advance and I can play it at midnight on launch day?
>>715068491Yeah, switch 1 did preloads as well
>>715068491even Switch 1 did that as well as the 3DS, hell even the Wii U did that
>>715068491Yea, any game available for pre-order you can download a week early and itโll be ready for launch
>>715068640>>715068659Cool. I think I'm going to preorder it. Mario Odyssey was so awesome so I trust them to make a great game.
>>715042878They barely give a fuck about the continuity of Metroid. Other M contradicts literally every other Metroid game in existence.
Now that monke game is almost out can I PLEASE get a new starfox?
>>715064917That was always some weird cope.
>>714989746 (OP)I have a theory, though it has nothing to do with the game's story, but how the game came to be.
I remember playing Odyssey and remembering the finale where you take control of Bowser, just smashing everything in your way. I thought it was fun as hell, and wished there was more of it.
Well, I assume members of the Odyssey team felt the same way, and so for their next game wanted to make a whole game out of smashing everything. However, I doubt they wanted to make Bowser a protagonist, but then someone thought it could work for DK. And here we are.
Not really a huge thing, but I guarantee if the devs give interviews, someone will say that.
>>715068867Not without a new genre.
Rail shooting is dead.
When that Bayonetta tease happened I really wanted a fast paced stylized action game using his Smash moveset boarding ships and beating up soldiers but theres nobody to do that anymore
>>715061678Oh it is voxels. That's really interesting.
>>715069036Just make it play like Warhawk (2007). I think it had foot segments too
>>715066127Cranky is the original DK from the arcade game.
>>715065901So itโs not the odyssey team then? Am confused
>>715064754So Koizumi must be the executive producer now? And the Odyssey director stepped into the producer role? So basically this is the third generation of EPD Tokyo. People who said this was a newblood team were right.
There is no way K Rool isn't in
>>715069213According to Rare, but it was never specifically in the games and NoJ might not have even known that.
>>715068991https://www.ign.com/articles/our-big-bananas-interview-with-the-developers-of-donkey-kong-bananza
>>715069512It is the Odyssey "team" as in the same studio. But the director of Odyssey is now producing and someone new is directing. It's like how Miyamoto stepped into the producer role for Sunshine and Koizumi was directing. Then after Galaxy, Koizumi did the same thing. Now it's Motokura who directed Odyssey producing, and a new director.
It's actually the new director's first game at Nintendo.
My prediction is that it's just another one of Nintendo's corporate games that come and go and nobody gives a fuck about two weeks later.
Basically: get excited, consume, now get excited about the next product.
>>714990515If you think Nintendo is going for a chronological prequel with a timeline you're an idiot.
Every Nintendo game might as well be set in a different universe with the exception of a handful of Zelda and Metroid sequels.
>>715070223It's funny because Nintendo games get talked about for decades.
The series itself goes back to the 80s.
>>715069737I'm guessing this "voxel technology" is what they mean by that. Also
>they're aware of the Wreck-It Ralph comparisonsBased
>>715069737Pauline Jr. and K. Rool confirmed
>>715070667How'd they get voxels to not look like shitty cubes? More voxels and better blending?
If you can do that, why aren't other voxel games doing this?
>>715070560Yes, games like SMB3, Mario World, Smash Melee, Smash Ultimate, Zelda BOTW, Mario Galaxy, etc. Nintendo has a lot of historically important games.
However, recently I've been noticing a phenomenon where Nintendo has started to adopt an overly corporate stance, not only in its own games, but in third-party and licensed games as well. Mario Golf Super Rush is one of the best examples, that lazy and souless piece of shit is almost an insult to the consumer (it was the game that made me stop buying Nintendo games, because I paid fucking $60 for that piece of shit).
In this new phase, Nintendo games come and go like a passing breeze.
I predict that DK Bananza will be one of those games. It will come out, people will say how fun it is, and after two weeks no one will remember the game and they will be excited about the next product.
Apparently this is Nintendo's business now. At least until they release a truly big game, maybe the next Mario, or the next Smash, I don't know?
>>715071224type it again without crying this time
>>715071393Let the adults talk.
>>715069915Hmm so the rumor about it being an offshoot of the odyssey team that includes new devs was true.
>>715071563It's not an offshoot, it is the Odyssey team. The director of Odyssey was promoted.
>>715064620Not a great track record.
>>715072236the director is a total newcomer to nintendo though, and Hayashida and Koizumi are nowhere to be seen
>>715064805>The Mario series cast are basically actors who play a different role depending on the game, so the "actor" who plays Donkey Kong was probably always the same regardless if he plays the act of a father or a grandson.They aren't literal actors, Miyamoto said they're like the Mickey Mouse cast in which they are characters who can smoothly fit into any setting of story you write them with.
>>715073814>They aren't literal actors, Miyamoto said they're like the Mickey Mouse cast in which they are characters who can smoothly fit into any setting of story you write them with.Sorry, i worded it badly. But i meant to say what you said just now. With the Donkey Kong character being used as a different role depending on the game, sometimes they make him be a father in the story and sometimes he's a grandson.
>>715072934Koizumi is Executive Producer.