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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:33:56 AM No.715030143
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Is there any reason why a videogame villain has to be evil?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:34:58 AM No.715030217
the jews
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:42:17 AM No.715030697
kill yourself cris
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:02:58 AM No.715031834
>>715030143 (OP)
I wouldn't mind more villains that are just greedy and detached from the scope of the suffering they've indirectly caused.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:08:53 AM No.715032149
Most players have a strong preference for being the good guy. And an ambiguous villain complicates that.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:15:39 AM No.715032481
>>715030143 (OP)
No. But a more complex villain is more work.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:35:07 AM No.715033469
>>715030143 (OP)
To motivate players. Otherwise who gives a fuck about what happens.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:38:07 AM No.715033606
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>>715031834
Malos in Xenoblade 2. 90% of his motivation is

>God wanted me to break shit and kill people. So I'm gonna break shit and kill people.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:50:18 AM No.715034216
>>715030143 (OP)
Even before the influx of millennial tard writers, video game writing was always for people who couldn't make it in novels and movies, and were just one failure away from writing for TV shows.
All they know is black and white morality. If you're not a hand rubbing cartoon villain, you're a paragon of virtue.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:51:42 AM No.715034286
>"villain" is actually in the right and the "heroes" were brainwashed/tricked into a campaign to stop him
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:53:36 AM No.715034387
>>715034216
ironically, modern movies and tv shows have even worse binary morality
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:55:26 AM No.715034487
>>715030143 (OP)
In Wolfstein 2 you plays as the evil guys
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:55:30 AM No.715034491
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>>715034387
But that's the result of the millennial wave. It's sad when a Michael Bay movie has a more complex villain than any that's ever been in a video game.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:58:50 AM No.715034689
>>715034491
i haven't seen the rock, but is he the morally grey and slightly corrupt army general?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:00:40 AM No.715034801
>>715034689
His whole thing is that the US had been fucking over veterans and their families, and he was looking for justice. He was wrong, but understandable. He also lost control of the situation when his subordinates wanted to actually use the gas on people.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:04:19 AM No.715034992
>>715034801
yeah that's a bit of a stretch then. video games have plenty of "trying to fix an injustice while losing control / the plot" villains"
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:07:00 AM No.715035127
>>715033606
Wasn't it;
>God made me want to create chaos so I'm going to kill god so a world like this, and a god like that, doesn't exist
And wasn't it Jin's struggle and loss that made him think that way?
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:07:52 AM No.715035165
pure evil >>>> sad backstory
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:09:45 AM No.715035259
>>715031834
So they are evil
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:10:53 AM No.715035319
>>715034801
>He was wrong
golem hands typed this post.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:11:38 AM No.715035359
>>715035165
pure evil is fun if they have an interesting or autistic motivation / fixation.
evil for the sake of !satan worship or evil's sake is always boring.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:35:44 AM No.715036634
>>715035165
pure evil is fun because it can only be reasoned with violence
we play vidogame bc we like violence
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:53:03 AM No.715037579
>>715030143 (OP)
Because being evil is fun for roleplaying reasons
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:57:59 AM No.715037847
>>715037579
Killing evil*
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:21:12 AM No.715039105
>>715030143 (OP)
isn't that the definition of a villain?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:23:15 AM No.715039191
>>715039105
a title placed upon an entity based on a societal framework.
How can you be sure the framework is even correct?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:24:58 AM No.715039257
What games let you be genuinely evil while the "villains" are the good guys?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:25:04 AM No.715039268
>>715030143 (OP)
Yes. A "villain" is literally defined as a wicked or evil person. Assuming you meant "antagonist" instead, no, and there are in fact many games where you play the villain as a protagonist against good guys who are the antagonists.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:29:30 AM No.715039449
>>715039257
Dungeon Keeper off the top of my head. Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 (and I assume 3?) let you be a literally evil person. You can roleplay as evil in pretty much any bethesda open world slop and kill civilians. Grand Theft Auto games are all about being a murderous criminal.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:30:30 AM No.715039493
>>715039191
fuck off you gay retard. words have meanings.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:31:10 AM No.715039523
>>715039493
except the ones you don't like apparently
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:31:37 AM No.715039543
>>715039257
The story mode of Star Wars Battlefront II
saucy
7/10/2025, 8:33:05 AM No.715039609
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>>715030143 (OP)
The villain in a story doesn't have to be evil, but he does have to create problems for the protagonist. For example, in a story where the protagonist is a thief, the villain has to be a meticulous and diligent do-gooder.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 9:07:10 AM No.715041226
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>>715030143 (OP)
>"villain"
>only thing he did wrong was break society's conventions
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:07:26 AM No.715044096
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>>715030143 (OP)
If the villain is good, that makes YOU the bad guy.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:12:54 AM No.715044380
>>715030143 (OP)
If they're not evil then they're not a villain, just an antagonist. So yes, the reason is "words mean things"