>Can /v/ do it?
Sourced from an earlier thread, here is a suggestion for 25 games /v/ can generally agree on being great.
>This is only version 2.0, it will change across multiple threads based on replies
Justify selections, if your argument is "X Game, LOL" then it's invalid by default and will be ignored

>>715035397 (OP)
/v/ has shit taste and barely plays games, who gives a fuck

It's insane how good castlevania sotn is at filtering out trash video game opinions. All you need to do is know someone likes sotn and you can save your time and completely disregard every single one of their opinions about video games

its crazy that almost none of the games on your list are good so i went and circled the ones that are. nin toddlers ALWAYS out themselves when they shove tendie shit that is extremely mediocre in

>>715035397 (OP)
>games /v/ can agree are great
>dark souls 2
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>>715035803
forgot pic

>>715035628
Sounds contrarian as fuck, but you haven't made a suggestion of what this should look like instead
>>715035856
Another anon who won't suggest an alternative - seriously why are people here so scared to suggest a game they think is good?

>>715035867
Yet another anon happy to say what's shit and doesn't belong, but not willing to offer even a single example of a game that should take their place. Are you seriously that afraid of judgement on an anonymous Mongolian basket-weaving forum?

>>715035397 (OP)
Based. If I see Mario on a 3x3, 5x5, etc. I upvote

>>715035928
you should make a list without sotn, the ultimate safe retro pseudslop game

>>715035867
>Dark Souls good
>Tetris bad
You know nothing about game design, AT ALL

The /v/ top 100 list from like 2011 is still the best top 100 game list I've ever seen

>>715036037
Yet again, as you've completely failed to suggest a game you think is better and more worthy of being here, I can only conclude that you don't have one and that your argument is therefore in bad faith

>>715035867
Elden ring isn't that good compared to the souls games. The bosses are just so bad. Also, Portal is like an hour long so it doesn't qualify as an actual video game

>>715036124
Other way around you smoothbrained retard.

No one is calling Tetris bad, it's just the de-facto "le perfect videogame" for poser faggots that played like 10 minutes and dropped it. Vast majority of people who suck Tetris off don't even know about any of the advanced mechanics or different variants.

>>715036124
Tetris is the most overrated game of all time. It's okay for like five minutes and then it gets boring. Something like minesweeper is way more interesting and repayable. Tetris is boring

>>715035397 (OP)
>BG3
>DS2
>BotW
I have no idea what you are smoking. All three games gets shit on nonstop here, some times for good reasons. There are people who disagree with other picks on that list as well(ER, FO:NV, FFVII, SSBU) so I don't really understand what your criteria is for them to be on your list.
It feels like you barely browse /v/ and instead added games you personally like. Like MK64? Red Alert 2? Tekken 3? It's just strange all around as a list and you should most likely explain why you think /v/ agrees with it, or at least 80% agrees those are all great games.

Honestly not having HoMM 3 there is a fucking crime, never seen anyone post anything negative about it

>>715035928
>seriously why are people here so scared to suggest a game they think is good?
Halo 2, Halo 3, Metro 2033, Final Fantasy X, Bloodborne, Tales of Berseria, Digital Devil Saga 1+2, Shadow Hearts 1+2, Elden Ring, Clair Obscure Expedition 33, SMT 3, 4, 4a, and VV, Persona 3 fes, 4 golden and 5 royal, Dragon Age Origins, Troubleshooter Abandoned Children, Metaphor Refantazio, Kotor 1+2, Dead Space 1+2, Nine Sols, Hollow Knight, Omori, Death Stranding, AI the somnium Files, 13 sentinels, 40 rogue trader, Nier replicant and Automata, Witcher 2, Final fantasy IX and XII, Disco Elysium, Tony Hawk's Underground 1+2, Xenosaga trilogy, Xenoblade series, Breath of Fire 3, 4, and 5, Star wars Battlefront 2 (ps2 version), Armored Core series, Zone of the Enders 2, Jak and Daxter trilogy, Shadow of the Collosus, Grandia 1+2, Ratchet ps2 series (none of the failed abortion sequels or spin offs), Radiata Stories, MGS series, Midnight Club 2 and 3, Valkyrie Profile 1/2, Ar Tonelico 1+2, Mana Khemia 1+2

i can keep going if you want i can defend my taste easily (its better than yours)

>>715036210
literally any castlevania on gba is better, also drop the debate bro speech please

>>715035928
>Another anon who won't suggest an alternative
If you came to the conclusion that DS2 is a game that "majority of /v/ thinks is great" there are two options:
1. You are a retarded newfag and you aren't the right person to make a list like that
2. You put it there as a clickbait in which case you're a shitposter
Either way you're not worth taking seriously.

>>715036524
nta but I absolutely love ds2 and it's easily my favorite souls game. I have a hundreds of hours in all of them though. Ds2 is my favorite but I know just about everyone on /v/ disagrees with and thinks I'm trying to be contrarian. I'm really not because I love all the souls games but ds2 is just my favorite

>>715036780
based anon who doesnt care what other people think. you keep enjoying that dark souls 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFo01GRhUvY
its probably my least favorite in the series for a few reasons (durability being the biggest) but theres still a lot to love about it and its still a very enjoyable game. I love that its so different and I love that the experimentation lead to elden ring being what it was.

>>715036306
So let me get this straight:
This is meant to be a grid of 25 games /v/ can agree are great
You didn't circle it, signifying you don't think it should be here
However you also call it the "de facto perfect videogame"
So which is it?

>>715036780
Nta(as well) but at least you have enough brain to understand just because you like a game doesn't mean it is necessarily considered good by others. Having to live with something that gets you considered contrarian instead is painful, but at least you can go "Yeah I know it's disliked but I'm not being a contrarian, I just really like it even if others don't".
However OP is claiming that DS2 is not only good game, but that all of /v/ generally likes it. I like Smash Bros. Melee but I'm not insane enough to slap it on a list with "/v/ agrees this is great".
You can like what you want, but claiming others should is baka-tier. That's what's the problem with OP.
Enjoy your DS2 times, happy you are reasonable.

Why don't people post recommendations anymore?

>>715037116
Irrational fear of judgement

>>715036524
>>715036780
>>715036895
>>715037114
OK so DS2 shouldn't be there because it's far too contentious on /v/ - any suggestions for what should replace it?

>>715036367
You have objectively shit taste, and there's a very high likelihood you're an autistic weeb tranny
>Death Stranding is better than DS2
gave me a good chuckle though I'll give you that

>>715037221
Morrowind or Diablo 2. They're not similar but close to what I play and know for a replacement.

>>715037116
Honestly I am very bad at judging what /v/ thinks is great. Just a game like SM64 gets lots of criticism. I would add HoMM 3 on OP list at least, replacing DS2 or BG3, then maybe change BotW to another Zelda(OoT? WW?).
But otherwise /v/ shits on like everything. My personal favs? Those have nothing to do with this thread. Even if I personally like HoMM3 a lot, but I also consider it well liked game here.

>>715036343
They are all games brought up by other anons in previous threads as strong candidates. DS2 is too divisive I'll agree, but BG3 and BotW is pure contrarianism
Well, actually BG3 is people disregarding the actual game because muh heckin' politics, but tards gonna tard

OK, tweaked it, what's the biggest complaint now?
>Don't just say "X shouldn't be there" without offering a replacement

>>715037301
let me guess, you're a butthurt nin toddler? not enough bing bing wahoo for you?

>>715037676
ffffffffuuuuuuuu

>>715037734
remove the mario and smash games and replace them with something actually god jesus christ

if botw had real dungeons then yes

>>715037719
The only thing more childish than bing bing wahoo soibois is people who automatically disregard anything nintendo as bad by default because "I'm a big boy now!"

>>715037734
Isn't portal 2 generally more liked than portal? This >>715037793. Also Windwaker? Why not OoT or MM?

>>715035928
>>715036210
nta but Aria of Sorrow better in every way except visuals and music.

>>715037793
See
>>715037676

>>715037849
>hes trying to pretend he isnt a tendie
you arent fooling anyone anon, i bet you were the one who insisted 3 different fucking mario games were on this list lol.

>>715037969
You're 15 and you think Dante is the pinnacle of cool

>>715037734
Trim down the Mario titles and coin flip the souls crap. Tendie stuff is ok as long as the titles are different.

>>715037426
I have my fair share of criticism of BG3, and this is coming from someone who bought it in early access. I'm very left-leaning person and have no problem with the game's """woke""" things even if few of them are questionable and have romantic relationship flaws(overly playersexual characters). Mainly writing and characters and what a non-character your custom character is as you end up being an errand boy for your companions rather than having your unique story or such.
BotW is fucking flawed as well. Be it breaking weapons or boring unlocks. Or some questionable design. Characters are fun. I just think TotK is an objective upgrade, Purah becoming adult is preference of course(I liked loli Purah). That is still a flawed game with some of the same problems.

I think both BG3 and BotW(or TotK) are excellent games on first playthrough or like first 20 hours, but if you played older CRPGs or Zelda games, the cracks start showing up.
Also Ape Escape 3 could make the list, but this board these days is very anti-"tranime" and finds lolis very problematic so I guess it's out of the question despite being an excellent game all around. MGS3 should make the list maybe?
I dunno, /v/ is very divisive. My own taste in vidya is very questionable and I like shitty games so I don't want to judge too much.

Just don't slap all dislike towards games you think are good as "contrarianism". If like over 20% of the board are "contrarians" about a game, then should it be on a list of "games /v/ agrees are great"? Like even if it's retardation like idpol shit, but it's still a list about /v/. Not a "If /v/ would actually play vidya and had smart posters, these games would be considered great here".

>>715038138
Agreed that at the very least, having both SMB3 and SMW is redundant. Which would you prioritise, and what should take the empty slot?
>Nothing gets changed unless people suggest something to replace it, a simple and obvious rule /v/ apparently can't understand

>>715035397 (OP)
Yoshi's World instead of SMW
OoT instead of BotW
And something else for DS2, DMC3 or one of the old God of Wars.

>>715038186
Fair points. Thing is if you count every single contrarian voice and say a game needs 100% approval, then the list is empty, cos you've always got contrarians and trolls who will shit on literally anything given the chance. So it has to be a majority consensus rather than 100%.
I already replaced BotW with WW even though I personally disagree, but it seems BotW is too divisive to include. The issues you listed with BG3 seem extremely minor faults in the grand scheme of things though.
MGS3 seems like a solid shout - what would you replace with it though?

>>715038519
I dunno what to replace. My personal taste is shit. Like I prefer SSBM and even SSBB over SSBU.
Not also saying like everything needs 100% approval but I also dunno. You do you

>>715037969
>If it's aimed at a younger audience, it's automatically bad by default
retard

>>715037035
Nigger, I'm not him, I just have fucking common sense and an IQ above 80

>>715038758
>IQ over 80
>still doesn't clear up his own blatent contradiction
so I'll ask again, which is it?

>>715035397 (OP)
Replace dark souls two with dishonored
And also add max payne 1

>>715038758
>Iq over 80
anon having an iq of 81 is nothing to brag about

>list is over a decade old
Still holds true. There has barley been anything in the past 14 years that I would want to add.

There. Just fixed your shitty game problem.

>>715039273
here are some. not everything, but some major contenders to make it on the list. they have flaws, but so do most entries on that list.
>MGSV definitive
>noita
>stranger of paradise
>prey 2017
>human revolution
>hitman world of assassins
i have a few personal adds, but these are probably some safe additions.

>>715039563
I'm just one person and I disagree with most of your choices

>>715039569
only NOTIA is beloved like that
also some fags now dislike WOA for whatever reason

>>715040027

>>715040030
stranger of paradise is absolutely loved here.
pretty much everyone agrees that MGSV is great as far as the gameplay goes, even if the plot leaves something to be desired.
prey and human revolution belong on the list just because they are some of the few games that have come out recently that are congruent with the action WRPGs on that list.
hitman WOA belongs, i don't care what nu-/v/ thinks.

>>715040027
Which ones have you actually played? Can't disagree with any picks you haven't played first.

>Mario
>Mario
>Mario

>>715040373
That I've played and disagree with?
>Sonic 2
>Contra: Hard Corps
>Einhander
>Sin and Punishment
>SSF2
>MKT
>Vanquish
>Battlefield
>DMC3
>SMRPG
>Nidhogg
I also don't think Ketsui or APB should be there, because it's meant to be a list /v/ can agree are great, and obscure weeb games nobody has played can't really qualify for that. Also, if they were actually great, they wouldn't be so obscure, get a clue
>inb4 they're not obscure you're just not an enlightened individual like me

>>715040082
>t. tranny confirmed
>>715040595
>Literally no argument

>>715041056
So, basically, you're a contrarian faggot?

>>715041097
>Mario
>Mario
>Mario

>>715041147
>you don't think my personal preferences are games literally everyone thinks are the greatest ever made? You must be a contrarian!
cmon anon, bait better. Nobody is gonna bite the "not liking Vanquish makes you a contrarian" line, try harder

>>715041294
You literally are a faggot if you completed Vanquish and still said you didn't like it.

>>715041208
>games aimed at children are bad by default

>>715041056
>SSF2
>MKT
Way to out yourself. 2/10, weak bait but you still made me reply.

>>715041342
You literally can't accept people not liking things that you did, gtfu

>>715041447

>>715041420
Capcom vs SNK 2 is better than both by a mile

>>715041346
>Mario
>Mario
>Mario

>you don't need THREE rollsloppers in there especially when DS is the only nondivisive one
>SM64, Smash, and BOTW also way too divisive
>I'd remove SMW since it's just not very good even though /v/ is mostly nostalgic for it
>needs more variety of agreed on genre peaks like Need for Speed Most Wanted, Rayman Origins, Warcraft 3, Prince of Persia, Thief
>could use clunky but beloved games like Jet Set Radio
But /v/'s opinion hasn't mattered in over 10 years anyway, the fact a big chunk of the board unironically plays gacha and another is nostalgic for Halo means any consensus is meaningless anyway

>>715035397 (OP)
take out baldurs gate, tf2, tekken 3 and tony hawk

>>715035928
>ff7 gud
lel

>>715042853
Yeah true, desu I was using this to judge just how bad /v/ has gotten, and yeah it's pretty diabolical
>nostalgic for Halo
if that's true then /v/ is truly lost
>>715042921
and replace them with....? (seriously I think you guys can't read)

>>715041862
There’s a difference between Mario being *influential* and being *good to play in 2025*. Half the people shilling it haven’t touched anything earlier than Galaxy anyway. SMRPG was mid outside of the presentation, 64 is aging like milk, and World lives off kaizo hack crowd fumes. Put one Mario on the list if you must, but three is straight clown behavior.

>>715035397 (OP)
v wouldn't agree on 1 game, forget 25

no game is universally agreed upon to be great

>>715037035
>>715038825
No he circled the games he thinks are good. The "other way around part" is him saying that it's the people who blindly praise Tetris that usually know nothing about game design (according to him). Hopefully I translated this correctly.

>>715035397 (OP)
>eldenfart
>tendieslop
>balls hurt gay 3
Do amerimutts really

>>715044182
Not to mention,
>Bald 'n' Gay 3 is the first one at the top of the chart

>>715035397 (OP)
You started that other thread with the word "good".
You shot yourself in the foot with this one.

>>715035628
SPBP. SotN is the worst game on here.
Garbage list, garbage thread.

>>715035397 (OP)
>Chrono Trigger
>Dark Souls 2
>nu-Fallout
>tendie shit

>>715039273
>Jak II mentioned
I like you man

But the list is old af.
please update. And don't give me that shit about nothing has happened. Thats bullshit

now get to work!

>>715043919
>Mario
>Mario
>Mario

>>715035397 (OP)
The /v/core chart would surely look more like this.

>>715035397 (OP)
>no mega man x
>no metal gear solid 3
>no resident evil 4
You are missing so many /v/core games

>>715045767
>Only played 4 of those
Jesus christ, too close in being a faggot, but still too many none the less.

>>715045767
>godhand
>dark arisen
>eye
>deus ex
>dmc3
>revengeance
>ghost trick
>vanquish
>cave story
>ace combat
good
>mount and blade
>w101
>nocturne
>stalker
good ideas, not so perfect execution
>ico
bad
>everything else
haven't played but want to.

Any /v/ core chart without Warcraft 3 is a joke

Where's Undertale/Deltarune?

>>715046837
In the tumblr trash bin

>>715035397 (OP)
Vice City is just a more polished GTA3 and not close to being the best GTA and New Vegas being considered good is a meme.

>>715045767
For once, I feel like I could get behind this

>>715047039
Newfag

>>715035397 (OP)
>Shart Souls 2
Nice attemot ds2faggot

>>715044328
>Too dense to realise the list is alphabetical
>Too gay to see the worth of a game past their own fear of faggotry
BTW, do you realise how obvious it is when you post? You're that one "obsessed with gayness" dude that keeps cropping up and it's painful

Next time I do this thread I might have to put in massive capitals that saying something is bad without explaining why and offering a substitute will result in hyperturbogigaAIDS for you and your loved ones

>>715047839
Next time you make a thread try not to put shit baits like pretending you don't know Dark Souls 2 is widely hated.
Maybe you'll have a better thread

>>715035397 (OP)
I don't agree with all of those but yeah most of them are good.
I don't agree with FF7, DS2, Mario Kart or Tony Hawk 3.

The rest i can agree with, pretty good ratio if you ask me considering most 5x5 i see here is downright shit.

>>715048293
already acknowledged as an error and changed ages ago, keep up
DS2 is still the best Dark Souls game, people just got filtered

>>715038675
>My personal taste is shit
I love a self aware idiot.

>>715045767
>The /v/core
There is no /v/core because there is no standards, the board keeps changing their standards to own the "normies" so there is no /v/core except whatever the "normies" dont know or like.

>>715048653
Newfag award
Normalfag award

>>715048653
correct, /v/ is full on contrarian faggots, as soon as something becomes "/v/core" the whole board will start getting flooded with people talking about how overrated and shitty it is