Steam Deck got MURDERED by Switch 2. Holy shit.

https://youtu.be/SvGQik3m6ag?si=rT4mU86Rdu3Zf72j

didn't you just post this earlier? and we already talked about this
I don't want a bing bing wahoo machine because I don't want to play bing bin wahoo games, Steam Deck to play the games I already bought "on the go"
switch 1 emulator exists. same with many many other console emulators. I could play anything I want to play on the steam deck, can't on the switch 2.. so why would I care if it's "better"

please stop trying to make deck vs switch a thing you console warring retard

>>715041057 (OP)
Ooft. /v/trannies must be fizzing.

>>715041057 (OP)
>two year old device gets beat by current year device
No way..

>>715041374
>please stop trying to make deck vs switch a thing you console warring retard

LMFAOO the seethe is real.

I still can't believe people play "handheld games".

I have a computer (for PC games) and a Switch (for Nintendo games).

Niggas really be like "damn I need to take my PC/Gamecube outside!!". I don't understand, and I never will. But it's a huge success, so, congratulations.

>>715041057 (OP)
Damn. Looks like I'm selling my Deck now.

>>715041057 (OP)
>Steam Deck outperforms Switch 2
oh no no, I am not feeling so well tendie bros.. I will going to cry... will having drive to bestbuy to return the console... princess peach please dont tell me this is real...

this comparison isn't necessary
everyone already knows the deck is a failure shilled by a minority of contrarians
it's no surprise there's already more switch 2 users than deck users

>>715041437
i own both
kys brownoid

steamdeck has over 1000 games and more though?

>>715042407
it has more tendie games than a tendie console too

>>715041374
I mean deck fags were the ones asking comparison with the deck, that in the case it would be in handheld mode because deck has just one mode, it doesn't get better docking it. They were asking for deck videos comparisons for weeks in digital cuckery comment section.

>>715041374
you picked a fight you couldn't win shilling the deck as the "switch killer"
now the deck has 4 million sales, the switch 1 has 152 million, and the switch 2 has over 6 million so far
you did this to yourself

Consolewarring aside, it's pretty amazing how the Switch 2 is only 9 watts max and still achieves the performance it has, especially when you consider it's using the shitty Ampere architecture.

>>715042821
It's pretty amazing that your mums snatch can fit my 16" cock inside, yet i don't applaude her everytime she gets clapped

>>715042821
because the switch 2 was actually made with effort
the steam deck is a cashgrab trying to bruteforce games with no optimization

>>715042821
>when you consider it's using the shitty Ampere architecture.
I think Nvidia hasn't really improved their arch much since Ampere raster wise so it doesn't make that big of a diff. I think the Samsung 8nm is a bigger limiter since Switch doesn't really use AI or RT a ton.

>>715042343
I like how in this meme the deck and switch should be reversed and it's then also exactly what you are doing right now.

>>715041057 (OP)
That great-
>docked
Nevermind

>>715041057 (OP)
That was obvious by anyone who was aware of the Nvidia hack from 2022.

>>715041057 (OP)
Nice performance at 9 watts. I'll still stick to deck since it has my entire steam library and I don't care for tendie games but very impressive. I'd like to see where we go with handhelds in a few years

>>715042335
You can't lie your way out of this one

>>715043235
Raster has hit its peak and won’t improve anymore which is why nvidia’s focus is 100% on new software solutions like DLSS. Outside of significant node shrinks raster will never improve again

>>715041057 (OP)
CP2077 released for the switch?

>>715041057 (OP)
So we're just repeating the whole thread from yesterday?

>>715041374
Please be understanding, Switch 2 has no games to play, so shitposting on /v/ it's all he has.

>>715042750
>Millions of kids own it, therefore it's the superior handheld.
Okay pedo

>>715042821
It's not just "shitty Ampere architecture".
It has features backported from Lovelace and the components on the SoC are arranged in the same way they are on Lovelace SoCs rather than Ampere.
It's as custom as XSX and PS5's RDNA 1.5 SoCs

>>715043808
on S2, not on S1.

>>715041374
>please stop talking about it!!!!

Kek'd

>>715043996
ah, I was gonna say if they had trouble running that on the BONE and the ps4 who knows how terriblea switch port would be

be honest how angry did you get last thread? did you break something or did you take it out on a family member

>>715043906
Switch is retard proof. That's why it sells so well

>>715042750
Firstly you made those posts so you could make this post. Secondly you're a fucking idiot.

>>715041057 (OP)
I don't get why anyone would play Cyberpunk 2077 on Switch. I have a PC, I finished the game 5 years ago when in came out.
I do have 50 hours played in Mario Kart World in less than two weeks since I got my Switch 2.

Why are Tendies still mad about the Steam Deck? Is it the piracy of their precious exclusives?

exactly how strong is the switch 2 anyway?

I have a Legion Go and a Switch 2. It's hilarious how deckfags are all high and mighty when even the Switch 2 BTFOs the Deck in performance and more modern PC handhelds like the Legion Go and the soon to be released Go 2 (and Xbox Ally X) utterly demolish it.
TL;DR deckies are all of poor, stupid, and uppity.

>>715044958
Deck is 1.8 TFLOPS, and it doesn't have a docked mode. Switch 2 is also 1.8 TFLOPS in handheld mode but with DLSS it obliterates the Deck in performance and image quality, plus it also has a 3.6 TFLOPS docked mode, which is literally lightyears ahead of the Deck.

>>715041057 (OP)
>no trackpads
not interested
sorry

>he bought'd a Steaming Shit Deck

>>715043906
kids dont play switch, nor they care about them, they play fortnite and roblox and watch tiktok all day, they would rather put their money on these games than get a console lmao
99% of the switches are owned by adults, or adults that specifically gifted them to their nintendo-loving kids which they raised themselves, and at the end they'll also use the switch anyway.

>>715044754
I think it's because it's a handheld and they feel it's a threat to theirs despite it being in a completely different market.

>>715045548
All of you fucks bring up the stupid trackpads constantly but I'm sure you don't even use them, who the fuck plays RTS on a fucking Deck?

seems like the shitposters are already done with Mariokart lol

>>715044958
It's less hardware and more the fact they're comparing a highly specific port on Switch 2 vs PC version on Deck.

>>715045125
3.6 is literally 2x of 1.8 not "lightyears". Do you even math?

>>715046114
>IT'S ONLY TWICE AS FAST THAT'S BASICALLY NOTHING
holy shit, deckies are finished

>>715044754
>Why are Tendies still mad about the Steam Deck?

lol fuck off. For the past two years you have shat up this board with "le switch killer" despite the fact this piece of shit barely sold more than the fucking Nokia N-Gage.

Even when Switch 2 released you continued to seethe like fuck. And now we can clearly see that Switch 2 rapes the Shit Deck to hell and back without so much as a courtesy lock.

I'll never stop laughing. And remember, Switch 2 outsold the Deck's lifetime sales in the first 24 hours.

Imagine owning a Deck lma0o

>>715041057 (OP)
all that to try and catch the switch underperforming in some capacity instead of just apologizing for talking shit. Incredible.

>>715046178
>new thing beats older thing
No shit you consolewarring fuck.

>>715046158
Is reading also a problem for you alongside math? I said it's literally 2x not literally lightyears.

>>715045970
Not him, but I use the right trackpad all the time. The left trackpad is completely useless.

>>715046178
Damn bro, PC gaming raped you console fags so hard it left mental scars and now you have to cling onto anything to cope with... So what are we playing tonight, Mario Kart or Mario Kart?

>>715046114
Not that anon but in the case of both consoles, the gap isn't just on those flops but the tech used that allows the switch 2 to read things much faster making it work in a much more optimal way, so the flops actually seem like a lot more in older hardware. But I'm not pretending to tell you this is like a magic ssd or whatever like PS5 marketing, it is just that even compared to the PS4 the tech gap makes the switch show way more performance than just the teraflops in the GPU.

What are my fellow Deckchads playing right now?
Imagine having only one game, lmao

>new thing is better than old thing
No one tell op my dastardly plan of waiting for NEWER thing to own the libs.

It was never optimized for pc to begin with. Never has been. The fact my pc can run EVERY game released today right fucking now including the new doom but can still not run Cyberpunk at decent settings shows how poorly fucking optimized it is. Meanwhile my ps5 plays it fine. My pc is triple a ps5.

>>715046853
Yes. That's also what I told Deckies in 2022.

>>715044958
Well, with 2077 with a point of comparison, the Switch 2 maintains a similar level of performance (or better) to the Steam Deck at comparable fidelities (around medium to medium-high, barring some effects) at about 1/2 the power budget, despite being on an older manufacturing process.

>>715047927
Why ain't you waiting for the next thing?

wake me up when they aren't bigger than my phone

>>715041374
Deck troons made it a thing. They reap what they sow

>>715047927
>Deckies
Oh so you're that jeet. Fuck off retard.

>>715041057 (OP)
>steam deck
>10000000000000 games + emulators
>switch 2
>1 exclusive 10 ports
LOL

>>715045970
>rts
I use trackpads for radial menus to make heavy keyboard input roguelikes like cdda feel comfortable. Most recently I'm playing starsector and trackpads are incredible for it

>>715048939
>10000000000000 games + emulators
which anyone can already play on any trash pc
there's no point in wasting money on a deck, even the people who have it just let it gather dust and play their games on a much better computer

>>715049245
oh nice what kind of desktop can you carry around in a bag?

>>715049245
>even the people who have it just let it gather dust and play their games on a much better computer
Maybe that's what you do but I use mine often. The ability to play whatever I want wherever I want is pretty nice. Though for me it's not even a fair comparison because I don't play tendie shit so there's 0 reason to get switch

>tendies waited three years to beat a handheld when not in handheld mode while still being capped to unplayable 40 fps

>>715041057 (OP)
>New thing beats old thing
What a profound statement to make, dipshit.

>>715049875
You had no problem making it in 2022. Why are you upset now?

>>715049309
Laptops have been a thing for quite a while, you know?

>>715041057 (OP)
Is this another episode of finding one very specific thing to stake your pride on, in the neverending tendie wars?

Why the fuck would you play Cyberpunk on either? Play it on a PC with mods.

>>715049995
the thing that was praised in 2022 was a fully fledged pc
the thing you're praising now is a dedicated locked down toy that wins on the asterisk that is power efficiency and can only beat it when you treat it as a home console

>>715041057 (OP)
What a dumb video.
>If you cap the PC version at 30 FPS, it runs at 30 FPS exactly like the console version.
Yeah, no shit. Uncap the framerate and let the Deck stretch its legs.
>If a device is designed to run at 20-25W, if you cap the wattage at 10W everything runs like shit.
Yeah, no shit. A 5070 running at 50W is going to outperform a 5090 running at 50W.

>>715050343
you wouldn't want to play it even docked since it caps to 40fps
but you have to understand that tendies paid the full price for this version while you would have bought this years ago at a discount so they're desperate for wins

>>715041057 (OP)
>Newer hardware outperforms older hardware
In other news water is wet

Steam Deck still has more NPCs in Cyberpunk to run over with a car than Switch 2 so Steam Deck wins

>>715041057 (OP)
>17fps is alright as long as it looks good
tendies are truly something else.

>>715041057 (OP)
All I got out of this is the Deck is a far better handheld and nearly as good as the S2 is docked.
And that's just specs. What the Deck can do and play, the support it gets and how consumer friendly it is blows the S2 out of the water. Anyone trying to act like the S2 is better than the Deck is the same kind of moron who'd go around saying the PS5 is better than the Switch. Which is deeply ironic coming from tendies. And it's honestly just sad coming from a self-interest point of view. Anyone still defending Nintendo is a battered housewife masochist with no principles or standards.

>sub 60FPS on both

>>715045970
They're way more useful than just for RTS games. I use them constantly even in games I wouldn't expect to. Far as I'm concerned they're absolutely mandatory for a handheld PC for both games and desktop navigation.

>>715051954
consolecucks are used to having to move around menus like it's an old bios without mouse support

>>715044754
Because they actually know full well just how much better the Deck is. A nintendo fanboy's entire argument against other consoles, particularly playstation, is only one of many arguments the Deck has against Nintendo. But they've got stockholm syndrome.

>>715042821
It's literally just arm, nintendo do anything special, and the problem with arm is that it's dogshit for compatibility, which means it takes more effort to port to and it'll get less games.
What's interesting is valve is working on an arm compatibility layer and what that will mean going forward.

What DF did not factor in with their analysis of switch 2 power is the "free" anti aliasing added by DLSS. Switch 2 and Series S both output around the same resolution but Switch 2 looks significantly better because of the anti aliasing added by DLSS. Series S has the better CPU though so it does support higher framerate, but in that higher framerate mode the visual advantage goes farther toward Switch 2. This is why comparing specs on paper will never work with the switch 2, because they don't factor in the anti aliasing advantage switch 2 naturally has from DLSS. Comparing it to a PS4 like they have is laughable, it's honestly outperforming Series S in graphical fidelity.

>>715041057 (OP)
>Looks exactly the same
>Steam Deck averages better FPS when in the proper wattage
>Switch 2 doesn't gain any battery life bonus despite the supposedly improved efficiency
Yeah, "murdered."

>>715041057 (OP)
You can't murder what is dead

>>715052570
It's more efficient, but the battery is half the size. Or less than half the size compared to the OLED model.

Considering Cyberpunk was a launch title (and a rushed one at that) it's crazy impressive.

Imagine what developers will be able to do on Switch 2 years from now. I'm eager to see some new built from the ground up on Switch 2. I hear Monolith are making a new RPG.

>>715052959
>Imagine what developers will be able to do on Switch 2 years from now
Cyberpunk is as good as it's going to get. This system is still two generations behind, optimization for consoles is dead and Nintendo's own games still look like they're Wii U tier. Monolith's games will likely look marginally better than Switch games, but without the utter dogshit resolution problems they had on the Switch.

Sure bro... Just watch the video...

>>715053240
>>715052570

>>715052281
x86 isn't inherently less efficient than Arm, not much at least. It's just that Zen is designed for servers. It's for CPUs with hundreds of cores that consume hundreds of watts.

Intel's Lunar Lake is actually designed for low-power and it's just as efficient as the Elite X: https://www.pcworld.com/article/2463714/tested-intels-lunar-lake-wants-you-to-forget-snapdragon-ever-existed.html
AMD is also working on a low-power version of Zen. Both AMD and Intel are starting to focus more on low-power because they're getting their ass kicked by Apple and Qualcomm, and they don't want to lose that market.

>30 FPS
LITERALLY unplayable.

>>715053240
>>715053305
My "docked Steam Deck" is just my computer.

>nintendo puts in a 20wh battery
>lowers clocks until the device can play for 2h
>wow what amazing watt usage

sigh

>>715041057 (OP)
can the Switch 2 play my Steam games?

3 year old handheld beaten by handheld released in the last few months
in other news the sky is blue

>>715053480
they really should've taken the page out of the 'eck's book and made it thick

>>715053376
>30 FPS
>LITERALLY unplayable.

What do you think GTA6 is going to be?

>>715053683
playable on pc day one with that new emulator
rockstar took the bribe money to not put it on pc and it'll still be on pc

>>715053790
what new emulator?

>>715041393
holy shit...

>>715053665
Switch 2 chip was done in 2021, they are consoles with the same age.

>>715041393
>>two year old device
It's nearly 4 years old.

>>715053839
https://pcsx5.org/

>>715053906
do you have any proof of that?

>>715053665
Steam Deck is nearly 4 years old and is only marginally beaten out by the S2 when that system is docked. The Deck is better in every other way.
This whole debate is just like people trying to say the PS5 is so much better than the Switch because muh specs, only even worse because there's a far smaller gap and only in a specific situation and the Deck is better as a handheld than the S2 is, which is what most people would want to use the hardware for.

>>715053939
>ps4 emultion BARELY works
>he thinks a ps5 emulator is going to be worth a fuck in 2026

>>715053906
That doesn't matter at all, the deck APU also has a 2020 date stamped on it but was released 2 years later.
Dates on a chip are meaningless.

>>715041057 (OP)
>new thing is marginally better than old thing
What a nothingburger. This won't be true for every port, and hundreds of games will never see a Switch 2 port to begin with. The Deck is superior in terms of library, value, and capability.
>>715053480
>>715053673
>made it thick
Unironically, yes. The profile of Switch 2 is already a detriment to portability and comfort. Might as well make it thicker and less flat for comfort and hardware gains.

>>715052102
nigga be clickin with a mouse on text and shit like he at his cuck excel job in the office lmaooooo

>>715054231
>barely
you can play bloodborne at 1080p60 on midrange shit, something far out of reach for ps4
not to mention that the ps5 pro is literally a r7 3700x and a rx 6800
this shit is basically one to one with modern pc hardware

>>715052281
Deck 2 going to ARM would be a proper fuck you to that greedy whore Lisa at AMD.

>>715041057 (OP)
Don't worry. Gabe will further improve the deck.

>>715041057 (OP)
>downgraded ugly 400p switch version with blurry textures runs faster than PC version
oh wow

>>715053673
Yeah. I mean, when it's already basically just a flat, delicate brick you can't easily carry around, you may as well at least make it comfortable to hold and able to fit a bigger battery.

>>715042821
>Consolewarring aside, it's pretty amazing how the Switch 2 is only 9 watts max
Yes and imagine if the dumb chinks at Nintendo set a TDP cap of 15W instead with a 40Wh battery. Switch 2 would smoke the everliving shit out of even Ally X. But as of now Ally X is the most powerful handheld out there.

>>715055157
>rx 6800
6600XT*
The Pro is closer to a 6800 non-XT, but with much better Raytracing.

The Switch 2 can't play Burnout 3.

Check and mate.

>>715046667
Hollow Knight, Castlevania Dominus Collection, Slay the spire, Shadow Man Remastered, Soul Reaver remastered.

>Rich is using switch 2's 30 second video capture system to count frame rate in handheld mode
Is just me or I think this test was flawed?

>>715055315
That's not really how it works, it's capabilities are already essentially capped out while docked. But yes, if it didn't kneecap itself so hard in handheld mode and had a bigger battery life, it would at least fall somewhere in between a deck and rog ally instead of worse than the deck.

>>715055473
Why the fuck did you put 3M tapes on your trackpads

>>715046667
The Swapper.

>>715055473
peeps who buy ips displays in 2025 must feel pretty retarded by now

>>715055632
>>715055725
It's just some image I grabbed from online. It's not my deck.

>>715055725
The Deck has the best screen out of any handheld currently. The ROG Ally's might be higher rez, but the contrast and color saturation is what really makes it pop.

>>715055632
its a skin, they still work fine with that

>>715055657
I've have this game in my library for 15 years and 4 different computers and have never been able to get this piece of shit to run

>>715053683
I don't know. But if it's 30 FPS I ain't playing.

>>715044754
they know the deck is better and are rattled by it, also they don't have any games to play because Mario Kart gets boring fast

so yeah they're just weirdo console tards with buyer's remorse coping on /v/

>>715055963
The funny thing about linux at this point is proton has better compatibility with windows games than windows does. The only real exception I can see is niche jap VNs they made in some funky nonsense way.

>>715042343
>Different kinds of vegans
YOU MUST EAT PIGS INSTEAD

Anti-vegans are corrupt scum normalfag animal abusing bots

Huh, console/PC performance has become so homengised because of lack of optimisation that were now console waring over systems that largely don't consider top peformance the single priority, funny. Gotta keep the fires burning I guess.

PC + 3DS is the patricians choice. I don't need a shitch 1 or 2 because I have no interest in tendie games. I don't need a deck because I already have a high end pc and don't play games outside my house
actual handhelds mog the everliving fuck out of giant pc handhelds or a switch. designed handheld games on an actual portable device will always be superior to playing a worse version of something you can play on your pc

>But it's newer tech, of course it's stronger
It isn't newer tech. It's basically the same. 7nm in SD vs enhanced 8nm in Switch 2. Switch 2 is just better designed and the games are more optimized.

>>715044754
It's deeper than that. They know the Deck is the better system. It's why they constantly bring up and seethe so hard over something that they constantly claim is a failure due to sales. If the Deck was a failure and didn't matter, they wouldn't give it a single thought.
Their entire argument against the PS5 was that the Switch had games and specs didn't mean anything anymore. Their arguments against the Deck in the past were things like OLED and battery life, which they don't have anymore. So seeing them act like this now when the Switch 2 barely beats the Deck in specs only when it's docked while the Deck has WAY more games and is simply a far better system for gaming overall is pitiful and even the most ardent fanboy would have to recognize the doublethink going on in their head, so they seethe to make up for it like battered housewives.

>>715056618
>3ds
i played all the 2ds pokemon games on my old 8 year old midrange phone
can't imagine modern phones not being able to run that

>>715056750
meant to say ds
can't imagine phones not being able to run 3ds emulation

>>715045970
The track pads are superior to stick for aiming a camera. Trackpad+gyro is also far better then stick+gyro. Trackpads are one the best innovations game controllers have ever seen. It's a shame brainlets can't wrap their heads around them and are activity killing them.

>>715053683
PS5 and Series X, with PC later down the line.
Tendies didn't even get 5

>>715041057 (OP)
I don't understand why people on this board would purchase a non OLED handheld device in 2025.

>>715056675
>posts a novel-length response
kek steamies seething

>>715057017
>I don't understand why people on this board would purchase a non OLED handheld device in 2025.
Price?
You're paying at least 600 for OLED, 700+ if you want decent power. Not everyone wants to spend that.

>>715057017
As someone with a seven year old OLED TV, you are not going to enjoy them forever

>>715041057 (OP)
PC vegans cannot stop losing.

>>715057164
To be fair, it made you seethe in two short sentences. The rest is just explaining why.

>>715046667
Ravensburg, which I bought a few hours ago.

>>715057164
>>715057848
You just woke up, huh? Good luck clawing back the thread to try and repush your narrative.

>>715042343
i like how wanting to play a wide variety of games and not just nintendieslop is what makes you the vegan in this comparison

>>715057878
And he made you seethe with just one.

>>715046667
>playan
dirt rally 2 and initial d

>>715056623
>better designed
both are great machines but the kicker here is that the custom DLSS running on the Switch 2 tensor cores is much more efficient than the FSR on Deck, and it's much better at producing an inoffensive picture at 1080p than FSR (3) is at 720p. It's partially hardware, but it's really hardware-software codesign from nvidia's side that really won the Switch 2 its power.
Honestly, all they need to do is chuck a 50 mA battery into the Switch 2 to pump it to like 4-5 hours of playtime, and almost everyone's issues with it will have been solved. People wouldn't give nearly as much of a shit about the screen if they had a device they could play for as long as 2-3 feature length films before charging

>>715043643
>Tendies just play their Bing Bing Wahoos
>Decktards trying to stir shit
Every time without fail.

>>715041742
same but my switch is eating dust as my pc can emulate pretty much most of nintendo games

>>715041057 (OP)
you know what I love about switch 2?
>no need to pay for a subscription to play online;
>consumer friendly, you can easily install games from a different store and emulate other consoles without having to pay for 20yo roms;
>the games are cheap and constantly get discounts up to 90%;
>the nintendo workshop lets you make and share your own mods in a really easy way, and you can mod your games as much as you want; you can even mod games to remove censorship, because Nintendo cares about its adult fans;
>it's a definitive upgrade of the switch: Nintendo saw how much better the oled screen was on the switch one and kept it for the switch two instead of going back to a shitty lcd. This way fans won't have to buy a new console in a couple of years just to get a decent screen;
>Nintendo actively encourages fan projects and games instead of shutting them down
>nintendo keeps investing in original new games instead of milking the same 30yo series again and again and sell as new games what are basically dlcs or graphical updates.

>>715045768
>kids dont play switch, nor they care about them
>99% of the switches are owned by adults
this doesn't go into your favor
nor is it true
having worked at game retail store and dealt with tendies and wii u and switch 1 sales, majority of the shoppers of nintendo stuff were kids, like 90-95%, and the rest, the "adults" made me hate nintardo fans so much, having to deal and talk to these "people" and listen to their utter cringe was abysmal, we would play coin flips and the loser would have to deal with a nintardo customer, because they were the biggest spenders(money wasters) and the worst part wasnt even the cringe you had to deal with
IT WAS THE FUCKING SMELL
in my years of working there I haven't seen a clean, skinny, non-greasy nintendo fucker
all of you were fat, greasy, smelly, autistic retards and none of us working wanted to deal with you

>>715056750
>>715056807
phones can emulate them but but DS/3DS benefit the most from original hardware, 3DS can also emulate everything up to some PS1 games, the hacking/homebrew scene is great, and most importantly I simply don't like to play games on my phone

>>715049859
nooo your wrong
switch 2 is better sorry

>>715051608
but the worst part is
it doesnt
switch 2 docked barely beats the eck
in handheld its performing worse than eck
see >>715050497

>>715041057 (OP)
>Spectacular.... Nintendo's hardware is.... BETTER than last gen!
Tendie standards are comically low, remember when the 3DS had a lower resolution than the PSP and they were okay with it?

>>715057017
Im actually a bit upset for DF to make a video that promotes messages like "dlss is amazing, switch 2 is energy efficient" as in you should buy that device, and then they dont mention the shit aspeccts of the device like the screen so that video is spammed to encourage people to buy a device with the slowest screen in recorded human history

>>715059457
sample bias. why as an adult would you go into a retail game store when you can just order, only the tardiest of tards would

Can I play Dragon Age Origins on Switch

>>715060224
>only the tardiest of tards would
only proving my point

>>715058010
>tendies can't count

>>715041057 (OP)
I just Switched 2 a Steam Deck
because i can play my sex games on eck
cant do that on a kiddy console
sorry nintardies you lost

>>715059413
Funny guy

Why are people so mad about this? Deck is ageing hardware. At some point it had to become outdated.

Tick tock Deckbeards.
Your gamer sex cult will crumble soon.

>>715053376
>>715053683
>retarded /v/ermin still don't understand that 30 fps on handheld is not the same experience as 30 fps on your PC

30 fps is more than fine for tiny screens

>>715041057 (OP)
>Steam Deck got (headcanon) by Switch 2.
I mean are we reeeeally comparing portable PC to fucking month old console with sub-PS4 specs? lol

Weren't you fags ripping PS5 for having "one game"? GTFO with this shilling.

>>715058205
Tendies were shitting all over DF, calling them every name in the book and the moment they can use them to try and gloat that isn't just their usual salesfagging, they hop right on that DF dick to try and pretend a docked mode invalidates every massive benefit the Deck has over the S2, and also ignoring the S2 is far worse in handheld mode while having no games to play. Tendies basically went full snoy.

>>715060653
>30 fps is more than fine for
No it's fucking not lol. I even own PS Shita, and I still can tell if game I play on it, is 60 fps or not, after one second worth of gameplay.
Every PC game in 2001 used to have 60 fps. There is no fucking excuse. There never was.
Slop only "tastes good" if you refuse to eat anything else.

>>715060653
No it's not. I happen to have a handheld device with a small screen and 45 FPS is the absolute minimum that's tolerable. Anything less than that is shit.

>>715045980
glad to see tendies enjoying a shitty antigrav with wallriding

>>715045980
what game

>>715053480
Switch 2 is made for Nintendo games first, hence Mario Kart world looking excellent, I'd say they largely made the right decision, the die shrink is going to get a good boost in battery life, I just think they should have given docked mode a bigger boost, even used magnets to align and seal the Switch 2 to an air exhaust to improve cooling.
I'd say the praise is more for the internal hardware itself than Nintendo, that's a pretty big gap in power, but gen on gen leaps in power efficiency haven't really been that big, Stem Deck 2 won't be a significant jump from Steam Deck 1, unless they further boost the battery.

The deck is a laptop built like a handheld. The people who want it will buy it. I didn’t get mine till last year

>>715046667
Still nioh 2. Also ace combat 7.

>>715053339
God I hope so.
I would love a Thinkpad that could last all the day long without using huge batteries as a crutch.

Decktroons got real quiet after this video dropped.

Don't buy valve hardware. Steam is fine. Hardware? No.

>>715060165
Steam Deck is RDNA2 and Switch 2 is Ampere, these are the same generation architectures and Switch 2 is significantly more efficient, although it makes cuts to the CPU and Ram that are completely justified.
Here's where things get a bit crazy, the Steam Deck 2 will probably be RDNA 4 and generationally the leaps haven't been significant, Switch 2 is 10x the power of the original Switch, Steam Deck 2 will be less than 2x the power of the original Steam Deck, unless Valve wants to give it an 80Wh battery. the GPU architecture just hasn't improved that much generationally, even on the CPU front Zen has been a bit iffy.

>>715064913
wrong
it's going to be udna on tsmc 2nm
that's 6x the transistor density and rdna4 alone was huge when it comes to gains

>>715064913
> When you have to employ tech buzzwords to market your shit.
No one actually cares about tech, just give us gamea to play.

Ill wait for deck 2 when I can actually play most of the games.

>>715060547
Context?

>>715041057 (OP)
Impossible to murder it because it wasn’t alive in the first place

>>715064913
It's probably going to use UDNA, just like the PS6 and the next Xbox.

>>715041057 (OP)
Is Dark Souls optimized on Switch 2?

Also why did they never release Dark Souls 2 and 3 on Switch?

I'm actually really surprised the Deck beat the Switch 2. That system is 4 years old and retailed for $400. The game isn't even optimized for the hardware down the metal. It's just the regular PC version.

>>715041742
You may not understand because its impossible to put your self in other people's shoes...but imagine, that YOU had a job, and you needed to commute long distances on a train to get to it...do you understand now?

>>715069050
Nintendo cut costs on several components of the Switch 2, and it simply cannot exceed 50% of its processing power when in handheld mode.
Even though it is twice as powerful as the Steam Deck, when it is placed in handheld mode, it performs worse, starting from even lower resolutions.

>>715067096
What games are you wanting to play on deck that it can’t handle? The only games I own that it says it’s not optimized for are Starfield and Boulder’s Gate 3.

>imagine owning a steamed dick

>>715064913
With RadV supporting FSR 4 on RDNA 3, and the apparent existence of RDNA 4.5 for SOC chips, a second gen Deck might not wait for UDNA.
Even if it does have an updated architecture, the next Deck probably will be a smaller more evolutionary jump, rolling improvements in architecture efficiency as much into lower power draw for longer battery life as increased performance.

Of course if more games embrace FSR 4 support, the current RDNA 2 Decks will still benefit since those games will also naturally support FSR 3.1. Right now too many games are still using FSR 1, 2, or the initial version of 3.

>>715069050
>I'm actually really surprised the Deck beat the Switch 2

You should be. Because it didn't.

>>715069517
There is no RDNA4.5. The next gen mobile chips are the same 3.5 family as the Strix lineup

>>715069792
I didn't watch the video, which one performed better in handheld mode?
Thanks.

>>715068969
>2
No one cares.
>3
PS4 game, wouldn't run on Switch 1.

>>715069050
The hardware is from the same generation, 2019-2020.

>>715070089
>which one performed better in handheld mode?

In handheld they're much the same. But the Switch 2 is using only 30% of the power to run Cyberpunk than the Deck. Overall Switch is a superior machine because it's closed source, so every game is optimized. Unlike Steam Deck where no game is optimized.

At least 33% of all posts in this thread were made by the same autist (the one who keeps posting erictranny, pcvegan, etc.).
Now seriously, do you have any idea how much time it takes to achieve this feat? It's not just a matter of programming bots, the guy literally lives on /v/, he posts fucking 24 hours a day here, he always posts the same things, he gets banned all the time but 2 minutes later he's posting again. How does this motherfucker even survive in the first place if he's decided to dedicate his entire life to shitting on /v/?
He doesn't even have time to play video games, LOL. It's possible he doesn't even have a Nintendo Switch, which is hilarious if you think about it.

>>715064913
Strix point, their current generation of mobile apu, have made huge gains over the RDNA 2. Deck 2 will get a version with a stripped down cpu. The Switch 2 has hardware accelerated dlss. It's not nearly as good as in gpus but it's enough to make it run much more efficiently than the deck

>>715069924
There are more improved 3 series revisions on the way, but it does seem like GFX1250 / RDNA 4.5 may be after that as a stop-gap. It just started turning up in commits last month.

>>715041374
This. You know that Don Draper meme with the jew saying I feel bad for you? That’s the deck super fans. Don Draper is the switch 2 saying I don’t think about you at all.

>>715070480
>Overall Switch is a superior machine because it's closed source, so every game is optimized. Unlike Steam Deck where no game is optimized
That’s not how optimization works at all. For starters, optimization is an issue for PC due to hardware and software variability - something the deck doesn’t have just like any console.

Don't care, not buying the bingbox

>>715069050
Console ports today tend to be tool assisted. The approach isn't that different from the way Proton works, and the tools are often the same, or have the same functionality as components of Proton.
Proton has mostly won out against tool-assisted ports because Proton gets more development attention, and it stays more up to date.

Some games also offer Deck optimized versions, that aren't that different from the same concessions games make to optimize for the Switch 2 like only installing lower resolution textures than in the normal version intended for larger screens.

>>715042750
>6 million
Oy vey! Seriously though, these devices were never in competition with each other. Both were supply-constrained due to demand except the supply and demand was a bit different. Nintendo made millions, Valve made hundreds of thousands. The deck is a niche enthusiast device, larger and heavier and containing a loud fan. The switch 2 sold more in a day than the deck did in 3 years. It’s sold as much (if not more by now) than all the handheld PCs (including deck) combined since it launches just a little over a month ago. Deck fans can spin this however they want but the reality is these devices are not even in competition with each other. Nobody interested in Nintendo games is going to buy a bulky handheld PC with a loud fan to download roms and autistically adjust emulator settings on it versus buying a switch or switch 2.

>>715057878
>>715057975
kek still bubblin' and boilin'

It's always funny when /v/ talks shit about anything and gets blown the fuck out each time. It's a never-ending comedy when people here have all the ambition and confidence to do so and none of the brainpower to back it up

>>715071102
Their latest and most powerful igpu is the 8060s and that's still RDNA 3.5. 4.5 won't release before UDNA if at all

>>715073097
Both are kind of shit in terms of power these days and are being beaten by new generation Snapdragon. Even current gen Intel mobile igpus outperform them. The Switch's main advantage is power efficiency because ita cooling solutions and battery are shit

>>715071421
There's a Switch 2 edition of Cyberpunk 2077.

There's no "Steam Deck version".

The deck is a piece of technology that nothing Nintendo makes will ever come close to
I probably won’t get a switch 2 until the next Pokemon, which I expect to suck like SV anyways

>>715042750
Switch 2 has no games. Nintenbros are worse scum than Snoyggers

>>715046178
>You called the Deck a switch killer but this completely separate device is stronger than it

uh huh

>>715042750
>>715042343
>Switch owners are all children
Fitting

>>715074216
You niggers are wrong about literally EVERYTHING. Every day is a /v/tard performing a circus act for lurkers as they dedicate entire threads to talking shit about things ONLY because it's popular. i honestly cant think of a board that gets everything they say blown back in their own face, you know, besides /pol/ voting for a child killing pedo lmao

>>715052281
>and the problem with arm is that it's dogshit for compatibility,

There is, quite literally, nothing about ARM that makes it "dogshit" for compatibility. All modern toolchains can compile to arm. Even Sony's LLVM branch can compile to arm and they don't have an arm device. I wish retards like you stopped talking about things you don't understand at all.

>>715045768
This is flat out wrong. All my friends kids have Nintendo consoles and only Nintendo consoles. If they play something like Fortnite they do it on a tablet or a phone.

>talk a about a game/console
>sorry deleted :)
>Talk shit about a game/console
>Yup, that's staying up so i have a melty during a work week
lmao

>>715069050
Cyberpunk is optimized for the Deck. The devs went back and made a steam deck optimized setting.

>>715074720
Popularity doesn't mean they're not shit. They're both objectively weaker than what would currently be considered low end products these days. The switch 2's specs are horrid because 1. It's Nintendo and they're always a generation behind. 2. The actual price of the console is 350 but is jacked up due to regional pricing and brand loyalty. The Deck is shit these days because it's out-dated. It was good at the time of release and it didn't do as well because the target demographic already had PCs.

The selling point of Steam Deck is that you don't have to buy your games again as the library is interchangeable.
A more powerful system doesn't matter if there's no backwards compatability.
That's why I'll never buy a console ever again, PS2 was the last of its kind and PS3 brought about the end times.
On PC, the hardware can change, but the games stay. I can still play games I own from the 90's and early 2000's.
Hell, I can play every console and handheld game between 1990 to 2020 on an emulator. People who don't see the glory that is PC are just mentally stunted.

And really, what the fuck is the point of the comparison in OP.
Both games run at 30fps, Switch 2 dipping to 28. 30fps is absolutely unacceptable, it's a literal slideshow.

>>715075107
Most people with the deck just want to play older games out of their collection while sitting around outside or something
I dont care that it can’t handle the newest thing, I just wanna play Assassin’s Creed and Fallout on it right now

>>715073892
That would be just about normal for AMD. SOCs are on a slower cycle than the discrete data center hardware and the consumer cards, and use an older architecture that has the kinks worked out.
Look at the Deck's SOC, it is still RDNA 2, RDNA 4 is out now, and even when it was new RDNA 3 was just about to arrive.

A Deck tier system isn't going to be the latest and greatest. It needs to be mature and well optimized to fit in the extremely low wattage handheld space.

>>715075107
Why are people like you so retarded. You look at specs in a vacuum and make incredulous idiotic statements. The Switch 2 and the Deck are not weak. Every single chip that gets produced that is stronger than them, for their actual use case which is to be used as a handheld, always gets gated by power draw and ends up performing within margin of errors. Dipshits like you literally think there is a magical 3x chip out there that can work in the same form factor as these consoles with batteries that last longer than 10 minutes. It doesn't exist. Apple makes some of the best chips out there and guess what? They aren't significantly faster. Please go be retarded somewhere else.

>>715042343
fix'd

I don't want to play Switch 2 games though

>>715074720
Biden is also a pedo but is even worse than Trump. Hillary was crazy and also a murderer and a pedo. American politicians are all pedos so we have to choose between the less bad pedo.

>>715075528
*game
they only have Mario Kart

>>715075462
based

>>715075674
Epstein was best friends with Trump for over a decade
Epstein died in federal prison while Trump was president
Trump is a pedophile and on that list

>>715075387
>for their actual use case which is to be used as a handheld, always gets gated by power draw and ends up performing within margin of errors
They would not because they scale better with power thanks to their more efficient architecture. The form factor of the APIs is literally already mobile and focused on efficiency laptop that you can go buy right now for a mobile gaming experience. The newest igpu generate far more performance per watt because that's the main focus for Intel and AMD this generation. You can underclock them and still get superior performance and fewer lows. The Switch 2 was chugging even during the showcase because Nintendo cheaped out on the battery and the devs had to seriously throttle the chip.

>>715075806
Sure but I am sure you did not even read what I wrote because you didn't counter anything I said.

>>715076040
I read what you said and I firmly believe you’re wrong. Trump is having meltdowns on live tv over being asked about the Epstein list
Your cult leader is a pedophilic rapist

Why are snoys so butthurt about the switch?

>>715069202
>commute long distances on a train
I'm not a communist liberal so I'll never understand.

>>715041393
So you're retracting all comparisons between Switch 1 and and Steam Deck you spammed here 3 years ago?

Let's face the facts. If you don't have a Switch 2 at this point... you're not white and you're probably a leftoid.

>>715076787
but switch 2 is asian coded? with the whole slave ecosystem and all...

>>715076671
No, because you cannot play PC games on the Switch 2. Only Switch 1 and Switch 2 games. On Deck you can play PC games and Switch 1 games and in a year or so Switch 2 as well.

>>715041057 (OP)
>Shillfoundry

>>715076671
>deck is a pc that can do pretty much anything except play the most demanding games including emulating the switch
>switch 2 tied it in the few functions it can do as a walled garden toy

>>715077651
>in a year
oh nonononono he doesnt know

>>715077907
Switch 2 was already hacked to the point where the firmware can be isolated and downloaded. The marketing speak about anti-piracy was to appease investors. Nintendo doesn't have cyber security on to level that could stop even hobbyist hackers groups from finding their way in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q9hGZCUdFE

I just bought an 'eck because of this thread

>>715079296
>11 jul
hello ken sama

>>715076226
I just called Trump a pedo and I think he has a 70% chance of being in that list. How is he my leader lmao. You need to seek help. You are the one in a cult.

>>715079375
konichiwa dude!

>>715076359
One game

>>715060653
>30 fps is more than fine
No, its not, your delusional or a troll for trying to keep pushing this meme.

>>715080004
you don't get it
nintendo optimised the screen for 30 fps
because if you go above you get ghosting

I think the trackpads are what set the deck apart honestly. I never really liked playing shooters using kb&m, but I love playing shooters like RoR2 on the deck using the trackpads to aim. Obviously not a good choice for something more competitive like CS tho.

They're also good for paced strategy games.

In terms of power, even if the switch 2 is more powerful now I'm sure a more powerful steam deck will get released at some point.

The only advantage the switch will has is nintendo exclusives.

>>715079296
>I bought a 3 years old underpowered overpriced piece of shit
...okay?

>>715080253
Kek. There's ghosting in Cyberpunk and that runs before 30 fps

>sacrifice mods, free cloud saves with local backup, cheap cd keys, abandonware, piracy and emulation just to get a few fps more on Cyberpunk
Can't i just get a more powerful handheld and still bypass all this? I'm pretty sure you can install Gog or Steam on them

>>715080409
>underpowered
Pray tell what is overpowered in the current market.

>>715080489
Probably something like the OneXPlayer X1 Pro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj1CWvnGkJI The 8060s in the Max + 395 is even more powerful and energy efficient

>>715080409
Yes so I can play older games in bed. I can even use it to stream beefier games from my pc too, can the switch 2 do that? ;)

>>715080489
Z1E handhelds are appropriately powered at the moment, but Z2E ones will be coming out in the fall. Switch is also pretty good thanks to DLSS. But the Steam Deck is just laughable performance-wise in late 2025. This sector has had breakneck speed advances in the past 3.5 years, since the release of the Deck. The Deck was awesome for opening the floodgates and kickstarting the handheld craze, but it has the first mover disadvantage of becoming shit fast.

>>715080798
>that form factor
Absolutely vile (though I would pay stupid amounts of money for a power glove-esque personal PC to live out my Shadowrun/SMT/Cyberpunk fetishes)

>>715080990
>Switch
>good
No. The switch couldn't even play Daemon x Machina at 30fps, which the deck can play at a stable 60fps. I dunno about the Switch 2, but it seems unable to play Mario Kart with any semblance of stability.
>just dock it bro
Irrelevant argument.
>Z1E
No AMOLED/OLED, no buy.

>>715081307
Legion Go 2 will be Z2E with 120Hz VRR HDR OLED and 32GB unified RAM. I'll be buying it day 1. It should very much shit all over Switch 2 docked mode, and be about 4x as performant as Switch 2 handheld.

>>715041057 (OP)
Well, that settle it! I am totally buying a Snitch (tm) now!

>>715081582
Those are good specs and I would get something like that if I didn't have a gaming PC already (which is also my workstation, so I have 64gb RAM and a 9950x3d). This whole mess is frustrating because all I want is a retro emulation machine with a great display, great controls, and enough power to upscale PS2 with a chipset that likes linux. Android is the fucking bane of my google-fied existence.

>>715081808
If you're a big guy the Go 2 might be good for you. But it will be big and heavy like the Go 1 for sure. I don't mind because I'm tall and have huge hands, but it's not for manlets. If you check out Russ's videos about it, the Go 1 is like twice as big as him, lmao.

>>715041057 (OP)
>>715042343
its hillarious seeing tendies do a complete 180 (again) worshipping DF now just because it had one instance of positivity for Switch 2 after all this time but not even 4 weeks ago tendies were screaming at the top of their lungs calling DF a fucking ''snoy shill asset'' .

>>715041057 (OP)
Until I can play my backlog and emulate on the switch 2 I don’t care.

>>715081307
>I dunno about the Switch 2, but it seems unable to play Mario Kart with any semblance of stability.
lolwut mario kart is constant 60

>>715082005
>Digital Sodomites

>>715081010
tobefair it's not exclusively a handheld and is actually a tablet pc with detachable gamepads. It would be a huge waste to relegate hx 370 that's not stripped down on a device exclusive to gaming. The price isn't that far off from hx 370 laptops so they were definitely aiming that market.

>>715081950
Seems overkill for my use case, but I also have never ventured into handhelds besides mainline entries. I've had pretty much every "major" handheld since Game Boy/Game Gear but I'm gonna have a nasty surgery and will be stuck in bed for a bit so I thought I would venture into the chinkheld arena. 99% of it is hot shit or something that doesn't fit my needs perfectly and that tickles my autism.

I am a big guy and wanted to get a retroid mini v2 just to see if I would ever actually use a handheld post-op, but it seems too tiny and thus uncomfortable.

>>715082205
yes these are the people tendies are worshipping now

>>715082504
>post-op
YWNBAW

>>715082541
>the old and fat
>the less old but just as fat
>and the gay

>>715059413
almost none of this is true though

>>715083192
why cant zoomers into sarcasm

>>715083192
that's the joke
it's not talking about the switch

>>715043652
handeld is just unfair for the deck since it can't run anything for longer than 30 minutes on its batteries alone

>>715082630
I'm having ankle surgery, dingus.

>>715083650
it absolutely can
the difference is that the deck's battery is robust enough to the point where the screen isn't taking up half of the battery power budget unlike the switch 2

>>715083192
anon...

>>715083192
you dense idiot lmao

nvidia chads win again!

>>715083687
>cutting off your ankle to look more feminine

>>715083650
Handheld battery is fine. Not sure why you're making shit up to shill a docked console with 2 games

>>715083969
They're working on an ARM based APU too and it will be on par with AMD's Strix Halo. You can thank Apple for starting this ARMs race. I'm enjoying it.

>>715083468
>>715083483
>>715083892
>>715083914
no need to samefag zoomoid
Shitch 2 lost
PC won

>>715084731
>he doubles down
anon...

>>715084731
Anon I...

>>715041057 (OP)
>deck plays steam games
>switch plays nintendo games
it's that easy, there's no competition

>>715085531
but the deck is better at playing nintendo games?

>>715064913
Steam Deck 2 will be Zen 5 RDNA 5/UDNA/new star since it's the only one available and fits the bill for performance and efficiency for Valve.

Reminder that tendies are closeted fags

>>715076554
>>715041742
amerilard detected
have being stuck in traffic for a third of your entire life

>>715083805
why lie so hard?

>>715085531
dont forget Wii U emulation. the touchpads on the deck are almost perfect for emulating the wiimote. played through super mario galaxy 2 on the deck and was very surprised at how well the controls were.

>>715071385
The irony of this post and all the replies from nintendobabbies before it.

they are nvidia and dlss shills
its to get clicks on their videos
also the switch version doesnt look as good, its like pc vs console version of a game

>>715090156
what lie
the deck's battery sucks when it's getting pushed because it's the soc that gets taxed, the switch has a much smaller battery which makes the screen's drain much more impactful

>>715090156
>>715083805
The processor consumes around 8 watts on performance mode. Afaik screen is only 4-8 watts depending on brightness and whether or not you're gaming. That's with it being slow as shit and not bright enough to actually be HDR even with the blue cranked up.

>>715055473
The Steam Deck OLED already seems big enough, would Valve go for 8-inches or stick with 7.4 inches but bumping the resolution to 1200p?

>>715041057 (OP)
Isn't steam deck the tablet for pedophiles and gay bara groomers that shitted and flopped?

>>715075462
Why can't PC vegans meme?

>>715084360
>nvidia
>APU

>>715094882
You're thinking of switch 1

>>715095004
I mean yeah a significant portion of the company is staffed by jeets

>>715095075
Don't think so.

>>715094882
why would a pedophile pick the deck when the switch has a significantly larger kid audience by design

This angers the tendy

Also shitty weather edition

>>715041057 (OP)
>2025 hardware is only marginally better than 2021 hardware
If I was Nintendo I would be shitting myself

>>715099046
I think it's less about the pirating and more about it being a handheld so they think Valve is weaseling in on Nintendo's territory and feel they need to defend for nothing.

>>715050343
But you can play Cyberpunk with mods on Deck

>>715041057 (OP)
I don't get the draw of a Switch 2 if you're an adult. Like its not hard to just afford a pc and a steam deck and have best of both worlds there. Unless you absolutely must have the newest trash nintendo overprices and tosses out the door theres like zero reason to own a switch 2.

>>715099046
>>715099154
OMG IS THAT BEER
WOW

>>715064913
>Switch 2 is 10x the power of the original Switch
lol

>>715094981
It's easy to disparage and mouth off creations of others when you have never created anything yourself.
Everyone's a critic...

>>715099046
People can enjoy their switch 2 if they got one, just saying I like what I got already XD

>>715041437
I remember you guys crying because the switch needed to stay docked to perform comparably to the shit deck.
and without being docked, you had worse FPS and 20% less battery life.