Thread 715041059

When did the industry turn into just one giant incestous, nepotistic woketard circlejerk?

>>715041059 (OP)
the 2010s

It doesn't matter. That game will fail. Just like all the bad games that are coming out which are failing. The industry is bleeding, and people still making these bad decisions will just cause more bleeding, until corrections are made. Anyone thinking 2010s development mentality is viable will suffer.

>>715041059 (OP)
When (((they))) started smelling profit.

>>715041196
>It doesn't matter. That game will fail. Just like all the bad games that are coming out which are failing.
That doesnt matter he'll just get hired again.

>>715041284
Will they? Microsoft fired 9000 people last week. We're seeing constant layoffs, studio shutterings, and plenty of flops. These companies do not have infinite money, and after a certain point, they either die, or take corrective measures.

>>715041059 (OP)
This goes against the

>lol get fired

Narrative

>>715041059 (OP)
Just be aware they all live nearby each other Translators, Directors, etc they live in the Coastal Region of California. Go look up their Headquarters, they all live 15 to 30 minutes away from each other.

>>715041626
That last wildfire wasn't nearly big enough.

>>715041469
>the end result of wokeism is fast tracking the great jeet replacement.

they never get fired. they just get shuffled around from project to project because AAA games are a fucking disaster and they throw thousands of incompetent developers at them thinking it will make it faster/better/cheaper
it does the exact opposite plus they insert their terrible taste into the game
REPEAT FOREVER

>>715042098
Jeets are even more nepotistic.

>>715041469
You can be sure that the worst of them will definitely get hired. Actually talented people might get forced to change profession or something, but activist grifters will get jobs in videogame industry with the help of their clique.

>>715043240
If they don't make good games, their luck will eventually run out. It's like starving a parasite, or pulling weeds. The root of the problem is deeply embedded, and unfortunately, a lot of people are going to wind up suffering to clean it out. This is an issue 15 years in the making, though, and it's just naturally collapsing in on itself.

It's a pure sit up, or shut up moment. Are you making something people want? No? Then the $300 million dollars you spent on it isn't going to be recouped, and your company is going to die.

>>715041059 (OP)
"Warn you we tried, listen you did not. Now screwed we all will be."

>>715043375
Eventually sure, but the problem with AAA companies is that they too big and thus can be "collapsing" for decades.

>>715043375
what suck is the part when they take down entire building down along with them. where many decent people worked too

I agree with the 2010s
They are all organized in industry groups, kind of like the animation industry. Very clannish, ludicrously nepotistic and have extremely silly ways of judging each other
There's also an industry-wide blacklist for people who leak/break NDA
Thankfully indie culture is breaking free from that shit, if I ever have to go to another networking thing it'll be too soon

>>715043537
Well we're seeing major losses left and right, and we're also seeing talks about how the next generation will see ANOTHER bloat in budgets, which is ridiculously unsustainable. Right now, we have games that are $300 million dollars, and take 5-7 years to make. Imagine what going even bigger than that would be? Imagine if one of those projects failed?

The bubble is popping. We're seeing it every single day. Something is going to change. I don't know what, but you can't have years of job losses and shrinking sales, and think: "alright, let's go even bigger and more reckless with the next generation."

The ones bankrolling all the woke slop have access to a literal money printer.

Nepotism is the foundation of all business, get some friends and get used to it.

>>715044041
>2021

Entire studios have been shuttering consistently since 2023. The party's fucking over. The 2010s boom of gaming having infinite money are gone. Not just gaming either, we're seeing all of western entertainment shrinking and tightening belts.

>>715041469
>Will they?
Yes.

>>715041172
>the 2010s
this roughly after 2016 aslso when generally the quality of output collapsed aside form projects begun before then

>>715044123
>we're seeing all of western entertainment shrinking and tightening belts
And yet all the AAA studios are still churning out woke slop.

Because trannies always fail upwards until they kill themselves

>>715044194
That have been in development since far before 2023. Again. 5-7 year development cycles. Games releasing right now were conceived during, or even before the pandemic.

>>715044160
I don't think so.

>>715041059 (OP)
>The industry can't survive another $200M flop!
>Let's hire a bunch of proven failures to create a dozen $75M flops!
The gaming industry deserves to burn.

>>715041469
>Will they?
Yes, HE will.
>These companies do not have infinite money
except they do because they're funded by GMOs and hedge funds e.g. Larry Fink and people like him
>after a certain point, they either die, or take corrective measures.
and what point is that? people have been saying this for at least 10 years. two more weeks?

>>715043751
>The bubble is popping.
I'll believe it when it will actually pop. Or rather I believe that it's popping (technically), but I'm skeptical we'll see any changes anytime soon.

>>715044473
Nigger where have you been for the last several years? Where have you been since last WEEK. We are seeing constant layoffs and studio shutterings in the tens of thousands. Xbox laid off 9000 people last week. Last fucking week.

>>715044560
one round of layoffs of only 9000 coupled with an H1B hiring push of around ~15000. they aren't losing employees, they're gaining cheaper ones.

>>715044694
They literally shuttered studios. Those are just gone. This has been happening for years. There's a whole goddamn Wikipedia article on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932025_video_game_industry_layoffs

The bull run is over. The money is not there anymore. You cannot just release shit, and it failing is fine. We're seeing that time and time again. It's not 2018 anymore.

>>715044796
evil always wins. we just haven't been able to see what shape their victory will take yet.

>>715044041
>>715044194
Niggas are still using ancient doomer posts while the companies themselves are say "yeah this is unsustainable and it may be too late for us to pivot". Many of these systems they were using literally don't exist anymore, they've already been shut down or had the money reallocated.

>>715044123
>Not just gaming either, we're seeing all of western entertainment shrinking and tightening belts.
it's not just gaming. Tech is in employmenet recession generally and is in it's third year, Mass layoffs and the death of local servers have destoyed the whole sector. Mass imigration is driving down wages for everything from nurses to van drivers . Outside of ivory tower stuff like civil servants, polticans and achademics life is rough. Business like uber have destroyed stable income for many people, same for airbnb destroying rental markets in many cities worldwide. Retail is in terminal decline, bars and resteraunts are closing everywhere. Stuff like cigareets and newspapers that was the bread and butter draw for walk in conveniece stores is dead,

>>715044256
>That have been in development since far before 2023. Again. 5-7 year development cycles. Games releasing right now were conceived during, or even before the pandemic.
This excuse has its limits. A modder can create a hot version of a girl in a month. Another modder can add a storyline. Another modder can remove a storyline. Another modder can smooth out the gameplay. You're telling me that these bloated studios create a more polished version of this in a few months?
>You don't understand how complex the process is. First the change has to go through a psychotic MBA who doesn't know anything about videogames. Then it has to go through an army of Karens via HR, marketing, sensitivity readers, and intimacy specialists. Then it has to go through another psychotic MBA who looks into monetization. Then it goes through an army of useless "specialists" who make sure that it's "authentic" or some shit. Then it has to go through the board of MBAs who send it back to Karen to make sure that she's not offended. Then they take a vacation in some locale that vaguely resembles the setting and call it research. Then the process stars over.
THEN FIRE THE KARENS, RETARDED BUSINESS MAJORS, AND SPECIALISTS AND STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.

>>715044872
Man go jack your clitty about it somewhere else. I'm sure there's a bnwo thread on gif for you or something.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/martineparis/2025/07/09/sweeping-layoffs-hit-tech-and-media-giants-citing-ai-take-over/
Blue Origin, the Jeff Bezos space venture, is axing 1,000 jobs, nearly 10% of its workforce, to restructure for automation.

Bumble is laying off 30% of its team, about 240 people, to better compete with AI-powered dating apps like Hinge.

Business Insider is cutting 21% of its team as it goes all-in on AI to respond to the decline in Google search traffic.

Dropbox downsized by 20% at the end of last year in its transition to AI offerings.

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Its not AI though. It is tech recession.

>>715045152
>You're telling me that these bloated studios create a more polished version of this in a few months?

No. They absolutely could change things. But these games are developed by True Believers, who think their woke products will be well received. They've spent the better part of a decade making them. How could people not love them? They won't change them. Those are just evil bigots, who don't understand. Then the game releases, and it flops, and the studio has layoffs, or outright closes. Many of these companies are terminal in their decay. If they survive, they either have to pivot, or not learn from their mistakes, and die later.

Tech gets Indian CEOs.
Tech goes into recession.
Next the accounting scandals emerge.

>>715045305
Any company that actually paid sweet baby inc to tell them to make it lame and put a troon in it deserves to go broke but there are mass layoffs and poverty sweeping virtually all white collar jobs.

Microsoft literally can't give windows 11 away for free.

>>715041469
>These companies do not have infinite money,
Microsoft has infinite money. They fire people just to seem good on reports.

>>715041059 (OP)
When the inclusivity BS started to get accepted in the industry. Insteresting how inclusiveness only means including people who are part of their clique, isn't it?

>>715045783
I'll admit there are probably some companies where, if they fell apart, it would probably signal a greater cultural shift. Microsoft will likely be relevant for the entirety of our lifetime. Xbox? Microsoft's gaming division as a whole? Maybe not.

>>715041059 (OP)
too many studios moved to commiefornia

>>715041059 (OP)
this is how their brains work
>this person knows how to work on big budget fantasy game
>this person knows how to ship a product
that's it

>>715044041
what kind of troglodyte still thinks blackrock or vanguard are keeping these companies afloat when all we've been seeing in the vidya industry is mass layoffs, studio closures and abysmal stock market performance for the past 5 years

>>715041059 (OP)
Isn't this game already cancelled? Pretty sure there were news recently about WOTC/Hasbro cancelling AAA DnD game.

>>715041059 (OP)
Just another game to ignore

>>715043751
Why is everyone still talking about this like they aren't being written blank checks to do this shit with direct and indirect subsidies via investors with government subsidies? They can't and won't fail, if they do don't be surprised when they start getting bailouts too as the tent cities keep growing. We're past clown world, even demon world, this is abstract world where games are now a strategic information warfare asset as people get poorer, more miserable and driven deeper into escapism. Probably don't even know what digra was. Its not fun and vidya games no more nigga.

>>715041059 (OP)
>new Dungeons & Dragons video game

Seems like the he-she would be a great fit. D&D has been pozzed for almost decade. Real niggas play OSR (preferably BX or 1E).

>WotC
I instantly believe it.

>>715041059 (OP)
Don't look up where these writers go when they flunk out of vidya industry. There's a reason comic writers are even bigger joke.

>>715041059 (OP)
Let's be honest, when was the last time we had a good D&D game? It's a cursed franchise
>b-but BG3...
That was just D:OS 3 with extra steps.

>>715046024
I think you're talking about their VTT, unless I missed something.

WotC really needs a good stock plummeting flop to get their heads out their asses. It's a shame that baldur's gate 3 was such a success, successes only breed overconfidence and laxism

>>715046123
>Why is everyone still talking about this like they aren't being written blank checks

Because studios are shuttering, and jobs are objectively being lost? Where are the fucking blank checks, buddy? Cause I'm counting 40000+ lost jobs in the games industry in the past three years.

>>715041059 (OP)
In case you thought Ghost of Yotei just might stand a chance.
>"Ghost of Yotei" is being written by a team that includes John Dombrow and Courtney Woods, who previously worked on the narrative for "Dragon Age: The Veilguard".

>>715046219
He's talking about the blackrock boogieman poltards told him about

>>715041059 (OP)
Don't care. I'm not the target audience.

>>715046176
Video game devs don't really care about D&D. Why bother with the licensing when D&D has basically lost all identity and you can create your own knockoff world/ruleset instead? I'm pretty sure Larian only did it with BG3 because they wanted to out of passion.

>>715045903
MIcrosoft is smoke and mirrors. Cloud is a failure, not just azure but AWS and google. Masive accouonting fraud (AI) is coverung this up and shortfalls anre paid fro with job cuts.

Reality, The economic cost of existig Mirrosoft customers actually moving to e.g Azure en mass would put the USA in recession for decades. The promise of far away computing and storage being just as good as local storage and computing was a lie, its slower, just as or more insecure, vastly more costly and just as unrelaible.

>>715046219
>I'm counting 40000+ lost jobs in the games industry
it should be triple that.

>huh I thought them millennials were supposed to love ex-tumblr blue checkmarks?
t. a confused boomer

>>715046123
>they aren't being written blank checks to do this shit
They aren't anymore. The nipple has run dry.

>>715046394
D&D has a big following. Dispite all the flaming its been a good product for many players throughout it's different iterations and is generallya ssociated with quality, It's been a brand in gaming forever. Serious question and not made in /pol/ sneer, are you from the third world? I'm tryinng to figure out how you don't know this. Fully fleshed out unniverses like forgotten realms are part of that.

>>715045152
>modder can create
Using tools that already exist
They arent making new things like the devs are idiot
Try making a mod for hoi4 and compare it to literally making hoi4

>>715046605
Their tools already exist in this case, idiot. And not only that, but they're native to the project.

>>715046594
Mate, D&D has had ZERO relevance in video games for at least 20 years until BG3 rolled around. It's something people "know about", but not really.

the funny thing is that investers owe literally all of humanity trillions of dollars in debt but they just keep giving away trillions to fund slop because money isn't even real.

>>715046594
>>715046701
I'm willing to bet half of BG3 players don't even realize its D&D. More than that probably have never played tabletop D&D.

>>715046262
Welp I was holding out some hope for this game. Enjoyed the first one and don't care if the new lead is a chick as long as it's good. But those fucks will make absolutely sure to throw girlboss shit in your face. Man...

>>715046701
>Mate, D&D has had ZERO relevance in video games for at least 20 years until BG3 rolled around.
which was a tremendous fuckup on atari/wotc part. how do you let the biggest fantasy ip just get phased out of video games?

>>715046219
You really think the layoffs are about saving money like they're some small business scraping by? What're you twelve? They're consolidating.

>>715041059 (OP)
>I know, I'll just pay that guy who made that terrible game and ruined his company to make my game!

>>715046701
Well, there's also MTG but overall I agree. That while DnD is big, it's tabletop big, not vidya big.

Code monkey here. What career do I move into to get away from jeets? I expect to need to go back to college to get a mechanical or electrical engineering degree or just something requiring some real-world smarts that can’t be done from home. It will probably require an enormous time investment, but I don’t care. I’m willing to move anywhere in the world

>>715046176
Planescape Torment was the last good one

>>715047005
lmao. You're sing 40k+ people fired, and are saying, "it's just consolidation. The industry still has infinite money."

>>715041469
they also put in 9000 h1b visa requests

>>715047307
You know that wage difference is getting SOMEBODY a new boat.

>>715047159
This is what that looks like you retard. There were massive layoffs and closing of studios when media companies began consolidating too.

>>715047374
I resent that implication, saar.

>>715046938
It never really phased in because they weren't really trying after a while, most of the D&D video games are pre-2000s ancient home computer games which obviously was never going to be successful with anyone but the basement dwelling nerds who owned and played those kind of games in the 80s and early 90s. The only ones that really did successfully is Baldur's Gate (hence why they keep milking the everloving shit out of it now) and NWN
Basically old Bioware carried the everloving shit out of D&D video games

>>715047461
Elaborate, please. What are you envisioning is happening here on a large scale as a whole?

>>715044114
no, nepotism is often the foundation of everything what goes wrong in buisness. i´m not saying that every postion filled with nepo is bad but lets be real, a postion filled trough nepo rather than skills and abilities is bad.

>>715047091
Just embrace it
Start pretending you are a Kanyakubja Brahmin by the name of Vishwajeet
They will literally treat you like a god and you will pass if you look very white

>>715046701
>>715047058
>>715046938
You're both underage. D&D had had more games released than COD and it goes all the way back to the 80s up to now. Its amassive brand that has FOUR movie releases as well as animated series. You're dumb as bag of rocks.

>>715047585
>nepotism is often the foundation of everything what goes wrong in buisness
fair its one of the worst and most destructive side effects of Indian Hindu staff.

>>715047307
That’s the part I’m not understanding. Are the h1bs signing their contract before they travel to the US? Surely it’s highly illegal and easily provable otherwise, to prove they are offering extreme lowball salaries to these people

After Occupy Wall Street when the message became "Support the fags" instead of "Fuck this shit". Also because Millennials were getting older and realizing that they like everyone else aren't unique and needed to stand out in some bizarre fashion like when they were kids and be praised, so they hopped on trends to feel young and unique again, so now everyone who is a Millennial and Gen Z decided they're Panflute Transatlantic Bipartisan Wall Flowers with 69 genders.

>>715047754
Nigger. You're illiterate.
1. You don't know the difference between "it's" and "its".
2. The conversation is mostly about current vidya zeitgeist where DnD is barely present. You're not "owning" anyone by bringing up Icewind Dale and the likes.

>>715047579
Less than a handful of publishers making everything for the future audience they successfully groomed today.

>>715048035
Yes, that' does happen in the entertainment industry, but many of these companies are simply losing employees as a whole, or are just simply closing. The only company in particular buying things is Microsoft, but Microsoft's game division is floundering, an constantly making bad decisions. The only other notable example of consolidation I can think of would be Sony buying Bungie- another historic mistake, looking at the state of things with Marathon. The purchase itself being just a reactionary move from Microsoft making buyouts.

>>715041059 (OP)
The industry sees 'devs' as modular units you can just pick up and drop from projects while ignoring the quality of whatever output they had a hand in. If a game bombed, it's always because of extraneous market circumstances, not the actual creative talent of the team

>>715041059 (OP)
>chud journalist
Kinda cringe

>>715046882
i mean how can you avoid girlboss shit when the game's protagonist is a female mass murderer ronin, by default the gameplay will be about you girlbossing your way through the story, particularly if you play well
if she acts like a clumsy self-doubting dumb cunt in the cinematics then you have a disconnect between gameplay of you 1v8ing gangs of swordsmen and how she acts in other scenes

>>715048181
That's not how consolidation is done. Only useful brands are acquired, ones that are no longer useful or problematic are closed. The 'right' ones that were laid off get rehired, which was the agreement to begin with before the closing. The undesirables, the disagreeables are left out in the cold and get replaced with jeets. Its just as much an idealogical purge as it is a consolidation, thats why legacy media is deadlocked in a vice grip of some weird gay fascism.

>>715046836
And I never will despite playing BG and IWD etc on release.

>>715048748
Bro you think they're closing all the chud studios, or something? No. Massively, these fuckers are making woke games, those games are flopping, and people are losing their jobs over them. You can't fucking take a win, can you? You can't just see despicable people making bad choices, and suffering for it, and nod your head at that. It's gotta be something bigger.

Sign tapper mentality.

>>715041172
They infiltrated most companies around in the early 2010s, in the late 2010s they started with injecting their beliefs

>>715041059 (OP)
considering the current state of DND she fits perfectly

>>715048884
You have this extremely infantile notion that the codemonkeys get to decide what they make. They're no different than forklift drivers working at a dildo warehouse, they're all probably still very problematic.

>>715041059 (OP)
>work at accounting firm
>do good job
>get poached by different accounting firm for better pay
>switch employment
Monkeybranching has been a normal part of every single industry since the 18th century. Just because you and your fellow gamergaters have only ever worked at McDonald's doesn't mean other people should be forced to only ever stay employed in one place.

>>715041059 (OP)
>When did the industry turn into just one giant incestous, nepotistic woketard circlejerk?
2014

>>715041059 (OP)
hollywood jews took over vidya
its how it always worked over there

>>715049186
You ever been to GDC? I have. Four times. No. Literally every stereotype is real. Everything you think /v/ creates a strawman over exists. I've seen Chris Chan looking motherfuckers in skirts, talking about how they make "vignette" games about whatever cultural problem of the day they're bitching about. I've been in a room with a Dustborn dev complaining about getting compared to Concord.

No. The gaming industry is full of progressives, and many of them are actively losing their jobs right now.

>>715048512
that's because devs have no sayso on the design of a game, they're code monkeys and decisions come from middle management after their monthly review of their market analysts. you're not choosing between michelangelo or giotto, you're just hiring the cheapest pair of hands capable of writing code.

>>715041059 (OP)
I think that's a cute tranny and I'd let him suck my dick.

>>715041059 (OP)
If you can't quit gaming, in spite of games becoming some sort of cultural threat to you, you're just a fucking addict.

>>715041059 (OP)
That's just how shitholes work.

>>715049871
i'm addicted to games released decades ago, i'm impervious to your threats so fuck off

>>715044473
>funded by GMOs
By genetically modified organisms?
Did you mean NGOs?

>>715041059 (OP)
around 2014

>>715041284
wotc already hired him

>>715049142
that's a man anon. stop being a fucking retard

>>715041059 (OP)
when the CEOs decided they would rather virtue signal than make money

>>715041469
how many of these 9000 do you think are nepobabies of the same tier/rank as him?

>>715041059 (OP)
>dnd

That thing is just a (very gay)corpse now.
RIP Gygax

>>715041059 (OP)
Imagine if WOTC were smart enough to not burn every bridge at Larian

>>715049286
>do good job
lol

>>715042098
It's like being thankful WW1 is over just to slam head first into WW2.

>>715041469
>Will they?
Obviously, retard.

>>715046176
>when was the last time we had a good D&D game?
i'm crying right now because it's true...

>>715046262
>Watashi wa, no-binary desu.
I kneel

>>715041059 (OP)
This happens constantly, the only reason people know about this is angry terfs mad a man in a dress took their job.

>>715041469
>after a certain point, they either die, or take corrective measures.
they get bailed out with gov bux retard. they will continue to burn other peoples money until the heat death of the universe

>>715041059 (OP)
>woman

yeah, instantly know it's going to be bad without even knowing anything about it

>>715055879
It's a man though

2012

>>715041059 (OP)
>>715041172
>>715044178
2013-14 is when it really started appearing, moreso with the gaming media but then by about 2016-17 it started popping up in games.

Anita blowing up is what emboldened it, though I think one of the big things that really made people notice something was up was in late 2013 when Nathan Grayson, who was writing for Rock Paper Shotgun at the time, confronted the director of Heroes of the Storm and tried to start an argument with him.

>RPS: You have some interesting alternate outfits for heroes. Roller Derby Nova, especially, caught my eye. On its own, that's totally fine - just a silly, goofy thing. A one-off. But it got me thinking about how often MOBAs tend to hyper-sexualize female characters to a generally preposterous degree - that is to say, make it the norm, not a one-off at all - and StarCraft's own, um, interesting focus choices as of late. How are you planning to approach all of that in Heroes?
>Browder: Well, I mean, some of these characters, I would argue, are already hyper-sexualized in a sense. I mean, Kerrigan is wearing heels, right? We're not sending a message to anybody. We're just making characters who look cool. Our sensibilities are more comic book than anything else. That's sort of where we're at. But I'll take the feedback. I think it's very fair feedback.
>RPS: I have to add, though, that comics might not be the best point of reference for this sort of thing. I mean, it's a medium that's notorious - often in a not-good way - for sexing up female characters and putting them in some fairly gross situations.
>Browder: We're not running for President. We're not sending a message. No one should look to our game for that.

>>715056082
>RPS: But it's not even about a message. The goal is to let people have fun in an environment where they can feel awesome without being weirded out or even objectified. This is a genre about empowerment. Why shouldn't everyone feel empowered? That's what it's about at the end of the day: letting everyone have a fair chance to feel awesome.
>Browder: Uh-huh. Cool. Totally.
>[PR says we've run over, tells me I have to leave]
>RPS: Thank you for your time.

>>715041059 (OP)
Nepotism will always exist in this world
Tell me you won't hire your relatives and friends if you got the chance

>>715041059 (OP)
I blame GDC, but that's just me.
>Turns being a game developer into a social gathering event
>You feel like you missed a party everyone else went to by skipping it
>All game design is shared here, including Nintendo's own findings
>All devs start using each other's ideas
>People network and land jobs by drinking beers with each other
>It becomes about who likes each other in groups, rather than practical hiring efforts.
>The complacent gets ahead of the competents
>The LGBT environment infested GDC over time
>Publishers have to remain diplomatic to their own talent-source
>The whole industry becomes an LGBT circlejerk run by social retards writing opinions on Twitter
>All knowledge came from opinions shared at conferences made by other devs, rather than real theory or learned knowledge.
And voila, the industry is now completely globalized and incestuous across Japan and the west. Even Yoko Taro goes here.

>Hold L2 to AIM DOWN SIGHTS
>R2 to FIRE
>STRAFE with L-Stick
>TURN with R-Stick
>Over the shoulder
>Story must have "THE FEELS!"
>Add MCU "jokes" in the dialogue
>Add Internet-humor because lmaoooo
>Be """""""inspired"""""" by classic 2D 90s and early 2000s vidyas
>Make PIXEL ART
>Rogue Like/Lite
>It's like Dark Souls!
I barf.

>>715056227
Kek. My sister suggested we should make a company where she makes ideas and I develop the apps, and I told her no, because I will never set up a family business because business is the best way to permanently damage relationships with those that are close to you.

>>715044996
>death of local servers have destoyed the whole sector.

Can you elaborate on the overdependence of AWS and the like?

>>715056227
My sister has bpd wouldn't hire her for anything

Woke saves lives. Anti-woke kills.

>>715041059 (OP)
i want to say it was coming to fruition right around the time the liberals were trying to become vocal about hollywood and starring white actors for nonwhite parts like avatar the last airbender
and the term social justice worrier i mean warrior was a thing
forget what year that was but surely it was earlier than 2016, it's just that 2016 is where it was in full bloom

>>715041059 (OP)
Since basically forever, for modern entertainment anyway. Early in the lifecycle of the modern entertainment industry (film and onwards) a few people already expressed concern about how circlejerky, incestuous and nepotistic (and pozzed) it is. John Wayne is known for expressing his opinions about how anti-American many things were in his time in the industry and watching it develop, this was decades ago.
Of course it would extend from film into video games when they started getting more popular. Most of the big wig shit for vidya still goes down in hollywood or other woke infested shithole cities like NY.
>>715041469
I don't care about video game studios closing down. I want them groveling, begging for forgiveness, and then still completely outcasted from the medium forevermore.
These faggot subhumans will just keep getting hired by their fellow woketroon buddies over and over and over until they are made an example of. They need to be made into a warning for all future generations of developers and corpos in general. Complete and utter public humiliation and financial ruin, nothing less.

>>715047939
It's wage slavery, the Chinese do it all the time. 15 American Dollars/hr sounds like a dream to someone, until they get here and realize how expensive it is to live. Then they're trapped in the rat race in a country where they don't speak the language, are disliked in general, and don't understand the culture or realities of society. Bonus points if MS is building them a "campus" and housing/food is "included" (i.e. payed for out of your paycheck before (you) ever see it)
It's over 14k visa applications in total btw

>>715041059 (OP)
this happens because the successful directors usually don't get fired and they stay where they're at. at that point, studios who want a director have to choose between
>literally who who never directed a game before
or
>someone who tried and failed, but has experience in the role
and unless you're completely retarded you know that some experience beats no experience

>>715058223
Or maybe I don't know promote a person who was groomed for the job internally? Like you're supposed to?

>>715058223
This anon is a shareholder for WotC, no other reason for this amount of cope

>devs think it'll play out the same was as Hollywood
LMAO Unlike movies, games are international. When westerners fuck up, people don't keep eating their slop, they play games made elsewhere

>>715041059 (OP)
it was always like this
hollywood is exactly the same
blame the americans wanting to control everything

>>715041059 (OP)
>five fucking commas in one sentence

>>715056152
>cool, totally

I remember reading this interview at the time and laughing how much of a faggot Nathan was being and how little the dev cared.

>>715041059 (OP)
>WHY IS GACHA bullshit SO PREVALENT ON HERE!? WE SHOULD FOCUS ON REAL GAMES!
>meanwhile this is ''real games''

>>715056152
Clear apathy and disinterest absolutely would've killed this entire fucking movement, instead of the fake-ass "j-just ignore it and don't ever engage...!" we got.

>>715058862
are you brown, or just retarded?

>>715041059 (OP)
When we lost gamergate

>>715056082
>>715056152
Nathan Grayson was one of Zoe Quinn's famous five, no?

>>715058727
There's also (weirdly) more individuals or small groups of people willing to make games than there are willing to make movies.

>>715041059 (OP)
Cool still won't buy it.

>>715059782
I believe so

>>715041469
>or take corrective measures.
Yes, like making AI and pajeets do the work

>>715041059 (OP)
because California is hopelessly entrenched in the DNC

>>715059547
>only white people can do run on sentences

>>715060164
both, got it.

I'm glad stuff like this is failing now. There's tons of good games out there so bad games don't make me angry. They just make me laugh.

>>715041059 (OP)
another flop in the making
they will only learn once they run out of funds

>>715059426
Lol, everytime some clown says that on here,just assume its one of these troon devs

>>715041059 (OP)
They make more money from Blackrock by doing this.
I guess CEOs just expected leftards would, at some point, slightly care about games, but they can't even pretend to. The sheer amount of games being cancelled after nothing has been done for like half a decade is insane. And the ones that release are always some lazy forgettable shit, besides that one retarded scene they always have that makes it look like a /pol/ parody.

>>715041469
Microdick jeet ceo fired 9000 americans and files for 14,000 H1Jeets

>>715060840
Not leftards, but women. Arguably same thing. Women spend all their money on absolute shit without thinking. vidya was the last market that only had men as the audience, so getting burger women addicted to it as well was seen as an easy growth tactic.

>>715056341
this in so many words

>>715041059 (OP)
>>715041172
>thread

>>715041469
>corrective measures
Which includes vidya with sexy femfurs ladies like Rouge, Krystal, Renamon, etc

>>715048728
there's a difference between girl-boss shit and a strong woman character. This is what leftists don't understand. They think bitchy girl boss women = strong woman.

They are 2 completely separate things. Leftists do not understand this, which is why a leftist in real life has zero leadership skill or creative ability

>>715041059 (OP)
When I stop working at one architecture firm I go get a job at another architecture firm doing similar work. Now, if I had some stranger I'd never be aware of obsessively following my career cuz I make them mad, this would appear to be a frustrating conspiracy rather than me having a normal career to avoid artificially enforced homelessness and starvation.

>>715046424
>Cloud is a failure

>>715062526
If you're an architect whose buildings keep collapsing getting hired over and over again it'd be quite suspicious.

>>715062691
It's hard to make any blame stick on the architect when there's a failure in a project that has had a hundred other hands on it, much as people go after us first cuz we're easy targets.

>>715044495
Normaliy always wins in the end, because normality is inevitably normal.
The problem is that there is no rule about how much it will take. Few years? a decade? two? a generation?
That's the only sad pard

>>715056341
Yeah. People who blame suits and corporations underestimate how much of a highschool-tier circlejerk it really is.

>>715045163
>Google, whose AI summaries are accelerating the demise of search traffic, has offered early retirement to its Search, Ads and Commerce teams.
lol

>>715062947
That's good and all, but if you're the director of a project the responsibility falls squarely on you when it fails, even if it's not your fault.

>>715047091
lol retard

>>715046701
>>715046836
BG3 is gay porn dating sim, not D&D

>>715041196
These corrections you dream of will never be made because these games are made with your taxpayer money.

>>715063389
It's a fair assumption to make, but not one that holds up in court so far as my industry goes. Architects are effectively directors of their projects as they coordinate the work of most other people involved and have the most complete idea of the owner's vision, but that doesn't make them liable for mistakes made in execution by the contractors, for example. I know about as little about the inside of the games industry as most people here who complain about it, so I don't know how well this translates, but that's what I do know.

>>715041059 (OP)
2013 was when the wokery went into overdrive
but it was simmering for years before that
https://theralphretort.com/article-eerily-predicted-the-current-sjw-attack-on-gaming-0309015/

neogaf should have been destroyed in 2005 and then it would never have happened

>>715064053
Again, that's cool and all, but when you're not beholden to the law and just the good will of your customers (or hell, your shareholders) this completely falls apart and people get suspicious when you just keep failing upwards.

>>715064225
There's a lot of unfounded suspicion in the world, so that doesn't convince me of much. Is the outcome people are expecting that this person will never work a job that her previous experience applies to ever again? Going from directing a Bioware mainline game to working on a DnD game just seems a lot more like getting another job in her wheelhouse than falling upwards, honestly.

>>715045163
>Google, whose AI summaries are accelerating the demise of search traffic, has offered early retirement to its Search, Ads and Commerce teams.
This is such an interesting one to look at. Obviously the people who want more info will always dig around for it, but the majority of people will look at that AI summary for their question and call it a day. It's going to be fascinating to see what companies start leaning heavily or going all in on AI and downsizing the human aspect of their companies.

>>715063163
Several ex-Bungie devs also talked about this. Marcus Letho said when Bungie grew and started Project Tiger (Destiny) one of the reasons he quit is that as you recruit new, and especially many younger people, it creates "social fiefdoms" and he increaseingly felt like cliques formed inside the company. And you can tell. Just see any interview with Luke Smith where he can't stop talking about how Destiny's Producer, Mark Noseworthy, is "his best friend" and the two always visited each other's families and dadded out together.
Obviously such things should happen, but given that both kind of became complacent "top dogs" at Bungie in the Destiny era, and basically made themselves untouchable until they quit recently, it shows kind of what happens to a lot of companies. People who really shouldn't be there, end up at the top.

And Luke Smith had no pedigree in game dev. He wrote rage-blogging about Halo 2 having shitty balancing and got a gig at 1up and Kotaku, after which he rubbed some elbows and ended up making Investment math for Halo Reach (which he by his own admission screwed up) and then he became Design Director of Destiny after making the rest of Bungie turn against Joseph Staten, who was the Story Guy for Halo and early Destiny development, simply because Luke was "cooler to be around".

>>715067779
>it creates "social fiefdoms" and he increaseingly felt like cliques formed inside the company.
Bowling For Soup said it best, high school never ends.