Thread 715050583

In hindsight I think we should forgive BioWare. They actually listened when they got criticized, and patched it, and they actually fixed everything we said was wrong with the endings. What other vidya dev does that?

>>715050583 (OP)
>forgive BioWare
the BioWare you'd be forgiving doesn't exist anymore, and the current team deserve anything but

>>715050583 (OP)
but they didn't make a director's cut where they cut all the stupid out of character deconstruction bullshit about shepard suddenly having ptsd and the retarded starchild shit and all the sidequests being dogshit fetch quests and kai leng making shepard turn into a retard for plot reasons

>>715050583 (OP)
The patch may have been cathartic but made the logic of events even worse. Case in point: the Normandy shows up to pick up your squadmates despite them being in the middle of a charge and it being totally out of character for any of them to give up, and Harbinger just sits there doing nothing because they refused to piss off anyone by letting any characters die.

>>715051201
I find it hilarious that Casey Hudson returned to BioWare in 2017 as their general manager only to oversee Anthem's launch and leave again three years later.
He wanted a renaissance and all he got was the dark ages kek.

>In hindsight I think we should forgive BioWare
No
>They actually listened when they got criticized, and patched it
Never should have done it to begin with
>and they actually fixed everything we said was wrong with the endings
No? They put a shitty band aid on it

>>715050583 (OP)
>I think we should forgive BioWare.
No :)

>>715051354
The original cut content did it better, and exactly the same as seen previously on Tuchanka.
At the end of Tuchanka when Shepard has to activate the last Hammer and go to the Shroud facility, there's a brief moment where he just yells "Run back to the ship, GO!" and they're not seen again before the mission ends.
The cut content in ME3 as it released (as in, found in the game files) is just
>A: Bad war score, the crew gets lasered
>B: Good war score, Laser breaks up the crew from Shepard, and he yells "GO!" and keeps running but gets blasted himself.
It's pretty obvious the writers already had all the same continuity issues as players pointed out, but they just decided to cut and remove things to avoid drawing negative attention to them. Then for Extended Cut they wilfully broke continuity at the request of fans again.

>>715051354
I recommend the mod if you're on PC and play the remaster, called "Unextended Cut". In the installer it lets you hand-pick the parts of the ending that you want to be non-extended-cut, so you can have the expanded Catalyst dialogue but keep everything else tastefully brief and less sugarcoated.

>>715050583 (OP)
We should forgive BioWare, but only because you retards actually thought they were once good and could potentially deliver a good ending. They've always sucked. They wrote themselves into a corner immediately with ME1 and had to make "Mass Effect Gaiden" to scramble for time and come up with plausible explanations for the feeble minds super conspiracy you retards were expecting them to deliver.

>>715052062
That's the truth, I'm playing ME1 for the first time now and there's only two good thing about it- the world building (though it's done very artificially) and music. Two things that are as far removed from the game as possible.
Everything else, characters, dialogue, writing, quests, "planet exploration", combat, everything sucks.
And mako, the fucking mako- I'm a certified Battletech grognard, it's my job to pilot mechs, tanks (light, heavy and everything in between) and hovers. Mako controls like absolute shit.

Starting the game as the big bad Commander Sheppert, already a hero, sucks too.

>>715050583 (OP)
>forgive BioWare