>1.3 million signatures reached
Pirate Software lost.
Video Games Europe lost.
Private servers won.
Dedicated server hosting won.

>>715051950 (OP)
I am not surprised considering what videogame publishers have been doing.

>>715051950 (OP)
>The anti SKG crowd literally can't argue with this

>>715051950 (OP)
It's not victory yet. It's stage 1 cleared.

>>715052097
This is pretty much what happened with The Crew.
>The Crew got nuked
>The Crew 2 got released
It was so incredibly vile and obvious that i can't believe Ubisoft did it but they did.

You are literally at the starting line. You're not even pass the verification process yet.

>>715052132
This. We did our part.
The rest is European politicians

>>715052097
show me footage of EA coming to your home and destroyed your physical disc.
>but they turned off the multiplayer servers
so something you didn't purchase, got it.

>>715052232
>no one played the Crew
>multiplayer gets taken off
>NOOOOOOO

>>715052465
>multiplayer gets taken off
Hey niggerfaggot, the pulled the game out of people's online libraries and made the singleplayed unplayable too.

>>715052528
>no one plays generic car slop
>game servers stopped
>noooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>715052404
>Yeah, you bought The Bike, but not the welds that hold it together, we don't know how long they hold together, no guarantees, no refunds. Here it's in the agreement you signed
>And no, you can't fix it yourself, it's a particular and patented alloy specifically designed only we can do it unless you reverse-engineer it on molecular and bond level. Whoops, almost forgot, that's also illegal, too bad

>>715052132
This. It's up to EUbros to persuade SKG's cause to their top honchos.

>>715052727
>destruction of property is not a crime, bro

>>715052772
>the ultra cheap bike I bought won't last 100 years
>MONEY STOLT
>FASCISM!!!
>EU FORCE THEM THAT IT LASTS 1000 YEARS

>>715052772
That’s basically the car manufacturing industry right now.

>>715052097
>buy lightbulb
>lightbulb burns out
>have to buy new lightbulb
Planned obsolescence has been a thing for long time. Entertainment execs are salivating at video games getting planned obsolescence too because they never could quite figure out how to do that with other stuff they do like movies and music.
Funnily enough bikes might be the one place where it doesn't happen as much, even though mechanical components wear and have to be replaced it's not really something that can be stopped from happening. I assume it's because bikes are piss easy to repair yourself, bike manufacturers are very decentralized and components-wise Shimano has been carrying the whole industry on their backs for a century now.

>>715052912
You might wanna look up what planned obsolescence is.

>>715052912
>it's cheap, so that makes it allright
you are brown
post hands

>>715052995
There’s a difference between a product breaking and needing a replacement and the product’s manufacturer manually breaking all your lightbulbs so you have to buy new and improved lightbulb (but with less features, we will totally patch those in).

>>715052912
According to the European law, services can’t be bought, they are rented. And they also must specify when the service will stop.
And the Crew was sold as a good, not as a service, and didn’t say anything about when the support will end. So nah, if the Crew was a service, Ubisoft comited fraud.

>>715053009
>YOU PLANNED THAT MY ULTRA CHEAP BIKE KICKS THE BUCKET AFTER 5 YEARS
>I WILL SUE YOU
meds

>>715053169
...You thought you had something there, didnt you?

>>715052995
>I assume it's because bikes are piss easy to repair yourself,
pretty much, i repaired a folding bike from the 70s and it drives pretty well, even with my shoddy repairs. next is acompletely rusted all-steel bike from the 40s

>>715053169
based retard

>>715053160
At some point there isn't. Lightbulbs became memetic to planned obsolecence mainly because Phoebus cartel was, I think, the first time people took action against it (and they never succeeded - Phoebus cartel was dissolved because of WW2, not any legal action, and it's pretty much certain that something similar resumed operation post-war). It's not like people put timed explosives in that shit but it can be engineered precisely enough that Phoebus cartel required it's members to pay fines if lightbulbs picked out in random tests exceeded 1,000 hour mark.
After thinking about it I can point out at least one example where you have manufacturers manually "breaking your lightbulbs" - printers. Modern printers are overloaded with chips that are not only designed to make the whole thing stop working if you even look in the direction of off-brand ink, but literally make them hard lock after a certain number of pages being printed. When people started taking out those chips they started putting in layered defenses against tampering, so now it might be easier to make your own printer from off-shelf components than defuse one made by the major manufacturers. This isn't even schizophrenia talking, a lot of this stuff has been well documented to be the case.
I feel you're thinking I'm defending planned obsolescence because it essentially became the standard in how businesses are ran these days, but I'm very clearly not - it always has been scummy as fuck, but video games getting killed are just another chapter in what's standard business practice for most.

>>715053161
good
"The Crew will stop working (according to EU commie law) in 3 years"
done

>>715054328
I will now not buy your service.

>>715053169
That’s literally a thing that happens though.

>>715054068
>you have to make your cars out of EU compliant commie lego parts
>if you use anything else, that's illegal, comrade

>>715054328
This is what I want, yes.

>>715054328
I wonder why none of these stores tell you that you are only renting the game for a year. Almost as if they know it will cost them sales or something.

>>715052021
consumer rights are bad for you. don't you want to enjoy life

>>715054368
>everyone expects multiplayer to exist forever
anyone with a brian knows that multiplayers are dead within month at best a year
>but i want to boost trophies

>>715052727
Actually, I was going to use my property maybe 10 years from now.
Ubisoft should be punished for destroying my property.

>>715054586
does Steam tell you how long they will allow your current device to access teir slop service?

>>715054712
>i want fresh content even 50 years from now

>enemy is absolutely incompetent and retarded

>>715054658
>within month at best a year
Really? Weird. I can still play Unreal Tournament.

>>715054635
>i will ask WEF EU to go against WEF
>WEF will arrest itself any second now

>>715054792
Nobody said that.
I want the current content that is in the game I paid for.

>>715054792
Who is she quoting?

>>715054834
server says no one is playing that outdated garbage

>if we let gamers play our live service game that we shut down, they wouldn't buy the sequels
what's your response

>>715054541
You don't have to sell your car in EU though.

>>715054897
>I want
shouldn't have boughted a service then.

>>715054979
Make sequels worth buying

>>715052404
>so something you didn't purchase
I purchased the game.
If the servers are necessary for the game to run companies should be forced by law to provide the code to run it ourselves.

>>715054068
I can buy equivalent lightbulbs that dont break though?. Ive had the one LED color changing smart bulb for like 8 years now and it still works fine. I cant buy a version of the crew that works offline, and nobody else is able to legally make one.

>>715054986
right.
>indies geo-lock multiplayer

>>715055041
no, you gave Valve money for a license with unlimited caveats and unlimited Valve-demands.

>>715052772
I wish I was this retarded, it sounds gleeful

>>715055017
at one point in the future there would be so many games perserved that devs don't find it profitable to make live service games anymore

>>715055076
>LED
>lasts forever

>Percentage to Goal: 130.01%
>game has new game+++ mode

>>715055014
I didn't. I purchased a product.
If it's a service then before the purchase they are legally required to disclose when they can stop providing it.
They didn't do that, they sold it as a product.

>>715054885
nope. democracy cannot be allowed to remain in the hands of the smoothbrains to drag us to own nothing hell along them because they are npc. that's exactly why we need skg because the free unregulated market will always turn into a scamfest since most people are retards. it's why democracy is such a huge failure that doesen't advance human civilization

>>715055146
>it's profitable to make live service games right now

>>715055110
>for a license
A lifetime license, with no set end date.
>with unlimited caveats and unlimited Valve-demands
Completely illegal therefore not binding.

>>715055214
no, you gave money to Valve for a restricted rental.

>>715054979
If your product cant be sold by its own merit and customers need to be cooerced into getting it, its basically a scam.
>Insurance
>High interest Loans
>Subscriptions

>>715055332
Nope. I purchased a physical game at a shop, it was sold to me as a product.
Any agreement signed under duress (presented only after buying the product) is null and void.

>>715055076
>I cant buy a version of the crew that works offline, and nobody else is able to legally make one.
Burnout Paradise singleplayer still works even after the servers shut down.
>not the same
Non-planned obsolescence lightbulbs also aren't the same as normal lightbulbs.

>>715055146
>devs don't find it profitable to make live service games anymore
Drat, what a loss.

>>715055469
no, it's a rental.

>>715055127
Yeah, they also occasionally come to reweld that shit, which is also mandatory. Sometimes that bike works as intended and is enjoyable to ride, or it bends and has fucked suspension or you get shitty (trademarked) decals
But man, I don't care about that. I just want a fucking bike that I can ride even without this additonal support shit

>>715055167
Not literally sure but im hitting 10 years at least
>>715055527
Theyre the same in every way that matters. also
>Burnout Paradise singleplayer still works
good thats exactly what SKG is advocating for

>>715055336
>oh noes, I want to watch latest TV slop
>I was COERCED into paying for this subscription!!!
>basically tortured
>EU!!!

>>715055680
Where did it say that it was a rental? Isn't false advertising a crime?

>>715055761
on the box

>>715055753
>Want to watch show
>try to buy it
>Fuck you pay an ongoing fee to buy 200 other shows you dont watch.

>>715055710
>Theyre the same in every way that matters.
What's the problem then? Just play Burnout Paradise and stop crying about The Crew. Vote with your wallet.

>>715055680
They didn't sell it as such, so they either need to treat it like a product or give me (and every other willing European) their money back.

>>715055831
Where is the shutdown date then?

>>715055863
The crew and burnout are not the same in many ways that matter

>>715055857
>wow, I have to wait for it to get released on DVD?
>and then pay $50 for 7 seasons!!!
>that's coercion

>>715055863
>Vote with your wallet.
Ok, but why wouldn't I also vote with... my vote and force the companies to do what's right?

>>715055907
where is the shutdown date on the Half-Life 2 box?

We need 2M signatures.

>>715052097
>anti SKG crowd

Can't we just call them "pro killing games"?

>>715055937
>Everyshow gets released on DVD
>Forcing you to pay for a subscription or wait a year isnt coercion

>>715055753
see
>>715054935

>>715055953
because we don't want to give commies power.

>>715055857
shows used to cost way more than a single subscription fee. It's already accounted for in the business model that most people subscribe just to watch one show

>>715055985
You can still play Half-Life 2 and it's not a rental. Try again

>>715056018
this is an extremely antisemitic post

>>715055863
>Vote with your wallet.
I'm voting with my vote :)

>>715056058
They already have it.
At least we can force them to use it for good once.

>>715056064
its accounted in the business model in the same way gyms account for people never showing up.

>>715052232
Not really. There were 4 years between the release of The Crew and The Crew 2. There is also The Crew Motorfest which released several months before The Crew was shut down after 10 years of operation when it likely became financially unviable to continue supporting. Ubisoft probably could've not made it always-online but they did for whatever reason.
>>715052528
They did that because the game was unplayable if the servers were down. A physical disc wouldn't let you play the game in that scenario.

>>715055863
>Vote with your wallet.
I am voting with my EU id. I also purchase all my videogames exclusively from GOG.

>>715055985
Stop moving goalposts you nigger and answer. Valve is guilty of this as well, but at least they provided private servers on majority of their games

>>715055146
Oh no!

>>715056247
it's a good question.
On the Crew box it says "internet required" bla bla
on the Half-Slop 2 box it doesn't say anything like that at all, it pretends to be a regular physical release.

>>715055831
Where on the box? Got a pic?

>>715056541
you claimed to have boughted it.

>>715056613
Ok so what game am I talking about?

>>715055831
I looked at the box. It says not such thing. It just says that you will need internet connection for full functionality. I have an internet connection. The game is not working. What now? Are you saying that Ubisoft are advertising their products with a scam? False advertising?

>>715055953
>>715056134
>>715056239
>First they came for the publishers, and I did not speak out - because I was not a publisher.
>Then they came for the developers, and I did not speak out - because I was not a developer.
>Then they came for the gamers, and I did not speak out - because I was not a gamer.
>Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me.
I can't wait for all the sweet howling EUcucks will make when you won't be able to play any new games aside from indie crap.

>>715056797
I prefer my version

>>715056247
I'm not that anon and the one moving the goalpost is (You). And I don't care if others did it too
You stated that the Crew was sold as a rental, and if so, where is the shutdown date? Because without it, according to the European law, it's false advertising.

Answer my question without insults or goalpost moving, but you won't, because you can't

>>715056782
actually read the box, asswipe.

>>715056169
The was never advertised as a GaaS. The game was never advertised as haing always online DRM and an expiration date. The game was sold as a single purchase. It never said ''subscribtion'' it never said ''this is a rental''.

Maldavius Figtree lost and got raped

>>715056797
>you won't be able to play any new games aside from indie crap
The industry is dying, they can't afford to lose the EU market.
They will bend, just like all the others.

>>715056914
It was implied.

>>715053169
planned obsolescence is literally illegal under EU law
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ:L_202400825
>Recital16
>“In order to improve the welfare of consumers, the amendments to Directive 2005/29/EC should also address several practices associated with early obsolescence, including planned early obsolescence practices, understood as a commercial policy involving deliberately planning or designing a product with a limited lifespan so that it prematurely becomes obsolete or non-functional after a certain period or after a predetermined intensity of use. Purchasing products that are expected to last longer than they actually do causes consumer detriment. Furthermore, early obsolescence practices have an overall negative impact on the environment in the form of increased waste and increased use of energy and materials. Therefore, addressing information related to early obsolescence practices is also likely to reduce the amount of waste, contributing to a more sustainable consumption.”

>>715056897
I read it. Not only that but the EULA is not present on the box. Ubisoft is scamming pople/schildren. They advertise their games falsely. So do a lot of videogame publishers b t w.

>>715057032
no, you didn't.
post the whole box in here with timestamp.

>>715056997
>It was implied.
Was it tho? Also ''implied'' is literally false advertising and is illegal. The EU should rape Ubisofts ass for this.

>>715057013
i don't see all sorts of industries getting arrested.
weird.
must be the corruption.

>>715056380
Half Life isn't dead, nor is Steam, and neither requires constant internet connection and doesn't rely on distant server to play it
For what is worth, Half Life has also been cracked and is there to stay even if Valve pulled the plug completely and they don't obstruct the efforts considering the design and architecture of the game
Ubisoft is still here and alive, they killed The Crew and don't give a shit about the consumer

>>715056797
they're not coming for anybody, they're regulating videogames
the government doing things isn't nazism/communism

>>715057103
Ubisoft is French and French will cockblock any attempts by Germans to punish Ubisoft because EU is a joke.

>>715056851
Wrong reply anon, I'm agreeing with you

>>715057140
>the government doing things isn't nazism/communism
Literally is. Free market - it's in the name.

>>715057013
This is one of the reasons why this initiative is gaining support.

>>715057131
where are the dedicated server exes of Steam then?

>>715051950 (OP)
Even back then in the earlier SKG threads, it was the first time where I saw actual large scale cheese pizza spamming on 4chan. "They" really are that desperate to discredit it and anyone who supports it.

>>715057060
>with timestamp
Why does he need a timestamp?
The box is still going to say the same thing.

>>715057013
this is a blank law, the words are too vague and void of meaning in court

>>715057116
this was just put into place last year and all EU member states have until 2026 to implement it into their respective legal codes
the EU is not a central governing body, individual countries still have to do the legwork of implementation and enforcement

>>715057256
>where are the dedicated server exes of Steam then?
Did Steam shutdown and I didn't notice?

>>715057163
This is where you're wrong. You forget that the French are the ones with the guilotines. Ubisoft having French origins is not going to save them. Loot at how many signatures from France the initiative has gotten. French gamers don't tolerate this bullshit. They are not going to defend Ubisoft's scummy predatory business practices.

>>715057259
so that I can see that he isn't a commie liar, making shit up.

>>715057257
How new

>>715057350
This will also go beyond just Ubisoft. It will affect other scummy videogame publishers like EA, SONY, MICSROSOFT, Acti/Blizz etc.

>>715057368
Bro, just google the box and read what it says.
Nothing about it being a service/rental/having a shutdo date. It only says that internet is required.

>>715057324
for the devices Half-Slop 2 was purchased for, yes.

>>715052132
I declare the preservation of video games that are superior to online-only games to be the real victory. All hail every single-player game ever made, especially the ones made before 2012.

>>715057295
yeah, i'm sure a judge will side with the garbage manufacturer against existing law because it's "too vague" about their obviously malicious business practices
do you have any concept whatsoever about how a lawsuit works

>>715057227
the free market is unable to account for externalities,
for example poisoning the rivers or exhausting groundwater
there is no incentive against those things in the absence of regulations
the same way there is no incentive to not-kill games when they no longer bring income
the role of the government is to creates the incentives to guide behavior, in this case the threats of punishment

>>715057256
There isn't. Even Valve stipulates no guarantees.
>9. TERM AND TERMINATION
>A. Term
>The term of this Agreement (the "Term") commences on the date you first indicate your acceptance of these terms, and will continue in effect until otherwise terminated in accordance with this Agreement.
>C. Termination by Valve
>Valve may restrict or cancel your Account or any particular Subscription(s) at any time in the event that (a) Valve ceases providing such Subscriptions to similarly situated Subscribers generally, or (b) you breach any terms of this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use). In the event that your Account or a particular Subscription is restricted or terminated or cancelled by Valve for a violation of this Agreement or improper or illegal activity, no refund, including of any Subscription fees or of any unused funds in your Steam Wallet, will be granted.
OK so Valve can pull the plug on steam any time but most Steam games are DRM free so I get to keep them as long as I have the files on my computer.

>>715057013
>>715057316
Looks like apple is getting raped again next year.

>>715057509
Pretty much all videogames that are being sold on GOG also will work for as long as you can copy the offline installer to a new storage device you have. I have some of my offline installers from 10 years ago still stored on DVDs.

>>715057227
Free market must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of publishers.

>>715057504
Actually, I agree. Steam should be forced to still support old Windows. Those systems aren't updated anymore so creating and maintaining a launcher shouldn't be too hard. Fuck Microsoft, fuck updating (downgrading), let's add it to SKG.

>>715057645
This is why i like GOG. You can have your older offline installers stored forever. No need to change operating system.

>>715057435
I've stumbled on a couple here and there before. What I meant is threads flooded by the dumptruck all at once, it was either one autist with way too many vpns, or a coordinated spam by multiple people.

>>715056914
>was never advertised as having always online DRM
There were articles all over the internet at the time and people were complaining in the usual places. Guess you didn't have internet at the time.

>>715056239
BASED

>>715057116
Because it can be difficult to differentiate between a naturally expiring product, and planned obsolescence.
Games don't naturally expire in any way, shape or forms. They're intangible and perpetual goods. The only way a game completely disappears is by intentionally deleting the original software and all its copies.
If an EULA at the time of purchase doesn't specifically states when the licensed access to the game expires, then it's indefinite and your EULA is not legally-binding because it's a legally grey-are that borders on swindling your customer. IE an anti-customer practice.
And no, shutting down a game so it doesn't compete with its sequel is not a valid reason, particularly when game series such as Mario, Zelda, Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, Tekken, Resident Evil and so on, have ALL past games still perfectly playable in one way or another and still break record sales.

>>715052404

>>715057898
DESTROY YOUR GAME
NOW!!!

>>715057898
this is what lolbertarians are defending

>>715052465
12million people bought The Crew 1.

>>715057227
the only places where truly free markets exist is in total shitholes where you can buy delicious fish picked up off the beach this morning (comes free with parasites!)

>>715057898
videogame publishers are EVIL

>>715054635
Those are some crazy fucking eyes.

>>715054635
Built for anal

>>715057898
>You must destroy the copy of the game we sold you because we said so
These fags are just asking for regulation.

>>715051950 (OP)
you guys put too much hope in a video game movement.

>>715058092
You can save her

>>715058208
She's got a wedding ring on, some poor fucker already bagged the witch.

>>715051950 (OP)
And 800k of those signatures are from kids and their votes aren't counted. Thor won. He's still making over a million dollars a year streaming btw.

>1.3m signatures
>when at least 800k are confirmed to be bots

>>715058391
I think only ~270k are legit.

>>715058191
It's not a movement or a petition, it's a legal tool.
The EU commission is bound by law to take this in their own hand and legislate, if they deem necessary, once the legally required amount of valid signatures has been confirmed.
Knowing they've been pushing out pro-consumer protection laws for the past decades, I wonder what will happen.

>>715057470
post box + timestamp, otherwise you are a fake commie lying your ass off.

>>715058330

>>715057608
>DRM free
>need Steam-slop to download
choose one

>>715058023
150 million bought CoD
so what

>>715058391
It's only the tenth of July and it has already reach 1.3million signatures that's another 20days+ of time another 200k at least signatures at this rate.
Can you feel it? I can feel it.

>>715058391
>1.3m signatures
>they are all genuine
>the petition gets rejected anyways

>>715058598
I hope that faggot Pewds actually gets off his ass and make a video so more normies take notice. Just making a post about it is not enough IMO. I'm glad that he's teching zoomers how to move away from microsoft and how to degoogle but it would be nice if he does his part with dealing with videogame publishers too.

>>715058576
So they have the money to create an Eol plan if they were so inclined.
Also
>150million bought Call of Duty
No they did not, that's lifetime sales and even then your number is wrong that would be 500million.

It's like saying Final fantasy sold 200million.
You would reply back by saying "which one?" Oh no I meant all of them, well that's retarded because the series is 35 years old, you measure game units sold on a game by game basis not life time sales of a series especially when the comparison original example here is not comparing lifetime sales of The Crew 1 and 2 but only the Crew 1.

>>715058509
I can download my entire library then uninstall steam and run the .exes without launching the app.

>>715057898
>Ubisoft EULA
It's not just Ubisoft and it's not something they can even enforce but I guess it hit the front page of Reddit or something so it must be big news.

>>715058932
>but I need Steam-slop
dropped

>>715059060
Have you heard that Nintendo can just now brick your console???
WOW, just wow. What will they think of next?
Loot boxes and battle passes?
Hats?
Made by the community and they get chump change for it?

>>715058330
>Thor
lmao

>>715058391
Prove it.

>>715058442
Isn't the entire catalog of video games made in Japan and the United States?
What will change in those two countries if that European law is applied?

>>715059060
More people are finally cottoning on EULA being absurdly retarded after years of blindly agreeing to them to play their game. Ubishit and all the other greedy fuckers pushing those deserve to be mocked and it's long overdue.

>3M views
Holy FUCK! They're really fucking at it now. They want people to feel sorry for PirateSoftware and call SKG another Gamergate.

>>715051950 (OP)
They will invalidate as many as it fucking takes.

And even if it somehow passes, Ross will be droned or WW3 will get kicked off just to stop you from owning something.

Why are they trying so fucking hard to turn SKG into another Gamergate?

>>715059496
>What will change in those two countries if that European law is applied?
If they want to sell in the EU they have to comply.

>>715059796
How the fuck did Chet fall off so much from his Valve days? Why is he such a fag now?

>>715059796
Does Chet himself even play games?

>>715059836
I think the only thing this campaign would do is reduce the number of european-regioned games

>>715059796
>Ross doesn't play games
What? Does he even know who Ross is? He's got a YouTube channel that's 18 years old with games he's played, his favourite game of all time if Half Life and Half life 2.
How can he be shit talking Ross and not do the most basic research into looking who the creator of Freemans' mind. You'd think that one of the original writers for Half life would be happy that a fan of his work is getting big attention.

>>715059496
For most companies: nothing because they already comply one way or another with what SKG wants (dedicated servers or offline play).
For companies like Ubisoft or Blizzard, they won't be able to revoke purchased licenses like The Crew or Overwatch 1 without:
>an actually valid reason that is not related to information the purchaser has no access to at the time of purchase (like "it's too expensive to keep the servers up or to patch an offline mode")
>or a specifically dated end of use license (like "WARNING: this license gives you access to this game until JANUARY 1rst 2026, you will have to repurchase a license past that date")
>or pull out of the European market
If what you're asking is will it have repercussion in the US or Asian markets for consumer rights? Who knows? It could both lead to further legislations in those places or nothing changing at all.

>>715059796
I've seen this posted so many times now and I still can't understand the claim that Ross "doesn't play games"
Ross has an entire youtube series about playing (mostly) obscure games.
Ross has an autistic list of games he wants to play on his website.
Ross talks about games all the time on his monthly fan chats.
Why does he claim Ross "doesn't play games" when we have so much evidence that he does?

>>715059796
>People like this, who know they are on the wrong, so they choose to somehow make a matter of owning a video game you buy political

How does owning a game relate to which retard I want in the white house?

>>715060291
It's a lazy dismissal tactic by the intellectually dishonest
>"oh why are you doing this, you don't really care you don't even take part in said sport/ industry/ media so why should people pay attention to you?"

>>715054812
>so is the referee
We're not in the clear yet.

>>715055146
Those who disagree can vote with their wallets.

>>715060206
>He's got a youtube channel
AI generated.

>>715060067
>reduce the number of european-regioned games
Nope, the market is too big and AAA companies are in too deep of a shit to just pull out.
They will take the small profit hit by complying instead of a massive one of pulling out of the EU market.

>>715060792
I just bought 3 extra skins.

>>715061000
>small
lmao
you think releasing the source code and designing multiplayer in another way because commies told them to would be small?
are you fucking retarded?
the EU is over.

>>715059796
He's on the side of anti-truth and anti-logic.

>>715051950 (OP)
SKG will never pass in its current state because of the extra burden it will place on the indie developer community.
>Many marginalized developers—whether part of the LGBTQ+ community or working in underrepresented racial or ethnic groups—operate in environments already strained by limited resources, smaller teams, and systemic barriers to funding.
>“If these proposals become law without nuance,” said one Zurich-based queer indie dev who wished to remain anonymous, “we could be forced to release server code or build fallback systems we don’t have the budget for. Larger studios might weather that. We can’t.”

>>715059637
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/K7M33PEoTa2ysudxKZm6EA/

>>715061150
big
if
true

>>715061068
>designing multiplayer in another
Nobody is forcing them to do that.
>releasing the source code...would be small?
Yes. GitHub accounts are free. You end the service, you release the code. It's that easy.

>>715061000
TRVTH NVKE
WITNESSED

>>715061320
>just release all of the source code
>including 3rd party code
>just upload it
>lol
you are in fact retarded

Can corpo shills tell me how exactly I as a consumer will detriment from this passing?

>>715061746
you won't get multiplayer anymore.
remember when they geo-block you, say "Thank you commie EU".
Same when they turn multiplayer into monthly subscriptions.

The reason why SKG has so many opponents is because Nintendo just released a console with Gamekey cards and console bricking terms.
/v/ is nintendo fan central so of course they must hate this.

>>715061634
>just release all of the source code
Correct, actually all software should be forced to be open source.
>including 3rd party code
correct
>just upload it
yes
>lol
seethe bootlicker

>>715061634
explain why he is for me

>>715061819
>you won't get multiplayer anymore
And the downside is?

>>715051950 (OP)
>Thanks for your purchase, that will be $80 for the game, $10 for VAT, and $10 extra for the Stop killing games tax.
>What? Of course there's an SKG tax, Concord and those 400 extraction shooter servers won't pay for themselves

>>715061819
>remember when they geo-block you
already debunked, they will comply just like everyone else did

>>715061819
>you wont get multiplayer anymore
This either cuts game price in half of by 100% because i’m not purchasing hald a game for full price. And those that have MP will be forced to sell me the whole package and not pretentious loicence
>Same when they turn multiplayer into monthly subscriptions.
Not a functional monetisation strategy for 99% of games

>>715062039
>no demand

>>715051950 (OP)
>Thinking this will pass in Late Stage Capitalism

Just be glad you don't have to pay per hour to play the game.

>>715051950 (OP)
I'm getting tired of winning all the time.

>>715056797
>you won't be able to play any new games aside from indie crap.
And that's a good thing!

>>715061930
>open source shit
lol
>just ignore copyright and licenses and go bankrupt when 3rd parties sue you
t. commie retard

>>715062781
Also all the games that come to GOG. They already comply with SKG since they are DMG free. You can play them forever.

>>715062039
>plus sign here to subscribe to the multiplayer service only 10 euro bucks per month
>yes originally we wanted to make it free, but some bald weirdo made a petition and now we have to charge for it

>>715062191
>I get less
and you will pay more, because of EU taxation, comrade. So that the EU can fund more migration ships.

>>715058676
it isn't a petition and they can't "reject" it, they will come to a conclusion either way
if the conclusion they come to is not a desirable one then so be it but at least we have an answer from the EU on whether or not they care about consumer rights in regard to video games

>>715062914
GOG will just have to guarantee that all multiplayer servers run forever.

>>715061930
>Correct, actually all software should be forced to be open source.

>>715062969
10 euros?? Nah I don’t wanna
>Mr. Shmegelburgermann our sales are at an all time low!!

>>715052097
You forgot the part where in the very first panel, you sign and agree to the fact that they can destroy the bike at any moment.
>B-BUT THAT'S BAD!!!
Then why did you pay for it?

>>715063106
it's voluntary.

>>715063032
>get a game for half price
>this is bad

>>715063159
millions even pay 10 bucks extra for 3 day early access lmao
anyway, the bald guy and everyone that signed this shit will get blamed.

Thankfully no one is anonymous, every retard will get hunted down.

>>715063169
Why did you advertise your bike as a good and not a service/contract?

>>715063118
No. The devs need to release the code so private servers can be set up by players.

>>715063252
remember the CoD on PS3/3-shitty that was missing the campaign?
same price as the others.

>>715063204
so is buying meth and yet it is illegal because it is harmful to consumers

>>715063325
GOG will just run the servers endlessly
>but we want the code
fuck you commie

>>715063270
1.3 million reddit brains branded forever

>>715063143
>no backdoors is bad
>being able to fork and do your thing is bad
>no loicense fuckery is bad
Care to explain why, faggot?

>>715059753
Wonder what his dad thinks of all of this.

>>715063289
Because the advertising was for a client, which is a good. Your connection to the server is a service, and you said you understood that that service can be revoked when you bought the client.

>>715062856
>when 3rd parties sue you
Sue for what?
They purchased the 3rd party code to make a server. If they released the code the only thing that changes is the people who will host this server now.

Making something open source doesn't mean you relinquish copyright.

>>715063683
How is this any different from chink scam of selling you a picture of an item instead of a real item

>>715063143
Hi microjeet shill

>>715063169
>Then why did you pay for it?
I paid for it first, only then I was presented with the agreement.
That's making me sign it under duress and it makes it null and void.

>>715063560
>care to explain why it's fine for eurofaggot cops to bust down your door and steal anything on your computer because "everything should be forced to be open source" ?

>>715057295
>blank law
it is intended to be since it is a DIRECTIVE, not a regulation
eu directives are written as guidelines instead of being very specified laws. that is because they are directives member nations have to comply to but the exact specifics of how it is enacted is up to the member states and their laws.
they are directives after all, not laws. member nations make their own laws that comply with the directive
eu regulations on the other hand are more specified laws that member nations have to comply to. then there are also eu decisions

>>715063891
Nah, you’ll be forced to publish yourself while smiling also

>>715063683
>Your connection to the server is a service
If the client doesn't work without the server they should be forced to provide the server files.
I don't need to connect to their servers, just give me the files I will set up my own.

>>715063964
>you will own nothing and be happy

>>715063683
Reddit brains have a big difficulty getting their head around this
a game is like a concert ticket: a product that entitles you to a service. A band can't just come and play at your house every night because you bought one ticket.

>>715063810
Because he literally told you that it was a picture of an item.
>>715064041
This is not what you paid for and you are not entitled to the proprietary backend of a developer's works.

>>715063891
>everything should be forced to be open source
But everything I program I put on GitHub anyway, so it's already is.

Also you are confusing commercial software with personal files.

>>715064082
Nah, I will own everything and be happy. Copro kikes won’t tho but that’s a good thing

>>715064186
>This is not what you paid for and you
Actually I paid for a game that didn't include any expiration date. So they either should refund me when they shut it down or make it possible for me to self host.

>>715064234
>game sources aren't your personal files

>>715064186
You are also told that this is “an image of an item” when scammed like this. Somewhere deep down the description in chink language etc etc. The question stands, how is that any different from a scam and why I should tolerate corpo ability to even put such clause in their EULAs.

>>715064420
No, if you sell it it's commerical software.

>>715061150
>It doesn't say no.
>"It is extremely unlikely"
>Let me tell you what it means. It means it will harm SOME
...no it doesn't? is he illiterate

>>715064176
I have never once seen an Anti Stop Killing Games post that doesn't just resort to petty name calling or likening buying a game to buying a concert ticket when it has never been advertised as such. Tell me, are you being paid by corporations to do their bidding or are you doing it for free?

>>715057013
>>715063904
>>715057295
>A directive is a legal act adopted by the EU institutions addressed to the EU Member States and, as laid down in Article 288 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union, is binding as to the result to be achieved. A directive is part of the EU’s secondary law, the body of law that derives from the principles and objectives set out in the EU treaties (primary law).
>The national authorities of each EU country to which the directive is addressed determine the form and the methods they use to incorporate the directive into their national law (formally known as ‘transposition’). Generally, this needs to be done within 2 years of the directive’s adoption.

"The national authorities of each EU country to which the directive is addressed determine the form and the methods they use to incorporate the directive into their national law"
Directives are left a bit vague for this reason since they are used as a base for writing national laws that are far more specific. You don't go to court on directive but on the actual national laws that comply to it. EU regulations are a different thing

>>715064471
that "commercial software" is compiled code you mouthbreathing retard and if you think the source to a game i'm working on belongs to you because I sold it on steam you need to actually kill yourself

>>715064836
>what, you have an opinion that isn't the same as the reddit hive brain? You must be a big evil corpo!!!!
reddit

>>715064176
Nigger, the ticket will clearly say "1 night only" or "weekend concert". But with a video game, they just say "fucking idk, lol, whenever we feel like it", that's the fucking problem.

When I go get a haircut, It's between 5:30 and 6:00pm, anyone can easily tell that the SERVICE is 30 minutes long and that's it. If I buy a disc, I own the physical disc (as per what Ubisoft literally says when they mention destruction of "product"), what I don't know, and what this initiative is mostly about, is WHEN THAT SERVIVE WILL END. You have absolutely no idea when it will.

Sometimes it's years and still ongoing like Team Fortress 2, and sometimes its literally a few weeks or even days like The Culling 2 or Concord. Those games at least gave refunds, but Law Breakers didn't and that was barely a year.

If you don't want to host your games for too long (as the crew is being sued for not giving enough notice, I believe 2 years) then LET US HOST THE FUCKING SERVERS OURSELVES, I DON'T CARE IF YOU KIKES DON'T LIKE IT, I DON'T NEED SKILL BASED MATCHMAKING, MONETIZATION, AND ALL THIS OTHER MIDDLEWHERE, YOU CAN EASILY REMOVE IT, EITHER SAY WHEN THE SERVICE WILL END OR GIVE US THE ABILITY TO HOST THEM OURSELVES, IT'S NOT HARD. Developers, users, and everyone with a brain favors this initiative because it will benefit EVERYONE, it's the giant publisher, shot-term hedge-fun kikes that don't.

>>715051950 (OP)
They should make a documentary celebrating this victory. Now, what should it be called... How about "Triumph of the Will"?

>>715054635
So she is libertarian?

>>715064943
Case in point, you've failed to come up with an argument and immediately jump to petty insults

>>715064176
then it shouldn't be a problem for corpos to list clearly the expiration date on all their games, like concert tickets ;)

>>715064869
>if you think the source to a game i'm working on belongs to you because I sold it on steam you need to actually kill yourself

God you are so fucking retarded I can't even explain it. Just because something is open source doesn't mean that it isn't copyrighted or that you lose ownership.

>>715055863
>Vote with your wallet.
I did
My ID required for signature was in my wallet

>>715055863
You think your average normalfag understands that? They'll just keep buying no matter what.