I know that the assassin plotline fucks with Fe3's original story, but I thought that katarina and kris where cute.
>>715182793 (OP)The whole "Kris actually did everything but let Marth take the credit" plot is more egregious, what were they even thinking with that?
>>715182793 (OP)The Assassin plot is more a pacing issue. The actual writing is pretty decent for FE standards, beyond just the absurdity of...when Gharnef would create an assassin cult out of an orphanage? No shame about enjoying Kris and Katarina's relationship, most people would argue that is the best part of that remake.
It really is more this
>>715184430. It's such blatant pandering and borderline character assassination (lol). Marth doesn't need Kris at all and Kris taking outright lines from other characters to justify this is stupid. IntSys did a better job with Chrom and Robin next game, in terms of making a proper working relationship between a royal and tactician/player-insert. And even then, Robin just takes consumes all of Chrom's development for little gain...
>>715185118Didnโt Kris ruin Marth and Jaegan having enough of Langโs bullshit.
fe12 is great
I didn't like how marth turned into a wimp who needed kris as a babbysitter but the story doesn't matter very much. Kris is a useful gameplay unit that fills important roles that are lacking in the base roster (high defense tank, axe unit, even fkris as a nosferatank).
The new maps are kinda gimmicky and overall not my favorites, but they are nice for the pacing since you get a few small maps mixed among the big maps.
The only thing I really hate about fe12 is that it made Malice a myrmidon instead of keeping her a merc.
>>715188468There was no Myrmidon class until FE4. Only Mercs. They just made the faster Mercs into Myrmidons.
>>715182793 (OP)Guys me and a few guys want to do an fe6 drafft race but we cant file a savefile that works with an english patch.
You guys have a savefile for hard mode?
>>715188483I am a nigger and i will bbc rape shamir to like me instead of you!
What will you do?
>>715189658Shut up Catherine and stop using Thunderbrand for raping people, otherwise I'll make take it from you and give it to Lysithea
>>715189840nice boobs, too bad she's not very attractive in-game
>>715191831That's the fault of the ugly DS game art styles
>>715189115Do they get an inherent crit bonus on promotion like swordmasters in later games? I haven't played FE12 and I can't remember from 11.
Why are we being prosecuted?
>>715193994Cute Zelestia.
Not judging, but is it AI?
>>715193942no but they get an evade boost instead
>>715193942after promotion
In fe11 swordmasters get +10 hit, snipers get 5 hit 5 crit, berserkers get +10 crit
in fe12 swordmasters get +10 avoid and snipers/berserkers are the same
I think.
>>715194078Artists busy drawing the latest fotm gacha girl to give my gal any art.
>>715189115>>715193942Question, Do Mercs and Myrms really deserve to be two separate classes?
>>715196231no
it's probably only a thing because fe6 didn't have branched promotions
>>715196231They could do more to differentiate them but I think the real reason Myrms exist is to give certain characters a Japanese samurai inspired flair to them. It's obvious when half of them come equipped with Killing Edges or Wo Daos AKA literal katanas.
>>715191831she's cute, CUTE
>>715196231Mercs are more all rounders who can tank a hit or two, myrms go all in on speed and crit and usually more frail.
>>715198284I think anon is trying to imply that you can just have separate characters in one singular footlocked swordlocked class who can fill those separate niches. There's not really any other two classes who share so much alike. Even Pegs and Wyverns have different weapons in some games, including the original FE1.
>>715198656I like hero as a promo
>>715198656in fe1 wyverns are just promoted pegasi. they use the same weapons
personally I think wyverns should have less movement than pegasus knights in gba style games
>>715198656pirate and axe fighter are similar
>>715198909I forgot about Pirate, you're right. Also Archer and Hunter.
>>715196231Mercs can use axes on promotion
Thinking about a H4 team
>marth
>kris (berserker)
>marisha
>catria (paladin)
>feena
>xane
>2-3 of merric / etzel / katarina / yumina / wrys / linde
>rody / luke (horseman)
>caeda? (sniper)
>palla? (swordmaster)
Trying to determine which other units might be worth training. And considering replacing palla or caeda at some point
>frey / cain / est / reiden / navarre / sirius / jake / random cute girls with bad stats
>no FE thread yesterday
>this one is slow as hell
What happened? Did shitposters who make up 90% of FE thread posts fuck off or something?
>>715202520Fuck off so the other 10% is gone
FE7 really hits you with 2 of the worst maps in the series back-to-back with Unfulfilled heart and Pale Flower of Darkness.
>>715202609That's 100% though you want FE threads to be gone for good?
>>715202363use Roger, he has 7 base speed and almost the same growths as Luke
>>715188483Why can't you appreciate on model shamir you freak
>>715204073That's Shamir after we have multiple children (canon)
>>715204175Cope, you don't like shamir
>>715202520Fire Emblem fatigue.
That's why you are posting here as feg is also slow.
>>715203665What would you reclass him to?
>>715204202I love Shamir
>>715204395That's understandable. You can only talk so much about the series
>>715204454Let's hope so
>>715204751You don't love her either if you only can think of her in big tits
>>715182793 (OP)This along with Shadow Dragon, Gaiden, and Engage are the 4 worst games in the entire series.
You are objectively wrong if you think otherwise.
>>715204810Of course I can think of her as that, but she does have nice tits even regularly
>>715205259Fuck off annoying faggot. Aceman and Nigger are the only tripfags welcome here.
>>715205598The fandom just had an oh shit moment with the news that IS needs more help to develop the next game. Weโre gonna be out of FE for a little while.
>>715204659cavalier is fine, and then dracoknight after promo
>>715205921Was it even confirmed that it is FE and not some other franchise?
>>715204454I can't remember how many years it's been since i last played FEH, but it it went end of service and we got an offline version I'd probably buy it.
>>715206043FE is the one they work on the most, Paper Mario and Warioware are only every once in a blue moon.
>>715182793 (OP)You know, I just now realized Kris has the same name as the MC in Deltarune...
Anyway... Assassin subplot is mid. Mystery had a good plot, all it really needed was supports.
Telliusfags, can you match up each Laguz race with what you think are their real life racial equivalents? Obviously Beorc are meant to be Whites since theyโre the default and actually human but what about all the different types of Laguz?
>>715207628Dragons are Jews because they are better than humans.
>*beep*โฆ*beep*โฆ*beeeeeeeeeeeeep*
>>715207821Bro wasn't around during 2010-2012 to see what FE on life support was really like. New Mystery not getting localized had all the Western fans feeling like FE was truly done here.
>>715208123DS era was trash in general. Two remakes, one mid and one pretty good.
Well this was a little anti climatic.
Marth gets told by Hardin that he hated him all this time.
Then you have Marth fight him.
>No boss dialogue.
>Marth says nothing as Hardin say its last words as himself.
>As soon as the chapter ends Marth doesnt mourn Hardin or anything.
>Gharnef scare off.
>Thrown into the assasin side story right away.
>Its like he was am random boss holding the Mcguffin.
They did him dirty.
>>715208123I wasn't reading a lot of FE community posting back then, but it did give me a shock when they didn't bring over FE12, since I had bought SD and intended to buy it too, but wasn't yet on the level of importing JP copies.
>>715208534I miss him magically regaining his turban like in the Snes version
>>715208123>New Mystery not getting localized And absolutely nothing of value was lost! Spits on the original fe3 in so many ways, and was the one to introduce that avatar shit and ruin the franchise (No Mark doesnโt count since he was only used as tutorial).
>>715187048Absolutely. Jagen not being there and letting Kris steal the lines take a lot of impact out of the scenario. Outside of it being one of the times Jagen losing his shit and being able to stand up to him plays into the theme of not just blindly following authority. Dude is a very honorable knight, so him getting up in Lang's face despite his advanced age is not only him throwing his weight around as a fellow senior, but also shows his absolute devotion to Marth. And when they both come together, it shows growth in both Marth as a character and the narrative structure, that it is more than just "go do what people say."
Kris doing the same not only removes a character who needs every line he can get without his playable status but lacks impact. There's a world of difference when you have this over-seasoned knight saying "Fuck you" compared to some upstart kid. Especially if said kid is supposed to be (You). Even if you know nothing of FE3's plot, (You) already knew this arrangement couldn't last. So it comes off more like saying the obvious than deciding to go your own way. It just completely deflates the tension and impact of everything.
>>715187709>I didn't like how marth turned into a wimp who needed kris as a babbysitter but the story doesn't matter very much.Outside of the fact that the story very much did matter --the whole adventure is meant to feel decidedly tragic with how many betrayals go on-- Marth was always supposed to be pretty wimpish. Dude's a 15โ17-year-old dandy put on the frontlines. Shadow Dragon just unnecessarily punched up his script to make him sound wise beyond his years because 8-4 are hacks. It isn't really Kris's fault.
>>715208315>Two remakes, one mid and one pretty good.Both were shit and two of the worst games in the entire franchise, just play FE3.
>>715208726>Marth is a wimpThe guy demolished like seven kingdoms before he was 20.
>>715208808Gameplay wise I think New Mystery is mostly fine. Though a lot of that is solid maps inherited from the original.
>>715208715Mark predates Kris
>>715209112Mark is a non factor. Though it is funny how much of a obvious prototype he is.
>>715207760I thought Herons were the Jews because โmuh Serenes Forest Holocaust!โ Plus the fact that theyโre said to be the ones closest to the Goddess?
Arenโt the Dragons more meant to represent Asians?
>>715209337Herons are Armenians, actually.
>>715208808I have a soft spot for New Mystery, but objectively that game is not a good deal. Both games are unnecessary regressions in design from the Tellius duology, don't utilize their new content well, and have rather baffling design decisions that either homogenize some of the cooler ideas in the original games or are just bad. Just because New Mystery doesn't say your units are replaceable, it doesn't mean it has better ideas. You are just better off playing any other FE.
>>715208959Yeah, carried on the shoulders of the continent's greatest warriors and royals. Not to undermine his achievements, but he still meant to be a very Classical Shonen Hero Boy than Superman. It is his optimism, do-good spirit, charisma, and determination that made him the Hero of the Ragtag, then his martial prowess. He isn't weak of course, but a big point about his character, especially in a game meant to subvert the Classical Hero Fantasy like Mystery of the Emblem, comes from how easy it is to exploit such a person. It is why Elice warns Kris to have his back, she knows things will only get tough as Hardn begins his Villain Arc. Having to fight his old friends and Continent's Greatest Warriors is going to hurt him, more than just losing his home country way back than in Game 1.
I don't think the addition of Kris made Marth look more weak than he is. It is still Marth's story at the end of the day, Kris doesn't get much of their own commentary so much as be the whipping boy for the HIDEOUS amount of exposition FE3/12 have. But he certainly isn't ADDING much to Marth's story.
>>715209443>Herons are Armenians, actually.Arenโt Armenians basically the same as Jews anyways? Same big nose and general phenotype, plus donโt they both originate in Mesopotamia?
>>715209239How is it not?
Mark makes basically the 3 Lords of FE7 the dumbest ones since they don't come up with their strategies like other lords.
>>715208660Really? That sounds kinda funny.
>>715193994Need more veil'd girls in FE.
So in Engage toothpaste-chan actually speaks?
Why was it that hard for them to give Byleth at least some voiced lines of dialog here in there?
>>715210015>>715209337>>715207628I think Herons are actually supposed to represent Native Americans because they have that whole โNoble Savageโ motif going on and are most spiritually intuned with nature and shit. The Serenes Forest genocide can be a stand in for The Trail of Tears genocide.
>>715210012What you think of Echoes? I find it probably the best remake, especially for really trying to make the weird design quirks of the original work.
>carried on the shoulders of the continent's greatest warriors and royals. I half disagree with that. Most of the most capable warriors and royals work for the enemy, Especially in FE 11, where the only people of real renown you get are Hardin, Minerva, Astrid, and Gotoh. Most of your army is pretty scrappy even compared to something like Roy or Ike.
>>7152103923H was 100% trying to ape Persona with the silent protag approach.
>>715210324Most of the games have a strategist character, like Merlinius or Malledus. Mark is just another one of those.
It is. He basically just turns back into his Book 1 self, which includes him regaining his turban. Pretty accidentally funny.
>>715210889Except Mark is fawned over by the main Lords constantly. Especially Lyn, who now frequently mistakes other Avatar characters for Mark when she makes guest-appearances (I'm surprised she didn't soak her incorporeal loins over Alear in Engage).
>>715210324Plenty of other lords rely on their tacticians and seniors for the brains' part. Ike with Soren, Roy with Markus, Chrom with Robin, Corrin with Azura, Sigurd with Oifey, Seliph with Lewyn, Leif with August. The Tactician is a commonly used archetype in FE's history. It not about making the lord appear unintelligent but show the values in cooperation and their own growth. Success at such can vary (corrin is one dumb dwagon), but it isn't bad to rely on help.
Plus the FE7 trio is...pretty dumb in their own right. Hector tanks the collective IQ by a good few points but even then they aren't exactly Elibe's Brightest Minds on a good day.
>>715210392Koei-Tecmo wanted it to be Nintendo's Persona. Simple as that.
Long answer, it supposed to make you feel more connected to Byleth and avoid that awkward issue with player choice-focused narratives where the dialogue option doesn't provide enough information (>YES, >NO BUT YES, >SARCASTIC YES, >YES WITH A BAD JOKE) or outright different to what you said (>[GLASS HIM]). Shez suffers a bit from this, but it seems like by Three Hopes they understood how to balance it out or just accept the trade-off.
>>715210528>What you think of Echoes? I find it probably the best remake, especially for really trying to make the weird design quirks of the original work.Being the "best remake" isn't really that high a bar.
Even without that hang-up, I'm not a fan. I think there are similar issues of half-assing new content additions like Combat Arts and the forge with the bad map design, and I think all the new story additions are genuinely terrible. Berkut and Conrad genuinely take away from Alm and Celica's struggles and actively tank the last few sensibilities of Ruldoph's plans. The only thing it felt comfortable enough connecting with the rest of the Archanean trilogy is fucking Grima, before they were everyone's STEP ON ME mommy/daddy. And...
>$45 dollars of Day 1 DLCfuck off
>>715206043Itโs either Paper Mario or FE. Wario Ware doesnโt strike me as needing heavy dev effort and
>lol Advance Wars
>>715210716>Favorite pairings?No, fuck off! Your shipping faggotry ruined Fire Emblem.
>>715211087>ConstantlyHe basically vanishes from the plot and one of his endings has people wonder what his deal was.
Lyn is mostly just down bad for him because IS knows western fans want to fuck her.
>>715211389Could also be Rhythm Heaven Groove. That game only has a 2026 release date and IntSys are also the makers of that series.
>>715211368>The only thing it felt comfortable enough connecting with the rest of the Archanean trilogy is fucking GrimaAnd you know IS is going to force even more connections to him when they remake FE4.
>>715211368>Koei-Tecmo wanted it to be Nintendo's Persona.The social sim stuff is half-baked af compared to Persona though, you just have your usual Supports + S-Rank ranking and then just the added Tea Time mechanic and thatโs it. You canโt even properly date the characters like you can in Persona.
>>715211368That's fair. I find Echoes to be the best remake mostly because it tries so hard to stick to what defines Gaiden and sets it apart from the rest off the franchise. 11 and 12 both feel more half baked by comparision, especially Shadow Dragon. As a game on it's own, I find it harder to judge.
>>715211368>Koei-Tecmo wanted it to be Nintendo's Persona. Simple as that.No, I'm pretty sure they just copied what Fates and Echoes did, like they were told. Then just had the protagonist shut up to avoid the Corrin and Celica criticisms.
>>715210716>favorite cuckoldry?
>>715211886Fates was actually ironically better in itโs sim elements than 3H, at least you could actually interact with your spouse while youโre a married couple and invite them to your room and shit.
>>715210716I am an absolute sucker for Vaike/Maribelle, he strikes me as the most likely father for Brady.
>>715211797Persona as a series does have some pretty big compromises for the sake of the Social Link System. This is why 3 kind of have to be empty as fuck plot-wise to have all the school day shenanigans. Since TH is supposed to have a real narrative and story, there are some things going to be lost, between the setting and plot structure. You can't really have super big growth moments like a Persona Evolution or a full character storyline without the S-Link frameworks and compromises. It is also a little goofy to go "HEY LYSITHEA LETS GO BOWLING" on most days, much less with Byleth's role and character ideas. I can agree there should be more casual hang-out ideas that aren't tied to schooling like seeing plays, invitations to go fishing, or group study dates, but what is there does all fit and tie into the themes of personal growth and motivation. Especially once War Phase begins and many characters need more things to take their minds off of suicidal idealization.
Also Persona dating isn't really that in-depth compared to Support Grinding in TH. I do want those lovey-dovey romance lines, though...
>>715211886outside of how Celica always been a normal character with a voice and never been disliked before Echoes dropped (seriously, compare the text of Gaiden with Echoes in regards to their fight at the end of Act II), Byleth is still their own person. They aren't like Heroes' Summoner, they are still an active participant and character in the world. Shutting up for the most part is tied into such, not an excuse to save lines and make it easier to blackball bad actors (suffah chris niosi!). And you still can make characters beloved with even such a system, see Yu and Joker from Persona.
>>715211670That wouldn't work, Jugdral and Archanean/Valentia are too far apart in distance and age. The only thing I could possibly see is them saying Forneus was some secret Loptuous cultist.
>>715211368>Shez suffers a bit from this, but it seems like by Three Hopes they understood how to balance it out or just accept the trade-off.Shez is also fully voiced protag. Even Byleth themselves is fully voiced in Engage and 3 Hopes which is like night and day compared to Byleth in 3 Houses
Imo, silent protagonists just never work, not in otherwise fully voiced games and especially not when your mc has fixed backstory and appearance
It can only work in something like Fate or Awakening that are text based
>>715213212Episode 10823 of 3H fags pretending not to understand what people mean when they talk about the obvious persona influence on their game
>>715213114IS will find a way to BS a connection, like having Loptous rant in his dying throes that the humans will inevitably destroy the dragons and each other as if he can see the future.
>>715213114I wish war phase had more unique content. Keeping the school stuff feels weird.
>>715213226>Shez is also fully voiced protagThat's what I was saying. The dialogue options don't always match to what Shez was going to say, creating that dissonance in player and game. And even if it did, it wasn't particularly interesting to have Shez repeat what you selected. It just waste time as it added up. This is why Modern BioWare games moved more towards an emotional response system, to help keep some surprise while creating some connectivity, you can shape their personality through speech options while knowing what they will say. Hell, you can say this is a bit of a silent debate on the matter, look at how many Silent Protagonist mods are out for Fallout 4 or the adoration the fanbase have for CHARNAME and Tav from Baldur's Gate to understand how little gaming has truly struck a balance. I don't think there is much wrong with silent protagonists in voice acted games, even in games where they have a more set character like Mass Effect's Commander Shepard. But I do understand why the dissonance is hard to rationalize for both gamers and devs.
A game that really made me bitter towards the idea of a create-a-character needing to voice the option I selected would be Divinity: Original Sin 1. That game had you create a duo of such and shape each of their own personalities, so you get this really infuriating back and forth, especially when you have them agree with each other. Imagine the "Hi, I'm Jerry Smith!" scene, if you would excuse the leddit show reference.
>>715213585Ehhhhhh, I would be mostly okay with that. It's less cringe than this super-secret prison dungeon with a hidden evil dragon to justify the INSANE retcons Awakening did to Archanean Lore.
Keep in mind, I kind of like how Heroes' expanded on Grima's characterization and ideas. They made them a far more interesting character than most FE bosses. But I don't really like them as an entity attached to Archanean's Lore.
>>715213212>0 transgender characters in Engage>1 transgender character in 3HDid the person who made this play either game
>>715212479You are not your character.
>>715214245Alear being trans is part of the plot, but it's transdragon.
Nobody in 3H is trans. If we're counting Treehouse bullshit, then Rosado is trans (and suddenly so are Limstella and Kyza). You don't want to make that argument, it'll only negatively affect your point.
>>715214404There is so much incorrect in this post.
>>715214404>but it's transdragon.Fucking lol you cannot be serious
>Nobody in 3H is transIsn't the pink haired lady with massive tits actually a dude?
>If we're counting Treehouse bullshit, then Rosado is transNo? In neither English nor Japanese does Rosado consider himself a woman at any point
>>715214187You can't really get rid of that mechanic thanks to how much 3H is balanced around those systems. It is more the framing and story justifications to keep you locked in Garreg Mach, ontop of how it only has the two states between Acts 1 and 2 that made it way more lame than it should be. War Phase just really can't have too much unique content for the life sim parts just by the nature of story and mechanical progression in Fire Emblem (the series' simplicity is a double-edged sword at times), but I can agree they could have done more to make it feel way more emotional.
Garreg Mach is also just awful to navigate through. Hopes' war camp just was way better to move through, between the smaller size and less loading zones. But it did lack notable landmarks beyond the mess hall and training field. So I do hope they get better at these navigatable bases as a whole. The Somniel was honestly something of a step back despite the aesthetical improvements, especially with they removed the ability to teleport directly to units for some backwards-ass reason...
>>715214605>Isn't the pink haired lady with massive tits actually a dude?If you mean Cornelia, no that was actually a mistake. Cleobulus, the real Slitherer behind the persona, was mistakenly thought as male in 3H's translation since it is a male name. It's completely unknown in JP since they aren't really much a character compared to Cornelia herself. It doesn't really matter, unless you want to add it to the scoresheet of "Nintendo Localizers Fucks Up Fire Emblem".
>The state of The FE fanbase in 2025.
>>715214906I know. It's a shame because I do like the idea of the two parts feeling very different.
>>715215216Almost based, shame about the furshit.
>>715214605>No? In neither English nor Japanese does Rosado consider himself a woman at any pointWhlie I'm at it, this is true, but a bit of a stretch. Treehouse DID change some of Rosado's lines to make his gender identity and fashionista ideas more ambiguous, so people can headcanon him as trans. It's not really as blatant as making Kyza and Limstella nonbinary despite otherwise (Kyza has "the heart of a woman", which would make him closer to a transwoman by their own logic; and Limstella is a fucking puppet that literally has no sex. Even Cipher, which categorize characters by gender for the sake of effects, didn't give them any marker).
>>715215246War Phase definitely suffers from 3H's development issues. You can tell they wanted to make it feel far more grand and extravagant, but budget, time, and experience all got in the way. Hence the massive amount of repeat maps between routes and lack of variance between them. A Garreg Mach/encampment that truly felt different would have been way out of the cards and hard to justify too. Either way, it is a shame that it is like that, especially with how cool the entire setup and scenario is.
>>715214404Limstella isnโt trans, itโs nonbinary
>>715214605>Fucking lol you cannot be seriousIt's a plotpoint that Lumera slowly put Alear under gene therapy to go from being a fell dragon to a divine one.
>Isn't the pink haired lady with massive tits actually a dude? Only in the dub, and it's probably just a mistranslation.
>No? In neither English nor Japanese does Rosado consider himself a woman at any pointNice try, go tell that to the translators on twitter.
Kyza is also marked as a man in Heroes' code, but they went out of their way to say that Kyza is trans.
>>715215704>It's a plotpoint that Lumera slowly put Alear under gene therapy to go from being a fell dragon to a divine one.You unironically have tranny derangement syndrome if you seriously interpret the game this way
>Nice try, go tell that to the translators on twitter.Find me a line in the Engage translation where Rosado refers to himself as a woman or you're a lying fag. Also idgaf about Kyza I've never used that shitter nor read any of his dialogue. Idk why you're bringing him up like it's relevant.
>>715215216What did you expect from reddit?
>>715210445>>715209443>>715207760>>715207628Herons are obviously supposed to represent the Jews, they have so many real-world parallels.
>Closest to God and can hear Godโs voice, aka โGods Chosen People.โ>Infiltrates governments in order to manipulate them and subvert nations>MUH HOLOCAUST that they both never shut up about>Most Jewish intermarriages are from Jewish MEN rather than women, just like how it was a male heron Lehran who ultimately begot the Begnion Branded Royal Family (genetic studies indicate that Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews are half Jewish/Hebrew on their paternal line rather than maternal, their maternal haplogroups meanwhile are full of rare Southern Italian signatures, likely indicating that male Jews infiltrated noble Greco-Roman families and tainted their bloodlines, sound familiar?)>Micaiahโs literal name is of Hebrew originMeanwhile Dragons are the obvious Asians of Tellius since Soren is the product of a Laguz Dragon mother and Beorc father, showcasing that Dragon female/Beorc male is far more common compared to Herons being the opposite in terms of gendered interracial relationships.
Cat Laguz are obviously the Niggers of the setting, impulsive and wild, value strength above all else and Stefan is the direct descendant of a male Lion Laguz rather than a female one, also perfectly parallels on how most mulattos are from black men and cuckholdry BMWM is more common than the reverse.
why are 3hrt so obsessed with engage?
I will... to the next FE girl posted...
>>715216162>Black women are cute catgirls.Hmmmm....
>>715215598I kind of hope the next FE game tries the whole two act thing again. Be it a remake or new game. Budget should be less of a issue with TH generally selling well. As for time... Well, im assuming they got plenty of it.
>>715216678How come only Est gets laid?
>>715214404>LimstellaLimstella isn't even fucking human you goddamn retard.
>>715215216Why are you acting like people weren't posting gay fanart of Ike and Soren 15 years ago
>>715216556>Black women are cute catgirls.>Still no Beorc men go for them in-game and the Cat/Lion Branded are descended from BCC (Big Cat Cock) insteadKekaroo!
>>715217221Uhh that doesn't count chud
>Ignore all the decade old fujo/homo posting
>>715216162>Soren is a HapaNo wonder heโs a nerdy femboy who went gay, probably couldnโt pull any women with his feminine โDragonโ (Asian) genes.
>>715217306sounds good, leave the black queens to me
>>715217892>tfw too racist to find this attractive
Anyone else ideas guying an FE game right now?
>>715216678This one never fails to make me uncomfortable.
>>715218739Put the names on there so I can steal your ideas
>its tellius race schizo hours>>715217892would
>>715216828Est is the most extroverted of the trio likely just shoot her shot instead of hemming and hawing about if it is right or not. Catria loves a taken man and Palla always had a bad habit of setting aside her own interests for the sake of her little sisters.
>>715219554And then she ditches them for no reason. Alas, poor Abel...
>>715214404>limstellawhy couldn't I save her
Which waifu am I supposed to dump my BEXP into on Maniac mode
>>715219554Catria is funny to me because she looks pretty similiar to Shiida, but she lacks the ruthlessness that makes her the one for Marth.
>>715210716franz and amelia, azelle and tiltyu, osain and tanya mist and jill
>>715219664A lot of that is her own self-loathing she buried down finally bubbling to the surface. She's someone that, despite her limitless potential, got captured THREE times in the span of 3 years, and indirectly made her husband fight his boss and doom the country for her sake. The Whitewings (and Minerva too) are a trio that sort of live in their own misery, Est just finally hit a breaking point and fucked off thanks to such (like Minerva).
>>715219792It is likely intended that Catria is just someone that lacks her own drive, but lacking the history Marth and Caeda have growing up in Talys during his exile also doesn't help. She was just outclassed from the get-go.
>>715219527>its tellius race schizo hoursWould you rather Judgral incest hours?
So should FE have less incest or more? You just know that a Geneology remake localized by Treehouse will censor all the incestโฆ
>>715220550Yeah.
The only one I don't get personally is Merrich picking Elice over the Kommando mage.
>>715182793 (OP)hot take, I honestly like the weird rotoscope battle animations. Both of the DS games are underrated in general
>>715220673They were childhood friends while Linde was far away and hidden by Miloah. Merric already has the bro code's consent with Marth and he's not going to miss his shot with his dream girl.
Unrequited romance is a pretty big theme for the Archanean games as a whole, and is implied to be something of the real Curse of the Fire Emblem laid by Artemis.
>>715220976>Unrequited romance is a pretty big theme for the Archanean games as a wholeIsnโt that all Kaga games, both Archanea and Jugdral? Didnโt he once say he likes to write romantic love as the main motivator for human drama or some shit?
>>715220651>You just know that a Geneology remake localized by Treehouse will censor all the incestโฆehhh I mean fates let you do incest. lots of incest.
>>715220976I get that. It's just that Elice is kind of bland and only good for the aum staff.
>>715214901>he transitions to a "goddess"kek
>>715217892id bleach her if you know what i mean
>>715220651>Would you rather Judgral incest hours?i would like engage incest hours
>>715221359I forget, but did Treehouse not censor Azura being your literal blood-related first cousin? (No I donโt count the rest of the NBR โincestโ as incest in the first place)
>he literally becomes a glowie
kek
>>715221328He definitely does love the trope, but it is far less prominent in later games than it does build the entire framework of Archanea's backstory. Tear Ring, Berwick, and Vestaria downplay it more, but human drama are the pushing points for these stories.
>>715221472Elice just have a problem of being a late game unit in both games. By late, I mean "Final Chapter", so she never gets much development. Makes me wonder how many people even realize Marth has a sister up until Heroes...
It stuff like that that makes me wish the Archanean games would get something of a big reimagining over another shot-for-shot remake. Something akin to Sword of Mana or the FF7 Remake titles. Mix up many concepts and ideas so that many other characters and such get more interplay. It is a bit embarassing how many people in the fandom gas up Marth for being the "FIRST EMBLEM DUDE" but ignore basically everything about what makes his games notable, and Shadow Dragon is just too bad a product to recommend people.
>>715221917>FIRST EMBLEM DUDEnta and tldr.
whats wrong with being the first or the thirteenth emblem DUDE
>>715221917>He definitely does love the trope, but it is far less prominent in later games than it does build the entire framework of Archanea's backstory. Tear Ring, Berwick, and Vestaria downplay it more, but human drama are the pushing points for these stories.Would rather that be the main plot motivator than the wokefag racism shilling Tellius did.
>>715211853Shadow Dragon is weird. It makes changes, but not enough changes. Like, you get the weapon triangle, but they didn't change enemy distribution so Marth, any sword user really, suffers after you recruit Radd and Caeser. Some characters get conversations, like Caeda and Ogma in chapter 2, but mostly they're all just faces like it's the famicom era. New Mystery has its own issues, mainly Kris stealing moments from the cast, getting the lion's share of supports, and the units being inefficient at best on the easiest difficulty.
>>715222086tellius is literally human drama with cat ears pinned on
>>715206016He does look pretty solid.
I don't think another dracoknight is desirable but maybe he can be a sniper or something. Unfortunate that he lacks sword rank, unlike navarre and cain, so it would be harder to switch to horseman / swordmaster.
lethe was my tellius waifu
>>715222618Are you Black yourself or a filthy racemixer that the Goddess Yune frowns upon?
Meanwhileโฆ at Sommieโs white partyโฆ
>>715222836Laguz women FUCK beorc men
>>715222913sommie was on the epsteins list!!!
>>715222976>Laguz women FUCK beorc menOnly the Dragons, no one wants to touch the ugly Heron and Cat women, just like real life, kek.
>>715222471he is not particularly great, he just stands out due to his high base speed
he actually has usually better stats than Luke for a while, but he doesn't have as much of a luxury to switch to myrmidon/mercenary to reach doubling thresholds before promotion
the damage this scene's existence has caused to romhack map design will be felt for generations
>>715182793 (OP)Same. I really liked the avatar concept for that game because it was fresh. I stopped enjoying the concept after Awakening.
>>715223360if kris just stayed a Merc and popped in from time to time in regards to keeping marth safe and left it at that, didn't go stealing anyones lines it would be 10000% better
>>715222618POV: Your waifu brings you to meet her family for the first time.
I always thought the bells were a nice touch, although you think they'd give away your position when stalking prey.
>>715222964Lyre is a cutie. Red goes better with their purple eyes than green IMO.
>>715223508that's brigid's job not mine
>>715221359and now troonhouse removes your panty shots so eat shit
Engage has rings polishing minigame?
https://youtu.be/49UlspL1AmU?si=X8Qaj_z7xoIv6QeB
Damn, what a weird game. I kinda want to play it now
>>715223326Is it that common? I only know of Andaron Saga putting in cryptic shit like that.
>>715208726I disagree. Marth may have been somewhat naive but despite his kind nature he didn't hesitate to draw his blade for righteous causes. This is common among protagonists as it makes him more heroic and makes it clear that he is not seeking personal glory. He was a perfect role model and after finishing the game the player felt confident that he could steer the kingdom in a good direction.
However, the additional characterization in New Mystery adds another aspect to his character that was never even hinted at previously. It paints him as a pitiable character who has delusional expectations of military matters and is in the verge of a nervous breakdown. Rather than trusting Marth to run the kingdom the player hopes that Kris can somehow keep the kingdom from crumbling despite Marth's stupidity.
I only now realized that female and male Byleth have different names in Japanese - Beresu and Bereto
Damn, they had it way easier than western fans, no need to come up with weird aliases like manleth or something
>>715224946Isn't that line specifically a mistranslation? And that it's closer to, paraphrased, "Marth carries a heavy burden for being so young?" My knowledge of New Mystery is second hand.
>>715220550I think people make things seem more dramatic then they were intended.
Catria is a minor character and just one of Marth's many admirers. There was never any chance for a romance given their difference in station and Catria's main concern is Minerva, not some dumb love drama. The fact that she gets a support bonus from Marth in FE3 is just a nice bonus.
>>715222913>>715222986No wonder that little mutt is all-but-stated to be the Zero Emblem.
>>715224946Do note that Elice line is somewhat mistranslated in its own right, since the New Mystery TL is a little rushed. IIRC, it is far less harsh on Marth and updates have fixed it to be a lot less demeaning to him.
More to the point, Marth is definitely heroic and does things for righteous reasons. The problem is that Shadow Dragon's English TL has him go on rather sophomoric soliloquys because 8-4 can't help themselves. This was around the time the company was all too keen on changing characterization and game scripts for fun, with shit like Tales of Hearts R and Awakening been heavily criticized. They try to make him a far more tragic and stoic figure akin to a Shakespearean play, a knockoff Ramza Beoulve. But since New Mystery is a fan translation, wouldn't match up to that idea. That's why there's a disconnect.
>>715224992It is something of a quirk of katakana that let them get away with the different names. There wouldn't be a good way to translate the softer female name that either would make the differences too notable or lose the Ars Goetia reference. Not gonna hold Treehouse feet to the fire on that one, though Beresu is a cute name for Femleth.
>>715225808Marth definitely have a lot of admirers but Catria became the most notable thanks to...not being a terrible unit/staffbot. In all the games she's arguably a better pegi knight than Caeda is barring FE1's availability with the Silver Lance, and the Whitewings as a whole is supposed to be caught up in their own misery. It is why she became pretty famous for her unrequited love and why later games expanded on it.
>>715224992>manlethnah they're just Byleth and Frog
>>715220550It always seemed to me like Est was just a childish ditz who didn't notice much beyond her own whims, leading to repeated captures and ultimately wandering off on Abel.
>>715226076>Ars GoetiaAh, yes, it is a demon reference
They still could use something like Beleth for a guy and Bilith for a girl
>>715226097>FrogFair enough
>>715183929I want to cuddle suicidal Marianne so she doesn't do it
>>715219787Rolf
I'm unironically training Rolf in my maniac mode playthrough right now
>>715224946Barfh sisters..........
>>715226076Catria is most definitely not a better pegasus knight than Caeda in SD. Wing Spear's existence tilts it in Caeda's favor so much its nonsensical.
>>715227081>everyone and their mom agrees the Wing Spear is overly busted>every romhack still gives out busted Prfs like candy
>>715226973Could be even worse: The curse turns out to be real after all and you end up having to kill Beast Marianne for some reason or another.
Catria's ass is better than Caeda's though
>>715227164SD Wing Spear isn't inherently a busted prf. What makes it strong is the circumstances that surround it. That's why when it returned in NM, it was just okay instead of broken.
Most romhack prfs aren't that busted either. Project Ember and its ilk are a modern thing. Back the best you'd probably get is a rapier or ragnell clone which is normal.
Female Mercs that promote to Heroes are peak
>>715227567Women can't lift big swords.
Fir be like this to impress Noah
>>715219787Brom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY-8YOVRJ7w
>>715227081Yeah, forgot how stupidly cracked it was in Shadow Dragon compared to New Mystery. The lance super effective against cavs and armors is super good in the game that is flooded with cavs and armors. Who would have guessed...
>>715227293That is true~
Nowi is the most breedable FE girl
>>715228905idunn is the most breedable FE girl. she pumped out an entire army on her own
>>715229007How stretched out is her cloaca? A-asking for a friend, haha...
I'd like a Three Hopes edit of this where Claude is on the ground whining about "I wanted to see what the world is like without Rhea" or something with brevity.
>>715227567I like echidna, I really do, but her recruitment is ass surronding her with 3 axe fighters and not even giving her weapon triangle advantage, she starts with a steel axe iirc
>>715230218>fucking edelgard
I can save her with my penis
>>715230546The good ending
>>715230618my house is the golden deer though
Cum on Echidna's abs
Nibble on Echidna's quadro clit
>>715231137He gets facesat by Clarine
Do they deserve their popularity?
Would you play a game starring them as half your army?
>>715231214>Do they deserve their popularity?Post Edelgard? No.
>>715231214I didn't realize katarina won a gacha contest
>>715231214>edelchud>burnie>feh ocFE HAS FALLEN. NORMALTARDS MUST DIE
>>715231469>literal who gacha trash OC donut steele
>>715231509Kiran's canon babymama.
>>715231370oh it's citrinnes dire thunder
>>715231483Only normalfags that fall for reddit campaigns are the ones left voting for CYL.
>>715231640I want Citrinne to dire thunder me
>>715232604Oh shit, is that what that is?
I should check it out.
>>715232604how so? spoil me some plot points that is similar to engage
>>715232826Jeanne summons heroes as ghosts from other worlds to help her fight her dad.
I also have no idea and I'm not even that anon
>>715231214> Do they deserve their popularity?those that are lords - yes
>>715233540Cute and canon
I hate that you can't romance her on the other routes
Every FE should feature a romanceable dragon milf-daughter-aunt
>>715226076>This was around the time the company was all too keen on changing characterization and game scripts for funAh heck, is the "I'm a prince before a son or brother" line made up?
>In all the games she's arguably a better pegi knight than Caeda is barring FE1's availability with the Silver LanceBut how about FE11? That wing spear with Caeda from Ch1 on is hard to contest with. Also I'd probably say she's on par with Caeda in FE12 though when I played it on H2 all the Pegasus knights except for Palla blended into each other. Mostly because dracoknights having such a low speed cap got them doubled by wyverns.
>>715231214>Brave Celica is the Famicom design drawn by the Echoes artistPeak soul, none of the other CYL characters can compete.
>>715234696What about Pseudo-Pyra Celica?
>>715234656caeda is great in everything, god tier in fe11
catria is decent in fe1 and the remakes, god tier in fe3 book 2 and fe12
>>715231214>LynGenuinely popular
>CelicaRecency bias lord
>Micaiah"She Deserves it" bias/anti Camilla vote
>EdelgardUnfortunately genuinely popular and even worse is only liked by the most obnoxious people
>Marianne"She deserves it" bias
>Tiki"She deserves it" bias
>GullveigFotm OC, similar to Baldr who won later
>Bernie"She deserves it" bias
You're a fucking retard if you think anything else
>fotm
It's been 30 months.
>all of those "deserves it" for 3H characters
lol
>>715235169why did they think random side characters "deserve it"
>>715235169>Still seething 3H is actually popularFaggot.
>>715235169Lyn had people brigading behind her because they didnt want nu fe's poster child to win at the time. Micaiah was already a high ranker in CYL1/2. She'd also need an inherently large enough base to actually beat Camilla even with spite voting since midterms generally affect days 5+.
>>715235281>It's been 30 months.Yeah and nobody except deluded coomers from /feg/ give a shit about Miss Can't Even Pass the Ignatz Test
>>715235336Who fucking knows what reddit thinks
>>7152353803H deserves to be popular
Edelgard does not
Edelgard a shit
Back to the gulag with ye, Raul. We don't like your kind here
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>>715235281I mean she genuinely cant beat fucking Chloe.
Heroesfags are not real fans. When feh dies most will drop the series.
Is /feh/ really so dead that the tripspic is posting here?
>>715236528I can post in both, and both are equally dead
>>715236940Because of you
>spot the main character.jpg
>>715235825>Heroesfags are not real fans. I thought that was 3HRTfags?
>>715239347at least 3HRT is a real mainline FE game free of retarded gacha. Better than the lowest rung of faggotry. Yea it's got some radically different mechanics, but at least it's not the gacha game with baby sized maps.
>enemy AI info for FE12 chapter 15 H3/4 says the reinforcement horsemen destroy villages
Is that some kind of error or is that legit and those units will actually destroy the villages if they can get to one?
>>715240858I haven't tried it but I assume it's real
supposedly wyverns try to destroy a village in chapter 21
What do you do with Est in FE12? I was thinking falcoknight -> swordmaster, but swordmaster is strictly worse than horseman. Feels like a waste to train an "Est" only to end up with an inferior unit.
>>715242129fkris' outfit?
>>715241072Well, I'm probably not going to science it, but goddamn this chapter looks like a slog and a half.
>>715242129Make one of Minerva in this style please
>>715243083Last time I played I used berserker Kris to kill the left ballista asap, rescue staffed Est, and slowly went around the map spamming triangle attack.
>>715221604Aura and hype moments
>>715243512maybe if youre from stupid town
>>715243541then feel free to post some moments you consider auraful and hype, smart town resident
>>715243643Minerva's so pretty
>>715243839Ivy loves using that Dragon's Fist, doesn't she?
Wife wife wife wife wife!!!
>>715221917>Makes me wonder how many people even realize Marth has a sister up until Heroes...Most people coming from Smash are shocked he has a canon wife. At least among Fire Emblem games she's pretty well known today.
>It stuff like that that makes me wish the Archanean games would get something of a big reimagining over another shot-for-shot remake. It would be interesting if they kept the two book structure but actually had them be truly connected. Like if Abel dies he isn't around during book 2. Obviously, there would be some exceptions, like Hardin. But it could work.
>and Shadow Dragon is just too bad a product to recommend peopleI tend to view both it and Mystery(The original) as pretty decent places to start. Not as good as FE7 or 8, but good enough. Otherwise, do agree.
>>715222171Shadow Dragon is pretty baffling and mostly carried by the thing that sunk Echoes, the map design.
>>715240858>>715241072I never heard or saw such a thing in either chapter. I know there's wyverns in 21, but they only move for you and the lone village's only threat is a pack of Thieves from the cave across the hills.
>>715248428wyvern reinforcements come from the middle fort if you don't block it
>>715214404>Alear being trans is part of the plot>transdragonI'm fascinated by the mental gymnastics and stretching of vocabulary that was necessary to make this post happen.
>Nobody in 3H is transThe tacit admission that not even Three Housesfags played or remembered Three Hopes.
>>715249375is this why troons love 3hrt?
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>>715215704>Rosado is transholy fuck, those were some retarded hours, huh.
>>715234696it's pretty sad how lazy IS got with CYL after like.. 2. they just started using promoted class versions of characters with Micaiah and never looked back. I'm still mad, i wanted Micaiah dressed as Sanaki.
edelgard and dimitri story is literally trans allegory
>>715250484>Marianne wins a CYL>put her in the dancer costume but have the guy who drew Noire ugly in her swimsuit and ruined her to ruin Marianne too>adult Tiki wins CYL>IS puts her in her younger self's clothes and spams young Tiki alts out of spite>both Robins win CYL>they don't give either of them a Levin sword and put them in the ugliest possible Vegas stage magician costume to boot>then give Felix the Levin Sword and make him one of the singular units who ruins the game for everyone, and gove him an ugly artist>Alfonse wins CYL>just have him copy Gustav right down to the costume and posesAnd now we're going into the worst CYL next month, and I can't wait to see how that one's going to fly with Flopyrnir leading the pack.
Sharena's the only winner I actually care about but you cannot convince me IS didn't bot those votes in out of spite.
>>715251349>he is unawareMarianne was drawn by the director of 3H who was also an AD for previous games in the series. She wasn't "mistreated", as many CYL winners were drawn by artists and ADs within the series. See FE6/7 where the actual ingame artist hasnt drawn anyone in Heroes.
>>715253673Does it matter? She's going to struggle for kills regardless.
>>715253650Leaving a child with their parent is still mistreatment if their parent is neglectful or abusive. it doesn't matter who did the art, if the art is fucking terrible. that artist shouldn't be allowed to draw faces.
>>715214404>LimstellaIsnt Limstella a Morph? like xir is smooth down there
I love slow comfy threads.
>>715255565It's slow because /vg/ regulars have come in causing posters to leave.
I use cheat codes when I play normally
Anyone else?
>>715235169โShe deserves itโ sounds like code word for โShe beat my girlโ.
>>715256723Micaiah and Camilla winning was the funniest outcome, redditors rallied so hard to try and beat Camilla they cucked Anna out of ever winning a CYL.
>>715257163Or rallying for Marianne so hard, she accidentally won when they were just trying to beat frog.
>>715238794FE4 is based and blackpilled, confirming genetics are the only thing that matter
>>715256723>โShe deserves itโ sounds like code word for โShe beat my girlโ.No, he/she deserves it was literally the rallying cry they used for years.
>>715254995Cope. Marianne wasn't mistreated.
>>715257789maybe, but that definitely had nothing to do with Micaiah. her rallying cry was "STOP CAMILLA".
reclass Sylveon to malig for trample reclass xander to bow knight for shurikenbreaker but -5 defense sucks.
>>715253650Cool, then they shouldโve got Chinatsu instead of K*sakihara.
>>715258323>K*sakiharamore like Kusokihara.
>>715258223it's what i named corrin.
>>715258823in my opinion it's never too late to train a unit. felicia is level 13 and nearly equal to a non promote here. but i also want her to get with leo mostly.
>>715258823female corrin is cute, but i can't stand getting that chump Jakob instead of the cutie Felicia.
>>715259071dancing while i squeeze every bit of xp from this guy over the wall. he keeps retreating to heal on the fort.
>>715258323>>715258425>They haven't seen Legendary Dimitri's artMarianne fans really wanted their girl to be mocked even more.
>>715251349I'm honestly kinda excited for Baldr, Sharena, and Manleth.
Unlike most banners this year, this one has a chance of getting orbs out of me. Just a spark, but still over 100.
>>715259869It would still suck and yet it would still be better than that hack Kusakihara.
>>715259202Cute fish obsessed sister-daughter
Why are dragons so weird when it comes to their family ties?
>>715261248Probably because they're immortal and there's typically very few of them by the time of the game's plot
>>715259381took like 90 turns of nonsense to get felicia to level 16 but she's beginning to look like a unit i could use. anyways back to units i can actually use xander will solo most of this chapter.
>>715240858>>715241072it is real
presumably it's an AI bug that comes from the enemy reinforcements coming from those forts in the previous turn being thieves, and the devs just forgetting to adjust their AI behavior on the subsequent turns
https://forums.serenesforest.net/topic/90790-village-in-heroes-of-light-and-shadow-destroyed-by-horseman/
the wyvern in chapter 21 I'm pretty sure is intentional though and just a way to pressure you to reach the Michalis village quickly
>>715242072swordmaster is a perfectly fine endgame class
it is worse than horseman if you purely look at caps in base stat and weapon ranks, but it is only a little worse and swordmaster takes far less effort in order to reach important stat thresholds because it has better base stats, which often matters more than just having one more move or bow access
you will be running multiple of either anyway, so there is nothing wrong in having one more, but yeah, Est doesn't exactly become notably better than the other units you've trained up so far in this game
>>715261248Longer lives = more chances for shenanigans.
the divine dragon's stewards...
>>715261548why did he go for felicia over xander? even before the counter giving debufs which likely put his damage at 0 the hit rate is nonexistant because of tomebreaker. conquest AI was improved only slightly from the GBA games.
>>715223326Romhack fags didn't understand that FE4 secret events were meant to be cool easter eggs that in no way impacted your actual ability to beat the game. The brave axe brings Lex from subpar to good, but in reality you are not relying on Lex to clear objectives in gen 1 that couldn't already be handled by Sigurd, Lachesis, or Lewyn. Mangs decided to balance his games' difficulty under the pretense that you're joining his fagcord to know about all of these.
>>715262097this reinforcement group does not retreat for healing. they simply rush for your units (get walled by xander on their first turn)
>>715262097Conquest enemy AI likes to avoid suicide attacks if it doesn't think it can kill you anyways and has alternative attack options that won't result in dying on the counter.
>>715182793 (OP)thats because they are cute.
>>715262498>1 mag in 6 levelsyou guys told me she was a nuke with a flame shuriken.
>>715259157>Hating on one of the better Fates characters
>>715262592okay she's starting to look better. she's still so squishy that anything other than a tome or magic weapon will one shot her without additional setup (rally elise personal etc)
>>715262058should have sex with each other
FE needs more black girls
>>715263530>is obsessed with meatwhat did IS mean by this?
>>715263026hopefully this works. i half have a feeling that all the enemies will aggro but they will just ignore xander and rush the rest of my units which is why camilla is there i think she's the thickest that isn't xander or percy who cannot be there for being up here/giving rally defense.
>>715263739>retard heaven activates twicefuck this game.
>>715263824Uhh... Xander bros? He can't even beat Hana after 3 reclasses... this is your god?
>>715263649I'm obsessed with her dark meat so it all balances out
Iโll take another KT made Fire Emblem on one condition. They give us Fire Emblem Jack Garland.
>>715263824>letting him get doubled in the first placeyou played yourself
A lot of people want Komuro fired but not enough people ask for Kusakihara to get fired IMO. Everything he's touched in this franchise has turned to dogshit.
>>715265643He "directed" the Fodlan games, so I'd be willing to give him another shot. We don't know how much he did, or if it was all Koei.
Komuro has never done anything good. The "best" thing she did was Awakening, when she was just an assistant writer. So the best compliment you can give her is "the less she's there, the better the game is." And if that's the case, I'd rather her not be there 100% of the time!
Where's that interview where the Awakening devs admitted to dumbing down Awakening because Komuro found it too difficult, and then dumbing it down even more because it was still too difficult for her? Anyone else remember reading that?
>>715265940Sure Komuro is still public enemy #1 but that just means everyone looks over Kusakihara's crimes because they're not as egregious. But I can't forgive this fag ruining Kozaki's designs with his dogshit armor designs in Awakening, I don't play Heroes but apparently everyone hates his art there too, he also drew some of the shittier looking CGs in 3H too like the retarded looking Edelgard one. And then he's the one that refused to change anything about Echoes' flawed game design, introduced Combat Art slop to the series, and his contributions to the good parts of 3H are questionable as you said, a lot of it is likely to be from Koei not him.
>>715242129>>715243643Cute.
Zelestia like this if possible please!
>>715266814>I don't play Heroes but apparently everyone hates his art there too, he also drew some of the shittier looking CGs in 3H too like the retarded looking Edelgard one.Sure, but Kozaki is also in Heroes, and the only good designs he did were Eir, Life, Thrasir, and nuVeronica. He fell off pretty bad.
Kusakihara's only "good" art in FEH is Rinkah, but everything about your criticisms just says to keep him away from a drawing tablet, not to get rid of him entirely.
I'd give him another shot, just not as an artist.
>>715265940>He "directed" the Fodlan gamesyeah, which is why he should be fired
>>715266814He didn't ruin "Kozaki's" designs, really. Kozaki was always simply the character designer for Awakening. Kusakihara did what concept artists always do - he handled a different set of subjects, the class design in his case. The same thing happened with Fates. Kozaki didn't design the generic armor in that game, which is why the Nohrian Fates royals look like they're wearing retarded crab armor, meanwhile the Mercenary class is equipped with a functional gambeson and buckler.
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>>715267419>He didn't ruin "Kozaki's" designs, reallyI would consider it ruined when he takes a cute short red haired tomboy Kozaki drew and puts her in a toilet bowl
>>715263530I-I hate w-woke!
But Fire Emblem brown women make me so hard!
>>715267636He also did Lon'qu's drippy outfit, so. I'm not praising Kusokihara, I'm just saying from the beginning it was a collaborative effort to design the characters' final look. Sully was doomed to latrineship from the beginning.
>probably the best character in Heroes
>probably the best overall design, too
>IS hates her
Sucks.
>>715263952forgot kitchen and tonics and just popped the master seal on benny we're rushing back there with more defense this time even two activations shouldn't kill us.
>>715182793 (OP)I really regret getting involved with the FE community. So much infighting makes it hard to enjoy the games anymore but now I'm fucking addicted to forums and threads.
>>715268684also going to try and hit an enfeble on the turn before i go in.
>>715269693come on xander hit some fucking swordmasters
(he missed)
>>715270096the cheating double activation bitch is no more.
>>715270249I appreciate you playing and posting, anon
>>715270249>>715270670thank you so much. just killing this paired mechanist so i can clear as much as i can before the reinforcements come. don't know if i want to try fighting them or just blitz the boss and finish the chapter. felicia has already gone from level 13 to 23 on this chapter alone but she could powerlevel even higher if i can find a way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BTEWZlQh1s
>>715270859>21 speed/12 resThe reinforcements would fucking violate that Xander unless you have another way of dealing with them
>>715270271Dont dis Mia like that.
Hana is nowhere near as fun to hang around with.
>>715270271literally no one has ever held this opinion
>>715270859i think you can block some of the reinforcements with units on the forts so I'm going to try and do that.
>>715272636no reinforcements for at least the first turn yet. I'm going to keep them in position here for another turn because i know that they come for two turns.
>>715273031You got baited by the devs bro. Chloe is actually a magic unit in the wrong class.
How much do you love your FE waifu?
>>715272780this is quite a pickle
>>715274000i think I'm retarded.
>>715274082I warned you bro
>>715273948>FE WaifuYou're only supposed to have one across all media, bro
>>715274528no just a blogposter
>>715230456in hard mode, if you are unlucky she can die the same turn she appears
>>715273948I did something similar, I made a hack to give my waifu a happy ending
>>715230456>she starts with a steel axe iircYep and it weighs her down by 6 which further tanks her avoid against the ambush axe fighters. Really shitty recruitment.
>>715263530>wanted to commission this artist to do more Ivy and Alear>she refused because she only wants Ivy with DiamantAlearbros...
>>715273948>shadowofchaos is still aroundIs he still a massive cringelord?
>>715267115Kozaki's Heroes art can be very hit or miss. You can tell when he blatantly phones in a character. Otr, Heithrun, and Brave Lucina are pretty big examples of when he really doesn't try or too busy to check his work.
Most of Kozaki's designs in FEH are good.
>>715276490I'd use even just the Askr Trio. Go compare Alfonse's fucking chubby face to something like Chrom or Lucina in Awakening.
The Heroes characters just look kinda stout in comparison. Like they're in a smaller scale, like 6 heads instead of 7.
>>715277460Ekao showed up for one day and objectively improved Ash's design.
Imagine if the OG version of Eir was drawn by HACCAN.
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>>715277460He still drew this abomination.
>>715277802Do women really like this shit? Or is it all fags?
>>715270271>Mia>:lDon't people love her though?
>>715277896>only gay people like uber macho gym ratsAnon, you don't need even less reasons to work out.
>>715277896total faggotry
>>715277802I still think Nidhoggr is even worse. If her hair was blonde, she'd be a bit better. But no matter how you slice it, she looks retarded.
It's like IS told Kozaki to "make a second Gullveig" and just flubbed it.
Kozaki has never outdone Camilla. He peaked a decade ago
>>715278781I would say that maybe Eir, Lif, and Veronica are on-par, but for different reasons.
>>715279276>hire sencha for a sexo summer unit>but it's a character nobody cared aboutWasted.
>>715279276Bro that's just Pekora.
>>715277585This design is good, that doesn't make Ash's OG design bad.
>>715277802And since I'm comfortably with my sexuality I'm willing to say that I genuinely don't see the issue with it. Like there are FAAAAAR worse designs in FEH, like Yoshiku's designs past Book 4.
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I command the commitment to recreate the FE4 experience
>>715280305>This design is good, that doesn't make Ash's OG design bad.OG Ash has a fridge body because her shoulders and hips are almost completely in line with her waist. The tabbard is too long, and it being one on one side is dumb because her hair isn't long enough to balance it out.
She looks like a guy. Which is ironic because the other one is acting more masculine, but looks more feminine!
>>715280743>she looks like a guy>with massive titsanon get your vision checked
>>715280521if it really was the genealogy experience they'd give you the forsetti tome and lewyn/ced to wipe all of those scrubs.
>>715280743>>715281178I agree with the oddly broad shoulders complaint (even for a cowgirl), but yeah, I think that anon is just gay. Out of all of Kozaki's designs, Ash is fine. I just find it too basic with how much white she has, so Melial is more pleasing to my eyes.
>>715273948silver sword is my fire emblem waifu
>>715281178You don't need massive tits to still look like a woman.
Think of it this way: If I removed those tits but kept the design the same, would she look like a woman, or would she look like Alfonse?
Even in the same book, there were MULTIPLE (three) nearly-flat women that looked more like women than Ash did.
>>715280305NTA but the issue I have is the damaged art will rip off a guys metal armor to show his rippling abs and hairy ballsack but girls damaged art has trouble ripping through fabric and showing ankle is now scandalous
>>715280743>Ash's OG design is bad because I can't jack off to her
>>715281980The problem isn't jacking off. The problem is her anatomy is just man-ish. There are several other FEH OCs that I wouldn't jerk to but still acknowledge are feminine.
Embla
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You people are weak, I'd fuck the shit out of Embla so genuinely whether or not a character has shoulders too broad means nothing to me.
>>715282210Despite being a skeleton, Embla still actually looks like a woman.
Also had one of the best Bridal designs.
>>715282124>I can't coom so it's bad(Lol
>>715282441Literally one post above yours is me acknowledging a female design that looks good, despite me not jerking it to her.
You lost.
>>715280305Not sure why you would assume I'm not comfortable with my sexuality, I just think the design looks like hot garbage.
I love my wife, Annette.
>>715273948With every fiber of my being.
>>715274221This too.
>>715282950Eh, yuri is boring without a dick. I would rather get my pussy stretched around a fat dick than rub it against another pussy
>>715283484what did you think I meant?
>>715270271Mia can dodge sometimes
>>715277926she's hilariously bad in PoR and gets moged by zihark
>>715234835Stupid Christmas titty gremlin, you made me horny!
>>715285805She killed a man for those btw
>>715285760oh no somebody call the somneil police
>>715273948I will always love her.
Hopefully the based ephraim dev lifts his middle finger at shitranne.
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Fire Emblem fans love censorship
>>715273948Till death do us part.
Ivy
>>715273948She's my favorite fictional character
>>715287208she loves sucking cock
https://youtu.be/1q9i5KeiYmg
https://youtu.be/fwpLl_fXEO8
>among the best battle tracks
>need to have animations on and pause to ever hear it fully
I don't remember if it was 3H or engage that changed the map theme to the boss theme when engaged but it gets a big point
>>715253673lex. cheese the arena with sleep sword and promote quickly without wasting money buying the paragon ring
holyn is also very good at clearing the arena, because she will be able to use your high-crit brave sword and she gets the luna skill. but she won't have as much money unless she gets the bargain ring
dew is doable if you fed 100 kills to a slim sword. you can buy some extra rings to help clear the arena, use the miracle sword sometimes, etc.
>>715273948I have a folder full of art and have never foddered a single copy of my wife.
>>715287208Kent fucked her before you.
what are these retard ass names dude
>>715253673Dew because they are spiritually the same.
>>715287698ishtar and her brother ishtore are in gen 2
>>715287148They love homosexuality and barashit too.
Nyx
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>>715210332Nyx must be your favorite, then.
>>715287375>>715287621>post wife>everyone calls her a whoreYou guys are nothing if not predictable.
N-never change, /vfeg/
>>715288380leif... don't you have a rebellion to be heading?
>>715288060No, but I do wish we got an adult version of her.
Also sad that you have to manually add veils to characters like Plegian Dorothea.
Dimitri should be inside me
>>715285669>this is official artI don't play Heroes so this is new to me. Holy growth spurt...
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>>715289814Engage has actively gotten tons of... buffs for the girls in Heroes.
They stole them from Femleth, who is chained up in the basement of the Somniel.
>>715289932wew
Alear was already big but yes, that looks like a noticeable buff
I still probably won't play Heroes but now I definitely need to look up more of the artwork.
>>715290093>Alear was already big but yes, that looks like a noticeable buffNo, actually. People even modded the outfit in, and her default proportions look like this.
I think her Legendary version is even bigger, and has giant thunderthighs.
Say happy birthday to the best TMS girl
>>715289932>ruining the itty bitty titty commity
>>715290354It's Maiko's birthday?
>>715290383She was never itty bitty. But she was never THAT big.
>>715290764It's been 10 years since TMS so Kiria would be 31 now, certified hag the same as her but with much better looks
>>715290907KOWASHITAI
https://youtu.be/iON8LyXYmBc
https://youtu.be/BFO0E0g6Sqo
https://youtu.be/q8vGH9zhVcU
https://youtu.be/Jb3KC9NxU_4
She's cool, cute, sexy, beautiful all in one
Gross
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I hope the next fe game has no stinky girls
>>715291076>she was never THAT big.bwo
did the taco get bullied off /feg/ or something
>>715291912idk but he's been unusually obnoxious lately so I hope you guys bully him back.
I see the schizo woke up. He's even started spamming the catalog with his usual shit OPs
>>715286118>>715290275
>>715292237Thankfully people are ignoring him here, although this thread will be over soon
>>715292173all namefags and ritualfags deserve to be genocided desu
>>715291912Kinda. He spent years saying that "true fans +10 their favorites!" in order to put down the surge of Gullveigfags who rolled for her.
It was then pointed out that he had not +10'd one of the Tharja's despite her being out for over 5 years, as well as taking years to +10 SNoire.
But recently, both of them just got another alt, and he didn't roll for either of them at all.
So all of his own goalposts keep being dropped, while the gullveigfags keep saving orbs to spend on her next year.
>>715293482Cannot wait for this shit to EOS
>>715293108I +10'd my Tharja cause I liked the fairy art, could I be the new Tharjafag? She's not like my waifu or anything, but she never was Raul's either, so I guess I don't need to do that to be elected the next Tharjafag either.
>>715293108I'm so glad I have more of a life than a shitty gacha
>>715293803>official art womb tattoo tharja
>>715293803Get a trip, a lobotomy and as many shitty pictures of your waifu as possible and you'll be him.
If I made a legitimate thread, would you go to it?
You didn't do shit against the nowitroon who kicked your from your dogshit general fag.
>>715294094It would be extremely painful
>>715293951I'd call it more of a torso-tat or emblem, but hey, whatever floats your boar, man.
I like to pretend sometimes the Resplendent alts of chars involved them actually consuming the nectar to become alfar and dokkalfar. I realize this is autistic.
>>715294117What can we do against someone who has the jannies and mods on their side?
>Heroes crap
Meh, let me know if they ever make a Fallen Marianne alt.
>>715294889What, like falling off a cliff?
Dimitri penis thread please
>>715295418Best I can do is Claude penis, sorry.
>>715295528But my Dimi has a better dick
>another Engage thread
no thanks
>>715295797This. I like Engage but stop using it in OPs, it just attracts retards who wanna gamewar.
>>715296003Agreed. As someone who loves Engage an Engage thread is just to bring gamewar spergs together.
>>715293108Lmao you're so desperate for my attention
>>715294889IS are too stupid for that. The last two Fallen banners were 50% Engage, and now they keep doing Medeus's priestesses, too.