Thread 715199510

what went wrong? wasnt this supposed to be a Smash killer?

>>715199510 (OP)
they promised too much, and smash like games are over saturated

>>715199632
>smash like games are over saturated
they're not though

>>715199510 (OP)
did you play it? mechanically it was pretty shit

there haven't really been any good smash clones yet mechanically, that's the big issue

>publisher incompetence
>developer incompetence
>insane corporate greed
>looked like shit
>played like shit
>entirely carried by marketing and hype
>was never actually good at any point in its development
Pick all of the above

>>715199510 (OP)
it's not a good game and the rollout was somehow even worse. The biggest problem with most smash clones in general is that they are not good games. Some mechanic/balance grievances aside Smash is a fairly high quality series even when they intentionally shoot it in the foot

>>715199810
>there haven't really been any good smash clones yet mechanically
Rivals 2 is fun

>>715199510 (OP)
Because they absolutely refused to make characters free to play while focusing on skins to make their money back paired with making the singleplayer content almost impossible to actually complete if you weren't a day 1 player without spending upwards of $60 for all the event skins just to clear a few levels. It's nothing more than that. They also refused to make unlocking characters fast, easy, or targeted. It's absolutely insane that they overhauled the system and it made it take even longer to unlock characters.

One of the biggest issues I'm sure that killed the game completely was when Raven came out. That was their "Final Fantasy VII Remake" button. It got the game back up to beta levels of user activity. You couldn't even play Raven without spending $20 or unlocking like 15 other characters before her.

>>715200938
I preferred slap city to this

>>715200091
>season 5
it got that many seasons? lmao

>>715199510 (OP)
>Felt bad to play more often than not
>PvE mode tried to do what Smash's SP modes did and failed
>Insane grinds to unlock characters, the attempted solution to which made things worse because the devs refused to just make everyone free
>Cosmetics that could do as little as give a character a painted-on shirt and either cost money or were behind more grinds
>Poor prioritizing of what characters to add and when, so the game got characters like Shaggy and Velma before Scooby, and Nubia before a DC character that anyone gives a crap about

>>715199510 (OP)
Taking the game offline for a year only to release it in a worse state than it was in the beta

>>715200091
It was fun in "beta" it had momentum but the team couldn't deliver and shut down for a year wits promise of mega updates that never happened

>>715199510 (OP)
The writing was on the wall when they were already adding characters like LeBron (to promote Space Jam 2) and Black "The Rock" Adam (to promote his shitty movie) so early on in the game's life cycle when there were still so many notable omissions. We never even got Daffy Duck

>>715205134
The most frustrating part was that Daffy Duck literally had a nearly completed moveset in the files which was found as soon as they came out of the hiatus. Even though the Wicked Witch of the West was mentioned as far back as the beta as being a playable character there weren't even any moveset animations until the final season patch which shows she was likely going to be promoting Wicked but then that fell through or something.

>>715200091
All the footage I've seen of this game really showcases how shitty and choppy all the animations look. And those horrid colored outlines drag the aesthetic down even more

>>715199510 (OP)
It was a platform fighter made by people who have clearly never made a platform fighter before (or any fighting game for that matter). They were just horribly out of their depth and didn't know how to make a fighting game

>>715199510 (OP)
fighting games in general are a pretty small niche

>>715199632
>smash like games are over saturated
Name 20

Effectively this became "They changed it, now it sucks." The Video Game.

Most Smash clones seem to sleep on what makes Smash so great and instead just see it as an vehicle for advertisement.

None of these companies want to actually copy smash 1:1 which is why people just keep playing smash itself even if its Project M or whatever.