What is the best final boss in gaming history?
>>715213829 (OP)>malenia>final boss
Ozma in the true ending of Khazan mogs every boss right now.
>>715213829 (OP)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEBYjnMNbM4
>>715213829 (OP)Odio
>>715213986>endfetuses actually believe this
>>715213829 (OP)chaos legions last guantlet of bosses is dope
>>715213986Warrior of Light was better.
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>>715213986Its EX fight was dogshit so it loses off that
Its the whole sequence of the Ganondorf and castle collapsing and Ganon fight in OOT.
Nobody can deny this.
https://youtu.be/ItlEThiADuc
>bossfight is an evolution of the gameplay you've been learning since the start
>all 3 phases provide a unique experience
>has a gimmick to set it apart from every other bossfight, but not one that overrides the base gameplay
>visually outstanding with a great boss theme
>final boss doesn't ruin the moment with an evil villain monologue
>perfect thematic ending in regards to the lore
I think most games would be lucky to have a boss remotely as good as Annihilation.
>>715213829 (OP)I'll just list ones that I personally liked
>Snake vs Boss (MGS3)>Jehuty vs Anubis (ZOE2)>Sora and Riki putting their past bullshit aside to beat the fuck out of Xemnas (KH2)>Kite vs Skeith (.hack//infection)Those are what stick out. It's crazy because there are some games I absolutely loved way more but which dropped the ball on final boss fights.
>>715213986hades did it better and he wasn't cucked in his EX
>>715213909with how many people bitched about her and how you had to do a few quests to find her zone? yes she was the real boss
>>715214524who the fuck is ligma
Breath of Fire V immediately comes to mind.
Looking it up will absolutely ruin it though.
Mechanically it has to be Sword Saint Isshin, literally a culmination of everything learned in the game.
Narratively? probably Ocelot Vs. Snake in MGS4
>>715214832ligaments should be stretched daily.
Solid Snake vs Liquid Ocelot
>>715213896No FF boss qualifies, sorry.
>>715214718this was a really fun fight, I tanked everything with medic/summoner
the phase switching mid-attack was pure kino
>>715214762it was sad how similar the fights ended up being mechanically
>>715215014Isshin isn't even the best fight in his own game, True Monk is better strictly mechanically speaking.
>>715213909It's engagement bait so retarded people who think they are the smartest in the room can respond exactly how you just did
>>715214718>>715215057Is it actually a good game or what? Thought this game was a shitty Souls clone with guns meme
not even that old of a fag but damn did this hit different
>tonight, gehrman joins the hunt
KINLUDO
>>715213829 (OP)He was pretty easy but the final boss of Transistor is kino
>>715213829 (OP)I fucking love Grigori and Daimon.
>>715214718that shit gave one of my friends a seizure the firsf time he fought it
'He is the king, absolute evil, and the most terrifying creature in existence'
>>715214348Unfortunately he was too easy, but i admit he was cool and memorable.
>>715215306every command sent to a video game is a qte
>>715213829 (OP)Half joking but in terms of how cathartic it feels to win, sans is honestly kind of up there. Especially nowadays. I want to do another genocide run just to kill the piece of shit again.
Then again that was about 10 years ago, not sure if he's all that hard if i played it now.
>>715214348his phase2 really scared me as a 7 year old...
>>715215329Ok but what version of Dracula? PoR and OoE are my favorites alongside the OG.
>>715215395the tranny discord is down the hall and to the left
>>715215165It doesn't play anything like souls stuff, it is a third person shooter based around bossfights + light randomisation of areas and item drops. Very good game. There's a large amount of ways to build your character and a lot of different ways to build individual archetypes too like melee tank, energy shield tank, healing tank, tank that uses summons to do it, etc.
>>715215329This, but him and his buddy Desu in Richter mode in PoR
Absolutely ball busting
>>715213909That's like saying allant isn't the final boss of des
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>>715215471Trannies like video games. Wont stop me from liking video games.
>>715215165it's a great game, I thought it was rollslop too
it's got actual puzzles, and not the shitty ones where you put the star key in the star door
playing on launch was amazing because there were like 4 worlds and 2 "adventures" per world and YOUR STARTING WORLD/ADVENTURE WAS RANDOM
you're progressing through ancient ruins in a jungle, then you join another guy's game and he's in fucking yarnham
>>715215395Indieniggers are delulu
>>715215642I don't like Undertale but I do think the Sans Fight is cool
>>715214912>mfw the bar goes above 100%>mfw it keeps going
>>715215642What a humble young fellow, believing that the only reason for someone to dislike his game is out of principle, how admirable
>>715213829 (OP)Transformers FOC had a pretty awesome finale that ends with you kicking the shit out of Megatron in a proper 1v1. In the Cybertron games Megatron absolutely punts the Autobots so getting so getting to spank him in the end is pretty satisfying
>>715215078That's not the final boss
>>715215642>here's a screenshot from a mentally ill twitter userthanks, im not going to read it
>>715214234>>715214373>>715214480>>715214762I played the closed beta, also I dont care about raidtranny grading, its a penultimate boss fight that's a universe ending threat so she wins.
>>715215747IF I GO DOWN IM TAKING YOU WITH ME
What if the final boss was the final dungeon as well?
>>715215468almost all of them are kino in some way
>>715215078>>715216024this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgYBK3I2fIg
>>715215237As an actual fight it's pretty lacking, but there's a lot going on around it.
>>715216118OP said "best", not "biggest stakes"
>>715216118>she's a threat in the narrative so that makes it the best boss fight ever
>>715215014>Narratively? probably Ocelot Vs. Snake in MGS4Hell yeah. Old man slugfest was hype as fuck when it happened.
>>715213829 (OP)Why did they put the Sephiroth fight that's literally a cutscene?
>>715213986I agree but just for the presentation alone in the last section of the game
the fight is basically a showcase of your journey, and the dungeon before it is just amazing lorewise and it has the best dungeon music in the game.
I would also include the zenos duty as the "final boss" sequence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnKQLNVfH44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shPnc9O3CVU
>>715215329>jobs to water
>>715216426>and the dungeon before it is just amazing lorewiseIt's a random collection of aliens you've never seen before with no bearing on anything you've ever experienced in your journey
The Boss. You need visuals, music, good fight, story all together and no one does it better MGS3
>>715215570Malenia is optional and "hidden", Allant is mandatory.
Saying Malenia is the last boss is like saying some RPG super boss is the last boss.
Music Required:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbO3p7_Mf30
>>715214348>>715214657Holy fuck you tendies are embarrassing. You have zero awareness.
>>715215271Grigori is a little easy, more of a set piece really, but yes it was an incredible climax. I think your beloved after the fight says something like "I could not help but be jealous of the bond you shared", and that really stuck with me. Such a cool antagonist he was.
Making the mother of all omelettes here, Jack.
>>715216675Anon I am 100% sure the Mario Land 2 guy was being ironic
>>715215271That specific shot of Grigori is burnt into my mind
I'm glad they went with an alternate route in DD2
>>715216502>with no bearing on anything you've ever experienced in your journeyi mean its literally just what ifs in the story you've experienced
>the grebuloff world = what if the aether in the land is depleted and contaminated, kinda like the FF7 plot or the bs Gaius says in every praetorium run>the global fighter world = what if garlemald conquered the world>the nibirun world = what if hydaelyn didnt exist and ancients were never sundered
>>715213829 (OP)From those, Sword Saint, without a doubt.
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I'll let my 10yo self speak on this matter
https://youtu.be/BFlLKSHpDao?feature=shared
>>715216827not a final boss, fake boomer. The final boss is technically the guitar duel with Lou.
gwyn
grigori
vergil
red
liquid ocelet
>>715216834Thematic relevance is fine for a leveling dungeon, not for the culmination of a 10 year long journey.
>>715216357>>715216382I dont care about raidtranny opinions so stop replying to me, you aren't even human beings. You're constructs that exist to suck up resources and waste time raidtrannys
>>715215186>>715216746Literally came to this thread just to call you a faggot
>>715213829 (OP)>So, have you found a reason to fight yet? Buddy.
>>715215570I to this day have never fought Melania and beat the game. It's not necessary
Mike Tyson or go the FUCK home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAPgPH9hsI
>>715216947You couldn't even describe why she's a good boss aside from her having a high power level in the lore. You're literally less than a cutscenefag, you simultaneously disregard gameplay AND you're too mentally stunted to even begin explaining why the fight narratively moved you. Sit down and be quiet, golem.
>>715215862You're just mad because he's right. /v/ loved this game before it got popular.
>>715217096Stop replying raid transgender abomination, nobody is interested in you whining about how stormblood was the peak
>>715213829 (OP)All things taken into account, it has to be this way
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the greatest cutscene spectacle final boss
>>715216827Speaking of Fagonforce and last bosses
>>715216834Do not bother responding to raid 41%ers all they care about is playing DDR with 12345 on the keyboard
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>>715216931I mean a dungeon where you revisit old memories and friends? You already went through all that in the Aitiascope
but thematically in the story it would make sense if you met all your friends just before the final boss, but I liked how they did the EW ending way more with you meeting the ghosts of the people that impacted the story the most
>>715213829 (OP)I generally don't like final bosses. My vote has to be Armstrong for how fucking cool and out of left field the entire fight is
>>715216567>guaranteed winOne of the worst fights in that game sadly.
>>715213829 (OP)>What is the best final boss in gaming history?
>>715217215Oh, you're the Venat spammer, that explains it. You haven't even played the game, you only know twitter art.
>>715213829 (OP)Mecha Hitler
>but he's only the boss of the 3rd episodeOriginal release was 3 episodes, Nocturnal Missions were prequels released later.
>>715217362The sorrow of a thousand thousand worlds weighs heavy. Yet you can walk on.
>>715215656>it's a great game, I thought it was rollslop too>it's got actual puzzles, and not the shitty ones where you put the star key in the star doorInteresting...hopefully by "actual" puzzles you dont mean sudoku.
But ill do some more research and check it out. Have been looking for more and more games that arent just generic straight action, and try to have an identity of their own beyond just killing things.
>>715216818People hated Grigori in 2 because it was so "forced" as they say, but I thought it was just as cool specifically because of that. He's literally a sentient NPC being forcibly summoned with admin commands to play out a scenario he knows is stupid.
>>715213829 (OP)Unknown god in EDF 5
>>715214348The Organ. The Tennis. The Escape. The Final Beast Mode. It's all PEAK vidya.
Wind Waker's finale beats it.
>>715214348>playing tennis>best final bossno
>>715216043Bait or retard. Call it.
>>715217463A victory lap can be a great final boss.
>>715215078kingdom hearts is so fucking gay
>>715215974You know a final mission is going to be great when it starts with Soundwave boarding the Ark by riding a giant harpoon and only gets better from that point onwards
>>715215078kingdom hearts is so fucking based
>>715217609lol
Thanks for playing.
>>715216658fucking assholes who made this scared me away from the ocean forever and i couldn't even go to the beach as a kid
>>715216916Wrong there Mr. Niggs. It's the last song you play in career mode, technically (to use your own word). It's as much of a boss as the Cloud vs Sephiroth and Snake vs Liquid Ocelot fights. It's also the final and most difficult mechanical challenge in the game.
It is easier than Jordan in GH2 though.
>>715215306and it's kino.
FFX has the best final boss because it's a fucking intergalactic tick lmao
>>715213829 (OP)I feel like a final boss should be equal parts spectacle and difficulty, and usually most final bosses end up being one or the other.
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>>715213829 (OP)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67eLpLhxEPg
pure LUDOKINO
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Chaos.
>>715216551>>715217059The coolest boss is always the real final boss
>>715213909those accounts are run by indians, he never played any of those games
>>715217812of the bosses present in the OP, Isshin definitely nails both parts
>>715213829 (OP)This mother fucker right here
Yes, I know he's not technically the final boss, shut up.
>>715217550Grigori wasn't really in 2, it was just The Dragon.
I personally loved the entire ending sequence of DD2. World Unmoored, the dark dragons around the land, the Brine taking over with every rest as villages seek refuge..
DD2 doesn't really have a final boss but that's for the better I think
not all final bosses but enough on here
>Final Boss is literally (You)
>>715217745Yeah but you can't even lose, it's pretty much just a credits sequence you can play along to. When people talk about the final boss in FF7, they're talking about Safer Sephiroth, not the unloseable encounter afterwards.
This was unbelievably kino for a Kirby game.
>>715213829 (OP)quite fond of master hand
Iโve never fully completed a video game
>>715218323>Frogboster posting low effort baitI havent seen a quality frog post in actual years
My wife Major Song
Alternatively the entire viecotry lap of Mago City
>>715213829 (OP)Genuinely the hardest, most adrenaline rushing, and most epic final boss I've ever seen. DMC, FF, KH, Ninja Gaiden, Bayonetta, and all Fromsoft games don't even come close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imEQBxnoALc
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>final boss is built up entire game
>when you finally get to him the twist is he's a shell of his former self and almost a pushover, >this has a vast meaning for the entire game's lore
>ties into the game's entire message around the greed of man
you may not like it but this is the correct answer.
>>715216978Oh Him? Yeahโฆ.i know him
>>715215271>>715215579I've always believed that Daimon's appearance is because him rejecting the choice as Arisen was heresy, and as punishment The Cycle transformed him into a malformation of the dragon he was supposed to become
>>715213896Based and true
>>715217970There's no reason to assume that Grigori is that dragon's name specifically. I mean, how would Elysion even know his true name to begin with? Also DD1 doesn't have a final battle either, just a gameplay segment that amounts to a cutscene with the seneschal.
The Ultima gauntlet at the end of XVI is the coolest boss fights ever, shame they aren't harder fights.
>>715218394Iโm serious. I mostly play online multiplayer. Iโve never made it through the single player campaign of any game.
>>715218792>Frog poster is unplayerKinda proving my "all frog posters are low quality posters" theory
>>715218207>When people talk about the final boss in FF7, they're talking about Safer Sephiroth, not the unloseable encounter afterwards.It's literally in the OP image my dude.
>>715218921The OP also sucks ass
Eigong in Nine Sols. True ending version, obviously
The Arcana is the means by which all is revealed
>>715213829 (OP)Better question, what boss has the best line he screams out near the end of the fight as he launches his final last ditch attack
Hard mode: not emet selch
https://youtu.be/V1GhOzlGXQk?list=RDV1GhOzlGXQk
https://youtu.be/USwjWuD0YBg?list=RDUSwjWuD0YBg
which game has a final boss that in (You)?
nier?
>>715213829 (OP)I have no idea about of all time but my vote as far as recent games goes to live relateds final boss
>>715213896fpbp
also pic related
>>715213829 (OP)>your parents>dinnertime>school/work>real life
>>715215306No one wants to accept that QTEs have always been justified as long as they look cool.
>>715213829 (OP)I wonder why they put that victory lap fight from VII when Safer Sephiroth is the real final boss
>>715213829 (OP)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC_b5L5dup4
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>>715213829 (OP)For me it's the unrated masterpiece that a select few know of.
https://youtu.be/3maeGRZymGs?feature=shared
>>715218207>losing>Final Fantasy
>>715219112>the final boss gives the player genuinely heartfelt life advice throughout the battlekino
>>715213829 (OP)Virgil 3 or Zeus
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>>715213829 (OP)tough one but i'm gonna have to go with miracle matter from kirby 64
>>715218585>Miyazaki ran out of time to make an actual good fight>"Actually it's a good thing that it sucks because my favorite Youtuber headcanoned a reason for it"
A boss with such a presence that it can be felt in every single run after you first encounter it. Amazing music too
>>715219378This is the 3rd time this has been posted this thread. "Select few" my ass
>>715218281kirby has always had kino final bosses secondary
holy shit has that ad been played before? that was cringekino i need that clipped
>>715219495>comparing gwyn to the rushed portions of the gameIm sure thats how it works. You develop the game in order of how thing in-game.
Just admit you wanted an excuse to complain about ecelebs loser.
>>715219503funniest thing is that hard mode adds 2 empty corridors, and that changes the fight completely
>>715218281It was aight. Robobot still takes a fat greasy nigger shit on it though.
>>715219503I posted the Rockman theme like 3 days ago, based FTL posting my man
>>715219568Probably because/v/ is the only people who can actually appreciate a good game.
>>715219887every time I see this image I fire up boss memories mode. let's go, cunt, I can still parry you with my eyes closed
>>715219568i mean it is literally kino incarnate you can't deny
>>715218658>>715217867>>715219378my buddies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tz42olNoqk
>>715220087You fired up? Come shoot me down!
>>715219858>>715219989Honestly fair enough. I loved the shit out of the fight
Hades, finally getting to the top and getting curbstomped by him for the first time, then going again and again and again until you beat him, and then beating him over and over again and how it changes once you learn the truth and it's just going up again to see your dad is fucking kino. Also the fact that you can put on the skulls and make him even more difficult later on.
Itโs easily Isshin, best fight in the game by far, incredibly punishing, but never feels like bullshit like maleniaโs waterfowl dance or the Elden dlc slop bosses
Yuyuko in t7 is my personal favorite, her last spell card is peak, remilia or kaguya are both better bosses as a whole, but yuyukoโs last spell card will always be the best
Anyone saying endsinger or hades from ff14 are shadow babies. Shinryu on release was by far the best normal mode in xiv, completely ruined by power creep though
>>715220578>when he just lets you pass without fightingK I N O
>>715213829 (OP)>The freelancer... who had it all...
>culmination of every single story event that happened since the game's inception
>every major faction both evil and good are desperately fighting back against the biggest threat to the world
>the arc is filled to the brim with lore shattering revelations and consequences
>every single player is cooperating together to defeat the forces of Chaos both in the lore and the meta sense
Nothing will ever top the feeling of experiencing the last few updates of the Chaos Saga as they released for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sydy9rKFcdY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sydy9rKFcdY
>>715219568the chosen ones
>>715220858If hearts of stone had a new location it would be goat
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Real ones know
>>715213959Ozma is great, but I preferred the final bosses in Wukong.
>>715213829 (OP)Great Sages Broken Shell
>>715215078Riku and Sora are fucking GODS. This team up after waiting two games was kino as FUARK
>>715215306When it's extreme over the top bullshit that only demigods can do it's okay. asura's wrath and KH2 are the only games that get this pass.
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Why the fuck couldn't the Prometheus Aliens have been like this?
Wow this is the least active I've seen this thread all week
>>715218191https://youtu.be/2Fv1BvuOlCs?si=9dH6GImG32vt9D4_
>>715213909if it was a real human they would've picked consort radahn because his fight is way more retarded than MALEANALIA
>>715220087this is so much worse than i remember
>pj talks about proposing for low effort drama>flies into laser to commit suicide>laser goes through him so he would not have been able to protect you>laser would have missed you in the first placefucking awful 0/10 writing
Best one of the last few years, anyway. Which was a nice surprise since Metroid final bosses had been turning into glorified cutscenes since Super.
>>715222594You're viewing it too much in a meta way anon, this was in 2005 where everything was genuine. PJ was an innocent soul who saw that shit headed for you and took the hit, and died. Pixy then asks you, while supposedly fighting for peace, if you've got a reason to fight, his spite overtaking his own desire for peace which would rope him into the neverending cycle of violence that is the theme of the game (kino)
>>715217594nobody said best boss mechanics, just best boss, you double nigger
>>715214774that's a secret boss / superboss.
>tfw this game had a better final boss than elden ring, and I bet even its fanboys would agree on that aspect
>>715215237Actual peak, yeah. Not in the sense of spectacle that most think of for bosses, but as the final test of the role you played in this game world? Abso-fucking-lutely.
>>715220087>ally turned enemy final fight>rival fight>multiple curveballs thrown, can't fire missiles if not from the front due to ECM, massive AOE missiles that actually made me sweat, lasers i cannot dodge without making retreats>entire world at stake over nothing but the extremism a common man was led to>game uses the last game's theme as a motif>turns the current game's theme into the final boss theme too>amazing intro that opens it up as a sort of flameco dance duel, knight motifs written all over it>kino lyrics reflecting both you and the antagonist's journey>entire song sonically reflects this clash as a dance with the flamenco>only by killing your buddy's bird in the air can you set him free from his absolutist extremism about misguidedly resetting the world with nooks>credits theme echoes the final boss theme>your BUDDY more or less formally apologizes to (you), looking into the screen, at the end and looks forward to meeting you now that he's tried to get a better outlookit's just so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2atlpj7AGXU
>>715213829 (OP)https://youtu.be/6xHqbZAQ8fs?si=jf-N6A3tNuSyotla
>>715218323There's no need to. Once you've seen the last boss you've seen all the gameplay. Completing it just gets you storyfag shit and a huge list of narcissists patting themselves on the back. You usually have to go do something else for a half hour.
Try to imagine the shitshow everything would be if everyone involved in something had their name written on it.
>>715213829 (OP)Sword Saint Isshin by a mile
>>715213986I thought the fight was shit just like Endwalker
>>715213829 (OP)>slopknightfuck off back to /lgbt/
>>715218585I think the fact that his theme is played entirely on white keys really says a lot about the thought and care that used to be put into FromSoftware games.
>>715219063*intense Taoist chanting*
>>715219254Kefka sucks and Giygas is mogged by pic rel
>>715215271Came here for this. Special mention to Coils of Light, fuckin amazing track in both languages.
>>715218585Demons souls did it first.
Best final boss is probably Virgil from dmc3. I do also like the final Colossus in stock though. Some ff games have almost final bosses that are good but the actual final bosses aren't great for those cases like ffx and 7
>>715223343AC0 desperately needs to be ported somewhere that itโs convenient to replay
>>715213829 (OP)https://youtu.be/ahmgUAPrltw
Strangers Of Paradise has the best final boss. The only peak of this entire decade.
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I just really like the gen 2 champion theme
>>715213896Kefka, more like KEKKA.
>>715215078BASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASED
>>715215078Can agree. Kingdom Hearts 2 has the best final boss, that every video game has failed to replicate it's success.
What games have the best final level?
>>715217864new rule as of 20 minutes (only applies to retards)
>>715217664We are all gay for Kingdom Hearts.
>>715225079Brave Fencer Musashi, for me.
>>715224905but that isn't the final boss, this is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eATNAgvjgBs
>>715217940>the end of the DLC>rock music begins playing
My short list would include:
Devil May Cry 3
Pokemon Gold/Silver
Ocarina of Time
Capcom VS SNK2
Sonic Adventure
Remnant 2
I honestly thought there would be more but a lot of my favorite boss fights aren't actually the final boss.
>>715225241Fair enough lol. Strangers Of Paradise still holds one of the best final boss fights I have seen in awhile.
Sin and Punishment was pretty cool. I think I remember the sequel having a cool final boss too.
>>715221317Yeah this is up there. A shame this site is a shell of its former self thanks to the endless raid after 2015.
It's criminal this game faded into obscurity. One of the greatest metroidvanias ever made.
Okami's final boss is kino.
>>715214234Odioโs fucking fantastic, I wish more remasters could be like LaL
>>715226010https://youtu.be/ya3yxTbkh5s
this OST and the cutscene into the power moment against the final boss are great
>>715213829 (OP)In every single rpg/jrpg Ive played (and Ive played most), I always lose interest around the last boss. Sometimes i just reach that part and watch the rest on youtube
>>715219495>"Actually it's a good thing that it sucks because my favorite Youtuber headcanoned a reason for it"Literally everyone who remotely paid attention to the game on their first playthrough would come to the same conclusion as
>>715218585 Sorry you got filtered
>>715223343>can't fire missiles if not from the front due to ECMIt's jousting, they make you joust with fighter jets.
100% LVDO
>>715214718I like my 3rd person shooter interdimensional bullet hell
>No one posted the ultimate bumper car
Shame on you.
>>715216318"Heroes from the realm of light... I will not allow it to end this wayโnot yet. If light and darkness are eternal, then surely we nothings must be the same... Eternal..
>>715214762>hades did it betterLOL Hades was awful and his EX is a cutscene.
wha
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>>715214480>playing normal the first time>"man the EX for this is gonna go fucking crazy">mfw it comes out
>>715218764>When Ultima hits his Limit Break and All As One starts playingThis fight was amazing. And Clive had one of the best "my friends are my power" speeches.
>>715213829 (OP)I wouldn't ever call it the Best of all time but Pizza Tower probably has the most cathartic final boss fight of all time
you can't tell me it wasn't the most poignant fight in video game history
>>715213829 (OP)Malenia is not the final boss of Elden Ring. That's like calling Ozma the final boss of FF9.
>>715220747Not sure if the best boss but I liked the hate, or envy, he had through the entire game, and how every NG gave him extra content, ending without him being to directly surpassing you, but rather by overtaking AllMind through pure hatred just to kill you.
>>715227807I just wanted all of your friends back in eorzea doing a spirit bomb scene in an intermission or cutscene man
>>715228369it was super cool you could battle her in cqc and i still never really figured out how to properly do it
>>715224914Gen 2 champion theme was my graduation song
>>715213829 (OP)mother fucking armstrong. None of you faggots posted this with 200 fucking replies. board has gone to shit
>>715215767>start off post with half joking>faggot still mad
LET'S SEE WHAT YOU'RE MADE OF!
>>715217964He should have been. It all started because of Christian broadcasts on the television.
>>715213829 (OP)The Elder Brain is one of my choices but only in Honour Mode though I also choose Ansem from KH1.
>>715229591Extremely based
But my vote goes to Azel, the Devil Hand
I wanted to say DJ Octavio from Splatoon is a recent one but it's been almost 10 years since release.
Still I think it's the perfect combination of challenge and setpiece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eDfQnERvDI&list=RD5eDfQnERvDI
>>715215395Honestly the genocide bosses were kino and I'm not going to be a contrarian faggot about it. I think this guy was my favourite, even if he's technically not a final boss.
>>715213829 (OP)giygas/geeg from mother 2
While it's not the best bossfight, Gwynn is the best boss for me.
Dark Souls was such an intense experience, starting out as guy who hides behind his shield from a hollow with a broken sword to someone who Sprint R2s every boss late game.
I felt so many different emotions playing this game for the first time, mainly melancholy because I was immersed in the struggle of the chosen undead and taken by the slow pace of everything.
When I entered the Kiln of the first flame and the piano track began it perfectly mirrored what I felt in that moment.
The world had already ended and God was just a dry husk.
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Some really good answers in this thread. Ace Combat bros definitely made me think of Kings. I really like that C1 just becomes consistently more and more mindbroken as the game goes on.
>final fight is against the gods who created the world
>>715213829 (OP)Milenia was aids and almost ruined Elden Ring for me. Best final boss is Psaro in the Dragon Quest 4 DS remake
I will stand by saying that Towani is one of the greatest final boss themes ever. Honorable mention to Baldr Sky for having an insane final sequence as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXZtkVppEhs&list=RDBXZtkVppEhs&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spj-CWlp6I4
>>715228607This. Milena wasn't even a good super boss. She wasn't even a good boss period. She gets brutally mogged by Simon from Clair Obscur
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwAL9RG5YK8
>>715213829 (OP)I just replayed Zone of the Enders 2, and those last two boss fights with Anubis are top tier.
>>715218039>There is no God today. Just me.KINO
>>715214718A lot of the bosses in Remnant 2 were amazing, but Alepsis Taura I'd rank higher than Annihilation. Amazing music, amazing buildup as this giant geometric shape, Remnants greatest threat, and a fight that is just hard enough and just intense enough to be a great ending to the Ne'Rud world.
>>715213896> Le reddit clownGo back.
Honestly i cant choose one, nor two, nor 10, i need at least 30 spots. If games still do one thing well its final bosses.
>>715213896Dancing Mad intensifies
>>715217554This
That fight was insane
>>715213829 (OP)ARMSTRONNNNNNNNNNNG
This flight still sticks with me after a very very long time. I know 3 is the better game but that final boss was weird outside the kino "Jackpot" moment. Savior is just completely different and awe inspiring.
>>715232965>Human race dwindling to triple digits>Last 10 or so soldiers in the EDF walk up to 60 foot tall alien god>Pulls out handcuffs to arrest him>Kills him when he resists arrest I laughed so fucking hard I missed the first phase the first time fighting him
>>715233173Arkham isn't the final boss retard
>>715233173The final boss of dmc3 is the third vergil fight, not the blob with sparda's power.
>>715233259EDF decided to up that by making TIME ITSELF the referee between Alien Super God and Storm-1 to decide who gets paradoxed out of existence.
I doubt most people on /v/ have even beaten him legitimately
>>715216781I mean it DID debut Wario who then ended up becoming a core staple of the Nintendo cast. Can't say that about every boss in a sequel. Especially for a sequel of a handheld spinoff.
GLaDOS isn't challenging, but narratively the fight is grade-A kino
>>715216924>redThat was a hype moment but pokemon does not have good boss fights, it's not mechanically interesting.
>>715216518The Boss sucks.
Solidus fight was better as a fight amd as a whole package Solid Snake vs Liquid Ocelot was better.
>>715231264THE PERFORMANCE OF THESE TWO BODIES IS EVEN
IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SKILL OF THE RUNNER
>>715218585Came here to post this. This and The Boss from MGS3 were to only one to emotionally get me
GLaDoS was cool too.
>>715233902puzzle game becoming 'fire the rockets at the hanging computer' was neat
I wouldn't say it's the best of all time, but I think Gunvolt 3 has a really underrated final boss. It's really fun and tense on higher difficulties, although there's an unskippable bit in the middle of it where you basically do nothing that's kind of annoying.
thunderfox arcade 2p final boss
>>715233382I would have enjoyed the climax to 6 way more if I wasn't ranger the first time and ranger can barely fucking hit the nigger. The boss is just way to big to be enjoyable to fight on ranger or air raider
https://youtu.be/nBQvX2LsO4E
>>715215078RUUULES OF NATURE
>>715215078KH2 is the only ARPG where you really feel your character growing more powerful as you progress.
they really fucked up KH3. sora starts off "weak" but can run up walls and then is completely inconsistent, doesn't have reaction commands, barely does anything cool throughout the game and then is so fucking weak in the end game he turns into a crying bitch and literally gets KO'd from Xion lightly falling on him.
then there's 7R which is just a terrible fucking walking simulator that has you do the lamest chores and has the most retarded inconstant portrayal of cloud ever. in the end he can't even jump over a small gate or cut through a door but 1 minute later he's cutting through buildings and flying around doing advent children autism.. which of course ruins part2 and anything past that point because there can be no character growth for the other 90% of the story. in the real FF7 sephiroths power is amazing in contrast to yours.
in rebirth cloud has already fought a reality bending god before he even gets to kalm so none of the gay shit stillbirth sephiroth does is intimidating at all.
This thread reminded me when i was gonna make a final boss tierlist a few years ago for /v/ with most of the bosses ITT being on the list but i was too lazy to make it even after saving an entire folder of dozens of final boss JPGs. That folder is now deleted
This thread makes me wanna make the tierlist again as i have a massive passion for final bosses
>>715233871Malzeno is so much cooler, what the fuck are you smoking?
>>715233871This is peak but an aquired taste.
Old fatty was torture but iceborn fatty was truly amazing.
>>715213829 (OP)https://youtu.be/QbXw-QSt72k?si=ar2txjchZO7vuBa6&t=524
>>715234417Air Raider has drones, that solves like 99% of his problems, even if it meant his air strikes got a little worse. For ranger I just had to slot one weapon slot as the longest reaching sniper rifle I had and used that. It's still shit, but slightly less so, Wing Diver was by far the easiest.
>>715235705Yes snipers/sniper drones are the best for the fight but again the fight is fundamentally flawed. The amount of time the faggot stays literally outside of the sky box and is functionally invulnerable is incredibly annoying.
>Wing diver>Easier than fencerIn hard maybe since phalanx deleted him in 2 minutes. I hardest/inferno fencer is kang
>>715213829 (OP)The one from the game I like
>>715213829 (OP)Mecha-Hitler, or Not-Hitler from Bionic Commando. Really any game with Hitler as a final boss deal.
>"Ware wa Messiah nari!"
The GOAT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VykuxjFl0k&list=PLAC945CE71DA43EF4&index=36
>>715214348If you don't charge up your spin attack to reflect his volley of energy balls back at him instead of just shooting him while he's charging up, you're a faggot.
>>715236042Fuck you nigger... How's the MTL?
>>715236208I don't like this boss. It's always cool to fight your equal in some way, but the first two phases are totally forgettable, and much worse than that, every part of the fight is a complete pushover. The presentation of the fight is cool, but that's it, it's too easy to be interesting mechanically. Zero 4 has a better final boss.
>>715213829 (OP)Sword Saint Isshin & Eigong
>>715236364>game drops to 12fps as he absorbs all the light>game drops to 5 fps as you reflect them all back at himAbsolute kino
>>715217591Weird how the cartoony Zelda game from 2003 had the most flashy and cool looking sword duel than every Zelda that came after it.
>when he starts blocking your back slices from behindkino
>>715217823One of best game i ever played
Iji is perfect
>>715214348I wish he actually fought you like this up close with his bare hands.
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Honorable mention. The final boss from Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
You have to understand, that first of all, a lot of us didn't even get Super Sonic in Sonic 2, because the special stages were too difficult. So being capable of getting Super Sonic in Sonic 3 was already like "wow, this is amazing". And then & Knuckles comes out, and you discover fucking HYPER SONIC. That's a whole nother level of amazement.
Then you defeat the supposed final boss like you have before. And suddenly, you're in a new stage, and Sonic FLYING. You had not fucking idea Sonic could FLY. You're 8 years old, and this is the dopest shit you've ever seen. (Goku turning Super Saiyan won't air on Toonami until another 5 years
>>715236468Zero 4 fags never cease to piss me the fuck off.
>>715236682Oh that's the VN. I closed it the frame I saw Alice and didn't comprehend the rest of the image
>>715213896As far as I'm aware ff6 was the first game where halfway through the game the bad guy wins, the world undergoes Armageddon and then there's still hours of storyline left as you pick up the pieces and go in for round 2.
And after all of that the last boss is just some crazy clown with too much power and no real plan so he just whimsically destroys things for fun when he's bored.
>>715236460Serviceable to finish the game.
Last I recall it gets a bunch of he/her shit wrong but thats about it, could be fixed by now.
>>715236575I think this guy is probably the worst FF final boss, haven't played 3, the 13 games, or 15 but I'm still pretty confident in that assessment.
Vergil 3, duh.
Also this
>>715236042.
>>715218207I remember beating the game a second time as a kid to see what would happen if I didn't attack. Eventually Sephiroth will attack Cloud, then cloud will do a counter attack, and then the same ending scene happens.
>>7152249149 year old me got a boner from seeing this
pokemon peaked here.
>>715215014the perfect post in response to OP.
100% agreed.
>>715236719>If you kill me you are a man of honorfreaking japs
>>715233871>Transition to the final phase where you must hide behind the massive metal gate to survive the fire, and even then it melts away to nothing>Proof of a hero kicks in when you fire the dragonators
>>715213829 (OP)Anyone from fromgods game
Only the ultimate hardcore real men can beat their games
>>715237274>If you kill me I winFreaking leafs
>>715213896fippy bippy
>>715236861Ridinkulous to think they almost didn't make World of Ruin until they realized they had tons of cartridge space left.
>>715237770>If you kill your enemy you will save the worldfreaking nazis
>>715220747This was so fucking dumb it looped back to being cool again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTfRJkMNiPE
>>715224593ludokino:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVZ6nxAGJZU
>>715216189This faggot was so hard in Rondo it almost pisses me off they made him so easy at the beginning of SotN. I had to actually beat that fucker.
>>715237438play moba and fortnite you will cry like a sissy you are
Malenia is not a final boss
>>715233649I beat him legit when I was 9. Of course, folks was tougher in them days.
>>715232323By the time they released Alepsis Taura most players would have massively outpaced him, even on the higher difficulties. For me even as someone not using a silly DPS build he kind of just died without doing anything, no clue what his gimmick was supposed to be. That's kind of a problem with all the DLC's, Lydusa and One True King kind of fall flat in terms of difficulty because they're only balanced as world bosses.
Great visuals and music like you said though, I think only Spectral Tal'ratha beats him as a World Boss for Ne'rud.
>>715219343nine-ball is too cool for this thread
>>715237573Rance had a pretty cool final battle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNk8MU3B1Dk
>>715236779I'm not a Zero 4 fag, it just has a final boss that actually tries to kill you.
>>715213829 (OP)The Shadowlord in Nier.
Jack of Blades from both Fable, and Fable Lost Chapters.
>>715218281I fucking loved forgotten world. wonderful game
>>715213829 (OP)Isshin the Sword Saint is up there
...but I gotta say Red.
It's you from the first game. How cool is that?
My 9yo self had the exact same pokemon except Espeon and it made me think it's somehow my save file from Yellow. No other game since then has made me feel this way.
>>715239670That finale was so incredible as a whole it almost justifies having to run through it 4 fucking times.
Every time yonah says โbrotherโ and Nier drops his weapon gives me fucking chills.
Also not to be an asshole but Kaine is technically the final boss
>>715213829 (OP)It's Star Dream for me
>All of those casual FromSlop bosses
>No mention of HER
>>715217180/v/ was also full of tourists at the time
>>715222768>replying to DCSfag in 2025
>>715239886Kaine is more of an epilogue boss for me. The Shadowlord is the main antagonist, and his defeat (and the reveal of who he is) writes the conclusion. Everything we have to do for Kaine is a result of what we do to the Shadowlord, so I don't really think of that fight that way, I guess.
>>715218585*PLIM * PLOM * PLIM
>>715222660Hell yeah, Brother.
>>715215570Allant isnโt optional retard
>>715213896You and everyone who agreed with you are trans.
turn based rpg bosses cannot be "good"
like all combat encounters in turn based games, its just deciding when its most convenient when to click the attack option or heal option
the only thing that'd make a fight better than other fights is the music or visual scene
turn based rpg combat will literally never be as intense, engaging, and rewarding as real time combat
>>715215135Wow you must be fun at parties
>>715243629There's nothing quite like barely hanging on in a turn based game where you have to desperately make use of anything you can to avoid the party wipe.
>You solely are responsible for this
>>715215237got this guy to suicide himself! mwahahahahha
>>715227385This was the first time I got my shit rocked by something I thought was a scripted loss. I got anihilated in seconds and just sat with my jaw dropped for a solid 30 seconds.
>>715228369>Was getting absolutely bodied, just running around in a panic>Lyrics to Snake Eater start, shitting myself>We both literally have 1 HP left each>As a last ditch run at her with the knife>Get the last hit as the final "SNAKE EATER" playsI'll never experience anything that kino ever again
>>715245753the ending showing everybody living peacefully millions of years later is the golden cherry on top
i love endings like that
>>715215078>>715234513Sora being completely weak after waking up in KH2 to fighting Xemnas multiple phases at the end was great. I think the best part of the final boss fight is fighting with Riku. Sora feels like he's finally on par with his childhood friend and they're both constantly saving each other.
>>715213829 (OP)This thread made me realize that Final Bosses suck
>>715216978>>715220087>>715223343>the greatest actor for a vidya final boss ever>he completely vanishes after the game is released and nobody has been able to find him sinceit's just like that sometimes, huh
>>715246014now take the blackpill and realize that bosses suck as a concept and the framing of normal fight vs boss fight is a plague on creative design
>>715213829 (OP)Isshin is the best final FromSoft has ever shat out, and it's the best by a long, long mile, nothing comes close.
>>715213986This created so much seethe so it's true.
>>715213896Heโs definitely the best and most challenging FF boss
>>715245859It's such a good game.
>>715231027You can 1 shot Simon though:
https://youtu.be/B-UaBkd6p2M?si=zI6C2PHVzbs-ZlT4
>>715213829 (OP)While I wasn't much of a fan of the rest of the game, the final boss fight against Ocelot was truly apex for the story they were trying to get across. It's perfect in that way. Sure, there's way "cooler" fights, just about every boss in MGR:R fits that bill, but this was truly the best fit to encapsulate the rest of the game, and to some extent the entire series.
>>715246074I don't think that really makes any sense, so I'm curious to hear your reasoning.
>>715246280ignorance is bliss
>>715246074Is this mentality why 99% of western games have shitty, unmemorable bosses or none at all?
>>715233871World was definitely not my favorite but man they did an amazing job with those final few DLCs. World Alatreon and World Fatty were both 10/10.
>>715213829 (OP)I didn't like the story behind it but the Otakemaru fight was pure kino. Yoshitsune was even better but not the final boss. Shout of to Danzo as well for having the best fist fight in action game history (God Hand fags, eat your heart out.)
>>715219112My personal favorite, constantly swapping resistances and weakness is my opium
>>715246335A game should be constantly exploring its gameplay. A boss fight only truly exists as such when there is the presence of a non-boss fight. I believe this innate duality is overplayed without thinking of the ramifications or alternatives. Do all games with them need their boss fights, and do all games with boss fights need their non-boss fights? A lot of times I propose the answer is no. You find many interesting and timeless games when this paradigm is broken. Most puzzle games have no boss fights of course, not even a real analog. Tetris remains the same engaging gameplay all the way through. Shadow of the Collosus is a game that is "all boss fights" but when there's no contrast, they aren't actually bosses anymore. What they are are actually engaging, mostly unique enemies with their own challenges, their own gameplay without padding out the gameplay with chaff that doesn't actually have you engage meaningfully with the game mechanics (well, you know, some of the bosses are pretty similar but whatever).
Plenty of FPS have unnecessary, shitty bosses., and a lot of them serve best with no such concept - merely strong enemy variety, with each enemy acting as its own set of gameplay challenges. RPGs are too broad to say one way or another but they're a genre plagued with useless ordinary fights in many, many games. Some games get the blend right, often roguelites like Slay the Spire where resource management and planning for the boss over routes with normal enemies constantly tugs on risk vs reward in a harmonious experience.
>>715213829 (OP)Isshin. Easily. And I could still see people pretty reasonably saying he's not even the best fight in Sekiro.
>>715214348Good atmosphere and build up, but the fight itself was just too easy and basic.
>>715246789Isshin shits all over this and DSP beating him in 3 tries while anons seethe is the proof. Boss fights are best when they're a true test of what the purest form of the gameplay has been teaching you.
>>715218920As an entire set piece, yeah. Good expository dump, multiple phases that make you use everything you learned, 200 niggas, good music, Mash A to Protect Earth.
W101 entire ending sequence is wonderful.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG9s8J4F__4
Come on /v/ you're better than this
>>715216567I really like this fight for the music and just the general ambience of it, as well as being the conclusion to a fairly emotional story. Unfortunately, this fight is also easy as fuck. If it was sans level difficult it'd be a historically good fight but it just isn't a top tier fight because of that
>>715213829 (OP)Cleopatra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI1qD3IcAwU
>>715213829 (OP)Isshin always pops up in my mind when this questions arises, so probably him.
>>715213896Fpwp. Why do so many niggerfaggots agree with this trash opinion? Play better games and stop being gay.
>>715247003It's a cutscene battle, but that also is part of why it's kino. Not every great boss also needs to be balls to the wall hard.
>tfw "But it refused."
>>715213829 (OP)This one.
Only because she filtered people from progressing
>>715247247most faggots here on /v/ never even played FF 1-6. youtube opinions.
>>715246789This is a very long winded and ai-like way to just say "some bosses and regular enemies suck"
>>715216658jesus christ I keep forgetting how BIG that bitch was
>>715213829 (OP)>two from games>FF7 (but the original because the fight still misses in the remake)>some pseudo niche indie gameI can't pinpoint it but there must be a word for that super generic selection of games that screams, I only played 5 games in my life and mostly watch streams.
Most of the people referencing Sekiro didn't even played it, but it gets often cited as most mainstream approved hard game, so its the cool thing to do.
>>715213896AHEM! THERE IS BEST POST ON MY FIRST POST!
>>715215078Came here to say this. The ending was pure kino.
>>715223343>the missile rising in the sky behind pixy as the music reaches a crescendo
>>715233871great end fight
>>715213829 (OP)A personal favorite of mine.
>>715217405I'm not even kidding I pulled the "stand up to say McDonald's" meme during the fight except I was mouthing "kino" like a complete autist.
>>715217225>>715214734Anubis too
>>715247482>hollow knight>pseudo niche indie game
>>715213829 (OP)The Maven is definitely in my top 10 and definitely my most satisfying to have finally killed.
Kaguya in TH8 is also up there with all the bonus cards as the time counts down for the night.
>>715246602The story was good, it just wasn't tied to the overall narrative of the political events and whatnot which took up most of the game. As just the conclusion to "our" story it's a really good one, and moreso after they expanded it in the DLC.
I really, really liked how Otakemaru was secretly a doppelganger/the enemy has the same moveset as you fight too.
>>715247815I guess I hate Tokichiro more than Otakemaru but it's still pretty weak. Nioh 2's story in general is pretty weak. The poster child for a modern "good gameplay can save a bad story."
>>715245925Every boss in that game can be a final boss.
>>715245753>I'll never forgive you, for making my daughter cry!Still Fucking Hits
>>715225556The buildup to Perfect Chaos with him stealing the Emeralds and then everyone cheering you on is incredible. I kind of wish the fight wasn't so easy, but eh, it was a family game.
>>715247982>not making your daughter smileshiggydiggy
>>715233649I can't even reach the guy I'm terrible at this game.
>>715248256The instrumental of Open Your Heart when you first go Super is burned into my brain. The whole scene is perfect cinematography.
>>715247708yeah same as dave the diver
>>715236364>not using the bottle just to clown on him
>>715236680This image may as well be canon because Sephiroth holds a timeline and universe-spanning grudge against Cloud over losing.
>>715247932It's fine if you think about it like a family drama. The final battle serves as the reconciliation with Tokichiro and fulfilling your duty to your mother, as well as unbeknownst to the player at the time putting your uncle to rest.
>>715236364Y-You can shoot him when he does that?
>>715243292No. We are sneed.
>>715224448Grow up manchild stop crying at tendie games with trannies in them
>>715213829 (OP)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBAHzsqBmCA
>>715249023Juxtapose my dick in your mouth faggola
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>>715220087It was perfect.
>>715213829 (OP)mgs4, snake vs liquid geezer fist fight. KINO
>>715248861That's the fucking problem tho. The game expects me to care about Tokichiro when I only cared about killing him. It does nothing to endear you to him, it just expects you to care. Fuck that faggot. Him walking off into the sunset is one of the biggest spit in the face's I've gotten from a story. The death poem is kino but that's not from the games writers.
>>715249085>game where you stare at tits to get horny>and kill gods and oppose the rulers>rereleaseNever ever. They'd make you pay double for DLC and then cut some content due to licensing issues or whatever. At least the emulator allows you to play in 120fps in 8k.
>>715213829 (OP)SO YOU HAVE COME
>>715249446which emulator? I would like to play it again.
>>715236720>a lot of us didn't even get Super Sonic in Sonic 2, because the special stages were too difficult. Funny the special sages in Sonic 1 are worse for me even today. I still get nervous doing them because despite knowing exactly where to go I'm afraid of accidentally falling onto goal orbs.
>>715217862>white mage good, he can use the masamue,>literally given to you five minutes before the end of the gamealways bothered me.
You know what I hate? Easy final boss fights.
Too bad a lot of rpgs final boss get so fucking easy if you engage with side content. Last offender for something like this was Expedition 33.
>>715213896That whole sequence had the right idea, if you were not overleveled.
First you had to fight through Kefka's tower without dying, enemies one-shotting you left and right if you had wrong levels.
Then you started with the final boss lift, learning their move rotations little by little and getting further and further with one of the best soundtracks ever blaring.
And finally Kefka descended as the biblical god, sapping your whole party to 1HP as a starting move finally giving that megalixir a concrete use case.
>>715250783I would like to give a shout to Tales of Vesperia, because if you do the sidequest for all the ultimate weapons Duke steals them from you and gains a new form.
The two best types of fights are going to be:
โMirror Matchโ
>Vergil 3
>Raven Beak
>Red (Pokemon gen 2)
>Royce Bracket (Transistor)
>Ganondorf (TotK)
>Lou (Guitar Hero 3)
>Hades
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>Senator Armstrong
>Ganondorf (Twilight Princess)
>Jergingha
>The Radiance
>Fatalis
>Extreme Measures 4 Hades
Bonus points that make your fight even better: boss is a protagonist from previous games, music includes a callback to the main/title theme (or just play Proof of a Hero in MHโs case), and the fight including all the mechanics youโve learned throughout the game, but not necessarily requiring you to use them to beat the fight (you can stop Beast Ganonโs charge without going into wolf mode by putting an arrow in his forehead, or destroy Raven Beakโs miniature sun with a power bomb)
>>715250960Graces did something similar. If you beat the post-game dungeon, Lambda gets a superpowered form too, the game even warns you about it.
>>715228369>>715239857These 2 answers are the only valid ones.
The mentor who nurtured you, who made you think it was the villain but in reality was the sacrifice so you could succeed.
Goosebumbs.
Yourself from another game with almost the same team, like an alter ego taking you completely by surprise with the most epic soundtrack none of you dear working out with because too many feels.
I'll add a third and final one.
Ganon from Wind Waker.
Finally we are able to stick a goddam sword in the bad guys forehead. No more tripping over into the flames or disintegrating with a recoiled spell or getting reduced to his primary form and flying away across the universe. No. Sword deep in the fucking forhead. Literally swordfacefucked.
>>715250989Twilight Princess' final boss has to be one of its biggest disappointments, which is really fucking saying something.
There is no setting. No context. You just fight him in a fucking field because the game needs to end at that point. Also a bunch of skulls pop out of the ground for no reason so that you basically can't run out of health. The entire thing felt embarrassingly sloppy.
>>715251261The entire game is way too easy so skulls having hearts is basically a moot point when I can carry 4 potions of full healing and most hits do 1 heart of health at most. I just like the fact that you kick his ass, then kick his ass in beast form, then kick his ass on horseback, then kick his ass in a duel. None of the other Ganondorf fights adequately show just how hard he is to kill.
>>715243629Yeah, 100 win streak and clearing the master class battle tower in Pokemon was just a matter of clicking heal when on low health, with no preparation, complex decision making, or tense moments. Oh wait, that's retarded.
>>715213829 (OP)Grand Guignol from Black Souls II
Cobar in Killzone Liberation
Because of the stupid camera I never noticed ammo boxes on the sides of the arena, so it took me days of retrying several times per evening until I finally beat him. Then I looked it up to see how people fare with such a tough fight and felt like a retard lol
>>715251881Thsy's a fair point. I just remember getting board. Like the "epic horse fight" section where he just sort of awkwardly mills around if you fall too far behind.
I think that's where actual stakes might have helped.
>>715246074Nah, this is retarded. The stakes and difficulty of boss fights are kino and don't detract from regular fights. Boss fights even exist in real life. Normal distribution is always going to produce a bunch of mediocre challenges and a few very difficult ones.
>>715214718Man, I need to go black and play some Remnant 2 now that I'm bored of Nightreign. The final DLC just left such a bad taste in my mouth with that bullshit gliding mechanic.
>>715213896The music for this final boss makes you feel like you're fighting a god , the music is so unorthodox it's insane
Eigoing from Nine Sols is a great example of a final boss that reflects the game's themes. Specifically dao and acceptance. None of her attacks follow a set pattern, but everything has a distinct visual/audio cues. Then for the craziest sequences, the safest course is often to stop moving and let just yourself be juggled through.
At itโs core, this is a story/game about acceptance, right? Thatโs a big thing The best example I can give of this is Eigongโs third phase big super sky slash juggling combo. It felt like this attack came out of nowhere, and even when I was parrying, I still felt like I was always in the wrong place at the right time
But when I didnโt move at all, didnโt try to overposition myself or try too hard, it just worked. And then I tried just taking my thumb off the stick for that attack, and when I do that, parrying the attacks as they come and letting her juggle you, you end up in the perfect position to counter every single part, and it works every single time
The more I think about this, the more I can see it in the rest of the game. If you just start accepting the attacks as they come, the game will put you exactly where you need to be. Once I realized this, the fact that a few hitboxes are slightly inaccurate completely stops mattering.
the game gets harder when you try to take more control than you need to, and thatโs the entire point of the game
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>>715218585God, when the final boss of DS3 begins running on fumes and switches to Gywn mode and his theme starts up. Chills.
>>715246074>bosses suck as a concept>the framing of normal fight vs boss fight is a plague on creative design>>715246789>Uhh some games do get the balance right and do need fodder fights and boss fights>Some games are all boss fights, which means they aren't boss fights (???)Lol
Bosses don't suck as a concept. The contrast of low stakes, low tension, easy fights with a high stakes, high tension, difficult fight creates a memorable and enjoyable experience for the player. They also add gameplay and narrative weight to a character who is supposed to be special or powerful. It would be retarded if Sephiroth was as strong as a normal Shinra grunt.
You're not even arguing that bosses are a bad concept, just that bosses aren't a mandatory concept, which no one ever said. Pointing out individual shitty bosses doesn't really make sense either. Boss fights are a tool that can be used well or poorly, be 0% of a game or 100%. It's like saying combat sucks as a concept lol.
Bayonetta deserves a mention. Not even a huge fan of the game but that final boss was neat.
Also Bhunivelze from Lightning Returns really slapped hard.
>>715215237>"Hmm, let's create this iconic boss that represents the foil of the game">"That's great Tim. Let's make sure to have him and his base have incentives to do him first and punish you for going after the Lieutenant second!">"Great idea!"Not only do you get the location of Marsia base, but he calls you out if you ask him to ask Lieutenant about mutants being unable to breed.
It's just so ass backwards for me. Was this for people replaying the game, in case they forgot where the base was and they could get to it quickly?