Picrel is kinojank
Talk about Shmups here

Back to DOJ I go.
Game is gud and for now there isn't another I'd like to learn.

>>715232419 (OP)
no jank about it

>>715232419 (OP)
Anyone have a list of all the Raptor-likes? I've also played Galactix and Highway Hunter. Been interested in more of those.

>>715234267
you might like Sky Force Reloaded, if you can stomach the obvious grind system

>>715232419 (OP)
ces

>>715237124
Huh?

>>715232419 (OP)
I can't beat beyond the first boss, how do I farm for higher tier guns?

the GOG release of this both fucked up the music and put a god-awful blob filter over the pixel art. what the hell.

More shmups like CCWI and DFK? Sensory overload KINO

>>715234267
As in DOS shmups?
Tyrian
DemonStar
Mayor Stryker
Flying Tigers
Sidewinder
If It Moves, Shoot It!
Baryon
Abaron
Future Dimension, kinda

>>715238053
Yeah. Thanks

>>715234267
You can use gamefaqs/mobygames to bring up a list of all the dos shmups.

>>715232419 (OP)
This and Stargunner had such good soundtracks.

Shmupbros, I think I finally have to accept that I'm too retarded for shmups. I'm simply not getting better at it.

>>715240442
They're an easy genre that's just about execution and memorisation, don't listen to the memes

>>715240484
>just about execution and memorisation
That is exactly what I'm struggling with.

>>715240538
>playing psikyo meme games
OH NONONONO

>>715240442
Then look for easier ones and start playing for score.
Non-arcade ones are usually much easier.

>>715240634
I love the art-style in gunbird 2. Sadly that doesn't help me with not getting raped by the gameplay.

Wasn't there a new Cotton game or something? What or where is it?

Are Shmups threads cursed to die even before reaching half of posts limit?

>>715241596
It's because it's a niche genre despite how loud and obnoxious shmupfags are

>>715232419 (OP)
Does backspace still give you a turbo death laser in this game?

>>715232419 (OP)
>kinojank
*jankludo

NOooOOOO INBACHI YOU BASTARD
RELEASE HINA FROM YOUR CONTROL RIGHT NOW

>>715241730
Oh, that's unfortunate.
My first game as a solo dev is going to be a shmup. I just think they're neat.

>>715232419 (OP)
OK whats the "kino" part of it you stupid fucking nigger faggot? The entire game is uniform lines of enemies moving straight down the screen in boring, uninspired patterns, and occasionally firing an aimed shot. No patterns, no acceleration, no flow, just fucking garbage. Kill yourself. Kill yourself now.

>>715241934
based

>>715242012
entire genre*

>>715242012
Don't get your deviant-art loli games in a twist

>>715242040
Lol do you really think you can "no u" yourself out of this one stupidraptorfaggotnigger? No, other shmups DO NOT have the worthless excuse of shitty level design that your garbage has, you can't lie your way out of this one. KILL YOURSELF. NOW.

>american seething about pixels again

>>715242224
The music isn't bad either. I like the beeps and bloops.

>>715242224
Calm down Mork

>>715241934
I hope you don't intend to make a living of a shmup game, because you won't.

>>715240442
If you want to get better at the process, you have to learn how to make your own routes by combining various tricks, resource management, learning where to look and so on. As you keep doing that in more games, eventually you will internalize common patterns in the genre(not just bullets, I mean it in the general sense of the word) and become progressively faster at dealing with similar problems.

>>715232419 (OP)
Have strong nostalgia for this since it was one of the first games I played as a kid. The ancient PC we got from a neighbor ran it at half speed and every time I used the megabomb the screen shook and slowed it to a crawl for a good five seconds.
In retrospect it's pretty lackluster compared to Tyrian, but that's a pretty high bar to shoot for.

>>715242224
I know you're doing a bit but this kind of rabid elitism is why shmups remain such a stagnant genera. It's the equivalent of people screaming about modern first person shooters not conforming to the standards of Wolfenstine 3D.

>>715232419 (OP)
This game was the hottest shit ever

>>715246379
>some guy being rude on 4channel dot org is why normalfags dont like shmups
Let me guess, you also think that a shaman performing a ritual to the rain god will make it rain tommorow? Actual retard djinn brain belief

>>715246379
>it's the equivalent of people screaming about wolfenstein 3d not conforming to the standards of modern first person shooters
FTFY

>>715246379
>why are shmups not popular?
>it's TOTALLY not because 80% of the best titles are completely inaccessible, the other 18% come with infinite continues that make it physically impossible for a normalfaggot to understand how to play, and the other 2% that actually try to be accessible to newcomers are small indie projects
>its because ANON WAS MEAN TO ME ON 4CHAN!!!!!
Kill yourself.

>get into shmups
>see that it's a meme genre for retards too bad to play rhythm games
>community is filled with cheaters and faggots that hide strategies
>we're supposed to just trust high scores because dude trust me super secret glitch you can't see it just trust me
>all just to copymonkey anyway
LMAO

>>715246379
>in retrospect it's pretty lackluster compared to Tyrian

>>715246682
Imagine giving a shit about this instead of just grabbing the shump and doing your 1cc or something.

>>715246379
>this kind of rabid elitism is why shmups remain a niche genre
Confusing the symptom with the cause.

>>715246747
You're looking for reddit if you want a hugbox

>>715246815
Reddit seems perfect for community drama actually. 4chan, not so much.
Play the games faggot.

>>715246815
>you don't want to listen to my retarded trolling? UHHHH REDDIT MUCH???
Pills, liberal.

>>715246863
But I do play, hence my post about the problems in the genre? Are you fucking retarded? Is that why you like shmups lmao
>>715246896
>pointing out objective issues and problems is trolling
You sound like fighting game fags when they got btfo and have to cope

>>715246379
You don't really believe this, right? Like do you seriously think that shmups are niche because a few people are mildly annoying on random internet forums? You aren't ACTUALLY that retarded, right?

>helicopters your PC Speaker

>>715246932
You didn't make a post about any game, you made a post about the community.

>>715246625
I've always wanted more, I dunno, "western"? style shmups like Raptor. I don't want to deal with bullet hell autism, i just want to scroll and shoot and blow things up.

>>715246986
>couldn't instantly tell what game it was when i mentioned the specific retarded community behaviour
Yep, it's a non-player

Please play Twinkle Star Sprites

I love Cotton!

>>715246932
You didn't list any "objective issues"
>it's a meme genre
Literal meaningless sentence, "meme genre" doesn't convey anything. You might as well say "tranny genre" or "faggot genre" its just buzzwords
>for retards too bad to play rhythm games
the skill set is completely different.
>community is filled with cheaters and faggots that hide strategies
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
>we're supposed to trust high scores because blah blah
No one gives a shit about whatever dodonpachi world record outside the elite of japanese autists, this literally has nothing to do with the average shmup player

>>715247020
Could be several really.

>>715247041
Again? I played every goddamn version and the sequel!

>>715247091
>he doesn't know
Typical
Go back to jerking off Mork and playing 20 minutes of Gradius

>>715246990
>I just want to scroll and shoot and blow things up, I dont want to deal with bullet hell autism
If you really meant this you would just play any Jap-style shmup that isn't a bullet hell like Zeroranger or Psikyo games or Raiden Fighters or Mushi original or Eschatos but you won't because you're a stupid fucking faggot liar. Kill yourself.

>>715232419 (OP)
looks familiar...

>>715246379
>DUDE all of those normalfags totally want to play shmups TRUST ME the ONLY THING thats stopping them is this stupid fucking chud who's being meannnn to me on 4 chan dot com :(((((
actual mental retard.

What's the first shmup I should beat so I can beat my second shmup

I recommend checking out
>Task Force Kampas
Very calarts in presentation, but great for beginners to practice
>Andro Dunos II
Excellent sprite work, great OST, and the only shmup I've ever played with level select
>Q-Yo Blaster
Goofy, light-hearted cute 'em up with some Max Flesher influence. Definitely on the harder side.

>>715247068
Which Cotton game should I get on Steam to get into this series?

I think Jets n Guns is a great Tyrian/Raptor-like.

This old game called Outwars is not exactly a shmup but I imagine someone who likes shmups would like it.

It's extremely telling that shmupfags like Mork and CloverTAC Jaimers etc are completely filtered by anything that requires on the spot dynamic thinking, that can't be rigidly routed every time
It's why instead of shmups you should just play rhythm games, who don't pretend it's anything other than execution

>>715247180
Raiden Fighters is so fucking good.
I want more than two lives but it's still so fucking good.

>>715248212
>it's extremely telling that <thing which never happened>
What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

>>715246379
>>715246705
What game is Tyrian?

>>715248349
>i-if I just deny reality then things won't be true anymore
True genius

>>715248573
>if I refuse to substantiate my claims then people will just randomly start believing them
Pills, liberal.

>>715248668
Except time and time again we've seen shmupfags btfo by real games? Just like at how badly Mork gets filtered by Dark Ages or his gameplay in action games

>>715248723
>his gameplay in action games
Here's him beating Batman Returns on Mania difficulty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qj5Hoqtzyg&list=PLMDuVHl1iOH-h67muE61DUeHumoHcAP22&index=15

>>715247850
Rock 'n' Roll, it features a good variety of characters and lets you select which level you want to pick, beating the game with different characters also unlocks different stages you can play in a run.
Reboot is also a fun time, it's a remake of the X68000 version of the first game while coming bundled with a faithful remaster of it. Scoring in the remake is a lot of fun since you have to manage which crystals you want to turn into points or magic spells and when to turn them into points. Magic Barrier still trivializes the game btw.
2 and Boomerang are great games but their ports are shit, you're better off using Mednafen.

>>715248841
>arcadeshit
Now watch him play resident evil or dmc or god hand or vanquish etc etc
He completely flails, thought the parry in dmc 3 was hidden tech, he also pretends to be some competitive fighting game player but he doesn't play
Shmupfags are dishonest liars

Re-recorded this from the /vr/ bread.
https://streamable.com/qxzl3r
Enjoy a lot of misdirecting, tight dodging, and a bittersweet ending.
Don't try this at home. No really, just click the hyper.

>>715249005
>it's le buzzword so it doesnt count
Beat 'em ups are action games. They feature randomized, inconsistent enemy behavior. If you can account for enemy behaviour in a 2d beat em up, you can so in a 3d one.

>>715249005
>this random e-celeb supposedly plays badly in these 3d beat em ups so that means every single shmup player ever sucks at games that arent shmups.... OKAY CHUD???
This is called "conspiratorial thinking" btw

>>715249090
>ignoring everything else
Yep it's dishonesty time
Also telling that whenever I made a shmup thread, it'd die with zero discussion
Or when I asked for specific advice I only ever got general "just dodge lmao" or skill issue replies

>>715249212
Sure does, all shmup superplayers cannot play real games

>>715249261
NTA but
>>ignoring everything else
It was irrelevant to his point. What would be the purpose in responding to it?
>dishonesty
Why do you assume any disagreement is dishonesty?
>whenever I made a shmup thread it'd die with zero discussion
What does that have to do with anything? A thread about a niche subejct doesn't get too many posts wow I would never fucking expect that!!!!
>or when I asked for specific advice and only ever got general just dodge or skill issue replies
If you're having a problem with a specific part of a game it's not very likely that there'll be someone who can help you with that in a fucking 4channel dot org thread, maybe go to a place with actual players like system 11 or the discord?

>>715249471
>point out how shmupfags are dishonest non-players and provide evidence
>you immediately prove my point
Sweet thanks

*bombs internally*

Hot take: the best way to do a danmaku/bullet hell style game is actually just making a traditional shmup but with high bullet density and small hitboxes.
Gradius V was kinda close but not quite there. Some CAVE games definitely tried.

What do you guys play shmups with?
Stick? gamepad? keyboard? your dick?

>>715254115
In order of preference
Keyboard > X360 controller > power gap > the fucking switch joycons.

Underrated.

>>715232419 (OP)
I never took the idea that Europeans can't make shoot 'em ups very seriously, until I bought Sky Force on Steam because it was cheap and holy shit, what a piece of shit. I wonder what kind of developers spend time and effort and money making a game from start to finish without ever realizing how absurdly bad that game is. How does someone release a game where it feels like you have a second of input lag to move your fucking ship, but it's not because your controllers are fucked up, but because that's a fucking game mechanic?
WTF?
Then you look at the reviews on Steam, and over 90% are positive, out of fucking 2000 reviews, and you see something like Natsuki Chronicles, which has a similar "grind" idea in story mode, and it has just over 100 reviews, a lot of which are critical. It makes me wonder if consumers are completely retarded.

I got this mature dot dodging games gaiden pack here somewhere but it's a messy fucking setup alright

Hinaà̴̡à̵̱͕͘ä̶̱͕̫́Ą̷̬̈́̂͠Ą̴̥̱̿̈

>>715254115
I use an old arcade stick made for favela dwellers to play King of Fighters, which is the only thing they play with arcade sticks here in my country. But it's not very good, so I just bought an arcade stick with Sanwa parts (which they also say isn't ideal for shmups, but screw it).
The advantage of arcade sticks is that they are more comfortable and more fun to play shmups. Once you get used to it, going back to the dpad is kind of impossible. It's easier to switch back to keyboards or even hitboxes (those two, by the way, I think are superior for those who want pure results) than to the dpad.

>>715255393
Poor Hina just wanted to make everyone into cool robots.

>>715241596
I'm 'fraid so

>>715255398
I opted for using one of those M30 gamepads, it's not too bad

>>715237690
it's been a long time since I played it, but IIRC you have to carefully choose which upgrade you take, as you cannot farm in this game. the freedom of choice this game gives you is an illusion. that means, if you pick the wrong upgrade, your run is essentially bricked.
the game was meant to be played like a roguelike: play, pick an upgrade, see if you can progress. if not, start over again.

The current GDQ had a shmup speedrun and the runner even used an arcade stick, anyone knows what specs that guy was running?

>>715257630
I don't know the specs but I had the best experience with LS-62

>>715257773
I saw a video where the guy makes a table using several different levers, but the number differences are so small that I started to suspect that it's one of those cases where, in blind tests, people won't see a difference.
On the other hand, I don't doubt that there are autists who have played the same game hundreds of hours with each lever to measure the efficiency of each one or something like that...

>>715259129
Link to said video?

In Raptor you don't buy anything until Bravo levels.

You get the A2A missile very early on and the A2G one a couple missions later then the Dumb missile and the Micro missile before the 1st area ends.

The autotracking machine gun is useful but Bravo and Outer Region levels are all about dodging and killing enough to buy the Death Ray. If you're good enough you will have the Death Ray a couple missions into the Outer Regions and then cheese the game to the very end.

For me, it's Danmaku Unlimited

>>715254485
>forks of Citra still can't emulate most of the 3D Classics games including this one
>M2 didn't port most of them to the Sega Ages line on the Switch
Fuck, I just want to play these on anything that isn't a 3DS

>>715259284
https://youtu.be/ghadFSmtdVU?si=ixr6nAYyJiNLAI5N

So I'm not much into SHMUPs but I really enjoyed gunhed / blazing lasers for the PC-Engine. I'm assuming this is probably a meme tier game for most of you but I'm trash at SHMUPs and the lower difficulty is just about what I can handle. Anyone have games with a similar difficulty level?

>>715261818
>blazing lasers for the PC-Engine
Tyrian looks like the closest contender. It even has somewhat similar parallax effect.

>>715248979
>Rock 'n' Roll
What the fuck is up with the Steam title all over the place?

>>715249082
>Managed to dodge what looked like impossible segments
>Killed by random sparse bullet pattern
Luv me some shmups, yep.

>>715262193
I think Cotton Reboot is better. It comes with the old version of the game, as well as a remaster.

>>715262374
Pretty much lol. The funnier part is that in a real run I literally never died to these enemies, the video happened when I was practicing it to learn the entire segment on nm/nb. And this is the second time, I recorded another attempt because my first video ran at 20 FPS.

I own and play with a gradius yugioh deck IRL

>>715259129
I had the sanwa JLF everyone does and the LS40, the LS58 and the LS62.
The biggest difference is by far the one between sanwa and seimitsu. The problem with the sanwa is that it feels sluggish, like the stick "sticks" to whichever direction you push it towards for a longer time. This isn't ideal on shmups where you're constantly tapping in different directions. It's easier to tell the "deadzone" on those.
Regarding seimitsu sticks there's a few differences there as well, but mostly it's the springs they include (light or heavy, the LS58 and the 62 are on the light side) and internally they're somewhat different (the LS58 fucked with me because not all directions felt the same, that was because pic related was differently designed).

>>715241804
iirc yes but you should just play the 1994 version anyway.

Hibachi

>>715264598
What can you say about durability? Does it require a lot of maintenance? Or can you play for years without having to clean/lubricate the parts?

Does anyone remember a series of browser shmups (I think they used Shockwave) where everything was made out of simple shapes and had a very etherial presentation? I specifically remember the last entry in the series had a laser beam sub weapon that became wider and more powerful the longer you held off fron using it, so if you somehow managed to get to the final boss without using it you could fire off a giganto beam that nearly filled the screen.

I know it's a long shot but maybe someone can help me find it.

playing DDP DFK Black Label a lot these days
really close to 1CCing Taisabachi, and i can only dream for now to do Hibachi and Zatsuza

>>715257630
its probably a LS 32

>>715270240
Put Dai-ondo up for the Taisabachi fight, surely that will make you win

>>715246973
this one was made for gravis ultrasound

Been playing ginga force. It's fun.

>>715270353
did it help you?

>>715232419 (OP)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/274560/Revolution_Ace/

Very raptor-like

>>715266953
Loli Hibachi

>>715270240
no one on /v/ ever even talks about DFK yet alone plays it

i wonder why DFK is not more popular even tho its kinda noob friendly and a great beginner DDP entry

>>715254115
any good Dpad will do
i prefer the PS2 dpad

just never use analog joysticks on gamepads because you can't tap

>>715271510
I do, sometimes.

>>715271067
No

>>715272207
tell me more anon, 1.5 or BL? 1CC status?

>>715268230
Hard to say, I haven't used mine in a while. Disassembly is pretty easy though.

>>715268230
Arcade sticks are like tanks

my LS32 is probably 14 years old now, i played on it for thousands of hours, shmups + fightan games, never even lubricated it

these joysticks are made to be used in real arcades where drunk people actually rape them, smash them with full force when they rage etc.. and they still somehow survive

>>715273303
I would say BL is overall a better version, only beat it normally (no Hibachi) with stronk style.
In 1.5 I did power style 1-ALLs with all 3 ships because why not

>>715254115
I play all 2D games with a PSOne controller hooked up to a USB converter.

>>715273632
nice, yeah BL is more fun than 1.5

did you beat Taisabachi also? if you did you can easily attempt Hibachi

>>715276025
Not in a run
But in the training mode I got him down to no miss on full bombs and using hyper of course . Might try eventually

Any other cool shmup that doesn't cover the screen in slow gay ass tranny neon projectiles like Gunbird or Under Defeat?

>>715276278
i got to him in runs at least 10 times but ofc i choke the fight so bad

>>715276730
>tranny
Kindly fuck off and never return. Better yet, kill yourself.

>>715276878
>"t-they are not tranny colors"
*sigh*

>>715277129
This nigga thinks colors are trannies.

>>715276730
please leave this thread

>>715277261
>>715277375
>>715276878
Not leaving until you give me a good shmup recommendation.

>>715277129
Am I drunk as shit or one of the Blue Wish games allowed you to recolor bullets?

>>715277129
Yes, great, you're mentally ill. Do you want a medal?
Now fuck off.

>>715277530
Eat shit.

>>715277625
>>715277710
Still no answer.
*sigh*

>>715232419 (OP)
>>715238053
>Raptor
>Demonstar
I'm..... old??

>>715277906
If you are in a shmup thread, there is a high chance you are at least older than 25.

>>715277968
25? all my shmups bros are 35+

>>715277828
You won't get one.

>>715278034
35 and 25 is the same thing anyway.

>>715278095
I'm still not leaving.

>>715278234
Ok, play SameSameSame.

>>715277968
>>715278034
I'm only 21, but I grew up with my dad's and my half brother's games

>>715278314
Thanks

>>715276730
>>715277129
>>715277530
>>715278234

>tranny obsessed freak can't stop thinking of trannies even when playing shmups

I remember playing a shmup that featured modern aircraft

It was stupidly hard and I always picked the F-15 or the Rafale because every other plane sucks

Forgot about it

>>715278747
idk sounds like Psikyo or maybe Aero Fighters or Strikers 1945

Poor anon has no idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nztprfXPa5Y

>>715266953
Cute Hina, Hinafag

>>715278747
Strikers 1999?

>>715276730
You'd be better off asking the dadshmuppers in /vg/, /v/ only plays tranny games

>>715284053
rather /vr/ because /vg/ is even worse

>>715279612
>this entire game
Why shump devs hate the players so much?

>>715232419 (OP)
More than 3/4 of /v/ wasn't born yet when Raptor Call of the Shadows was released

Jets N Guns is arguably my favoritr. Tyrian isn't far behind and neither is Raptor 2.

>>715284792
It's a loving SM relationship

>$60 for sonic wings
who the FUCK allowed this

>>715276730
Raiden Fighters series

>>715257502
>>715237690

I remember beating the game through grinding the first episode of levels, it feels like there's a huge difficulty spike after them. I don't remember anything in the first episode being too tough, as long as you get the ground and air missiles, then focus on building defenses, then grind for better weapons.

I'm going to have to replay it to get the details sorted out.

>>715278234
>>715284053
kek true

>>715232419 (OP)
I think angel at dusk might be the best shmup I've ever played, do autistic shmup boomers like it? I feel like they dont talk about it at all.

i 1CCd over 10 shmups, many of them hard Cave shmups but i simply cant 1CC Ikaruga

my brain simply cant process the polarity shit... how do i unfuck my brain?

Should I get a stick or leverless just for shmups?
>use your keyboard
I would if I had linear switches but I have clickies

>>715287576
>Cave retard
>asks how to un-retard
lol

>>715287672
Nah, a good dpad is just better.

>>715288042
is it over for me? i cant brute force my brain...

>>715288593
You are fine. Would have been much worse if you could 1cc ikaruga but not a single real shmup

>>715288689
>real shmup
>caveshit

>>715289059
Correct. Cope and seethe.

>>715289059

>>715287576
Route it out

>>715277129
>purple is a "tranny color" now
What next? Red? Navy Blue? Are we just including the entire fucking rainbow at this point?

>>715273584
Good to know. The problem with my generic arcade stick is that after only four months of use, I started to feel that the lever wasn't moving smoothly, so I had to open it up, clean it, and apply lubricant. After another 3 months or so, I started to feel the first signs that it wasn't 100% again, and I thought, "Instead of maintaining this piece of shit every 3 months, I'm going to buy one with Japanese parts".
I hope they last for years.

>>715289218
Nice

>>715289059
why are 2hu faggits like this?

>>715294119
It's true though

>>715294440
you know whats true? 2hu is literally a game for retards who can't beat a regular arcade shmup

>>715294440
Explain

Bomba?

>>715297008
Clips?
https://streamable.com/fyj0w8

How is Radiant Silvergun? I'm trying to get into shmups and I've played Ikaruga but I don't like it. RS seems similar but I think having all your weapons all the time seems fun.

>>715300584
I felt that ending

Out of bombs...

Actually when I'm out of bombs, my dodging skills suddenly shoot up to asian-tier, only to die to some stray bullet of course.
Now the issue is that I almost die with bombs in stock lol

everyone talking about seimitsu levers but what about buttons?

what are the quintessential shmup buttons and layout?

>>715303946
That really doesn't matter much. You are usually holding one button, or smashing it repeatedly if it makes a difference/there's no autofire, and occasionally press something else for bomb/gimmick.

HEY this game shipped with my computer back in 94!

raptor is pretty brutal
you're forced to not buy anything in the early stages until you get the autotrack minigun
then you need to buy the other two always firing weapons which you'll waste 2-3 stages for
then it's a slog until you save for the turbo laser which is an upgrade to the autotrack minigun
you need to unlock the twin laser before reaching the 3rd area or you'll be wiped out instantly, it's stupidly expensive and you'll slog through multiple levels in the 2nd area just to get it
the bosses all have the same pattern so the turbo laser is always useful when you're dodging while the twin laser rapes everything in the game

>euroshmup shill
>NO clips or videos about it
I'm starting to see a pattern here

>>715304505
Mine came with Primal Rage, could have been MechWarrior 2 but it didn't have the recommended RAM.

>>715306862
You can also just sell the dumbfire missile over and over but that would be clever use of game mechanics.

>>715307898
Elaborate on what's bad about euroshmups and Raptor in particular.
>inb4 no reply
>inb4 insults
>inb4 Mork

>>715248979
>Rock 'n' Roll, it features a good variety of characters and lets you select which level you want to pick, beating the game with different characters also unlocks different stages you can play in a run.
Just a heads up, Rock 'n' Roll has some issues on AMD GPUs where every background object is glitched.

>>715242742
Not at all. I just think they're cool.

>>715310425
already covered extensively ITT.

>>715313376
Quickly summarize it.

>>715310425
>>715313660
They're janky games that do not follow the traditional game design principles of American and Japanese console and/or arcade games, and for reasons like this tend to be products with mechanics that do not go well with this kind of games, such as poorly balanced shields/life bars for the player's ship, movement with inertia, simple and boring enemies both AI and bullet patterns, no emphasis on a scoring system where you are rewarded for how good you are, etc.
tl;dr: They're shmups made by people who don't know shit about shmups

>>715313892
>do not follow the traditional game design principles of American and Japanese console and/or arcade games
don't need to
>>715313892
>shields/life bars for the player's ship, movement with inertia, simple and boring enemies both AI and bullet patterns
kino certified
>>715313892
>no emphasis on a scoring system
based

Bait used to be edible or something

>>715313003
Nvidiots can't stop winning

>>715313892
>A lot of non-arguments and buzzwords.
You're just parroting what you've read online. Give concrete examples. What games did you play and what did you dislike about them?

Chatgtp make me a muffin

>>715262193
"COTTOn" is a nod to how the characters in the logo are spelt. "COTTON R" is weird though.
>>715313003
That's unfortunate, you could try emulating the Switch version but that's far from ideal.

>>715241440
Yes there is, two of them in fact! Cotton High Tension and Cotton Rock with You. They're both coming out this year, High Tension is coming out this month while RwY is releasing in December.
>High Tension gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/live/UuvA4VMYZQ0?t=14261s
>Rock with You gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/live/aG_Zcdqn6bY?si=toh3nLLdUEv9eIZj&t=6531

>>715315020
Everything he listed is an argument.
>b-but
I accept your concession.

>>715315020
Tyrian is a pretty boring game overall; right from the start, the inertia movement is a dead giveaway, the shield regenerates quite fast, making all the risk of the main game absolutely non-existent. Aside from the painfully simple patterns and hazards, the bullets do not synchronize correctly with the background, giving a rather ugly look when you're moving around, the weapon shop is busted, and engage mode is a poorly designed difficulty where you have to make button combinations to put on weapons and defend yourself with something.
Among the virtues that this game has, I can highlight its beautiful pixelart and this boss https://youtu.be/TiazAACfxPk?si=hDj1XkBEAHAP0rEa&t=7741 that can flip your screen. I honestly don't see any need to play this crappy game and not play something like Strikers 1945 II.

Now tell me reasons why this design philosophy is better than the vast majority of arcade and console shmups made by people who DID play shmups.

>>715316842
>now tell me reasons why this design philosophy is better
Because I'm a stupid fucking american nigger faggot who justs wants to le TURN MY BRAIN OFF so if a game actually requires something out of me thats bad okay???? you STUPID fucking chud!!!

I felt pretty good getting a 1cc on mushi original but then I tried maniac and remembered that I suck at video games and should kill myself

play sonic wings

>>715316842
>right from the start, the inertia movement is a dead giveaway
does not indicate anything.
>the shield regenerates quite fast, making all the risk of the main game absolutely non-existent.
You have never played last the first few missions in the 1st pack.
>Aside from the painfully simple patterns and hazards
It's charming in its own way
> the bullets do not synchronize correctly with the background,
technical skill issues (from the devs)
>the weapon shop is busted
I don't get it. Works fine the last time I played it.
>and engage mode is a poorly designed difficulty where you have to make button combinations to put on weapons and defend yourself with something.
not the main game.

Are you looking forward for Outside's first horizontal danmaku, /v/?
https://twitter.com/Outside_danmaku/status/1943794228712419334