Thread 715237134

I really wanted to play Blue Archive during the Seia Event.

However the Blue Archive Steam client use an anti cheat software called Nexon Game Security (NGS) from Nexon.

For those that don't know, NGS works at Kernel level (also known as Ring 0).

Location:
>C:\ProgramData\Nexon\NGS\NGService.exe
>sc query state=all | find "NGS"
>sc query state=all | find "Nexon"

Here's an excerpt from Nexon's official website:
>NGS is the new anti hack security application from Nexon
>NGS while running, will scan, log, and send notes about any action the user takes on their system while the application is active.
>This includes recording log IP addresses, workgroups, windows versions, network credentials, hardware, hosts, libraries, current tabs in browsers, windows dialog, files, and more.

Nexon's Data Processing and Security Agreement (NDPSA) explicitly states that:
>We will store any personal data processed in connection with NGS.
>The list of personal information collected (at kernel-level or ring 0) includes:
>End User Personal Data
>Browsing History
>Images files (jpg, png, webp, etc)
>Game account
>Host file
>In-game screen
>System version
>Network type
>CPU architecture
>ROM
>Unique Identifier
>Screen resolution
>System boot time
>Country code and language
>Remaining memory
>Remaining built-in storage space
>External storage space
>Whether root or simulator running
>Application cache directory
>Application package name
>Process name
>Application version
>Startup time

Here's an example of Nexon admitting that they monitor your browsing history:
>We're constantly monitoring sites you have visited, be aware that you could be flagged as 'potential hacker' by our automatic anti-cheat tools.
>Please, understand that actions like logging-in on those sites or even attempting to connect to them using your internet browser may result in serious consequences which can lead to a ban
https://steamcommunity.com/app/273110/discussions/0/490125737460998388/

uoh cunny

gachafags never learn

>>715237214
They didn't disclose the anti cheat until yesterday.

Tiny yellow pecker thread. This is why Asian girls prefer white guys and BWC

>>715237134 (OP)
>We're constantly monitoring sites you have visited
>understand that even attempting to connect to those sites using your internet browser may result in serious consequences which can lead to a ban
Holy shit, this is actual, literal, unironic, unambiguous spyware that they're admitting to using here. How are gachafags gonna defend this one?

Uma Musume wins again

>>715237134 (OP)
thanks friend

>>715237134 (OP)
>still using w*ndows
Just transition to Linux already. Kernel level means nothing through wine/proton, as long as the devs don't actively block it.

>>715237265
Fucking lmao so they didn't tell until after people downloaded it and found out?

>>715237134 (OP)
>>We're constantly monitoring sites you have visited, be aware that you could be flagged as 'potential hacker' by our automatic anti-cheat tools.
>>Please, understand that actions like logging-in on those sites or even attempting to connect to them using your internet browser may result in serious consequences which can lead to a ban
Imagine the sort of shit they see monitoring BAs players

>>715237134 (OP)
Do you have a link? I need proof, as searching these claims on Google just leads back to 4chan.

>>715237134 (OP)
mucho texto and i don't understand any of it therefore it does not exist, simple as

>>715238721
see >>715237278

>>715238970
That's not proof. Link to this "Nexon's Data Processing and Security Agreement". And it appears someone caught you just editing this copypasta for multiple games.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/530072757/#530077835

not a problem on linux lmao
>wintards
not my problem

>>715239541
>wintard
>winslave
What other names and rootkits must we endure, winbros

>>715237134 (OP)
nobody cares shill you retarded subhuman

>>715237134 (OP)
Trying to make people forget your scandal by causing another scandal is certainly an approach

still not playing horse game or pedo game

>>715237134 (OP)
I don't understand how you people get so obsessed with privacy over these anti cheats, who gives a shit they aren't going to do anything bad about it, corporations aren't you enemy states are, and no the states don't need some fucking gacha companys help to track you

>>715237134 (OP)
I really hope microsoft finally implements no kernel fuckery rule soon

>>715237134 (OP)
So you chinese don't want anyone playing anything other than mihomo shit eh?

>>715242039
Are you aware that these friendly and good corporations are selling all this data to governments?

>>715238309
>just transition
heh

>>715242536
i'm sure my eastern european retard government is spending billions to know what lolis i jerk off to

>>715242676
>I-it doesn't count
Every time.

>>715242676
What lolis do you jerk off to?
You'll tell me right, we're friends aren't we?

>>715242676
Why not share all that private data in this thread? It doesn't matter who has it after all.

>>715237813
Thats how all kernel based anti cheats work anon. Gooks for some reason just openly admit to that when they dont have to. Western anti cheats like Vanguard,Ricochet and EasyAntiCheat do same shit. You dont have le anything to le hide, do you anon? As limp wristed redditors would ask.

>>715239541
That's why I was surprised, when I saw it, it didn't have any warning.
>17gb
I never thought a collection of GIFs and PNGs could take up so much space.

Is this even kernel level? I have not been asked once for admin perms when running blue archive, are people lying?

>>715237134 (OP)
I was kinda interested but it isn't even avaible in Germany at all

>>715242039
corporations own states

>>715243078
>>715243197
Kanna
Klee
Konata
Now go ahead and show me ads based on these lolis, that's all that data is sold for

>>715243957
It is.I was starting to enjoy the game too uwu.
I would just play using emulator but nexon made ghost accounts for steam users which can't be linked to proper nexon account.

>>715237815
kernel level anti-cheat is standard across all gachas.

Sex with 15 years old

>>715237134 (OP)
>requires manual removal after game uninstall
And there are still people who accept this without complaint.

>>715237134 (OP)
>This was called once the "FGO killer" by koreans
>The only thing they managed to kill was their own side-game, and now kill themselves out of steam
What a sad state of affairs

>>715237134 (OP)
For me the game did never start. So i uninstalled and move on to other games.

>>715237134 (OP)
Welp, i'm staying on my phone.

>>715237134 (OP)
>genshin uses mhyprot2
>uma uses crackproof
>wuwa uses ACE
Every popular gacha in the market uses kernel level anticheat

>>715237134 (OP)
Just tell me you want my Junior Idol collection, Nexon.

>>715239090
aint no way

>>715237813
The secret is most anti-cheats are this invasive, and modern single player games will try to spy on you through various means. Companies will do anything it takes to get your information. Your gaming habits need to be kept separate from anything truly personal.

>>715244082
Retard.

Oh no they might find out that I spend all day refreshing /b/, /v/, and /x/ while browing rule34 and pornhub. They might find out my favorite kind of porn. My heckin privacy
>this is what these fags are worried about

>>715243957
Yes, but all it seemed to do was install it, it's not actually running when I boot the game. A similar thing happened with GFL2, it has NetEase Protect in the game's directory but doesn't do anything with it.

>>715237134 (OP)
Of course. Cheatniggers ruin every-game with online.
Get used to it.

>>715242536
Im sure the data of 4chan is being sold to Israel so why you care about Korea?

>>715248416
kek this, anyone browsing this cesspit (that bans vpns) and complaining about kernel level software and data privacy is a fucking moron

>>715239090
The vg schizo despises Koreans for some reason so it's not surprising he's going after Nikke too
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tnum/715142241/deleted/deleted/
https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/boards/v.vg/text/%22Astroturfed%20piece%20of%20shit%22/

>>715242536
AI will know everything and about everyone on the internet chud. Who cares if some chink or gook knows it too.

IF YOU'RE ON THE INTERNET, YOU'RE BEING MONITORED IN MORE WAYS THEN ONE! everyone's asking shit to grok and chatgpt, and all that is is free data. everything in this thread is monitored and logged, how else do you think people get banned when they post a nipple?

>>715237134 (OP)
This is why I ended up not trying Blue Archive. I was really looking forward to the PC release and then they pull shit like this
No one in their right mind should play games that harvest this much data

>>715248574
that's mostly shay aka foxcuck, kevinschizo etc. but he's probably not the only spammer
there's a whole hoard of information on him though since he spams multiple generals and has done so for months/years after /gbfg/ buckbroke him
even had a spat with VB at some point when shitting on gfl2
not really about Koreans I think, he's just upset BA gets all the art while whatever he likes gets zilch
https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/boards/v.vg/text/astroturf/
like 8 out of 10 posts talking about astroturfing is him seething at BA
he mostly avatarfags with vegeta now and uses /dbs/ lingo but has been restraining himself janny raped him multiple times the past week
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/platonic%20archive/
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/shay/
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/foxcuck/
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/kevinschizo/
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/ninpressschizo/

>>715237134 (OP)
So just don't cheat and only fap to BA porn? Whats wrong with that?

>>715237134 (OP)
Lol, don't care. They can look at my tabs and BA porn.

>>715237134 (OP)
works on linux so this can't be right

>>715250112
Wait...
Some people actually play BA and don't just masturbate to porn?

So on top of robbing people blind, gacha installs kernel-level rootkits as well? No wonder cybersecurity is a booming field at the moment.

>>715237134 (OP)
I've downloaded it, but not booted it up yet, am I safe?. There was nothing in steam about it having kernel level anti cheat when I downloaded.

>>715250894
Read the thread. It's just an anon bullshitting. >>715239090

>>715250984
No he isn't. I just checked the steam store page, and it now lists the kernel level anti cheat, which was not listed when I downloaded it. I would not have done that if they had the warning from the start. Scummy piece of shit.

>>715251209
he means what it actually does not what it is

>>715238410
they must have a huge cp collection

>>715237134 (OP)
If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

>>715237134 (OP)
Pedophiles won
You lost
Kiss the ring and apologise.

>>715237134 (OP)
>requires manual removal after game uninstall

>muh schizo /vg/ shitpost rivalries
Will you worthless idiots go back to your shitty generals?
Nexon lied and the game installed a rootkit without warning. What they say they do with it is fucking irrelevant. It's also the type that STAYS installed which is double fucking shit.
ANYONE defending this is beyond stupid.

>>715237134 (OP)
>Nexon

>two thousand and twenty five
>people still using windows
???

>>715251778
don't try to reason with gachafags like this, especially not with ba porn addicts because they'll start using their repertory of >le seething and >le seia like the predictable jeets they are

>>715251778
True. I put 10 hours in the Steam version because I thought there was no rootkit. I don't play other gachas because they have rootkits. Or well because they let you know there's a rootkit.

>>715244306
Konata's a JK you dim witted faggot. You have no right to wear the sacred title of lolicon you big fat fake faggot

>>715237134 (OP)
Why do they need fucking ring 0 level security for a single player game?

>>715252183
There's pvp and pve also it's because of the gacha rolling I imagine.

>>715237134 (OP)
Thanks for the info anon. I was going to check the game out at some point but no way I'm doing that now

>>715251778
you realize these threads are made by schizo /vg/ posters
otherwise there wouldn't be a new steamchart/sales thread fucking seething about it every 20 minutes
board has been nothing but for the past week all seething at the game's very existence while Uma threads can have relatively civil discussions
somehow it not being booted off steam pissed someone off

>>715237265
Uh oh stinky
That's a second reason to get banned from steam.

>>715237134 (OP)
fuck almost all multiplayer pc games
just play it on console lol to avoid teh anti cheat

>>715245025
>bully
BA owns /v/, sorry shitskin cuck
We won't be leaving this board anytime soon, cope and dilate
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/hayz8-2LVW5wGdXf4xWshw/

>BA owns /v/, sorry shitskin cuck
>We won't be leaving this board anytime soon, cope and dilate

>>715252356
I don't give a fuck about who made the thread or about your shitty schizo rivalries. It's on the same tier as tendies and their eric
Do you understand I was operating under the assumption it had no rootkit? That means I logged into sensitive shit. I've no way of knowing now what I'll even have to go about changing the password for.
Just because your worthless gachatards are okay with this shit does not mean the rest of us are. I'd not have touched the damn game if I knew.
And on a less important, but still annoying, note, I was now not only invested in the story and characters which aren't bad, I'd gotten both of this week's banners which was pretty cool. Now it's just kind of all wasted as I'll obviously drop the game. Can't even give out the account as it's related to my Steam.

>>BA owns /v/, sorry shitskin cuck
>>We won't be leaving this board anytime soon, cope and dilate

>>715237134 (OP)
You know it means they install the same shit on your phone, right?
Gachaniggers BTFO

>>715237134 (OP)
I dont care if the Korean government is spying on me though

>>715253150
Unless you're running custom OS your phone is a spyware device already.

>>715237134 (OP)
Don't they already check all the data server-side? What's the point of monitoring the players so closely?

Some people are conditioned to be watched to a degree that is insane. They'll even argue that you shouldn't care about your privacy in any capacity. As long as it's a corporation or the government, they will open their assholes wide arguing that if you don't do it you're just doing illegal shit or whatever.
These people deserve more than privacy rights or money taken away from them.

My favourite girls are Rio, Toki, Asuna and Yuuka and I don't even play the game.

>>715237134 (OP)
I searched for this in the the Nexon folder and there was only a laucher folder did you lie?

>>715253124
pag archive xisters...we've been exposed....

>>715237134 (OP)
>schizo babble at it again lol

>>715237134 (OP)
kunny level anti-cheat ToT

im a new player, will i make it to 200 in time?

>>715256061
skip everything NOW

>>715237134 (OP)
it closes when the game closes, no actual drama here. uninstall is as simple as deleting the exe.

>>715256061
do the story and momos

>>715256061
we're getting another 20 free rolls later today

>>715252957
You still play gacha, you still reek of shit hypocrite, get the fuck out of here disingenuous troon.

>>715253124
KEK, BAfags do be looking like that

>>715256582
we get 40 more free rolls total right? So I just have to get ~4800 pryox before reset on Monday?

>>715256654
First gacha I ever touched, and I got fucked for it. Lesson learned.
Still hilarious watching you fags defend this over /vg/ tribalism

>>715256878
pretty sure yeah

>>715253124
>>715254489
>>715256752
Post hand, brownjeet
Oh wait, you're so ugly your mother abandoned you at birth, lmao

>>715257359
oh boy, chink chang is not gonna let this one slide

>>715237134 (OP)
gachashit does not need anti-cheat

>Post hand, brownjeet
>Oh wait, you're so ugly your mother abandoned you at birth, lmao

>Desktop release was one big honeypot
kek

>>715257125
Cheaters astroturf to make a fuss against anti cheats just like pirates astroturf to make a fuss against denuvo

Why would anyone even play a gacha on pc anyway?

still ban evading foxcuck?

>>715257897
I got rid of my smart phone a while ago

On linux, not my problem. KEK
Linux disables the whole anti cheat system and i can still play.

>>715258106
Does it work for Steam Deck though?

Name my band /v/

>>715258209
https://www.protondb.com/app/3557620?device=steamDeck
>Unity game so works flawlessly, even better than Windows Default controls are perfect, touchscreen controller and touchpads work The only issue is L2Ds and profile pics in Momotalks are not sharp for some reason
Looks like it, yeah.

>>715258213
the pag squad

>>715257997
cygames hires unironically hires indians

>>715258213
Me on bottom right

>>715237134 (OP)
ok

>>715258213
BA ''Special'' Cyber Defence Division

>>715237134 (OP)
>breaking news, nexon using its in-house anti-cheat

Just go to /e/ if you want to look at sexy anime.

>>715258209
I dont know but I’m playing honse pussy on steam deck and just works, havent tried on my nobara desktop tho

>>715250246
after the crowdstrike incident nexon neutered NGS and because of that all their games can be played on linux.

>>715257897
Games on the phone are shit.
Heck BA plays way better on PC from what I've experienced. Even just installing the damn thing and grabbing webview stuff was a pain.

>>715238309
Wait, so you can cheat easier from Linux? nice.

>>715256061
If you want Seia that bad you should have rerolled for her. The next banner is even more important. You really should start over until you get her in your starting rolls.

>>715237134 (OP)
Does it run even when the game is not open? I remember genshin getting a lot of shit for doing that before changing it

>>715245096
Are you supposed to see them?
I cant find them

>>715237214
>>715238309
>>715262145
>ThEy NeVeR lEaRn
>Steam does the exact same thing
You people are the problem

>>715262145
it doesn't

>>715237134 (OP)
>>End User Personal Data
>>Browsing History
>>Images files (jpg, png, webp, etc)
Excuse me? You think I'm going to super-hack the servers with a picture?

Why do I feel this is really about selling data?

>>715265091
it's entirely made up, the entire list is copied from another game

A have a standalone windows install on a external SSD for games like this.
Takes seconds to launch a VM on Linux or just booting directly to it.

someone make a real thread, want to post my free rolls later

>>715266442
the pinktard thread is right there

>>715266597
i see i hate incognito threads

>>715266643
it has a pretty recognizable character in the OP
just because it doesn't have the title in the OP it isn't incognito

>>715257778
more like it's linux troons scared that the anti cheat will scan their cp

>>715239090
>>715248574
THIS SCHIZO IS THIS BUCKBROKEN BY KOREANS KEKAROOOOOO

Genuinely asking, why should I play Blue Archive when there's something better? Like Wuwa or Genshin for example.

>>715268446
it's closer to an auto battler than an action game like wuwa and genshin so if that's your cup of tea

bump for onions OP

>>715266152
If the game has root access you're still boned with the first method, just use the VM.
>>715265326
All rootkits can do that sort of shit. A EULA has no impact on what it can or can't do, and again they did not divulge it was even there.

>>715268446
>i want to play an actual game that happens to be a gacha
p5x, i'll take your word for it that wuwa and genshin are actual games because i havent played wuwa and last time i played genshin it was pure dogshit
>i want to play hot girl collecting simulator with minimal friction so i can get more hot girls
blue archive

basically, different categories of gacha

>>715237134 (OP)
So install an android emulator and just play it.

>>715270130
This

>>715248574
He is a nintendie, mad that Korean and chink gachas are more popular here than his agp Nintendo threads

I'm not sure what you're expecting from a game where all data is server-side