americans obsessed with EU directives?

Like, how does it affect you, personally?

>>715299061 (OP)
Left is a worthless platitude spouted by brainlets.

Right is harsh reality.

domino effect

thats why nobodys allowed to be communist

>>715299061 (OP)
The plan is to make world union. If you though European union is bad, then you've no idea

>>>/pol/

>>715299061 (OP)
>big daddy gubment interfering with your life is good actually

It worked with usb-c.
I hope it will work with games.

>>715299061 (OP)
Because the directive covers how games function and are sold in such a way that the changes made by developers and publishers to satisfy EU regulations will also benefit Americans, much like how digital refunds becoming a thing due to EU law also allowed Americans to request refunds.
Retard.

>>715299061 (OP)
As the literally biggest market for video games out there, we acknowledge that the EU is at least somewhere on the third place pedestal, which means that if you guys force video game publishers to not pull this always-online GAAS bullshit they probably will cut it out globally. They aren't going to make a "Europe-friendly" version of the same game, because that's too much effort to design and maintain.

Just be glad you're actually important in the industry for a change.

>>715299061 (OP)
Because corps cater to the lowest denominator to save on costs
Half the reason why modern cars are so huge and ugly is because euros for some think reducing the damage they do colliding with a PEDESTRIAN is worth making every front end tall and flat
the other reason is the US's CAFE regulations being pants on head tier retard.

They don't want you to own anything. They're shitting their pants on how fast SKG is now gaining support. They're trying to turn this into another gamergate and I'm afraid it's actually working.
Game journalists are making Asmongold and Pewdiepie the face of the SKG movement.
>Many developers are now urging #StopKillingGames organizers to take a firmer stance against hate groups and clarify the movement’s values. “Preservation without protection is meaningless,” said Aviv Salinas, co-creator of Blood Nova. “We need to preserve games and the people who make them.”
>As the campaign approaches legislative milestones, its ability to remain inclusive and principled will determine whether it becomes a force for good or another flashpoint in gaming’s long-running culture wars.
That article is a load of fucking sjw sludge.
They're really playing dirty now, how the fuck do we stop them?

>>715299061 (OP)
because developers of anything find it cheaper to change everything for the whole globe rather than just do one thing differently for the EU. If the EU forces a change, it gets a change for the whole world.

>>715299485
sorry about your fatherlessness, but you don't have to project it onto others

>>715299485
Companies interfering with your life is more important, right? God, you guys would side with corporations if it means sticking to the government.

>>715299934
>Dexerto
I don't even know who that is

>>715299061 (OP)
So are British and a boatload of Europeans who I met who have signed this thing. Take your divisive attack elsewhere.

>>715299061 (OP)
The same reasons every other country in the world is obsessed with the USA: we set an example for others to follow. If Europoor gamers get consumer rights, then companies will give everyone consumer rights.
And thankfully, the EU is slightly less corrupt than the US government, so we might actually get what we want.

>>715300168
Their fucking articles always spread like wildfire on Twitter.

>>715299485
Yet you keep extending the Patroit Act.

>>715299485
How is the government giving you more rights a bad thing?
How does that corporate lobbyist cock taste?

>>715299485
>your life
No, not your life, they're interfering with the greed of the companies, which I guess could be "your life" if you were the one running them.

>>715300402
>they've paid bots and shills, i just HAVE to talk about them
unpaid shill go home

>>715299934
People read fuckall articles like that nowadays, least of all gamers. Just keep spreading the word, actual people who vote matter a whole lotta more than any "impression" you can achieve with money and lobbying articles.

>>715299485
I don't run a multimillion dollar conglomerate. If anything those conglomerates have taken away my right to own the things I buy. This actually gives my rights back to me.

The gaming industry just laid off tens of thousands of jobs this year alone, it's not in a good state at the moment. This movement is just another kick in the teeth while they're already down.
These demands are absolutely unrealistic and are impossible especially for indies to implement.
It will also have other unforeseen consequences like increased inflation and a possible collapse of the industry.

>LEAVE THE BILLION DOLLAR COPORATIONS ALONE

>>715299061 (OP)
Stfu thirdie

Personally, I am in favor of violence.

Why are they trying so fucking hard to turn SKG into another Gamergate?

Off topic eceleb threads should be reported to the mods.

>>715300949
demonic pos

>>715300937
Because that's the last remotely relevant thing the gaming press still remembers. They've been basically useless since, with nothing happening in that space.

>>715299485
Yeah, bro, this is the hill to die on for government interference

>>715299061 (OP)
Because it’s our companies that get coerced by your anti business bullshit and you know that retard

>>715300937
Because GamerGate won

>>715300937
Who is that ESL retard, what is he trying to say, and why should I give a shit?

>>715300937
Killing all live-service games is perfectly reasonable
jpeg casinos should have been litigated out of existence on day 1

>>715300937
It's because people who they hate support SKG, so they think they should hate it instead because they're incapable of thinking for themselves. These people would condemn water and oxygen if they saw Hitler drinking or breathing.

>>715301053
EVERY hill has to be fought for against government take over otherwise they WILL insidiously gain the ability to dictate every aspect of your life. They will make you eat the bugs they will make you live in a closet and they will make you troon and you just want to take it

>>715299061 (OP)
games arent gonna make different decisions in different regions. thats too much work. theyll give us the eu cumpliant games

>>715300937

>>715300767
This.

>>715301374
It's incredibly funny seeing the left, who calls themselves anticapitalist and anti establishment fall for every single one of their tricks time and time again.
We can already see the context shift happen in real time, it's so fucking sad.

>>715301374
Who is that tranny and why should I give a shit?

Anyone else in EU have their yt search results censored for SKG? The original videos are the only ones that come up now, same treatment as other censored terms where if you sort by upload the actual results come up.

>>715299485
sadly until power is returned to the people (never) the best we can do is manipulate government into maybe benefitting us

>>715300767
>I don't run a multimillion dollar conglomerate
Why not?

>>715301626
I don't mainline baby blood or worship Moloch.

>>715299485
really riled up the yuropoors with this
and they have the gall to call people bootlickers lmao

>>715301374
>just saying it spells of something bad. it's suspicious
Says the tranny with an open surgical wound between their legs.

>>715300937
Maybe Valve and its employees really were right along in shutting the fuck up. Otherwise you get shit like this

>>715301772
>i don't do it so everybody who does should be punished
nword crab-in-a-bucket mentality

>>715301979
Forcing them to respect my rights as a consumer is punishing them?
Good. I hope it hurts.

>>715302229
>yes i am aware the publisher can shut down the servers at any moment
>yes i still buy the product of this publisher i hate
>yes i will act surprised when the inevitable happens
like suing the tobacco industry for "giving" you lung cancer after smoking five packs a day

For those who think gaming journalists have no power, look at how this media shitshow single-handedly killed Splitgate 2.

>>715302608
Boo hoo, how fucking sad.
QQ moar, faggot. Fuck corpus and fuck you. This isn't some sort of debate.

The funniest thing to me is that everyone bitching about it are part of those jackasses who shit up every GDC pretending to be devs because "I worked on the UX", "I manage the community", "i'm a game journalist".
Meanwhile talking with actual game programmers no one gives a shit because they either don't work on live service shit or they consider it a trivial amount of work to stub the server architecture code.

>>715299485
I just want live service games to die

>>715300850
>a possible collapse of the industry.
stop, I already signed for skg. It all needs to come down for a reset.

>>715302794
Giving more power to governments will solve all our issues.

>>715299061 (OP)
Much like how California is large and economically powerful enough to dictate US standards through state regulations, Europe is a large enough market that any standard they set has potential to be beneficial to someone living in the US or Japan.

>>715302791
the fact that he thought it was a good idea to go out in this hat in June was insane to me
it may be the single worst time in human history to wear an ironic maga hat

>>715302608
Many did, successfully, because the tobacco companies were deceptive about the health consequences of smoking, just like how game companies are being deceptive about what it means to "buy" and "own" a game.

>>715301374
>no dude i don't make it my entire identity or anything at all!!!
>btw my twitter handle includes my mental disorders

>>715301374
i can't even begin to voice by contempt for people that will reject causes simply because the right-wing shares proximity to it

>>715302961
???
>>715302791
No one even knew this game existed, I didn't know it even came out lol.

>>715302909
How are you confusing forcing the government to in turn force companies to not violate our consumer rights as a bad thing? What power is the government gaining that it doesn't already have? You absolute drooling dipshit retard.

>>715302608
>you should smoke because it soothes your nerves and clears your throat!
>soldiers should be given cigarettes to improve their morale and keep them focused!
Tell me you're a child without telling me you're a child, the tobacco industry had the entire medical industry, globally, paid off. It wasn't just a mutt thing, it was an everywhere thing. You picked the worst analogy possible to make.

>>715299962
>sorry about your fatherlessness
says the nog begging the government to fix his problems instead of doing it himself

>>715299061 (OP)
If the devs had to make offline versions of their games for Europe then I could simply play the European version of the game after the shut down the American version's servers.

>>715303264
going out and saying "all shooters are shit," invoking titanfall 3, saying their shooter is based is one thing, very few people are going to have sympathy for that and fewer are going to walk away going "so true"
wearing a joke maga hat when like half of the arena shooter diehards are trannies and even normies largely have a frothing hatred for trump was just ???

>>715302608
False equivalence, retard.
The actual equivalence would be the tobacco industry demanding your lungs because they're filled with their tar.

>>715303597
The initiative doesn't ask for offline versions, stop spreading disinfo.

>>715299485
Do you hebrew-worshipping pseudo-libertarian niggers not understand that just because you tell your government NOT TO HELP YOU, it doesn't mean that it will disappear or stop taking your taxes or stop fucking your kids on its private islands? You HAVE a government. The least you can do is MAKE USE OF IT.
Especially when the alternative is to have corporations as your de facto government.
Free market fags are about as delusional as commies and trannies. It's bewildering to me how you just don't fucking get that there is no such thing as an absolute freedom unless you're the single most powerful being in the entire universe. Unless stopped, someone will get ahead in the "free" market and then make it HIS market.

>>715303648
>normies largely have a frothing hatred for trump
I mean, maybe in your little bubble, somewhere. But that's not really a thing IRL. And again only the most mentally online people even know this game exists so no wonder it dissapeared.

>>715303902
nah, common sentiment at this point, only getting stronger after the last week

>>715299485
Sorry for the demons replying to you arguing in favor of the government bro. I cant and dont want to understand retards who need the government to "live" their lives. You are all slaves, understand and know that.

>mfw Gundam Evolution is becoming playable again because developers left server code in the client, making reverse engineering easier
I'm sad for the games that don't have developers this incompetent. SKG is good for those cases.

>>715300878
That car example is not very accurate, car companies fought tooth and nail so they wouldn't have to install them for higher manufacturing costs on top of safety standard costs.
Government regulations kinda fixed that tho and now you would be insane if you say that it's government overreach and nanny state shit to have seat belt requirements in cars.

>>715304108
what happened last week?

>>715303876
Retards like this. Willing slaves. He wants to be a slave. He cannot imagine life without a government. He cannot manage himself. What a horrific existence

>>715299485
this really hit a spot

>>715300047
>Companies interfering with your life
by you buying a product? what the fuck are you talking about you gigantic fucking retard

>>715304257
>No argument
I accept your concession, corporate tranny.

>>715299962
the government isnt your father

>>715300937
You keep spamming that literal who's tweet nonstop and claiming "they" are trying to make it into gamergate. You are literally participating in it and trying to make this into "us vs them" shit.

>>715299934
Same to you as well.

>>715300047
the only one who can force you to buy something is the govt. you have the choice not to buy things otherwise. in this case the govt is the bigger threat to you

US Legal system is an assraped shitscape
Europe collectively is a joke, but this comes with the benefit that their law MOSTLY hasn't been assraped yet besides shit like being forced to subsidize Doctor Who

Anyone remember Duelyst?
A while back, when the game was unplugged, the devs released the source code to the community so others could keep playing the game.
https://github.com/open-duelyst/duelyst
There are two forks you can play:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2004320/Duelyst_II/
https://duelyst.gg/
The latter being my preferred version.

Not that SKG wants devs to just hand away their games as open source, but it's a notable example and a very respectable one at that.

>>715304230
A negro thinking is also not very accurate.

>>715304473
What's wrong with pointing out the tactics that those fuckers are using? We're literally warning you guys not to fall for their tricks.

>>715300168
It's one of the major news aggregators on Twitter specifically. You will always be seeing their posts in some manner in your feed if you look at video game posts for even a bit of time, same deal with Kira and either the one "Science is awesome" Twitter account or the "Nature is awesome" Twitter account. They're specifically how most people would realistically get news of major things happening in video games if you were a casual viewer of anything regarding video games assuming you browse Twitter at all.

>>715299485
What video was this from again?

SKG fans claim to fight for justice, but there’s no justice in demanding indie devs work for free, release IP, and maintain servers forever. That’s not preservation, it’s exploitation wrapped in gamer entitlement.

>>715305396
Why are you doing this to indie developers?

>>715305396
Thanks, chatGPT

>>715301158
Chet Faliszek, former Valve writer who wrote HL2 Ep1 and 2, L4D, L4D2, TF2, Portal, and Portal 2.

>>715305396
Disinfo, kill yourself immediately after reading this
https://www.stopkillinggames.com/faq

Why the fuck is everyone that supports this shit online some sort of incel-adjacent nazi or chud? Idk, something about this just seems off to me

>>715305396
What indie dev produces a live service game that would be affected? This regulation only applies to AAA companies.

>>715304780
>Doctor Who
Reminder that UK is no longer part of EU, Britbonger analogies no longer apply.
You could've said "subsidized Dustborn"

>>715305702
Why do you hate indie developers?

>>715304967
Template spam helps no one.
Nobody even knows who that person is, nor do they take their opinion seriously.
If you actually have some proof of "them" trying to make this into gamergate then post some, not spam same two-three Twitter screenshots.
I only hear here people being against SKG, nowhere else no matter their political beliefs. Well except the uber capitalists but that's not surprising

:D

>noooooooo i cannot be responsible for my purchasing decisions ToT DADDY GOVERNMENT SAVE MEEEEEE

>>715306582
Boot status: licked

>>715306525
Finally, finns being anti-social has done something right for the world.

>>715306582
corporations are the government now and gamergators are the based resistance. cope liblefturd tranny

>>715306582
Looks like the corpos couldn't be responsible about not being scumbags.

>>715306637
says the faggot being irresponsible with their money

>>715300851
This but unironically. Ancap is the only way for real freedom

>>715306748
Boot status: double licked

>>715299485
Right, we should let corporations interfere instead

>>715300937
They're afraid.

>>715306525
HYVÄ SUOMI!!!

Maldavius FIGTREE

Any unofficial/private server MMOs that get DMCA'd from here-on can point the finger at the supporters of this movement

>>715299061 (OP)
>Like, how does it affect you, personally?
It doesn't, which is why I'm telling you there's no real reason to support this movement at all.

>>715306582
>just don't buy it
How about
>just don't sell it
instead?

>>715306729
I'm surprised that they managed to actually force apple to put usb-c ports on their phones instead of apple getting around the rule by going for pure wireless charging
Sure, it's a gimped cable with only usb 2 speeds instead of usb 3, but at least it's something

>>715299485
Even in a libertarian utopia, the government exists to enforce property rights. At the most basic level, this is enforcing the property rights of the consumer to own the product they paid for.

>>715299061 (OP)
Real Left Wingers want power back in the hands of the people.
Real Right Wingers want corporations to rule over you like the monarchies of old.
The right wing will also spam the shit out of false equivalences and twitter false flags to distract from that fact.

>>715306992
Huh? Why? That would if anything bolster this movement since that's on aspect of what it is trying to achieve: Private servers without fear of DMCA.

>>715300937
Why do you keep spamming this literally who?
>3-0-6

>if you do not 100% commit to this cult-like behavior then you are my enemy
Totally not a cult either btw

>>715299061 (OP)
>Like, how does it affect you, personally?
1. EU directive gets enough traction to affect the law in the EU (for the better, hopefully)
2. industry adapts to this new law
3. industry outside of the EU (this includes NA and JP companies) has to conform to this new law or risk losing their entire market in the EU
tl;dr A law change in the EU affects the whole globe, including clapistan.

>>715307179
YES WHY WOULD THE COMPANY BE PISSED ON LOSING REVENUE TO PRIVATE SERVERS
YOU DUMB FUCKING NIGGER

>>715306582
>*Sells cocaine and heroin to kids*

>>715304721
>>715304437
Companies interfere indirectly by lobbying to dismantle regulations that prevent them from exploiting their workers and enacting anti-consumer terms of service, and "workers" and "consumers" make up almost all of us citizens. They wield the government to their advantage while convincing us we shouldn't try to do the same.

>>715307353
If you're fighting for a corpos right to scam people then you're comically stupid and deserve to be bullied relentleslly

Has a lefty is always fun seeing gamers side with this type of initiative lmao

>>715307539
do you become immune to the effects of cocaine and heroine when you are 17 years and 365 days old?

>>715307535
I think my reading comprehension might need some work then, I thought you meant that the owners of unofficial/private servers that got DMCA'd would point fingers at this movement, not that those owners could use this movement as precedent to keep it up.
"point fingers at" usually means "shift the blame to" in my eyes.

>>715299061 (OP)
it wont affect anyone cause nothing will change
we just love to argue about the current thing

also pirate everything

>>715307702
No but age and drug safety laws are retarded government regulations. Get kids hooked on your products young and they will buy it through their whole life. Limiting your customer base artificially with "regulations" is bad for the market.

>>715299485
Government is what you use when the other solution is pointing a gun.
And as companies will not listen to reason, "voting with your wallet" and will misinform people on purpose, it's government or guns.

Are you all actually retarded?
Big publishers (like take two and Ubisoft) are in the EU
They don’t have to care about US law, if they kill a game that you bought they can do it now in the EU and it will affect your purchases made in the US

>>715307702
you become less retarded
teens do crime like carjacking just for fun

>>715306992
main reason why this will never pass, its all about protecting IP

>>715304257
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE CIVILIZATION

>>715299061 (OP)
>'Improve the industry'
>Actually just force companies to "preserve" random Obama era shovelware no one cared about before it was shutdown.
I don't give a fuck, you are retarded. t. euro

Stupid question but under what principle can a government regulate how a privarte company make a game? What about their artistic visión or some shit they could say

>>715308771
I doubt "artistic vision" was a consideration when Overwatch got replaced with Overwatch 2.

europe we started this and can end it so shut up

>>>Starts feeding his videos to the algorithm in the form of Shorts so that it finally picks him up and shills him everywhere
>Finally gains some measure of popularity on YouTube
>>>Proceeds to show the entire world what an insufferable, narcissistic dipshit jerkass he is in the manner of a year or two

Name a quicker fall from grace than this idiot.

>>715300440
>you

>>715299061 (OP)
If your movement can't draft all the details the politicians who pick it up will, and that idea should terrify you.

>>715308771
It's business practices, not artistic vision.

>>715309192
t. has no idea how parliaments work and draft laws

>>715308872
>>715309247
You can't prove it. It had to be done as part of greater artistic vision. The game is about... Change. Yeah. And about how everything is temporary. Eat shit faggots.

>>715299061 (OP)
True, Just lie down and spread your cheeks for easy access you'll be paying a dollar to reload a mag in no time.

>>715299485
I'm very game for abolishing IP law but we gotta pick things that can be real over fantasies.

>>715309192
I'm actually hoping the industry just pull some self regulation shit, like they did with ESRB/Cero shit.
But they only do that when under the threat of government.

>>715309629
Cool, is there anything in the game itself to suggest that?

>>715309629

>>715304256
Trump's DoJ tried to completely cover up the Epstein affair and shut down the investigation

>>715299061 (OP)
Because we don't respect you because we know what we decide you will follow. We also know you are hypocrites, depending on the US for military strength while living in the luxury of differed defense.

>>715309728
It's dead. Death is often sudden, unexpected. I am the artists and that was my intention all along. u mad nigger?

>>715299934
Once you get retards like this involved your movement is dead

>>715299061 (OP)
The word the creator of this picture should have used is fringe, not "edge".

>>715309782
>tried to
They did.

how did we even jump from "digital storefronts will make gaming cheaper" to whatever hell is going on?

>>715310158
Don't you guys have phones?

>>715309134
The first time I saw his videos I felt something was off about the way he spoke but I couldnt put it into the words. Then I found out he's a furry, and it all made perfect sense. Why are all furries complete narcissists?

>>715303876
you don't understand
having lead in the gasoline is a good thing actually

>>715310570
>He's a furry
Just because he owns ferrets?

>>715299485
Every single part of your current existence is thanks to the government.

>>715300937
Because they want it to succeed so publishers get a safety net for putting out exploitive shit GaaS scams.

>>715310705
Look up Maldavius Figtree, his fursona.

>>715310705
No, he is a legit furry.

government shouldn't curtail companies

>>715299061 (OP)
steam frequently globally applies any EU requirements.

>>715310705
His entire history of being a creator of furry content in second life.

>>715304469
My father is a state congressman, so technically yes.

>>715299061 (OP)

Has Miyazaki ever done an interview about AC4/4A?
These games + DS1 are THE Miyazaki kinology

>>715299061 (OP)
>>715310898
stop giving pirate basedware the time of day. how long until these threads are finally fucking banned

>>715310840
This doesn't target steam and I doubt valve could force devs to adopt skg demands in this case.

>>715300937
Because the culture war is forever. They will cling to any fingerhold they see to cause division.

>>715310756
>>715310821
>Youtuber with long black hair is a degenerate furry
Why are they like this?

>>715310705
Other than the maldavius thing, his game basically use fursonas as characters, that get redraw to look less like convention furries on the sprites, but the "concept art" is shit like this.

>>715310826
How did anyone ever pay attention to Donald Trump's behavior for decades and ever not realize that he's been a criminal his entire life?

Death to America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo_-KoBiBG0

>>715299485
>this bait still gets dozens of replies
you'd think they'd learn by now

>>715311168
we know, we just don't care, i voted for Trump because I knew he'd make life worse for most people and i've got enough money for it to not affect me, the scum losing their medicaid was kino

>>715299061 (OP)
>a european complaining about americans being obsessed
now this is irony

>buys game that is explicitly sold without server files
>gets exactly they paid for
>"i have been scammed"

Are gamers really this retarded?

>>715299485
I'm not a game dev or publisher thoughbeit

>>715311424
>take over auto industry
>makes every car sold on the planet have a bomb that destroy the motor after 2 years of use
>Buy and kill any small company that tries to make a bombless car
>it's free market working as intended!

>>715311424
>strawman combo multiplier
This man's farming retardation.

So when you guys got so left leaning? Are you gonna stop attacking trans people too now, im glad the rational left thinking always win in the end

>>715311830
This the problem with being in a cult. The second one thing doesn't fit then entire thing collapses on your head.

>>715311656
yeah cars always had bombs in them until the jews in the government who love us so much made a law that banned bombs in cars

>>715299485
I like healthcare yes

>>715300414
>the hell knight with a wheelchair
kek

>>715311830
redditors and non whites have to be left leaning cos they both love trannys and raping kids

>>715311830
>So when you guys got so left leaning?
Literal fucking election tourist. 4chan was Leftie atheist central for YEARS on numerous boards until fags started spamming fat kids wearing hats to counter it.

>>715311914
The government will normally just help the auto to put even more bombs in the car unless you specifically bother the fuck out of em until they begrudgingly pass a law to remove the bombs in certain specific cases.

>>715312114
Ive been here for like 5 years maybe? How it was this place before????

>>715299061 (OP)
Americans must bow down and kiss the feet of their corporate overlords. It's mandated by law. And also, a corporation is considered a human being in the U.S. For real.
>>715310826
>>715311168
>>715311353
For me, it's when he said that he would go into the changing rooms of 14 years old pageants while they were changing because he owned the venue.
How there's people who didn't expect he would try to obfuscate the Epstein case is beyond me.

>>715311656
yeah bro knowingly buying a game that doesn't come with server files is just like selling cars with bombs being sold to customers.

There don't even exist any monopolies in the gaming industry. I don't know any industry that has as a barrier of entry as low and as much competition as the gaming industry does. Its almost the ideal textbook example of an extremely competitive free market. There are thousands of games released every year that you can play forever and let you self host. But you probably want tripple A slop made by EA and ubisoft while complaining how evil and woke those companies are.

>>715299061 (OP)
>Like, how does it affect you, personally?
Only retards parrot this line.
Context never fucking matters, only braindead morons say this shit.

>>715312286
americans are jews

>>715299061 (OP)
The most smart move Britain made was Brexit. To this day the European Union was responsible for all sorts of intense soviet style propaganda towards a country that simply wanted to be free from it's collectivist/socialist like shackles. Labeling the leave party as fascists and all sorts of real communist behavior. Which is to be expected from eastern Europe in general. All a bunch of ex soviet republics know is calling people who don't conform as fascists.

>>715312286
He was a well-known illegal drug user for YEARS I constantly heard anecdotes of him and his escapades constantly during his TV show days.

I don't know how he managed to memoryhole all of that shit and get the fucking evangelicals to suck his taint so thoroughly.

>>715312371
The US murdered all the good gaming studios they ever created by allowing massive megacorps to buy small companies left and right.
You don't have real monopolies, but you have 2-3 like minded massive cancers controlling everything.

>>715299061 (OP)
>Like, how does it affect you, personally?
The same way the EU's push for refund policies wound up applying to every Steam user. The EU is a big enough market that if they require a company to make an EoL plan for their product in order to sell in the EU, companies WILL make the EoL rather than not sell in the EU. So if the EU wins, American consumers win, too.

>>715300047
>Companies interfering with your life
you are voluntarily buying their product

>>715299061 (OP)
EU saved me from thundercable hell so I'm riding with them until the day I die

>>715299061 (OP)
Left is pointing out you are fat and starting a discussion about solving it.
Right is a fatty coming up with all sorts of excuse and expecting miracle drugs just so he could avoid exercising.

>>715312603
>evangelicals
you mean jews

>>715300481
regulations "give" rights to you by taking them away from others (e.g. indie developers)

>>715312678
u dont understand i cant not buy the new bing bing wahoo 23 and pedo gook fantasy 41

>>715299485
Libertarian retardation, the gov't SHOULD be enacting policies to protect consumers from greedy corpos.
What a retarded corporate shill take.

>>715312771
True, minimum wage regulations, break time regulations, health and safety regulations, all government interference, therefore bad.

>>715312771
Just like every law ever?

>>715310570
>all
Because those furries who aren't narcissists don't see it fit to build an identity around a glorified aesthetic preference. Therefore you talk to these people without finding out they're furries because for them to announce it would be like saying "Oh, and by the way, me and wife enjoy rape play". It's completely irrelevant in 99.5% of casual conversations.

>>715299485
It's retarded shit like this that makes people realize libertarians are retarded by the way. Yes it is actually good for the government to regulate companies that would otherwise work to destroy every source of joy in the world that doesn't drive them profit.

>>715312942
minimum wage is designed by jews to make you poorer

breaks cos your fat? i dont understand why do u need to be eating that many times a day. fat faggot.

health? how is a law going to make you healthier. stop eating so much u fat retard.

>>715311656
Wrong.
>>take over auto industry
>makes every car sold on the planet have a bomb that destroy the motor after [COMPLETELY RANDOM AMOUNT OF TIME] of use
>Buy and kill any small company that tries to make a bombless car
>it's free market working as intended!

>>715312942
yes, actually

>>715299061 (OP)
Because once a company puts in the tiny amount of effort to make sure a game is still playable, the entire world will be able to still play it.

>>715312620
There are 88k game publishers 95k developers registered at steam. https://vginsights.com/publishers-database
https://vginsights.com/developers-database

Maybe 90% of those are one man indie publishers with a shitty game no one has ever played. So lets be fair and say there are 10k real publishers and 1k put out actually playable games. Now go ahead and explain to me how the gaming industry is controlled by monopolies.

>>715313120
name one regulate that works and isn't meticulously designed by jews to hurt us. (((You))) cant

>>715312286
>>715311168
>>715310826
>>715309782
Given trump had Epstein murdered during his first term. Remember Epstein was being held in a federal lock up, which meant trump controlled it, and the footage of his death was straight up deleted like Nixon's 17 minutes.
How is anyone shocked trump would destroy the Epstein files since his name would be at the top of the list?

>>715311656
is this supposed to be a dunk on capitalism? who is going to buy your cars when you've killed off your entire potential customer base you braindead leftoid

>>715299061 (OP)
It affects them the same way Australia demanding refunds on Steam affected them. In a positive way.

>>715313294
The Clean Water Act, the Federal Water Pollution Control Act of 1948, the amendments in 1972, and the Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement of 1978. Unless you're a retarded fucking Indian nigger that thinks it's perfectly fine and acceptable to dump waste, pollutants, and trash into your natural drinking water, rivers, and lakes. Shut the fuck up.

>>715313294
lead based paint being banned, asbestos being banned

>>715299485
Beats big daddy government stealing your money and giving it to billionaires -model so popular in third world countries.

>>715300937
>look at what this fag at bluesky is posting to nobody
I don't think you're helping with this schizo shit. Take you your meds.

>>715313504
and yet, your country is full of indian niggers and other undesirables who are polluting everything by their very existing. curious

>>715304967
You are not pointing out anything. You have posted this picture more time than people have seen the original tweet. This thing only exists because of you. You are promoting him. He isn't doing shit.

>>715313294
>hurt us
>us
Rich fags aren't "us", Ramjeet.

>>715313518
what if we just don't have the government steal at all?

Strange how America considers Europe 'insignificant' then it's citizens demand they save them from a poor financial decision there own country came up with.. to the point they bypass regional voting restrictions to vote for policy's...

>>715306582
If you don't like it, don't sell it.

>>715313612
Polluting your "brains" rent free, racist piece of shit.

>>715303446
whiter than you, Pablo. post hand and quit projecting.
>>715304469
it is your "daddy", though. your words, not mine.

>>715313612
I'd rather live with all those undesirables rather than a libertarian who thinks it's okay to shit in the floor because the government can't tell him not to

>>715308452
There is nothing IP infringing on not making your game unplayable. BMW still owns their IP even if they can't go to your house and smash the shitbox they just sold you.

>>715313656
It's not stealing, althoughbeit. Private ownership is a social contruct and as such without society and its taxes it ceases to be.

>>715299061 (OP)
EU is a big market and could potentially impact how the US does business. Game devs will have to alter their approach, or bypass the entire EU, which would be stupid. And besides, if they release the serverside code to EU, we'd have it too. So of course we want it to succeed.

>>715313293
Advertising is anti-competitive practice. This is why brands should be abolished, all production should be organised under the government, and goods should be distributed via lottery. No monopoly risk when the consumer doesn't get to decide what to buy.

>>715313506
banning poisonous products isn't a regulation, dumb nigger

>>715308452
This is a non issue. Multiplayer games already exist that allow you to host dedicated servers with no intervention from the publisher.

>Anti-libertarian
Faggot nigger jew mutt detected

>>715299061 (OP)
>americans obsessed with EU directives?
>Like, how does it affect you, personally?
It's not that odd.
Americans have like zero political power over corporations. But Europeans do. And since European political power over corporations can still affect Americans, Americans naturally have a vested interest in European politics. Because we can actually change stuff here.

>>715313757
nobody said you weren't a nigger

>>715306582
You can't make an informed purchasing decision if the company is allowed to lie to you, such as game publisher implying that the game will be accessible forever despite them killing it after a couple of years.

>>715308771
>Stupid question but under what principle can a government regulate how a privarte company make a game?
Under the gold standard of the real world. Violence. They beat you with sticks until you're dead or come along willingly and sit in a cage. It's how every single law works.
>What about their artistic visión or some shit they could say
What do you think Europe is? Try making an artistic holocaust denial game. Jail. Try making a CP game that doesn't have 2077 at the end. Jail. Try making a game that formats everybodies hard drive. Jail. Or a shit ton of money to avoid jail.

>>715313887
>regulations are not regulations
American education at work

>>715299485
If by government interfering with my life, you mean the government interfering with corporations that wish to do nothing but exploit me, then yeah that is good actually.

I hate that mutts are weaponising the EU because their own government isn't commie enough.
The EU power creep is not a good thing. It shouldn't override its nations.

>>715313971
You sure act like one

>>715314061
yeah the jews in the government are going to stop that from happening, definitely

>>715313887
American education strikes again

>>715309629
How do you think the real world works? No officer, I wasn't going 120 in a 60. I was just artistically expressing myself in my land-vessel. That's some sovereign citizen level of thinking you can just magic your way out of having to follow rules thinking.

>>715314060
typical reddit nigger thinks that any random law is a regulation. go become a lawyer and get back to me with ur tiny nigger brained arguments.

>>715314130
We're talking abouy EU, not MIGAland, Sanchez.

>>715314207
Why would I waste time trying to appease someone who wants to fuck kids?

>>715314071
I'm sure if you don't fight for your customer rights the EU will immediately stop doing all the other things you don't like.
Oh wait, that's not how things work. How dumb of you.

>>715314207
Proper malding, holy shit. Utter lolbertarian defeat.

>>715314225
90% of european countries are 90% black niggers like yourself, you have the jews to thank for importing you there

>>715314157
Artist is the ultimate authority on what *his* art is about. He is the cop in this analogy. That's the only "rule"

>>715314130
They've done a pretty decent job at placing restrictions on corporations, yeah. Actually.
We actually have consumer rights and consumer protection laws in Europe.

Improvements can always be made, but governments have indeed fought corporations for the favour of consumers. Many times before. And won.

>>715307539
Nothing wrong with that. It's up to the parents to shield their kids from this.
Both of these should be legal.

>>715314251
im not sure why are u debating yourself in the mirror

>>715306582
But i am. That's why I'm demanding to keep the shit i bought

>>715299485
Not my life, yours. Suffah corpo!

>>715314367
Counter-point: Death of the Author. Art world is filled with fart sniffers who get mad when their art is taken a different way.

>>715314331
U-huh. Did you learn that from PragerU as well, Juan?

>>715314398
name one time government did anything for consumers

>>715314367
As stated, the author can't decide how the artpiece is experienced. Figures yoi knuckledraggers know jack shit about art.

>>715304230
>now you would be insane if you say that it's government overreach and nanny state shit to have seat belt requirements in cars
It absolutely is overreach to ticket lone drivers for not wearing them. Parents should be held responsible for their children's safety, but it's my decision if I want to endanger my own life and revenue-generation for the state isn't gonna change that, only make me angry at the state when a nigger cop charges me $250 for not buckling up in the 700 feet between my house and the post office.

>>715314470
>n-no u
Lolbertarians are the most famous kidfuckers after priests. You should know this.

>>715314774
Just wear the belt, retard.

>>715314563
https://commission.europa.eu/live-work-travel-eu/consumer-rights-and-complaints/50-years-consumer-legislation_en

>>715299740
>They aren't going to make a "Europe-friendly" version of the same game, because that's too much effort to design and maintain.
Most WWII games have a german version that replaces swastikas, and of course the South Park game did this.
Don't forget the fact that the mod removing gay flags from the spiderman game and replacing them with American flags didn't actually change any texture files. It just enabled the middle eastern localization already in the game.
These are minor cosmetic changes though. Maintaining a separate branch with fundamentally different features for important parts of the game would be too much of a pain.

>>715314563
>name one time government did anything for consumers
iPhone usbs

Wait, is this a Europe vs USA thing?

>>715313385
Leftist now are into conspiracy theories?

>>715315101
Trump fucks kids

>>715314061
You're free to buy from stores that let you keep your games, like GOG and itchio.

>>715315101
>MIGA fears the facts
Why'd trump destroy the Epstein list, kid fucker?

>>715315096
Nah, just buckbroken burgers thinking this is bad somehow.

>>715315101
>doesn't remember the "Trump assassination attempt is a falseflag" left schizo theory

>>715315217
I am and I do.
But I also think that you shouldn't be allowed to sell a licence to play a game under the guise of selling a game, that you're also going to kill and make useless at an undisclosed time in the future.

And you can cry about it. But I'll enjoy my freedoms while also fight against corporations trying to scam me or even fight them for producing shit products needlessly.

>>715315167
based loli enjoyer
I voted for this

>>715313881
>Game devs will have to alter their approach
You don't mean devs. Devs don't decide shit anymore. Their parent companies tell them what kind of game they're going to make and what business model it will be based on.

we and you call lobbying bribing in third world. why the double standard?

>>715315406
To be fair, the 2nd 'attempt' was clearly faked, unless people can explain how a guy was sitting in the bushes 9 hours in advance of a golf visit that only was planned and happened 3 hours before it occurred.

>>715300402
>>715299934
dexerto is a gossip blog for twitch/youtube streamers, usually low quality. They aren't a part of any movement.

>>715314535
You can "take" it up the ass for all I care. Doesn't matter.
In the end it exists in the form it does because of artist's will and vision, and only that. The author will always be there.
>>715314720
Artist made it. You can "experience" it any way you want but it doesn't matter as far as what it's *ment* to be goes.

>>715315101
Lefties were the conspiracy theorists for much of the 20th century because the US was inherently right-coded by being the opposition to the commies in the cold war. Righties became the theorists as lefties took power in the neoliberal world order after the cold war. But now vibes are shifting globally again, righties take the helm again as the world is sliding into disorder, so lefties are back to being the opposition full of crackpot theorists.

>>715299485
>land has laws that protect people from basic bs
>THE GOVERNMENT IS INTERFERING!!!!!
97 IQ moment.

>>715310898
>>715310975
He's too much fun to dunk on. He just keeps doubling down. He's the most out of touch narcissist I've ever seen. He's absolutely convinced of his own infallibility, but at the same time seems to have no idea of how others perceive him and what they have access too.
He recently said he never talks about his time at Blizzard lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y03L5KlXDLg

And that comes just days after saying on livestream that he updates his game every month, while showing the update page on screen that proves that he doesn't.

>>715300937
>6 likes

That's nothing. The more you make SKG about random retards on twitter, the more you sabotage it. Keep the hate on people like Pirate software and Asmongold (for initially supporting Pirate until he had to talk shit too).

>>715315806
You do realize the people spamming that and trying to poison the well are SKG antis, right?

>>715310705
He has a ferret fursona, he engages in sexual furry roleplay with his orbitors. He conveniently owns a ferret rescue and many of them die of "cancer" within 1 week. Doesn't take much to figure out what he does to them.

>>715314774
Im sorry you got a ticket once but try not to be a retard next time

>>715301374
Wtf how many people does she know that own kiwifarms?

>>715315490
Well, the point is somebody behind the scenes will have to plan for end-of-life sunsetting of games should this get in the door. Whether that's the studio or their publisher, it only matters that the customers aren't bent over the table with their purchase.
Even a parent company won't have to change their plans for what kind of game they want to make. They just won't be able to snatch it away from players when they want to pull the plug.

>>715310705
No, because of his entire internet history in which he is a furry. His character Maldavius Figtree, his time making furry avatars in Second Life, his leaked DMs of furry roleplay...we could go on.
>>715316007
Don't forget to mention he had a terracotta lawn gnome in his bathroom which had a very strange discolouration at the tip of the hat. Almost as if it had been up someone's ass. Curious.

the same retards hanging off every word of e-celebs are the ones tying their entire identity and self-worth to a political party. be better

>anti-SKG shills devolve into lies, racism and namecalling
lol

>>715316338
Projection is strong with this one.

>>715316007
Jimmy Saville did the same thing in UK, doing charity stuff and then fucking them, except with kids. Pirateman is the Jimmy Saville of ferrets.

>>715316451
only a mutt would be that triggered by a simple fact

>>715316007
ferrets were oom

>>715315443
I agree that corporations should fully disclose they are not selling you a game but a license, and that it should be clear to the consumer, mostly on a basic transparency basis all products should have.

I don't agree it's the government's business to mandate how anyone sells products as long as they are clear about the transaction and don't deliberately inconvenience or harm consumers avoiding it.

As long as companies like Steam and Epic are upfront about the deal they're selling and don't try to maliciously screw competitors like GOG and itchio with anti-competitive practices then the choice should befall in the costumers.

>>715316363
I thought you "grew up on 4chan" maldy

>>715301461
When they say "anticapitalist" they mean anti you owning stuff. The international megacorp is not only good, but their ideal state. They aren't opposed to vast luxury, and having the entertainment commissar living in a ten story mansion, and breaking into your one room apartment to steal your one video game to marginally improve his profitability.

>>715316650
>I agree that corporations should fully disclose they are not selling you a game but a license, and that it should be clear to the consumer, mostly on a basic transparency basis all products should have.
To be in line with other "services" they would have to tell you when access to the service ends.
>I don't agree it's the government's business to mandate how anyone sells products as long as they are clear about the transaction and don't deliberately inconvenience or harm consumers avoiding it.
Then you're a fucking retard or concern troll.
The government already governs consumer contracts in every western country. That law favors the corporations, and now consumers are using the process so that the law favors consumers instead.
Your faggy lolbertarian larp would be way more convincing if it weren't for the fact the beliefs you claim to espouse only seem to come up when its the consumers that want laws to benefit them. When the laws benefit corporations over consumers, you're fine with it. Very suspicious.

>>715299061 (OP)
It is amazing how these guys are like yin and yang of eachother.

>>715316650
They already did this with books in the us. Letting jews steal shit they sold you isn't free market activity, it's theft. This sort of thing is the primary purpose of Government.

>>715317061
>>715301461
That's libertarianism though.
They're the ones fighting tooth and nail against SKG as well.

>>715316650
>as long as they are clear about the transaction
That's exactly what SKG is focused on.

Are the players buying a perpetual license or a temporary one?
If it's temporary, then that should be clear when bought following standard practices that means an expected date of termination or a minimum viability period being presented.
If its a perpetual one then it should actually be perpetual

>>715299061 (OP)
Companies must comply with the EU market, thus any directive changes affect everyone.

>>715304851
>the devs released the source code to the community so others could keep playing the game.
My favorite is when one of the developers gets pissed off at a company shutting shit down and just leaks server files and documentation, Tera being the most recent one I can think of that filled me with joy.

>>715299485
>samuel hydeburg poster
>mentally retarded

>>715317334
>They're the ones fighting tooth and nail against SKG as well
They're not, it's just a concern troll in these threads who jerks off every time he gets a (You).
Already addressed this here >>715317104

>>715317104
>they would have to tell you when access to the service ends.

>this purchase grants you access to the game for 1 month
>get 12 months access for the price of 10!

every game is now a subscription service or you have to subscribe to 200 different gamepass for every company

>>715317371
No you've got this wrong. It's not between a temporary and perpetual license, it's between ownership and license.
It's only a license because they are licensing you to access their servers, which is where everything about the game is hosted.
If they had to make their games work offline, or allow for private server hosting after the game is no longer supported, they aren't licensing anything. It's just ownership of the game

>>715317334
Property rights are literally the only thing libertarians want the government to enforce. You have this totally inversed.

The World Economic Forum put out the "You will own nothing, and you will be happy" stuff, and they haven't had a non-marxist economist on a panel in decades.

>>715315691
If what the artist makes is outside the law, then the artist will go to jail or be fined. I'm pretty sure if someone began killing and playing people to wear their skins as an artistic statement (one serial killer did that), his claims to it being art did not stop him from being imprisoned. The more you know.

>>715317492
Yeah, maybe. And what? People would probably be less willing to pay $80 up front for a game if it only granted them 1 month of access.

But SKG is actually about forcing companies to have end of life plans for games. Offline mode, private server hosting etc. If that went into law games companies couldn't skirt around it by making a subscription service.

>>715313294
The banning of CFCs saved the Ozone.

>>715299485
americans are very well domesticated it seems

>>715299485
Literally actually kill yourself

>>715299485

>>715317608
>>715317403
>Implying the rights of corporations aren't more important in their clown world.
Stop trolling.

>>715317540
> It's just ownership of the game
Is it?
I was under the impression that if it was ownership then there'd be no issue with making money of the material.
Just like how you can't buy a movie and then turn it into a business by charging people to watch it.

>It's only a license because they are licensing you to access their server
But it's a license even if a game is completely offline?
The software is what's being licensed on every game.

>>715317371
All software, unless it's sub fee stuff, sells you a perpetual license, that is stated in both Amerian and European law. If a game is not a sub-fee based service, revoking your perpetual license without reimbursement is illegal. Yes, it is illegal, even if your license was revoked because you shouted "NIGGER" in an online multiplayer match of a coop game and were reported for it. We wouldn't need SKG if companies didn't violate this law constantly. The government is not going to prosecute Ubisoft for taking away your copy of The Crew unless you press them for it and the average Joe hasn't got the money to sue them over it and win. That way, by committing constant, seemingly minor illegal actions they have amassed fortunes.

>>715317540
>It's only a license because they are licensing you to access their servers,
Incorrect, evasive rhetoric. It is a license to your copy of software whose intellectual property you do not possess. Access or lack of access to the server is completely irrelevant.
>If they had to make their games work offline, or allow for private server hosting after the game is no longer supported, they aren't licensing anything. It's just ownership of the game
Incorrect, you don't own the game, you own a perpetual license to use the copy of the software you purchased.

>>715317947
Ah yes, the Libertarian icon Charles Schwab, and their rallying cry "We will own nothing, and be happy."

They literally decry a corporation as a artificial government construction to shield favored cronies from liability.

>>715317612
But it's not illegal. There is no law, there is no precedent. They already made and 'killed' overwatch/that stupid ubisoft car game and nothing happened, you even agreed on it in the Eula.
I hope EU won't commit this rape on freedom of expression but we'll see

>>715318408
Yup, because libertarians want corporations to replace the government because the alternative is some magical power vacuum that's never filled. And that's more delusional than communism and the free market.

>>715299485
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism?useskin=vector

>>715307734
You're not wrong.
Private servers already get taken down as it is and with the success of SKG they could not be targeted by companies that abandon the game. As of now they do get targeted even when official is long dead.

>>715299485
this just let me rape

>>715299061 (OP)
EU directives are why my iphone uses the charger it does.

Seems like it makes a difference.

>>715318494
>and nothing happened
Clearly something is happening, since the likes of you inhabit these threads 24/7

>>715317947
Oh the corporations that tell you that you will own nothing and be happy? The corporations that constantly put tranny shit in games and other media? That's the side you want to claim to be on while larping as le heckin based lolbertarian?
You're not very good at this.

>>715318062
I have no idea what rabbit hole you're going down here. When you purchased a game disk back in the day, you owned the disk and the software on it. If you wanted to get together with other people who owned the disk and have a LAN party, there's literally nothing any company could do about it- back then the thought hadn't even crossed their minds.

The situation hasn't changed just because games are online and corporations keep telling you it's a license. You can own the games you buy, stop letting them poison your mind.

>>715318196
>. It is a license to your copy of software whose intellectual property you do not possess
Nope, see above.
>you don't own the game, you own a perpetual license
Accurate summation of how you wished it worked, corporate stooge.

>>715318408
You're thinking of Klaus Schwab btw