New mass effect is coming. What are your predictions on companion equivalent of pic related? Race? Background?

Andromeda flopped, they have to get ME4 right or Bioware is toast. I don't think they'll introduce such an abomination as Taash.

it's going to be another dumpster fire


My dream mass effect spinoff is where you can be a Turian and have an Elcor companion

It won't matter. they'll show a trailer, it'll be woke, chudda won't buy, and the people who made it will cry. But in the end, it doesn't matter. because at the end of the week after it's release, no will care except the playercount
I'm tired of this screenplay desu..

So.. I'm non buynary

>>715370932
>Bioware is toast
Government or money firms will gladly help

>>715370932
You repeat that after each of their failure. Veilguard was bad and didn't turn out profit but they still keep Bioware around. I guess ME4 will be full of slop and will fail but Bioware will keep on. It's a real mystery.

Im already writing it off as trash. I have zero expectations that they will make it semi decent

>>715372327
I'll just enjoy all the memes like Taash writing in Veilguard.

>>715372327
It’s copium for em. What’s more easy to live with for these retards?
>Telling them that the entire future of their beloved company has gone to shit and will never amount to anything ever again
Or….
>Keeping that retarded hope alive that they’ll somehow make a decent game again

>>715372101
Im tired of corporations with hiring faggot liberal arts students and making soulless sequel slop

I really want another space-exploring adventure with Shep and his squad, bros

Shep’s story is over. Just let it fucking die please. Let BioWare die too

>>715372804
You will get that but there will be a queen companion, a trans companion, a fag and a genderbender turian.

>>715372947
Queer not queen

>>715370707 (OP)
Since I'll never buy another bioware game anyways, I hope they double down on the woke crap and make it all about gender identity all over again. I want to see the trainwreck. I want to watch Bioware burn itself down.

>>715372804
sheps trilogy is over
I just want another mass effect game that tries to be a different but is also an rpg maybe a space pirate simulator there's no much potential within the world building in that game. I wanna be a Turian or Elcor ffs

>>715373032
Don't forget all the bad animation. I hope there will be tons of them with ultra cringe dialogue.

>>715370932
>they have to get ME4 right or Bioware is toast.
>I don't think they'll introduce such an abomination as Taash.
I agree that they have to get ME4 right or bioware is toast and that is why they'll introduce such an abomination as Taash.

>>715370707 (OP)
The old Bioware doesn't exist anymore. The people that worked there before left.
Just make sure this company fails. Don't allow woke leftists to even crawl.

>>715373113
Here's hoping they can eclipse this.

>>715370932
Dreadwolf was their last lifeline before ME5 got announced and they were fucking that up even before it got changed to veilguard. They take the baffling amount of lifelines they've been thrown as a given.
Bioware does not understand the concept of cause and effect, so they'll keep their standards of hilarious incompetence until EA finally snaps.

Can a geth be nonbinary?

>>715370707 (OP)
>What are your predictions
It will suck ass by being safe and gay

>>715370707 (OP)
From the sounds of it EA cleaned fucking house inside of Bioware after Veilguard shit the bed. ME4 is probably going to be one of the most chud-core titles ever made.

>>715370707 (OP)
Can't wait for every "this is a return to form for bioware" article

>>715370707 (OP)
Hopefully this type of writing axed. Trash's writer got fired too and he used to write ME.

>human protagonist
>asari everywhere, constant jerk off to Liara because of course
>safe as fuck
>"Return to form"

>paragon interrupt: reprimand npc about not using a proper pronoun
You know it is gonna happen.

Asari who identifies as male

>>715373869
You're not thinking bioware enough
Paragon interrupt is a reprimand with an over the top thread
Renegade is a punch and a lecture
Doing nothing has a companion shoot them

>>715373316
What’s baffling is you believe they were in danger. Tortanic retards crowed about the game flopping but where fucking wrong and the game was profitable with multiple expansions. Inquisition was goty. Andromeda made a profit, even anthem sold 5 million copies. Veilguard was legit their very first miss. BioWare isnt on a deathbed like you retards think

>>715370932
This is bioware we are talking about. They do not even blame the wokeness for the failure. They have openly stated this.
ME4 will be garbage and flop, they will lay off more people, and bioware will continue on. "Bioware" is not going anywhere. It is a cultural framework they cycle employees in and out of. It is EA's RPG wing, and it will never be shuttered.

>>715374031
Thanks chatgpt, but even taken at their word in an industry of shameless obfuscation, 10 years of hitting the bare minimum is a failure.
Bioware being a rotting ship of theseus even before it got gutted post veilguard should be proof of that.

>>715374025
You are shitposting but there is a real chance of it going down this way.

>>715374073
Bamboo torture all the devs at bioware for implementing this

>>715374073
Can anyone quantify how much of the identity stuff is in the game? I couldn't imagine it is more than 1%, or is the game 100% trannyslop?

>>715374336
>noooooo a 30 year old company has to keep the exact same employees for all 30 years for it to count they aren’t allowed to retire or find more senior positions like normal employees they have to stay static or it doesn’t count
>nooooooo they can’t just win goty that’s the bare minimum they are rotting

>>715374073

>>715374618
It’s like .1% if you don’t want it. Sadly unlike inquisition where you can literally tell sera to fuck off and never see her again taash is a mandatory character but you can just not do it’s quests, in which case there’s like a 30 second awkward scene where another character announces taash is trans but then it never comes back up

>>715374621
>it's completely normal for the entire senior staff to jump ship within a 5 year period, leaving one utterly insane former writer as their only veteran
You should have stuck with asking the chatbot for replies.

>>715374073
Trans people and trans advocates really aren't hiding the grooming aspect anymore, are they?

>>715374031
Sadly, this. Bioware will continue to be around because it proved to EA many times it is valuable.

>>715370707 (OP)
I don't think we're going to get anything nearly as bad as Taash.
The thing about 4chan is they're incredibly ignorant on Veilguard. Literally the only thing you people know about the game is that Taash's "So, I'm non-binary" scene, and I am here to tell you Taash is actually WORSE than you think.
>In general has a terrible voice actress
>Uses tons of modern day lingo and talks like she is from a different game. Examples include things like: "Those guys go hard." or "I'm not drunk, you're drunk!" or saying crap repeatedly (and being the only character to do so) and in general just having a modern vernacular and accent
>Is an outright bully, yet is never called out on it. Constantly belittles Emerick and calls him things he doesn't want to, and when he tells her she ignores him. This is a woman who gets upset when referred to as "she" and not "they." Her hypocrisy is not a part of the story, it is accepted and no one says anything
>Has special magical Qunari powers that are never brought up before the game and come out of nowhere. She is actually so special and secret that her mother had to escape with her and she can breathe fire and is more connected to dragons than anyone else.
>Is sexually aggressive to the point of being uncomfortable. Nearly every other character's romance path feels more PG-13. None of them show nudity or talk about sex much. Taash is the only one who gets naked at the end. She nearly assaults the character after some light flirting on their first meeting, meanwhile every other character has their attempts at soft kissing interrupted like a bad rom-com
>Is mean to her mother who is shockingly understanding. Everyone forgets in that scene where she comes out to her mom the mother is confused more than anything else, and Taash yells at her
>Taash has open fetishistic journal entries regarding her gender and sexuality that are very unusual compared to everyone else.
Taash is on the short list for worst companion in an RPG ever.

>>715374840
Were those people the ones who made shattered steel? Did that include ray and Greg? No? Then fuck off shill.

>>715374764
This really isn't true. The game heavily incentivizes you to complete character's sidequests, making many of them mandatory. You will have to complete Taash's questline and deal with her in every story interaction. It is not just her gender identity, but her modern teenage lingo and bad voice acting that is shoved in your face constantly. I guess if you're STRICTLY talking about the non-binary thing then it is the focus of her storyline predominantly but there are just tons of awkward scenes featuring Taash, like if you're a man and her mom being like "Normally she doesn't go for men".

>>715372327
Veilguard was good if you just skipped all the cringy parts and sales wise it blew your dood bro DOOM release out of the water. Bioware is in fine shape, quit trying to turn this into another TORtanic.

It's gonna be shit and its gonna flop and the journalists are going to call us bigots. Such is the story with modern day AAA gaming.

>>715374618
It's less than most people think.
But way more than you'd hope (if you hope for the best)

>>715375293
Skipping the cringe parts means skipping every cutscene and piece of dialogue. You know, like le wholesome chungus moment of them arguing about how many books to take on the picnic! Or le happy little griffin and le skeleton butler laughing!

DOOM sucks, Veilguard sucks. The difference is that Microsoft has infinite money and decides when DOOM is fucked and Bioware is just fucked.

>>715375292
There is no negative consequence to not doing taashs quest. Taash won’t even die in the final mission

>>715370932
But they already did.

>>715374618
The problem is just the game's writing in general. Stop caring so much about the wokeshit. It is a scapegoat. The entire game is written like ass. People just talk about one scene as if Taash were just a woman it would fix everything. The game is an abortion and that is just the cherry on top of the fetus.

>>715375293
> Veilguard was good if you just skipped all the cringy parts

>>715375508
>Taash won't even die in the final mission
That IS a negative consequence

>>715375298
Return to form.

>>715375482
EA also has infinite money thanks to you retards buying a madden and college football every single year

>>715375508
You have 0 way of knowing that if you play without a guide. The game straight up tells you to complete the character's various side quests and don't pretend like you knew when playing it. Not to mention it is a fucking bioware game, of course you're gonna do them for the rewards and power ups to the characters in general since you have to get them their bond (aka XP) points. Also their deaths depend upon their ME2 style ending where you assign people jobs.

>>715375659
Damn anon you caught me, I'm a fucking madden addict. I bought all the packs until I got a super golden premium ultra mega Steve Young card.

>>715372264
EA is the head honcho and impervious to bankrupcy, bioware is just a name on their portfolio. The old bioware ceased to exist over 10 years ago and another team is wearing its skin, but EA can dissolve the studio at any time if they think their brand doesn't sell anymore.
Then again, i think they're aware they've been labeled the worst company in america for their practices multiple times and are trying not to look too comically evil and refrain from erasing studios like they did back in the early 2000s. That would douse gas on the fire of criticism that's been going on for a while, and EA while protected by the government doesnt want bad publicity either.

>>715375293
>Veilguard was good if you just skipped all the cringy parts
So, all of it?

>>715375659
>gives Fifa fags a pass
Hmmm

>>715375582
>Stop caring so much about the wokeshit. It is a scapegoat
Name one wokeshit game with good writing. You can't, because wokeshit defines badly written slop that was primarily written as propaganda first and entertainment second. You're trying to tell people to ignore the cancer that causes the tumors.

>>715370707 (OP)
Inquisition>Andromeda>>>Veilguard>New Mass Effect

Just kill Bioware at this point.

>>715374073
The game director and lead writer are both trans, what did you expect!?

>>715375678
I didn’t know but I also didn’t care about what happened to taash so I didn’t do the quests and it didn’t affect me. Which is the entire point, don’t like taash don’t spend time with taash it’s that easy. I do dock the game for making taash unavoidable but you can bench it and it’s not constantly in your face unless you choose that like picrel.

>>715375659
Where's the blame for FIFA yuro?

>>715375770
Yeah and soccer tards if you are brown

>>715370707 (OP)
I'M SO HYPED

>>715374073
kino dialogue

>>715375582
>It is a scapegoat. The entire game is written like ass
Those aspects were not written in a vacuum.
The two are related, because the type of bad writing in Veilguard is directly correlated to including that shit.
The toxic positivity is a prime example. Companions never have any meaningful idealogical or personal clashes, with the hilariously ironic exception of taash being a passive aggressive cunt over Emmrich daring not to be a doormat when she dismisses his entire life's calling.

>>715376206
It’s extremely ironic that Taash is the only actively toxic character

>>715375815
I'm telling you that the game's problems are myriad yet the only thing people wanna whine about is Taash. It basically is telling executives "Yeah, actually, the entire game can be written like a D-Grade Marvel flick as long as you don't have a non-binary character in the game" you can still have the entire cast be mystery meat quipping losers who talk like children and need Rook to tell them it is okay to bring books to a picnic or maybe they can talk about their feefees instead of being mildly upset at one another, or there needs to be no darkness or edge or anything.
For you, saying "getting rid of the woke" means X, Y, Z, A, B, and C. EA just hears "don't put Taash in the game" and that is it. The game would be a disaster without Taash. Arguably, it would have been better for all involved if she were not in the game because then there would not be a singular lightning rod to absorb and deflect criticism. Instead of a fight over "CHUDS JUST DON'T WANT A HECKIN' VALID ENB IN THE GAME" or "I AM NON BUY-INARY" it would be "Holy shit this entire game is written so poorly I think the people who wrote it should be charged for grand larceny"

>>715376089
They probably make the most money for EA than madden does.

>>715376395
Probably. It’s just not the first thing that comes to mind

>>715376341
Again, you're telling to ignore the disease that causes the symptoms. Taash is a symptom of an agenda that erodes the quality of the entire game. If you ask these writers would they rather have a good story with no message or a bad story with their political message, they would ALWAYS without exception choose the second option.

The devs can't make a good game because they're too focused on spewing tranny propaganda instead of providing quality entertainment for their customers.

God I can’t wait for papa ea to take BioWare out behind the barn. It’s been a long time coming

Is Taash THE lamest and gayest vidya character of all time? I think he's pretty high on the list.

>>715376598
Keep waiting lmao two more weeks

>>715376629
Nope it’s still Solaire of astora

>>715376395
Definitely. Only americans like football, soccer is worshipped by billions of europeans and third worlders.

>>715376531
You just don't get it. You think that executives (who actually control this shit) understand what is inside of your head. Taash became an anti-meme representing the game to the point that she is all anyone talks about. People have totally forgotten how fucking horrible everything else is. The executives are retards with deep pockets and you need to explain to them, step by step, how poorly written the game is from front to back.
Taash in and of herself is just a symptom of some woketard's self insert, especially given the strange sexual energy that surrounds her and only her. However, Taash is the symptom, not the disease. Taash, if she were just a woman who was rebelling against the Qun for saying she can't be a warrior, would still be bad if she went by she and not xe/xim/they/them/fe/fi/fo/fum. Woketards can't right well, just kicking out all of the bad writers fixes the woke problem right then and there.

So what is Taash actually? Is it a man trying to be a woman or a woman trying to be a man?

>>715376629
Taash is a she, not a he. Calling Taash a he is actually validating the nonsense. Taash in the game is born as a woman, identifies as a man for a bit because she wants to be a warrior, but still kind of wants to be a woman, then becomes non-binary. If you want to call her by her actual sex, it is she.

>>715376815
See: >>715376834

>>715376317
I hate it. You can't tell her off for anything.

>>715376834
>>715376870
Uh ok then got it. How do people come up with this shit?

>>715376762
>Muh executives.
Executives and producers were not there on the writing team. You can fault them for hiring a bunch of baby raping cultists but at the end of the day it was the baby raping cultists that made the game as shitty as it was. Even if you would replace the executives with good ones, those baby raping trannies would still ruin the game.

These trannies are making shitty games for this mystical "modern audience" that doesn't exist beyond 200 mentally ill people in California.

>>715376930
Her writer. She's a self-insert.

>>715376930
Because the writer wanted a weird sexual self insert. Taash is the only person who actually gets something resembling a sex scene. She starts talking about sex the instant you begin flirting with her. Her journal entries have a strange sexual tone. The game has a nudity option and I believe it is only relevant to Taash.
Taash is far and away the strangest companion I have ever seen in an RPG.

>>715376531
He knows that. At this point it's blatant concern trolling, because while Taash and Barving were roundly mocked in every space that allowed it, the places that don't used the rest of the game's writing for target practise. Obnoxious marvel writing is easily the number one complaint about the game outside of here.
The fact that EA took a chainsaw to bioware's writing staf over the game makes it blatantly obvious that they know full well that it's not isolated to a single issue.

>>715376995
No I mean irl. How could your mind be so addled that you are a woman that wants to be a man but also still be a woman? It is giving me a headache even thinking about it

Anyway if ME4 or 5 whatever is good then it's gonna be a great surprise. If it's not, as everyone expects, it's gonna be a ton of memes and laugh materials for months after release. In any case, I can't wait !

>>715376834
Cry about it to your orange nigger chud

>>715377134
I truly hope Bioware returns to form, but I lost hope long ago.

>>715377134
Have you forgotten what the last Mass Effect was like? This Dragon Age was supposed to be the course correction for the company. Instead they doubled down.

>>715376953
Executives control the budget. Executives control who works at the company. I didn't say to get rid of the executives (but that would be nice). I said get rid of the bad writers and the wokeshit would follow. You and I agree that the writers are the problem. You think complaining about Taash will fix the issues due to Taash being the disease. I think saying the writing in general is horrible will get the writers fired, and thus fix issues like Taash going forward.

>>715377101
>Concern trolling
Nigga, I am saying the entire writing staff has to go and that you shouldn't give trannies an out by ONLY complaining about the one character who has some weird gender shit going on because it just allows them to deflect all your criticism. It would be like if all anyone whined about was Davon and then they just said "Oh, it is racists getting mad about the black elf!" (When in reality his a Grey Warden Quirk Chungus who has le heckin' gryphon pet!!!)

>>715377041
He also wrote the super horny Iron Bull in DAI. I think he has some giant people fetish.
.>>715377127
The need to be special

>>715377127
How could you be a high school student but want to be a space marine or hedgehog who runs really fast? Video games are all about being impossible things

>>715370707 (OP)
>MASS EFFECT 4
>Character creator allows surgery scars and theres only body types to choose from
>every female companion going to look like typical Karen from HR
>every male companion going to be ZESTY and horny over your character even if it's male with a beard or an alien blob
It's dead, Jim

>>715377394
Iron Bull was also one of the worst companions in DAI with that retarded FtM tranny. Series is just unsalvageable at this point. I am pissed off that Bioware keeps getting given money to stay open.

>>715377341
>You think complaining about Taash will fix the issues due to Taash being the disease.
Taash is the worst most blatant example. But not the only example, yes.

>>715370707 (OP)
It will be cancelled.

My source: it's been in pre-production for FOUR YEARS. Average is 1-2, meaning they still haven't even started development on the actual game.

You won't see it until at least 2028/2030 at this rate. But keep getting hyped for N7 Day you dipshits!

>>715370707 (OP)
prepare to learn far more than you ever wanted to know about hanar biology and gender roles

>>715377624
You should complain about more of them then. It is not that Taash isn't worth complaining about. It is that every companion sucks. Every villain sucks. Every "conflict" sucks. Every storybeat sucks. Everything sucks. The game sucks. It sucks more than my vacuum cleaner.

>>715370932
You are under the impression that the people creating these games do anything subversive intentionally.

They genuinely believed Veilguard was an incredible game and did not make it with any intention of subverting anything in mind. They are just that deranged that this stuff comes from them being 100% genuine.

The same exact thing will happen with ME4. These developers are protected by unions now and an ideology that's still enjoying cultural primacy, even if suits wanted to, they can't get rid of them that easily.

>>715377656
Cancelling the game would straight up mean closing bioware. We can only hope.

>>715377527
And you’ll remained pissed and never win kek. Intergalactic and Witcher 4 already announced no matter how hard you squeal and wail you won’t get what you want

>>715377341
>Nigga, I am saying the entire writing staff has to go and that you shouldn't give trannies an out by ONLY complaining about the one character who has some weird gender shit going on because it just allows them to deflect all your criticism. It would be like if all anyone whined about was Davon and then they just said "Oh, it is racists getting mad about the black elf!" (When in reality his a Grey Warden Quirk Chungus who has le heckin' gryphon pet!!!)
That IS concern trolling.
Anyone not mentally retarded can spot that taash gets the majority of fire because she's such an excellent summation of what's wrong with the game.
Her dialogue clashes horrible with the tone of the games
She's a revolting hypocrite and the game tries to bat for her
She's obvious self insert fetish bait
She takes a piss on the established lore, even though it would be trivial to accomodate her with Inquisition's own changes
She is the vehicle for current year politics and driven with all the skill of Ray Charles

I'm calling you a concern troll because the alternative is being so fucking stupid that you think anyone could see people bitching about this and immediately dismiss the literal thousands of complaints about all the other aspects of the game.
Might EA try to use it as a public scapegoat? Of fucking course, they've been pulling that shit for a decade. But if you believe they think removing Taash would make the game better because of people shitting on her, you're a moron.

>>715377880
Why would I be mad about Witcher 4 and Intergalactic? I am not interested in either, but both games studios made a lot of money from their last projects. Bioware, as a studio, keeps releasing commercial flops yet is given a money teat to suck onto.

Rook is such an absolute nothing of a main character compared to previous DA MCs its ridiculous.
Like you aren't a guy leading a team of friends on an adventure to save the world, you're their therapist and manager who they barely tolerate and don't invite you to their book clubs.
Even your romance options have more chemistry with each other and other NPCs over you, its like the game is a cuck simulator.

>>715377729
It depends on your definition of subversive. If you mean /pol/schizo white-genocide jewish stuff then no, it is not that. If you mean that they want to subvert traditional characters/roles then yes they absolutely want to do that.

>>715378023
Veilguard is their very first game that didn’t make a profit retard and it still eventually could

>>715378158
Anthem?

>>715378158
>Veilguard is their very first game that didn’t make a profit retard
lmao not him, but you're retarded.

>>715373712
>Trash's writer got fired too
I want to believe
Evidence? Name?

>>715378325
Patrick Weekes. He and his wife got fired after it was stated VG failed to reach 3mil sales.

>>715372327
That isn't strictly true. Publicly and privately EA has always considered Mass Effect to be a bigger, more marketable, and more relevant IP than Dragon Age. They believe that a Sci-fi shooter has more potential money in it than a fantasy RPG. I can see EA having some patience regarding Bioware and banking on ME4. It isn't so much cope as EA executives will probably never greenlight a Dragon Age game again even if ME4 is profitable. If ME4 flops then Bioware is done as ME was the only thing they had.
The EA higherups have a hardon for ME. They think it is their Star Wars, basically.

I find it very suspicious that the mask off bioware white knight mysteriously stops making quick responses when the totally not concern trolling anon got a reply that might require more than 30 seconds to type a response to.

>>715374073
>opt-in for transgender dialogue and options
Next game won't even have an opt out. The masses must be punished for not consuming propaganda.

>>715378796
I just disagree with you, nigga and I am not gonna spend an hour arguing with you. This entire thread is proof enough that the only thing people talk about is Taash because she is the easiest thing to make fun of.
What is easier? Posting a picture of an ugly non-binary dragon hunter or going step by step and explaining how the game lacks conflicts, villains with personality/faces, has no grit or darkness, shits on established lore, etc?

>>715370707 (OP)
Why don't they just shutter bioware and get a new studio to make it?

>>715370707 (OP)
asari troon. I just know the neovaginas at bioware are dilating in anticipation

>>715378971
They did that in Andromeda already

>>715379059
Unless I am mistaken Peebee is just ugly, not a troon.

>>715376531
nu-Saints Row will certainly be remembers of a game of it's time, that's for sure.

>>715379059
nobody played andromeda. They need to do it for real

>>715379104
theres a Asari npc who talks about not being female or whatever.

>>715376953
In the case of Dustborn, being an indie, the writer is the CEO.

>>715378573
I recognize that name - was that the guy who declared that he was now non-binary right before the game came out?

>>715378906
>What is easier? Posting a picture of an ugly non-binary dragon hunter or going step by step and explaining how the game lacks conflicts,
anyone with half a brain see's that shit is obvious just from having half baked tranny characters.

>>715379375
Maybe but he's been non-binary longer than that.

>>715370932
>or Bioware is toast.
At this point its pretty clear they're invincible, no other dev has been allowed to fuck up that many times without being shutdown by EA. This will suck and flop and nothing will happen to them beyond some cuts to staff and switching of directors like it always has.

>>715370707 (OP)
Why is this retarded company not dead yet? EA has killed companies for far less.

>>715379716
EA must like them :)

>>715379779
>:)
This is not a lion, this is me calling you a faggot.

>>715379827
:) and :3 are the only acceptable emotes on 4chan, and one of them is for ragebait.

>>715380039
:^)

>>715380078
That is true :^) is also pretty good

>>715370707 (OP)
I expect it to be so unbelievably dogshit, so much so that it makes andro "my face is tired" meda look like a masterpiece.
Hopefully AAA Gayming industry finally crashes beforehand and it never sees the light of day.
>>715370932
You comically underestimate how much the useful idiot true believer ideological rot is there and how incompetent and clueless the management is to allow it.

>>715374312
>This is bioware we are talking about. They do not even blame the wokeness for the failure. They have openly stated this.
Really EA generally, remember that shitty ultra generic FPS game that replaced guns with magic that acted exactly like guns? They blamed that game failing on the fact it wasn't a live service game. Then there was that EA executive who straight up told people to not buy battlefield 5 if they didn't like that they put a woman with a prosthetic arm in the game and then they were surprised when the game didn't hit sales expectations.
Its like theres a requirement to be completely retarded and out of touch to get hired by EA.

>>715372264
You're thinking of Ubisoft. BioWare doesn't get government money because even when they were a Canadian owned company, they were in Alberta.

>>715379716
Obviously EA approves of the message Bioware is using it's games to send

The sad part is that they still have some talent left, but you can clearly see they are not calling the shots. Someone, for example wrote the few decent lines in the game for Varric, and then they benched him cause some idiot thought he could do better characters than him ...

>>715380480
>they put a woman with a prosthetic arm in the game
Not even as an actual character, just as one of the many customization options for multiplayer.

>>715380681
You wouldn't know that from the reveal trailer.

>>715380480
They make their money off of sports games. This means that Battlefield and Bioware slop can safely be used for their socio-political goals while the money comes in from the sports titles. All that has to happen is a profit of any kind no matter how miniscule. They get a nice ESG boost, tons of people get to have jobs, and they can move the needle ever so slightly in the direction they want.

>>715381228
It was pretty obvious to me that it was the multiplayer what with everyone dying constantly, the medic ignoring the wounded guy, everyone running back and forth, and no sign of a plot.
Still don't get what the fuss was about. It was 2042 that sucked. V even had good single-player campaigns.

>>715379716
It's the only RPG company they still own. Either they are convinced they can turn this around with another Mass Effect (their favorite franchise, Dragon Age was always considered the ugly duck) or they simply don't want to shut down the only company they own that doesn't just make sports game. No idea, but everyone (even the ex-devs) agrees that this is Bioware's last chance.

>>715370707 (OP)
>companion
That should be the main character. No "body type A/B" shit. A pure propaganda MC with only agenda-positive responses (they already do this regardless so...).

>>715382154
People have stopped giving companies the benefit of the doubt. They see dumb shit in a trailer, they assume the worst, then it's on the company to assuage them.
EA instead chose to go full retard rather than downplay it as a cosmetic option.

>>715381306
>This means that Battlefield and Bioware slop can safely be used for their socio-political goals while the money comes in from the sports titles.
Its funny that its turned into this now. Before the agenda became the priority the sports games funded egregious mtx games and general cash grab games, at least they get esg money now I guess.
>>715382154
Its pretty obvious that most people don't want a disabled woman shoved in their face for the lastest historical military shooter.

>>715377665
They already talk like "this one" which is kind of a foundation for some troon shit. But that means they would never use hanar because the goal is to ruin something normal that everyone likes. Then again asari are also like that but they could probably be the target since they were designed to be sex toys for men.

>>715370707 (OP)
I don't think it's going to come out, i'm almost 95% BioWare will suffer more layoffs within the next 6 months that will most assuredly kill Mass Effect 4 and possible end BioWare.

>>715382950
People keep saying EA will keep Bioware no matter what. But EA has a track record of killing studios that don't perform well. So I have no idea where they are getting this from.

>>715383084
Largely because studios have been added to the EA mass grave for better performances than BioWare's been giving. For some reason, EA's been cutting them more slack than most of their acquisitions, either because they value the brand name, or because they don't want to have to buy another RPG developer.

>>715383084
But are there even any people from original bioware there? Buying and killing studios was to kill competition. The competition is dead so why kill bioware when you can just reanimate the corpse with your own people and use its brand?

>>715382751
What agenda does having an attractive woman with a prosthetic arm push?

>>715383341
Ask larry.

>>715383341
Well in context of why people got annoyed at the trailer, the assumption was that the game was pushing a historically revisionist narrative.

>>715383953
>the assumption
That's all it was, my grandma was a peg legged marine on the frontlines so its not revisionism.

>>715383953
>>715384181
When did the game or series ever claim to be historically accurate?

>>715384318
>people must enjoy & buy games with revisionist propaganda because the series didn't claim to be historically accurate
You make such a convincing case, its very strange that the game didn't hit sales expectations.

>>715378730
Well if it was true they would have done a GaaS shooter game with the ME license already. I think the name Bioware will stay they will just fire and hire new people everytime their game fails.

>>715385040
Yeah, I mean, Bioware making a GaaS shooter sounds like a great idea! I wonder why they didn't try that before.

>>715370707 (OP)
Keiari the Asari ex-commando who wants to be a man. Looks like a normal Asari but with a big chin and facial piercings and stupid renaissance fair facepaint. Cue cutscene showing how super duper badass she is when she does a badly animated roundhouse kick on 5 krogan gangsters and they fall over like dominoes. There will be a segment where you MUST take her as a squadmate because the plot bends over backwards to force you to do it, and it involves talking to other nonconformist Asari who are even more annoying than normal Asari. I fucking hate Asari.

>>715373094
I would have killed for an Elcor teammate in the original ME trilogy.

>>715370707 (OP)
pull a barv.

>>715385220
That is good thanks. What about the mom character? I mean someone who is intolerant but eventually dies and repents with their death? I am from bioware btw.

>>715384995
Once again, what propaganda is it supposedly pushing?
It's failure is easily chalked up to WWII-games fatigue.

>>715370707 (OP)
How many of the guys involved with making Mass Effect 1 are involved with making the new Mass Effect?

>>715370707 (OP)
hopefully they implement a feature that prevents the player from creating an attractive character

>>715385947
I'm going to chime in to say that feigning being dense in order to cause frustration and an eventual slip up to pounce on is the oldest trick in the book, and you may as well go mask off from here.

>>715385947
>answer my already answered question
Historical revisionism, now when you go to ask the next question refer to the other replies that answered the next question you already know the answer to that you already asked & got an answer for.
>also people loved the propaganda
Agreed, they also liked the propaganda in veilguard, the majority of people agree with your views and you're here playing stupid asking stupid questions from the tiny minority of people who don't share your views for no reason whatsoever.

>>715386127
Just one. She said it is very emotional to her since she still remembers shaving her beard just before going for the job interview to work on ME1.

>>715386334
>your character is too conventionally attractive please adjust the sliders to continue

>>715374073
If you told me this was a shipost Id believe you
If you told me it was real Id believe you

>>715370707 (OP)
>What are your predictions on companion equivalent of pic related?
I know they already did Peebee but I think they're going to do Asari again

A literal monogendered species is too tempting

>>715370707 (OP)
Here's my predictions.
>liara (he now uses male pronouns)
>an AI fighting for it's rights (but it also strongly opposes ai art)
>turian activist resisting the Hierarchy (both their government and the concept)
>quarian refugee (gypsy, gay, possibly underage)
>a geth covered in self-applied graffiti fighting for its rights
>krogan female fighting to prove she's not a "baby factory" (she wants an abortion)
>black male who the writers think would've been popular in their college years
>racially ambiguous woman (she's literally just indian)
>mixed race ukrainian/arab war hero (mecha-putin is advancing on New Gaza in Ukraine)
>an elcor (trans? disabled?)
And what of Sheperd?
>gay black woman
>chose synthesis ending, but racism caused destroy ending instead
The plot?
>ending racism so we can synthesize all life, because only then can we each be unique

>>715370707 (OP)
Sort of this >>715372101 at the end of the day. I'm not excited for it at all.

Even if it does end up having decent story, gameplay, characters, etc., I'm so tired of the usual AAA studio modus operandi that I can't bring myself to care about it.

>>715375084
Taash is just a baffling character. Like they went out of their way to depict her as ignoring how Emerick wants to be referred to and like you said she never gets called out on it. They didn't have to have her do that, it's like the wanted to show her as a massive hypocrite you shouldn't like but gave you no option to do anything about it in the actual game

I think she's also supposed to be the youngest companion which is why her being super sexually aggressive is extra weird. I think they only did that for her because she was the least conventionally attractive companion so they wanted to get her as naked as possible

And yeah. The modern speech patterns. It's like someone literally wrote in a self-insert including their speech patterns, which might explain why she's a selfish hypocrite who doesn't really care that much about anyone else

>>715375517
In a game where nobody looked good, Peebee managed to look worse

>>715388184
She's definitely a self-insert, but the inserter is a old man. So that explains the weird sexual parts and the whole musclemommy fetish.

>>715374073
Why is the MC responding to her own dialogue?

>>715388585
I want to know which person/group Emerick was standing in for when Taash refuses to respect his preferred identity

>>715386387
So no real answer? Understood.
>>715386396
Pretending I'm talking about Veilguard when I'm talking about Battlefield? Gotchya too.

>>715370707 (OP)

>>715387616
They’ll never have an underaged party member, the game will go through too many people to let it slip by.
EA will give the green light to gays but they have enough sense to not peddle pedoshit
Or I could be wrong and you play as space Epstein

>>715388731
He's a necromancer but a white man so uhh

>>715388795

>>715370932
>Andromeda flopped, they have to get Anthem right or Bioware is toast.
>Anthem flopped, they have to get Dreadwolf right of Bioware is toast.
>Veilguard flopped, they have to get ME4 right or Bioware is toast.
Somehow I don't believe you.

>>715370932
You assume they operate on logic. Woke is a cult, for them not fagging up the game would be akin to pissing on the bible for an evangelical.

>>715388839
His age will never be mentioned.
However, he will look and act underage.
This is my doomer™ prediction.

>>715378013
TRUTHNVKE

>>715389332
Idk if that would get by the goalie. I think too many higher ups at EA want the game to actually sell. They won’t fuck with the old characters so Liara won’t be a dude.
I think the game will play it safe and pander to oldfags, but the question is will EA put the stop on the faggotry.
They have to realize they can’t have controversy right? Im not saying Bioware will have learned but the pursestring pullers must have woken up. Not saying the game will be good but Im confident in saying we wont play as Super Groomer Shepard who fights Space Trump

>>715376317
i disagree. it's actually quite fitting and expected. though im sure the writers aren't self aware enough to see it

>>715370707 (OP)
Why does this character look so fucking greasy?

>>715389595
I was joking, anon.
The political climate is rapidly turning on lgbt advocacy, diversity is our strength™, etc.
ME4 will probably be a surprisingly white, pointedly race-blind cast of moderate liberals. Bad, but palatable for most people.

>>715370932
Its cute you still think this is about making money.

>>715388731
Israelis

I don't think we'll be blessed with a cringekino.
But we'll have the end result of work of people too afraid to have fun, so it'll die with "very positive" reviews and journos clamoring about "return to form".

Much better writers than what Bioware have now wrote themselves into the corner with Mass Effect.
Feral Historian had an interesting essay about Andromeda and how the narrative of ME doesn't really work without the Reapers.

>>715388769
i really hope youre just baiting because this kind of blind retardation is really sad

>>715370992
My dream would be a choice of races, human, turian, asari, salarian, krogan, batarian, quarian, and you start the game as a washed out loser in Omega whose only possessions are the clothes on your back, a dirty apartment, and alcoholism. And from there you can overthrow Aria or nuke Omega entirely.

I wanna get away from the prestige and power of government, military, and secret organisations and get right into the crime and grime.

If I were given this corpse of the franchise, I'd say, fuck it, I get paid no matter what.
Then I'd take combat mechanics from ME3, they are very serviceable, and adapt them to the plot.
Convergence has happened, everybody is a synthetic hybrid now and so on, but people are still the same.
When everything changes, people tend to really cling to the old, comfortable and understandable, so we are filming Blasto.
The player plays as a hanar actor playing the first hanar Spectre. We're filming on location, reenacting battles of old (like three, four years ago, that's old), so the player does Spectre stuff for cameras.
However, soon the filming crew uncovers spook-related things on yet another location and the whole thing turns into a high-stakes spy thriller/road movie, concerned with the power struggle in the new old Council.
The game ends with the player actually becoming the first Hanar Spectre, everybody is happy with the journey and I fuck off into the sunset.

return to form

>>715391152
What baiting? 'Historical revisionism' isn't an end into and of itself; I couldn't detect any agenda at play in BFV having prosthetics other than customization. Unless there's some sinister amputee conspiracy out there that wants us to think they're draftable come WWIII.

>>715393104
yawn

>>715372327
>>715372586
there's a reason we used to call them "biodrones"

why are we even discussing this as if anyone cares enough to want to buy BIOSLOP?
dragon age was so queer coded

>>715396967
That is the videogame industry now. You watch the games flop laugh at it and speculate about how much it will flop. It is pic related.

>>715370707 (OP)
im non-buynary

>>715397306

So I played through the series and Veilguard surprised me.
>Combat
This was the hardest for me to really rate. They changed it up so much (and I include Inquisition in the following statement) that it is essentially a completely different genre in terms of gameplay. Veilguard was pretty combat wise but again it is Dragon Age. I'd assume you anons are like me when I say you rather the gameplay of a mainline game in an ip NOT shift entirely. (Fuck you Xenoblade for dropping turn-based). The crafting was ass as it is in all games but I genuinely liked the loot system where you find the same thing and it goes up by +1 or the quality rises. Although I don't think it is worthy of replacing any other game's loot system I thought it was neat.
>Story
Slay me but I actually was getting into the story (ignoring the companions save for Emmrich) until they pulled the jrpg friendship unexplained getting Rook out of the prison. Then it took another violent nose dive as a final fuck you for playing it.
>World
I'll fucking fight any of you niggers over Minrathous being shit. That was so cool to see some Khmer looking aesthetic given to them. Not too big on the fuck off floating palace that did NOTHING the whole game but still I liked it and Nevarra was also very interesting. The rest of the locations were shit save for maybe that under water prison.
>Etc
The game had moments I checked out upon, basically after the prologue and after saving Rook from Solas's cuck realm. Not a fan of changing the blight/dark spawn. Not a fan of some things being explained that shouldn't have. Most of the companions sucked. My biggest gripe is that you can't actually be evil and it is much more of a hug-a-thon. I got everyone killed at the end in spite and pulled myself and Solas into the cuck dimension but weirldy enough I found that ending quite cathartic and uplifted the 0/10 to a 3/10. Also fuck off with the men behind the curtains shit.
>tldr
5/10 would have failed even without the pozzed shit.

>>715399470
>Also fuck off with the men behind the curtains shit.
I fucking hate the "Everything that happened was X's design" because it makes it feel like fucking nobody has any actual agency and the world is just the outflow of a single person/organization's will and not...a world

>>715394234
No answer again? Unsurprising.

>>715400534
Pretty much. Not to mention it is painfully obvious sequel baiting instead of letting each game conclude itself with a bow. I'm still curious as to what exactly the DLC would have been about if it would try to fuck with the cliff hanger Saw-esque niggers behind the curtain or just something else entirely.