Thread 715378165

>played too many games
>now can only get into games that look completely unique and interesting and unlike anything else

Did it happen to you?

the path you're heading down is miserable OP, take it from me
just try to enjoy games for what they are and stop taking it so seriously. eventually you'll find that even the unique ones are generic in terms of gameplay and rely solely on presentation to woo you since essentially everything in vidya has been done before
I need to add Bionic Bay, Felvidek and Poco to 2025 disliked

>>715378806
You spend a lot of time doing things you dislike.

>>715378165 (OP)
Nah, you are just being a flame war fuck.

This is a really low effort shitpost.
Try again later

>>715379280
I don't enjoy being alive much, so it checks out
anyway OP let me see your 3x3 or 5x5 or whatever, interested since I see your infographics / images all the time, might be the only poster here as autistic as me
pic related is my stuff

>>715378343
>>715379363
>>715379503
>>715380375
Why is /v/ so sensitive these days

>>715378806
>likes blood and ashes
your cool in my books anon even if you dont like some of the games that i do

>>715378165 (OP)
Unique doesn't mean good. Generic doesn't mean bad. Fuck off with your hipster bullshit.
Trump is unique and he ended up single-handedly killing America.

>>715378165 (OP)
Not really. To be honest with you anon you should probably reexamine that and do some self reflection because that's likely just being contrarian. The fact that you bring it up as though it's a negative means you might be able to realize you're being a boob and just start enjoying games

>>715378165 (OP)
My experience has been the opposite, i.e. playing more and more games has generally given me proportionally more appreciation for everything the big names get right and how few others overlap with their niches (never mind outdo them in those niches). My biggest litmus test for this is Skyrim which I wrote off as mediocre on release when I'd played a fraction of the amount of games I currently have, whereas now it's one of the few games I'd have no opposition to seeing top a list of the greatest ever even if I wouldn't necessarily agree. In a similar vein, I know a guy who's seen thousands of films and one of his favorites is Back to the Future.

>>715382480
based. I feel like a lot of people go through a phase with things like vidya or film where they think that obscure is inherently better
in terms of a game like Skyrim, yeah it basically has no competition for what it does

>>715378165 (OP)
Sometimes art just won't appeal to you personally. That art isn't automatically "generic, trendy, low-effort, outsourced, dull, safe, regurgitates what everyone has already seen". You aren't the arbiter of truth.

Sometimes, art just doesn't appeal to people. If you're going to be making statements about the objective qualities of a piece of art, you need to have actual reasoning beyond "I didn't like it because (buzzwords)."

>>715382801
Except Oblivion and Morrowind both of which are better than Skyrim

>>715378806
>disliked Gothic
do society, and the world, a favor and kill yourself,

>>715378165 (OP)
sort of op, i'm really struggling to find good games i haven't played
i know it can't be true, but i fear i might have literally played every single good game, every game now is just me hunting for the bits that it does well, while acknowledging the entire game itself is terrible
i'm just replaying good games more than playing games i haven't played before at this point

>>715382801
Who the fuck said anything about obscure, retard? Almost all the games in the OP are widely acclaimed AAA games.

>>715383186
it's not the controls that filtered me, those are actually fine once it clicks, it's just how dry the world and writing is

>>715383290
>Zeno Clash
>Endonesia
>Killer7
>whatever the fuck that is next to FF7
these are absolutely obscure to your average gaymer. I'd wager fewer than 1% of /v/ is familiar with Endonesia

>>715382801
What exactly does Skyrim "do" beyond vibes.

>>715383290
The average normie gamer could point out most games on the right and wouldn't have a clue what a single game on the left is. The OP is clearly going "I only like le obscure retro games" because he thinks its a cool personality trait

>>715383739
Ah yes, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Final Fantasy, Psychonauts, Mario, Starcraft, and Bayonetta, my favorite obscure games

>>715383831
Morrowind, Starcraft, Mario, Final Fantasy, Fallout and Bayonetta are obscure to you? Holy fuck just kill yourself already normalnigger.

>>715383739
No, none of those games are obscure. The point was that the games on the left are unique in their aesthetic and presentation. You're just too fucking stupid to understand that. God this place has gone down hill. I could never imagine /v/ getting stupider yet here we are.

>>715383831
It's 2025. Morrowind is only relevant because it was a YouTube trend, it's still incredibly niche. Fallout 1 has been completely forgotten in the popular consciousness, Mario RPG still falls into the retro camp but is the most well known game there, StarCraft is a dead franchise, and Bayonetta is again, obscure to normies.

I would try learning how to read, and realize that I said "the average normie gamer", the demographic who's collective knowledge of videogames is "oh yeah i saw that character in Fortnite."

>>715384598
Sooo, popular = good?

>>715384598
That's Fallout 2 you stupid faggot. Way to out yourself again.

>>715383739
>>715384598
normieniggers coming on /v/ getting defensive about not knowing any games lmao

>>715378165 (OP)
What are all the games on the left?

>Morrowind
>Zeno Clash
>Psychonauts
>???
>Starcraft
>Inscryption
>Fallout?
>???
>Mario RPG
>Crow Country
>Killer7
>???
>???
>Kunitsu-Gami
>Neo: TWEWY
>???
>???

>>715384380
HL2 was artistically ground-breaking for its time and Viktor Antonov's art style is iconic and has yet to be truly replicated.

Halo was similarly ground-breaking when it comes to sci-fi games, How in the fuck is Hollow Knight not artistically unique?

I despise Fallout 4 with all my heart, but to say that it doesn't have a unique art style is objectively wrong. I do find it rather shit though.

I'm pretty sure that's Deus Ex next to Fallout 4 but I can't really see it that well, if it is, seriously? Same for MGS3.

Undertale is entirely unique in its art style and presentation no game has properly replicated it since, and no, it is not just Earthbound, Earthbound is completely different artistically.

RE4 is again something that was unique when it released and went on to be copied. How the fuck is a star wars game supposed to be artistically unique? It has to be like Star Wars.

Seems like OP is just retarded and can't separate the origin of an artistic trend from those who followed said trend. Which would line up with the games on the left (Aside from obviously being hipster bullshit.)

>>715385282
>Undertale is entirely unique in its art style and presentation no game has properly replicated it since, and no, it is not just Earthbound, Earthbound is completely different artistically.
Is that so..

>>715384824
Second anon, I have played more games on the left of that image than on the right you moron. I also happen to go outside regularly enough to know that normies haven't. Do you really think normies are playing fucking Fallout 1 in the year 2025? Even modern Fallout fans can't bring themselves to do that because apparently pointing and clicking is a "dated control scheme." Let alone the original Mario RPG or Starcraft. The only one I could consider relatively popular would be Inscryption, and that's purely because of a fucking Game Theory video of all things. Normies just have shit taste in art.

>>715385690
>reading comprehension
>also not fallout 1
LOL

>>715385683
The only similarity with that image is that Undertale has a JRPG battle menu lmfao. By that logic SMT Is battle menu is the same as Earthbound.

>not monochromatic
>different menu format
>different font
>different background
>different artstyle
>different character designs
>different colours
>different text placement
>only similarity is that the boxes are in the same place

>>715385282
>How the fuck is a star wars game supposed to be artistically unique? It has to be like Star Wars
lol

>>715385772
My bad I'm a retard that's the fucking temple of trials.

>>715385143
Morrowind, Zeno Clash, Psychonauts, Endonesia
StarCraft, Fallout 2, Robin Hood: The Legend of Sherwood, Super Mario RPG
Inscryption, Crow Country below it, Killer7, Robot Ponkottsu 64: Nanatsu no Umi no Caramel, FF7
Kunitsu-Gami, Neo TWEWY, Bastion, Bayonetta 3

>>715385143
The one below mario RPG is Final Fantasy 7 and the one to the right of Neo: TWEWY is Bastion.

>>715385945
What? "artistically unique" is an incredibly broad term. I just assumed you meant surface level artstyle. Define "artistically unique" then.

>>715378343
Kek, fpbp

>>715385920
The only similarity between these two images is that there's two dudes in it lmfao.

>different colors
>different clothes
>different sky
>different hair strands
>different backgrounds
>different placement
>different eyes
>only similarity is that there are two guys

The bottom image is entirely unique

>>715378165 (OP)
I don't care how they look, but yeah my standard for games is higher now that there are endless mid sloppy games that there's no reason to put any time into

>>715386102
I am not the guy who you think I am. I just know you're a fucking retard.

>>715386351
Those images aren't entirely unique, but they are objectively two completely different artstyles yes. These images however, are all incredibly different In spite of perceived surface level similarities.

>>715386963
0SXJP

>>715386880
>>715386963
>>715387060
i feel you anon, but i'mma be real with you, jrpgs are fucking terrible because they're almost universally made by people that can't program, so they're all super slow, way too long load times, way too long battle transitions, way too slow attack cycles
i want to like them, there's a bunch where the styles are alright, but they all fucking suck to play outside of a very small amount of standouts that were designed around not wasting the player's time like ffxii

>>715387060
Typed the captcha in the wrong place lol

>>715386880
>no you see Toby changed the font and shifted the boxes 2px to right, that makes the aesthetic completely unique and original!

>>715387168
You are retarded and don't know how art works.

>>715378165 (OP)
Not really, I've played hundreds of games and still enjoy slop

>>715387239
I know you'd be called a fucking retard if you put out the bottom image in >>715386351 while claiming it's completely unique and original to you and that no one else did anything like it before or after

>>715378165 (OP)
I can only play high IQ games (no nintendo)

>>715378165 (OP)
I pick both. I like iterating on successful ideas and I like new ideas. I like good ideas in general.

>>715387304
Nice grammar. Those are two entirely different artstyles depicting the same or a similar scene. There is no such thing as original art, all art is iterative or derivative.

>>715387317
>everything who doesn't like the things I like and dislike the things I dislike is a retarded child.
ok.

>>715387483
>Nice grammar.
Thanks
>Those are two entirely different artstyles depicting the same or a similar scene
And yet you'd be called a fucking retard if you claimed you invented the bottom image without copying anything that came before it

>>715387317
UMMM anon... one of your (((high iq))) games is in the op's ( >>715378165 (OP) ) normiecattle shitter games so....
well i mean this is just kind of embarrassing for you dontcha think??

>>715387614
Well no shit it's the same fucking franchise. Two Mario's drawn in different artstyles are still both Mario.

>>715387813
op is a low iq faggot and also a nigger so feel free to disregard his post he is wrong and i am right, always

>>715387317
got more dem pixels bro?

>>715387317
At 19 I only played right, now at 30 I only play left

>>715388089
congratulations sister, it takes a lot of courage to recognize and embrace your true identity

>>715388302
would all the ones on the left

>>715387818
So even though tiny details can technically be different, you understand that two things can essentially convey the same idea and not be unique and original

>>715389545
There is no such thing as original art.

Yes, all JRPG battle menus are trying to convey the idea of a JRPG battle menu, and thus use similar methods to convey the same concept of a JRPG battle menu in different unique ways, while still being functionally "the same thing".

The only difference between say Persona 4's battle menu and Final Fantasy 1's battle menu is artstyle and technology. At it's core, they are both action selection menus with allies listed on one side of the screen and enemies listed on the other. Only a retard would say that makes Persona 4 "generic, trendy, low-effort, outsourced, dull, safe, regurgitates what everyone has already seen".

The only reason we're talking about this is because everything else about Undertale's art style is completely fucking different to Earthbound, so that anon had to resort to "they both have menus."

>>715390079
>everything else about Undertale's art style is completely fucking different to Earthbound
Yeah it totally doesn't have
>wacky funny monsters designs
>flatly colored pixel art
>cartoon-inspired characters
>a striped shirt main character
>a horror styled final boss
>etc

>>715390386
>wacky funny monster designs
an Itoi original for sure.
>flatly coloured pixel art
another Itoi original.
>cartoon-inspired character designs
never seen that in any other art piece.
>a striped shirt main character
an artist paying homage to their inspiration? Must be plagiarism!
>a horror styled final boss
Itois finest original idea that no other game did ever.

You are a retard and you don't know what art is.

By the same logic:
>Morrowind isn't unique because it's a fantasy game.
>Zeno Clash isn't unique because it's a cartoon fantasy game
>Psychonauts isn't unique because it's a cartoon 3D platformer
>Endonesia isn't unique because it's a cartoon claymation pixel game
>Starcraft isn't unique because its a sci-fi RTS
>Fallout 2 isn't unique because its an isometric post-apocalyptic RPG
>Robin Hood: The Legend of Sherwood isn't unique because it's an isometric fantasy rts based on mythology
>Super Mario RPG isn't unique because its a Mario game
etc.

>>715391363
Name another game with
>wacky funny monsters designs
>flatly colored pixel art
>cartoon-inspired characters
>a striped shirt main character
>a horror styled final boss
>a combat screen like >>715385683
That was not made by Itoi or Toby

>>715381545
Good thing the games on the left are both unique and merited
>Generic doesn't mean bad
Usually it's the worst you can get before crossing over into outright bad

>>715391481
Photoshop Flowey is not the final boss. The final boss is a god. It's a classic JRPG trope.
>a horror styled final boss
Does not apply to Undertale.

The only thing here that is exclusive to both Earthbound and Undertale is:
>a striped shirt main character
Which is an unimportant minor detail meant as a homage.

So for the important things
>wacky funny monsters designs
>flatly colored pixel art
>cartoon-inspired characters
>a combat screen like >>715385683
SMT, Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Crystalis, Ultima, Pool of radiance, Destiny of an Emperor, Metal Max 1995, Faria, Musashi no Bōken, Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei,
Mirai Shinwa Jarvas, Swords and Serpents, etc

At this point I'm just listing of NES RPGS/JRPGS, oh wait, it's almost like Undertale is a fucking NES inspired JRPG that takes inspiration from the variety of games Toby played as a child, with a writing style inspired by Earthbound and Homestuck and an artstyle unique to Temmie Chang that still follows general NES visual design principles. Seems to me like the problem is you're a zoomer who doesn't know shit about videogames and videogame tropes while also not knowing how art works, or you're baiting.

>>715378806
>Likes Shadow Tactics
>Dislikes Desperados 3

It's literally the same fucking game you fag.

>>715388302
Why are Zelda fans so fucking gay?

>>715392398
None of those games have cartoon-inspired characters retard, they're all explicitly anime/Japanese except Metal Max which does not have flatly colored pixel art

>>715393002
You are retarded and have no idea what you're talking about.

Mother 1 and 2 are Japanese games. They are inspired by manga art styles. Mother 1 is directly inspired by Dragon Quest. ALL JRPGS directly come from Dragon Quest.

>>715378165 (OP)
Idk if its just me but it seems there is a pronounced artistic stagnation coming from AAA companies that just wanna play it safe and milk established franchises instead of taking a gamble with something new. You used to occasionally get landmark games that stood the test of time. Now its just endless rehashing of exhausted franchises and GaaS shit. There is nothing exciting or original anymore.

>>715393614
And none of them looked to western cartoons for character/monster inspiration except Itoi's and Toby's games

>>715393723
Undertale wasn't "inspired by western cartoons" Temmie Chang's artstyle was influenced by Western cartoons because she's an american artist who grew up watching american cartoons, like Toby, who was also undoubtably influenced by american cartoons. Itoi however, was not inspired by western cartoons. All references to the USA in Earthbound were a result of localization. Mother 2 is an explicitly Japanese game inspired by anime and manga. The western influence was largely musical. But I guess if you're a retard picrel is the same as

>>715394295
this

>>715394295
>>715394360
Correct those are the only two major RPG rosters inspired by western cartoons, one being monochrome and worse drawn doesn't change the fact it's drawing from the same sources as Earthbound for inspiration

>>715394502
You are completely braindead