Thread 715423525

Soon every pixel and every frame on your screen will be AI generated.

>>715423525 (OP)
you can literally ask an AI bot to shit you some dumb simple games NOW

But why?

cool not gonna pay tho

Yeah yeah and the 6070 will have 8090 performance for -200$.

>Soon every pixel and every frame on your screen will be AI generated.
Hasn't that always been the case, thoughbeit?
Man writes script, a computer (or, Artificial Intelligence) runs the script to display images

>>715423671
performance

>>715424201
a computer computes it doesnt have an intelligence

>>715424201
computer program generating visuals =/= computer program rendering assets

>>715423525 (OP)
Go right ahead, just gives me even more reason to avoid AAA and only play indies

honestly i just want a road trip game where i can travel the whole world. seems like it should be doable already

>we can't run games at 4K 144Hz but we will AI-generate them which is way more resource intensive
make it make sense

>>715426153
semantics

>>715426321
The big reason Jensen likes AI generated frames is because he likes ray tracing and really cool graphical simulations like fluid and physics stuff. But to do that stuff normally it's hard, but with AI it becomes a lot easier.

In the future AI will generated/render way more stuff too, like they showed off faces that are coming soon. And Nvidia has been working on animations for years.

In probably like 10 years or whenever, games will run like 50x faster than they do today while looking 50x better simultaneously. They'll fix the smearing shit too because that's just a latency problem.

>>715426383
Nope.

>>715426542
PLEASE explain the logic of AI-generating something being easier for the computer than rendering something pre-defined. Assuming equal quality of the output. That's like saying that finding a drawing in a folder is slower than drawing it on the spot

>>715423525 (OP)
Not my screen.

>>715425865
Maybe in 30 years, then.

>ask an AI to generate an entire video game
>it's a generic Ubislop open world game because that's the most plentiful data it was fed
>looking at the map shows nonsense terrain
>climb an Ubislop tower to try to make sense of it all
>now your map has nonsense symbols that don't mean anything and the terrain has completely changed
>try to climb down but make the mistake of clipping the camera into the tower
>now the entire world is a nightmare hellscape of tower materials
>techbros insist that this is a 10/10 video game experience that is worth paying for

>>715426695
I can't do it well but I'll try with a thinking exercise.

So yeah how long would it take you to animate this traditionally? It would probably take you fucking forever even if you knew exactly what you were doing, I personally don't think I've seen a hand made animation like this before. And meanwhile AI generated it in minutes(or seconds potentially).
Now imagine when they figure out how to generate/render(generender?) it in real-time for game use. That's what Nvidia is talking about. Where you can just open unreal and make a blue sheet and say(this is cool water :DDD) and AI turns it into Nice Water with 90% realistic simulation effects and it runs with like 1fps hit. AI used in this way will make developing games infinitely easier and cheaper as well as making it easier to run them. We can see this with their latest DLSS and how it does ray tracing so well.

I know /v/ hates the smearing and shit, but that will get fixed. That latest version is already miles better than the last one.

>>715426792
If he said 5-10 years I don't think he's wrong, I'd bet on the tail end of that estimation though.

>>715423525 (OP)
>every pixel and every frame
Pixels aren't real...

>>715423525 (OP)
Yeah, but why would we want that? I already don't play modern games made by humans, why would I want them to be made by AI which is even more slop?

>>715427006
what you're saying is valid for this one short animation but if 10 people generate this it will give them 10 different videos. How is that viable for a video game or a movie? No two people see the same thing

>>715423525 (OP)
Nah. I'll still play old games though.

>>715426542
>>715427006
>it's better because it faster!!!
Also that looks shit.

>>715427006
Also another point in favor of AI generation is that it will let games get a lot close to real photorealism and not the laughable hand made attempts we've seen so far. And countless other styles we haven't seen rendered too.

>>715427130
You can consistently render something in a given style, you think you can't because you've only used online tools that don't give you full control. And obviously things will get increasingly consistent as there is progress.
I'm glad you understood me, I was worried I would only get a reply like the other one.

>>715427321
You can already see the style stuff in some of the video tools out there, like pic here.

>>715426927
Nightmare enjoyers, we're eating good.

>>715427321
Photorealism is garbage. Only normalfags care about it.

>>715427006
Go get diarrhea from the fecal particles at your local street food dispensary, Rajeesh.

Stop making these fucking threads.

>>715427615
>>715427618
>immediate mindless seething
kek

This feels pertinent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEnvmni7w9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZjtV53msYU

Porn is still the only real use case for AI

>>715427643
>Consistent mindless slopping

>>715427369
That's not even a game. Just an interactive video, barely even a tech demo. This is why AI generated games will never make any fucking sense.

>>715423525 (OP)
>soon™

>>715427787
I know but the tech Jensen is talking about is related. There are games that are AI generated either fully as in they're real-time video or where the AI generated code/assets but that isn't really what Jensen is talking about.

>>715423525 (OP)
He is only saying that because he needs it to be true for his company to not fucking implode.

>>715427857
Jensen doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about because AI can barely even play a game, let alone make one on the fly like that. Jensen is not a game developer. He's an AI hype man.

oldgameschads, we cant stop winning

>>715427907
>Jensen doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about
ok lol

>>715426542
>In probably like 10 years or whenever, games will run like 50x faster than they do today while looking 50x better simultaneously.
Anon, video games have barely moved forward graphically in the past ten years AND they run worse on top of everything on much more expensive hardware. AI is not helping, technologies like raytracing are only makign them perform even more dogshit and it's not feasible or well implemented in most games at all. This is pure hype nonsense. Games graphics are stagnating and companies out of business trying to eke out just slightly more graphical fidelity for very little in the way of returns. People want fun gameplay, not AI generated slop.

>>715427907
>Jensen doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about
He's one of if not the most informed people in the world on what AI is capable of and what problems need solving to do things it's incapable of.
>AI can barely even play a game, let alone make one on the fly like that
Actually it can.

>>715428073
AI will obviously help and I'm sorry you can't afford an RTX card but proper RT does make games look better.

>>715427985
Yes, just like many of the investors at Nintendo don't actually know jack shit about how video games are made. They just like it when Nintendo makes more money, which is why they're investors. Jensen is a spokesperson for Nvidia. He is the hypeman. He is there to encourage people to invest in Nvidia, and he does a good job of it. He does not know JACK shit about video games because he's never developed one. He is a salesman trying to push meme technology like Gaytracing and Frame Generation. Nothign that's actually made gaming better in any noticeable way.

>>715428168
keep yelling at clouds faggot

This means as AI advances, the machines we know as computers will change, maybe in the future we won't even use Windows or Linux but a hardcoded version of AI that handles every task depending on the information output.

>>715428141
>RT does make games look better.
For a HUGE performance cost in which you have to use meme technology like frame generation even on the strongest 4090/5090 builds. There are arguably two games that even implement ray tracing well, Cyberpunk being the only real standout.

Jensen is not a game developer. What makes you think he knows anything about game development or how a game works? He's an Nvidia shill. That is it. He's never made a game in his life.

>>715428240
And maybe the only way to prompt the ai will be to stick a dildo up your ass. One can only hope...

I think one point of contention AI video games will have is the same as the WoW clone problem.
Why would I play a WoW clone when you can just play WoW? Just because you can flood the market with shit faster isn't going to make it better than the preexisting alternatives.

>>715427985
Yeah hes good at making GPUs, not games

>>715428240
Yep. We'll be able to have AI make a custom OS too. That idea is both scary and exciting especially when you learn about those recent quantum computing breakthroughs.

>>715428258
>For a HUGE performance cost
Unless you have a modern RTX card then it's whatever. I mostly agree with you by the way but you're being retarded when it comes to AI and trash talking someone that obviously knows more about game development than you. He's Nvidia's long time CEO and a legend of computing progress. He's not a shill you dumbass, he's a driving force.

>>715428407
What creates and runs games?

>>715423525 (OP)
>Soon every pixel and every frame on your screen will be AI generated.
And every one of those games will not sell a single copy. FAFO.

>>715429094
retard

What I find more likely to happen is having games with the lowest poly of low poly 3D models and AI generating the "paint" for the models. That way you still have a rigid base without hallucinations and the AI component will only be the visualisation of the simple model.

>>715428431
Brother just because your monitor only goes to 60 doesn't make the performance impact of RT "whatever".
Jensen has EVERY incentive to push AI tech over everything else right now, it's insane short term profit chasing from investors.

This is there way to turn fake gamer into not an insult. When everyone is a fake gamer, the nobody will be.

>>715427643
ITS GOOD BECAUSE PORN PORN RAPE YOU TOMORROW SIRS

>>715429336
Retard who believes AI soup slop will ever cstch on to be something so solid as game mechanics. Absolute fucking delusion.

>>715423658
He (obviously) means "AAA" games.

>>715429460
My monitor goes up to 144. Are you a zoomer that has never experienced this before? Crying about performance in graphically demanding games is a waste of time and blaming Nvidia for it is just retarded.

>>715430395
To me it's Bloom 2: Even Uglier and -80% FPS edition.
Yeah I'm going to fucking cry about performance when it's happening to facilitate graphics that look like complete ass.
I know what you're doing here. Fuck off.

>>715430198
But there won't be any "AAA" games on my screen. AI or no AI.

You believe leather jacket man right /v/, he would never lie to you

im good id rather play hand crafted games thanks

>>715425865
Performance of what? Dev teams?

>>715423525 (OP)
Always has been.

>>715430954
Instead of being reasonable and sane and saying goodbye good talk, you just go full schizo. Unbased.

>>715431593
How games are run and made.

>>715431675
>and made
oh goodie, because the PBR material revolution did wonders for art direction

>>715423525 (OP)
AIslop is already deforming pictures taken on phones can't imagine video games

>>715431720
I hate what PBR did to games too but AI will make them look better.

AIslop can't even make a blockbuster movie and you retards expect it to generate a fucking videogame

Holy shit you're wild man

Says the guy selling shovels in a gold rush.

>>715431727
I unironically think the forced smear filter that ruins TVs and phone cameras is directly a conspiracy psyop by the industry in order to make what AI generates seem more realistic by lowering the bar on what's already standard.

>>715425949
nor does any llm

>>715426695
>That's like saying that finding a drawing in a folder is slower than drawing it on the spot
your analogy is flawed because a renderer is typically doing much more work than a transformer (AI-gen).
it's more like the renderer is drawing on the spot and the transformer is photoshopping on the spot.

>>715431895
>AIslop can't even make a blockbuster movie
yet
also that's a higher bar than making a video game

>>715432089
It isn't a higher bar than making an AAA videogame.

>>715431950
this made me kek
for me, I prefer ancient photographs and how they looked. it's all been downhill from there and it's probably because of the tribe

>>715431869
That webm (or mp4 whatever) is kino but the tech to make it happen in real-time on affordable components is decades away

>>715431385
EVERY games will be AI generated at some point

>>715431424
5070 12GB vram is a scam

>>715432262
It's 4-9 years away according to the man making the tech.

>>715432608
>poop eyes
>soul
lol
lmao

>>715432608
Generating assets in AI for a standard videogame? Sure.
AI used in real-time? Nah. 15 years minimum.

>>715432669
DLSS is literally AI used in real-time. You could also generate videos in real-time last year on consumer hardware, just at a lower resolution. And that's what DLSS is for.

anyone who works with ai and/or has at leas a remote understanding of how most of it works knows that it's all a fad, it's hard to even call ai a tool, because of how inconsistent it is, it is helpful in many cases, but saying shit like "ai will generate *whole thing*" is bullshit, it may generate parts, and even then there will have to be someone who will have to curate it, besides any program, be it videogame, some office utility, management tools, whatever it is, is so complicated and requires so much attention that a prompt to describe all of its aspects would probably take more effort than actually writing the code, I dare you, go and try to make game using ai, you will quickly find out how futile of a task it is

AI is like ask jeeves-tier usefulness, even then it gets shit wrong because nothing it writes out is deterministic. it doesn't even exist until its written out so it can be off with a handful of words without you knowing unless you're super critical about its output, which most people aren't.

doing this for a game would just be a pain because you'd have to fix all its mistakes, at which point you'd be better off just making stuff the old fashioned way.

Full self driving has been two years away for over ten years. Just because something in machine learning scales really well doesn't mean it will continue to do so in the future.

>>715432765
Just like the internet, why the fuck use the internet when you have reliable tech like phone and fax.
It's really all a fad.

>>715423525 (OP)
fuck this guy. I hope an AI bot murders his shylocking(yes i know he's not a kike but he acts like one anyway) ass.

>>715432753
>DLSS is literally AI used in real-time.
but those are fake fraymes

>>715423525 (OP)
IN THE FUTURE, ENTERTAINMENT WILL BE RANDOMLY GENERATED

>>715426542
wrong Jensen likes money. he could care less about technology.

>>715432765
this guy can do it
https://x.com/DannyLimanseta/status/1944415010836599003

>>715432949
And AI art is """fake""" art too. Protip: it's both real, just new.

>>715432608
>you have such a beautiful life heart emoji fire emoji fire emoji fire emoji
>SO CUTE heart eyes emoji I WANNA LIVE YOUR LIFE heart emoji
>LOVE your style heart eyes emoji more pics please lightning emoji trophy emoji
>I feel poor and ugly now
Narcissist's wet dream
People who put their life online for the attention are simply just disgusting human beings

>>715432918
The usefulness of the internet didn't presuppose advances in machine learning that might or might not materialize. Just that it got cheaper and more accessible to people.

>>715433368
Subhumans*

>>715433368
A lot of the uploads and comments will be AI generated soon too. Truly the world of tomorrow.

>>715433392
Exactly it was just a fad, also the speed was always the same since the CERN days.

>>715433454
are you real?

>>715433454
So, who rakes in the cash here, if it's not biological humans making the content or consuming the content?
Who profits from bots engaging with other bots ad infinitum?

>>715433518
Of course I'm real.

>>715433460
I'm sure even MechaHitler would point out your reasoning error. But first you must be humble enough to admit that your'e a retard and ask it.

>>715432608
I like her boobs.

>>715433560
That's what someone not real would say

>>715433545
Maybe it's just for fun.

>>715423525 (OP)
It's completely irrelevant what the company says that would profit from this the most. Of course he says this, what else should he do?

>>715433587
It's really funny how so many people are retarded when it comes to AI when you can literally ask an AI and it would help you learn about the subject.

>>715428431
This shilling is exactly the same as back in the NFT days. You couldn't make it more obvious you have your neet bux tied up in nvidia.

>>715433937
You genuinely need to take your meds.

I'm not that anon and I just made fun of AI some posts ago
>>715433937
NFTs are a scam

>You couldn't make it more obvious you have your neet bux tied up in nvidia.
Which retard investor wouldn't invest in shovel seller and biggest market cap company kek. Altough I boughted in at $70

>>715433110
ah yeah 25s of tech demo, that is indeed "the game", this guy says that he makes game prototypes, his only released product related to games is some d&d char gen, he didn't release a single complete ai game.
it's all demos, because again, any real project is just too big to just prompt, and because of it's inconsistency ai can't really top-up what it generated before
>>715432918
I explained exactly why I consider ai a fad, but you'd have to read more than ten words of I wrote you dumb faggot

>>715434123
you realize you aren't making a point right? a demo is a game, it's just short.

>>715434162
a tech demo, as its name suggests is a presentation of particular tech piece, this guy's tech demos are just some fucking scraps of mechanics presented if form of short videos, I could even argue that it may as well be ai videos and not ai "games" but I don't have bad faith and don't intend to mock anyone, and of course you can make primitive ai games, but that's not what we're talking about right?

>>715434502
he makes them for his kids to play
https://x.com/DannyLimanseta/status/1941887062824878481
that latest game also genuinely looks cool, if he spent more than a couple of days on it he'd have something fun I bet. meanwhile you're saying this is somehow impossibly hard.

>>715423658
The output is tic-tac-toe(doesn’t work)

>>715434819
made me laugh
what a cuck you are

>>715435259
told you twice my point of view, and you nigger link me some halfdone bullshit and sit there all smug that you proved me wrong, wake up you dumb faggot, ai will never make you anything, because you are to lazy and too dumb to even prompt it correctly, you keep trying to prove me wrong, because you hope that one day you will be able to plug a magic tech into your mind and get drugged with it like if it was fent, you won't all of you lazy assholes will die out not because of race wars or anything, but because you're so lazy that one day you'll just forget to eat

>>715431675
Idiot. Most likely a brown.

>I'll quit gaming for good in 5 to 10 years
Thanks, great news