Thread 715438856

Discuss your favorite character/stylish action/spectacle fighters/J-Action/whatever you want to call them.
Post scores & clears & tier-lists.
Hopes & fears for Ninja Gaiden 4.

>>715438856 (OP)
This may be an absolute heresy to Gaidenfags, but NG2 on Acolyte was incredinbly fun experience without much frustration. On Very Hard (forgot the name of the difficulty) I dropped it on that thunder dude at the top of the Statue of Liberty.

it pisses me off there's no cuhrayzee game with modding tools

Ninja Gaiden 4 has the perfect chance to revive action games and destroy Soulslikes forever; anons better preorder the game!

>>715439764
Wishful thinking

>>715439764
As much as I'd love that, let's be realistic - it will probably flop and at best do ok.

>>715439110
"Who cares if the game is broken, unfinished and pigeonholes a single strategy that warps it back to being braindead on the later difficulty, just play the easy ones" is an unironic talking point NG2 cultists have used, in the same breath as jerking off the game for its "difficulty" while trying to shit on games for being easy and for not playing on their hardest modes.

>>715439764
This will never happen.
Souls are Call of Duty tier now after Elden Ring

>>715439991
I'm so proud of Fromsoft!

>>715439834
>Soulslike fatigue among audience to the point where /v/ of all places turned their back on From
>From Software is on a very weakened state due to the Concord-tier dual disaster that was Shadow of the Erdtree and Nightreign
>After the failure of hero shooters publishers are desperate for a new trend
Ninja Gaiden 4 has the perfect chance to succeed

>>715439991
And Call of Duty is dead now, trying to imitate Fortnite.
There is no such thing as an unkillable genre

>>715439764
No, I'm pre ordering nioh 3

For a long time I liked NG2 more than NGB, but after going through on higher difficulties I don’t think it’s close anymore, NGB is the best action game out there. NG2 is great but the flaws just get more and more glaring. I actually think NG2B might be the better game overall desu

ng2 is the hardest video game in existance

>>715440375
keep on dreaming tranny, you guiys don't even play your own games

>>715440375
There is also the fact that /v/ holds immense power and influence ver the industry.
It was /v/ who made Dark Souls big; /v/ can easily make Ninja Gaiden a cultural phenomenon.

>>715440492
Nioh 3 will be a commercial failure. You're wasting your money.

>>715438856 (OP)
It's called Hack and Slash though

>>715440680
>Nioh 3 will be a commercial failure. You're wasting your money.
Why would it's critical reception with normalfags lessen my enjoyment?

>>715439764
Ng4 looks like shit with 0 hype. Not sure why you're sucking down that copium

Any hopes for lost soul aside or crimson desert being good action games and not roll slop?

>>715440789
There is no enjoyment to be get from that shitty game.
If you want fun buy NG4.

>>715438856 (OP)
How do I stop getting filtered by the first boss in Ninka Gaiden Black? Playing on Xemu, and the constant bugs are frustrating enough as is.

>>715440926
Keep crying, I'll pre order 2 copies just for you
>NG4
No idea what that is

>>715439764
Even if it has good sales (it won't, no hype) it also has to be a good game to have any staying power at all. My prediction is that it will have MGRR+NG3RE gameplay without the anything that endears it to normalfags like the former

>>715441143
Pls give me one of the copies, I'm poor.

>>715440994
Which bugs? It runs flawlessly on my machine.
Do you mean Murai? You have to dodge and whiff punish. Literally a souls boss.

>>715441246
Soon as I can pre order it

>>715440513
NGB is just a better curated experience. If Itagaki & co could've held it together at TN for a bit longer they probably would have given us a real "black" update that's on the same level as NGB instead of just shit thrown at the wall

>>715439110
This game breaks your brain. After doing Tests of Valor on Master Ninja, it rewires your synapses to find the pace of the campaign on MN very refreshing. Stockholm syndrome. You just need to play it long enough to internalize the frustration.

>>715441143
Buy another for me (I'm on PC).

>>715441341
>Which bugs?
The sceeen going black or becoming "vertical" and only a quarter of it being visible. It's probably an issue stemming from the XISO because the emulator itself still runs fine. A possible cause might be the software I used to convert NGB from ISO to XISO, as prior format wouldn't load for some reason.

You get nioh 3
And >>715441685 you get nioh 3

>>715439764
NG4 will fail because the only way an asian action game can succeed nowadays is by tapping into the chinese market and the only way to do that is make it about a female protagonist with huge ass/tits and make the gameplay as braindead as possible where all you do is mash 1 button and occasionally press dodge.
NG4 fails on both fronts.

>>715441862
Why does she use wheels?

>>715441941
Thanks, that explains stellar blade

>>715440994
his most punishable thing is his forward advancing dodge, you can reliably bait and punish it
alternatively you can spam the wall attack, more random, but works for a noob too

>>715438856 (OP)
I'm playing NG3 seriously trying to do all the achievements and some deathless runs (only on normal)

>The girls

They're still worse than Ryu. Grab city with them

>Kasumi

Really fun, but it's the least safe of the three.

>Master Collection

I dislike that there's no practice mode. of all my playthroughs of this game including vanilla, this is the first time I've started to lab something different, and I really miss the practice mode. almost downloading the wii u or 360 version so I can practice the strings better. Master Collection my ass

>Why don't I go on higher difficulties for deathless

It's not a lack of skill but a lot of the bad stuff from NG3 is still in the game. I'm just dreading having to try deathless spider tank on a clean save

>NG3 problem

I downloaded MGR from the 360 to see if there were any noticeable differences between it and the PC version (which I played on revegeance btw), and I noticed that in NG3 a lot of the strings in the game aren't safe and that's because the enemies are fast and aggressive. Unlike MGR where they have a slower response time and Raiden's attacks have bigger hitboxes and better framedata. So that's why dual katana feels like garbage in the game. Flashy shit is useless in a game where not only are enemies aggressive, but they have insane recovery and armor.

>>715440513
I prefer NG2B overall compared to 2 after playing both a few months apart. 2 is more entertaining in typical combat scenarios with its higher enemy counts and faster kills, but there's just too many dogshit terrible segments that you have to make yourself forget and not let them ruin the whole experience for you. Sigma was a direct downgrade but NG2B successfully fixed the most glaring faults by adding blood/gore back in, removing the dogshit statue of liberty type bosses, and in a post launch update they greatly increased the enemy counts in a few scenarios (e.g. the staircase on Master Ninja now has the correct comically high amount of ninjas).

>>715440994
Roll back and attack with Y

>>715441982
In nip lore, originally the kasha was a flaming cart that stole your soul when you die. Over time nips decided its a flaming cat yokai instead, hence the design a fusion of the two

>>715442395
Nip lore isn't reliable, even less so in Nioh, which like all video games is inspired by pop culture.

what do I do when a ninja nigger sticks me with an IS? I always default to blocking and waiting till it explodes to iframe it

>>715442736
Then why ask nigger

ng1 would've been 100 times better if it didn't take a year to load after my death

>>715442865
Taht wasn't me, I asked the question originally.

I think the snappiest of these games is NG2 vanilla, then NG1 and then NG3. Restarting NG3 to load your save is much slower than restarting NG1 and going to the menu to load your save. Since NG1 will store the data and it will be instantaneous.

>>715439110
Nah. Completely valid. NG2, while among my favorite games of all time, is terribly balanced above Warrior (Normal.) Mentor is okay but kind of frustrating, but Master Ninja is utterly broken. The difficulty comes from sensory overload more than anything.

As >>715441679 says, some masochists have learned to love the way MNM is broken. I think a lot of that comes from no other game throwing so much bullshit at you at once, so when you do manage to adapt to it, everything else feels slow.

>>715439905
>All NG fans are one person

>>715442229
Try the game. That's not how it plays.

Notably, it's not a terribly deep game, but that's not an accurate description of it either.

>>715444169
>All NG fans are one person
more like NG has one fan HAHA AM I RIGHT DMCBROS????

>>715444169
>no other game throws as much bullshit at you, everything else feels slow
I would agree up to about Mentor difficulty, but I just don’t think Master Ninja outweighs how frustrating it is. Call it a skill issue, I don’t care. If I want a fix of ultra fast paced crackhead gameplay, I would rather play Doom Eternal instead

>>715439905
>pigeonholes a single strategy
Shitter detected

so is ninja gaiden 2 black worth grabbing as a dmc-only looking get into ninja gaiden

>>715439764
Unfortunately they shit the bed by changing protagonists and letting Platinum act as the primary devs.

Yakumo's design and playstyle turned off a lot of Ninja Gaiden fans unfortunately, myself included. I've been begging for a new NG, bought NG2B the day it shadow dropped but still haven't preordered NG4 because everything I've seen of it makes me think it's going to be a game to buy on sale. I'm still waiting for something -- anything -- to convince me to pull the trigger.

>>715444594
Not disagreeing with you anon, that's kinda my point. For 99.9% of players, MNM is at best a one time playthrough, but most just won't enjoy it and will drop it before finishing. The few who do are the ones who will find that constant flow of bullshit to be something they miss in other games.

To be clear, I'm in that 99.9%. I finished MNM once on NG2, and once in NG2B. I hate MNM in NG2. NGB is fine, though I still prefer Hard, but NG2 is just unbalanced ass. I just get where the people who like it are coming from.

NG2 is only good in mission/survival mode

>>715439764
>Wo Long: Fromsoftware must go!
>Sekiro: Who must go?
>Rise of the Ronin: Fromsoftware must go!
>Elden Ring: Who must go?
>Monster Hunter Wilds: Fromsoftware must go!
>Nightreign: Who must go?
>....

>>715439764
I'm not buying it after that terrible Ryu gameplay they showed a few days ago.

Peak genre tier list
NG1 > Bayonetta > RE6 > DMC3

FF16 with several mods actually turns the game into a very solid action title. Namely a CE table for 2 more eikon skill slots per eikon and higher difficulty. Very fluid and fun.

>>715445097
I'm confused as to why Wilds is in here. Or really what this post is trying to say in general, but specifically Wilds is really throwing me off.

>>715445195
RE6?

>>715445097
only soulstoddler would compare nioh-likes and souls-likes

>>715445097
I find it bizarre that people think general audiences will ever get sick of action RPGs, what will actually kill souls is the next evolution of that genre

>>715445378
Resident Evil 6

>>715445097
KEK

>>715445472
Right but why are you listing it as a CAG?

>>715439764
>People will buy X because they hate a particular company and it's their way to give said company the middle finger rather than being genuinely interested on X and its merits as a game

It's Expedition 33 all over again; a literal shitpost purchase.

>>715445829
because it's an action game, and CAG isn't a real term

>>715446352
ok bros I think ng3 might be better than 2

>>715446028
Character Action Game is a subgenre. "Action Game" is an incredibly broad term, and can include nearly any game that focuses on combat. Control is an action game. Red Dead Redemption is an action game. Arkham is an action game. Gears of War is an action game. Diablo is an action game. Just like something like "Action RPG," Character Action is used to further define the subgenre so people know you're talking about a specific type of game within the larger Action genre. If you have a better term for it, go for it.

Character Action specifically refers to games where the focus is on tight, fast paced, complex, usually melee-based combat, generally being played out by a single character with a list of skills which expands but can eventually be fully completed to provide a full arsenal of movesets to the player.

>>715447014
The problem with this kind of definition is that it carries an expectation of quality with it. If a bad CAG comes out, people would just say it doesn’t count in the genre at all because it’s not complex enough or deep enough or whatever else. It’s not a real subgenre, especially not when people headcanon it to mean “games with the best combat systems” even though that leaves out games like RE4 or Nioh 2

>>715447014
thanks chat gpt

>>715447230
>RE4
Third person shooter, not an action game

>Nioh 2
Action RPG. Some action game trappings but at the end isn't an action game.

I think the biggest hypocrisy is the fact that the definition of action game is stretched by anons as far as possible so games like Nier Automata, RE4 or Nioh 2 are included but Soulslikes somehow "don't count".

souls likes don't count because they have shit combat so there's nothing to discuss and play with unlike re4, re6, nioh2, etc.

>>715447230
Nah, that's disingenuous bullshit. There are bad CAGs out there, like Ninja Blade on the 360, for example, or even DMC2.

RE4 is a third person shooter. It doesn't have the complex combat, combos, increasing list of skills, etc. that CAGs exemplify. RE4 plays the same at the beginning as it does at the end, you just get more guns to use. I adore the game, but it's not a CAG.

Nioh is closer to an Action RPG/Soulslike. As mentioned, CAGs generally don't have any customization -- you can focus on some skills to get to the final skill list, but in the end everyone has access to the same toolkit eventually. A game that focuses on builds and stats is inherently more in the RPG realm than the CAG realm, plus Nioh doesn't have complex combos or intricate systems; it's fast-paced, but generally execution is quite simple. That said, it's definitely one I could see being arguable for the genre, I just think it's got too many RPG/Soulslike elements to fit into the CAG category myself.

As always, categorizing things like this is a bit arbitrary, so it's not gonna be the same for everyone.

>>715447768
Similarly, I think anyone who doesn't recognize that Soulslikes are action games are idiots. That's the whole reason the subgenres exist; "Action game" is too broad of a category. Technically, Soulslikes are Action RPGs, but the Souls series has introduced so many elements that have become staples, that it's worth specifying games within even that subgenre which include those elements, especially because they often show up in games that otherwise AREN'T action RPGs, ala Hollow Knight. HK is primarily a Metroid-like, obviously, but has enough elements that I think it's worth also calling it a Soulslike, or a least a Metroid-like with Soulike elements.

My beloved

>>715448251
>RE4 plays the same at the beginning as it does at the end, you just get more guns to use. I adore the game, but it's not a CAG.
you quite literally get new equipment and learn how to play the game better, it doesn't play the same from begging to end

>>715448538
should've boughted it on the last sale...

>>715440375
Both Shadow of the Erdtree and Nightreign are awesome and beloved. Only shitters bitch about it (like they always do about everything).

Came here to see if anyone got the White mod for NG2B. Is it legit?

Ive been having fun with DmC:DE with turbo and hardcore modes enabled and using classic Dante skin
Why doesnt /v/ want me to like this game

>>715448749
>Came here to see if anyone got the White mod for NG2B. Is it legit?
yeah, its solid

>>715439256
https://youtu.be/FW2M2eoJvYo

>>715448934
https://youtu.be/8D8I0FUWrC8

When does MGR get good? Just beat the second boss

>>715449030
boss fights are the only good part...

>>715448443
That equipment doesn't change how you interact with the game in any fundamental way. You have five weapon types: handgun, machine gun, shotgun, sniper, explosives. The way you interact with ALL of them is aim and shoot, and the only difference is in fire rate, range and area of effect. The way you PLAY THE GAME doesn't evolve. By the time you get the TMP, you have 90% of the tools you'll get by the end of the game in terms of unique mechanics. There are no extensive mechanics to learn in terms of how your character plays, properties of moves, combos, etc. Again, by your definition, EVERY game is a character action game. You getting better at the game is not the game itself becoming more complex. You ignored everything I mentioned leading up to that sentence.

Why are you trying to include RE4? It's very clearly a Third Person Shooter. Like, it's the archetypal TPS since it set a lot of standards modern TPS games use. Stunning enemies and using a QTE to kick them in the face isn't a deep combat system. There's no benefit to trying to include it in a different genre.

>>715449030
It's honestly never great. It has good moments, and the music adds a lot of cheesy hype, but the Platinum jank and floaty combat marbles through the whole experience.

>>715448251
So CAGs need progression systems where you play differently at the start than the end, but Nioh doesn’t count because it’s an action RPG?
>>715449247
RE4 absolutely is a deep game, and the fact you think it isn’t is a sign of what’s wrong with CAG as a genre. People have strayed so far from the roots of the “genre” that they’ve forgotten about beat em up style combat fundamentals that games like RE4 and ironically even soulslikes focus on. There’s more depth in the simple act of moving, aiming, and shooting in RE4 than anything in MGR or DMC-style combo simulators with a billion moves. I don’t care if it’s a CAG or not, it’s a top tier action game.
>>715449514
MGR is a mediocre game at best. Normies like it because of the music and memes and final boss fight, literally nothing else about it is good.

>>715449247
different hitboxes and firerates already mean different interaction with enemies, different guns also have different stagger power, range, etc., etc. Thats like saying light and heavy attacks are the same thing except here you unlock them as the game progresses, and obviously you play differently if you use a shotgun vs a sniper rifle.
also,
>Again, by your definition, EVERY game is a character action game
I didnt say anything about cags other than that the term is illegitimate and only made to feel good for playing certain games
btw, Bayonetta has "everything" unlocked from the start outside of a couple of moves (those are mostly for flair) and weapons that arent particularly game changing a couple of gimmicks aside. Is it an action adventure something instead of a """"CAG"""?

>>715444169
>no other game throwing so much bullshit at you
rhythm games and shmups exist
ninja gayden 2 is nothing special

>>715449817
>So CAGs need progression systems where you play differently at the start than the end, but Nioh doesn’t count because it’s an action RPG?
I think progression systems in CAGs is more about allowing players to become acquainted with all of the tools available to the player without overwhelming them, but a good progression system is usually a sign of a good CAG, yes. Nioh, as I mentioned, has a strong focus on stats and builds. That's the RPG element that pushes it into the Action RPG genre for me. Again, in a CAG, everyone has the same tools available to them by the end of the game, where in something like Nioh, you're building stats, specializing builds, etc. The RPG style progression is a major element of the game, as opposed to a CAG where the progression is usually more about expanding your moveset which will eventually be fully unlocked.

>I don’t care if it’s a CAG or not, it’s a top tier action game.
Completely agree with that. Not sure what your point is then, though. I already said RE4 is an Action Game, in the TPS subgenre. Amazing game, and it does have its depth, but I can't agree that it has "more depth in the simple act of moving, aiming and shooting." It...just doesn't. It FEELS really good to do in that game, but it's not deep. It's just learning spacing and aiming for weak points.

>>715450043
>different hitboxes and firerates...different guns also have different stagger power, range, etc., etc.
Sure, but all of that is try of ANY TPS. In your mind, does TPS as a genre not exist?

>I didnt say anything about cags other than that the term is illegitimate and only made to feel good for playing certain games
Nothing about the term CAG implies quality. It's just a focus and expansion on certain elements of action games. The term exists to help people find similar games to others in the genre.

>Bayonetta...Is it an action adventure something instead of a """"CAG"""?
See above about progression in CAGs.

>>715450135
Fair, it's more accurate to say, no other character action game. I'd imagine there's a not insignificant overlap between people who enjoy hardcore schmups and people who like NG2 MNM.

>>715449817
>RE4 absolutely is a deep game
gunz the duel is a deep third person shooter not a crappy generic tps like resident evil 4

>>715450510
not really
most people cannot clear battle garegga, raiden
or even touhou on lunatic

does Stranger of Paradise count as a CAG or a soulslike?

>>715438856 (OP)
>Character Action
dumbest name ever alongside boomer shooter

>>715440648
>steals the spotlight from mh wilds by sheer luck despite being an hypeless asset flip because capcom fumbled royally and muh evanescence
sure thing buddy, see you at duskbloods' release

>>715444952
Sure, either that one or the master collection for NG1 sigma. If you own an xbox get Ninja Gaiden Black.

>>715450430
>Sure, but all of that is try of ANY TPS. In your mind, does TPS as a genre not exist?
the game is obviously a tps, and a survival horror, and an action adventure, all of these fit the game, just like an "action game" label and this one happenes exceed in action department to make it into this thread, just like NGB that can also be qualified as an action adventure while being a """CAG"""
>Nothing about the term CAG implies quality
yeah, the term was made to make you feel good for playing "action games, but deep and epic"

>>715450742
its an action game with really good combat, just like every other CAG

what sort of modifications would be needed to play these game with this controller?

>>715450742
Yes (chaos anhiliation game)

>>715441690
I used the one right off of vimm's without any modification and it worked fine

>>715450430
Nioh's stats and builds do not affect access to your tools. Everyone has the same tools available to them by the end of the game and a huge part of the progression is about expanding your moveset via unlocking skills, completing dojo missions and getting skill drops from boss fights. It's entirely about allowing players to become acquainted without being overwhelmed and keep the game fresh going onwards. Almost every action game in existence has a heavy focus on specific customization and "build" choices through weapon, style, stance, character, ability and even equipment choice. Nioh just gives you more to customize in this regard if you wish without sacrificing any of its combat depth and options in any way, and in many ways that only reflects the genre further in its implementation as it increases challenge flexibility.
This conversation is just retarded pussyfooting in general because games belong to multiple genres, people should just talk about videogames if they want to talk about videogames and the results will speak for themselves. Even though barely anyone in these threads knows a thing about any game, even the ones they try to artificially push or exclude.

>>715442274
Have you tried the mod from fiend busa? I've heard good things but haven't tried it yet.

>>715442812
Besides that there's wind path, UT, OT, iframes on certain attack animations. There's no shortage of options

>general thread spam on /v/
kill yourself

>>715439764
>TN + Platinum
I'm there day one

>"non-bait" edition
>99% of the thread is just genre dysphoria talks
Anyway I rewatched the IGN footage and noticed that bloodbind meter slowly replenishes itself during the combat which is icky. Also the berserk mode is activated via L3 + R3.

>>715453645
If ai, Dr, fe have generals action games will too. They will continue to get made until mods finally get rid all generals

>>715440902
>lost soul aside
it got delayed twice this year, idk man I think it won't deliver
>crimson desert
idk what that is

>>715454942
till the board is unusable because its only generals like web /vg/ was created

>>715448616
I've gotten more value out of it than almost any other game. It stays evergreen.

How do i beat Bloody palace in 3?
Like shit, been trying for months and i can't do it. Furthest i got was to 8000s.
The Hell Vanguards once they start doing more than one attack just fuck me. I don't get me started on the Big Spiders and Fallen Angels.
>Use Super Dante/Sparda
NO!

>>715445062
That's 3RE
3RE might as well be a ninja trial simulator

>>715454896
It's pretty slow and mainly goes up from landing hits with a bonus from OTs, but I think it'll be fine either way. They might like to focus on the big charged hits on the odachi but I don't expect it to be that much stronger as a moveset in function, so being able to swap into it often mid string will be more interesting and encouraged.

>>715456665
idk I never went past normal playthrough 10 years ago myself

>>715445263
damn shame how easy they made the base game, and the cooldown bullshit was annoying as hell. I do hope the devs get another crack at it tho.

Post your S rank report cards everyone.


Lmfao. *Goes back to let's playing webms of mashing """"""""""spectacle"""""""""

heres my S rank lil bwo

>>715450742
>>715451438
No Mission Results like every game in the OP. It doesn't count. Fuck off. It's not hard.

>>715454896
>L3 + R3
Ew. Games need to stop binding anything to clicking your fucking control stick. ESPECIALLY in action games

>>715458550
bro we play on keyboard who cares for pads

I finished my first playthrough of the Ninja Gaiden series and I enjoyed Razor's Edge more than Sigma 1.

>>715458686
Razor's Edge has by far the best gameplay. It just has trash levels that are all ugly and boring as hell.

Woah hey guys didn't see you there. Is is assault spy le CUHRAYZEEEEEEEEEEEEE???????

>>715459138
>assault spy
Yes? Frequently discussed in these threads when asking for indie recs.
Looking forward to Mightyreya

>>715458947
I thought Day 5 and 6 were good.

dmc fan taste

>>715459326
Oh ok thanks paragon lurker of 15 years.

>>715459419
Ryu gimp suit ahahahahahahahh. That one will never get old.

>>715456874
Yeah it's slow but I can already see it being abused in bad faith or due to skill issues. It's an uphill battle against these people though, so whatever I guess.
Anyway it was already implied by the UI but if google translate is to be trusted then weapon switching is in, swapping between the bloodbind form is gonna be sick as hell
https://www.famitsu.com/article/202506/44438

true?

Finally Shadow is playable!!!!!!!!! It's saved!!!!! The fans didit. What a piece of frickin garbage otherwise.

>>715441941
>make it about a female protagonist with huge ass/tits
That's what Yakumo should have been.

>>715460941
This. So much this. F*** action & discussion or whatever that word means. Just post ninja sluts already. You will really hurt my feelings I swear.

>>715449030
It's good from the start, you guys are insane. Not every games need to be NG2 or DMC3tier to be considered good. The combat is excellent in Rising even if the constant juice crushing gets old and you really only have one main weapon in the whole game. And the presentation is the best in the genre yet.

>>715461363
DMC1 is like a 14/10
2 - 6/10
3 - 7/10
4 - 8/10
DmC - 8/10
5 - 4/10

Ninja gayden is for posers kek

>>715461589
>DMC1 is like a 14/10
nostalgia is powerful

>>715461648
>Some n*gger gonna tell me it's nostalgia when he doesn't even know what slash cancelling is
Kys

dmc 1 is soooooo good bro :))))
proceeds to spam shotgun for the entire game and win

>>715461726
I do tho
>finished DMC1 DMD
It's not that good.
Kys you black gorilla

>>715461879
Post report card then tr00n.

>Le brute force game once & r teh expert
Ahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhaha lol

>>715461589
5 managed to kill the series, something not even 2 and DmC managed to do, so that score is pretty accurate.

>>715461873
Post S rank with shotgun only then :))))))))))

Or just grovel & kneel & get to sukkin

dmcgroids thinking that anyone cares for the fake grading the game gives instead of fun gameplay is what killed CAGs

>>715462247
>U r.............ninja dog
Meatspin.corn

>>715438856 (OP)
>NON BAIT EDITION
literally impossible, these threads only get worse

the game is literally called devil mid cry

dey game it be rly do called nigga side story

hm sounds like a fun adventure

>>715446352
Queen

>>715446352
Damn. This is literally me!! Subliminally that is. Which is to say not at all like me but the ant farm sure would like you to think so

this is where the first fun video game was made

>>715449030
When you get to Sam's dlc.

How do you feel about the souls concept of poise and applying it to a normal fighting game? I was thinking about how some people hate hyper armor and how some people hate enemies that get hitstunned out of everything and how you could get the best of both worlds and came up with something that is unintentionally similar to souls poise. Now I didn't look into this but from what I remember at least in some soils games you have poise, which determines how resilient you are to being hitstunned and every enemy has a poise value as well and all attacks in the game deal poise damage, when your poise goes to 0 you get hit stunned.

I think if you applied this to an action game it could allow more knowledgeable players to find ways to prevent enemies from constantly hyper armoring through stuff if they utilize attacks that either deal enough poise vs that attack outright or to use multiple faster attacks to deplete enough poise too.

And then you add KH2 type revenge values on top. What do you fags think?

>>715464147
Does it help you get S ranks or not?

Who gives a. SHIT.

>>715464147
yeah, bigger weapons should allow you to blow away ennemies who would normally tank your attacks and yet big weapons in action games are just slow with more damage and nothing else

>>715464147
isn't that the reason why smashtards hate brawl

Playing CAG is just like trying to solve a rubikks cube. Except your brainlet brain has so much fun shuffling colors together you forget it was ever a thing to be solved.

>>715464556
freudian slip to mention fighting games, I just meant action games.

>>715464434
I think it could add a lot more depth to all attacks in general. Some games use invincibility frames to fix the "hyper armor" issue and it just doesn't feel right to me

>>715464147
Literally what DMC has.

>>715464147
Jesus, what's with fighting game faggots invading every thread?
I'm so glad that genre died a dog's death.

>>715464815
>implying

>>715464861
>I'm so glad that genre died a dog's death.
implying cags are alive lol....
seethe more

>>715457710
>replace cooldowns with MP
>MP works like in wo long, you rapidly build it up by attacking
>can equip 4 eikons at the same time, they are tied to d-pad buttons like dante styles
>each eikon passively changes your weapon type and your magic type, elemental weaknesses are a thing again
>each eikon has 4 skill slots
>the game is much harder
>speed up filler side quests and cut down on "slowly run around" segments
>give better itemization on par with sick ass DLC accessories
Here
Perfection

>>715465370
>replace cooldowns with Max Payne
It's PAYNE!!! GET IM'

>>715439764
>REDEEM THE PRE-ORDER SAARS
I was considering getting it eventually but now I'll pirate it out of spite because of your incessant shilling.

>>715443424
Simple. Don't die.

>>715465619
incredibly based

I'm trying ng2b for the first time ( as well my first ng game) and I'm enjoying it, very different from DMC, Bayonetta etc. however if I have a criticism it's that the camera feels very combative at times, and sometimes I lose track of ryu in mobs of enemies.

>>715465802
You raped yourself. Play the first one

>>715465802
>muh camera
reminder that anyone who complains about the camera controls is on-par with the turbofaggot redditor journo from IGN.

>>715465926
You cunnyed urself. Shoulda played the original 2D stupid nerd faggot.

Reminder NG4 will be shit

>>715466024
Now you're getting it

>>715466124
Heil hitler!!!!

Am I the only one who got massive pervert vibes from Agnus in DMC4?

>>715465802
You choose the right game.
Abuse A+X whenever you lose sight of Ryu or whatever enemy you're fighting, it's a small jump that's automatically locking into ennemies, and it leads to guillotine throw (another A+X ) or enemy step or a flying swallow. Also abuse your camera reset button.

>>715466232
Agnus was a redditor so it fits.

>>715460004
Well it couldn't get any worse so...

>>715461589
I liked DMC4 but grading it higher than DMC3 is just peak contrarian.

>>715466283
Who's an anon?

>>715466447
>Dante does breakdances on pool tables in the cutscenes so it's poggers
Nah

>had ng master collection my wishlist for a while now
>everyone is now telling me to play ng2b
>look up
>released in january 2025
what went right?

Here me out

Combine Resident Evil with MGR. Normal mode plays like a kind of normal action game, typical sword slashes and using your gun to briefly stun enemies. However you enter aim mode and you manually aim at limbs to cause various effects like RE to set up aimed slashes (like MGR) to properly cut enemies limbs and heads off

Could it work?

we need more stand characters

Are the Bayo and original DMC anime actually any good?

>>715468346
the original DMC anime is shit, the only good thing about it is Dante being Dante, also that Dante is voiced by Reuben in the english dub

>>715459409
Anything becomes better when Momiji gets involved

>>715440492
>>715440789
>>715441143
So fucking based. TN back giving us the good stuff while NG fans get stuck with platslop

>>715440994
You unironically need to look up a guide on how to beat murai because he directly punishes you for playing the game the way it wants you to play for the majority of the game. You have to beat him with very specific punishes that aren't necessarily intuitive. He's probably the worst boss in the game, not because he's the hardest but primarily because he's not just poorly designed but he's also the first boss.

>>715470480
Skill issue

>>715445263
Maybe i'll give it a shot. Every time I looked at gameplay all I saw was a guy taking ages to kill the most basic looking, passive enemies. I get it's a JRPG but it seems so extreme with how much health enemies can have

>>715468678
Preach sister. Reuben did an immaculate job portraying 2 Dante in SMT Nocturne. A reminder he can never truly be replaced.

>>715470683
Trash mobs are weak no matter what but minibosses can be decently challenging if you amp their damage output
Health pools are actually tiny if you play well and do huge stagger combos

>>715459419
The fact that someone wants that upsets me quite a bit
And people try to exclusively blame devs for the soulless garbage we get

>>715470261
You don't like Nioh and only pretend to to annoy anons.

>>715462036
it's more that capcom going all-in on photorealism killed any series that doesnt make RE/MH money

>>715471169
An extremely weird statement to make, i've been making and posting my gameplay webms of Nioh for years.

>>715448841
Because the base version is shit, DE changed a lot about the combat to make it actually decent but DE for no good reason didn't get ported to PC

>>715459917
I get it, but it doesn't seem like it'll give any real advantage if you play like a retard. Also yeah that's one reason I can't take the weapon whining that seriously. Having at least 8 weapons and being able to seamlessly switch and combo between all of them will be insane.

>>715471831
people want to play as ryu not some retard faggot edgelord OC, there has been 0 proof ryu will have anything more than the dragon sword

>>715471831
>Having at least 8 weapons and being able to seamlessly switch and combo between all of them will be insane.
If you want NG to play like DMC, I guess. Goes to show who the audience for "NG"4 is.

>>715467424
I bet you love astral chain

Hold on bros I'm just charging an attack

>>715463760
If only it were longer

>>715461363
>NG2
>good

>>715471294
So based. I hope they develop ninja mode more but the ki pulse attacks are an interesting addition. Also hope they at least up enemy density, aggression and move sets since we're going 100 miles an hour now with ninja mode. Has anyone tried to see if style switch can cancel moves like in Jack's game?

>>715452163
LMAO

>>715458074
>pcfags have to call cheats trainers because they can't admit getting filtered by the so called casual console games
LMFAO

>>715459419
PRIVATE WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

>Nioh 3?
Already preordered
>NG4?
Already preordered

>>715476471
Also based

Rollan für Patty

>>715463760
>slowmo
>qte
Utter slop

>>715477376
Did anyone in here actually watch this?

>imagine Lady getting pinned against a gray wall, that's the same color of her fucking boring bitch-ass character who imperonates moms becuase she's literally an unholy wretch with no dignity whatsoever, while at the same time the demon-whore who suckled Mundus' big red tri-balls and had so much piss-stained demon cum splurged all over her hair, it got dyed blond, is being fisted with pizza up her matrix-2000 black fetish pants ripped apart, so hard the term yeast infection gets a new meaning, and with her last whoreish, skanky, breaths she coughs up the crusty, hell-cum out her ps2-octagon mouth, leaving her dark soul unfilled, yet her ass stuffed to the brim
View SameGoogleImgOpsSauceNAO 1722378146700560.gif, 2MiB, 268x210

>>715478454
you okay there

What are the best beat em ups? Like top 5 in terms of difficulty and mechanics?

>>715480789
The only one I've played is Ninja Warriors Once Again but it's awesome except for that travesty of a final boss

>>715448435
Unfathomably based AztezGOD. That game deserved so much better.

>>715480789
Sengoku 3

>>715466923
Oh shit, I'm making something similar.

>>715484438
Well share with the class. I like the concept quite a bit. Gun stuns them to let you approach safely, sword obviously lets you kill them fast. Add in some cool contextual CC attacks too and it's kind of a recipe for something awesome

>>715484972
>>715484438
>>715466923
It sounds like garbage.
Either the shooting is good enough there is no reason to bother with the melee combat, the melee combat is good enough you don't need to engage with the shooting or you force people to use both which goes against action games' very philosophy.

Basically you're making Wanted:Dead again.

>>715438856 (OP)
Does Dynasty Warriors Origins count?>>715466923
Wanted Dead did something kinda similar

>>715485323
>or you force people to use both which goes against action games' very philosophy.
No it doesn't lmao, what fucking philosophy is that?

>>715485481
You stop letting people use the game's mechanics at their own leisure and instead you railroad them to an specific shoot-melee-shoot-melee.
On top of taking away the game's speed and frantic pace because you have to stop to aim and shoot.

>>715485323
kek this sounds like the exact "argument" Mork made that proved he didn't understand any games other than memoshmupslop

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha
I just realized that the whole "shoot things, then when they're stunned you do amazing CC thing" is basically the modern Doom games.

>>715485641
>On top of taking away the game's speed and frantic pace because you have to stop to aim and shoot.
RE4 did that and it's one of the best action games ever made. So uhh yeah cope and seethe

>>715485641
>You stop letting people use the game's mechanics at their own leisure and instead you railroad them
Retard never seen a Mission Result above D. Too busy free styling! Woah! You're the DJ Hero!!!! Woop Woop!!!

>>715485641
>You stop letting people use the game's mechanics at their own leisure
That's not a core philosophy of action games. Majority of these games have enemies that ask you to do specific things to beat them.
>On top of taking away the game's speed and frantic pace because you have to stop to aim and shoot.
Who said you have to make the character stop to shoot? Either way, Resident Evil 4 is literally an action game whether you like it or not, it shares a lot of similar design principles as actual action games and mikami went and made God Hand directly after, a game with tank controls, no jump, and in general limited mobility.

Having a game that properly mixes aiming guns and swordplay can definitely work, it just hasn't been done properly. People bring up wanted:dead except wanted dead uses 3rd person shooting mechanics in THE most generic way possible.

>DJ hero
>bad
OK now that's just too far

>>715485732
Why do the OTs and RE4's kick feel good but Doom's glory kills not?

>>715487041
They do, you're just terrible at Doom

>>715484972
Nah right now it looks janky as fuck

>>715487434
What's your approach to the idea then

Who's ready for the DMC1 remake with the memorable voice casting of Justin Roland!

>>715485935
>Having a game that properly mixes aiming guns and swordplay can definitely work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqb-tQVfuDs
gunz the duel already exists
but the game is way too demanding

>>715485641
RE 6 disproves everything you're saying.

Why isn't God of War included in these threads? GoW 1 and 2 are god-tier and just as good as DMC

>>715487530
The idea came from me wanting more games like Vanquish and RE6, which no studios are making anymore.
You shoot at glowing weak spots to take off chunks of the enemies' armor, then you get to finish them or shoot at a mega weak spot to make them explode.
It's more gun heavy than what you said earlier. The melees are for "get the fuck away from me" and finishers.

>>715488581
nah gow combat is too shit. also just a fuck ton of puzzles and platforming segments

>>715491042
>also just a fuck ton of puzzles and platforming segments
Literally DMC1

>>715464147

The wonderful 101 already has this, using team attack or the gun will get the little guys to climb onto enemies and after a certain time you will stun enemies, letting them be juggled freely.

Bayonetta 3 also has this with the big enemies, but it is less elegant, you simply do enough damage with the summons until you "break" them; madame butterfly's special attack has the same effect on enemies too.

>>715488634
Not too bad. One of my favorite things about kamiya action games is that he always makes sure enemies have their body/armor destroyed the less health they have and it's always cool basically stripping the enemies down as you kill them. I could definitely see something like that for this where you have to break off their armor to reveal the fleshy bits

>DMC 1
>puzzles
Are you retarded?

>Heh if I nitpick one part of the full statement I WON!
Nice try cuck, try reading for once.

>>715491140
DMC1 is a shorter game and it has practically no puzzles

>there's an unlit torch next to a flaming torch
>i have flaming gauntlets
>hmmm better activate the almonds for this one

>>715491042
But enough about DMC3

>>715488634
If you haven't played them, I would highly recommend playing Lost Planet, and especially Lost Planet 2 with a gunsword.

>>715491175
Not exactly the same thing I was thinking of. The idea is that using the right moves will allow you to continue aggression but you have to have the right moves available and recognize the enemies attack to properly interrupt it.
It's not so much about full on stunning the enemies but being able to stop them from attacking but with more nuance to "armor" attacks.

Positioning, timing, reactions and moves equipped/character + enemy and their attacks ideally all play a role. The fast pace nature would mean if you're prepared, you can blow an enemies attack out, but if you're not prepared, get greedy going for a longer recovery move while they wind up their next action, different spacing, etc might prevent you from being able to deal enough poise to prevent them from doing the attack

>>715448435
>>715448538
>>715448616
>>715456234
>>715481563
based, this also has my approval, it's very stylized but does so from a place of being informed and mostly well researched. I love how each location is based on a specific real world Aztec city and has some of their landmarks, that enemies explode into hummingbirds when they die as a reference to soldiers being reborn as them in the afterlife, etc

There's no other decently well researched Mesoamerican action games (Marlow Briggs and the Mask of death is basically slop as far as it's authenticity is concerned, but is a bafflingly solid action game for it's price), but for other genres check out Tlatoani: Aztec Cities, Expedition Conquistador, Sixth Sun by saveslothstudio, Plus Ultra Legado, , Ancient Talke: ixkik' by Roddanchill, etc

Also for non game media, Onyx Equinox, Zotz (the comic) and Dream Rider, Codex Black, the upcoming Aztec batman film (see webm), Necahual, and Maya and the Three

t. mesoanon

>>715491747
I played the first one but wasn't really into it. I remember the environments being really big and the player speed being kinda slow. How's the second game? Is it better action-wise?
>>715491196
>break off their armor to reveal the fleshy bits
That's the exact part I'm working on. Fuck it, I'll record a clip of it.

>god hand is kino
>kamiya didn't work on it
Hmmmm

>>715491828
Appreciate the insight anon.

>>715448435
Nearly perfect game.

>>715491196
>>715492071

>>715449030
man if you get filtered by this utterly short and kino game you are cooked

>>715492071
Player speed is a bit faster since there's sprinting, both games can let you go fast if you get a hang of using the anchor but 2 improves on it even further. It improves on basically everything in general, even as a solo experience overall despite the campaign largely being sold as a 4 player co-op game. Level design has a lot of variety to it in terms of open areas and tighter zones but there is always multiple ways of going through each area, due to the multiplayer nature they put a lot of effort into each place as they're separated by rankings. The unlock system for guns, skills etc. being mostly RNG is the only thing approaching a downside and the game is just outstanding in all regards, one of the best games ever made and the way Capcom have handled the game and series is one of the most disgusting things they've done.

>>715476471
God Almighty descends from his heavenly throne, and offers you an ultimatum: one of these games must be a catastrophic disappointment. The other will be all you could have ever dreamed of and more. You alone must choose which game shall bear which fate.

Which answer unto God do you proffer, anon?

>>715493501
Looks good. I like the twin stick shooting too, I was thinking about that too.
I think adding vanquish style slow mo is a pretty good combo too.
Now add a katana and zandatsu

>>715438856 (OP)
>Character Action / Stylish Action
Nobody uses these. It's Cuhrayzee Action games.

>>715493925
No. Action Games. Simple as.

>>715494082
>>715493925
It is literally stylish action, that's the only name for it

>>715493925
only underages use anything other than hack & slash

>>715493501
If you want to keep the pace quick you might want to consider increasing the size of the weak spots, when they're that small it's going to be too finicky to hit them consistently even with slow-mo and especially if you're aiming two guns at once. Also I have to say it, the MC design looks atrocious.

Hack and Slash is a trash genre, only the first Ninja Gaiden was interesting because of the difficulty and the overall design of the game.

>>715495092
lmfao

>>715494667
That's on my to do list.
>the MC design looks atrocious
What don't you like about it?

>>715495161
whats so funny faggot

>>715495409
NGfags are a laugh riot

>>715493501
I miss Binary Domain
I've never played Binary Domain

>>715495748
They should rerelease it with the voice commands being exactly as janky as the original.

>>715439110
Warrior NG+ is maximum fun.

Am gonna be called a noob for this but I am NOT enjoying NSIC in Bayo 1.
Completely taking away Witch Time feels so cheap.
>but WT is not the main mechanic, dodge offset is
I know! I already have dodge offset down but it's not fun. The enemies just move too much.

>>715496741
Just play more and get good, remember it's not DMC, it's Bayo
Dodge offset, learn your accessories, learn your weapons, you'll be fine
It's a great game and Angel Slayer is where it really shines

How come we never talk about Hyrule Warriors?

Is it any good? Or is it a mindless hack and slash?

>>715496741
Took the training wheels off and now you have to play a real game

>>715497228
Musou/warriors games are their own separate thing from character action/curayzee action games

>>715496825
Haven't played DMC yet.

>>715498835
Seems retarded to keep the training wheels on for 90% of the game and only take it off for a small percentage of it.
Doesn't help that getting pure platinums is absolute hell because of the way verses are structured. I swear my enjoyment of the game is decreasing the more I play this stupid mode.

>>715500513
Record a random fight and I can give you tips

i'm making a game that's a mix of souls and cag, what unique mechanics would you like to see? also which cag game do you think has the absolute best animations that i should learn from?

Controversial opinion, but I'm looking forward to playing as Yakumo. I can see why fans of Ryu would be pissed though after Yaiba and Ragebound don't have Ryu as the main character. I don't know what's going on with Team Ninja.

>>715501368
>mix of souls and cag
do not add losing shit on death
>what unique mechanics would you like to see?
wallsplats and simillar enviromental interactions

>>715495092
based

*mogs every single player cag*

>>715501783
thank god my online cags are safe

>>715501368
>i'm making a game that's a mix of souls and cag
wtf does that even mean, how the fuck do you think that could even work. They're at odds with each other.

>>715501783
the peak of "it's technically complex but actually barebones when you break it down". pseud shit for retards

>>715480789
fight'n rage is top tier

>>715501593
>do not add losing shit on death
not gonna have it, i'm more focused on having the structure and exploration of souls, cag campaigns tend to suck compared to things like bloody palace
>wallsplats and simillar enviromental interactions
i'm actually planning to have wrestling moves and want to have something like drop kick normally enemy will fall to the ground but if they're close to the wall they will smash into it and receive more dmg
>>715501814
it's pretty simple
>combat=cag
>rest=souls

>>715502002
>i'm actually planning to have wrestling moves and want to have something like drop kick normally enemy will fall to the ground but if they're close to the wall they will smash into it and receive more dmg
good shit then, you can enemies hit each other when thrown from ng4 too, would be cool

>>715502002
>>rest=souls
what the fuck is that supposed to mean

>>715501492
I don't think it matters that much, at least not in Ragebound's case. It's not like Ryu is much of a character. The real issue is that Yakumo looks like a zoomer twink and Kenji looks so similar to classic Ryu that he might as well have just been classic Ryu. When Shinobi swapped Joe for Hotsuma they at least had the decency to make Hotsuma look cool and completely different. Even Jiro in the 3DS Shinobi was a better move.

>>715500603
Kind offer anon but I think I just need to hit my head a few more times before I finally get accustomed to this.

>>715495271
The outfit is bland and doesn't seem to mesh with the robot design, the zoomer hairstyle looks horrible and it just looks ugly and unappealing all around, I can't even tell if it's supposed to be male or female and it would look ridiculous regardless of which one. It looks like if modern Ubisoft or Disney was trying to make a reimagining of Brendan Frasier from The Mummy for a modern audience. I am sorry to whoever made it but I just really do not like it.

>>715502092
>you can enemies hit each other when thrown
Feels like that will be a little harder to pull off
>>715502164
>No missions
>actual exploration
>dungeons
>light rpg elements
>open levels instead of glorfied hallways

>>715502446
nig that's just nioh

>>715502642
The fuck are you talking about? nioh has
>missions
>dogshit exploration
>shit loot
>hallways
>combat that isn't anywhere as good as cag
also it had absolute dogshit variety, i dropped the second game when i reached the ice area and it was basically the first level but ice environment and the enemies are blue

>ANOTHER casual filtered by based Nioh
You love to see it

>>715501884
>it's technically complex but actually barebones when you break it down
shut the fuck up moron
even fighting games are not as demanding as gunz

>>715502446
>Feels like that will be a little harder to pull off
nah, shouldnt be hard to pull off, just turn an enemy into your hitbox that gives a certain reaction on contact

>>715503035
>fighting games
>demanding

>>715503140
king of fighters 13 is infamous for its combo trials
fighting games are hard

>>715503340
Those trials are a meme and KoF XIII is only second to Third Strike in poser games
Funnily enough Mork claims to love Turd Strike LMAO
Fighting games are a joke with a horrible, faggot, corporate and e-celeb worshipping paypiggy community you have to engage with and the games themselves are horribly designed

>>715503340
shmups and rhythm games must be the hardest games ever for you then so maybe you can fuck off out here instead retard

>>715503446
>Fighting games are a joke
but the genre is still alive unlike your dying genre
>>715503469
keep crying punk

>>715502329
Thanks for the feedback, anon. At one point I'm going to redesign it. That being said, a gender ambiguous pretty boy is what I am going for. Still, I swear the end product is going to look better.

>>715503607
playing gunz makes you the opposite of cool. it's like saying you're good at waku waku 7. no one cares nigga!!!!

>>715503607
>alive
At what cost? Dumbed down games for corporate sponsored e-celeb twitch faggots
The genre is a total joke though, the more you play the worse the genre becomes

>>715503805
>Dumbed down games
city of the wolves is not a dumbed down game

>>715504123
All modern fighting games are dumbed down shit compared to the old ones
Strive is an especially bad example

>>715504152
>Strive
but xrd and +r are still active games thanks to rollback

>>715504296
>active
>have to join a discord
>if you say anything against the mods or disagree or even have a different opinion then you get banned and locked out of your regions entire scene for the game
Nice "hardcore badass" scene you got there

>its le kof13 combo trial nigger vs. nigger who doesnt even play
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA KILL YOURSELVES NIGGER POSERS NIGGER SECONDARIES NIGGER SCRUBS AND NIGGER PARROTS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>715504480
Where's the person who doesn't play? I played fighting games competitively for 8 years and got the fuck out

>>715504350
right now there are 18 players in +r
you dont play fighting games
you are just a whiny bitch

>>715438856 (OP)
The only good DmC game was DmC: Devil May Cry. Combat was the best, visuals were fucking weird as shit but great, MC was Dante but better.

>>715504602
the one who says you need a discord for +r and xrd

>>715504743
>active
>18 players
And see >>715504602

>>715439764
Mgr2 looks like shit

>>715504835
you dont need a lot of players to play a fighting game

>>715439764
lmao

>>715493806
This. Attention span is at an all-time low.

>you cannot ever have problems with something
>if you do it's because you have a bad attention span

>>715505216
If you have to ask when something "gets good" instead of figuring it out yourself when to keep going or just drop it, then you're a drooling retard.

>>715503687
You can go for that if you want, but the design and aesthetic style still has to be appealing, when I said that I meant that it didn't look that way intentionally and that it was just ugly and didn't have any of its own style or personality, the design itself just looked dumb. I'm sure it's just a consequence of it being a work in progress but it's at least something worth keeping in mind when that day comes.

ninja gaiden is a beat em up

If I could Ninja Gaiden esque gameplay, but as a Star Wars Sith Lord, it would be a dream come true.

time spent in 3 dmc games vs. time spent in 1 ninja gaiden
'nuff said

>>715506606
wat

>>715502939
Many such cases

>>715506606
NG supremacy.

>>715510605
>one anon playing more of a game means it's objectively better
Are NGfags fucking retarded?

>>715510645
There's a correlation, he's not wrong

Wow, so any game I put more time into makes it better than other games? That means Starless Nymphomaniacs Paradise is better than NG

>>715510748
No, this just means you have 0 self control

>>715510952
Wait but I thought putting more time into games means they're better when it's NG? Now it means you have no self control?

This seems to be the thread to ask for it

There is apparently a gook or chink game being made right now that leans more towards the classic action genre than the current standard of souls, does anyone remember the name? And if they do, are there any news? It looked interesting.

>>715511220
Lost Soul Aside?

>>715511220
>>715511670
>Where Winds Meet
>Ballad of Antara
>Singleplayer Vindictus
>Tides of Annihilation
>Phantom Blade Zero
And I'm not gonna play a single one

>>715511986
Oh and the Wuchang game that ripped off Fromsoft assets for its first gameplay trailer

>>715511220
there's also spirit x strike and tides of annihilation

>>715495748
me too
i did

its funny how dmc dmc is the best looking dmc up to date

>>715512613
>DMC4 is best looking
ftfy

>>715512724
>>715512613
Trish in her lucha libre outfit is the best looking

>>715512724
it's pretty average and uninspired, better than 5, which is ugly af, but not particularly great

LMAOOOOOOOOO found this kino on youtube
https://youtu.be/QZCU4L2ykRA

>>715511986
This is exactly what happens every time there's a trailer with flashy sword flips and slow-mo camera pans. Everyone loses their minds, screams GOTY, then proceeds to never touch it again because the combat was just a polished tech demo with no soul. It's the Genshin Effect-style over substance and zero staying power.

uh oh

>>715513738
>check the top videos

>>715513872
old gow fans are more respectable than combo mashers who think the genre should be called character action

>>715513872
>Can I beat God of War without taking damage?
I remember videos Luke this used to be titled
>God of War | No damage run

>see a video titled "the person that BROKE god of war"
>check it
>it's speedtranny garbage

>>715513802
It's finally time.

>>715485323
>Basically you're making Wanted:Dead again.
Wanted dead is great

>>715515692
its mid, son

>>715515692
Mork, not every shitty game is a secret LE ARCADE masterpiece
Your idiotic and incorrect narrative of "b-but EVERYONE hated God Hand" needs to die

>>715515774
med, son

>>715506606
Lol

Nigger

This is how 3tards see themselves

>>715518142
Upvoted

>>715518142
Downtoked

>>715518342
>>715518251
Negative Karma for you sirs

>>715516460
>>715518142
>>715518251
>>715518251
>>715518342
>>715518430
>>715518342
Nanomachines, son

>>715501808
>>715501783
We need a revival of online cags like s4 league and gunz.

>>715519420
Gunz is about as much Character Action as Gears of War is

>>715438856 (OP)
bayo

>>715518142
dark souls 3 bros... they are making fun of us again...

played DMC3 today. Kinda mid, but playable. Not as fun as NG1 to me.

played DMC2 today. Absolutely shits on NG1

took a massive shit today, couldn't tell the difference between it and itagaki

>post an honest opinion
>get absolutely devoured by the unhinged dmc fanatics (that killed action games)
huh.. cool..

>>715522845
One more strike and I'll depict you as a crying wojack.

>>715522845
>NG cultist that doesn't even play
>uses the term mid
>hurr durr why did no one take my post seriously

>>715491042
>the game has variety therefore it’s shit

Average dmcuck

>>715511986
Most of those are souls slop

>>715522918
>>715522947

>>715515692
it’s shit

>>715523107
?

>>715523107
3tards killed action games by larping the game is so heckin d33p because they can mash in Bloody Palace then ignore the campaign outside of watching the epin cutscenes

Yeah if only it was as deep as hold Y to invincibly awesome at 5fps on the greatest hardware ever made

DMC fans didn't ruin action games.
Souls fans did.

Yeah CUHRAYZEEEEEE nig nogs ruined action games alright

CUHRAYZEEEEEE fags are 4 and 5 fans, dmc3 CHADS are humble chess piece murderers.

>>715524115
they aren't even the same genre
and hack & slash have been ruined longer than souls have been a thing

DMC has my axe

>call it final fantasy seven
>it's the first one
>call it star wars four
>it's the first one

>call it ninja gaiden
>its the best action game ever made

>3 fps
>the perfect framerate for the greatest action game on the greatest hardware in the world

>>715513738
Based gow chad exposing dmc 5 casuals.

Great thread guys

>>715524115
Two extremes of the retard spectrum. Two sides of the same coin.

dmc5 killed action games because every normie on earth played it on normal once, mindlessly mashed through the entire campaign and thought the entire genre is just baby button masher shit

Mashing combos isn't Character Action.

>>715526513
>because every normie on earth played it on normal once
shit games dont deserve to be replayed

character doing action isn't Character Action.

>>715523107
DMC literally started the hack and slash genre

>>715526817
That's why I never replayed Kusoge Gaiden

>Character Action games all happen to have Mission Results
>Everyone goes out of their way to ignore them & pretend jacking off in space is """""""""""skill"""""""""""
Holy kino nigger fanbase

Ninja gaiden is the peak of action games

>>715438856 (OP)
Hack n slash

/v/ going from singing Devil Trigger to loathing 5 as much as they loathe the average Ubisoft / Bethesda / Bioware game is so funny to me.

>>715527212
>one subhuman that is going to kill himself when ninja gayden 4 flops is /v/

>>715527212
I think its just posers and bandwagoners hopping off shilling dmcv nonstop

>>715527269
It's not just one shitposter; the entire board hates the fuck out of that game.

>>715440375
>Concord-tier dual disaster that was Shadow of the Erdtree and Nightreign
Can I have some of that shit you're smoking?

>>715439764
I'll pre order it when the complete edition comes out like 2 years after the release of the base game, obviously for like 30$ dollars.

>>715527019
Damn. I kneel Chadow sama. I won't go to skool 2morrow

>>715439764
doubt it. if its not hardcore enough all the ninja dogs will laugh at it. if its too hard the normies wont buy it. its lose lose for NG4. I'm gonna buy it though if its a return to form.

>>715527019
Huh my legs are kneeling on their own???

>>715493893
Nioh 3 for the catastrophic disappointment.
Ninja Gaiden 4 for all I could have ever dreamed of and more.

>>715526908
DMC? THE first real character action ever made. THE first real beat em up ever made. THE first real video game ever made. Heaven or Hell? Let's Rock Baby!!!!

>>715527019
Yep. I kneel & give fellatio

>>715477904
I did. It is a shit series.

>>715527019
Shut the flip up. No one cares. You're indian. or something.

>>715526513
i beat it on dmd on keyboard while having never played action games and the genre is baby button masher shit having played bayo/ng/dmc3 recently

>>715528136
Fellow knower

>>715527212
Everything was fine in /v/ town until DMC 5 became the most popular game in the series.

>>715477376
Friendly reminder that the director revealed in an interview that he hates DMC5 because it stole his thunder and his show and himself were the ones supposed to revive DMC.
Friendly reminder that said director got angry and claimed he never said that, only for the journo to quote the interview and the timestamp

>>715529901
holy kek

>>715524115
It's a mixture of Soulsfags and gachaslurpers.
>big budget studios realize that making game difficulty reliant on enemy design, mechanical complexity and demanding fast-paced combat emphasizing mental stack isn't really translating to sales while "memorize the attack pattern" does perfectly fine
>soulless Chinks fill the screen with particle effects and people think that's a suitable replacement for the action game niche that souls games aren't filling

>>715529901
Damn I hated it but now that an indian doesn't like it now I f***ing LOVE DMC5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just realized if you want a solid action game you have to play games from 15 - 20 years ago and bmups...

>>715530272
Uhhh sweaty. N-word is you.

>>715523129
it's good

>>715438856 (OP)
DMC games are clunky pieces of shit, Bayonetta is a logical evolution and felt way smoother with dodge offset being one of the most satisfying mechanics ever in a game. Ninja Gaiden Black is still 10/10

Everything since then is just a shameless disgusting ripoff or rehash

>>715530614
this post is surprisingly correct.

>>715530614
I will never play a Trannytta game no matter how hard you try, frogposter.

Duuude my ding dong is so huge cuz like. I mash triangle.................

>>715530185
Action games are niche because they're for people with high IQ.
Souls games are aimed to the average Joe so of course they're going to be dumber and more profitable.

Action games would stop being good if they aimed to the same mass audience as Souls games.

>>715530185
Action games are niche because they're for people with high IQ.
Souls games are aimed to the average Joe so of course they're going to be dumber and more profitable.

Action games would stop being good if they aimed to the same mass audience as Souls games.

>>715530870
kino post
>>715530967
anti-kino post

>>715531038
Downtoked

Thoughts on this Character Action video juego?

>>715531478
It's pogger, son

>>715530614
Fuck...

>>715531478
0/10 bait. It's not Character Action if you can't juggle with explosions going off every millisecond.

>>715530185
Did you come from an alternate reality where more than two big studios were ever making CAGs.

>>715531852
It has Mission Results. It's Character Action. Brainlet hack n slash retard. Go play Diablo

>>715439764
Lol no.
I hope it’s fun though and platinum doesn’t fuck it up with too much gimmick shit though

>>715531985
Slay qween

>>715531985
Diablo will eff up your wrist.........take it from me a 89 yo boomer

NG niggas, which string delimbs on dragonsword most reliability. These wolf men are fucking my shit up and I'm bored of talons

>>715532816
Use the silly string & pretend you're spider man

>>715532816
xxy on ds
forward y on claws

>>715532941
Thanks for wasting my goddamn time

>>715519420
>gunz
dont insult gunz like this
gunz the duel is a third person shooter and it requires more mechanical skill than crinja gayden, dmc or bayonetta

>>715532816
if i want to delimb some fuckers with the sword i find that yyy works best. great damage and tracks around you to hit anyone trying to flank or dodge.

DmC niggas, what buttons do I press to make Dante jump up?

>>715458442
not an argument

>>715530185
>mechanical complexity and demanding fast-paced combat emphasizing mental stack isn't really translating to sales
dragon ball fighterz sold 10 millions
your dying genre just sucks

>>715533049
its literally the most consistent delimb string on ds

>>715533356
I accept your concession?

>>715533384
neutral skip into 50/50 isn't mechanical complexity and demanding fast-paced combat emphasizing mental stack

>>715533085
you're right but I still consider them in the same genre
God I miss that era of good tps f2p games like freejack, microvolts, gunz, s4 league

>>715533325
um... uh... I don't know...
>t. S ranked every dmc game in DMD

>>715533407
is Hi Fi Rush a CAG?

why does no one ever talk about this 9/10?

>>715533657
Not if it didn't have this.

>>715533384
>dragon ball fighterz sold
Yeah, because it was a fucking dragon ball game nigga.

>>715533487
yeah
you must an evo champion to talk like that
show me your trophy

>>715533575
meh
fortnite is more comparable to gunz the duel than any dmc game

>>715534102
Nah I just watched Terry say nigger a few times and it rubbed off on me. It makes my stack buffer overflow

>>715532816
Why are you using dragon sword and not the scythe?

>>715534102
you must be a green square if you think modern arcsys games are good

>>715533990
strive sold 3 millions too

>>715533793
Not everyone cares about Transformers.
Platinum is not inherently a sign of must-buy.
Also no longer available for purchase because the license expired.

>>715534224
>modern arcsys games are good
i like them too
strive is not a bad game
baiken can eat shit

>>715530771
>character is a woman
>anon can't stop thinking about trannies when he sees her
How does this even happen?

>>715534486
sad

Meowning thread
https://x.com/TeamNINJAStudio/status/1945136270101111031

>>715524592
>CUHRAYZEEEEEE fags are 4 and 5 fans, dmc3 CHADS are humble chess piece murderers.
The line literally comes from 3 and was popular before the PS3 gen was a thing.

>>715536140
Not much to comment on but it's nice to see the UT getting blocked

>>715536428
pft. they are all secondaries who secretly hate dmc 3 because of "bad enemy designs" and other stupid shit, they moved on to other games like 4 and 5 the second they could.

>>715536428
NTA but the CUHRAYZEE idea is more about long air juggle combo MADs which while they did exist in 3 anyone playing the game could tell wasn't the standard gameplay while 4 and especially 5 leaned into it.
It's like if there were a new bing bing wahoo game where the intended experience was made to appeal to people who want the game to look like a speedrun.

>>715537107
>"bad enemy designs"
This is true tho, a lot of dmc 3 enemies are badly designed, like most of the recolored skeletons with 1 or 2 attacks each. Chess are generally trash too, maybe outside of that one fight on the literal chessboard when you fight against every piece type .

>>715537625
hm. seems like I've stumbled upon another secondary.

>>715537952
All I'm sayin is that DMC 1 had better enemy types than 3.

>>715538048
easier. I think you mean easier.

>>715513802
5 is good because it has that brown jewess that looks like she stinks

>>715538337
I really liked her until I heard her voice

>>715538465
I liked her twice as much when she started talking

>>715513738
most games in this genre dont let you juggle the enemies like dmc
darksiders, castlevania, dantes inferno or wolverine
that guy is stupid or something
The problem with the genre has always been low sales.

>>715514031
It's just the algorithm meta
>[Game] No Damage Run
>[Game] No Damage Speedrun
>[Game] No Damage Challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
>I tried beating [game] without taking damage
>Can you beat [game] without taking damage?

erm...

>>715538854
>The problem with the genre has always been low sales.
Look at that anon and his historical denialism

>>715539208
>AI is retarded
The sun is bright.

>>715538854
>most games in this genre dont let you juggle the enemies like dmc
>darksiders, castlevania, dantes inferno or wolverine
that was the point, dmc fans dismissing everything because it doesnt have epic combos

>>715539382
>dmc fans dismissing everything
dmc was always outsold by classic god of war
all games in the genre, with the exception of bayonetta and ninja gayden, were always inspired by the classic god of war and none of them managed to succeed

>>715539916
>none of them managed to succeed
Most of them sold well by 00s standards.

>>715533049
Hey, stop pretending to be me
>>715532941
Thanks but I got through that part with kusarigama in the end

>>715533793
I have to pirate it to get it
Put it on steam and I'd have bought it yesterday

>>715540181
come on
there is a reason why this genre is almost dead
less than 2 millions is not exactly acceptable for publishers
just look at bayonetta and sega
bayonetta sold above 2 millions and now is a nintendo exclusive

wow surprised this thread is still alive and hit bump limit. onto the next one!

>>715540656
It's a genre that is best suited to AA production in an environment where the only AA games that really succeed are """""indie""""" games.

>>715540656
>there is a reason why this genre is almost dead
Because souls formula is easier to make, cheaper and STARTED to sell better after being pushed hard. Demon's souls during late 00s sold less than a million copies.

>>715533793
You literally can't buy it anymore, making it more of a hassle to get

>>715540656
>there is a reason why this genre is almost dead
>replace main character with shit characters
>companies making profit but being retards saying "if it doesn't make 50000 trillion sales its a flop"
>sequels changing for retards who never liked the original games

New thread >>715541307