Thread 715439257

Is it good? Anybody here have it?

>>715439257 (OP)
Oh hey I do have that. Bought it like 2 months ago. I personally love it. I hear Windows drivers are shit. Linux vulkan-radeon was shit at first but they fixed that, so no issues with that. It's almost surreal playing nice looking games on max.

I went for the non-XT since it's only 15% slower at worst but $100 cheaper. Plus it OCs to near stock XT and stock XT is already well past the power to performance curve.

Who in their right minds would buy that gpu? Any gpu over 6600 or 2050 is overkill, why are you wasting money? you want to play aaa slop ue5 games?

>>715439671
I upgraded from regular 2080 and for 6 or more yrs in mind.

>>715439257 (OP)
It's good but the only game I play doesn't have FSR4 yet. And is online so I can't inject it without risking a ban.

ye I got it. plays every game I got at 165fps at 1440p

Works fine. Switched from 2070S, I used it at 4K with DLSS in Performance mode and FSR4 is a great replacement, I don't think DLSS is a reason to buy Nvidia anymore.

You can force FSR4 with OptiScaler in almost any DLSS/FSR2-3/XeSS game. I wouldn't use that in online multiplayer game with anti cheat, but otherwise, the multiplayer games have no issues running native 4K at 60 fps at least.

The drivers are stable, which is also ironic, since Nvidia's drivers this year shat the bed.

I didn't really try non-gaming stuff that stresses GPU

I use 7900xtx instead but amd drivers only aged like fine wine on linux

>>715439257 (OP)
I have it, very good for the price. Runs KCD2 in 4K and very high settings in 60 FPS. Of course it isn't as good at Raytracing, upscaling, and AIslop as Nvidia cards, but if you're like me and don't give a shit about that the 9070XT is a good choice.

>>715441568
makes me happy to hear that anon, im switching from 3060 to 6600 because im tired of nvidia stuff happening on linux

my zzz runs at silky smooth 40 fps + dips with my new saphire rx 9070 xt I am a bit disapointed.

>>715442042
What are your settings for most games?

>>715439257 (OP)
I was going to buy it, but then did the computer store have fucked up pricing and the 5070 ti was 100€ cheaper

>>715442042
How? I get avg of 50 on a 6650.

>>715439257 (OP)
Close enough in price to the Nvidia card you actually want that you might as well just get it, like everything else rdna.

>>715441217
>which is also ironic, since Nvidia's drivers this year shat the bed
They drank the koolaid.

It can't do ray tracing effects at 4k.
Buy a 5090

>>715439257 (OP)
i upgraded from 6800 to it and i dont know why.

>>715442217
9070xt can't do path tracing at 1080p either

>>715442217
5090 can't do path tracing at 4k.

>>715441956
The image quality on Linux is better than native on Windows and with more fps. FSR4 actually works.

>>715439257 (OP)
I wish they'd make a 9070XTX
For 4k gaming, FSR4 etc.

>>715442071
1080p and I remove most blurry effects I prefer crisp pixels.cpu is an "old" rysen but doenst go more than 48% when the game is running. installed on a ssd. The only possible issue I can see is launching the game through steam to get the switch controller to work.
A better benchmark would be the monster hunter one, that runs at 40 fps if I don't activate the fake frames option (90 otherwise), but it has shitty texture popups and half the mosnters on screen are giant triangles blobs

>>715439257 (OP)
I have one. It is the best GPU I have ever bought.

I play in 1440p with the frame limiter set to 60 or 90 FPS depending on the game, and the fan never even spins up, because the card is overpowered. lol The power draw is also very low with those settings. I just love this GPU.

>>715442739
Are you sure you didn't get an 8GB 9060 XT?

>>715442906
yes Im sure.

>>715442968
Then you got scammed
The polygon monster is an issue that only shows up if you have 8GB VRAM
the only time you might see it normally is the split second the game teleports you in a new zone and the fade in disappear

>>715443452
>dude reality doesn't count reddit tole me this and that
what a fucking imbecile you are holy shit.

>>715443603
Then what, you are using it on a system from 20 years ago?

>>715443603
I'm telling you this because i had that issue and it stopped after i got a gpu with more VRAM
Kill yourself anyway, you don't deserve to be helped

What are thermals and noise like?

>>715444389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bvT5XvG65Y
Has timestamps.

>>715439257 (OP)
objectively far inferior to a 7900XTX which can now be found for around the same price
what you have to realize about this card is people didn't shill it because they thought it was good or because they wanted it; they shilled it because they wanted nvidia to believe they wanted it and drop their prices
it's also now close enough in price to a 5070ti which outperforms it in nearly every regard, so people may as well get the card they actually want

>7900XTX buyer's remorse shills
le meow

>>715447362
>they shilled it because they wanted nvidia
>5070ti which outperforms it in nearly every regard
lol lmao

>>715449085
Why would 7900 XTX owners have buyer's remorse? It's quite a powerful card.
t. 9070 XT owner

>>715439579
The problem with AMD is that a good 90% of your features are locked to Adrenalin and you lose that with Linux.

>>715449468
Considering properitary AMD drivers will be gone and they'll support MESA fully the future might be bright. They should figure out something for HDMI.

>>715447362
>objectively far inferior to a 7900XTX which can now be found for around the same price
FSR4 lets the 9070XT have access to better image quality than the 7900XTX ever had. I will NOT go back to standard TAA or FSR3, you have no idea how ugly the are and you'll realize it once you use FSR4 or DLSS for the first time.

>>715449684
I hope so. I really want a port of Adrenalin to Linux. It's so fucking nice, and has a lot of fun features.

>>715449684
HDMI? Should I use display port with amd or something? Am i stupid?

>>715443725
>noooo I made shit up like reddit and you didn't donated you meany chud nazy incel bark bark bark

>>715450485
There's no HDMI 2.1 (and above I assume) support on Linux because HDMI is properitary. Intel uses some translation or something I guess, I don't get why can't we do the same. So yeah stick to Displayport if you're on Linux.

For some reason mine slowly uses less and less power after a few hours of playing. Eventually, the power draw drops to less than 100w and I end up with sub 30fps until I restart the game. I'm guessing it's a driver problem but I haven't heard of anyone else with this issue.

How's the software suite? Does it have a competent equivalent to Shadowplay and Nvenc?

>>715439257 (OP)
It's pretty much the 7800XT with lower power usage + FSR4, so yes, its a good card, much better that any trash Nvidia has putted out these last few years. I personally wouldn't buy a higher tier card since UE slop runs like ass anyways and they would only run "better" using the upscaling (I rather avoid this shit altogether), or worse, you got to use the fucking terrible 12pin Nvidia keeps shoving that is "well made" for their overpriced top of the line GPUs, while also losing things like PhysX on older vidya on the whole 5000 series, holy shit now that's a fuck up.
16Gb of Vram is the golden for high settings on vidya, if ya need more, then you simply don't have vidya as the main goal, like me kek.
t. RTX 3090 and 6800XT owner.

>>715450845
hmm, interesting info anon, i didnt know that hdmi was proprietary

>>715451353
It's considerably more powerful than a 7800XT.
It beats out the 7900xt sometimes.

I got the 9070 on day 1 pretty much, never have any problems with it.

Will PS6 be weaker than 9070 XT? In other words, can the 9070 XT last for 10 years (decreasing resolution and settings over time)?

>>715452409
FSR4 means you can run a game on ultra performance and it'll look good.

>>715452445
True. And FSR4 support should be more widespread from now on, at least for games that are also on PlayStation. You can mod it in too.
Is the 7500F sufficient or do I need to spend more on an x3d cpu

>>715450340
>>715449468
What the fuck do you need nu Catalyst Control Center for on a fucking 9070 XT?

>>715452914
A chip like that is for 4k gaming when your CPU wont get utilized nearly as much. X3D is for when you play at 1080p and want as many frames as possible.

>>715453106
AFMF2. Anti-Lag. Supersampling. Performance overlay. AMD's shitty recording software.

>>715447362
while true the future is moving to ray tracing, so 7900xtx is better now but the 9070 is better for the future

>>715453207
>AFMF2
Lossless Scaling Frame Gen 3.1 is better and now works on Linux too
>Anti-Lag
Literally not needed on Linux
>Supersampling
That's a very niche thing, if it's for old games, you can just force a higher render resolution on Linux
>Performance overlay
Gamescope and mangohud on Linux are much better
>AMD's shitty recording software.
I'm not a gay faggot so I don't record my screen but I'm sure there's alternatives

>>715453425
>lossless scaling
Stopped right here.
No.

>>715439257 (OP)
I wish they gave it more VRAM though.

>>715453580
Congratulations, you're a fucking idiot.

I've been thinking of building a new, 1440p PC towards the end of the year. Is this a good card to get or should I look for/wait for something else? AMD isn't doing another flagship card this year right?

>>715439257 (OP)
I have it. Not a single issue.

>>715453110
I see. I'm after upscaled 4k/60fps so I should be fine then. I'm still surprised that GTA VI should run well on PS5's CPU

>>715453757
It's good even for 4K with FSR4

>>715453106
Because "nu Catalyst Control Center" is literally the only way to unfuck half of AMD's janky-ass software stack right now. You want Radeon Chill off for one game, tweak FRTC, toggle enhanced sync, or figure out why AFMF is randomly nuking your framerate? Good luck doing that without digging through it. AMD can't give us a basic, modular control panel-they gotta bundle in a glitchy Chromium abomination with Discord-tier RAM usage just to untick a box. But hey, muh freedom, right?

>>715453798
Do consider though that some games are very heavily CPU-bound. Helldivers 2 comes to mind. Though that might not be what you're interested in, the possibility of games taxing your CPU for physics and game engine fuckery is still there.
It's why I went for a 7700X for my build.
That and I expected PS4 emulation to be far more taxing than it turned out to be. They're getting Bloodborne running on the Steamdeck. The fuck.

>>715452914
FSR4 "support" is literally irrelevant when you can force any game that supports any version of DLSS to just use FSR4

>>715439257 (OP)
No it is terrible. It is selling for $200 over MSRP and buying it at MSRP was a borderline rational decision. If you don't care about $200 over MSRP, buy NVIDIA.

>>715453887
This, too. Per game settings is just nice.
But then the retard tried to sell me on his snake oil slop, so now he gets his posts hidden like the mongoloid that he is.

>>715454000
It costs the same as non-TI RTX 5070 here, and that's really good since that thing scores 20k in time spy and 9070 xt scores 29k

>>715454000
It's equivalent is the 5070 ti, but at least where I'm at, the 9070 xt is ~$100 cheaper. the Nvidia card is better, but it's not a hundred dollars better

>>715454000
Cheapest 9070xt $700
Cheapest 5070ti $900
Only reason to buy the Nvidia card is for the brand name considering they're basically equal in performance.

>>715439257 (OP)
It has a nasty good undervolt, -50mV giving +150MHz max clock stable

Bought mine at microcenter at MSRP. XFX Swift 9070xt. It kicks ass.
It's just a graphics card, these days you only need to look at the max FPS on your game of choice compared to the price. They're mostly all just fine

>>715454191
That's good if you are running benchmarks, but most games 5070Ti is better

>>715454393
It's 7% better, has better game support, its software stack is much better. I'd pay $100 for that.

>>715454773
>it's 7% better
>https://youtu.be/aWfMibZ8t00

yeah on release drivers, maybe, not right now though

>>715439257 (OP)
Piggybacking this thread but anyone have a 5060 ti 16GB?

I have a 6750xt atm which is pretty comparable (maybe slightly less powerful overall) from what I've seen, but I need something for productivity, Premier, Photoshop, Blender, Stable Diffusion, Resolve. Fucking Lightroom has had a glitch with AMD gpu's apparently for years now and they just haven't fixed it.

I hate to buy Nvidia, especially now, but I'm getting real tired of this shit.

>>715454913
That video was wrong. The idiot ran benchmarks and compared them to benchmarks 6 months old. There is no fine wine, it was game optimizations. He admitted it. The shit head should pull the video

>>715454913
Damn son

>>715454474
PNY still sells the 5070 Ti for MSRP. It's what I got mine for. I originally thought I was going to get a 9070 XT this gen but it's impossible to get at MSRP.

>>715439257 (OP)
No, I have a 5090 because I'm not poor.

>>715442042
You are doing something very wrong.

>>715442042
$20 this niggas running on integrated graphics

>>715442042
>>715443603
Not those anon's but I have a shittier card then you and run games at 1440.
>LE REDDIT LEL REALITY

The Irony is what you're saying and card is isn't making any fucking sense you goof. Post post a screenshot of your specs.

>>715454474
They are similar in performance but DLSS is the standard everywhere. And no opticrap is not the magic solution it works worse than it should in many games and has a lot of issues.

Still if 9070XT is 150+ $ cheaper it's worth it.

>>715455558
This LOL. Or ancient CPU.

>>715455062
he mentions in the video whether or not a game got any kind of updates, most of the games didn't recive any updates and the ones that did were about bug fixes, though I do agree he should've re-tested with release drivers
Also if those games really got better optimized with updates RTX5070ti would also benefit from it right?

>>715455062
It was game optimization and windows but nothing he said was really wrong. AMD gained more performance in that time why would it matter if it's because of windows or AMD drivers?

Same shit happened with AMD CPUs last year they suddenly gained 5% more perf with new windows update.

>>715454474
If you do anything else other then gaming you should consider Nvidia.

>>715439257 (OP)
Chromium is bugged on this card, browser randomly starts stuttering if there are several youtube tabs open and one is playing a video with a high resolution. Also some games that may or may not have something to do with chromium (like Shadow Empire for example) also stutter above 1080p but it's fine in 99% of cases. It gets fixed for a while if you tab out of the browser window and its probably not an issue with firefox since it's not chromium.
This is a known driver/chromium issue on this card that has yet to be fixed.
literally started stuttering as I was writing this post

>>715455756
>updates RTX5070ti would also benefit from it right?
It did
>>715455918
>updates RTX5070ti would also benefit from it right?
A whole 1%. Most due to a few outliers.

>>715456168
Nvidia is only much faster in AI and Blender now.

>>715456205
Works on my machine (Vivaldi).

>>715439257 (OP)
I might buy it if it actually reaches the msrp

>>715457264
I don't know what vivaldi is but it's probably not chromium based.
it's literally listed in known issues on the driver info page, they haven't released a driver update in over a month now and I'm starting to wonder if it will ever be fixed

>>715439257 (OP)
I have it. It's okay but >>715440852 is untrue.

>>715439257 (OP)

Both RDNA4 and blackwell cards are probably the worst GPU generation in recent years.
Maybe it doesn't seem like that now, but will surely will once nvidia Rubin and UDNA specs are revealed next year.
The fact that these cards are selling relatively well is mostly attributed to YT reviewers brainwashing buyers to upgrade or FOMO due to tarrif war / hyperinflation risks. If you have at least 3000 series nvidia or 6000 radeon there's no good reason to upgrade this year.

>>715457495
How do you know which games this anon has? You can't prove him wrong.

>>715457729
I just upgraded from my 3070 ti cause its a terrible card and prices aren't nearly as bad as they were

>>715457495
>>715457757
i use 4k and 1440p so the results are mixed in the amd panel

>>715454773
>That's good if you are running benchmarks, but most games 5070Ti is better
Can you read faggot? I explicitly wrote NON TI

>>715439257 (OP)
Is AMD worth it if I don't want to Gentoo it up?

>>715458121
My bad, you can go back to your day of running benchmarks.

>>715458370
So you have no argument, cool. 9070 XT literally outperforms non ti 5070 IN GAMES and is CHEAPER, so why shouldn't people buy it?

>>715455403
yeah I'm sure it's my fault you believe unproven data like this

>>715455558
>>715455738
Are you really refusing reality? You are just getting weirder and weirder with that nonsensical shit

>>715457729
>want decent 16GB card
>don't want to pay $400
I'm just fucked. All I can do is wait.

>>715458607
There is no argument. I wouldn't buy anything if my options were yours. Buy something used or ask your Jarl to import more NVIDIA cards.

>>715451079
Sounds like it's overheating but I'm no expert

>>715459137
>I'm too poor now so I'll wait for the prices to increase before buying one
Oh, that's a good plan.

>>715459472
>Buy something used or ask your Jarl to import more NVIDIA cards.
>Jarl
Did you just reveal yourself as a janny who sees my IP?

>>715450487
>>715443725
>>715443691
>>715443603
>>715443452
>>715442968
>>715442906
post pic of box and gpu

Just buy an RTX 5070 (non ti)
The price to performance ratio drops off a cliff after that and the 12gb isn't going to matter over the cards useful lifespan
For maxing ue5 games out or path tracing you're right in the slot for 1080p quality or 1440p performance, which on transformer model is actually really good.

>>715458607
You miss out on things like dlss, ray reconstruction, and rt performance.

>>715458942
I'd rather believe a benchmark graph that lists everything you need than some random guy on a basket weaving forum that's probably plugged into his integrated graphics instead of the GPU and says literally nothing.

>>715459828
lmao this fjord-monkey has a jarl, point at him and laugh!

>>715458607
>9070 XT literally outperforms non ti 5070 IN GAMES and is CHEAPER

Where the fuck 9070xt is sold cheaper than 5070?
Cheapest 9070xt here is around 700€, while 5070 sometimes goes on a sale for 520. Do you mean 9070 non xt maybe?
In fact, even 5070ti is sometimes selling slightly below its msrp, while 9070xt prices just aren't moving at all.

>>715458607
Also a 9070xt pulls like 1.5x the amount of power of a 5070ti running full throttle. That can easily add another $100-$300 to your build unless it was already overbuilt, and if that's the case I'm not sure why you're doing anything other than buying a 5090.

>>715460404
>>715460496
NTA but if that's true why would anyone buy a 9070 let alone 9070 XT?

>So you have no argument, cool. 9070 XT literally outperforms non ti 5070 IN GAMES and is CHEAPER
in opposite world maybe lol. in reality the 9070xt is usually more expensive than the 5070ti

>>715461320
Show me

>>715460968
>why
One of the four:
-In third world shitholes the amd cards really are less expensive.
-At launch the 9070xt was $600 for an entire day if you lived near a microcenter
-You got memed by Reddit and GamersNexus into buying the objectively worse card for the same amount/possibly more
-Lisa is paying you rupees to shill

>>715460968
I bought my 9070xt for 3000 btw.
1 dollar is 3,65 PLN

>>715460968
>NTA but if that's true why would anyone buy a 9070 let alone 9070 XT?

because it's not true, that faggot it pulling outta his ass, non OC'd 9070xt consumes 304 watts, only the factory OC'd cards go up to 360ish watts same goes for 5070ti with OC'd cards

>>715461381
imagine shilling for a 4 trillion dollar jewish megacompany and their overpriced sand, they must pay you very well mr rasjesh

>>715461456
what currency is this, bros?

>>715461813
I literally just told you it's PLN

>>715461320
>in reality the 9070xt is usually more expensive than the 5070ti
US amazon prices are 750 for the 9070 xt, 830 for 5070 ti

>>715460968
because it's the better alternative to the 5070 and 5070ti
plus you can flash the bios of some 9070 with the xt version as a bonus
how the driver situation with nvidia now btw? still fucked on 4 and 5000 series

>>715461976
$80 is definitely worth it for the Nvidia features and RT though
>muh value
Go buy a 9060 or something used then you fucking faggot

>>715439257 (OP)
I have one and it's fine.
It really depends if the price is good or not.
Also it sucks for anything other than games, but for games it more than gets the job done.

>>715462054
>it's usually more expensive
>okay fine its not but I'm gonna move the goal posts
eat shit

>>715462252
9070xt literally not worth that much, wake me up when it's closer in price to the 5070 like it was supposed to be

>>715462054
RT is not worth anything because it's fucking bloat designed to slash your frames and make you upgrade sooner and there's hardly a difference now between DLSS and FSR4 which is what people usually mean by "Nvidia features".

>>715462429
I'm very happy with mine as I got it for MSRP when prices were going absolutely crazy.
I too am sick of board partners putting massive, overwrought coolers on every card to justify an upsell though.

>>715462429
In every benchmark, its closest comparison is the 5070 ti. they're both in a different tier of performance than the the not xt 9070 and the non ti 5070 which are likewise similar in overall performance to one another.

>>715461456
You can't just compare European prices to American MSRP. American MSRP is always before tax, in Europe you always display the price PLUS your fuckhuge 20%-25% sales tax. Also even on 4chan if an American poster says "I bought my XYZ for $500" he means he $500 PLUS his state sales tax, but when a European poster says "I bought it for €650" that already includes his 25% sales tax. So it's just a confusing mess to discuss.

>>715462429
>trades blows with 5070ti at worst, beats it by a considerable margin at best (COD BLOPS6)
>w-what about this nvidia sponsored tech demo that runs unreal engine 5 on top of a 20 year old game with TAAU performance (720p internal resolution)

why don't you grow a backbone and realize people rather pay 100 dollars less to get a card with better raster performance? if you stopped licking that corpo boot for a second you'd realize nobody gives a fuck about ray tracing?

>>715463181
>memetracing

>>715463181
Nobody is buying a 9070 XT for path tracing.

>>715462943
>>715463181
again with nonsensical tech demos with RTX crammed up as much as possible? why don't you show raster for once?

>>715463292
OH NONONONO

>>715463292
>raster
AMDjeets really do be living in 2015

>>715439257 (OP)
I have it. Zero issues with it. If I were buying today I'd get a 9060 xt because nothing I play even strains it at 1440p.

>>715463395
>1440p
Do radeoniggers really?

>>715463292
Technically raytraced but it's like 10% off the performance without. Keep in mind this is the 5070 non-ti and fsr3 (fsr4 would perform worse)

really working for that paycheck, huh?

>>715463504
Wait wrong image

>>715463483
Yes, I do. I'll move to 4k once OLEDs become the standard.

I want an nvidia card, what would you guys recommend in 2025?

>>715463773
Resolution, CPU, and games you want to play?

>>715463773
>i want a card based on brand name, not the best performing card for my budget

a bullet to the cranium is what i recommend, preferably a .45 ACP

I'm just going to buy this instead, it has a 5080 inside and it's the size of a Series S.

>>715464085
>a laptop 5080

absolutely not, save yourself the money and just build it together with normal desktop parts

>>715463773
1080p regardless of refresh rate : 5070
1440p/maybe optimized 4k : 5070ti
1440p/maybe optimized 4k+ : 5080
The card you really want/overkill 1440 and still requiring manual tweaking for 4k : 5090
>>715464085
Keep in mind a mobile 5080 is a bit weaker than a desktop 5070, in Steel Nomad Light it's roughly comparable to a 4070 super

>>715464396
I have a wife and a designer living room so it's the NUC or a console
And I like that it's so compact tbqhwyf

>>715464396
>>715464438
The NUC 5080 will probably perform between a 5070 and a 5070 Ti because it will be driven at much higher wattages than in an actual laptop.

Don't care.
I'm not spending 700 bucks on what should be a 500€ tier GPU.
It's the logical successor to the 7800 xt but it's considerably faster and AMDjews used that to sell it at near XTX-level.
My 7800xt will carry me through to UDNA.
FUCK ngoyida and nu-goyvidia.
I've been an AMD supporter for all my life and contributed to this sucess in the first place. I deserve more. Fuck pedocapitalists

>>715464946
>500€
In English we put the currency sign on the left, ESL.

>>715464946
Maybe complain about your 25% European sales tax before you complain about the price.

>>715464496
Just build a mini-itx and save a thousand dollars then lmao

>>715465865
Mini ITX is twice as large as the console shelf below my TV. It's still comically large compared to an Xbox or a NUC PC.

>>715461537
Thing about the 5070 Ti though is it undervolts so well. Saying it hits 360w is disingenuous because it doesn't hit that high unless you're insane and it isn't worth it at all in the first place. If you tweak the mem timings while undervolting you actually still get more performance over stock meanwhile it sips under 200w.

>>715465962
Just build this

>>715465962
There's plenty of <5L mITX builds

>>715466093
>>715466223
Thanks, I looked into those and apparently they work but the big caveat is that they only support low profile GPUs so basically 5060. It's much cheaper of course than a NUC but the 5080 in the NUC has 16GB VRAM and if I'm not mistaken 5060 comes with 8GB max. It is a lot cheaper though. I'll have to think about it.

>>715466317
There's plenty of cases that support full size

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apefSM59Ksk

Look around in this doc if you really care. Just know that it's totally doable.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/edit?gid=534210212#gid=534210212

>>715466486
Thanks again. I'd also like it to be usable horizontally, maybe that one you linked is, it's unclear at a glance. I guess I'll look up the size of the smallest 5070 Ti and try to find a case that fits under my TV and also fits the GPU. Maybe I can find something that works and that would be a lot cheaper than the NUC.

>>715442739
"Old" Ryzen? What is it exactly? What is your gpu utilization?

>>715463773
4070 ti super if you can get it for a reasonable priced. it's the only recent goyvidia card that resembles something that approaches value. it's essentially 2/3s of an RTX4090 for half the price.

is it a worthy upgrade if i have the 6700xt? the 9070 seems better just because it's ~$200 less on average, btw i play on 1440p but the only demanding game i've played so far was BG3, gpu prices got crazy, got my oem 6700xt for $170 two years ago

>>715466798
it's literally written in the sentence. 48% max with game and shit like steam/dischord/firefox running on the other screen. the cpu is like 4 years old iirc.

>>715467442
every single rx9000 series card is worth it over previous radeon because of the upgrade to image quality
FSR4 is noticeably better than baseline TAA and especially better than FSR3. having a good ML upscaler is literally 90% of why goyvidia has been winning the last half-decade and finally AMD has one too

>>715467442
If you're not playing anything demanding don't bother. It's not worth it. I fell for the tariff fear-mongering and bought a 9070xt that I don't really need for anything except Rise of the Ronin and even that I could just drop the settings and play on a cheaper card.

>>715467442
No. Its double the performance for 4x the price. Keep your 6700XT. In like 4 months there will be less competition for N4P and prices will go to at least MSRP.

>>715467667
it varies on the game. not every game has perfect fsr or dlss implementation in general. wuthering waves and doom are both nvidia sponsored and they have terrible dlss ghosting. its so bad that it gives motion sickness in general.

>>715467881
DLSS and FSR should be for realism-oriented games. Forcing it on 2.5D anime artstyle seems beyond retarded.

>>715467667
>it over previous radeon because of the upgrade to image quality
DLSS is even better, and has been for a long time now. It's time to give in and buy the RTX card anon

>>715467948
They work just fine in Hi-Fi Rush. Heavily cel shaded cartoon game. Same Unreal Engine as Wuthering Waves. It's 100% developer side.

>>715467667
You're right but I still think anyone that can hold out for next gen AMD should because they're going to abandon RDNA4 for UDNA. We already see how bad AMD's track record is supporting previous architectures with no FSR4 support for RDNA3.

>>715467982
I have one PC with an RTX 4090, another weaker one with a 9060XT. DLSS is indeed better but the gap is noticeably smaller now. It used to be FSR2-3 <<<<<< DLSS2-3 but now it's FSR4 << DLSS4 which is firmly within the realm of 'good enough'

>>715467461
I thought the 48% was your CPU. Either way I think you're CPU bottlenecked. I have a 5700X and it bottlenecks my 9070 XT in some games at 1440p.

No one should be worried about tariffs right now. 9070XT probably has like 100% margins at its current price. It is selling as high as you can make it. Tariffs don't affect products with such high margins. People are already dropping out of the discrete GPU market and buying a PS5 Pro (no games).

There is no rush to buy a 9070XT before new tariffs kick in.

>>715467982
The 9060 and 9070 cards have closed most of the gaps in upscaling and raytracing. They aren't a full generation behind anymore.

>>715468336
>9070XT probably has like 100% margins at its current price. It is selling as high as you can make it. Tariffs don't affect products with such high margin
He doesn't know

>>715467982
SAR BLEASE GIVE INTO MY SHILLING I NEED TO MAKE RUPEES
your mom's a whore, patel

>>715468387
They closed the gap in image quality but not in game support. You still have to hack half the games in with Optiscaler with mixed results.

>>715468176
>>715468387
>>715468552
>Enables ray reconstruction in you're path

>>715463390
>giving up 80fps for some reflections

raytracing in its current form is a worse gimmick than physx ever was

>>715470129
>some reflections
Reflections are a considerable part of the visual presentation. Turn off all reflections and let's see what your game looks like.

>>715470228
>uses SSR in your path
whoa Battlefield 1 looks like THAT?

The performance hit is too large to justify an incremental improvement over "legacy" tech.

uth duna this week?

>>715470353
>uses SSR
please don't make me puke
would rather use the most basic cubemaps than SSR, it's beyond ugly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w839gFiJjn4

>>715470475
also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cld6c1ALw80

>>715470129
Raytraced reflections is the only raytracing I turn on. It's not THAT demanding and in Cyberpunk especially it makes a world of difference. Look at the water with and without it.

>>715470475
>cherrypicking a dogshit implementation

I accept your concession

>>715470545
>driver issues which were patched out
wew

>>715470616
>a dogshit implementation
It's not a dogshit implementation, it's literally how SSR works. They're just a copy of visual information that already exists on screen, which means that as soon as you move or get an unflattering angle or you look away from the source of the information, the reflections look awful or disappear outright. SSR is shit and only the most tech-retarded cretin or the poorest poorfag would champion it, it's no better than some shitty Reshade hack.

>>715470739
works on my machine

>>715470129
>raytracing in its current form is a worse gimmick than physx ever was
Raytracing is visually transformative in the rare few games that are actually built with raytracing in mind, or when the developers aren't consolebrained retards. But those games are few because games are graphically built with last-gen consolers in mind, so raytracing is an afterthought. Once the next generation of consoles comes out with solid RT hardware, you'll see a lot of good RT implementations.

>>715462429
>must play on low to use path tracing

Literally why would anyone use that trash? Just play without path tracing.

>>715463504

Nvidia is currently much better with PT because AMD has no ray reconstruction.

But PT is literally never worth it. 5070Ti needs to use DLSS balanced and framegen for decent experience. And this is only going to get more demanding.

>>715439257 (OP)
To me, it was worth it, especially compared to the scalped RTX 3070 ti I bought in 2020 that cost me $1200. But I still payed $100 over MSRP because the steellegend had lights. Wish I didn't cancel my $600 Asus Prime. Tough to get in time even with stock apps and they stopped drip-feeding them throughout the days they're restocked. Though, my 2-year-old 750w PSU isn't enough and keeping it from pegging it to ~315w through PCIe is tricky in intensive games like Oblivion Remastered. Shame about the low compatibility of AFMF 2.1, though. Had to stick to Lossless Scaling for things like RTX Remix mods, although AFMF tears a lot more.

>>715470940
>visually transformative
If you had me play 30 minutes of both with and without raytracing, I wouldn't be able to tell you which was which. Outside of side by side images, it's just a shitty gimmick that adds nothing.

>>715454913
>>715455065
>>715463292
This was already disproven you retards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf1q1nwoj8k

Hardware Unboxed is full of morons who don't know how to properly benchmark.

>>715472528
>disproven
It is still that much faster since launch. Nothing about the numbers are wrong.

>>715472528
They know how to properly benchmark they're just being purposely disingenuous. Watch their response to the techyescity video, Steves a slimy little amd nigger.

>>715456205
>using Chromium
you get what you fucking deserve

>>715456205
This is actually an issue on Nvidia right now too, or just an issue with chromium.
Source : Me, I own a 5000 card

>>715472528
He literally agrees that it's faster but it's not because of drivers but probably windows.

>>715470940
>Raytracing is visually transformative

Not worth performance drop. RT is -50% and PT is another -50%. 5070 ti needs dlss4 balanced mode to stay around 60fps in Doom or Cyberpunk so you can use multi framegen for passable experience.

Much better to just use DLAA and get 200fps that feel like 200fps.

>>715473726
>RT is -50% and PT is another -50%
Bullshit, even on rdna2 it wasn't that bad

>>715473973
>even on rdna2 it wasn't that bad
the rtx 2080 ti runs Cyberpunk with PT on at like 5 fps.

>>715473973
Without RT they both get over 120 fps.

>>715473129
I found out that if you have 2 browser windows open and one of them is on youtube the stuttering doesn't happen. I just keep one window open on youtube home page on my second monitor and there is no stuttering. Might be both a chromium/driver issue.
You should try that if you have 2 monitors, splitting your tabs into 2 windows might work as well.

>>715452409
>Will PS6 be weaker than 9070 XT
very likely

equvalent of the ps5 is a Rx 6700 (non XT) so its safe to assume the ps6 will have an RX 9060 at best

>>715474654
CP2077 needs at least ray traced shadows or it looks like utter shit.

>>715466317
>the big caveat is that they only support low profile GPUs
no the big caveat is that their cooling is fucking ass so enjoy heavy throttling

>>715470940
>in the rare few games that are actually built with raytracing in mind
for developers maybe, but for players it does jack shit other than sap 80+fps from you, its too high a cost for just ONE graphics effect

>>715472460
>If you had me play 30 minutes of both with and without raytracing, I wouldn't be able to tell you which was which.
You wouldn't. I would, because I'm not blind.
>>715473726
>Not worth performance drop. RT is -50%
This ish how you reveal your graphics card. If RT is halving your framerate, you're probably on an older RDNA card or RTX2000 card. I'm on a 4090 and turning on RT incurs between 15 and 25% performance loss depending on the game.

>>715476317
>its too high a cost for just ONE graphics effect
No. Turning bloom on and off is one graphics effect. Proper RT can literally make a game look two generations newer than the non-RT version.

>>715476632
ok jensen

>>715473726
I just tested this, was a 20% difference between pt and rt in cyberpunk. Psycho rt vs no rt was 40% but I was cpu limited (but not with rt off?), gpu utilization of like 70%

>>715477559
>Turn on ray tracing to make game look better
>Have to turn on 10 ai gimmicks that make the game look worse to make it playable
Woah.

>>715478585
Framerate was like 80 even before framegen in pt though

>>715456205
Works on my machine.

>>715478632
With DLSS on performance.

>>715478910
Native (but not dlaa) you filthy nigger :)

>>715439257 (OP)
How many CUDA cores does it have? Zero? Garbage.

>>715472528
I guess I'll buy 5070 ti next

>>715480283
but they dont even work. nonstop driver issues. i literally sold mines last week.

>>715480471
I'll wait another 1-2 years for my 3060ti to die, don't know why you selling mines has any relevance tho

>>715442217
5090 is for chumps with more money than sense, it's not really meant to be purchased which is why it sets on fire randomly

Is there a consensus on which model is the best? Where I live the price difference between them is like $100 at most and usually less

>>715439257 (OP)
It's good on paper, but the price sucks

>>715481101
sapphire,powercolor,xfx,asrock
they all include ptm so just get the cheapest one or whatever looks best to you

I'm excited to put a 4Gb GPU in my shitty old APU mid tower and play some old games