what's the point of this guy if scout can infiltrate the backline easier on most maps with speed/jumps, kills unaware players about as fast, and has a drink that lets you ignore sentries aka the only thing disguises have been good for in 10 years
>what about overhealed heavies
just play sniper lol

>>715470163 (OP)
He’s fun.

The game needs two instant kill assassin classes. Sniper cannot shoot Heavy and his Medic simultaneously, outside of comically rare Machina setups.

>>715470163 (OP)
I have never seen a bonk scout get away safely and if he does manage to get into the backline and fuck around spawn any competent player will either ignore it or kill it on sight.

>>715470163 (OP)
TF2 would be better if it were like Battlefront and had a generalist with an assault rifle

Actual worst class in game.
Only good for pubstomping.
Falls apart if opponent is has working brain cells.
At least pyro can airblast and push with uber.
Spy just does nothing against good players.

>>715472168
>Spy just does nothing against good players.
You'd be surprised how much a gun spy can actually do, against higher tier opponents you just gun them down, assuming you can aim in the first place.

>>715472168
Spy is the most situational and hardest class to master in the game which makes people good at him the most skilled players. Also having a truly stealth playstyle like dishonored and hitman but in a multiplayer shooter is absolute kino and no other game has achieved this as well.

>>715470163 (OP)
To equip the kunai and be an annoying fuckwad using clueless children as walking medpacks while the one player with his monitor turned on tries to desperately gun him down before he eats yet ANOTHER fucking non-sentient teammate

Ssssh

Spy is fine in a chaotic fight. He does well in higher player count servers where there is just more shit going on at any given time.

In regards to killing people, Spy's usefulness comes in when the teams are evenly matched and forcing the enemies to chase around a Spy and watch their backs so they don't get instakilled is more useful at lowering their effectiveness than another direct combat class.
If the other team is stronger you're shit out of luck since they can afford to spycheck, and if they're weaker you're winning anyway.

>>715470163 (OP)
>what's the point of this guy if scout can infiltrate the backline easier on most maps with speed/jumps, kills unaware players about as fast, and has a drink that lets you ignore sentries aka the only thing disguises have been good for in 10 years
FOR FUN
Not everything has to be about competition.
If it was, then we'd have competitions where dads would compare their sons and everyone would ask your dad what the point of you was if he could just adopt an Australian who isn't a useless faggot.

scout is fast, but not sneaky. Also spy can kill faster than scout and spy is primarily on the backlines to fuck with engineers and snipers. scout really doesn't have much of an answer to a level 3 sentry other than corner peaking it or trying to pistol it from afar.

similar goals, different goals and different play styles. Honestly, if you'd rather play scout and constantly flank you can get a lot of value out of it without having to gamble with spy's strengths and weaknesses.

>>715473421
>>715472724
do you find it fun spending three minutes to kill one heavy and then getting instantly wasted by the rest of the team - unless you use the DR and then you sit there doing nothing for even longer then a respawn? why not play a single player stealth game at this point?

>>715474532
>do you find it fun spending three minutes to kill one heavy and then getting instantly wasted by the rest of the team
two words buddy
skill issue

>>715475280
it's a skill issue for the team you're fighting if they don't turn around, its true

>>715470163 (OP)
>koth_sawmill
>pick spy and attempt to reenact ster and jerma's ambassador spree
>suck ass at aiming but still manage to harass them a lot
>they come after me
>juke the fuck out of them with cloak n' dagger
>keep moving into wherever they just check so they never find me and assume I've ran away
>wait, uncloak, and harass some more
>keep changing spots afterwards, every corner, every rooftop, behind spawn, under the stairs at the point
>doesn't even matter if I die because the more places I shoot them from the more their paranoia increases
>keep picking off low health targets and killing the medic, giggling like a dumb asshole all the way through
>there are other 2 spies doing this same shit
>enemy team is audibly going insane in vc from our shenanigans to the point they pay more attention to us than the objective
>win
you wouldn't get it

>>715474532
>implying I'm just going for picks
>implying I'm not long distance sniping the engy's tele with the stock revolver and then blocking the logistical chain of getting people to the frontline by wasting his time for like 3 minutes
Do you only play to get points on the scoreboard or do you like actually supporting your team in completing the objective?
Part of spy is creating an air of paranoia or just hogging up the other team's resources and making them respond to little shit and taking away people from where they should be

>>715480368
or you could just run up to it as scout and blow it up and then actually be useful. I just don't find deliberately wasting time fun in this game, nothing personel kiddo

there's zero reason to play spy other than for the challenge
there is nothing he does that another class cant do better

>>715470163 (OP)
Spy has been mechanically irrelevant since like 2008. He desperately needed the support options he had that got cut (tranq gun, sentry decoys, etc)