What were they thinking when they made this character?

>>715538910 (OP)
I like her

>>715538910 (OP)
"gato sexo"

>>715538910 (OP)
What if real Sphene dies and Wuk becomes a Scion?

>>715538910 (OP)
"Everyonnu on fooruchan is callingu succesfuru geimus "Transsu Geimu"s. Ne, wee needy to addy transsu for succesfuru geimu."

>>715538910 (OP)
They thought you would love and root for her

>>715538910 (OP)
think?

>>715538910 (OP)
>The WoL is too powerful, so let's instead have him raise up a successor for the New World.
>People like genki tomboys who are afraid to be vulnerable, right?
>Since this story is about becoming a sensei we need to really focus on the student to endear her to the players.
Good framework, poor execution.
If they gave her more time to develop over the course of multiple expansions instead of trying to have a full arc in 7.0 she would've been better received.

>>715538910 (OP)
I knew you were gonna make another thread after you got your ass beaten in the previous one.

>>715538910 (OP)
>she is so strong sugeeee"

>>715539417
You're online little nigga, calm your little bitch ass down.

>>715539417
he was getting an absolutely RIGHTEOUS ass-beating too

>>715539513
Now to repeat it.

>>715539204
>Fanfest 2026
>Yoshi P on stage, ready to reveal the next expansion "And now let's play the trailer!"
>Screen fades in from black
>Wuk Lamat on screen
>She looks directly at the screen and smiles
>Entire audience erupts in booing
>Booing lasts for 5 minutes straight, the entire trailer
>Yoshi P, Kate, and the rest of the team on stage cannot stop the booing.
>Yoshi and co completley demoralized, no idea what to do.
>They try to akwardly just keep the show going, but every time they show a new slide with Wuk on it audience erupts in booing again

A small part of me genuinely wants this to happen just to see what the fallout would be, but I don't think it'd be worth the game dying (because that's how it would ultimately end).

>>715538910 (OP)
Shut up

>>715539569
So it'll be the Valve Artifact reveal again, with even more booing?

>queue into P11N for mog tome challenge
>fight starts
>holy fucking boss hitbox
In hindsight, it was really bad.

>>715539417
>>715539513
>>715539567
Hey friendo, you're free to make your own thread, we're going to be shitting on Dawntrail here. If that bothers you, then I'm sorry. We're not going to be giving you any attention though so if you choose to camp this thread (like every other thread) than you're going to be seething into the void.

>>715539798
Don't respond to him, he's an extremely mentally ill samefag who just wants to derail any threads criticial of his beloved Dawntrail (he has never played FFXIV btw). Engaging with him is exactly what he wants you to do because it will help enable him to derail the thread into pointless bickering over who-is-who's boogieman. Just keep dunking on Yawnfail and let him cry about it.

>>715539624
Kind of crazy how that happens, where literally no one likes a character except for all the people directly involved in the production.

>Character that is taller than me with a even more bigger axe and has experience in battle with a power similar to our strongest companions it's a princess that never left the main city
It's very hard to believe

>>715539798
>We're not going to be giving you any attention though
Who are you trying convince lmao.
The slightest positive comment about the game will set you off screaming about Homestuck and GCBTW Whiteknights.

>>715539970
>Character that is taller than me
stop playing midlander, lalafell, female au ra and miqo'te

What is the final solution to the modbeast question?

>>715540038
Midlander is canon tho.

I'm farming all the ShB ex mounts with these moogle events lol

>>715539624
Remember when he said that Kate and Sena we're the "Beatng heart of Dawntrail"? Outright saying that Kate herself is responsible for "8)% of whatever you liked about Dawntrail". Which is insane, straight up dismissing the hard work of literally everyone else who worked on the game to say this fucking localizer is the most important person on the entire team.

>>715538910 (OP)
>let's take lyse, who we canned because she was unpopular
>now remove the benefit of having some degree of MSQ presence beforehand
>and make her ugly
>and make her furry
>and make her even more omnipresent
>and make her name the most spoken word
>and make her jump into the final trial
>and take all the narrative credit for the kills
At least they're not risk-averse I guess?
I would never suggest going full ham into shilling a character unless I was dead-certain the fanbase would like them.

>>715540208
>kick rocks
I see this phrase almost exclusively from a specific kind of person to the point where it's kind of weird. Which university does this shit come from?

>>715540208
The only thing people were glazing DT for was the combat content. How does the localizer contribute to that?

>wuk lamat seethe
>twitter screenshots
>samefag crying while doing it himself
>mentions of getting whipped in some other thread
Oh yeah.

It's a thread by little buddy.

>>715540064
Would all of them. Except the weird fucking cyborg thing.

Dawntrail is great expansion if you don't live on twitter

>>715540338
How the fuck does the chinese mobile version how such SOULFUL UI's compared to the retail version? I especially loved the mail UI where a moogle pops out and does a little spin to show off your mail. Where is that kind of love with the retail version, Yoshida?

>>715540338
Western release when?

>>715540156
Same. I've so far been cbaing on them because it's a whole process. I've got 3 of them now.
I'll probably get the lynxes the same way.

>>715540489
never. now buy the $42 mogslop you fucking goyim

>>715540458
It's a pretty shit expansion if you're not a shiteater.

>>715538910 (OP)
>They will LOVE her!

>>715540571
>99 results

>>715540420
L.B. going at it, L.B. going at it! He's getting jiggy with it.

I have Wuk Lamat fatigue.

>>715539569
As much as I'd love the schadenfreude I'd also like to see her just beheaded on the way back to her home nation instead, she's so shite.

Have you made your predictions for 7.3?

>>715538910 (OP)
she cute

>>715540619
>>99 results
Yeah that's about as many times as we were forced to speak to Wuk Lamat.

What is everyone up to? I'm doing old variants again for stuff I missed the first time around like the cards.
WAR makes it way comfier than the DPS job I used during EW lol.

>>715540738
Why are we carrying a big trophy sized potential doomsday weapon in our back pocket anyway? Or does Y'shtola have it already, I can't quite recall.

>>715540554
They gotta fund that final boss of the new deep dungeon made specifically for raiders somehow I guess. Can't have content raiders don't interact with.

>>715540651
Wuk Lamat has had like 6 lines since July of last year how do you have fatigue of a character like that

>>715540064
Where do you get these from?

>>715540858
>What is everyone up to? I'm doing old variants again for stuff I missed the first time around like the cards.
We all quit and gave in to despair.

>>715540859
>Why are we carrying a big trophy sized potential doomsday weapon in our back pocket anyway?
Perhaps we should throw it into the ravine below Ishgard. Nobody would ever be able to retrieve it from there.

>>715540859
Because the WoL carrying it around is theoratically safer than leaving it in a cupboard somewhere

>>715540858
I quit after OC flopped.

>>715540854
It's been a year it's time to let go

>>715540858
I tried mabinogi for a bit, I might try GW2 next.
Also nearly finished FFT.

>>715540738
We have to hug Wuk Lmao goodbye and tell her "our adventure together was amazing!"

>>715540880
>Wuk Lamat has had like 6 lines since July of last year how do you have fatigue of a character like that
6 lines too many. Should've been 0 since 7.0 ended.

>>715540878
hey, if the regular DD is less ass like EO, I'm fine with it

>>715540738

>>715540859
Because it doesn't work on anybody's command, Alexandria already has Unabomber record levels of failure trying to push dimensions around with it

no one cares
>>>/vg/
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/trash/

>>715541034
Spheen anal.

>>715541001
>It's been a year it's time to let go
Why? She's still around, so I'm going to keep talking about her. You seem really perturbed by people shitting on Wuk Lamat.

>>715540858
Mostly doing expert roulettes daily for tomestone armor and relic weapons

>>715540880
/vol/ posters don't actually play games. you're getting reheated youtube essays.

>>715539569
something like that kind of happened in the past. During one of the SB live letters when they announced a new housing ward yoshi asked the audience what they think it'll be and the audience resoundingly shouted out for ishgard only for yoshi to awkwardly show off that it was kugane. There were still cheers but it was noticably more quiet than the shouting for ishgard

dead game

>>715540903
>Where do you get these from?
I found it from here, but I think there's a subreddit that actually compiles the worst modbeast images/videos, but I forget what it was called.

>>715541165
I mean pre SB fanfests, not live letter, my bad

>>715541147
>you're getting reheated youtube essays.
Oh it's THIS cope again.

>>715538910 (OP)
They were told to be more woke is my guess.

>>715541123
I think Wuk Lamat is the worst written character in the game and has the worst voice actor in the game.
My point is everything you're saying has been obvious since July of last year.

>>715541147
for all the cries of white knight in the last thread, he sure was comfy white knighting for a youtube essayist that spends most of their time seething on XIV subreddits

>>715541137
How many jobs have you geared up?

>>715540458
I don't use Twitter, and I thought it was terrible.

>>715539407
>Good framework, poor execution
This is the truth, but unfortunately execution is everything. With good execution they could have had the entire expansion focus on Tural, had the rite of succession be the focus of level 90-97, had 97-100 be a detour of exploring some proper ancient ruins in Xak Tural, and finished it off with the level 100 dungeon/trial being a celebration for the end of the rite of succession with the WoL and his party being the guests of honor. But even that, if the execution was poor, would be shit.

>>715540961
>>715540962
>>715541065
That's true, though I'm half expecting the game to make WoL look incredibly incompetent by having us lose it despite having it in our possession. But that's nothing new I guess, we let Gulool Ja Ja die just earlier.

>>715541309
>My point is everything you're saying has been obvious since July of last year.
Ok? I'm gonna keep talking about her as long as she keeps being shoved in my face.

based

>>715541458
I lapsed playing for an Elden Ring playthrough but so far I have DRG, GNB and RDM's relics and I've got a couple pieces of Scouting's tomestone set. I probably won't bother with gearing out tanks beyond their relics because I already have a Berserker set from OC.

>>715541504
To be fair, I think it would be bad writing if a supposed genius like Calyx didn't figure out how to take the key away from us-

>>715541504
That's always been the case, though. Like when we let Ilberd do his shit.

Remember when Zepla and all the female WoWfugee streamers tried to make their own all-female Ultimate team?

>>715541532
You keep shoving her into your own face to keep yourself perpetually ragebaited you fucking dweeb

i know nothing about her character so i think she's cute

>>715539407
This. The idea behind it was right, actually interesting, but they completely botched the execution. Like another anon said, Lamat being a curious and strong princess clashes terribly with the fact she doesn't know shit about her own people and never even left the capital. She clearly was Hiroi's favorite OC in the expansion, and so he constantly put her in the spotlight like he did with Zero, another (albeit better) Mary Sue of his.

Her rivalry with Bakool Ja Ja was another good idea, but again, implemented like shit. They could have made Zoraal Ja a GREAT villain, but never gave him time to shine. Koana's story was resolved after one patch and a terribly cringe cutscene. Erenville is flat, boring, and not charismatic enough, even for the fujoshi. Sphene's motives felt utterly nonsensical, because the people she was "keeping alive" weren't even souls, but chatbots who acted like long-dead people. She basically wanted to keep playing house with a bunch of dolls - kind of a weak motive for a villain.

The latest patch was more interesting, thanks to real Sphene and Calyx. Wuk Lamat has been totally pushed away and I seriously doubt she will become a Scion, they know they fucked up big time with her character, but can't and won't admit it for obvious reasons. The new Scion spot will either go to Sphene (if she decides her people can live without a queen) or Erenville.

>>715541705
She is kinda cute.
in jp

>>715541582
I only did my main DPS job and healer so far. Like you, my tank has OC gear.

>>715541705
Just hate her and don't ask questions. If you do this you will have informed and nuanced views.

>>715538910 (OP)
lol

>>715541034
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SPHENE BOORU

>>715539407
What's really ironic is that they actually managed to get across the idea of the WoL being a mentor in the role quests without ruining our own involvement.
They aren't exactly good stories either, but they're at least competent enough to not be aggravating.

>>715538910 (OP)
shes literally female naruto
makes so much more sense when you see it that way
btw its mostly v that is hating, due to a va, see name

>>715539042
Her??

>>715541817

>>715541532
>I'm gonna keep talking about her as long as she keeps being shoved in my face
She has maybe 1 mention in the Mamool Ja questline that's it

>>715541845
no
naruto is cool
naruto starts being hated by everyone
in fact nobody liked him for a while
he put effort into being a good ninja
people that blindly say she's female naruto have never watched or read naruto and just go off from youtube comments, stick to watching zepla lil bro

>>715539970
>Taller than me
Racial aspects
>Even more bigger axe
Rich family and weapon design, explainable as a gift
>Experience in battle with a power similar to our strongest companions
This was the problem. Training would make sense if they said she trained with Zarool Ja, but they shouldn't have given her real battle experience.

>>715541801
my gymbro buddy sounds more like a girl than he does

>>715541925
NOOOOOO THAT'S TOO MUCH NOW I HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT HER

I would breed Wuk Lamat and I am tired of pretending that I wouldn't

>>715541941
>Rich family and weapon design, explainable as a gift
Also it's just a Riversbreath axe, you get one yourself in the very first dungeon if you're lucky
Gulool Ja Ja dual-wields DRK Riversbreath swords and Zoraal Ja uses VPR Riversbreath swords
>Training would make sense if they said she trained with Zarool Ja,
She was trained by Gulool Ja Ja same as Zoraal ja

>>715541881
I hope one day twitter or other social media caption is an instant ban.

>>715539042
She's alright, like I don't think she's cool but she definitely seems overhated

>>715541123
God damn it, Sphene is beautiful

>>715542150
Wuk Lamat is not wife material but she IS friends-with-benefits material (condoms don't exist in Tural) (She will forget to tell you to pull out in the heat of the moment)
>>715542267
10/10

>>715539970
>our strongest companions it's a princess that never left the main city
They even tried to justify that with one of those short stories published on the Lodestone. Apparently she sneaked out of the palace during the hunting festival and almost got eaten, but Zoraal Ja saved her in time. From then on, she was forbidden from leaving the city. But this makes even less sense: why not train her so she can defend herself, then? Or at least teach her what lies beyond the city walls, who the people her father rules over are.

And don't get me started on the bird people forgetting what their own ritual is for, while a scholar who knows every single detail about it lives in their village and watches them die of starvation without intervening. Absolutely baffling. Hiroi is a hack and Kate's localization makes his writing feel even worse.

>>715541925
>She has maybe 1 mention in the Mamool Ja questline that's it
And the Juenoi raid

And the Pelu Pelu Tribe

And Occult Crescent.

And of course the entire post-MSQ features her

>>715542065
You seem REALLY bothered by people shitting on Wuk Lamat and are very non-subtly attempting to draw attention away from shitting on her. Sorry, but we're going to keep shitting on her, little bro. Every single day until she's gone for good.

>>715540328
>let's take lyse, who we canned because she was unpopular
Lyse left scions at end of base MSQ. It was planned and not like a reception like Wuk had.
And even then, Lyse didn’t hog up the entire time. You know this.

>>715542150
If she keeps her mouth shut, sure.

sex makes babies??

>>715542150
Which one would you rather fuck?
Japanese Wuk Lamat or German Wuk Lamat?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCWF8MYARkM

>>715538910 (OP)
Whatever their diversity consultants told them to think.

i still can't believe my journey with this game is over
i preordered DT and bought a six month sub because I figured they couldn't fuck it up. Oh how fucking wrong I was.

>>715541817
what really surprises me is that kate can write some decent songs. according to credits, the lyrics for flow are her doing. it genuinely is a great song about a mother/goddess welcoming her child after death, it still makes people cry to this day. but she really can't localize for shit.

>>715538910 (OP)
They were thinking everyone would love Wuk, but that requires character development and doing literally anything cool or interesting.
Hiro can't write and Kate couldn't fix the script.

>>715542420
Getting a named mention in places where she is theoretically pertinent, like where the Landsguard is involved or where she was present in the past and ties into existing Dawnservant business, is not worth entire threads of ragebait

I don't understand why they gave this character this much dialogue or what the intention was

>>715542267
Yeah we're gonna keep shitting on Kate too because she's the lead localzier and lore person right now, and is even involved in the casting decisions. According to Koana's VA, she's responsible for "80% of Dawntrail" and is it's "Beating heart" >>715540208

So she's the #1 person responsible for the mess that was this expansion (storywise).

And we're gonna keep shitting on her until she resigns or is fired.

>>715542660
I don't think there's a "we" here little buddy

>>715542559
I accidentally let my 6-month charge again when I was debating whether I want to keep going.
I stayed subbed for 6 more months while barely playing the game. It just ended yesterday.
5700 hours on record. But they decided to fuck up Black Mage, the only class I could say was more than just average.

>>715542267
KEEEEK

>>715542602
>Getting a named mention in places where she is theoretically pertinent, like where the Landsguard is involved or where she was present in the past and ties into existing Dawnservant business, is not worth entire threads of ragebait
You left out the part where I mentioned she's still heavily involved in the MSQ, in order to downplay my criticisms like the disingenous weasel you are. It wouldn't be so bad, if all Wuk had been reduced to post-7.0 is mere offhand mentions in side content. That's not the case, though, and you know that.

Will he ever pay for this crimes?

>>715541725
>Sphene's motives felt utterly nonsensical, because the people she was "keeping alive" weren't even souls, but chatbots who acted like long-dead people.
I didn't actually mind this one that much. Especially considering that Sphene herself was essentially the same thing, I think its only natural that she consider them still alive.

>>715542420
>You seem REALLY bothered by people
>>715541123
>You seem really perturbed by people shitting on Wuk Lamat
You seem REALLY obsessed with this character

>>715542749
>I don't think there's a "we" here little buddy
We're gonna keep shititng on Kate every day and there's nothing you can do about it. And I'm not your buddy, guy.

>>715542660
>And we're gonna keep shitting on her until she resigns or is fired.
On... /v/? But that's stupid, you've announced a plan to stay enraged at all times until an employee is fired. So the problem's you, not the employee. You're already cycling through all the same stuff you've posted last thread. Your plan really is to just keep incensing yourself forever.

You're Lee in spirit. Are you gonna grow a shitty moustache?

>Guys, it's been 1 year since your favorite game was raped mercilessly? Can you move on please?
No, the game is still raped. The criticism will continue until Yoshi unrapes it.

>>715542660
So many American VAs are truly insufferable. Especially with social media nowadays.
Though there are exceptions and those that know how to be professional and not get ragebaited. But seeing these kinds of posts just burns at the goodwill English built up for so long.

>>715542531
>That feral scream at the start
God damn

>>715542759
Mine ran out in January. Legacy account and everything. now its just dead to me

>>715542880
Are you done crying?

>>715542836
He either got fired or demoted to side quest jail again

>>715538910 (OP)
Dawntrail is a literal humiliation ritual for the player.

>>715542634
They wanted to cash in on the DEI craze that broke loose after the George Floyd incident, and Wuk was their flagship character for that.
Too bad that they realized too late that people are already sick and tired of it.

>>715542920
Yes, Homestuc, that's exactly what we're gonna do. Keep crying. The shitting on of Kate will continue until morale improves.

>>715542934
>>Guys, it's been 1 year since your favorite game was raped mercilessly? Can you move on please?
>No, the game is still raped. The criticism will continue until Yoshi unrapes it.
He REALLY thinks he can singlehandedly control what we talk about. Why does he think any of us are beholden to his whims?

>>715543119
If you do an emote while autorunning it skips the animation. And you can disable the log prompt too (add motion to the / command).
So I type it up, target, autorun and hit enter twice and skip the emote.
Only times it doesn’t work is an emote over a glowing white ball location, and maybe 1 Stormblood quest.

How long until he sages or nukes the thread now that he got utterly BTFO'd?

>>715543119
>Dawntrail is a literal humiliation ritual for the player.
And they're not even subtle about it

>>715543509
It's really comical how many "cool" scenes she gets, they really thought they had the next big thing on their hands.

>>715542749
Yeah, I'm starting to doubt it as well.

Remember the quest lines where you tried to help Taru become an Arcanist but she completely failed at it and it was endearing? Wuk might have been an acceptable "protégé" character if she had acted like that instead of becoming a combat god after one (1) failure.

>>715542660
>I'll be really fucking annoying to everyone on /v/ who could possibly agree with me until a localizer (who doesn't read these threads) is fired by her Japanese boss (who can't read these threads)
Bold strategy, have you had much success so far?

>>715543882
>Bold strategy, have you had much success so far?
It's just him in these threads having a permanent meltdown, so I'd wager to guess that's a no.

>>715543652
She does get plenty of scenes where she's really pathetic,
>crying because of motion sickness
>getting abducted by literal peasants
but it does make her "cool" scenes feel even more out of place

>>715543781
Not to mention that she gets there without any input or help from us.
We didn't even get a scene where she tries to do something on her own, but then we have to step in to save her.
I thought that's what the Bakool JaJa fight was going to be, but then she just sends him home crying instead.

It's really funny when he acts like internet culture isn't downstream from 4chan and then also spends an entire year straight defending Dawntrail and Wuk Lamat to try and change everyone's opinions on it.

>>715538910 (OP)
Dawntrail more than ever before is the evidence needed to show this game needs a horizontal expansion. We do not need another 10 levels to level our present jobs, we do not need more jobs that do the same thing, we do not need more lengthy MSQ, and we certainly do not need more arbitrary excuses to save the world again. Call the next expansion Battle Theater, and focus 100% on breadth of combat options, give every job 2 subjobs they can spec into, make field exploration and content far more robust, make BLU and BSM both real jobs that can fit into the fold, bring Feast back, make items actually have use in combat beyond just being "Pot on Burst Window" and "Food before duty". Just do everything you can to make it so the actual gameplay part of this game is paramount again and accept that the story can use a break. I'd be satisfied with the entire MSQ for an expansion literally just being a tour around the world and having fun with all of your friends you've made along the way and some big badass monsters or warriors showing up to cause trouble that you get to suppress from each expansion, and that's it.

>>715544063
>everyone is one person

>>715544134
>>715543937

>>715543882
Naw he's on year 4 of completely failing to astroturf the threads into Dawntrail Hate General /dhg/

>>715544092
I think 8.0 is the best time to do that since lv.100 was already such a milestone, going from 100 to 110 won't be interesting.

>>715544063
Internet culture has been downstream from Twitter for roughly a decade. As evidenced by the amount of twitter screencaps you post on /v/.

I would fuck up every ERPing tranny ITT

>>715542660
>that face

>Criticize Kate
>Suddenly massive group of Kate defenders come out nowhere
I'm noooticing.......

>>715544246
Yoshida does agree, he mentioned they don't want to go past level 100. Would finally solve the level-climb aspect of expansions and the low level experience being awful if they actually had a static level range to design around for the future

>>715539569
it's funny that you can only win in your imagination

>>715538910 (OP)
I heard they quietly removed this scene last patch.

>>715543882
I mean he's made sure no XIV thread goes un-shitposted.

>>715544309
No, this is cope. Proof? The term 'goyslop' entering the normalfag lexicon. Everything still comes from here.
>As evidenced by the amount of twitter screencaps you post on /v/.
I don't post any because I don't use twitter and if I had my way any twitter screencap would result in a permanent ban.

>>715544246
We should have stopped at 99 in DT, it would have been such an easy and soulful thing to do. I was disappointed when they revealed it would just be lv100, same old formula.

>>715544382
posting her face and announcing you're going to die angry about her isn't criticizing her bwo *headpats u*

>>715544063
>It's really funny when he acts like internet culture isn't downstream from 4chan and then also spends an entire year straight defending Dawntrail and Wuk Lamat to try and change everyone's opinions on it.
It's genuinely bizarre how he comes to 4chan to defend wokeshit so hard. Where does he think he is? Reddit? Guy thinks he can singlehandedly change 4chan's entire culture.

>>715544462
>posting her face and announcing you're going to die angry about her isn't criticizing her bwo *headpats u*
Nobody said this, just that criticism of Kate will continue until she's no longer working on the game and being a cancer to it. Seems very reasonable.

>>715544452
What's so special about 99?

>>715544452
Yeah. I figured there would still be the equivelent of lv 100, but I was at least hoping for a star or something to signify the end of leveling.

>>715544651
That's the level cap in every FF except for 8 and 16.

I wonder if Kate herself is behind this whiteknighting. Also I notice that, while these same faggots get really defensive over Dawntrail or anything related to it like Wuk Lamat, they REALLY get activated when you shit on Kate in any way. It's very NOOTICEable.

>>715544451
>The term 'goyslop' entering the normalfag lexicon.
It didn't, "slop" did. Similar story to "cope, seethe, dilate" entering lexicon as "cope, seethe, mald" or peepee poopoo Wojaks and Pepes becoming widely adopted, the unsavory or unfunny elements are stripped out because the underlying joke has some game. Which is also part of it, actually, the joke itself is wrapped in a layer of edge because 4chan doesn't really know how to make a joke anymore without yelling an expletive or seething about transsexuals, the joke isn't the edgy material itself as it tended to be in the old /b/tard days. Hell, the copy-paste nature of the joke is part of why Wojaks ended up in use across Twitter, Tumblr, Facebook and some very very brief corporate adoptions.

>>715544651
fucking tourist
>>715544452
99 and horizontal equipment progression would have been the play

>>715544246
Well, it's what YoshiP said they might do, but of course he didn't divulge that he knew that for sure.

>>715540458
Nah. Its boring. I started cutscene skipping because I have no interest in the plot. Papa peace tacos have no stake when you kill 2 god like entities and then the only big bad for dawntrail is a Aztec winged snake frozen in ice.

>>715544736
More likely to be marketing agencies. They're hired by multiple companies at once, thats why it always seems like every bad decision by every company has a defense force that just POPS IN when the criticism gets the worst.

I forgot their name but there used to be a list of companies like capcom, bethesda, ubisoft that were all subscribed to this one marketing firm and /v/ was able to confirm they come here via marketing scripts exposing themselves.

>>715544242
All he's managed to do is add a circus act to the threads that people can turn to when they're bored.

I really don't understand this infighting. We all want the game to be better. Do you genuinely think the game is in a better state now than it was 4 years ago? Complaining is good. It doesn't matter if it's repetitive. What does defending Square or Kate do for you?

>>715539407
You need to have really good character writing to make something like that work.
Unfortunately Hiroi has the literary skills of an autistic toddler.

>>715545125
>Do you genuinely think the game is in a better state now than it was 4 years ago?
Yes. By far, actually.

I want to sire countless offspring with Y'shtola. Insanely talented sorceress and warrior of light would make for insanely good children.

>>715544994
>Stormblood: Red Mage is the most braindead caster in the game
>Dawntrail: Red Mage is the most complex caster in the game
How did that happen?

>>715543781
>Take Lamatyi's involvement in all arcs other than the Pelupelu secondary to the other candidates, who have more prominent showings in each one (her learning the value of simple trade was honestly really cute and was excellent for showing her integration into the culture) and instead have the other candidates actively in the foreground
>Have her initially fail each task but later succeed with the help of each of the tribes she needed to culturally understand, showing that she's not only always in need of their help, but is also actively learning their world manually rather than passively
>Get rid of the inane Solo Duty, nobody cares that she can fight Bakool Ja Ja and other than him running away sad, it didn't add anything to the story
>Have her stay planted in Tuliyollal during everything from Shaaloani onwards. At most, just show random shots of her defending the capital (maybe even a "cool" shot of her standing alone in front of the gates with her arms crossed) as both a symbolic measure that she's going to protect everybody and a literal measure to tell the WoL about the current state of the Vanguard threat
>Krile and Erenville Focus in Heritage Found can be entirely with those two, as the area is entirely for them, and the involvement of Sphene is more something related to the WoL, who has now gone from being a savior of their world to the destroyer of another, leaning into the end of Dawntrail being a sombre and dour note suggesting that their incompatible society would only lead to the destruction of one or both of their worlds
>Wuk Lamat, having now spent the entire arc just learning about cultures and defending her own, stumbles in after you've defeated Sphene and confirms that the Vanguard are all inactive, and sees the dead ruins of a long-gone civilization, promising to learn about them and hopefully one day give them new life/light/whatever
There, I'll take my check now Yoshi-P

>>715545125
When I complain I just get called a Kate Defender anyway. I'm already unsubbed which is the only thing you can actually do to effect the game's quality.

>>715545125
4 years ago would've been 5.55 so yeah the game is definitely better now than back then

>>715544715
>the bottom 3 worst FFs cap at 100
Kino in its own way

>>715540470
>Most default chink gacha UI imaginable
>SOULFUL
kys

>>715545283
This lmao.

>>715544715
>>715544756
It's just a dumb number, cmon now

>>715545206
the meme explains it pretty clearly.
everything else got dumbed down to hell.
Even Picto wasn't safe. Apparently, the hammer motif is a damage loss now, so it's pretty much just a movement tool.
I thought Picto was fun enough when I played it last, but that just sounds like a stupid idea.

>>715545361
To me it signifies that they actually aren't going to stop adding levels. 99 as a cap doesn't lend itself to another 10 levels every expansion. Meanwhile 16 stopped at 100 initially, then capped out at 110 in the DLC.

Dawntrail is my favourite expansion because it made my friend start playing and I got to relive the good expansion vicariously

>>715545125
>Do you genuinely think the game is in a better state now than it was 4 years ago?
Yes
>Complaining is good.
Also yes. Voice your complaints, make them heard, make them clear. However I also reject the notion that inane shitflinging and complaining about things that have little to nothing to do with the game will better it in any way. Focus on things that matter.

>>715545052
current tact: "disagreeing with me means you're a hired marketer"

>>715545308
Yeah, gachagolems really are something special.

>>715545361

>>715545413
Hammer is still a gain in burst and if you have downtime to prep it for free like you usually have in ultimates. There's some more complexity to it, but it does feel like shit to just sit overcapped on my hammer most of the time.

>>715538910 (OP)
They were marketing to the majority of the player-base but they historically HATE looking in the mirror.

People would be a lot friendlier towards DT if they made a FT normal mode. Catering to savage faggots does not work.

What kind of fat cuck wastes his whole life grinding every job in a dead nip mmo? Maining bitch healer, no less. K E K

>>715542559
>>715542759
>>715543021
>dawntrail comes around
>zzz drops around the same time
>decide to play zzz because DT looked meh
>mfw i look back at all the nuclear fallout of DT
thank FUCK I dipped out of the game after 6.0. I get more fun out of consuming ff14 doomposting than actually playing ff14

>>715545625
>what kind of person would play a game they paid for
gee i wonder

>>715545610
FT is not savage

>>715540738
Are you telling me the 7.x updates just went back to jerking Azem and the Ascians again?

whoops! nobody paying attention to his kate rants. time to seethe about lalafells and do the stumpy rumpy folder dumpy

>>715539304
Tranny VA had nothing to do with Wuk being a shitty character.

>>715545747
I might as well be with that clear rate!

>>715545206
even more ironic considering the low damage was always justified by saying
>low complexity
>rez tax
but in the end, it's the most difficult caster, especially against bosses when you can't do your melee combo as you please. No melee combo, no damage, thanks square enix

>>715545610
People shit on easy Alliance raids all the time why would adding an easy alliance raid to OC suddenly make the easy alliance raid good

>>715544092
All of those things, would be great, anon. I just don't think that SE is even capable of thinking in this way. We'll get 110, we'll get 2 jobs and 6 zones, we'll get 3 trials and 6-pull 3-boss dungeons on the usual levels. We'll get all of the stuff that we've had 5 times already. Of that I am 100% certain.

>>715545768
Not one person by the way.

>>715545825
>People shit on easy Alliance raids all the time
Savage raider and faggots like Xeno do. Most people just play the damn thing and are happy with the fights.

>>715545742
resub or he'll sue and copyright strike you, bigot

>>715545125
In some aspects, yes. In others, no. I think the main thing is that there's a difference between complaints and criticism. Making complaints here is worthless because no dev is going to see this thread. Sharing criticism is useful here because you can see said criticism, discuss it, come up with suggestions on how to improve, and then bring that to a place where developers may actually see it.

>>715545539
It's quite desperate, really.

we know it's you lil bro, keep it hidden
i play the game daily unlike you

>>715545625
cuckoli is a known /xivg/ lolcow and diaperfag

>>715545825
Adrammalech in CLL curbstomped the average shitter but it was still easily clearable with a group of randoms, as long as you had a handful of competent people to carry everyone through it was fine.

>>715545763
The only thing confirmed is:
- we have an artifact that supposedly belonged to Azem at some point
- the new villains probably knows something about the Ascians

>>715545825
Because they were good in bozja

>>715542660
Didn't she do the Bee song? I heard she sang it, she did well if she did that.

>>715542559
lmao i still remember the thousands of posts during 5.5 saying that DT couldnt miss
>dude its a summer vacation
>its a fresh start!
>we need some slower pacing
>zero arc was supposed to be bad filler
>clearly a wow falsefag if you think it could be worse than SB
>i cant wait for a femroh MSQ character!

Wuk is shit, but still better written than the entire mess that was Endwalker with dynamis and the jai- I mean emo bird.

>>715538910 (OP)
"the catrix"

>>715545610
Doubt it. People shitting their pants about FT now were simply looking for reasons to be displeased with OC. If it weren't that, it'd be something else.
Nobody hails Bozja or Eureka for having Alliance Raids (even though they're a nice bonus).

>>715545125
>I really don't understand this infighting. We all want the game to be better. Do you genuinely think the game is in a better state now than it was 4 years ago? Complaining is good. It doesn't matter if it's repetitive. What does defending Square or Kate do for you?
If these players were around during 1.0 we would've NEVER gotten 2.0 because they'd just be defending every bad decision that would lead to the game's permanent death.

>>715546074
No, a member of the localization team sang it, but it wasn't her.

>>715545813
>mfw M7S as Red Mage

>>715545825
none of the CLL, DR or Dalriada fights are less difficult than the nier raids. Hamon was pretty rough in its chaos during Lyon phase but nothing you couldn't limp through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNSo81eRxNc

>find some dogshit turd abridged series
>better experience than Dawntrail

Is that it, only a dozen images? What happened to the 200 post folder dumps? Where's your energy?

>>715541817
>niggers ITT are still paying a sub for kate's game
>in the year of our lord 2014+11

>>715538910 (OP)
they were thinking
>It's been 10 years can FF17 be another MMO

>>715539569
They fired Wuk's english VA so I don't anticipate she'd ever be brought back outside of the non-speaking roles we've seen with Lyse, who has had a sum total of three minutes of MSQ presence since SB

>>715538910 (OP)
Trans rep

>>715545625
How did the healer strike ended? Did they just quietly went back to being obedient healsluts or are they still grandstanding in the forums?

>>715546306
>They fired Wuk's english VA
source?

>>715546097
>the jai-
?

>>715544736
Maybe that's why she gets so mad at accusations of devs not doing anything.

>>715538910 (OP)
Never gonna play that slop but I'd eat woke lamat ass

>>715546220
I can't believe you dug out this old turd just for us, anon

Ah, there he is

>wordlessly doomping

you lost.

>>715546338
crazy how folder dumper bought the expansion 3,000 times just to leave negative reviews

>>715545148
>Yes. By far, actually.

Hmm

>Jobs dumbed down and homogenized, stripped of all identity, skill expression and most importantly FUN
>Every raid is now rote memorization of DDR simon says mechancis and bodychecks to serve as artificial difficulty
>Content cycles stretched out even further with even less content, what content we do get is the same as before but worse
>Nearly all content exclusively caters to raid trannies now, even the raid at the end of the new Foray zone is designed for hardcore raid trannies and is now gatekept by Discord cliques who you have to prosrate yourself to for a CHANCE to get in
>Story is the worst it's ever been


Yeah.....so much better sister.

>>715546324
always seemed like just seething on the forum to me

>>715546459
the buzziest buzzwords that ever buzzed

>>715546412
>pic related
>how to fix Wuk Lamat Step 1

I wish there was any challenging combat content in the game that didn't require me to study beforehand.

>>715546170
how bad is it actually? I skipped savage this patch, I just quickly skimmed once for curiosity, and I just saw two people overcapping b&w mana for minutes while they handled their tethers
desu playing rdm is just wanting people to hate you, they don't notice at all when you save the party (but they notice the low damage you do), and when you don't play it anymore, they're just crying that there is no more rez...

I'd rather have no more rez on this job. It doesn't even matter most of the time because people can't recover.

>>715546459
but m-muh chaotic. muh content. didn’t you like chaotic?

>this is the woman who saved the Final Fantasy 14!
She's so beautiful and she's so fuckable!

>>715546374
his ass, VA is a gig worker and there are long lapses between FFXIV recording sessions, especially if you only do one or two characters

it's an endless moebius strip of repeating the same retarded news and talking points from six months or more ago

>folder queued up
>captchas solved
>zodiark theme playing on youtube
It's dumping time!

>>715546374
The didn't.

>>715546459
yeah i have no idea how people in this thread defend the state of combat content in DT unless they are hardcore raider

>>715546513
step 2:
(I'll get banned so enjoy)

>>715540064
Stop posting this shit you fucking freak, I only ever see this shit because (you) perverts keep posting it like it’s some kind of gotcha when you have to actively ask for people codes, install mare, and put the code in.

>>715546459
>Jobs dumbed down
Shadowbringers
>Every raid is now rote memorization of DDR simon says mechancis and bodychecks to serve as artificial difficulty
Longer than Shadowbringers
>Content cycles stretched out even further
Tell us about 5.2 to 5.3
>with even less content
Where deep dungeon in ShB? Where foray in EW? Where criterion in ShB? Where chaotic in EW? Why did it take until 5.35 to get Bozja? Where second ultimate in ShB?
>Nearly all content exclusively caters to raid trannies now
Unlike...?
>Story is the worst it's ever been
Wow, you got one. Good job.

Conclusion: LARPiest LARP that has ever LARPed. Sasuga Emetavatarnig.

>>715546563

>>715546306
>They fired Wuk's english VA so I don't anticipate she'd ever be brought back outside of the non-speaking roles we've seen with Lyse, who has had a sum total of three minutes of MSQ presence since SB
No they didn't, she was even seen recently hanging out with the cast and crew of the game at Anime Expo. This wouldn't be happening if he was fired, nobody hangs around with their former teammates (who still work at said company) after they got fired. It'd be weird.

>>715546415
what can I say, I'm a simple turd farmer taking his daily loads to market

>>715546508
I can now spot foldy dumpy, if by nothing else, the uses of Job Homogenization and DDR Raids.

>>715546651
banana tits would be better

>>715546563

>>715546673
Compate ShB AST with DT AST.

>>715546527
You pretty much get fucked in the ass by tether duty, you can't do your melee combo because you will die. You need to stay in your corner like a cuck and some of these happen in 2 minute bursts too.

>>715546606
EX1 was great, Arcadion is good, the rest is shit, jobs are atrocious. Dungeons bosses have been a bit better I guess but I only do those once each.
CAR could have been great if the whole fight was as easy as phase 1 but they just can't help but add the bodychecks.

>>715546687
i don't think thats folder-kun, thats emet-kun. he's an avatar user that takes shitposty stances in order to get the other avatarfags attention

>>715546624
>time constraint
>4.5 months patch cycle because of covid, even though covid has been over for 5 years now
this is the most infuriating thing, and the one people don't mention as much as "msq sucks"
longer patches for (imo) less content, for 1.5 expansions

>>715546459
>Jobs dumbed down and homogenized, stripped of all identity, skill expression and most importantly FUN
True Stormblood really fucked up the jobs with the role actions
>Content cycles stretched out even further with even less content, what content we do get is the same as before but worse
14 players continue to worship crunch culture
>Nearly all content exclusively caters to raid trannies now, even the raid at the end of the new Foray zone is designed for hardcore raid trannies and is now gatekept by Discord cliques who you have to prosrate yourself to for a CHANCE to get in
Yeah Baldesion Arsenal sure does suck
>Story is the worst it's ever been
Yeah Lyse is the worst

>>715546527
during p3 you're disengaged from the boss for like a whole minute
it sucks and there's a lot of movement too
they definitely didn't test the fight with rdm

>>715546687
hey
pssst

>>715546508
>the buzziest buzzwords that ever buzzed
No argument detected in your post, NEXT

>>715546687
>Everyone who complains about Job homogenization and DDR raids is one person
You are an unserious person.

>>715546780
How dare he. Using ES for his dirty work.

>>715539569
Japanese people dont boo

>>715546805
oh shit i'm nooticing

>>715540738
>speen is a shard of azem
That makes zero sense
>we lose the azem crystal
That’s a in game mechanic now so it can’t be gone for long and who the fuck is strong enough to take it from us? And same with the azem cum goblet who is strong enough to take it from us?

>>715546572
Yoshida confirmed that 7.2 wasn't even in development until after 7.0 launched because they wanted to wait and see what the player reaction was and which direction to go in for the remainder of the story. And yet Sena hasn't worked in over a year. Meaning they didn't bring him back in to record for the patches and are probably just using extra unused lines from the 7.0 development for Wuk right now.

>>715546459
>Jobs dumbed down
true
>Every raid is now rote memorization
false, always has been
>Content cycles stretched out even further with even less content
true
>Nearly all content exclusively caters to raid trannies now
false
>Story is the worst it's ever been
true

forgot the most important thing
>community hit critical mass of modtrannies

>>715546767
>EX1 was great
Funnily enough that is the one Ozma singled out as being fairly poor since it was too easy. Alls those body checks and that riddle shit is all on him.

>>715546721
>cries about job homogenization
>defends shb, the expansion that unequivocally started it
>the expansion with the longest wait time between two patches
>the expansion with 0 deep dungeons
>the expansion that rehashed dead heavensward content
kekaroo skibidipoo

>>715546805
Hey I remember this guy.

>>715546687
Job homogenisation is one of the most popular and most important complaints about the game. It's a far bigger deal than localisers and tranny VAs that the dumper is obsessed with.

Unironically RDM should not be considered a caster and fill that slot in a party. They should only ever replace a melee slot. Our Viper went RDM for prog and swapped back to Viper after we were clear ready and it was nice.

>>715546808
define homogenization. explain why its bad
define DDR raids. explain why they are bad

>>715546780
Everyone is one person around here buddy boy.

>>715546928
how does any of that excuse DT being even worse in that regard? Yeah ShB already went hard on the DDR shit, but DT goes even harder.

>>715539407
She’s ugly
that doesn’t help

>>715546752
I'm pretty sure for 8.0, they will do
>Melee 123 on 1 button
>Range 123 on 1 button
>Use CDs to make enable range buttons for 1 combo (you choose which to use)
only solution to "fix" rdm (even though it completely ruins the concept of melee mage)
who would ever take a rdm with such shitty damage, especially to replace anything else?
>Can't replace melees (even 1n since damage is so bad) or physical range
>2nd worst caster

>>715545625
It's always the lalaniggers

>>715545763
Calyx knows about the Source and its reflections (he even knows Alexandria was on the Ninth), meaning he's either an Ascian or met one. The chalice/interdimensional key you find in Dawntrail resonates with Azem's crystal and Azem's symbol appear on it, meaning it's probably another of Azem's creations, maybe the solution to the Final Days they were looking for when they refused to join both Venat and the Convocation's plans. These are the only interesting lore points this expansion has given us so far.

>>715546931
You might remember him as basedthundergod, answersisters, haindariel sunseeker, vosslerdalmasc, and probably 5000 other aliases since he's a sassy pozzed homosexual who changes his identity every time he's recognized (which is a lot)

>>715546324
there was a shortage of healers at the start of the first raid tier. but there's always a shortage of healers so nothing changed

>>715546673
>Shadowbringers
Yes the job homogenization began in Shadowbringers and the devs have only doubled down since then. Your point?

>Longer than Shadowbringers
I don't know what your point is here either. It was nowhere near as bad as it is now back in Shadowbringers, it was Endwalker that REALLY began the DDRfest we have now.


>Tell us about 5.2 to 5.3
"BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS PREVIOUS EXPANSION"
We're not talking about older expansions being shit, we're talking about THIS current expansion being shit. Is your entire argument just you deflecting to older expansions being shit too as an excuse for Dawntrail also being shit?

My point is patch cycles have only been increasing on average. We now go 4.5 months between patches and they don't have covid as an excuse like they did back in ShB.

>Unlike...?
Unlike what? There is no unlike, are you attempting another comparison here? Unlike Shb? THey didn't cater this hard to hardcore raidtroons back then, you'd know that if you actually played, mr Shill.

>Wow, you got one. Good job.
Glad you consneeded on something, at least.


>Conclusion: LARPiest LARP that has ever LARPed. Sasuga Emetavatarnig.
Conclusion: you got your asshole raped by the truth and you have no argument so you must seethe. Your concession has been accepted.

>>715546170
>>715546752
>The job that has to deal with the problems of being melee range is not in fact a melee but a caster who moonlights as a melee
>Which still gets fucked in the ass potency wise because muh rez tax
They really should buff RDM, you're already losing so much DPS if people are dropping like flies enough for you to have to spam Verraise.

>>715542228
If we had any decent mods they would give people who post random twitter screenshots, post stream numbers, and post softcore porn threads 30 days bans if not permanent bans depending on how bad the post was

>>715547000
>define homogenization. explain why its bad
>define DDR raids. explain why they are bad
You don't actually play the game so you wouldn't understand even if I told you. But you have been told 1000x before, nobody needs to keep repeating themselves, you love checking the archoooves so much why don't you check the archooves on the countless times we've had this exact same discussion and you'll find your answer.

>>715546070
the MSQ is entirely ass

>>715546805
Why are you posting your twitter account here? Advertising is against the rules.

>>715547000
>wasted trips
faggot

>>715547394
How exactly is work on FFXVI going to help with work on FFXIV?

>>715546563

>>715546687
>i can spot folder dumpy through possibly THE single most common complaint in the game's community

Homestuck-janny lost the argument against us doomchads so badly that he's switched to folder dumping now as a last resort to derail the thread.

>>715547287
NTA, but
>We're not talking about older expansions being shit, we're talking about THIS current expansion being shit
They're literally talking about the game in its current state compared to how it was in a previous expansion anon.

>>715547287
>Yes the job homogenization began in Shadowbringers
So stop sucking it off. DT is indeed better than 5.55.
>I don't know what your point is here either. It was nowhere near as bad as it is now back in Shadowbringers, it was Endwalker that REALLY began the DDRfest we have now.
No it isn't, and you can't even define it.
>"BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS PREVIOUS EXPANSION"
Try to keep track of the conversation or you're disqualified, you shit-covered homunculus.
>THey didn't cater this hard to hardcore raidtroons back then,
Lol, lmao even.
>Glad you consneeded on something, at least.
Yeah the only one with some remote merit. Even a stopped clock, and all that.
>Your concession has been accepted.
Oh, you mad. You seething. Fuming. Boiling.
I'm gonna keep prolapsing that LARPer ass of yours.

>>715546902
>That makes zero sense
It could make sense, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen, so it's just a predicition
>That’s a in game mechanic now so it can’t be gone for long and who the fuck is strong enough to take it from us?
The writers have to come up with a way to challenge the WoL somehow, or else nothing exciting would ever happen

>Dumps on FFXIV's corpse
Only trannies still play this pile of shit.

This thread got me to check out the forums to see what the discourse is.
Can someone call this person a faggot for me? I can't talk on the forums without an account, and I don't think he knows that.

>>715547339
I love rdm but it truly is the cuck job of 14. How many fights I've saved by rezzing people dozens of time
>0 comm
you know yoship hates us because everything breaks the melee combo, even though we still do 0 damage

>>715547616
>They're literally talking about the game in its current state compared to how it was in a previous expansion anon.
Yes and we've established that it's objectively worse now in every regard. Try to keep up!

>>715547727
>29 people agree with him
Kek. Based.

>>715547287
>>715547645
tranny fight!

>>715547651
Thing is the wol is just fucking around unless a shard ending threat shows up. No one is strong enough to hurt us

10-yen Yoshida status?

>>715547287
>"BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS PREVIOUS EXPANSION"
>>715545148
Retard.

>enter a ffxiv thread
>it's still about some schizo on twitter
isn't this what /vg/ is for?

Your response, GCBTW?

>>715547846
fake crying again onstage once the cancer wins

>>715547698
>aaaaaaagh the rainbow triggers me so much i get so upset aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
snowflake

Man, FFXIV critics can't hold an argument to save their lives. No wonder most people ignore them like they're buzzing gnats.

>>715547846
Maybe after this folder dump he'll finally fire Kate.

>>715547843
Zenos almost killed us in a 1v1 fight, and even he can't destroy worlds on his own

>>715547874
I still don't understand the point this screenshot is trying to make.
The full line Lucy is saying is that Twitter over the past few months has become the Wuk Lamat defense squad.
She doesn't say anything else about Wuk Lamat in the video. It's all about the actual gameplay, and the community.

>>715547429
>invited to explain his point
>gets aggressive and refuses to explain

bad faith

DT is in an excellent state. Player numbers are stable and high, there are no QA issues, the only thing they can put out are reaction based fights... truly, we never ate this well!

>>715547935
Shitpostxiv is SEETHING about him

https://old.reddit.com/r/ShitpostXIV/comments/1m0dage/factoryfarmed_content/

>>715547935
Having a right laugh at the fact that "le game stagnant it does the same over and over again they are lazy and also trannies" tards are rallying behind a tranny with a fake voice reusing the same low-effort thumbnails with the same regurgitated nonsense for several vids straight.
You can't make that shit up.

ffxiv is overhated because it was overhyped for so long, at its core it’s truly not much better or worse than the likes of tor or eso or gw2 but ff just has a more diehard cult fanbase who will buy anything with the ff name on it
that being said forcing myself through the entire msq preceding shb launch in under a week was easily the worst experience ive ever had playing any video game ever
the game has legendarily awful pacing

>>715548000
This only after he ate mom and even then we fucked him up

>>715547980
the tiny buzzing gnat is square enix

>>715547935
where is that epstein venue

>>715547731
If they're going to keep it in the shitter they could at least put some effort into pretending like it has the White part of Red Mage beyond Verraise. Magick Barrier feels so lame to use and that's literally all RDM gets for unique support, unless you count Vercure which sucks and also things are really going tits up if you're using Vercure. Please give me more support options if you won't give me more DPS. I don't see why they're so deathly afraid of giving a given DPS class more than 1 mit/utility besides role.

>>715548130
He used mom's energy to fly to the end of the universe though

>>715547429
Nah, come on. Explain it.
What makes, say, the Arcadion fights DDR slop whereas Eden fights are not.

>>715547935
What the fuck?

>>715548087
Checked the thread and it looks like they're mostly making fun of him

feels like pure shit, just want her back

>>715548087
those thumbnails look familiar

emetkun, are you that youtuber?

Just another day of schizos posting the same screenshots, letting this game live in their heads

>>715538910 (OP)
Wuk's extreme shiitiness is a byproduct of the rest of the msq being written like dogshit.
Shounen MC princess could have been tolerable if the rest of the writing wasn't
"Diversity and peace are nice our race has 1 personality trait"

>>715547935
>FFXIV Milking Cow Mod

HUH?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWRj_9xmndM

>>715548148
Well, you would know since you are one sole folderdumper who literally hasn't accomplished anything. :^)

>>715548278
Turns out stories written by people who exclusively read BL are better than stories written by people who exclusively read shonen...

>>715548278
>Approved everything in 6.x and 7.0
Fuck off

>>715548351
>BL

who's your oshi

>>715546002
Here's his xitter

>>715547000
Not that anon but an anon deeply interested in game design.

Job Homogenization is a gameplay design decision to create rounded toolkits for every job so that they are all near equally performative in every situation. There are three major areas of homogenization: the most often seen in making every class relatively equal in Single Target/AoE dps so that there is little needed difference in group composition. Secondly, normalizing buffs and debuffs: because of the multiplicative nature of these status effects, encounters would either have to be designed with or without those buffs in mind, leading to either trivialized content or it being impossible to complete without them. Designers will get around this by lowering the impact of buffs and debuffs to marginal percentage differences so that they are no longer necessary outside of, again, progression raids. Thirdly is mechanic homogenization, which is the optimal routine for a player to do the most damage. In FFXIV, most dps has been pushed into two playstyles: build charges to do a big attack or build charges to be super powered for a little bit. Monk, BLM, Picto, RDM, Sam, are all big attack jobs while every other DPS has some "build up to super power mode" phase. This is different to something like Monk needing to maintain greased lightning charges to maximize dps, it makes every class feel the same because their goals and behaviors are the same.

We could go even further in things like mitigating classes weaknesses, such as BLM getting a teleport, but you only wanted homogenization defined and why it's bad

>>715548231
Ask the devs since they decided that Arcadion was so wildly different that BLM couldn't function in there.

>>715548284
Imagine if this energy would be used for good.

>>715542660
How much of DT was Hiroi then? How much was his fault? Have we been misplacing the blame?

>>715548386
I don't know what that means

>>715542660
Based folder man

>>715545206
Stripping away every ounce of nuance and execution difficulty from SMN and BLM and then adding a new caster which topped the damage chart by pushing the only buttons it has available
Please look forward to 8.0 where half of RDM's buttons will be removed and its melee combo will inexplicably have a 15y range to remove any thinking whatsoever

For some reason, YoshiP has this belief that no one will play the game unless it's a four-button ASSFAGGOTS that you can afk on your phone

>>715546853
Back during the fanfests leading up to Shadowbringers, when they revealed female Viera people asked Yoshida why they didn't show off the males. He gave a non-answer of "Well, there is one more fanfest so..."

Everyone expected the male Viera reveal only to get Hrothgar. And that last fanfest, it was in Japan. Where he knew the audience wouldn't boo him.

It was a calculated, spineless maneuver.

>>715545625
This kind

>>715548087
Holy fuck, they're shitting hardcore on xir. LMAOI.
Also xir changed xir thumbnails because everyone made fun of them KWAB.

>>715540458
I played the expansion myself, it was bad

>>715548476
6.x and 7.0 were almost wholly handled by Hiroi with minimal supervision from YoshiP and Ishikawa while they were busy clawing their way out of MMO jail.

>>715548087
>dirty redditer lying
Why am I not surprised

>>715548582
>Holy fuck, they're shitting hardcore on xir. LMAOI.
>Also xir changed xir thumbnails because everyone made fun of them KWAB.
Wdym, anon? It's shitpostXIV who are the trannies

>>715546784
It's been bad for a long time but it was undeniably blatant that they're deliberately drip feeding 7.2 content in one month intervals to milk as many subscriptions out of you as they can. first you sub a month for 7.2 and then almost a month later cosmic exploration released and then almost exactly a month after that oc released so people could get strung along and pay for 3 out of the 4 and a half months this patch cycle is lasting

>>715540738
>trial boss is endless wol
That wouldn’t make sense but they would be hacks enough to try and recapture the 5.3 magic
However, I think 7.3 was planned to far in advance so an attempt to fix DT wouldn’t have been in the cards bc they would have thought DT was a success in the planning stage

>>715548614
What's beastmaster like?

>>715548695
This isn't surprising, r/shitpostxiv has been taken over by troons for a LONG time

https://old.reddit.com/r/ShitpostXIV/comments/xlgr5v/true_story/

They were the only sub defending Wuk Lamat when even the mainsub was shitting on her hardcore.

>>715538910 (OP)
How many threads about this character you're gonna make?

>>715548418
Please, go on. I find the game design discussion the most interesting part of these threads, especially when it relates to how Anons would like to see the game develop.
Any thoughts on how you'd like to see them develop in order to move away from homogenization?

>>715548208
Yeah, the problem is that for the dev team, the rotation is already "perfect", so all we get now are more buttons in the finisher. Granted, that's pretty much what all other jobs got for DT.
I don't know what they're going to do for the next expac (except melee combo as range at least once per burst), and they probably don't too.
I don't expect more support stuff, it's clear they don't want that kind of stuff for dps jobs.

Personally I wish they'd make it more melee focused, so that you could really claim a melee spot. Maybe they could just change verraise: adding a CD, or requiring to spend a minimum of b&w mana (200 spent would give you 1 charge, something like that)

>>715548818
I suspect less of an 'Endless WoL', more of a mechanical one. Clax got the information on how WoL fights, I wouldn't be surprised if the trial is a weapon he built based off of that data.

>>715548912
They've been at this for a year so hundreds.

>>715540858
Getting ten jobs to max in OC, reclears and summoning the will to find a FT discord
Ill parse the tier in pf but as soon as I have to find a discord group I just lose all interest. Ffs I pfed ToP and FRU why can’t I just do the fucking content, why do I have to find some discord server

>>715548695
None of them are men using a fake female voice and avatarfagging as Athena RUMAO

>>715548959
>so all we get now are more buttons in the finisher
Isn't this just a problem for the genre in general?

Hopefully 8.0 does something different with jobs instrad of Shadowbringers 4.0.

>>715548818
>That wouldn’t make sense
Calyx spent all of 7.2 collecting our combat data, would be weird of him not to use it for the trial somehow

>>715549073
No idea. It's some Baldesion shit.
I got 5 PH jobs to max and now I'm taking it easy since I probably won't go into FT anyway. But maybe I should due to the Occult Log entries and the TT card...... Hmh....

>>715545917
>>715546429
>>715546628
>>715546864
>>715547546
>>715547789
>>715547935
>>715548252
>>715548310
Kate's gonna freak

>>715549073
>Ill parse the tier
>why do I have to find some discord server

Why are you fine with one third-party tool and not the other?

>>715548730
It's so bad if you don't do savage though. Literally 0 point to play an expac before patch .5, at least you have so many stuff to catch up that you won't notice how poor the content was through the expac (and most severe things are already fixed).
And the worst is, "casual" content for SE is pretty much braindead stand & hit. They can do things more interesting, they did it in the past, but nowadays it's just over.

>>715548418
i feel that you're using too broad a brush here. picto absolutely does not play like black mage just because they both have resources they build and spend. samurai and monk both collect stickers but do so in far different ways. all 4 healers have a dot and a dps cast, but M6S had different approaches to how you dealt with adds based on your healer loadout. i feel it would be more appropriate to narrow the scope of the examination down to the actual keypresses, as the definition you're using feels closer to a 'they're all pressing buttons therefore they're the same' shitpost.

secondly, i don't think you adequately explained why its bad. 'not engaging' may be a better term, but other factors have to be taken into account for game design. how much research do you want your players to do when they pick up a new class. does it fit within the role's philosophy. what tools does it have that let it meaningfully interact with its environment.

and ultimately, what is worse: a straight solved meta in which only 1 party setup can take on a certain encounter, or where group building doesn't matter at all and combat classes are all the same but with different aesthetics. 14's answer since the Gordias failure is that all formations should be able to clear. is their answer to that question bad, and if so, what is a better one? and yes, since this is about a tangible thing like game design which will ultimately demand results, 'if you can't think of a better one, we will continue using this one' is an actual answer

>>715549084
>watch the transgender video
>talks about how much better (she) is than all these trannies because she doesn't need hormones and surgeries to be a woman.
>still no real voice
>still no real pictures
Kind of 50/50 on this honestly. on the one hand, it's some pretty cut and dry female behavior. But it's also generally sketchy, and I've seen just as many trannies acting all high and mighty.

>>715549385
>it's some pretty cut and dry female behavior
trannies are equally emotional and bitchy. as are sassy gays

>>715540858
Crafting crafted gear for non-tank jobs (the ones I don't play often).
Getting Moogle tomes to get stuff I'm missing.
I'm thinking on doing Forked Tower too but I need to find a discord group for this, I also don't really know what I need to enter. I hope I can just go with Cannoneer and just spam cannonballs.

Neat. Now I need to do Rokkon.
In its entirety....

Dawntrail IS a good expansion, DR HAN!

>>715549112
yeah but it's been 3 expacs like that now, with the finisher comically doubling in length
DT is the outliner though, because ALL jobs got the same
>Press CD
>cd turn into big (o)gcd

This dudes parasocial crush on Kate is getting kinda strange

>>715549648
yeah, i've been enjoying it
if the msq can stay the course of 7.2 for the rest if the expac, i'll be happy

>>715549838
The guy who's spent every day of his life for the past 5 years defending her? I agree.

If you haven't done Forked Tower yet, don't bother until 7.35. Every patch will lower the tedium required to actually engage the content. Plus by then the only people still running it will be the "community helpers" who get genuine enjoyment out of helping people clear content, all of the toxic trannies trying to speedrun the 100 clears achievement will have fucked off by then.

>>715549914
No I meant the guy bringing her up unprompted

>>715549819
Guild Wars never had this problem. God I miss her...

>>715549920
Yeah, I might wait for a bit. I'll do it eventually, though. I need that TT card.
Hopefully they add a new instance in 7.45 with a normal mode.

>>715549648
The entire point of this scene is that he's 100% right but he's a legitimate autist who's incapable of saying the right thing
The person he's yelling at is the antagonist who gets fired in the next episode
How the fuck are people this dense

>>715549980
Thoughts on the guy who's been white knighting her every day for five years straight?

>>715550127
Less weird than the other guy

>>715550081
Most people using the meme never watched the show

>>715546317
wtf is that mascot character? Sparkster's gay brother?

>>715550081
People haven't actually watched it. Like FFX's laughter scene.

>>715550081
Why would you admit to watching The Good Doctor?

>>715550023
Yeah no rush, unlike content like Chaotic that died and will never come back, there are some really autistic people that love running the foray dungeons. Crazy that people are still running Baldesion Arsenal to this day.

>>715549572
Then do criterion

>>715550280
>unlike content like Chaotic that died and will never come back
I want that mount, I want that fending glam. FUCK, I am so mad that it's dead and it probably won't ever allow unsyncing either.

>>715550081
>People aren't using the stupid meme scene in the proper context!
He's not the only massive autist

>>715550196
Looks like a Sonic character, which makes sense

>>715550313
I will not. I wish criterion was EX trial level.
Do I try to do all 12 paths organically or just grab a guide?

>>715550164

>>715550443
>Do I try to do all 12 paths organically or just grab a guide?
Why even play a game if you're gonna follow a guide? The puzzles are the only fun part of variants.

>>715549124
>remove res from RDM
>remove carbuncle entirely from SMN
>all four tank invulns now behave like hallowed but on a holmgang cd
>fucks healer MP even harder
>replace all dashes and disengages with MNK/VPR flash and give them to every job except SCH
>remove SCH fairy minion and turn it into a different flavor of kardia
>another new card system for AST
>remove all NIN mudras and TCJ, turn raiton and katon into 30s OGCDs
please
look
forward
to
it

>>715550520
Yeah but they were kinda shit in Sil'dih imho.

>>715550280
>unlike content like Chaotic that died and will never come back
Good. FOMO content with their retarded tokens that scale based on the numbers of first clears.
I'm glad I never set foot inside, I don't even want to know the hell it was to prog it. And yeah, they released it literally on new years eve too.
This is when I understood they didn't care about non savage raiders.

>>715550081
It's the exact same thing as the Mad Men meme or the spider-man glasses meme. People are just retards

>>715550561
It's so tiresome

wow won

>>715548925
This is where it gets tricky because you can see WHY they've homogenized it. The main problem with FFXIV, and growingly with MMOs, is that there are no reasons to socialize. There's no reason to group up with people outside of progression because every class can do everything and you don't need to communicate to get it done. They've made a bread machine but people are sick of just bread: the gameplay, story, and patches follow a predictable and formulaic release structure that disincentivizes any experimentation because of failure. So for expansion launches you can expect: 6 base dungeons, two post-story dungeons, 3 trials (two of which get high-level variants post-story) every single time. And you can see this trend all the way back to Heavensward. This also extends out to Crafting/Gathering classes as well, the release schedule for mastery books and gear is so well known that there were crafting guilds that planned to have millions in specific, low-levle materia for when Dawntrails mastery books came out because it would work mechanically the same as it did every other expansion.

They need to do something new. They need to create more free-form content that has the potential to be easily broken. Removing many character class general toolkits in favor of more specialized involvement: you should need certain classes to get through AoE encounters, you should need certain classes to solve issues through "flavor" abilities, such as a ninja being able to sneakily activate a switch or a bard playing a song to open something. I think one of the solutions is instanced content like Bozja with a wider-level differences and unique goals within them that players need to work together for. Rather than running the same fates over and over, maybe there's a certain pattern to a boss you need to summon to get access to specific items. Maybe you need groups of players on switches like Labyrinth of the Ancients except they're across the map from one another.

>>715550586
There was a good intention there with the special system, but I dunno. I don't think I'll ever get anything from there, even though I want it.

>>715550443
Considering that messing up the """puzzle""" means you have to restart entirely, I would use a guide unless you don't value your time. Running it 12 times is enough of a time sink as it is.

>>715550340
There is a discord called RADAR that runs it semi-frequently, unsure how frequent they do new-friendly runs though.

>>715550443
Do them yourself, you're allowed to look up note 3 if it's your last and you get stuck because it was bullshit on the job I played

>>715550706
or this one.
Yhorm the Giant is quite possibly the easiest fight in Dark Souls 3.

>>715550802
>There is a discord called RADAR that runs it semi-frequently, unsure how frequent they do new-friendly runs though.
I'll keep it in mind. I hope YoshiP relents and they add some sort of unsync down the line, just to let people do it easier.
I mean, they let people do savages near-solo years down the line.

>>715550081
imagine unironically watching the goy doctor

>>715550586
>released on new year's eve
Worst. It was Christmas Eve.
>can't imagine the hell it was to prog it
Progging wasn't an issue. It was getting consistent clears. Even if everybody in the alliance had 5+ clears under their belt, all it takes is 1 (one) mistake and all 24 niggas are dying.
It was hell but I really like the cloud mount.

>>715550770
wow we won*
sorry typo haha

had to verify that I'm not a bot, the fucking spammer lives in my country

>>715549920
Ignore this Anon, grind it now while you can get into the tower for free since there's always 16 paypigs, after patch everyone will be forced to grind and put in ciphers for every run. You'll save dozens of hours worth of grinding silver/gold.

>just did HW and SB Beast Tribe Allied quests back to back
Why the fuck do I have to deal with this retarded chuuni cat twice. Can't I just kill his ass?

>>715551090
Patch will drastically reduce the price of ciphers.

>>715549374
No I agree with you on your conclusion, what they've made isn't bad because it's non-functional, it's bad because it's run out of charm. I think there needs to be more specific groups to clear specific content more efficiently, though players would take that to the extreme because that's how they work.

this isn't an easy problem but I think we both agree it is "A problem". As for your too broad a brush, that's kind of the issue: if you are thematically doing the same types of build ups in these classes, then picking up a new one won't feel different. It is familiar and that leads to a faster understanding, but then you don't really feel the difference in class fantasy. It dilutes the ideas of what a class can do to specific number combinations rather than an identity it has. That's also why I put it at 3rd in terms of Homogenization, it pales in comparison to the general player power a different class has in different situations. FFXIV is aimed at a casual audience, it wants to be a game people enjoy and they do! It's just that when the themepark ride is done, there isn't a lot in terms of continual engagement because it's the same thing. People doing MSQ over and over can attest to that.

>>715551148
He's the villain of the ARR allied quest too. But he died at the end of the SB one.

>>715550164
agreed
"fuck off" for years getting called whiteknighting by the guy posting her for years is gigacringe

Shit thread. Post Ryne's ass.

>>715551331
Woops..
I forgot to do Ixal lol.

>>715551148
The vanu vanu quests made me want to kill myself

>>715542660
>So she's the #1 person responsible for the mess that was this expansion (storywise).
>The English localiser is the biggest issue with Dawntrail
Why does every other language also hate it then?

>>715551365

>>715550802
>Considering that messing up the """puzzle""" means you have to restart entirely
>So this one, you have first kill specific ads by their size, then something, then 5 specific emotes in front of an altar
>For this one, you got to climb up a bit of the background, pull a rope, then kite one mob to the previous room so that their aoe can lit the candles
>Ah, yes, the last one! We're going all in! No clicking stuff! Tell exactly THREE specific sentences in front of a statue, followed by a specific amounts of laps around the statue (cw/ccw)
fucking kek, though I didn't mind it since I just googled the paths directly

>>715539407
Why is everything that seems remotely cool in FFXIV just pulled from FFXI? Are they really that lazy?

>>715551348
>"fuck off" for years getting called whiteknighting
Well, that's not what's being called white knighting. What's being called white knighting is the same retard having thread long meltdowns for five years straight any time someone posts the quote of Kate saying she intentionally made the pixies nonbinary solely to set a precedent for implementing nonbinary characters going forward.

>>715543212
>The shitting on of Kate will continue until morale improves.
But you were dumping your folder every single thread during Endwalker too, you disingenuous piece of shit

>>715551448
why does xiv keep giving us hebes
gimme some milfs to keep

>>715540880
Because she had more than enough lines to make her feel horrifically tiresome beforehand.

>>715551448
These are my traveling companions.

>>715551506
Every single puzzle solution is written in the lore entries you unlock by completing other paths.

>>715551506
I tried to figure out the stuff in Sil'dih back in EW and then realized it just isn't my thing.

>>715551448
I don't doubt that other languages dislike it, just not as much as the english version

>>715551708
Lorelets lose again >>715551707
SAD!

>>715551615
Faggots like you are the reason "muscle mommy" troons are so common now

>>715545125
I don't give a shit about Kate, but having someone spam XIV threads about her until it's the only thing we're allowed to discuss is annoying. That's the issue.

You're not going to get someone fired by being annoying on 4chan, just like all the times random 4chan autists try make it their mission to cause a game to flop, they never change anything.

>>715551707
I figured it must come from these tidbits of lore since it's so specific, I just never bothered to read it. Though I think the majority of the people did like me, which is why it's so funny for me: a bunch of clueless people trusting blindly the first thing found from Google, doing nonsensical things.

>>715541664
She is literally the cause of all the expacs problems. Nothing can be developed because every line of dialogue is hoarded by one retarded cat reiterating how much she loves peace and happiness. Nobody else got to have an arc because they gave Wuk the thickest, least impactful arc in the game’s history. We didn’t get to build up real villains because we had to spend more time speaking to Wuk. We literally couldn’t even have a final confrontation without poochie swooping in to killsteal.

>>715540458
but twitter glazes the fuck out of dawntrail

>>715551910
what

>>715539407
Nailed it,
7.0 should had been her call to action, not her whole hero cycle.

>>715551448
more

>Beast Tribe culmination quest has quite a lot of custom animation and cinematography
>So does Hildibrand
>And some other side content
Why do they neglect the MSQ and only rarely give it custom animation? It's the bread and butter story content of the game, yet they put like 5x the work into Hildibrand shit.

>>715539407
Wuk was never going to leave Tural after DT, so giving her a hero arc was fucking dumb in the first place.

>>715540738
I'm suspicious of Shale. So many red flags going on with her, but I'll give it's probably because of shit writing and how they keep using her as a mouth piece to relay information to the player and shove her in as much as they could because of her popularity.

>>715552237
>Wuk was never going to leave Tural after DT
They didn't name her Seventh Dawn and give her more lines than 99% of the cast because they intended to just drop her.

How come none of the princes/princess seemed to know much about their own peoples/cultures beyond Tuliyollal (and you can even say that they even didn't know the capital very well)

>>715544014
Alpaca solo duty would've saved Wuk's character.

>>715552449
Why does my Alpaca mount not have a spit special ability?

>>715552324
She's a politician with (a lot) of extra steps, and she became the leader of two entire continents just recently.
If she leaves Tural, that would make at least 50% of 7.0 completely meaningless

>>715552402
Bad excuse for exposition.

>>715552402
Gulool Ja Ja was a terrible father.

I do find it funny how we went from 2 expansions with not even a hint of female Hrothgar to
>Female Hrothgar playable race
>AND NOW ONE IS THE MC OF THE STORY
Was this, in truth, some roundabout way to get the maximum amount of mileage out of making FemHroths?

>>715552308
Could be, it's just not something I'd bet on

>>715552580
That's why Koana's there. Or, was. They're 100% gonna drop her now. But that wasn't the plan when they made 7.0.

>>715552402
Because the actual worldbuilding was an afterthought that they had to staple on late in devleopment
DT is the longest expansion by a country mile because 80% of the runtime is just doubling back to spoonfeed you shit about the world that you haven't been given a reason to care about.
I really wanted to do the moogle and vanu quests in HW because the snippets you see via the MSQ get you interested in what they're about.
I couldn't give less of a shit about the peru merchants or whatever the fuck because the story dragged on for literal hours forcefeeding you every single aspect of their existence.

>>715552713

>>715552781
The Pelu quests also aren't even about their culture. There's one (1) interesting thing you learn about the history of Kozama'uka in all of those quests, and it's that the waterfalls are named after body parts because the Yok Huy used to rip people apart and throw specific body parts in each one. Everything else is just about running a fucking hotel.

>>715552580
She already left Tural
The entirety of the DT plotline revolves around Wuk crying and dry heaving about becoming hokage, and then the second she's given the crown she fucks off to murder the king and queen of an alternate dimension and appoint herself the de facto ruler because the actual king is 8 years old.
It is the most poorly thought-out and poorly executed story in any Final Fantasy game, which is fucking saying something when it's competing with FF7 Dirge of Cerberus and the shovelware FF15 gacha.

>>715552973
>She already left Tural
Alexandria is a part of Tural now, so not really

>>715553117
PISS AND HAPPINESS FOR ALEXANDRIA
AND TACOS

>>715552973
I'd be happy if Wuk would take Solution 9, Alexandria, all the electrope stuff as well as the shitty modern clothes away, forever, in her fall. Two for one, please!

>>715552402
Zoraal Ja travels the country but just to fight things to make a name for himself while not caring about any of the people.
Koana actively hated his people and left to Sharlayan as soon as possible rather than learn about them.
Wuk was sheltered and locked down to the capital due to threats on her life as a child. but things like being taken to the Hanu's reed festival One Time, or never hearing about her hometown's iconic dish that GJJ invented when making peace, suggest he totally failed at her upbringing for no good reason

>>715546459
>Every raid is now rote memorization of DDR simon says mechancis and bodychecks to serve as artificial difficulty
that's why i quit ffxiv. it's just not fun to study a raid like it's your fucking job and if even one other raid troon fails, you wipe.

at that point, it's just 8 people playing a single player game and if one person fucks up you lose. that's like rolling 8 dice and if anyone rolls a 1, the entire raid fails. if it's like that, i'd rather just play a single player game rather than multiply my wipe chance by 8

Total Volker death

>>715553828
kek

>>715552973
>Wuk goes to Alexandria and leaves Koana by himself
>Koana's struggle is with appreciating the talents and know-how of his people rather than deferring to foreign technology of Eorzea
>Tuliyollal is under siege by Alexandrian forces
>Military gets thoroughly blown the fuck out by superior technology
>Expected solution is to engage in out-of-the-box thinking and devise a "david and the goliath"-tier plot in order to overcome the struggle
>Instead, Bahamut's little brother flies in and near-singlehandedly annihilates the Alexandrians in exchange for buying some rugs
Who the fuck signed off on this

>>715553743
>FT is that but with up to 48 players (and 3 rez)
>CoDCAR is that but with 24 players

>>715553931
>Instead, Bahamut's little brother flies in and near-singlehandedly annihilates the Alexandrians in exchange for buying some rugs
They were short on time and ideally didn't want to deal with casualties, so this actually made sense

>>715553931
at least vrtra got to do something other than cry about his sister

>>715554162
So write it in a way that lets Koana shine as a character rather than short-circuiting his entire fucking backstory and character arc by handwaving the tension so we can go back to watching Wuk Lamat talk about food
I would have rather had a more in-depth B story with Koana and the Scions that stayed behind than just writing off half of the plot in a single cutscene to no one's benefit.

>>715547474
no

>>715546412
hope someone paid for this

>>715554162
Thematically it's in complete contradiction to what Koana should actually be learning as a character.