>>715735254 (OP)Take that fork out of your thigh then.
>>715735254 (OP)Right?
Why the fuck would Lulu go for Wakka? He's a doofus.
>>715735254 (OP)>Yuna, I have to go
>>715735707Hits way harder than Aerith's death if you ask me.
>>715735254 (OP)Ethereal masterpiece. Squaresoft's swan song.
>>715735656>Both guardians>Probably knew each other for a while >Consoled each other over Chappu death They had things in common
>>715736086Yeah but it's Wakka
>>715736161Maybe that's what she liked about him
>>715735254 (OP)Easily the FF with the best story
>>715736280No, I refuse to believe it.
I'm 99% certain that village is like islamic or some shit.
my penis cried when I first saw lulus big fat tiddies
I really enjoy watching videos of girls playing this because they ALL break down at the end when Tidus tries to hold Yuna. Makes me feel something ya know.
>>715736658>Makes me feel something ya know.Pretty sure you're trying to have some weird parasocial relationship to attractive women.
>>715736446Chappu probably was too and she was comfortable living there
>>715736887I forget Lulu's backstory, wasn't she always living there but she has like special red eyes and that's why she can use magic?
>>715735793Same, although to be fair I knew of Aeris so the shock value wasn't there, as intended.
In FFX you know it's coming, and that makes the later portions of the game quite sad. Like Yuna beginning to suspect and her trying to ask Tidus about it. Heartbreaking.
>>715736989I'm pretty sure magic was stored in her breasts
>>715737118I must be heartless or something because they barely knew each other. Didn't they just spend like a week together in terms of time spent?
>>715737202That can't be true because Yuna knows white magic and she's built like a scrawny fag.
Or in other words, a Tidus.
>>715737238>Didn't they just spend like a week together in terms of time spent?Iirc, the journey took actual months ingame.
>>715737335She gets magic from her father's genes and syphoning it from all the dead she sends
>>715737345Pretty sure most of these FF stories take place over a few weeks at best
>>715737238It's not about time, just examine how special their time together was, how important they were to each other.
And I've fallen for a girl in a shorter time. Special encounters spark feelings.
Fellas give it to me straight. I recently played FF7 for the first time and loved it. As gay as it sounds it honestly made this soulless adult feel the magic from when I was a child that I never thought could be experienced again from video games. FFX is always hyped in these threads that I am almost afraid it won't live up to the expectations set by VII. So tell me in your subjective individualized opinion does is it on par or even better?
>>715737605Yeah, and look what happened when she was around you longer then that.
I rest my case.
it's non on nintendo so it doesn't count
>>715737702If you liked 7 you'll like X.
Also, side note, X and 7 take place in the same universe. So if anything you'd be learning about another group within that same dimension.
>be me
>couple of years ago
>play ffx for the first time
>love the game
>really get immersed in the story
>assume yuna will die
>tidus and yunas kiss/dance scene already brought me to the verge of tears because of it
>yuna actually lives
>BEYOND HAPPY
>soulcrushing ending happens
>start bawling like a little girl
>tears, red eyes, snot, tight throat the full package
>door rings
>answer speaker
>it's my fucking gf
>"hey anon, I baked some cake and just wanted to bring you some real quick"
>open door for her
>live on the 13th floor
>have to man up and stop crying to not seem like a weird faggot in record time
>run to bathroom and splash my face with cold water
>apartment door already rings
>open door
>she instantly goes "wtf, anon. you look terrible. are you getting sick?"
>try to play it off and get her to just give me the cake
>"nah, I'm coming inside, I'll make you a tea"
>which she does
>however at this point I feel like I've collected myself again
>she makes tea
>everything going smooth
>she ask me "so, what have you been doing today?"
>instantly think about the ending again
>it all comes rushing back
>wheep and start crying again
>she looks at me giga confused and asks me what's up
>in my desperation I make up a story about how a friend and co-worker of mine died
>she asks a ton of follow up questions
>I answer with a deep web of lies
>she buys it
>says I need to call my work and that I won't come for a few days because of it
>obviously can't do that
>she's super sweet about it, but I have to reject it over and over until we get to a point where she actually becomes really pissed
>get into a really bad argument with her "you never listen to me etc etc etc"
>still together with her to this day but she still sometimes brings up this day when she's mad with me
>still have to maintain the lie
>mfw
>>715737772Yeah if it was Nintendo, no one would be together. Just "hanging around".
>>715735254 (OP)Back when men had to be truly emotionally moved to cry, instead of crying over everything like a stubbed toe.
>>715737717Kek, but what was your case again?
>>715737915>Back when men had to be truly emotionally moved to cryAnon, if my dad saw me cry about something as gay as that scene, I'd never hear the end of it.
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>>715737943That it's stupid to force romance.
>>715738012>Wouldn't beat him for being such a pussyYour dad sounds like a fag.
>>715737849LMAO
>>get into a really bad argument with her "you never listen to me etc etc etc"Classic
NOOOO YUUUUUNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>715738123man fuck you, gains dragon
>>715738135You'll find love someday too, anon
>>715738157Well I didn't cry at the scene though. So beatings were not needed.
Also if you think for a second I'd play something like Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts or anything that wasn't Grand Turismo, Resident Evil, or Metal Gear Solid around my dad...you would be very wrong. Also stupid.
>>715738123I always forget this Bahamut kid is at the beginning of the game
>>715738270I rather live alone and have multiple sex partners.
>>715738494>The gay lifestyle
>>715736446the women walk around almost naked nigga
>>715738463It's fun to replay. You also get early glimpses of the final boss fight area.
And yeah there were some stuff I realized only on a second playthrough lol
>>715737809>X and 7 take place in the same universedebunked
>>715737849kek, what a memory to have
>>715738841It's not debunked. They literally have confirmed this.
Hell even in Final Fantasy 7 Remake they even had an easter egg of Shinra (the character) in a picture with his company....wait for it, called Shinra. You fucking moron.
>>715739030>Final Fantasy 7 RemakeStopped reading there. Compilation shit isn't canon either.
>>715738652>You also get early glimpses of the final boss fight area.wait when
>>715739030source or suck my nuts
i replayed this game recently and i was surprised how often they use prerendered backgrounds. i just never noticed when i was a kid. also i like the game more now than i did when i was younger. i was really stupid back then so i could not fully grasp the systems and made it way harder on myself. also i'd probably replay this game more if i could skip cutscenes.
>>715739164I mean i can link you to several websites that has covered this, links to videos, hell I even took a snapshot when I saw it.
It's a pretty well known easter egg now. You been under a rock?
Also in FFX-2 strategy guide when the X-2 was released they also mentioned it as well.
>>715739139Says who? The entire plot of Remake is about canon.
>>715739507I wish they would return to that, even 13 still did it if memory serves. Allows them to put a lot of detail into a location while not having to render everything surrounding it and also create the mood by choosing the camera angles
>>715735254 (OP)only women and faggots cry
>>715735254 (OP)At what part?
The only time an FF game made me cry was a certain part in FF9.
>>715735656Wakka is one of the strongest party members and he uses a ball to fight, that's pretty sick
>>715739948Devil may run up on a ni**a
>>715740120>Strongest>In a RPG>That has a upgrade progression system which allows characters to get stats from other people's grids.No anon, you made Wakka strong, because you have terrible taste in party and characters.
Rikku is more attractive than Yuna
>>715739598sure thing. I mean when someone asks for source its standard practice to just link it anyways but yeah knock yourself out
>>715740365Well this guy already posted the pic for your lazy fat ass
>>715740052
>>715740302She's also a minor.
>>715739507>i was really stupid back then so i could not fully grasp the systems and made it way harder on myselfsame. i was a disaster with the leveling and made the seymour battle almost impossibly hard on me. then as an adult i realized how OP kimahri is as a wizard
>>715737849You have to tell her, anon. I refuse to believe this is real. Literally just play the game together with her and tell her you're sorry and that your pride made you lie.
>>715740302I didn't used to think much of X Yuna, and Rikku is my waifu, but now I find they're both at their best when together.
>>715740548Based on whose law?
>>715740248No, Wakka has probably the best Overdrive in the game
>>715735793Even Red XIII finding out about his father is a bigger hit in the feels than Aerith's death.
>>715740548Are you presuming to inflict your own ideas on a foreign culture?
>>715740423an easter egg in a multiverse kingdom hearts ass sequel isnt source, retard
>>715740839Which means absolutely fucking nothing when you're playing a JRPG and can become overly powerful to the point most enemies die in a single hit.
Also Auron can literally launch enemies out of the battle.
>>715739030It's called "Easter Egg", anon. It doesn't "confirm" anything but it's a nice theory to fantasize about. That's why it exists, you autistic (man)child.
>>715740865How is it not exactly?
I don't think you know what canon means.
FF7 Remake is a sequel to the og FF7, you'd know that if you actually tried the things you claimed to hate.
Also it's not a multiverse about Shinra, because FFX and 2 take place on a different planet.
>>715740975>Wakka isn't one of the most powerful party members>Okay, he is, but it doesn't matter!Why are you even arguing with me? Auron is my favorite too, doesn't mean he's the best.
>>715741009It does, because they have said it before that X's world and 7 is within the same dimension. Not the same planet.
Auron is cooler in Kingdom Hearts
>>715741154Because I hate Wakka you dumb fuck. I thought I made that obvious.
Auron isn't the best what exactly? You people make blanket statements and I don't know why.
There still dumbass people out there to this day that think time travel was involved in FFX
>>715740548It's all good I was two years younger than Rikku when I fapped to her as a teen.
>>715740858were they planning on pushing some love triangle at the start? that dream sequence was weird
>>715741334I doubt it. Tidus seems like he was just kind of a shmoozer at the start and they were two cute girls he'd just met within the past few days.
>>715741078It's only canon if the creators confirm it. Do you have an interview of them saying so? If not then it's not canon. Similar to when people thought that Ico and SotC were connected because the horns and world similarities, and until the creator said some vague shit that implied one was a prequel, you couldn't say definitely "yes they are connected"
>>715740865why is your asshole so annihilated by this stupid reference that doesn't matter and which would never be followed-up on
I ignore literally the retarded shit they stapled onto FF7, who cares
>>715735707Was literally just watching the scene on Youtube and saw this thread.
God, the FMV's in FFX are so damn good. The music, the unique eastern setting, the gradual understanding of Yevon's endless perpetuation of the cycle of suffering. It's a phenomenal game.
>>715741216It adds nothing to overall lore or narrative. It's just for fun, anon. I'm not saying it's not noteworthy but nothing here is actual evidence.
I liked FFX-2 as well as FFX if only for the 1000 words segment.
The sandbox RPG exploration elements with the true ending only being for autismo's who obsessively grind everything like me also made me happy.
>>715741334No, they were just doing the same thing they did in VII where you can go on a date with someone other than Aerith at the Gold Saucer. The dream sequence where it appears that Jecht is 'stealing' Yuna and Rikku from Tidus is just Tidus' mind projecting his resentment because as a child he thought Jecht manipulated his mother's affection, when we find out later that it was in fact his mother who completely ignored Tidus in order to cling onto Jecht when he was around.
>>715740839it is pretty hardcore
>>715741674why are you using said stupid reference that doesn't matter and which would never be followed-up on as canon evidence
>>715741902please don't post screen shots from the HD vomit atrocity horror show version
>>715735254 (OP)I still don't know when I was supposed to cry, I don't remember the game having any emotional moments at all, and I played it like last year
>>715742080Got an SD version of that? I'll replace it if you do.
>>715735254 (OP)>crying at le bideo gaemzpeak foid behavior
>>715741526>>715741702Now apologize and shut the fuck up.
https://thelifestream.net/canon-of-ffvii/is-ffvii-connected-to-ffx-and-x-2/#:~:text=The%20best%20place%20to%20begin%20our%20analysis%20is,the%20Shin-Ra%20Company%20seen%20in%20Final%20Fantasy%20VII.
>>715735254 (OP)Im currently replaying this and alot of the optional/missed dialogue from the Aeons really cement the idea that while the dream that Tidus is from will be gone, Spira wont let him just die. Really heartwarming stuff.
>>715739140>>You also get early glimpses of the final boss fight area.>wait whenI think it was when sin first transports you. Later in Mihen Sin gives Tidus more glimpses from inside sin, like the area before the final boss where those spikes come up as you collect items. You also see Jecht standing before the gate.
>>715737849imagine not being able to admit to your own partner you cried to a vidya so you fucking lie
why the fuck
>>715742280Why is the guy old in some shots and young in other
>>715742503>Why would men not want to show emotion to their woman?Ask me how I know you're young.
>>715742503Nah, I feel bad for anon if it is true and not just some greentext for Reddit upboats.
Must suck if you've been conditioned to believe that you can't show emotion as a man.
>>715742080You have autism
>>715742280None of these are sincere reactions so it doesn't matter. All of this is bait for Youtube views.
>>715742594>>715742824it's not even about not wanting to show your emotions, anon already broke down in front of his gf, there was nothing left to hide. he just wouldn't admit it was because of vidya and made up shit because of retarded pride somehow?
it's not like crying to fiction is unheard of
>>715742824>Must suck if you've been conditioned to believe that you can't show emotion as a manAnon you're a fag.
>>715742892>it's not like crying to fiction is unheard ofReal men don't cry about romance scenes you closet homosexual.
>>715742824Openly displaying your emotion is just unattractive to women. It sucks but it is what it is. When women say they want "emotionally intelligent men", they don't mean they want you dumping your emotions or issues on them, they mean they want you to be able to understand THEIR emotions when they run high.
>>715742584RDR2 has hair growing tech
>>715742892I mean he did, but if people just admitted things rather than needlessly cover them up life would be better. But he might have suffered a lot that makes opening up difficult so I understand.
>>715742893K.
>>715737849Your gf sounds alright.
>>715742975you're such a badass macho man, i wish i was a robot like you
>>715735254 (OP)It's not that sad pussy
>>715742975I cried a little when I watched Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
>>715743048>Muh chud rhetoricI mean if I was with a Woman like that I'd probably leave her. Not that I've ever been with one.
>>715735254 (OP)This might be the most good vibes FF imo, tied with 9.
>>715743125How old are you? Call your mother right now and ask her if men are known to cry when she was the age you are now.
You're just a pansy dude.
>>715743058are the RDR games good? seeing women like them makes me feel more eager to try them.
>>715743131Literally Tidus and Yuna's daughter.
>>715742824>Must suck if you've been conditioned to believe that you can't show emotion as a man.Dude, my gf called me a faggot for crying when my dog died.
>>715743272kill yourself retard
>>715743324Oh so you can cry about it?
>>715743289I hope you get a better gf anon because she sounds like a bitch.
>>715742840HD version tolerators are not human
>>715743203It's not chud rhetoric, it's just the way it is. Lrn2women.
>>715743282if you like cowboys it's the best cowboy vidya you can get. The T E C H N O L O G Y is crazy too
>>715743189I didn't ask
>>715743125Nothing macho man about it, you're a grown man, you should be more emotionally mature and stable.
>>715743384I try not to generalize all people on the planet, but I won't be able to put your advice to use anyway since I never plan on being in a relationship.
>>715743289I for you just forgot to write "ex-gf". If not grow some fucking balls.
>>715743371You live in some weird lala land kid. Women have made your generation into emotional weak crybabies.
>>715743518Oh the irony of this.
So either way he's a wuss lol
>>715736658https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obPz1q14Ng0
>these men telling other men their emotions are gay
I expect that type of behavior from women, not fellow men.
>>715743461There's no way you're convincing older men that acting like a chick is appropriate. You were groomed into being a emotional chick.
Dude, you're crying over fictional romance like a woman.
4chan always had threads about crying to vidya or anime or whatever
where the fuck do all these andrew tate wannabes come from?
>>715743659You're supposed to be emotionally mature and stable. Not weeping like a little girl when you see a romance scene.
Why the fuck would you cry over a fake romance scene? They're not even real people.
What's next, reading Twilight isn't gay?
I didn't cry but it was still a very touching scene. I didn't know video games could make you feel that way until I played it.
>>715743767There's andrew tate about it.
Kid I'm dead serious, call someone like your parents and ask them if it's manly to cry over a scene in a movie.
You're about to get two different answers if you ask your mom and dad seperately.
>>715743687Your bait isn't going to work on me anon. Have a pity (You) at least.
>>715737849This didn't happen btw
>>715743770If art can't make people feel emotions, then what was the purpose in creating it to begin with?
>>715741948neinneinneinnein
>>715743770>emotionally stableThere's no such thing, retard. It's called bottling things up until it explode and you kill your family and blow your brains out
>>715743897You honestly think it's manly to cry at romance scenes?
You honestly believe that?
>>715743936What is the point of acting like a woman when you're supposed to be the man of the house?
>>715742594If you can't give up 5d chess a year or two into your relationship, you'll become one of these boomers who lose their shit to "wife bad" jokes, laughing to mask their tears over the wasted years. If you're going to treat your woman as something that you need to constantly guard and posture in front of or it will run away and hop on another dick, you're unironically better off fucking hookers, it will be cheaper and less stressful for you in the long run.
>>715743541>>715743612Back to the kitchen, soulless skank
>>715743938Anon, I don't cry at scenes like that. I don't do it because I want to "be tough". I just didn't care what was happening.
I don't cry over made up shit.
>>715744048I see you've been so easily influenced by w*men that you've let yourself be consumed by femoid-tier rhetoric.
>>715743936How does one feel emotions? I allow myself to cry when Tidus goes away but I can literally just "switch it off". When I see people cry my first instinct is to find it cute and smile, and then get joy from it. As in "aww, what a baby, so fragile, cry some please, it's pleasing me".
>>715744146>>715744115>>715744095I like how you three are acting like I'm the crazy one because I'm not a fucking pansy cryng over a scene about pretend people.
You three were raised as fags.
>>715744221I don't even care for a Tidus scene, you're just a sad little man who has to either grow up or live a life of regret.
>>715744323Ironic you call me sad when you're the one who thinks crying like a child or a woman is mature.
You're a wuss. When are you going to grow up little boy?
>>715744182I know anons are going to think you're crazy but when I think about it, I can actually relate to what you're saying at the end there.
It's fine to cry but women do hate it
So trick them into thinking you would never like FFXanon
I unironically and patiently wait for the remake. For me Rebirth became a top 5 greatest game of all time. Hope they do that real time atb system like combat here too
>>715744526This post made me cry.
>>715744414Yes, you're sad, because you can't be honest in front of your woman. You're going to ignore and forget this post, pretending I'm the one being owned, but one day it will hit you like a truck.
>>715744643Anon you're justifying crying like a bitch over pretend people.
They're not even real.
You don't even cry when you see horrible real shit going on in the real world, but you'll cry over a romance scene that would only affect fags and women.
You're that meme of that guy who cried seeing a Star Wars trailer. You're emotionally unstable.
Like a woman.
>>715735254 (OP)Possibly the ugliest and most boring cast ever seen in a video game. Boomers really had nothing else to play. This game is a bad joke.
>>715744119>I just didn't care what was happening.>I don't cry over made up shit.See yourself out then, if I wanted to talk to an NPC I'd chat with chatGPT.
>>715744756>faggot andrew tate wannabe was actually a little brown kid the entire timeYou know, it makes sense
>>715744804Or what? You gonna cry?
You absolute fucking wuss.
>>715744775Of course you're going to ignore
>I don't even care for a Tidus scenebecause you can't face the main point, which is that you can't be constantly pretending in front of your partner. You're supposed to grow past that. Enjoy wearing the mask forever and dying alone, I guess.
>good game = i fucking cried >;(
women ruined this medium
>>715744897No anon, it's pretty simple: I don't cry over pretend shit.
You were not raised by any man. It's obvious.
>>715744604This post made me smile.
Bros Yuna's nip voice is so damned cute.....
>>715744950women saved this medium, anon.
>>715735254 (OP)I cried out of boredom because this cutscene simulator had shallow combat and one of the most retarded presentation ever.
>>715744965You're scolding people on a Chinese blanket knitting site about how they react to a scene that happened in a video game that released over 20 years ago. Who are you to make assumptions about how anyone was raised? Whatever happened to you clearly didn't work out either.
>>715737238They did, but Tidus treated her like an actual person, as opposed to everyone treating her according to what she represented. To everyone else, she was a summoner first, the daughter of Braska second, and Yuna third. There's also the fact that he was willing to fight against the current natural order of things to keep her alive, even after he found out it'd lead to his "death." Even though that last bit didn't happen until they were near the end of their story, it still would have had a massive impact on how she felt for him.
>>715745134through emotional bonding, empathy, kindness and love.
>>715745180So that's a yes, you were raised by chicks. That's why you act like the way you do. You're faggy.
>>715744526they've already said they won't bother touching X until after VII is done
and then a X-3 seems to be on the menu over anything else
>>715744965>still fixates on the game cinematic instead of defending >>715742594, pretending to be le mature manMore introspection, less posting.
>>715745256Actually, I was raised by my father. And very early on he made sure to tell me not to give a shit what women think about anything.
>>715745230What does any of that have to do with video games?
>>715735254 (OP)Based, FFX was my first time with Square as well.
>>715745230Women don't know what any of these mean. What are you talking about?
>>715745312Anon, just admit you were raised by a woman. You're not fooling anyone.
>>715736161Who reminds her of Chappu. Come on anon, not hard to figure out.
>>715745332And look where that got you, crying over cartoon characters.
>>715735793I mean it is animated better
>>715745409>Chappumoar liek Chap-who? amirite
>>715745409It does because Wakka is still Wakka. And if he reminds Lulu of Chappu, that means Lulu is using Wakka as a substitute to "still have Chappu", not Wakka for being Wakka.
>>715737238With how long it took me to beat evrae, the various Seymour fights, the bull creature at the beginning of zanarkand(cool design), Yunalesca and the chocobo race it might've just been a few months to a year.
>>715744775bro your not even a man your on fucking 4chan. Your a fag just like the rest of us lol
>>715737849kek
Should have told her they had titanic on tv.
>>715739030To this day it still upsets people so they will literally deny the canon. I wish they had this same energy in R=U but they probably hate that too
>>715745785That doesn't even make sense. I don't cry over cartoon characters like you do. I'm a grown up who was raised properly.
>>715737702FFX was my first and it is very good. The first 10-15 mins of the game you'll be like " okay so yup this is happening... Ok.. that just happened...?" But then it gives you a breather and the story flows so smoothly you'll wonder who wrote it. The story is probably the easiest non sprite FF to understand but that doesn't mean it necessarily lacks quality. Blitzball could've been better, I liked it on the second playthrough however it's not really forced upon the player. The "twist" in the game is very good as well. Although as an adult you've probably already seen the trope by now.
boomer nostalgia garbage
main cast is worse than fucking metaphor
>>715737849I once was at a homeless shelter at 18 and some dude played suteki da ne and it almost made break down as I remembered how much I played the crap out of FFX at 13 years old. I would listen to that song like everyday
>>715746224I noticed you didn't mention what's better.
>>715738123A lot of people don't know this(at least people on gamefaqs and neoseeker in 2012) but if you revisit the temples after beating the game the fayth will give you massive lore dumps. Kinda explains the temple on Sin as well.
>>715746049I think FFX has the best world-building of any mainline title. Spira's RL inspirations are so rarely seen in fiction that it really does feel like an alien place. Nomura's designs reflect that quite well too. I also rate the battle system up there with the best in the series, it has several difficulty spikes that actually make you think about the combat. The difficulty being far too easy was one of the main gripes I have about the PS1 titles.
>>715746475What? FFX is the easiest one.
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>>715735254 (OP)its young adult novel kino
the romance was well done
>>715746541>Guys liking romance plots in 2025Jesus fucking christ your parents have failed you all.
>>715743810FFX had a lot of pseuds calling it too anime because of that scene and others.
>>715746529When I marathoned VII-X last year, the first time I got a game over was here.
>get near the end area
>do monster arena grind
>get some of the ult weapons
>kill few super dark aeons
>stop playing
>forget why I stopped
>start a new game
>>715746757>Uses WakkaWell there's your problem.
>>715746309Literally any JRPG? The main cast of FFX is not only boring, but they also look like they just walked out of a clown circus. Tidus is insufferable, Wakka's design is awful, and the game acts like I care about Yuna and her problems enough to make her the focus of everything.
>yunalesca fight
>that 5 minute cutscene each time you die to bullshit
>>715746813That's me for a lot of rpgs. I do a bunch of shit, forget what was going on or what I'm supposed to be doing, restart, rinse and repeat.
>>715746880So name the ones that are better.
I tap Yuna to bring Tidus back with a finality counter.
>>715746880>and the game acts like I care about Yuna and her problems enough to make her the focus of everything.What else would the game even be about?
>crying over a video game
>>715747153They act like that's normal behavior.
>>715744182How do you stop crying
>>715747148Auron, being so bad ass even the afterlife can't keep him down.
>>715746880same I'm just following lulu
>>715747313I found the way they handled Auron's backstory with the previous pilgrimage to be extremely well executed as is
>>715747460Auron and Lulu are the only two interesting characters in terms of wanting to know more about them.
Rikku can stick around as the comedy relief or whatever, Khimari is fine.
But Yuna, Tidus and (especially) Wakka? No.
>>715745534YES! You understand it now. Trauma runs deep. Sin mind fucked them all. Kimahri protected Yuna because of the debt to braska? Or maybe he was just too scared to go home. Did Auron spend his time seeking out Zanarkand to look after Tidus like he promised? Or did he immediately chimp out and go attack Yunalesca who personally killed him unironically allowing him to go to Zanarkand? Wakka presumably knows less about scripture than Yuna. Yet Yuna is able to make up her mind and denounce Seymour whilst Wakka shits himself in tears. Lulu likes Wakka because he is the closest thing to Chappu. That dudes name is mentioned mainly by three people. His brother Wakka, his pal Luzzu who was there when he died fighting Sin and Lulu. Not by Yuna though despite her growing up with him. Luzzy and Wakka make sense. Lulu?
FF really does make authentic characters. See the aerith, cloud and Zack dynamic for more proof
>>715747576No, shut up. You have terrible taste in characters.
>>715746529If you've never seen the leveling system before in other games it is hard. Also depends on how early you learn to abuse Rikkus overdrive as well
There will never be another game as good as FFX.
At this point, I hope that Square don't ever return to Spira.
>>715747693Oh, I guess that makes more sense. I was 17 when FFX came out and it was not my first JRPG. I wanted a PS2 with FFX being one of those reasons.
>>715735793Aeris dying isn't that sad, it's the scene where your party members try to console Cloud that hurts. Just watch Red XIII and Yuffie's. Heartbreaking.
https://youtu.be/jrPP9HzmPPQ?feature=shared&t=96
>>715747737>There will never be another game as good as FFX.What are you talking about? There are multiple JRPG games better than FFX.
Final Fantasy is not even my preference, I prefer Shin Megami Tensei and Dragon Quest over Final Fantasy at this point.
X was honestly the last time I was into the IP. Despite playing many other Final Fantasy games after that, they kept more and more experimental and progressive for no reason.
>>715746475Yeah FFX had some insane world building. Truly felt unique. Even the word "Zanarkand" is known in other Vidya communities. I disliked how it kinda felt like walking down a hallway although FF13 is far worse in that regard. I think FFX did well with keeping the locations "normal looking"(i.e besaid, the al bhed desert, Mt ronso) but dressing it up with the in game culture. Some places are definitely fantasy though like the tree place where suteki da ne plays
Walking through the ruins of zanarkand and seeing the past summoners talking their final moments was so kino
>>715735254 (OP)FFX was really good
and I like how much coping and seething good games cause fags and redditor tourists on /v/
>>715746757Lmao they were softies in this one. When Rikku leaves to get the others they should've made you have to use Tidus alone for more than one turn.
>>715746813Same happened for me with FF9 with the chocobo quest and suikoden with trying to perfectly collect every person
arguably the greatest Final Fantasy of all time
too bad they put a FUCKING DARK AEON IN BESAID WHERE THE ONLY AL BHED PRIMER IM MISSING IS
>>715748014it's just harder to take seriously when they're lego people, remake had an opportunity to do something very impactful but well..
>>715747673Wakka racism was pretty funny too
>>715747737I recently have gone to Atlus for my jrpg needs. SMT is doing me well
>>715748290>arguably the greatest Final Fantasy of all timeLet's calm down a bit. You clearly have not played many Final Fantasy games.
>Wakka haters
You sand blasted grease monkeys!
>>715748354>Wakka racism was pretty funny tooWhat doesn't make sense is Wakka has unique skin tone compared to literally everyone else.
>>715748290At least you had the pal version with the dark aeons.
>>715748423>Zidane below TidusThis is criminal
>>715748382It is usually hailed by people who's first FF was X to be the greatest. Out of the 16 entries there are really only like 5 that could take the title.
>>715748382I've played 1-13 + Tactics. I'd consider putting it in top 3. There are some pretty big flaws that would make me reluctant to do so, i'd have to think on it
>>715748549Well considering the fans are a bunch of autistic trannies crying like they're chicks about the story, that doesn't mean much to me.
>>715748423What were they thinking with that movie.
>>715748610>TacticsWhen you say Tactics are you meaning OG or War of the Lions?
>>715748037I could never get into SMT or DQ, tried a couple of times but didn't feel it was for me.
>they kept more and more experimental and progressive for no reasonI have no way of proving this but I think they were burnt out from making FFs, they churned out 7 8 9 and 10 within 4 years which was an insane run.
At that time, the FF games were being criticised for their turn based combat when the industry was going in an action-based direction. They were trying to meet the demand and play catch up with the west which fucked up the entire IP
Now, they should be returning to their classic formula that the market has simmered and there is visible demand for turn based RPGs again (Clair Obscur, BG3, etc.). It'd be so easy for them to return to form and have FF17 be a breakout hit but they will keep missing the point and make actionslop
>>715748703I honestly think FF became progressive while DQ stayed traditional because FF and DQ used to be rivals. But when the merger happened, they had both IPs working together so I think they wanted to keep making both franchises and made FF the experimental one and kept DQ to remain traditional.
>>715748683I only played the OG, haven't played War of the Lions
>>715748703They kept switching writers and directors
>>715748829FF began being more experimental and cinematic before the merge to be fair. When you compare FF1 to FF7 it's already a huge departure in so many ways.
>>715748914If you enjoyed Tactics I highly recommend War of the Lions, it's the same game but they added a bunch of stuff like new characters and side stuff.
>>715748946I don't mean about the cinematics, I meant more of like playstyle.
I bought this game on a rainy London day when life was absolutely uneventful, completely changed the game for me
>>715749070>LondonI remember that city, that used to be a decent city until it became a middle eastern hellhole.
Man PS1 Era Square was something else. So many good Jrpgs. Where did all the quality go?
>>715749003>If you enjoyed TacticsYeah, I consider it part of the mainline series even if it's a spinoff. another contender for the top 3.
I was gonna replay it sometime, I'll have to do the Lions version instead
>>715749229I had most of these besides Threads of Fate, Saga games, Vagrant Story, and Xenogears.
I should try Saga and Vagrant sometime. i keep forgetting they exist.
>>715747297I stop whatever is responsible for what I think are supposed to be emotions. It's like a switch. "Hold on, l have better things to do than to cry. Done? Yeah, let's do it." Emotional people confuse me. It's so easy to do. On and off, like a light switch.
>>715748549>who's first FF was Xnot that guy but I've played all FFs except for 15 and 16. First was 7, then played through the classics before X.
X is clearly the best in all aspects. I think the PS1 games have a lot of charm that is not replicable and what I think people should think of when they think FF but X has a lot of bests
>best combat>best level progression>best setting, story and characters>best end-game content>best difficulty balance (assuming you aren't grinding side quests before the end)I can't think of any major cons other than unskippable cutscenes on replays and that some people HATE puzzles which make the cloister of trials a dealbreaker.
The PS1 games have a lot of jank and problems weighing them down, flawed gems.
>>715749347Oh also they added two classes, onion knight and Dark Knight.
>>715749229Crazy that I had/rented/played all of these and it all came from a single dev
Those SNES FF re-releases were botched in a lot of ways though
Yuna was the best female character of videogames, but she appears
I'm sorry yuna haha
what do you Tidus body count was before he met Yuna considering he's an all star blitz player
>>715749565>Those SNES FF re-releases were botched in a lot of ways thoughAre the ones they recently released digitally botched?
>>715749403Vagrant Story has an amazing setting with one of the coolest villains but the battle system is just autistic and not in a good way.
>>715749609Two.
Lulu and Rikku.
>>715749607>Yuna was the best female character of videogamesThis is the dumbest comment in this thread minus the people praising Wakka.
>>715749607yuna is not even top 100 best girls
boring used goods slut
>>715749565Is threads of fate good?
>>715749707>yuna is not even top 100000000000 best girls*Fixed for you.
>>715749641>battle system is just autistic and not in a good way.>not in a good wayI don't understand, what's the good autistic way?
>>715749640Pixel remasters? You have to download mods to make the text not look like it's a cheap ass mobile piece of shit. I haven't looked too much into how they handled the translations, which would be a major factor in whether they're good or not. I usually just stick to emulating the SNES versions themselves, even if they've got some fucked up translations
>>715749710It's just okay, nothing special
>>715749607This is the dumbest comment in the thread minus the one dude hating Wakka
>>715749838I meant the ones they have released for PSN
>>715749607I like Maelle.
I also like Wakka.
>>715749609I mean it was all ghost/memory/pyrefly pussy
>>715749885>minus the one dude hating WakkaI am successfully hating Wakka. As anyone with taste would do.
>>715750028How am I supposed to fly a chocobo over that?
>>715749916Oh, I have no clue. The PS1 re-releases had some extremely fucked load-times for some reason, and on top of that FFV got hit with one of the worst translations I've ever seen. So unless they said they re-translated it for some reason I would steer clear.
desu FFX should have had a area in the sphere grid that had like 5 +10 nodes of each stat.
cut down on the pointless extra grinding
>>715750043No, they have recently released FF1-6 again on PSN. I was asking if the newer releases are botched/bad.
>>715750082I don't think it's a re-release of the PS1 version.
>>715749229Is there a version of this for the PS4 era?
I love FFX but I'm tired of press A and othe damned cinematics that I can't skip.
isn't there a mod for the combat system like expedition 33?
>>715750239Some of them, but not all.
>>715750278just watch a playthrough and fast forward. that's the most optimal way to "play" a jrpg.
>>715750278>isn't there a mod for the combat system like expedition 33?This is highly unrealistic expectation.
>>715750196https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/final-fantasy-i-vi-bundle/
If it's this, then they're the pixel remasters. I don't use the PSN so I'm not sure otherwise
do anons who enjoyed ffx like honkai star rail? i seomtimes saw comparisons but upon playing i didn't really understand why people would say that.
>>715750539>then they're the pixel remastersIs that a good or bad thing?
>>715749479Like this
>>715749810anon said, the lack of strong exploration is a huge con in my mind. Reducing overworld travel to a menu system sucks and there isn't much going on when it comes to the on-foot maps either. I would say it's the most glaring problem with the game
>>715750278Was it hard for gamedevs to put a skip cutscene button back then wtf
>>715750571anon just said that one would need a mod to fix the fonts. they're also censored like everything since the original JAP releases. The Pixel Remasters specifically also don't contain the content from later releases like the GBA dungeons and extra classes. The music might also not to be one's liking. It's mostly good but some tracks just sound off to me and not in a good way.
>>715750708I don't even know when skipping cutscenes even became a thing.
Heeyy, just now you sounded like a leader, you know.
>>715750743I'm a console guy and I like gettting trophies to show my e-peen
>>715750806everybody in the cgi cutscenes is
>>715750851you'll probably manage then. i'm just a huge nitpicker and perfectionist.
>>715735254 (OP)You are. A pussy
>>715750851Yeah if you're willing to spend money the pixel remasters are playable and the flaws will probably only bother autists like me an the other anon.
>>715750996It does suck it won't have everything they added.
I don't think the Tactics HD is going to have war of the lions content either.
>>715750673I think it's strange that people still to this day get hung up on the world maps. The world maps were always the result of technical limitations, especially by the time of 3d FFs. Walking around a big, low poly environment with random encounters is not really adding anything to the games.
The world maps did not make the games any less linear, you are still railroaded (unless you get lost like a retard), X just gave a more detailed environment without going full XIII hallway-mode. X got the balance right.
Lost Odyssey I think has a world map and that sucked
>>715751456FF8 and 9 had pretty nice world maps desu
>>715751456they make the world feel huge no matter how linear they actually were. getting lost was part of the appeal of a journey. presentation matters.
FYI dream Zanarkand wasn't a matrix simulation type thing. It was a physical place manifested out in the ocean and all Sin did was ferry him.
You were paying attention, right?
>>715751456>The world maps did not make the games any less linearThat's not true. There are several breaks in the games where you can leave the main path to do some optional things if you so desire, and by walking through the open world to do it, it gives a sense that you're discovering things in a fantasy world on your own. I think FFV and FFIX are probably the best examples of this.
I understand that there were limitations at the time, especially when making a game as cutting-edge as FFX was when it came out. But I disagree that they got the balance right. The game's environment feels claustrophobic. At the very least I can say that the plot of a pilgrimage was probably the best way they could have handled making a game where you are essentially walking down a single corridor for most of the experience.
>>715735254 (OP)It was the last good 3d mainline final fantasy. FF entered a different era after this one.
>>715749974Why do you hate him so much?
>>715751638Nice music, and comfy but the games wouldn't be much different without the maps.
The only time an FF map has really worked for me was in FF7 when you first leave Midgar, you're in this vast world and the main theme plays.
I think most of the shock was due to how much time we spend in Midgar just to find out that this is just a small portion of the world. Beyond that, the shine kind of wears off.
>>715751769I don't hate the maps, I just think the hatred X received and still does over the maps is mostly unfounded seethe. The biggest argument is that X is too linear and that is because there is no map to walk around.
Nobody would list "it has an overworld" as the reason they love any of the previous FFs, it's just not something that greatly impacts the overall experience. I think in the case of X, it would have stunted the narrative experience and flow of the game.
>>715751964There are no bad FF
>>715751916>There are several breaks in the games where you can leave the main path to do some optional things if you so desire, and by walking through the open world to do it,X also gives large breaks to the main story and lets you explore and interact with the characters. It does a way better job of establishing it's setting through character exploration and interaction rather than loredumps.
You also have the ability to travel around the world in X and do things completely unrelated to the main story.
There's no difference in linearity, just the method of travel.
>>715752201>but the games wouldn't be much different without the maps.Dont realy agree. Iโll take 9 for example as Im more familiar with it. You get a bettet feel for how the locations are positioned against each other and the scale. But also how some of it ties into the lore when you see the kingdoms all built upon mountains to avoid the mist. Youโd miss little details like this.
I agree with you that modern FF games have gotten too much shit for not having them, but at the same time they did add a certain quality that also shouldnโt go underappreciated.
I played FFX over 5 or 6 times at least. I'm due for another replay. Plenty of dialogues and sequences are memorized photographically. Just hearing the music lets me dive into Spira in the blink of an eye. This world and its inhabitants feel real to me. I didn't cry until I've realized that Tidus, Yuna and Co. were no less real than consensual reality. "This is my story". I felt that. It's a spiritual experience to me.
>>715753542>Plenty of dialogues and sequences are memorized photographically.Same. For me, peak FFX is the lead up towards Zanarkand. Someday The Dream Will End is some of my favorite vidya music ever
>>715753542Same, I remember the Auron speech vividly, many Seymour quotes like when you summon anima or the "your death means your father's life", the Yunalesca speech on hope and the whole scene in general and Auron crying to Yunalesca.
Should I emulate or play the remaster?
>>715756138IIRC there are mods that mix the bogged character models and shitty music for it. And I know for sure there is one where you can also easily change the voice language as well so there is that if you like nip dubs.
>>715735254 (OP)is there a single ending better than FFXโs? seriously, the full cinematic is probably the peak of video game storytelling. such an elegant bookend, without having to rely on convoluted fantasy. especially once you fully grasp Tidusโ inner anguish through his facial expressions.
maybe i just identify with him so much. the type of benevolent man who inspires hope while burying his own turmoil to avoid burdening loved ones. to the point where one ends up resenting how deep that mutual attachmentโs grown, knowing the anguish itโll cause when one's forced to sever the tie.
it really should've stayed a standalone game.
>Jecht high fiving Tidus not cause he saved Spira, but secretly cause he knows Tidus nailed Lord Braska's daughter
>>715741295Yeah but Wakka is the strongest endgame character when you're fighting enemies that can't be instantly killed, like all the uber bosses.
>>715752645How does Yuna feel about this?
How does this game compare to Expedition 33? I tried the SNES FF games and they wrent really my thing
>>715757931This game is more like e33 than any other FF. I would give it a try. It has a good hook so you'll know pretty quick if you'll like it or not
>>715755179>For me, peak FFX is the lead up towards Zanarkand. Someday The Dream Will End is some of my favorite vidya music everSame
>>715757336I think some of the updated music is actually better than the originals, but then others are fucking butchered.
>>715756138emulate the international PS2 version
it starts with japanese in the menus but can be switched to english. Only thing missing is an option to play with the jap dub.
>>71575793110 is the only GREAT FF game.
>the movie Titanic comes out
>Final Fantasy 8 has a heavy star crossed lovers theme a year and a half later
>movie The Sixth Sense comes out
>FF10 steals the twist a year and a half later
HOW CAN SQUARE KEEP MAKING THESE HITS, IT'S SOOooooOOOO CRAZY HOW GOOD THEY ARE
>>715757931Expedition 33 is a copy of FFX
>>715757742Wakka falls off against the very top arena bosses and superbosses. The celestial weapons all have a hidden defense piercing effect but it doesn't work with overdrives, so you end up needing to switch back to regular attacks (using the quick attack skill so you can get your next turn back faster) to get back to doing max damage against bosses with huge defense stats and immunity to armor break. Trying to do bosses like Dark Anima only with Wakka overdrives takes an eternity because it only does like 300K damage against his defense, which only takes a couple of seconds with 100K quick attacks.
>>715737849I didn't cry, but I definitely had to go take a walk.
I guess it helped that I thought Titus was an obnoxious faggot.
Expedition 33 kicked my ass way harder.
>>715758363I don't remember that being a thing but I'll take your word for it.
Is e33 actually any good? I always get turned off of games /v/ relentlessly shills.
>Blitzball
>Chocobo Race
>Dodging Lightning
>Collecting Butterflies
Which was the worst one?
>>715758683FFX has a couple of under the table things like that. For example Brotherhood starts out with only Strength +5. But after leaving Guadosalam, it gets a buff. Strength +10, Waterstrike, and Sensor. Nothing in the game tells you that you just got a stronger weapon that's more effective against electric enemies as you're heading into the Thunder Plains, which is full of electric enemies
>>715758683I wrote a lot because some guy went apeshit when I explained it in another FFX thread and I wanted to be specific in case he's lurking
>>715758852I don't like Blitzball so I've never once got the Jupiter Sigil or Wakka's Overdrives
>>715758852chocobo race AND dodging lightning bolts can go fuck themselves
>>715758797Yeah its great just pirate it if youre concerned
>>715758972>How you answer questions and healing people determine your bond with the party members and who rides with you on the snowmobile Why was this a thing?
Reminder Tidus kicked a bomb and died.
>>715759436The threads on the board that happened after that book came out were so much fun
>>715758852>literally just a side game>annoying mini game that requires you to get better at it to complete>actual literal torture with no significant reward since lulu is the second worst late game character>vaguely annoying mini game that you only need to complete onceGee anon idk
>>715758132nigga the twist of sixth sense is that no one else can see the mc besides the kid, not that he's dead
>>715759085the same reason there were multiple variations of the gold saucer scene in ff7
>>715759870also Tidus isn't dead. he's also not just a dream, he's "dreamed into reality". his version of Zanarkand exists and is inhabited by real people, just powered by the Fayth.
>>715759436the best part about this is realizing that FFXIII was so shit it mindbroke everyone involved
nojima went from it to dumpstering VII and X with all this retarded side story stuff and the other writer never moved on or went back to KH
I took this game from my older brothers room because he never let me play games he got as a gift and I got most of the way through the game until he found out I was playing it and took it back and deleted my save off my memory card
>>715760039i know he's still working, but it sucks that Hamauzu's contributions were wasted on XIII. dude could have become as iconic as Uematsu.
>>715760231Fuck your brother
>>715743650i like how tidus actually looked super asian in the cinematics
that whole SEA aesthetic is really great, its one of the few jrpgs i actually like
>>715760231YOU CAN'T DO IT KID
There's nothing wrong without linearity of FFX because it's a pilgrimage. Pilgrimages are linear.
>>715741295Why do you hate Wakka
>>715760579do people really criticize the linearity? that's some bozo shit
>>715760579there's nothing wrong with linearity in general.
>>715760660Well, Americans seemed to have a problem with the laughing scene because they cannot understand context. I've seen FFX's linearity criticized quite a bit.
>>715737702I love 7 and hate 10. I think 10 was the beginning of the end and it fucking sucks in almost every way. The only redeeming qualities are Wakka because he's the only likeable character and Kimahri because he's the only fuckable character. The idea behind the story is cool but I hated the way the story is told and the characters and the hallways and the music was a huge downgrade from the Nomura era. The voice acting is overall pretty bad except for Wakka. Yuna's voice acting stands out as by far the worst. Ironically the hahahaha scene that everybody memes on is one of the only times that Yuna's voice acting is decent.
>>715760579No, there's nothing wrong with the linearity in FF10 because you get lots of rest stops at interesting locations where you can talk to people and do sidequests. For example FF13 is also linear but has nothing interesting in any location; you always just want to run to the next screen as quickly as possible.
>>715743650I was fucking 12 when I played FFX and basically had the same reaction. God fuck X-2 for existing.
I pity the people who got to experience FFX in its demastered chinkified version.
i love yuna so much bros wtf
>>715760912I pity people who didn't have their minds blown by seeing the leap in technology the moment they popped in that FFX disk for the PS2.
>>715760986i first saw it at my older brother's friend's house soon after the PS2 was released. shit blew my mind. i've lost most visual memories but i still have that one.
>>715760986I went from playing FF7 on my PS1 to seeing the FFX review on Toonami and thinking that game was from the future
https://youtu.be/YwWs8JVR5e0?si=c_gw4QODXFCjV2V5
>>715760986I was visiting a friend's house and asked them what movie they were watching because I went straight from the NES to an N64 (I was still a kid when the PS2 came out, my family just didn't spend a lot on videogames).
>>715758132FF8 was inspired by Lost Highway but it went over everyone's head
It is the penultimate Final Fantasy game, and it's probably getting a remake
>>715760986It was having voice acting for me
>>715763663I always loved that Seymour reacted to that. That's what makes video games feel alive to me
>>715761984>I can't write a good story, so I'll just make it WEIRD XDYeah I figured FF8 had some kind of connection to David Lynch the talentless faggot hack
>>715757673>endings women cant understand.gif
His reviews aged poorly compared to the game.
"Men" crying at bad romance in a video game.
Pathetic. I can tell who you voted for.
>>715765872Vermin Supreme
>>715760986My first games on PS2 was GTA3 and FFX. It was incredible.
>>715764981HE aged poorly compared to the game
>>715765872Is this the toxic masculinity stuff foids are always whining about?
what the FUCK was their problem locking tidus's ultimate weapon behind the worst minigame ever conceived?
>>715766732Lightning dodging was worse than chocobo races
>>715766785theres a supereasy spot to "cheese" the lightning
,i got 100 on my first try going for it
chocobo racing is just turbocancer
expedition 33 wishes it was as good as ffx
Bros I gotta be honest Iโm playing this game right now and Iโm on a docked ship with everyone waving goodbye to me and I donโt know where to go do I start the ship up or what
>>715760771>>715760717>>715760579>linearStop using the word that way. Linearity does not, has not, and will never refer to a lack of a world map. Nonlinear gameplay means that game allows you to complete required storyline quests in any order. Dark Souls is an example of a nonlinear game. Meanwhile, all Final Fantasy games are linear.
>>715766879I found a spot like that too with a definite pattern and faster strikes (the farther north on the Thunder Plains, the faster the lighting strikes) to power through them faster. It's still cancer and what makes it worse is Lulu's weapon isn't even worth it, unlike Tidus's. I'll never do lightning dodging again.
>>715767407When in doubt, talk to Yuna.
>>715758132actually FFX is Matrix
FFXII is star wars
>>715758039Why'd you want the jap dub?
>>715767407*waves goodbye to you*
>>715757931I dropped e33 after ACT 2 because story dropped the ball, hard. Gameplay is fine but the plot, music, art design are not in the same realm as FFX. E33 is a jrpg for people who hate jrpgs.
Is ff5 any good? I never hear anything about it.
>>715767820See how the other half lives
>have done everything that would've gotten me the platinum twice but played on switch
Not gonna lie im kinda tempted to buy it on ps5 and get that damn platinum once and for all. On the other hand idk if I can handle lightning dodge and chocobo and monster catching a 3rd time.
>>715767586There's a spot you can walk onto that always triggers an instant strike. It's still pretty silly and a player troll but I can live with it
>>715768423It's the most light hearted game in the main series but yeah it's a really fun adventure with one of the best job systems.