Thread 715738595

do you like fighting games?

One character in this picture blatantly does not belong.

No.

Yeah.

>>715738595 (OP)
No, I'm White

No

Maybe

>>715738595 (OP)
Yeah but only when I’m playing local with my friends

>>715738750
>American
>white

>>715738595 (OP)
How do they tolerate the shit smell?

>>715738595 (OP)
i liked ultimate mortal kombat 3 i could do the moves and combos there but i am horrible at basically every other fighting game

>>715739307
>muh Americans out of absolutely nowhere.
least obsessed eurofaggot

>>715739558
>doesn't deny it
lmao

anyone up for some aacc?

>>715739880
i never played aacc, sorry

>>715738595 (OP)
i like mugen
a shame it's fucking dead in the water though

>>715740564
you should, it's fun

>>715738685
Rachel is the only one I want to fuck so I can only assume it's her

>>715738595 (OP)
I only like SF 3 and 4

>>715738595 (OP)
I tried to get into Strive because they dumbed it down for troglodytes like me but haven't really played since the whole Bridget shitshow

>>715740638
>you should, it's fun
I dont think brain is powerful enough to play more than 1 fighting game

>>715738595 (OP)
I have mixed feelings about them. It frustrates me when I lose to people who aren't that good. I know that I'm bad, but I could be better.
I guess reading guides and watching high level matches are worthless to me if I can't dominate players who would call me a nerd for mentioning stuff such as frame data.
You can easily tell by reading this post that I have some sort of ego. Unfortunately, the only way to get rid of it is to stop playing altogether.

>>715739880
sure I'll play a bit

>>715738685
Is it niggeryuki?
I bet its niggeruki

>>715738595 (OP)
I do!
I am now old and slow, my hands clumsy and brittle. I can no longer play like I used to 20 years ago but I still enjoy them very much.

Vampire OP
But what about chinese girls?

>>715742118
Based crumbling boomer skeleton

>>715742203
>Li Xiangfei made it
>Xiaoyu didn't
SNKbros, we are so back...

>>715741452
aacc is retard friendly

>>715741743
https://invite.meltyblood.club/6927

>>715742312
Lei Fang is in there too, doesn't mean DoA is back neither.

>>715738595 (OP)
Anime vampires are always so wack. Dimitri is a real one for midnight bliss though he's alright.

>>715742482
>aacc is retard friendly
I think i expressed myself in a bad way, i meant to say: im probably not spending much time (50< hours) in AACC compared to +R or BBCF.
Also, not sure if the discorders gonna deal up with a 200ms yuropoor like me

Yes I do

>>715738595 (OP)
Yes, but then everyone wanted to reduce them all to a formula, make up acronyms for absolutely every situation, and with the dawn of the internet they're all filled with meta gameplay and power rankings now. I haven't had real fun with a fighting game I'd say since Street Fighter 2 HD Remix. I guess they were too complicated back then too because everything has the ease of access one button move set trend. If it's not that it's a bombardment of DLC as if they didn't plan on having those characters in the game. Marvel Tokon for example... sad to me as a marvel fan of many years to see a 4v4 fighting game announced... with 4+4 characters announced.... looking forward to that really big roster with no microtransactions.

what fighting game character can use bionic arm

>>715738685
Jiren in the background?

>>715738595 (OP)
I like anime game movement, but I hate playing anime fighting games because they expose me as a masher who can't do simple inputs in combos

>>715744831
Arizona

>>715738595 (OP)
Not really. I played a lot of Mortal Kombat 2 and 3 as a kid and a little Street Fighter 2, but I've never been into the genre. I do like looking at arcade sticks though. I'm tempted to buy one but I would realistically only use to play beat 'em ups and the odd shmup here and there

>>715745082
mashing gives you like 2k-3k dmg combos though which is fine enough

love me some firepro

>>715738595 (OP)
Yeah, they’re really fun

>>715742482
GGs
I didn't know my assbeating was being witnessed

I LOVE GUILTY GEAR STRIVE!!! :3
I've never played it but Brisket is totes my transition goal X3

>>715739532
Skin Rip: (Hold High Kick) Back, Forward, Forward (Release High Kick). (Close)

>>715746153
ggs. it's sad how ez roog is to exguard
>I didn't know my assbeating was being witnessed
I'm not sure about that cuzhalf the time concerto spectate doesn't work

>>715743640
I'm not kidding when I say it's retard friendly.
you have chars like pic related who are pure autopilot after a few hours.

>>715738595 (OP)
No I'm not brown

inb4 remedial yolo mashing bums

you could never take round of me in act cadenza you yolo remedial masher

>>715747437
try this on my Neco Arc

>>715746168
I also main triple Bejita in Fighterz btw.

>>715747201
>>715738750
/pol/tards just HAVE to parrot this cope, don't they?
They simply cannot help themselves.

>>715748151
Keep coping brown clown

>>715748295
I'm not the one coping with the fact that I'm dumber and less skilled than my own boogeyman. You are.

going to a local casuals night and hopefully going to play some KOFXIII

I only truly like guilty gear and soul calibur.
Trad fighters like sf are too slow and dry for me while tag fighters are too chaotic. I also specifically hate tekken artstyle, the characters are dressed like my old school bullies in the early 2000s and the movement is garbage compared to sc, not even real 3d

I like Strive

>>715749153
>>715749353
die striver

>launch Strive
>get to Tower
>people refuse to play against me because I'm playing May
>some of these people play actual cancerous characters like Leo and Nago
I don't get it.

anyone for blazblue

>>715749785
for me it's caused i haven't labbed the matchup yet, after 4 years. And i find your jumping everywhere annoying

>>715749785
they are deathly afraid of being instant killed
oh wait they removed that in strive, LOL

>>715749886
>blazpoo
LMAYOOOOOOOOOOOOO
this is a strive board

>>715740619
mugen is alive, it's just that everybody's switching to IKEMEN

>>715750070
you are a tranny pedophile then

>>715749886
yea

>>715749495
>STILL seething about Season 5
lel

>>715750204
No different from the average Babbage then

>>715750898
wtf then we should be friends hello? brisket x mai uwu

>>715749785
I would rather fight Leo or Nago than May, they both have clear exploitable flaws and Nago just dies if he overextends.

May on the other hand is fucking stupid.
She has the most dumb as shit neutral where you can't ever intercept her, she can both put a wall and whiff punish anything, and she has high health and high damage to back up playing like a monkey.

Her pressure is also stupid. She's got good buttons both grounded and in the air, and she's barely minus off her pokes.
You can't contest S Dolphin, you have to RPS after it because either she backdashes and calls out your fast buttons, or presses her fucking 4f 5P and calls out your slow buttons that catch backdash. And that's not all because this bitch can just hop off Dolphin and get a throw that leads into a combo, because obviously she needs meterless mixups.

This bitch has barely got any flaws and I could rant forever about how much I hate this character.

>>715751053
can we trade? mai is hotter

>>715738595 (OP)
I still dream about the arcades, bros.
I'm 40 years old and it's been years and years.
But the dreams still come at night.
Like I'm right back there again.
I still dream about the tournaments, waiting for my name to be called.
I dream of Final Round, of Midwest Championships, of Evo.

Do you dream of fighting games, anons?

>>715738685
Xavier Woods?

>>715738685
DIO isn't from or known mostly from a fighting game so yeah he sticks out.

>>715738595 (OP)
Arcueid my beloved

>>715751594
i dream of strive matches and labbing
i'm 35 and i never set foot at an arcade in my whole life. But those were never popular here in eu

>>715751086
>obviously she needs meterless mixups.
This but unironically.

>>715751542
she will be in season 5

>>715748659
what's your team

Who was in the wrong here?

>>715752503
Main team is Saiki/rekka Kyo/claw Iori, though I mess with most of the cast (tons of cool characters and lets me handicap myself for most other local players)

>>715751709
Up until the 2012 anime brought in the legion of new fans, all of Dio's MUDA MUDA MUDA and Za Warudo voice lines were sourced from HFTF so I'd say he counts. He outdates at least 4 people in the OP.

It amuses me there's been this narrative now that KoFXIII was a "bad KoF game" as if there was ever any uniform identity to the series in the first place when it was constantly doing new things. If anything XIII was an extremely safe way to send off the sprite-based games.

>>715752554
nvm my b

>>715752624
>claw Iori
Based character, but I was an EX Iori guy just for the schnasty command grab loops. But I did main claw Iori in XII.

>>715752554
Smasher

Absa my beloved

>>715742482
Ggs

>>715749886
Maybe tomorrow if another thread comes up

https://youtu.be/qT2yan0-W-c?si=C3_ySHg1cgS2G8H2&t=255
Some exciting matches here. SNK needs to get Code Mystics on this and NGBC.

>>715754224
ggs.
vary up your air movement, you almost exclusively use IAD button

why half circles in melty dogshit are so hard its like you have 1 frame for everything fuck you kamone die

>>715754882
are you on KB/hitbox?
do them slower, you're proably dropping the down input and aacc has no leniency for half circles like modern games.

>>715754341
That's more because I keep jumping into anti airs becsuse I keep falling for it every time

>>715755162
yeah do inputs slower in this fast as fuck anime game where every milisecond counts

i play third strike but i cant really get into high level

>>715755763
just spam your build meter normal and then do yolo jump in mashing parry and then do your hit confirm

>>715755970
yeah but you see to do that i first need to actually get out of pressure but somehow they always fucking counter it in some way. even when i just yolo stuff. there's also a bunch of yun doing dive that i cant parry or block somehow and all the annoying unblockables shit like urien and oro do.

>>715745082
You want vampire savior. If you can chain into knockdown you already know your bnb for 90% of scenarios.

>>715755539
you were jumping into the battous because you were approaching from a single angle.
the hitbox counters low altitude approaches so smth like sj9 or j9>dj9 will let go right over it.

>>715755592
it sucks but sadly that's the only option.
though you rarely need to do them raw, most of the time you'll be buffering it after smth.

>>715756486
If it's that move then I can just bait it with the character I was using too on the ground because of her couch tbf

>>715749785
I've had Nagos rage endlessly because I play Gio.
I don't get it.

>>715738595 (OP)
I do, but they've fallen off a cliff since almost everyone started falling in line behind Capcom's business model. DB FighterZ was the last fighter I bought before realizing I'm straight up just wasting money if I buy-in before Season 2 or Season 3. People will try to say you have a competitive edge by getting in early, but now that these games get big patches twice per Season, the stuff you're learning in Season 0 might not even be in the game anymore by the time Season 3 rolls around.

I think fighting games have quietly entered the same niche as mobile games where a small but dedicated group of enthusiast whales are propping up the hold genre. Left 4 Dead 2 still has a higher daily concurrent than any fighting game on Earth.

>>715757745
>propping up the whole** genre

>>715738595 (OP)
no, I just like girls that look like Mika Tan

>>715757745
Nah it's the opposite
A small group of dedicated players is reliant on the continued interest of hordes of casuals that buy all the DLC and shit to fund continued development, if only the people that actually actively play the game long term bought shit they all go bankrupt

>>715757745
>People will try to say you have a competitive edge by getting in early
People only say that because they suck and wind up having to drop out when competition gets too stiff, meaning they wouldn't even stand a chance by the time the game is more widely learned and they'd have wasted money if they didn't adopt early.

>>715757745
>but now that these games get big patches twice per Season, the stuff you're learning in Season 0 might not even be in the game anymore by the time Season 3 rolls around.
shit that never happens

>>715756837
I was reacting to your jumps.
Staying on the ground is generally bad in this MU cuz FLen doesn't have the speed or range to challenge Koha buttons beyond 5B range.

I only play Tekken. Too bad they decided completely remove all identifying traits of what makes Tekken great from 8. I can only pray that some autists out there are working on T5 DR rollback.

>>715738595 (OP)
I liked them when i was a kid, but they are as good as the people you play them with. Like all Multiplayer games..

Anyone play that Bleach game?

>>715738685
Dio isn't a natural born vampire?

>>715758023
DB FighterZ is a signficantly different game today than it was at launch. Tekken 8 changed so much in Season 2 it nearly killed the game.

>>715757894
I disagree. The only franchise that definitely happens for is Mortal Kombat.

which fighting games have chinese girl that goes hatchu haia ching chong

>>715758940
Jam from Guilty Gear

cotw 20 bucks when

>>715758940
Real Bout Fatal Fury 2

>>715738595 (OP)
I like 3s. Unfortunately I can't seem to get into any other fighting game, not sure why.

>>715757745
>DB FighterZ was the last fighter I bought before realizing I'm straight up just wasting money if I buy-in before Season 2 or Season 3.

that's what i did with sf5.
I would much rather wait 4 to 5 years to buy the game at a heavy discount with everything and have a few good months enjoying it

POI

>like fighting games
>socially awkward
>can't go out of my way to interact in public
>small friend group to play fighters dislike going against me because I'm too good for casuals

It's a hard life.

>>715761224
she has black boyfriend

>>715761562
Bridget is not black.

>>715754882
this is half of why i got a stick, half circles on kb/box are miserable on melty and some other old games
other half is that stick just feels nicer to me

>>715738595 (OP)
enough to make a porn fan game based on a dead franchise

fgo fighting game when

>>715762432
MR PEDO NO

>>715761032
I understand. SFV was the second-to-last for me. DB FighterZ finally made me lay ground rules so I wouldn't get had again. Cause by Season 3, SFV was becoming pretty solid. I just regret buying at launch so it could sit in my library collecting dust for two and a half years before it became worthwhile.

>>715761796
You mean Johnny

>>715762432
>>715762643
Ragna Za Rorico-ecchi indeed.

>>715761380
This is actually why I keep campaigning for more co-op fighting game experiences, like the Raid Mode from DB FighterZ. It can be rough to get friends into a lobby because someone's always the best and someone's always the punching bag–but in a co-op environment, everybody succeeds or fails together. That's a much easier sell. I'm very optimistic about our odds of getting something like that with Marvel Tōkon.

>>715762474
Boudica would be the most boring fucking pick. Bitch does absolutely nothing cool for over 10 years.

>>715761942
Its because you can't do the usual input skips on a lot of older games. I recently got a leverless and I've been testing a bunch of different games and its remarkable how even "easy" old games like Project Justice do not like it much.

>>715762893
I mean, that would be ideal but Johnny wants to keep LARPing as some kind of parental figure despite being clearly ill suited for that.

>>715763897
this is surprisingly agreeable

>>715764431
TL is so fucking shit man. Just made it UNI but worse.

>>715764450
Uni itself was melty but worse

>>715738595 (OP)
No.

I legit do not see the point of fighting games. You buy a fighting game you don't know squat. You select the character that you most likely will like. The story will be lackluster shoddy shit since most fighting games have horrible stories mostly because you don't know who is the true main character who fights the main villain. And once you do the arcade mode which you can beat in less than an hour you are left with nothing else to do. Who wants to pay full price for this scam? Fighting games are a bigger rip off than railshooters. At least a railshooter campaign can last longer than an hour. And don't get me started on the scams like DLC and microtransactions for character outfits Dead or Alive is the worst offender.

I would but every Street Fighter game since IV has gotten uglier and uglier.

SFIV ain't pretty but at least it had art direction.

>>715764606
b8 works best when you post believably retarded opinions
This is just way too retarded even by /v/ fighting game thread standards, please slow down a bit.

>>715764765
With the exception of like... 3, maybe 4 characters, every single character that is both in SFIV and SFV looks significantly better in SFV. Literally straight upgrade.
SF6 is horrendously fucking ugly though, no arguments there.

>>715754204
Passer

>>715764450
Sadly yeah, i knew it wasn't going to live up to Actress Again when i saw how they got rid of moon styles and half the cast getting locked due to lore reasons.
It's alright for what it is,especially now since they patched a few things, but i'm huffing copium hoping they can overhaul it once Red Garden drops

>>715764774
Lets be realistic you buy a fighting game you will probably only like a minority of the roster. You clear their stories and arcade modes and then what? You are left with a game where you don't give a damn about most of the characters and you will not feel compelled to play as them. Sounds like a scam.

Now that the first of many came out, how's everyone feeling about the tagslop era so far?

>>715765040
NTA but you play the game with other people, which is what people have been doing since SF2 hit arcades in 1991

>>715765335
Waiting for Tokon just like everyone else

>>715765335
Same as before; with the information I had then and the information I have now, I am looking forward to Tokon and nothing else.
Tokon could still turn out to be bad of course, but what I mean is that unfortunately I never had any hope in the HxH game, and I don't have any hope for any of the others either.

>>715765335
Tag era doesn't begin till Tōkon comes out. Nobody cares about Null Impact or League FighterZ.

>>715765020
I just think its more likely they do an babby mode FGO fighter at this point than going back to Melty Blood.

>>715762474
I would be happier if they made a better musou.

>>715764450
I don't play melty but the combo videos were cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8zf54-fxYQ

Yeah but only single player

>>715765704
I do miss this style of combo mv. Got me into Janna da arc 15 years ago.

>>715765020
>Half the cast
Really, who else is truly missing than Nero, Satsuki, Sion, Wara, Len, and Ries? Don't fucking tell me people actually want the weird picks like Neco Arc Chaos and Robo Hisui shit back.

>>715765973
>who else is truly missing
On top of the ones you mentioned: White Len,Nanaya,Archetype Earth,Ryougi(She fits better than the servants),VSion, Vahika,SHIKI

Remake additions would likely include Saiki Gotou,Saiki Mio,Dr.Arach etc

>>715765973
Robo Hisui was cool, and Nanaya isn't actually in the game despite the install meme, and not having Scion is actually two characters because of normal and V scion, same with Len and White Len. Also you forgot Ryougi and Hime.

>>715766553
Is Len's existence even confirmed in the remake continuity?

>>715760443
>No Booki gf
Pain

>>715765335
i'm not getting baited
buying tokon day one though

If tokon is f2p it will heem every other fighter

>>715766695
In the vn itself no,but she got teased in Lumina

>>715765823
I wonder what newgen people think of combo videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYoURaBr-M0

Which fighting game has white women

>>715767882
Melty Blood has two french women

>>715766713
A man can dream

>>715766695
I'm not reading the remake until I hear Len is in it. If she's not I won't acknowledge it as worth reading. I feel like the reason she wasn't already in it might be because Nasu has a role in mind for her, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

>>715768409
Why would Len be in a remake of the Far Side routes when she wasn't in them to begin with?

>>715768546
Because I don't expect them to do a whole Kagetsu Tohya remake

>>715768605
Neither do I, but if Len is going to appear in the remake at all I would assume she'd be in some bonus story you unlock after the main routes like Mahoyo

>>715768605
Satsuki and the other Tohno Branch characters, plus Arcueid being absent for Far Side will probably take up more of Red Garden to even consider Len.
A pure love story like the Tsuki Re continuity doesn't need some impure succubus side-piece like Len.

>>715768861
Giving her anything short of her own route would make the whole vn bad.
>>715768998
Len's romantic scenes are the best, she's the best heroine in the Tsukihime universe, and Kagetsu Tohya was even better than Tsukihime because of her. Not having her at all would make Tsukire look weak and afraid of offending anyone, which is the opposite of the appeal of Tsukihime and Kagetsu Tohya.

I like platform fighters

>>715738595 (OP)
Why is donkey Kong chimping out

>>715769223
I doubt she'll make it in

>>715738685
that's DIO and not Dio
Dio would fit better then DIO

>>715769516
>tranny gear
pft

>>715769617
I'm not sure which way to lean, from a writing standpoint a route in far side isn't too hard to imagine, but the remake is all about being safe so a loli route might not happen. It's impossible to write something as good as Tsukihime and Kagetsu Tohya in the modern day anyway, so I'm not too hurt if she doesn't get into it as I'll just not read it, but it would still be nice to see her in it and it'd make it worth reading. Len's still more popular than any of the new characters in the remake.

>>715765335
The tag era doesn't begin until tokon though. Plus anyone with a brain knew that hxh was gonna be a failure since the last game 8ing made was dnf duel and that one only had good netcode and looks because of arcsys

>>715770007
The remake heroines don't really matter, they're not actually heroines. It's still the same five and then Satsuki who graduated from the hobo lesbos.

>>715770007
>Len's still more popular than any of the new characters in the remake.
Is that even a fair comparison when the remake characters have been around for like,what,3 years at most?

>>715770130
Len is also more popular than Satsuki. Just to put into perspective that Len is incredibly well liked. Infinitely more popular than the new character some say "replaced" her.
>>715770349
Len has gotten more art regularly than any remake character, even if you don't go further back than tsukire's release date.

>>715770481
Nobody replaced Len. Nobody else fills the niche of giving Shiki a wet dream, and nobody honestly has to kek

>>715769516
UNI not in last place again thanks to MK

that's OD

>>715770563
They say there's another cat shapeshifting girl. I literally can't remember or find her name from a quick google search because Len comes up instead if that helps.

>>715770481
Satsuki is barely a character,so i'm not sure that means something aside of saying Len is better than nothing

>>715770668
Saiki Mio
She has like one scene where she says hi and goes back to sleep or something.

>>715770709
Barely a character but the one girl people memed about wanting a route for for years.

>>715770768
Yes, that's her. I don't expect her to ever be as popular as Len even if she gets a route or large role in far side. It would be a failing by Nasu to not include Len in tsukire.

>>715770481
>Character that has been around for 24 years gets more frequent fanart than characters that have been around for 3 years
No way

>>715738595 (OP)
no bit ilke capcom

>>715771054
You sound really annoying so I hope Len doesn't come back.

Morrigan

>>715738595 (OP)
I am waiting for Tokon.

>>715771142
You would think tsukire would give the new characters more of a surge in fanart than an old character who hasn't appeared.
>>715771293
Didn't mean I would dislike her. But if she's supposed to be a replacement for Len it wouldn't work as well.

>>715771440
She's obviously not going to be a replacement.

>>715771440
>new characters more of a surge in fanart
Aside from Noel, hardly any of the new characters are even relevant. All of the Gotous make cursory appearances. Arach's true deal isn't even explored in the Near Side. You have a hilarious perception for a VN you haven't bothered to read which is par for the course I suppose. Only so many things you could possibly guess right.

>>715771779
If she has a cat form, or tiger I think it was, it could be an intentional reference. I doubt she's actually a replacement but I've seen her called one as an argument for Len not being in the remake universe. I worded it too harshly, I like her design too.
>>715771838
I figured Arach and Noel have big roles already, maybe I was wrong. Still worth mentioning Len gets more regular art than them.

>>715738685
Niggers are world champs. Don't like it? Get good.

>>715771341
Impressive
Very nice
Now, consider Lilith

I maybe the only one here, but I still enjoy Tekken 8.

How do you personally pronounce "Arcueid"?

>>715775814
I say “Ark-you-id”.

>>715775814
Aru
Ku
Ay
Do

>>715775894
+2

>>715775814
Arr-khayde.

I went to the wiki AACC and theres was nothing good written about the character i want to take a shoot..

>>715738685
Yeah, Kazuya is from a 3D game what's he doing there?

>>715775814
DJ Khalid?

>>715738685
Hey just because Slayer is married it doesn't mean he can't hang out.

>>715738685
Arcueid, since she's the only person in that room with a pulse?

>>715778146
I admit, you got me

>>715769516
Why isn't Rivals of Aether 2 a mainstage game?

>>715769516
Meltybros...

>>715758106
I dunno, baiting with fast fireball can cover some movement, even if it's weak as shit

>>715765973
Shiki ryougi, even her half moon blade catch being inherited in some tsuki:re character would suffice.

>>715769516
lmao leddit is seething because they all think no one wants to show up out of fear of getting thrown into a van by ICE.

>>715779120
DISCORD EMERGENCY MEETING NOW

I love this cute brick shithouse 14 year old and want to adopt her

>>715738595 (OP)
they look like nortubel characters

ive never really understood the appeal, though i may just be misinformed. it boils down to memorizing combos and knowing matchups, no? it's akin to pokemon but with more steps. memorize the type chart and use things that are strong. both games are fun casually but i cant understand going further than that.

>>715784504
You could simplify the definition of any game or competitive thing like that, combos are one of the less important things to work on. You don't switch characters for matchups generally.

>>715784504
Sort of?
You are leaving out the entire aspect of reaction time, mind games and adjusting mid match to condition your opponents, but you yourself said you might be just misinformed so at least you are aware of that.
I think there is a sweet spot with fighting games, a point where you are not just casually mashing and you are actually trying to learn the game, but still not deep enough where you go full tryhard and tier-whore.

>>715784976
word. the (few) fighting game players i know tend to change their character based on their opponent - they usually have 2+ characters they consider their "main". it could also be game-specific, though.
>>715785028
hadn't really considered the reaction time aspect of it. good point

WHEN I SAY BUM

>>715775814
I call her archdruid

>>715785170
>the (few) fighting game players i know tend to change their character based on their opponent
Usually that’s only done if your true main has an extremely unfavorable matchup that you have to get out of, and even then that’s pretty rare.
It also isn’t just reaction speed. It’s the strategic element of play. Pic related is a decent little visualization of basic fighting game fundamentals. There aren’t really hard counters baked into character move sets or combos (combos are a reward, not a winning strategy), at least not usually. The hard counters are in style of play for each individual player, and you can change your style on the fly in a match. Now certain characters will favor different styles over others, but it’s rare for a character to not be able to play at least two of these styles well and many can play all three.

>>715784504
>memorizing combos
I'll go easy on you since you said yourself you are misinformed
This is the number one thing casuals think fighting games are about when it is not. Combos are simply muscle memory you get as a reward for landing a hit, the actual hard part. Imagine if you hit super effective in pokemon and get like 50 damage BUT you can get 70 damage if you input xyz. But in a tournament landing that weakness is the hard part in the first place when you consider mind games, statuses, etc
same thing with fighting games, the exciting part playing is the "I know you know that I know" part, combos are just the frosting on top

>>715765973
mech hisui has a lot of cool shit
>jetpacks
>pillar setplay
>neco projectile
>whip loops

>>715775814
Arcade

>>715786420
>sol
>neutral triangle
you know damn well what's gonna happen

>>715777180
melty wiki had funnies instances of downplaying i ever saw like putting in negatives for nero that he is "tall" and has "poor abare" or negatives for pciel are that you can reduce her combo dmg or c koha is weak because you can ex guard her pressure

>>715790739
>pros
best everything
>cons
you might lose if they beat you

>>715777180
Necos are joke characters bro

>>715790739
Nero's abare is bad.
What makes him so stupid on defense is that one correct guess leads into the second most miserable snowballing of the game. and he can afford to gamble thanks to his health

I block opponents moves they are minus I throw fireball

ATTENTION!
July 20th is Cassandra's birthday and I'm going to host an all-day SoulCalibur VI lobby starting from 9 A.M. CEST.

>>715794384
Damn you really like SC.

fighting games are rock-paper-scissors for people who are too stupid to realize they're playing rock-paper-scissors

>>715767789
kino
https://youtu.be/-s6GbYRsfJ0
https://youtu.be/2uMKm8OHalE

>>715794384
But i dont have SC2/6, and neither a controller

>>715794904
what if i pull out a gun

>>715792796
*slime impacts you through your fireball*

>>715794904
Yeah they’re pretty much chess

>>715738595 (OP)
>>715738685
I don't recognize anyone in the foreground.

>>715803832
remember to book a prostate exam, gotta watch out for your health now that you're getting old

>>715738685
Is it the violent shouting loudly one

>>715775814
are-coo-ayy-ed

>>715803973
Yeah I just got my colonoscopy, no fun
Now who's in the front row? What games are they from?

>>715804350
Rachel from BB, Arc from Melty (or Tsukihime) and Niggo from Str*ve

>>715775814
Arcade.

>>715794384
based birthday celebrator

>>715794904
i think this is true of bad fighting games, but not good ones that are well executed.

>no horse fighting game
dead genre

>>715804515
Thanks Anon. Never realized Yasuke was in Guilty Gear now.

>>715803832
Dio the vampire nigga from JoJo's, Dimitri the vampire nigga from Darkstalkers, Slayer (i think?) from Guilty Gear, Rachel Alucard the vampire nigga from Blazblue, Arcueid the vampire nigga from Melty Blood, and Niggoriyuki from Strive. if Slayer and Niggoriyuki are vampires, it's news to me.

>>715807049
They are vampires.

>>715807049
>if Slayer and Niggoriyuki are vampires, it's news to me.
did you skip the intro where slayer bites his bitch neck and drinks her blood in every game he is in and miss the part where niggoriyuki uses blood in all of his specials

>>715738685
I think Nagoriyuki should stay. They're all going to get the brick anyway.

>>715807296
>uses blood in all of his specials
NTA but plenty of characters in vidya use blood magic

I'm honestly not sure. It seems that the things people love in fighting games, I dislike.

Not a fan of long and/or high damage combos or extensive block strings. And I enjoy decent defensive mechanics.

>>715807903
Just play Vsav

>>715807903
just play sf4

>>715807049
>>715807296
they also both have a command grab with the same name where they bite their opponent

You guys are practicing slashbacking right, it's one of +R's mechanics that make the airtight and unbeatable pressure beatable

>>715808367
I don't really grind shit like that out in the lab, ever. I just play the game and try it in matches until I start getting it. But yes I try to use SB, not always succesfully.

>>715807049
That you too Anon. I'm pretty sure Slayer is a vampire, but I'm not a huge GG guy. I thought Bridget and Testament were dudes but I turned out to be wrong about that.

>>715808472
I know at least one character that requires it. Eddie when his summon does that saw move. It's either that or backdash, either option is shitty honestly

>>715808641
Bridget is a dude, not sure about Testament.

>>715807049
>>715738685
Actually it might be Rachel that doesn't belong. She fights like a witch, she never does anything really vampiric in gameplay.

>>715808367
>>715808702
oldfags wonder why their old anime games are dead and it turns out you gotta lab every single interaction in the game lmao

>>715809259
she sucks fluids out of my cock doe

>>715738595 (OP)
>do you like fighting games?
no i prefer shooters

>>715809259
She summons bats and has an umbrella that she attacks with

>>715775814
Arcueid backwards spells "Dracula".

>>715808367
>You guys are practicing slashbacking right
No, but i just got the gist of how to do basic 214A stuff
i play R+ too but i always end up confusing myself which essential combos i should learn first

>>715810548
Doeicra?

>>715738685
It’s Nago because Strive is not Guilty Gear

>>715810548
Anon...

>>715782620
Why and how is she shooting lightning from her pussy?

>>715811165
Now I want a Hellsing fighting game.

>>715809287
Conveniently leaving out the reply about not doing that.

>>715810868
On pretty much every character your important starter bnb just needs to lead to a hard knockdown (like 2D). As long as you're not giving up your turn after getting a hit, you're playing the game properly. Don't need to worry about anything more complicated than that until later.

>>715812128
>As long as you're not giving up your turn after getting a hit, you're playing the game properly. Don't need to worry about anything more complicated than that until later.
Youre saying, i can start off with a bnb + anti-air combo and im ready to go?

>>715810868
>bnb that works from any starter
>anti-air combo
>blockstring that allows for some sort of mixup or frametrap
>throw combo if your character can combo off it without using meter
Don't spend too much time practicing since you're never gonna be able to put yourself in a position to use any of them

>>715813195
Yes, a HKD into some oki. And some kind of pressure sequence with a mixup hopefully. How that exactly looks depends on who you're playing. Then you just play matches until you're comfortable piloting your character. That's when you can start adding more stuff.

>>715811541
I want an all-Dracula fighting game.
There's so many different and varied version of him the biggest difficulty would be who not to include.

>>715794384
>Share a birthday with Cassandra
Huh, used to play SC from 2 through 4, surprised I never knew this.

>>715810868
naoto is character for white timmies with the smallest of peckers

>>715816068
But Dustloop told me that he is officially endorsed by the Wu-Tang Clan.

>>715806787
Them's Fightin' Herds is a horse fighting game.

ICE agents, send this guy >>715816068 back to brazil

>>715807296
I don't play Guilty Gear because I don't like the aesthetic, so I'm unfamiliar with its characters.

>>715816910
fuck you gringo i cant attend evo because of you now

>>715816489
wu tang is for white people

>>715807903
you sound like you would enjoy Third Strike and the newest Sam Sho, but that's about it. they don't really make simple Super Turbo clones anymore.

>>715738595 (OP)
I used to, but I got tired of spending so much time watching tutorials and training comboes, it kind of ruined the fun for me and I didn't have a strong enough mentaru for ranked.

>>715739453
By playing actual good fighting games (Mortal Kombat for example)

>>715817180
>(Mortal Kombat for example)

>>715814710
My own birthday is exactly one month before hers.

>>715817150
i'm ready for some good ass Granblue, bros.

>>715817150
>EVO already
Damn

>>715817306
granblue is just ass

>MvC2 top 8
I hope it leads to an announcement this time. Even UMvC3 rollback or a Infinite makeover would get me bricked up. I just want to know if the Dan Southworth thing was for a DMC3 remake or a VS. game.

>>715809287
Weird, +R is one of the oldest games that’s not dead. Everyone playing it must’ve not heard you didn’t like it.

>>715817797
was yipes a good mvcer or was he another hoodnigger using fighting games as a platform to bully anime players

>>715818358
>was yipes a good mvcer
he was
>another hoodnigger using fighting games as a platform to bully anime players
probably in the 2000's but i see nothing wrong with bullying anime players.

>>715818358
>newshitter
Yipes was EVO champ and one of the strongest magnetos around in MVC2. He ended Jwong's two year undefeated reign on the game.

I only like strive. No i'm not trans but you can suck my cock anyway :3

>>715821056
we are the new 09ers, we are here to stay, we are loud and arc listen to our voices, get used to it

>>715821342
Heck yeah sister! Wave that flag!

>>715821342
You should kill yourself

>>715822469
>still buckbroken about Season 5
lmao

>>715822660
Kill yourself.

>>715822660
I don't play your dogshit game
kill yourself

i cast revive on all strivers

>>715822789
>>715822814
mad cuz bad

>>715817052
>>715808048
>>715808340

Well, the fighting games I've played in order are.
SF4, DBFighterz, Thems Fighting Herds, Granblue Fantasy Versus, Guilty Gear Strive, Pokken Tournament, SF6

The ones I enjoyed the most were SF4 and Pokken.

>>715761380
>likes fighting game
>normie
>local is filled with smelly retards and grease all over the place.
>act as a final boss and my casual friends challenge me daily to see me defeated.

Wholesome life

still trying to learn kof for whatever reason
idk why im so fixated on learning this series

>>715823703
>idk why im so fixated on learning this series
undiagnosed autism or beaner DNA (same thing)

nen impact won

2xko won

>>715738595 (OP)
Yeah, im hosting a local today

>>715828263
what games

>>715823180
I haven’t played Pokken given your stated tastes it’s not surprising you prefer SF4. Granblue used to be very defensive focused but Rising made it much more offensive. Guilty Gear Strive (and GG in general) actually have extremely powerful defensive tools but that’s out of necessity because offensive tools are insane in those games, and SF6 is the most offensive SF game ever made.
Honestly I agree with that one anon that recommended Third Strike and Samurai Shodown.
The secret third option is Project Justice. That game might be pretty bs and have infinite block strings but tardy counters make it still heavily favor defensive play

>>715823512
the dream

>>715828764
Smash ultimate, blazblue central fiction, +r

The lineup is a compromise, since im cohosting the tournament. If i had full control the line up would look a bit different, but i have fun

I've started playing uni2 with mika and I cant get around the timing for cancels and inputs
I guess it'll all eventually fall into place after I'm done with the story mode

>>715823180
Play sf3 on fightcade

>>715830545
The buffer window is pretty generous, it'll click before long.

>>715775814
Arc-ooh-aid

>>715830545
just mash bro french bread games are party mashers

Sex with Arcueid

>>715833979
But if I mash it fucking autocombos

>>715745082
>anime game movement
Last game with any kind of movement options was fucking Melty Blood Poomina and even that game had it neutered from old game. Movement in fighting games is dead anon even "anime" fighters have(if they even got one) airdashes with 100 frames of startup and recovery and theres always universal braindead antiair counter anyone can mash out like baboon lol.

>>715834150
okay and? are you playing in evo that you need to do best combos and confirms???

>>715834839
No, but I like using my own combos that use the moves I like the most and that put me in a situation/distance I like

Sex with dragons

>>715775814
Asscueid

>>715834839
Everybody else will be doing real combos so you’re not getting far with autocombos

>>715823703
which one

friday night and theres no lobbies

>>715808641
>>715809076
Bridget is a dude raised as a girl (I'm not sure what that entails exactly outside the dress) due to a superstitious custom but I guess in Strive he says he would like to be referred to with "she". I don't know what happens with Bridget in the story in Strive but I guess he thinks he would have to become something different if he were referred to as a man and finds the thought scary.

Testament was a man, Kliff's adoptive son, and was snatched from the battlefield and made into a gear. Gears are basically magic cyborgs so they can be whatever and would therefore also be to satisfy whatever standard one has for a woman.

>>715738685
yeah, you

>>715809259

she does in entropy effect so she belongs

>>715809259
She drank Ragna's blood to save his life,albeit that isn't shown in gameplay either but still

>>715838070
The idea at play is that Bridget goes, "I'm going to be myself, and if that means someone sees me as a girl, that's completely fine." The scene was referencing a group of cross-dressers in Japan who, when in their persona, will outright say "I am a girl" when asked, but they don't actually consider themselves to be girls. This is why in official stuff, Bridget is still referred to as a guy.

>>715838070
The Bridget we see in Strive isn't the same from XX. But the GG community isn't ready for that information.

>>715808367
no, the timing is too tight. parries in third strike are way easier than that shit

Hate Murray
Hate Harada
Hate Tekken 8
Luv Lili and Asuka
Simple as

>>715817475
It's the only current gen fighter I give a fuck about. I can't help it.

>>715837647
im having sex tonight sorry

>>715838471
>This is why in official stuff, Bridget is still referred to as a guy
But they straight up call bridget a girl multiple times in the canon anime too.

>>715840284
Same desu
I occasionally mess around in Strive because I like May but Granblue takes up the absolute majority of my fighting game time these days.

>>715738595 (OP)
LET'S BRING IT
POWER OF THE NOVA FORCE

>>715841037
>>715840284
die grubblers

>>715738595 (OP)
>>715738685
>>715738697
>>715738731
>>715738750
>>715738823
>>715738892

someone vocaroo this song now!

>>715841873
hmm...
Let me consider that...
...nyo

>>715840908
The one that came out in 2025? I haven't watched it, but I'd think that's a case of characters mistaking him for a girl.

>>715841037
Based Narmaya appreciator. I can't get into Strive because of the aesthetics, but every now and then I consider buying it to try paired with the UI overhaul mod. I like supporting ArcSys products because their art direction is a breath of fresh air in a genre dominated by games that just seem to wanna look like Mortal Kombat.

>>715839065
go beyond your limits anon, anything is possible

>>715842164
>i like acrsys because of its unique art direction
>i dislike strive because of its aesthetics
smartest grubbler

>>715842737
Strive has a lot of obnoxious visual elements that Granblue doesn't. Like the giant combo counter vibrating in the background, and the ugly ass wall break animation that's completely devoid of the type of pace and smoothness that the stage transitions had in DB FighterZ.

Also, I just like Granblue character designs more than Guilty Gear's.

>>715842164
Narmaya is very fun. U Flip is fraudulent as fuck and I do feel a bit dirty when I avoid an anti-air doing it, but I still think she's relatively low on the cancer scale as a whole so I don't get too hung up on that.

I used to play a lot of fighting games. SF, Tekken, DOA, MvC, Granblue fighting, DBZ fighter
Then I suddenly got bored of them one day and I still haven't bought SF6, Tekken 8 or any new fighter

>>715842164
>I can't get into Strive because of the aesthetics
>I like supporting ArcSys products because [of] their art direction
Isnt that a contradriction?
>[its] a breath of fresh air in a genre dominated by games that just seem to wanna look like Mortal Kombat
Huhhh? I guess sf6 has kind of a modern nrs look but i cant think of any other company doing that

>>715738595 (OP)
nope. imagine spending countless hours in practice mode to get good instead of just playing the game to get good like in every other game

What's a fighting game that's good to play on keyboard? I'll play that with someone right now.

>>715843467
third strike is way easier on keyboard and makes parries a breeze

>>715843467
every one

>>715843171
I'm doing that right now and its pretty fun, it's like figuring out a puzzle

>>715843467
>short answer
all of them
>long answer
modern games that have input shortcuts. They were initially designed to make the games a little more playable on pad but made leverless/keyboard controllers almost feel broken.

>>715843089
see
>>715842851

And I just don't like the direction Street Fighter and Tekken have moved in, which I feel is toward what Mortal Kombat does. If you put me like 7-9 feet away from a TV playing one of those three games, I wouldn't be able to tell which it was till I saw Drive particles, Rage particles, or Gore particles.

>>715843171
Mario Kart World niggas are seething at this post.

>>715843171
>just playing the game to get good like in every other game
you do this in fighting games

>>715843171
You parrot this same shitty, stale bait every time these threads come up.
How are you not tired of this?

>>715844370
I have never seen a single example of one of those stupid hitbox advertising clip shortcuts mattering in a game, you fell for marketing
leverless controllers do two things that are objective advantages, one is just being a tiny bit faster, not having to move your hand through space to do things like start charging again after a sonic boom or reaction parry or 6P etc, it's a tiny difference but it will actually have an affect in some small percentage of games
the other is making just frame inputs like PEWGF easy, since you just have to hit two buttons at the same time rather than get a lever to actuate, but those are something good players do consistently anyway and who cares about Tekken

Only offline but no one is near me or worth my time to go out to play with so I do not waste my time playing them. Netplay is gay and bad

>>715843171
How is practice mode not playing a video game

>>715844370
>>715843663
>>715843591
nvm my D drive blipped out of existence after restarting my computer and now i don't want to play anything anymore

>>715844813
>dude, playing Call of Duty with a Chronus is totally legit. all it does is help you aim a tiny bit faster.

>>715844813
The reason I mentioned shortcuts is because of how easy it makes leverless inputs. Old games without these shortcuts tend to be noticeably more difficult on a leverless controller than on an arcade stick. The opposite is true for modern games with them.

>>715846201
NOOO CAPCOM GAMES ARE BETTER THAN STINKY ANIME PLAYERS AHHH WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE BEST

>>715846201
>>715846608
You are not prepared for the fucking horde of elder millennials that are going to shit on Tokon once they realize it plays nothing like MvC2.

>>715846334
this but unironically

>>715738595 (OP)
I miss this little nigga like you wouldn't believe.

>>715846725
pretty sure there are enough dbfighterz nigs who will not care

also what is a horde of fighting game players? 15 people?

>>715844813
They matter most for charge characters and old game stuff like Chipp wallcling where being able to go straight from one direction to another helps. But you also can do DPs faster and some other things. For me it's just more comfortable.

>>715846725
>elder millennial
i care about the opinions of honorary boomers? what am i, a Maximillian Dood viewer? lol

and what makes you think it won't be when DB FighterZ was just better MvC 3?

bbtag mogs all marvel games

>>715846876
>DB FighterZ was just better MvC 3?
You people are a joke

>>715839065
I always assumed third strike parries were 1-3F. Looked it up and it’s 6-10F, interesting.

>>715846774
Sometimes i forget he's suppose to be the main character of Darkstalkers

>press down right punch to do fireball
>the move doesnt come out because you didnt do the motion in ultra specific rythm the game expects you to do
shit genre

>>715847172
Do people actually struggle with quarter circles

>>715847110
It's ok, everyone does.

>>715847274
Try doing them on right side and on keyboard

>>715847172
Play a charge character

>>715847394
I have. They should be easy unless you have ghosting on your keyboard.

>>715847529
NTA but I do find 214214 quite irritating to do on my leverless, especially in older games. My ring finger does not like the motion

Is Persona 4 Arena Ultimax good? It's on sale on steam.

>>715846876
Mvc1 > mvc2 > umvc3 > skull girls > dbfz >>>> marvel sloppon

>>715847721
Its ok, if you think it looks cool give it a shot.

>>715847274
I always have because I want to use them not from neutral. A smooth uninterrupted movement from 12 straight across to 7 then circled ccw to 2 should count exactly the same as neutral straight down to 6 then circle to 3. I covered the quarter circle, count it.

>>715846725
I am fully expecting retards to be like "UHH THIS ISN'T LIKE MVC3" despite tokon clearly being made by a different developer

>>715741671
>It frustrates me when I lose to people who aren't that good.
Amen. You just know when they win a match they sit back in their chair with a shit eating grin, thinking they're so good when they play like shit with easy characters

>>715847110
I remember seeing that Morrigan was always supposed to be the protagonist but they needed him at the front for marketing sake but I may be wrong.

>>715847721
yes, it's what arc should have based their easy games off of if the wider community had noticed them earlier. Alas, they made fighterz and covid after its time had already passed

>only justin wong said nen inpact is good
My fuarking hero...

>>715848434
>Justin Wong
That's not a good endorsement...

>>715847098
alright Zero May Cry Dark Phoenix Level 3 X-Factor boy, whatever you say.

>>715847747
don't forget to pick up your social security check this weekend, Gramps.

It's kind of hard to tell what Tokon will play like but I didn't play DBFZ. I know that DBFZ has the thing where heavy attacks send the opponent flying and Tokon definitely has that if you look at the footage closely. There's also regular launchers and super launchers but I don't know what would differentiate between them in Fighterz.
One other thing that's interesting is that there appears to be a difference between whether you call an assist in the air or on the ground since we see a Cap shield toss assist both on the ground and in the air. It could just be a character-specific thing though.

>>715848434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBsEi9ZEo7s
This video made me laugh my ass off, especially the Punk and Leffen parts.

>>715846201
>>715846608
凸 don't care we're still getting something new out of MvC 凸

>>715847721
It's fine but the PC port isn't. Huge amount of input lag.

>>715849786
>he actually believes this
You must've missed the part of the reveal trailer where they said Marvel execs told ArcSys they're the only studio they trust to make a Marvel fighting game. At BEST you'll get some Capcom All-Stars character costumes in a SF6 Avatar Slop Pass.

Let's do a thought experiment. If half the revenue coming outta SF6 is Avatar and advertisement related, how would a new MvC game contribute to that without cannibalizing the daily player metrics Capcom are shopping around to secure collab deals and Battle Hub ad campaigns? Keeping in mind SF6 already has a lower daily peak than Left 4 Dead 2.

>>715849786
Why the FUCK would you want the same people who shat out Dix to make a new Marvel vs Capcom?
Capcom is dead. Gone. Whatever you want out of a new MvC can not, will not be made today.
It's time to accept it.

WHERE IS HIS TOKON TRAILER!!!!! THEY BETTER NOT MAKE HIM A GRAPPLER!!

>>715850249
>he doesn't want to see The Hulk pull out a sick HULK BUSTER
Lame

>>715850307
Hulk is a PUNCH CHAD!!

>>715850371
He can do both.
He can punch the SHIT out of people and then follow it up with a command grab in which he flails around his opponent like a ragdoll.

>>715850038
>You must've missed the part of the reveal trailer where they said Marvel execs told ArcSys they're the only studio they trust to make a Marvel fighting game
Yeah I missed it because they never said that.
>muh SF6
nigga who cares that's like saying ArcSys should give a fuck about Tokon cutting into Strive revenue because it has 3v3 mode. SF6 and MvC are not the same subgenre of fightan. They can coexist like always.

>>715850452
Nah, give him PUNCH specials.

>>715850371
Good thing marvel will be japanafied and arc will make the moveset more interesting than >this guy can punch hard and is strong

>>715848328
That makes sense honestly,Morrigan fits more as the protagonist due to her only wanting to have fun. Dimitri is more of a antagonist if anything with the stuff he does in the endings

>>715850501
Half of Strive's revenue isn't coming from Avatar Slop and Battle Hub ads for fast food... you completely missed the point...

Pretty mych everything here after the minute mark is Marvel sucking ArcSys off and subliminally dissing Capcom.
https://youtu.be/ffH_vJkE13w?si=IV_jGu2txrrQYyDL

>>715740948
>Bridget shitshow

That entire fiasco is going to get worse in the coming years. This is how its going to go down...

Bridget is written to commit suicide like many trannies which pisses off the freaks. If not that then Bridget will go back to realizing he's a dude and drop the whole girl persona bullshit. This will piss off the freaks even more.

We haven't seen the end of this scandal. If anything its merely just begun. And another thing the developer could do to piss off the freakshows is pull a Ranma meaning Bridget finds a way to fully physically become a chick with a functioning vaginal canal and everything. This would make the freaks angry because it reminds them that their delusions can't truly happen in reality.

alright kof is killing my dpad thumb
back to stick and worse inputs

>>715851132
>Tokon also has Playstation money behind it
I expect a big roster.

>>715838508
That explains why the older design looks more like a dude.

>>715847103
actually is more like 5 to 10f
>forward and down parry are both 2 different instance of 10 f, so you can do one after another no problem
>parries in the air are around 6 to 7
>anti-air parries are 5f
>red parries are 2f for special move and 3f for normals

>>715850136
this. i don't even wanna see Street Fighter characters i like in the new Street Fighter game. why the FUCK would i want hypermonetized, hypercommercialized, RE Engine MvC?

>>715853454
Sure, but that's how GGfags feel about arcsys too.

>>715853513
I seriously fucking doubt it.
If ArcSys had fallen for the realism meme instead of continuing to make Anime looking games maybe, but they didn't.
Good Lord, realistic Guilty Gear characters would be even more abhorrent than what we got in SF6...

>>715853592
I'm guessing you haven't spoken to any old GG players about Strive.

>>715853513
i think its worse for SF6 because it's a double whammy. they're going to look like shit because of the RE Engine, and they're going to be a homogenous blob because of the Drive System. at least Strive has great baseline graphics, even if the user interface and wall break mechanics are hideous, and i'm not a fan of the character designs.

i get why you might not wanna see your favorite Guilty character dumbed down (if Strive is as dumbed down as they say), but at least they'll look better and inspire fantastic new fan art. in part because Strive is just a signficant iterative improvement in fidelity over Xrd, and didn't veer off into a completely different style like 6 has.

>>715853729
I am an old GG player.
This person >>715854008 already explained the situation much better than I could. I can understand why people dislike the watered down Guilty Gear gameplay in Strive but at the very LEAST it looks like a game in the same series.
SF6 is watered down too and then it looks and sounds like SHIT on top of that.

>>715853592
This.

Imagine realistic Sol, or Ky or anyone else, it would make SF6 look actually good

>>715854008
Completely disagreed. Even if you ignore the gameplay aspect entirely, the visual style and character designs are completely different. Xrd was already a step in the wrong direction (away from the metal aesthetics), but Strive jumped off a cliff. Nothing about it is Guilty Gear outside the names. At least SF6 is a Street Fighter game, even if you don't like some of the design decisions. I play both series and the Street Fighter players I know are all much more positive about SF6 (invluding visually) by comparison.
>>715854113
I'm also an old GG player. I have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe it's not so drastic if your point of contact is just Xrd, but at least from a +R player perspective it's sad as fuck to see. In my scene whenever another classic character gets Strived you get a mixture of people being sad their main got ruined and others breating a sigh of relief they got to dodge a bullet again.

>>715854408
I started playing Guilty Gear with X on the Dreamcast.
I don't know what you want me to say, characters in Strive don't make me want to gouge my eyes out. Characters in "Street Fighter" 6 do.
Simple as.

>>715854483
I think you're the first person with that opinion I've ever encountered. Certainly I can't understand it. But I guess there's nothing else to say.

>>715853513
Old GGfags also hated Xrd and BlazBlue. I understand their reasonings but they can’t be relied on as a playerbase.

>>715854553
Well yes, Xrd and BB are shit compared to XX series (especially Accent Core). But Xrd is just a bad Guilty Gear game, not a completely different thing. Blazblue is just kind of ass but it at least isn't pretending to be GG (anymore).

Strive ruined Dizzy and Six will ruin Ingrid

>>715854408
writing Xrd and Strive off because they're not "metal" feels a bit extreme. if i came in here and one of my main criticisms of SF6 was that it veered into hip-hop sounds and aesthetics, i don't think that would hold up under scrutiny very long.

this is anecdotal, but Street Fighter 6 doesn't look like Street Fighter to me, either. the switch from key frame animation to motion capture really disrupts what SF is supposed to look and feel like, to me. they've got characters in that game throwing blue and lime green particle effects all over half the screen who've never had a blue or green particle effect in their lives. cramming all the SF4 and SFV system mechanics into one Drive meter isn't enough to make it "feel like SF" to me, either.

>>715854550
>first person with that opinion I've ever encountered.
Nta but you genuinely must not talk to a lot of people who've played the older games then. That aside how big is your "local scene" anyway?

>>715854914
Street Fighter has a different flavour in every iteration. Guilty Gear was always metal. If I were to carry this on to a music analogy, Xrd is where the metal band made a more mellow rock album (upsetting many fans) and Strive is where they decided to start making pop rock for radio play.
Street Fighter always changes things up and honestly hasn't looked good since 3rd Strike, so it stands out less.
>>715855017
A lot of my friends are people I met through fighting games (mainly GG, Tekken and SF). Many of them don't play fighting games anymore, but I'd say I'm still friends with about 20 old GG players out of which half are active in some way.

>>715854408
>even if you don't like some of the design decisions
As an SF player I see this situation as the complete opposite. Looking at Strive I see a game that, clearly, isn’t nearly as complex as its predecessors (especially +R), but is still recognizably Guilty Gear. The metal aesthetic might be gone (frankly I thought it was already gone in Xrd) but Sol and Ky still look like Sol and Ky. They still do Sol and Ky things even if it’s gutted, lesser versions of them. This is ontop of the fact that Strive, inarguably, pushes the boundaries of what a 2D fighting game with a 3D graphics engine can look like. It just *looks* cool even if it doesn’t play as good as it looks.
With SF6 I feel like the series just completely lost the plot. I think the game is uglier than even SF4 with this hideous attempt at realism that makes every single character not named Mai look like they have some kind of disease or like a racist caricature. It’s not the redesigns that I dislike, it’s how they’re implemented in game. Everyone jerking off over Cammy tanline swimsuits is going to look like a fucking mongoloid when she inevitably looks like dogshit in game. This extends to the gameplay. Whatever interesting moves or options they gave characters and heavily minimized by some of the most overpowered system mechanics I have ever seen in a game, maybe even worse than level 3 X-factor. The drive guage just paves over all character specific options: why do anything but strike > slime mid screen because it’s the best pressure and corner carry you have in your kit. Why do any mix other than strike/throw because drive parry counters everything else and strike/throw itself is ungodly powerful?
As long as you have a divekick (which makes jumping out viable) and the ability to turn two bars into 70% in the corner every single character plays the same. Maybe I’m wrong but watching Evo last year it still seemed like Strive had real character expression.

>>715855442
>and honestly hasn't looked good since 3rd Strike,
I see this opinion way too often and I strongly disagree, some character in SFIV look great to this day, and the game itself looks fine in motion.
SFV is the closest Capcom has ever gotten to realizing the Street Fighter aesthetic in 3d; some characters look like SHIT yes, but the absolute majority of the cast (including almost every single one of the girls) looks how they are supposed to look. People will sperg out about "muh clay" as if this was not very common in 3D animation, or as if it was a defect in and of itself.

>>715855862
>Everyone jerking off over Cammy tanline swimsuits is going to look like a fucking mongoloid when she inevitably looks like dogshit in game
You would think so but no, these people WILL tell you that she looks amazing in game too, completely ignoring her retarded looking face.

>>715850136
Spot on.

>>715855442
>Street Fighter always changes things up and honestly hasn't looked good since 3rd Strike
Visually sure but I think mechanically this is overblown. SF2 all the way to SFV all play identifiably like Street Fighter, regardless of what mechanical changes are made with each game.
6 being so offense focused is unique.

>>715855442
Yeah like I said, not a lot. Even then saying you've never encountered someone with an opinion like him on this site is strange because there were a bunch of people posting with that very opinion at anytime throughout the 6 years it's been 1st revealed and fully released.

>>715856058
>You would think so but no, these people WILL tell you that she looks amazing in game too, completely ignoring her retarded looking face.
You’re right. People to this day try to say Kimberly doesn’t look like a horrible alien too.
When Abigail came out for 5 everyone rightfully shat on him for looking so ugly. Why does SF6 get a free pass on all of its ugly characters?

SF has to look ugly to reflect its poor userbase

>>715856305
Abigail is categorically different though.
If Zangief, Hugo, Abigail or Blanka look -ugly- but faithful to their design then that means they have a good model, it is intentional.
If characters who have always been genuinely cute like Cammy or Chun-li suddenly look like goblins then we have a problem.

>>715856305
>Why does SF6 get a free pass on all of its ugly characters?
Because whatever the current sf is will always be someones first fighting game or first dighting game they took seriously. And on the flipside a lot of street boomers have serious sunken cost bias in the franchise and with their aging reflexes and tech illiteracy they cant be bothered to set up fightcade and play the old games, so theyed rather plug in their new play station and mash specials with noobs.

And if you want to see sf6 as a game they looks good you can try to cherry pick screen shots and tell yourself it does. For a lot of people, its enough that its high poly and semi realistic. It certainly looks current gen. There are a lot of just blatantly aesthetically blind retards out there who dont care about anything other than getting "their money's worth" in regards to visuals -- a lot of people just want games to look new to justify their investment in the game and the console theyre playing on

Uhhh tldr people are fucking retards and in denial

>>715855862
Even though he's one of the least changed, you can still probably fit like 3 XX Sol sprites inside the Strive model with how they roided him up. But you only need to take a look at some of the others, like Testament, ABA, Faust and so on. But that's just character design, the entire tone and art style is different. Not to mention the music. GG used to be all about aggressive guitar riffs, blood tits and chains. Edgy stuff for edgy persons such as myself.
>>715856058
Well, I skipped SF4 because I hated how it looked.
>>715856234
How is that not a lot? How many old GG players do you personally know? I'm specifically talking about people I know and talk to face to face regularly who've played GG since pre-Xrd here.

>>715856739
>Testament, ABA, Faust and so on.
Again, outsider looking in but I think it’s very easy to see that they’re the same characters visually even if they’re wearing different clothes.
>the entire tone and art style is different.
Maybe it’s just a personal thing but outside of how technically impressive it was I always thought Xrd looked hideous compared to +R and that Strive was a massive improvement even if it was different.

>>715856739
>Well, I skipped SF4 because I hated how it looked.
But you can tolerate SF6?

Oh side note every time capcom tried to actually improve the visuals in sf, they were never rewarded for it.

When sf2 jumped to the cps2 and they made super sf2, the sf2 fatigue was setting in and neither new challengers nor super turbo performed as well as champion edition on cps1 despite improved visuals with the new portraits ui new moves flashy supers new stages etc

Then they made the sfa series and from a critical perspective it looks like a step up from 2. But to most consumers it was just more of the same. But this time anime, which was a little divisive even during the anime boom. Didnt make as much money as 2 even though it performed good, it didnt do as well.

In 3 nee generation they went absolutely all in on the visuals only to be met with a resounding "looks like a super nintendo game again faggot" and with 3rd strike they literally shipped more units and saw increased revenue in arcades after technically downgrading the backgrounds and ost (in terms of fidelity) to make room for more roster additions.

And this whole time a lot of people still saw sf as a franchise as that game full of ugly bastards with generic ahh stereotype costumes and no personality.

Capcom realized people just wanted the world warriors back in 3d and gave it to em in sf4, on a modest budget and daigo ikeno deliberately drew everyone looking like gorillas because thats nostalgic for street boomers i guess. And it blew up. Biggest hit since 2

Not at all shocking they continued to phone in the presentation in the games going forward.

>>715857074
I probably could tolerate it if I liked how it played, but no not really. The SF game I mostly play these days is ST. I'm just comparing it to how GG was butchered, from my perspective it seems less drastic. I still know lots of SF players who play 6 and are reasonably happy with it too, even if they all complain about drive rush when they get the chance. Most of them seem at least ok with the visuals.

>>715857074
Youre talking to the same dude who hates bb and xrd but likes the look of strive right? Is it any surprise?

Its probably a typical case of get into franchise as a kid > dip as a jaded overly critical teen / young adult > return to franchise as a soijak millenial ready to consoom.

Many such cases.

>>715857118
We are paying for our sins of not embracing Alpha 2

>>715808367
no, i've messed with it before to try dealing with >>715808702 but the investment:reward ratio always seemed too low, i just IB+backdash out of mawaru loops instead. i still go for slashbacks for fun sometimes though
maybe if i get annoyed enough at ky 3H i'll practice SBing that

>>715857440
Read the reply chain again anon, you have it backwards

>>715857440
I will not tolerate being called a Strive lover, even by mistake.

>>715857118
>>715857459
So why were the EX games generally not particularly liked? Did Arika's original characters not really resonate with people?

>>715857597
They were weird non-traditional SF games that, even though they were goofy fun, were abjectly inferior to all the excellent 3D fighters coming out at that time.
Hell it wasn’t even the best Capcom fighting game series to use a 3D engine. Project Justice was way better.

>>715857459
Man I played the SHIT out of Street Fighter Alpha 2, both in the arcades and on my Super Nintendo
Back then I used to think that the blue after images of your character when you did a super move were the absolute coolest shit ever.

>>715857597
>Did Arika's original characters not really resonate with people?
People on the Internet meme about liking Skullomania a lot but I've never actually met anyone who likes him face to face.
I like Blair. Yes, it is entirely because she has a fat ass and wears a thong leotard.

>>715857959
>Yes, it is entirely because she has a fat ass and wears a thong leotard.
Based

>>715857959
I know some people like Pullum but I'd argue Rogue from Power Stone does the whole Middle Eastern princess thing better.

>>715857597
They were undermarketted, it was an arike game not a capcom game, they didnt bring back enough world warriors to please the autists, and the visuals were actually sub par for the time -- if you compared it to vf or tekken or whatever, there was growing street fighter fatigue and fighting game fatigue. I think for some a 2.5d fighter wasnt enough, i think it was seen as barely a step forward at all. And legitimately the game feel for lack of a better word is worse than 2, alpha, or 3

It also through no fault of its own... didnt have the hype of "street fighter is back after an absence so long people began to wonder it had fucking died"

I think ex was a fine series but i understand why it failed to connect with people on release the way 2 or alpha did. Although, it wasnt a flop per se, it seemed to do okay ish until the bungled ex 3, where they rushed it to release and the bad press of the japanese release made people avoid the game and once again it looked rough for the era but by then, the powergap in visuals had grown even further. Soul calibur and doa utterly mogged it so no one gave a shit about ex 3.

>>715858059
Hard to beat Rouge’s transformation giving her nipple tassels

>>715738595 (OP)
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>>715850249
this nigga is gonna have a command grab super where he fuckin eats you

>>715861524
I will be playing him

>>715756403
Jedah bros...

I possess an earnest desire to escort you on an exhilarating and pleasurable journey, one that entails a delightful vehicular excursion.

Are there any other fighting game characters who work like the original Chameleon - he'd constantly be changing movesets between the palette swap ninjas every few seconds depending on which colour he was. Then when he was in Armageddon they sort of ruined him by just giving him a move from each ninja and called it a day.

Obviously mimic characters don't count since it's just per round.

>>715738595 (OP)
I've never fought a game before. Should be easy though, they don't fight back usually.

>>715738595 (OP)
Sadly my only friend that likes fighting games only like Tekken, i guess that's better than nothing...

>>715864224
>dumbass friends won't try any 2D
>They like Tekken 7 though
>Alright fine I'll fucking buy Tekken 8
>Get my ass kicked because the only 3D I've ever played is a little bit of SC6
>Figure out a couple of basic frame traps and punishes
>Start doing alright against them
>They stop playing
>I play a little bit longer in the masher ranks and then go back to 2D shit
fuck tekken

I wish Max had payed $100,000 to add fancy retextures and cel-shading to SFV...

>character ruined the genre for me because no other fighting game character will ever be as fun to me again
Oh well.

Umemaro3D called, he wants his models back. LOL

https://youtu.be/WNCHCYMoYuI?t=467
what will he sound like in japanese?

>>715867182
Norio Wakamoto

>>715738595 (OP)
yes