← Home ← Back to /v/

Thread 715750276

24 posts 10 images /v/
Anonymous No.715750276 [Report] >>715751308 >>715751565 >>715752178 >>715752563 >>715752796 >>715754093 >>715754214
It was right you know. Human Beings lack the qualifications to exercise free will. We constantly need something to create context for us so we may know what's right or wrong.
We've done nothing but create war and hate and death through our genes, and our memes. The Patriots wouldn't do that...
Anonymous No.715750448 [Report]
You are right OP. It's only natural to let AI handle the context from which we stimulate our evolution as a species. I agree with this sentiment.
Anonymous No.715750863 [Report] >>715751931 >>715751979 >>715753157
The sad part is that i actually believe a good chunk of humanity (myself included) isn't "fit" to exercise free will. I am more cog than man nowadays. I am the artificial one.
Anonymous No.715751308 [Report]
>>715750276 (OP)
Childhood was idolizing Solidus.

Adulthood is realizing the Patriots were (almost) right.
Anonymous No.715751565 [Report] >>715752987
>>715750276 (OP)
Every human's natural instinct is to hate and kill everything that's not themself.
Anonymous No.715751931 [Report]
>>715750863
Well at least you're honest
Anonymous No.715751979 [Report]
>>715750863
everyone craves individuality and uniqueness at any level, both for themselves and for other people and their surroundings. this is what culture is about.
a world like whag the patriots would envision is a hive mind, a world where people wouldn't have that factor. essentially, it would be inhuman. a better world? maybe, but not an enjoyable one
Anonymous No.715752178 [Report]
>>715750276 (OP)
desu I don't mind being ignorant on subjects because being exposed to them is a chance to learn from somebody or news/dedicated sites. Seeing posts here, twitter, private discord groups saying @grok and actually wanting it to tell them everything, not just as a joke, is a little sickening.
Anonymous No.715752245 [Report]
fuuuck i love this part so much
there is no other game that pulls off a twist finale as well as mgs 2
Anonymous No.715752536 [Report] >>715752903 >>715753952 >>715757705
Free access to unlimited and unvetted information that anyone can add to without any form of curation was a mistake. The internet as a whole should be razed, no matter how high the initial cost may seem, for the betterment of the future.
Anonymous No.715752563 [Report]
>>715750276 (OP)
Parially right. AI needs to be in charge of man, but there needs to be a cyborg co-pilot. MSG2 AI are fags and won't ever be able to provide what humans truly need.
Anonymous No.715752796 [Report] >>715753078
>>715750276 (OP)
who the fuck is we? If you've taken even just a cursory look at most documented wars then you'll quickly find that the average person has no say at all and they're largely dickwaving contests by people at the top. Most people are just trying to survive life and hold onto the little bit of happiness they find. The human problem is figuring out how to stop those relatively few men from bending the world and society to their whims
Anonymous No.715752903 [Report]
>>715752536
>Free access to unlimited and unvetted information that anyone can add to without any form of curation was a mistake
the internet wasn't like this until social media came around dummy
Anonymous No.715752980 [Report]
Having taken a look at what AI has done in the last 3 years alone I'd say kindly fuck off, the gentle singularity is a meme and won't benefit anyone but its owners.
Anonymous No.715752987 [Report] >>715755445
>>715751565
moronic nonsense
Anonymous No.715753078 [Report] >>715753417
>>715752796
>The human problem is figuring out how to stop those relatively few men from bending the world and society to their whims
Which is never going to happen. Human nature will always have someone seeking to be at the top of his peers, always.
Anonymous No.715753157 [Report]
>>715750863
Free will is not the problem, it's inherent to the human condition and attempting to remove it is not only impossible but also retarded, as it would eliminate the biggest factor that enabled humanity to advance this far.
What 95% of people shouldn't have is any amount of political power, especially pretty much everyone currently in power.
Anonymous No.715753417 [Report]
>>715753078
i always thought sociopathy is the single biggest danger to humankind
Anonymous No.715753952 [Report] >>715758475
>>715752536
The problem was the systematic loss of integrity across most high station entities. We are now a (rightfully) paranoid society. Not having trust in things blindly is good, but having no trust at all is a death spiral for societal progression. But, how to fix it? I dont know about any of you, but I dont particularly trust any government, corporation, or politician to fight for my rights in any way.

Why did this happen? Because for the last 15 years we have seen people have no attention span from the general populace (likely due to information overload) and letting corpos/politicians get away with everything under the sun. This is what truly broke everything. It showed outright that by throwing new scandals in front of the old ones, you could effectively survive what used to be corpo/political death. Now they have zero reason to be beholden to the populace, because the populace are goldfish that will forget and/or use the product anyway because its too inconvenient to not use it. There is nothing to shackle greed and corruption any more outside of the most ultimate taboos, even even that is being eroded as the people stand by and watch as politicians outright 180 on stances about child rape, and yet nothing is done.

The reason why everything feels so shitty, despite most metrics of living actually improving over time, is because we are actively seeing humanity at its worse and most stupid 24/7, and the people at the top exploiting it. Thats why people feel hopeless. Because the only way to fix it this time is to fix fundamental flaws in the human psyche. Yet everyone is addicted to convienience, and having integrity is much harder than just scrolling through social media. We are hitting a wall soon with the limits of traditional computing, and while I hope tech doesnt halt, I hope we slow the fuck down long enough for society to have time to process the enormous leaps in progress weve had in the past 30 years.
Anonymous No.715754093 [Report]
>>715750276 (OP)
Indeed Kojima-sama. For instance you need context to know that your guitar fighting scene is actually not an allegory of man-on-man sex.
Anonymous No.715754214 [Report]
>>715750276 (OP)
>destroying yourself is le bad... why!?! BECAUSE IT JUST IS OK!!!
Anonymous No.715755445 [Report]
>>715752987
This. Everyone loves each other.
Anonymous No.715757705 [Report]
>>715752536
This
Anonymous No.715758475 [Report]
>>715753952
Those things aren't fundamental flaws, they're just the ways that we currently have been hacked. If you removed all the ways humans could be hacked, you'd be left with a mindless slave that obeys not because it's being manipulated into it but because it wants nothing else.

These things will solve themselves the way they always have. Current society will die, and another one will be born from its ashes. Probably out of another part of the world than the currently dominant ones, since the societal cancer will plague us for centuries to come unless somebody else comes in and purges it.