>Medic! MEDIC! Doc! Come on man!

The worst patients are always soldiers who have that pickaxe out that reduces healing and then bitch at you for not healing them 24/7.

>>715774056
>The worst [...] are [...] soldiers [...].

>waaah waaah sniper is overpowered
Why's he off-class in competitive and rare there?
>waah waah he's OP in casual
Like a conch box soldier? Or a natascha heavy? Maybe a soda popper scout? Eyelander demoknight? They're not overpowered if it's relying on the inexperience of players to stomp.
>nooooo there's no counterplay to sniper he just instakills me!!!
If you walk in a straight line or aren't paying attention, sure. You can move your head hitbox, you can listen for shots and time it, you can coordinate with your team, you can spam his location or suspected locations.
>WAAAAH THAT MAKES IT HARD TO AIM
>WAAAH HE'S TOO QUIET CUS HE'S FAR AWAY
>WAAAAH IT'S TOO HARD TO COORDINATE IN PUBS
>WAAAAAH I SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUST WALK UP AND KILL HIM
>IT'S NOT FAAAAAAIR I SHOULD JUST BE ABLE TO GET INTO HIS RANGE AND KILL HIM AND HE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!!
You just need to get better at the game then.

Sniper is NOT overpowered. YOU are underpowered. Stop blaming it on a 17 year old hat trading simulator.

>>715774246
kys pedo

>>715773697 (OP)
I look like this and say this

>>715774056
Dumbass use your crossbow you gain Uber fast.

>>715774246
You have to be actually retarded to even consider sniper strong let alone op
But yeah competitive being soldier: the game, and casual being 60% soldiers because of how overpowered they are, THATS ok

>>715774246
falling for the bait I know, but im gonna get this off my chest in case anyone here genuinely believes this statement.
People saying sniper is overpowered is just a cope. They say hes overpowered because they got 1 shot and thats not fun. Its mostly a skill issue that is being masked by a buzzword
However, sniper being an unfun presence at all times is a worthwhile criticism that should be addressed. Engaging with a sniper is not fun, there is no back and forth exchange. You either rape or get raped. Lame

>>715774764
crossbow is for niggers and metafags

>>715774246
What if snipers received that Battlefield 3 scope glare?

>>715774246
>Why's he off-class in competitive and rare there?
literally just because he can't rollout

>>715774783
comp is scouts and demos bro

(muffled MEDIC)

>>715773697 (OP)
last night i dreamt i was playing soldier and i was OWNING

>>715774764
It reduces crossbow healing too.

>>715774783
>But yeah competitive being soldier: the game
He is considered fodder in both 6s and HL, and he almost never gets the most kills or does the most damage in either too.

>>715775078
last night i dreamt i was out in the woods and surrounded by injuns but they didnt know i was there, and that i needed to both kill them and escape unseen.

>>715774764
I play stock on all classes though

>>715773697 (OP)
why does 124 look like 5 hp?

>>715773697 (OP)
i want overheal you fucking retard
it will take you literally 1 second to overheal me to full since I wasn't healed by any medic in the last 15 seconds because i'm roaming away from the team most of the time
do your fucking job

Hey doc, wanna build some uber?

>>715773697 (OP)
I always feel so awkward when a Medic ubers me just after i've exhausted both my pipes and stickies and i'm forced to reload.

>>715778468
literally no reason to ever use this in pubs with 11 players to heal

>>715779101
I already have it equipped to bully snipers and steal health packs on the enemy's side of the map, might as well sweeten the deal if a Medic hitches a ride back to the front lines.

>crit heals are the second most important mechanic in the entire game behind ubercharges
>valve made zero effort to teach players how they work or that they even exist
I can't blame new medics for not knowing about them but at the same time when I call med and they look at me, see im full health, and then ignore me it makes me so fucking mad

>>715775047
>>715775162
soldier is too valuable in competitive because he can be anywhere at any time and do anything
>pick medic?
>pick demo?
>pick sniper?
>defend medic?
>reinforce push?
>flank?
>backcap?
>touch point to prevent cap/backcap?
I mean really, yeah demo causes more damage and scout is best for scuffles, but if you didn't have soldiers the whole team would be completely dismantled. If soldier wasn't that great why not run pyro or something, then you could defend better against demo and uber pushes? Because nah, soldier is too good to give up. That versatility is vital. He doesn't have to be the one getting kills to be the backbone of the team, and he doesn't have to be OP busted in comp to be a requirement in comp.

>>715778946
tip: z8

>>715774764
but I play with the blutsauger and never heal anyone

>>715779205
>go up to a scoped sniper
>wrap assassin + cleaver
>steal the health pack in front him
>he bleeds to death and ragequits
I wish I recorded it because it was one of the most sadistic things I ever did in the game

>>715774986
nothing because the shitters still couldn't deal with it

>>715779318
>If soldier wasn't that great why not run pyro or something
pyro gets eaten alive by good scouts and he brings nothing to the table aside from airblast spam
soldier is absolutely weaker than scout and demo but the alternative is 4 scouts which would be miserable to play and watch

NEED A TELEPORTAH 'ERE

>>715777497
last night i had me a dream, son
the end of the world could be seen

>is the best map in your path

>>715779559
>so familiar with 2fort that I can see the color of the sky is fucked up just from the thumbnail
it's over

>>715774246
>remove sniper
>game is instantly more fun and engaging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFXGwko225k

>>715779280
Explain what the fuck crit heals are then, asshole
Unless you mean heals that aren't being reduced by taking damage recently

>>715774246
>it's a 'get instakilled from 3 rooms away because there was a tiny gap where the doorways lined up' episode

>>715779559
That's not Harvest

>>715774246
>comparing comp with casual
comps meta is not only about what's more "effective", it's also about what's more fun to play and watch.

>>715779623
in half the time it took you to make this post you could have just googled it retard

>>715779559
>...in the worst maps ever made competition

>>715779689
it's literally just healing not being reduced by recent damage
why is that called "crit" healing you might as well just call combat healing "falloff healing"

>>715775061
sauce

>>715779559
Doubelcross is better
Going into 2fort's water and having to walk all the way across a sewer makes me want to killbind

>>715774056
Silence healslut

>>715779559
that ain't 5gorge

>>715774246
>Why's he off-class in competitive and rare there?
Because he's slow and mobility is the only thing that matters to comp trannies you stupid retard
ignoring the rest of your retarded post sniper is the worst designed class in the game

>>715779764
it's 3x the healrate like how crit damage is 3x normal. that's what everyone decided to call them 18 years ago and it stuck.
>but I dont like that name
nobody cares autist.

>>715779769

>>715779623
on an unrelated note, if you attempt to "do me a favor" by explaining what crit heals is because I'm not healing optimally enough I will not be healing you and will call you a fag
>>715779101
there is if some asshole is targeting you

>>715779559
It's certainly the best for doing anything other than the objective

>>715781026
can't even claim that when hightower exists

>>715774246
20 seething soil-dur players in the (you)s lmao, eat shit faggots

>>715779318
> If soldier wasn't that great why not run pyro or something
The answer is that you can't run more Demoman or Scouts. Soldier is the best option because they can't stack any more of the better classes.

>>715781026
i disagree, no map is more fun to fight against the flow and actually try to play the objective. every single infiltration feels like a spy mission. it is a suicide mission, the odds are heavily against you. 2fort is a very dynamic roguelike

>>715779616
I wouldn't know because I always camped in the intel room with a sentry

>>715780219
OOF

>>715779559
I love how deceptively massive this map is

>"MGE me"
Your answer?

>>715773697 (OP)
MEEEEEEEEDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC

>>715779559
wrong, that belongs to dustbowl

>>715775061

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTBZbTwBrjU

>>715784074
post "ez win" on their profile so that for the short period of time that he hasn't deleted the post people will believe that i had actually won. and therefore, i would have actually won

>>715778946
i dont like getting ubered unless im playing pyro or heavy. otherwise, i miss every shot and feel like a total faggot and almost exit the game from the shame.

>>715784338
>have played for 5000 hours
>never seen anything like this
i know its parody but i don't know of what

>>715780219
Hot.
Get it? haha

>>715774246
>walking in the map trying to go the objective
>die
>freeze cam takes me to the other side of the map to reveal a sniper i would have 0 chance to see
that's why it's bullshit, he could miss his first shit and i wouldn't even know that
>inb4 the dot
even a mouthbreathing retard learns to hide it after playing sniper for 30 minutes

>>715779764
crits refer to three times, whether it's 3x the damage (the crits you know) or 3x the healing (crit heals)

>>715779559
>leave spawn
>3 faggot snipers camping from the balcony, insta killing you the second they see you forcing you to leave through sewers
fuck that, only time i have fun when there aren't snipers or if they suck

Favourite weapon reskin?

>>715786656
No contest.

>>715786656
the shooting star, because it takes the most ugly weapon in the game and makes it into something you could believe was a team fortress 2 weapon

>>715786491
It used to be fun when darwin's didn't just nullify my flares, snipers used to get cocky thinking I couldn't hit them twice.
Pyro just used to be way more fun in general before they nerfed literally everything about him with the only consolation being that extinguishing teammates gives you 20hp now
Less damage, worse airblast, worse afterburn, worse combos, worse weapons, etc than 2012/13 pyro

>>715773697 (OP)
how does it feel to be ubercharged bros?

>>715787162
Palpitations of your transplanted megafauna heart.

>>715787162
When you’re not distracted by the adrenaline of fighting, your rapid heartbeat probably feels very uncomfortable, as if it could burst at any second

>>715787162
salty coins and milk

>play Hoovy
>dare to step out into the open for 2 seconds
>die instantly from a sniper
>theres nothing you can do because you're a slow fatass
Defend this

>>715780219
>female
ugh

>>715787664
If Sniper gets to have middle finger items to two of his counters, then Heavy should have gotten a helmet which tanks headshots

whoever suggested the changes to the piss rifle should rot in hell

>>715779559
not even close, faggot

>load server
>spawn in
>spray wall right in front of resupply
What're you posting, bros?

>>715774246
sniper is actually really strong on last. the main thing keeping sniper from dominating 6s (he already dominates highlander) is a soldier sacrificing himself to bomb him from a corner. on last defense a sniper can stand at spawn next to a sentry and camp the entrances and hope to get a free kill before switching off to scout/heavy. and on attack he can lock down defense's exits very effectively by himself and it frees the rest of the team from that responsibility. also the occasional free kill can let his team quickly cap. sniper's also one of the more effective off-classes to play fulltime, its just that it takes a lot of skill to play him fulltime and most players would rather play more movement focused classes. ultimately people don't play sniper competitively fulltime because mobility is king and he's not going to have a sentry and 3 teammates in front of him like in casual

>>715784196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGs8nLgyQkQ

>>715778350
Spreading healing around requires too much brain activity for the average Medic player.

>>715788603
goatse hands on top of someone else's spray

>>715778946
Demo, Medic and Engineer are my top 3 classes so I know your pain, but 99.9% of the time when I uber you in that situation it's because I'm trying to save myself and you're the closest player so I might as well charge you too

>>715788603

>>715786814
i wish i could use it on engi...

>start healing
>they immediately run into the scrum

IM NOT AND NEVER WILL BE A POCKET MEDIC

i was in a server the other day and a medic actively refused to heal me as they were pocketing someone

>>715778334
It represents a mental state

>>715784769
>>715778946
medics usually blame themselves for popping at a wrong time if you don't get anything done so don't feel so bad

>>715778946
Medic can see how many shots are in your gun, its on him for popping too early. Though sometimes he has to pop to save his ass.
Dont worry too much about it, reload and get as much done as you can. As long as he wasn't expecting you to break 3 sentries and get a 5k, you'll be fine.
Its whiffing all of your shots due to sudden performance anxiety that feels awful. Someone post that worms demo uber webm, you know the one.

>6v6
i cringe
>16v16 2fort 24/7
real shit

>>715789025
Its not just mobility being king, but overheal too.
With only 5 people to heal its much more realistic to have a significant amount of players topped off and with how communicative they are it is guaranteed that whoever is sacrificing himself to kill the sniper is going in with a full overheal and sniper simply cannot deal enough damage on reaction, he would need to be hardscoped and that can be played around.
Class is still ridiculously strong, but a lot of pub sniper seething comes from not having overheal due to medic scarcity.

>>715794386
scout is more fun on 6v6

>>715774817
>However, sniper being an unfun presence at all times is a worthwhile criticism that should be addressed. Engaging with a sniper is not fun, there is no back and forth exchange. You either rape or get raped. Lame
thats exactly why people say he's op.
sniper boils down to a question of "can you reach the sniper before he sees and kills you?"
the problem is that this breaks down completely once the sniper gets good enough. you die for the simple crime of existing in his sightline (and on a good chunk of official maps, there is no way to get around the sightline. you have to enter it to approach the sniper, and sometimes even to get to the objective)
and, unsurprisingly, when you give a playerbase nearly two decades to work on their skill the class that becomes untouchable after a certain skill threshold does, in fact, become untouchable.
the problem of "i left spawn/entered the front line and immediately died with no chance for recourse" has existed for over a decade, and your own skill genuinely does not fucking matter because that sniper will hit you dead on with no care for your own movement.

compounding on the above, he's usually hidden behind 11 enemy gamers. if he misses and gives you an opening, you still need to get behind everyone else.
sniggers say "oh just rocket jump over" but thats not always an answer, such as inside maps/closed rooms where you have to enter the sightline to get to the sniper.
and even if it is, the enemy team will see you. it'll be a glorified trade and that faggot will respawn at the same time you do, meaning you've only wasted your time if your team didnt take the chance to push forward.
its a never ending treadmill to try and fight a good sniper, and it always ends with the game being outright miserable for you unless he ragequits/swaps

>>715794386
>9v9 class limit upward

Sniper is the class I play when I actively dislike the enemy team and want to shit on them with no way for them to fight back.

>>715773697 (OP)
just outrun the frontline heavy whos been fighting on objective to this thing and dont forget to grab the metal as well!

>>715796351
I only play sniper on hightower and use the middle exit to shoot anyone running up the tower for health. I use the machina to bodyshot them too for extra obnoxiousness. Inevitably like 3 or 4 of them will quit playing the game to exclusively focus on me but since I'm in spawn I just take a step back and am totally protected.

>>715788603
Sprays have been broken for me since 2022
I have checked every single spray setting I can find, I've checked them on boot to make sure they're correct, but I still can't see sprays even on community servers. I have no idea how to troubleshoot this problem after everything I've tried

>>715787984
the trve king is dom_hydro

>>715778334
How did it take the thread this long to ask this?

Do you people just blog the same shit over and over I rarely run into /v/ tards in tf2 where do you all play?

>>715798602
Issues with TC aside, hydro's layout is just hot garbage unless you exclusively play demo and engineer.
It's a product of pre-release TF2's map design phililosophy and it shows with how cramped every single route is.

>>715774056
you build uber faster that way

>>715798868
Kogastopia is a good server

nu payload maps are all overwatch clone maps, large as fuck, and overall provide an unpleasant experience and always have a cancerous gimmick at the last point

>>715799015
Play Venice if you want a miserable chokepointfest where no one seems to know how to play the map

>>715799015
I don't know why but tf2 numaps seem to be allergic to healthpacks and ammo. I hate playing on them in casual because if you take any damage you have to stop and wander around for pills. It's like they want medic to be even more powerful than he already is.

>>715798868
tiny kitty's girl pound is the place to be :3

>>715778334
Must be an option for the value to measure health missing instead of health remain ning

>>715799015
Why do modern payload maps all have 4 - 5 points now? What happened

>>715798868
casual
a 50v50 servers

>>715799904
all the map trannies wanted to look special, I never understood the dislike for the early payload maps broken up into rounds

>>715774056
>pkaying pyro
>have the backscratcher because I don't expect heals, want to be self sufficient
>the moment I step out of spawn a medic healbeam latches onto me and I feel his scorn through my monitor

>Most servers disable sprays
>Tauntsliding gone
not playing after these betrayals

>>715779101
Because killing someone with it is a great insult.

>>715799904
People have shown a preference for playing 1 long round instead of multistage A/D maps.
Having the momentum to sweep the entire stage and not stopping all progress to give defenders an additional minute to stack defenses makes things overall faster. And in the era of matchmaking it means that stomps and rolls aren't going to stick around for as long as the map vote comes up and people dissolve from a match they arent having fun with.
Multistage maps do still exist and get made, but just look at how frequent they are compared to single stage A/D payload or control point maps.

>>715800158
you have a weapon designed specifically for this purpose

>>715798370
decals 5000 in console

>healing heavy, full ammo
>we know a sentry is around the corner
>spam go, I have uber etc.
>he hesitates
>fuck it, pop Uber and walk in front of the fire
>he hesitates
>uber is about to run out
>he fucking sprints into those bullets like they were made of salami

>>715773697 (OP)
I am the best player on the team. If I am at 124 HP and a medic doesn't heal me you'd better believe I'm taking a med pack, because 1hp of mine is worth two of your lives.

>>715800329
Fan-o-War is more insulting to die to.
It even uses the same voice responses as the holy mackerel when you get a kill.
>yo didya even see me hittin, ya?

>>715800329
I prefer them to know that they got killed by something that would've killed me instead of they weren't such easy targets.

>>715779489
Somebody wanna wrassle up uh... teleporter right here?

Egypt is my favorite and I DON'T CARE that it's unbalanced

>>715779559
I love 2fort
I don't trust anyone that dislikes 2fort

>>715787984
I fucking hate how zoomers struggle with this map. I fucking love Hydro

>run around as shotgun Heavy
>actually piss off some autistic medic who wants a sandvich

>>715786814
I wish I had an Australium pan just so I could use it on Engineer and Spy

>>715794386
Compfaggots deserve the rope desu

>>715794386
i prefer turbine

[can't wake up]
save meeee

>play with the syringe gun
>Just to piss off people
>Playing in pubs
>Wounded soldiers and demos stand in place with low health, looking at me
>Switch to syringe, fire one syringe at them, then laugh at them
>Got vote kicked two times for doing this cause I pissed off some fags in a stack

>>715805154
Something like this happened to me like a month ago but he was genuinely new and didn't have a crossbow yet, he saw other medics doing it and was copying their behavior without thinking.
I gave him a spare that I had.
Godspeed xXxCartelWheelxXx, wherever you are.

>>715788603
my waifu to reinforce me playing

>>715778334
>>715798792
Because it's probably just RTD or VSH (& Friends) boosting health capacity such that 124 only constitutes a small fraction.
Doesn't provoke much curiosity in anyone who has actually played the game in the last decade.

>see heavy with fists of steel
>whip out rake
heh, nothing personnel...

>>715807573
ARGHNYAADAAAAAAA

one shotting cocky full health eyelander demoknights to zero with a 244 crit with the rake feels so good.

>see rare octoheavy
>manage to get a 5 killstreak with a single melee swing
This weapon is so dumb but I love it on chokey maps for those rare times I get ubered into the attackers in a small space

>>715808029
i never think of equipping it when there's a vacc medic (despite remembering to swap to melee to bypass the resistance when i manage to get close)

Mine doesn't get much use either

>>715808212
Its probably the best one to use for defense of places like dustbowl last. Obviously there's homewrecker if your engineer is being sexually assaulted by the french but for killing its hard to pass up an opportunity to drop right on a medic combo and crit them both

>>715807250
>probably
So you don't know for sure. Still worth questioning.

I love each and every class and subclass equally
Except for you fat scout. I will not heal you.

>>715808652
No, not really.
It's a commonplace sight.
Knowing the precise circumstances does not enrich me in any way.

>be medic
>try to uber to push payload or clear point to cap
>they always go for kills and waste my uber
>tell them to stop chasing kills
>get votekicked

Where is the summer update bros?

>>715810042
Can't push the cart while ubered. The only thing to do is chase kills.

>>715773697 (OP)
Wtf?

>die
>entire team starts getting destroyed

server idea, on join if you have cl_spraysdisabled set to 1, you get kicked with message 'turn on sprays faggot'

>>715816076
servers can't edit client values

it'd be funnier to mod sprays as an entirely different thing, so they can't be turned off

>>715773697 (OP)
>Have this one black sounding Bong being a complete prick to me for the entire match
>Constantly screaming shit like "HEAL ME YOU COCKSUCKER" When I'm healing other players
>Just let him die and play the schadenfreude taunt every time
>He gets ultra salty about it because I heal everyone but his rude British ass