>beloved game starts out good then becomes garbage through dev incompetence

>>715778826 (OP)
Hm just wondering the dwarf has a big ol mighty phallus and the elf has a mystical gate to enter. Thats some hidden s3xo shit

>>715778826 (OP)
>still one of the top MMOs somehow

*malice
Everything bad about the game was done on purpose, not accident

>>715780021
This. They got started on it right away assassinating beloved characters from WC3 in TBC.

Rogues do it from behind

>>715778826 (OP)
I'm sensing a pattern...

tauren women were the only good thing to come out of the game

>>715778826 (OP)
idk im having fun

>>715779763
Said no one ever

>>715781105
Objectively it's one of the most successful.

TBC
>Flying
>Arena focus
>Shift into homogenous class balance (for arenas sake)
>Fucking space sliens and shit
>Blood Elves on horde instead of high elves on ally
>No goblins
>SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
>Did i mention how much i despise the scifi artstyle mixed with fantasy?
>SPACE GOOOOATS AND SPACE SHIPS!!!

>>715778826 (OP)
No. Just no.

>>715781234
>Alliance-cucks STILL crying over not having a reshade of blood elves on Alliance

>>715781364
>reshade
You mean palette swap? Reshade is a graphics plugin.

>>715778826 (OP)
wow was never good

>>715781364
They always cry.

>>715779763
If that isn't proof that the genre is dead then I don't know what is.

>>715780107
Stunlocked girls can't say no

>>715778826 (OP)
This game was destroyed by the autists it attracted and Blizzard was too weak to maintain their creative integrity and listened to the retarded fanbase, to the game's detriment.

>>715781234
>Shift into homogenous class balance (for arenas sake)
This is so wrong that there's no way you even played the game. The changes homogenizing the game mostly came in wrath/cata and were pve focused, because people were whining that their spec wasn't desired in dungeons/raids, so you started getting changes like everyone gets aoe or a raid buff. You have stuff like replenishment being added as a mechanic and granted to multiple specs because people didn't like that having a shadow priest felt mandatory in raids. Those changes are not arena focused at all.

>>715782892
>The changes homogenizing the game mostly came
Yeah, mostly
TBC was the start of the downfall
Adding arena in, then people whining about balance is what started it all
Druid class balance before:
>This class sucks in 1v1 and TEAM DEATHMATCH (arena)
>But it is top dog in survivability, utility and objective gameplay (WSG, AB)
Druid class balance after (arena)
>This class doesnt do enough damage
>This class doesnt have enough CC
>Make the class just like the other classes

The fact that WOTLK made it even worse doesnt mean anything to me, just that TBC started it (Added arena in, focused class balance on it rather than BGs)
TBC being lauded as the best expansion is a joke, its a horrible mismatch of ideas from classic RPGs and modernized convenience, it does neither well and ends up in a totally akward position
You can see it in the first dungeons you enter, they have become just as tunnel like like as they were in WTLK, no soul like BRD or UBRS/LBRS, just a tunnel and at the end a boss with loot, its trash

>>715781234
>>Flying
>>Arena focus
These two are what really killed wow. Flying killed the world, and arenas killed any potential for casual fun in pvp.

>>715781184
cringekino

>>715781234
There is nothing wrong with fantasy sci-fi, they just did a shitty job on it
like the goat spaceships design was nothing like sci fi anyway, just some shitty malformed ugly shit

the hellfire peninsula's asteroids skybox isn't sci fi

Why isn't everyone abandoning modern vidya in favor of OSRS?

Why, /v/?

>>715787407
>>There is nothing wrong with fantasy sci-fi

>Scifi but with gunpowder...
>Suddenly fucking space ships

Speak for yourself, for me it was like getting stabbed in the back

>>715787549
>Solo grinding adventure vs actual MMO where you do stuff with hundreds of people all the time

>>715787865
does this look like a spaceship to you?
to me neither

>>715779763
People are sunk cost as fuck on WoW.
They'd have you kill a family member before they gave up their 1000 mounts or transmog that's no longer possible to obtain.
Playing something different (better) is completely out of the question.

>>715778826 (OP)
>through dev incompetence
through BlackRock investment*
ftfy

>>715784108
If druids flagrunning made up for sucking ass at literally everything else it would be more popular in vanilla
Its not, stop defending dogshit

>>715788363
??? its 4 space ships.

WoW is over twenty years old. The average WoW players is in his late 30s.

>>715789397
This is the real reason a wow 2 will never happen.

>>715790527
And looks like this

>>715778826 (OP)
What is every game?

>>715781184
>u gotta grind real hard so you can adopt a womanchild at the ripe age of 35

the level of cognitive dissonance these retards have.
>make career criticizing useless women about "what they bring to the table"
>so anyway guys u gotta waste your youth grinding real hard so you can adopt one of these womanchildren at the ripe age of 35


yea ok

>>715790658
I look like this but I only play Puzzle Pirates.

>>715790359
Druids could also stealth cap in AB, and in 1v1 they are actually very consistent, just not amazing.

Not every class needed to be a powerhouse in everything
Warriors were probably the WORST 1v1 class, but insanely good in 2vX
Priests were very good supports if not the best, but unless you were shadow you couldnt really do damage except try to outlast people, but you couldnt run away if the situation needed it
Rogues were aids for any prolonged fights (ALL BGS) but were amazing when they had their cooldowns, best stealth cappers
Warlocks fucking sucked vs melee and during vanilla were considered the actual worst class of the game, which isnt true as they have the biggest spell burst damage potential and with gear they could kill lesser geared people with just their dots (good in BGs)
Hunters had insane physical burst and could poke people to death from long range, and they had amazing CC. but people didnt consider them overpowered (they were)
Shamans had insane and reliable spell burst on cd but no CC at all, could also heal people in a pinch and were aids to take down like paladins
Paladins had insane utility but less healing potential than priests but were potentially very tanky, DS is the best CD in the game for all BGs

Druids could spin flags all day, could stealth cap shit people werent defending and were the de facto best flag carriers in the game
But druids werent able to do much burst damage so they suck and they NEEDED to be able to do the same damage (Except priest and paladin)

>>715790519
more like floating crystal castle
either way, hardly sci fi

>>715788363
Yes.

>>715792285
Looks scifi to me, thats all that matters. Its shit

Classic wow is just a way for thirdies to make money and leech of rich westerners that pay for gold.

>>715781234
Don't forget the giga-cancer that is dailies

>>715781234
don't forget that's when they started recycling content and passing it off as new content (heroics)

>>715778826 (OP)
Blizzard was never good

>>715794908
yet their 20+ year old games still have a big playerbase
interesting

>>715787865
this ip started as orcs invading from another planet so I'm not exactly miffed whether they travel by portal or spaceship

>>715794771
Rehashing leveling dungeons as harder endgame content so that you could actually do them more than like, once, was actually the only good idea TBC had. It felt more like it was keeping them relevant rather than just making you retread the same content over.

The real rehashy shit was heroic raids and mythic. Raids should have never had another difficulty and dungeons didn't need multiple hard difficulties.

>>715781860
They dont get it

>>715796635
>Millions of flies eat shit

Post gameplay so we can laugh

playing TBC as a 12 year old was so based
shame the company sold out

Woke game
Pride shit
SJW trash

Name a more humiliating fall

>>715778826 (OP)
Void Lords are the actual good guys in warcraft, they want to end the cringe

>>715798536
>be a zoomyfaggot
>make a witty exquisite joke
>no one played your nuwow shit to appreciate it

>>715799623
take your meds grandpa

>>715784889
You can still have casual fun in pvp in TBC. You just can't get BiS gear from BGs anymore.

>>715778826 (OP)
>starts out good
It was EverQuest for ultra casuals with pastel faggotry smeared all over it.

>>715778826 (OP)
>Hear about it for years
>Download and play a human paladin
>Things seem pretty straight forward, do quests in the starting zone then move onto that forest town then finally Stormwind
>Get to the big city after some hours because I like spending my time
>Zero clue on what to do next, where to go, who to talk to
>Stop playing
>Rinse and repeat every 5 years

>>715778826 (OP)
>beloved game starts out good then becomes garbage through dev incompetence
I know you're talking about expansions but you could apply this exact criticism to Vanilla where the early game is packed with things to do and places to go and then turns into a slog near the end where they ran out of time to finish zones and questlines.

>>715781234
Then WoW was just never for you. Orcs have only been on Azeroth for like 30 years when WoW's timeline starts. WoW is more sci-fi than fantasy.

>>715778826 (OP)
Any good blizzlike classic PvP private servers about? I heard Firemaw launched a PVP server earlier this year, and fresher is always better, but can't get on their website to make an account.

I'd try Everlook but I heard it's full of chinks and it's new server Starfall seems dead.

>>715801552
>woolen bag
>not cotton bags
one job

Is TurtleWow still the goto for classic private servers? PVP doesn't concern me.

>>715801367
Did you think that was some kind of own? Because Orcs were originally from another planet? What a joke lmao

>>715802547
Didn't they do a PVP server? How did that turn out?

>>715778826 (OP)
Went downhill immediately with the launch of BC, but go off, queen.

>>715802547
Yeah if you just care about new content or clearing old content with a twist
Turtle is pretty crap for PVP because the devs dont balance the server for any of that
Personally i want to draw and quarter the tranny whose idea it was to add the fucking tree form to druids
>Many different ways you can make druid healing actually fun, active spells, add on to the HOT gameplay style
>Just add this retarded aura/buff that limits what spells you can cast and makes you look even more retarded than the chicken form

>>715781184
this guy actually sucks cock

>>715778826 (OP)
I don't think it's dev incompetence, it's watering down the experience for $$$

Do people still play official classic servers? What state are they in?

>>715781184
If you haven’t “made it” at 35, it’s probably over for you. I’ve fucked plenty of “bitches” and had a kid out of wedlock, and it landed me I. Jail and ended up homeless. Because I didn’t have enough money to get the fuck out of that situation. Anyways my point is you can always turn your luck around because men can “have kids” until they are old. Financial status means nothing when you can just approach a woman and grab her by the pussy

>>715778826 (OP)
>is saved through fans' competence and soul

>>715779763
Well everyone stop making MMOs and started making "WoW killers" instead.

I just wish Funcom didn't suck ass. Age of Conan and Secret World could have been so good but they're just not up to it. And now they just churn out dumb monetized survival games.(Though exiles still has some things going for it as a Conan fan)

>>715781234

>>715789397
This, there's a reason some of the oldest MMOs are still going and new ones can rarely get trough. FF14 broke the mold thanks to having the FF name behind it, despite its disastrous start.

Worgen boys are cute

>>715808757
could be good as long as they don't go overboard with increasing the difficulty