>assassins creed used to be kino af
>then it stopped
what happened?

they sacked the kinomeister

>>715794972 (OP)
they dropped le heckin epic ezio auditore da firenze as protagonist

I have inside information. They are considering making you play the modern day part of AC3 but in the animus as a different person controlling Desmond and actually changing the events of the ending.

>>715794972 (OP)
I don't know what the game series is actually about now. It has gotten so confusing that each game feels like a stand-alone history exploration game. They've introduced all these ancient gods, but not actual gods, and it feels like they just want to make a god of war like game but are stuck.

>>715794972 (OP)
Valhalla explained too much and turned the intentionally vague and often eerie pre-history mythology into capeshit.

They solved this entire plotline in a comic no one read btw.

Everything about the animus, the assassin-templar war, and the ancient civilisation was always shit.
They should've just had localised assassin groups.

The series' creator stopped being involved after Brotherhood. It was only meant to be a trilogy and not 20 fucking games.

>>715794972 (OP)
This was kind of a stupid moment because it meant that the ideological conflict that was the driving force of the story is now completely irrelevant, you play as a treasure hunter rather than as an assassin, and the templars are just generic bad guy obstacles who don't matter.

Assassins Creed 3 killed the series. Ever since then they've just been doing whatever they feel like.

>>715795235
>>715795242
their actual mythology game was more fun than the pesduo mythology shit they have now

>>715794972 (OP)
>what happened?
Ubishart fucked the creator over and he left because they wanted to milk the vision endlessly instead of letting the director just make the story as according to his vision

So Shadows was a flop then I take it?

>>715794972 (OP)
they stopped doing schizo puzzles

among other things of course, like diversity quotas for the supporting cast

>>715794972 (OP)
They killed the protagonist and plot points they had spent the entire series up to that point building up towards for the sake of milking the series endlessly.

>>715795250
Is that the Juno stuff? I felt like they were making her up as a big villain but I don't think she appeared in a game ever again

>>715795398
>Killed the series before most of the best games in the series

>>715795665
Not to mention that one schizo puzzle in the Ezio trilogy confirmed that the templars backed the Allies in WW2, meaning that they can never do le epic kill nazis AC game.

>>715795763
AssCreed 3 killed the narrative of the series. Beter games have come after it (Black Flag, Origins) but it's just a mess story wise.

>>715795678
Basically this. The first 5 or 6 games were all part of an overarching plot where each game was a new piece of the puzzle. However each piece became more and more crazy with the story until they wrote themselves into a corner by killing Desmond. Which is a shame because I would have liked to have gotten more snippets of gameplay in the modern day

>>715794972 (OP)
the story ended but ubisoft are greedy and decided to keep milking the game

>>715795726
She was a little in the BF, Rogue and Syndicate being shown as becoming more powerful by controlling the internet and planning her resurrection. Then they killed her offscreen by Desmond's black daughter who never appeared again.

>>715795834
Syndicate had that WW1 section where Churchill was a wholesome Assassin supporter so at least they made attempts to correct it for the modern audience.

>>715796059
>Desmond's black daughter
his what? when did that happen

>>715796059
>Then they killed her offscreen by Desmond's black daughter who never appeared again.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>715796112
>>715796246
I've made a mistake, it was a white son
https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Elijah
it happened in the comic never to appear again

>>715796294
>In 2005, after he ran away from his Assassin family and settled in New York City, Desmond Miles met a woman with whom he unknowingly conceived a child; Elijah.[1]
I see why you're confused now. Desmond is the black one

>>715796294
>The biggest evil of the entire series defeated offscreen by an obscure Sathurday Morning Cartoon Character

I play them when they're 75% and treat them like the stupid historical exploration games they are, and enjoy it that way. Odyssey has been my favourite of the newer ones.

i have no idea what the hell the story of 2 was about but i remember the desmond sections. i don't remember anything from brotherhood outside of putting the team together, but thats just my memory being bad i think.

are the actual stories of the later games good? or if i was confused/bored by 2 should i not bother replaying most of the games?

>>715796567
The only enjoyable stories in an AC game outside the Ezio ones are Black Flag and Origins.

>>715796294
cringe

>>715796716
AC1 has a great story too. Arguably the most nuanced and complex AC in terms of writing.

I'm trying to play ac2 and I keep fucking getting caught during the mission where ezio is learning how to blend in with crowds, I'll be literally blending in the whole fucking time but a guard will shout "HE'S HERE!" while ezio is blending and supposed to be invisible and it will fail the mission, this is bullshit, fuck this game

>>715796567
I wouldn't go in playing them for the story exactly. Though origins has the best overarching narrative of the modern games. Odyssey and Valhalla are fun if you are feeling the setting and go in just enjoying each areas narrative arc, treating each one like an episode of tv of something, and just enjoying the scenery and the ride, if you try to rush the story of either, you'll get burnt out.

I haven't played mirage or shadows yet, so cant comment. I did recently go back to play black flag again, and the parkour feels very dated and a chore to control. The sailing and ship combat holds up, but nothing on foot feels great.

My favorite is Odyssey, Greece is just very comfy to explore, and the humour is enjoyable throughout, especially in the side quests. Though taking Heracles to the olympics will always be a memorable gaming moment for me.

>>715797460
I beat the game like 5 times when I was 12 and never had that problem, so im gonna say it's a concerning skill issue on your part.

>>715794972 (OP)
black flag killed the franchise

>>715797892
How do you figure that? People overwhelmingly loved the pirate game. It was unity's technical issues that soured people on the series after already having burnout from yearly releases. And yet against all odds, the new games did manage to fix that reputation.

>>715797541
based Odyssey enjoyer. It's good silly fun but I wish they would have committed to an actual Greek mythology game instead of the ancient ayy lmao tech glitch shit they have instead.

>>715795360
This

>>715795763
>games better than the Ezio trilogy post AC3
Black Flag.. and... uh... well... erm...

>>715797892
Yeah
>>715798196
it was a fucking mess and filled with micro-transactions

>>715794972 (OP)
People with talent were replaced with diversity hires over time and the quality of the games reflects this.

>>715798196
it flopped because people wanted assassin creed instead they got a boat simulator

>>715795649
Wait, him? I thought it was "Jade's game"!

>that tease of Ancient Rome at the end of Origins
Evil Ubisoft. It would’ve been kino

>>715798645
It didnt flop lol, it was one of the highest selling of the older games.

>>715794972 (OP)
>what happened?
Present? Assassin's Creed IV.
Past? Assassin's Creed Unity.

>>715798215
I like the lore the games have set up, honestly. I liked Valhalla's god shenanigans. It just feels unique to assassins creed. Even if they dont know where theyre going with the modern day Templars, what they right about the past has been entertaining for me.

I might go back and play the Odyssey DLCs after I finish death stranding. I enjoyed all the Valhalla ones but never got around to Odyssey ones because I felt the game was big enough as is. But any excuse to hang out with Cass (the best AC protag) again

>>715799182
This is an Alexios thread m8

>>715794972 (OP)
People constantly kept bitching about the Animus portions thanks to Rev, 3, and Black Flag. This led to them toning it down in Rogue and outright removing it in Unity and Syndicate outside of the database and Unity's server hopping. People realized how retarded they were with it missing at the start of Unity and begged for a return to it which is why we have Layla, but people bitching about Layla now led to the situation with Shadows.

People need to stop bitching about Modern Day, it and the Isu are the glue holding the series and majority of the concepts together. It's also absolutely hilarious at times.

>>715795242
The last memory I have of Valhalla was when Eivor went to America and found the wall and apple where AC3 takes place and he leaves it be.

>>715799406
>Eivor Varinsdottir
>Dottir
>He

>>715798518
Origins. Bayek was a really good MC.
>>715799337
>The two VAs joking around that Alexios was selected more than Kassandra with them walking in the street where Alexios bumps her to the side with the words 70% more on his shirt

>>715797892
can confirm
i dropped the series at black flag

>>715799387
moosefag, what did you think of Shadows. You seem to know your shit with AC.

>>715799457
>Play viking game
>Choosing female

>>715799457
I just cannot play as a woman, unless I’m forced to. Especially in historical settings where a female character wouldn’t make sense.

>>715799457
patronyms are too comlicated for anglos & burgeroids
kinda weird since half of their basic grammar is scandi in origin

>>715799625
Lol such a stupid immature hangup to have.

>>715799925
Yeah but I just prefer playing as a man. Simple as.

>>715799182
Despite what anyone says, Kassandra was easily my favorite AC protagonist

>>715794972 (OP)
no it wasn't. I am replaying the franchise, all the old games are a slog

>>715799925
Just like forcing characters to be women for DEI points.

>>715799387
>but people bitching about Layla now led to the situation with Shadows.
Which is?

>>715800548
Ok chud, let me know when em8er is playable

>feel like replaying an AC game
>remember how long and bloated they are

>>715797541
>>715799182
This is either a shill or a R*dditor, go back either way.

>>715794972 (OP)
Her talking to the player was so coolest shit ever when I was around 12. Wonder if it still holds up on a replay

>>715797892
>everything outside of ship gameplay plays like shit
>they fucked up the climbing mechanics somehow with this game and never fixed it until they noticed how shit it was and streamlined the parkour rather than making it as good as it was in AC Revelations again.
I'll never forgive black flag for being the key game to kill fun parkour.

>>715801587
She was talking to Desmond, not the player.

>>715801934
Ironically, the game with the best parkour came after it but since then they keep making games in settings where there are no big buildings. Odyssey is great, but you're basically just climbing huts. God I wish Unity wasn't shit.

>>715802252
Those games have dogshit parkour mechanically. My issue is how it controls and the lack of control more than what you can and cant climb. AC2-ACR have really well made mechanics that give you virtually full control of how you climb, it might not look as good but for example, letting go of something and then grabbing back on before you hit the ground to drop from large buildings quicker. In a lot of the newer games, you cant even let go of buildings, you HAVE TO "parkour down" which tends to take fucking forever. Theres a lot of simple things like that which makes the old parkour feel so much better.

>>715794972 (OP)
I recently rewatched the ending of revelations after like 10 years and it was amazing

Really a shame to see what ubisoft turned into

>>715802901
kino

>>715802626
Agreed and they've completely fucked the parkour now. It's just one button to climb everything. No "skill" involved, just up up up.

>>715799457
>the animus can't determine the gender of this skeleton
>said skeleton has an intact skull
Also, why was Odin literally the only Norse Isu who didn't get reincarnated into a gender matched body?
Eivor is canon male, regardless of what the Ubitrannies say

>>715800909
>every game makes you slog through 2 hours minimum of boring horseshit before you can do the fun parts
Why?

>>715804149
ubisoft philosophy is to pad everything the fuck out

>>715804049
You just know that they added the female option and made it canon out of both spite and free DEI money.

>>715794972 (OP)
Series was ruined the moment I realized it was all le simulation, even E33 doesn't kick you on the balls so hard because at least painted people still have feelings etc.

>>715804549
>Series was ruined the moment I realized it was all le simulation,
so from the beginning then?

>>715804736
Yes.

>>715804549
every single event seen through the animus (minus gameplay specifics) is real though, it's just all in the past
only the nuAC games shit the bed on that front

I'm currently replaying Unity
its so good

Assassin's Creed was lame and boring from the very first entry, the only interesting part was the parkour system and the graphics.

Last one I enjoyed was Syndicate. I need to be in a giant urban metropolis, not running around some empty countryside dotted with little shit villages.

>>715805031
London is great but I hate that the main villain is a fictional character. They dropped the ball on a lot of the historical stuff in that game.

>>715795235
Why did you post a nu Doom pic?

>>715794972 (OP)
All the time memory and ancient ayy lmao bullshit was so goddamn awful.

>>715795476
this game reminded me of PS2 era AA titles in a good way. The puzzles were kind of shit but otherwise not bad with a decent aesthetic. Enemy design was mediocre, though.

>>715795662
any game advertising players/engagement instead of sales is a flop

>>715805602
It was a good BOTW clone.

>>715796976
I still fondly look back on Altiar's changing visits to his peers.

>>715794972 (OP)
>what happened?
Shitting out a game every year like they are magazines to subscribe to didn't help
No time to develop something interesting

>>715794972 (OP)
They made the mysterious ancient civilization not mysterious anymore, and after the whole end of the world plot ended they dropped the ball and solved the Minerva plot outside the main games.

sex with Rebecca

people still play shitassassins creed lmao?

>>715799573
It's not $40 yet so I can't comment. Lowest I've seen it drop is $50 and I don't pay more than $40 for an AC game.

>>715800650
Mirage started the game with a William voiceover and that's it and besides that there was nothing else outside of extremely dry database entries that don't even seem like Shaun was writing them anymore. They also cut an ending in Modern Day where a beacon turns on thanks to the events of it.
Shadows now does its Modern Day stuff through the Helix Store by having you have database entries thrown into it. I forgot what it was called, AC Infinity or something? The hub. Now it's just being told through that side and from what I understand the Isu artifact is mostly passed around during Shadows and mainly a MacGuffin rather than there being a solid focus on the Isu but again, haven't played it yet.

>>715810296
>I don't pay more than $40 for an AC game.
still too much

>>715804049
>Eivor is canon male
So then Odin was female since in-game it straight up tells you there are male and female DNA strands in Eivor. So how did Odin have a son and impregnate people? Was she a futa?
Also, the epilogue forces you to be Eivor, not Odin during it and she speaks to Odin during it even if you picked Havi as your avatar.
I do think it's beyond retarded Eivor is a female though. Same deal with Kass being canon. They're both garbage and don't fit the setting at all.

>>715808862
Calm down Shaun. You need to get her away from the crack pipe.

>>715810867
Agreed, most of them I got for $20 or less. I think the only one I ever paid full price for was 1 back at launch when people here wouldn't stop talking about it, and then $40 for Valhalla which I technically only paid $20 for because I had a gift card.

>>715811020
>I do think it's beyond retarded Eivor is a female though. Same deal with Kass being canon. They're both garbage and don't fit the setting at all.
holy shit, a based tripfag?

>>715811020
what the fuck is that supposed to be 'becca

>>715811240
Yep.

>>715811420
>>715811020
christ, they're really flogging this pathetic attempt at the modern story still?

>>715795662
It's literally the third best selling game of the year so far, don't let culture war faggots fool you.

GODsuke's game made AssCreed kino again.

>>715795662
mega flop

>OMG GUYS THE PLUCKY REBELS WILL WORK TO OVERTHROW THE BIG BAD EMPIRE AND THERES A SECRET PLOT WITH ALIENS WOOOAAAHH OMMMGG THIS IS JUST LIKE MARVEL END GAME!
Nah I'm good.

>>715805634
Then Oblivion Remastered is a flop?

>>715812596
yes

Honestly, Shadows is better than Odyssey, Valhalla and Mirage but worse than Origins, that one will likely remain the best RPG Asscreed for eternity. I just hope they keep the stealth improvements, especially the option to assassinate your target regardless of level bullshit, that was a godsend.

>>715794972 (OP)
Nothing went wrong, the series is still going strong, but it lost its prestige with the release of AC Unity, then Syndicate (very underrated) failed to get people's attention foreshadowed the death of the series.
They made a comeback with Origins but it's responsible for people's modern perception of Asscreed as slop games that are too big, too bloated and only good for historical tourism.
The thing about modern Asscreed games is that they are just good enough to not make you quit outright and the world interesting enough to make you want to explore it and visit all the historical places, so even if you are very critical of the games, and at their core they aren't very good, it's hard to resist.

>>715798738
origins still is the best of the new ones
its not to long, has good and personal story, and has insane attention to the period details
odyssey was too big, and Valhalla was just ass, felt like it was made by 5 studios none of them working together

>>715812596
it probably took more indians than that to make it despite the code already being there

>>715813013
Origins really is great. Lots of care to detail put into that game and it has a great trailer too. I wish they kept Bayek's story instead of jumping around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK4iAjzAoas

>>715794972 (OP)

>Patrice Désilets and Jade Raymond gone after brotherhood.

>Patrice Désilets original story plans scraped and the series premise retcon'd

>Ubisoft makes AC their annual franchise.

>Split dev teams with two different ideas of what the series is.

>Montreal responsible for:

Black Flag
Unity
Origins
Valhalla

>Quebec:

Syndicate
Odyssey
Shadows

Regardless, this is still my guilty pleasure franchise. I play AC2 once a year.

>>715812929
Being better than the worst games in the series isn't exactly an achievement.

>>715795662
I think it did well enough not to flop but not good enough to write home about.

>>715813198
I mean, for me the worst Asscreeds were 1, 3, Syndicate and Valhalla, so Shadows is more like somewhere in the middle if I were to rank them all.

I still think Al-Mualim being the villain is pretty cool.
Did any of the other AC games ever mess around with making the Assassins the bad guys? Is there even an Assassin order?

>Ford Assembly Line: The Studio

>>715813380
Yeah, in the first one the Templars were the ancient conspiracy, the Assassins were just the Hashashin that then became a counter ancient conspiracy to fight the Templars.
I think the new games kinda retconned that way

>>715794972 (OP)
picrel happened
FUCK ubi for
>tossing out all the mystery and intrigue in the 2nd game already, introducing glans penis hat having head ass ancient alien holograms trying to sound mysterious
>tossing out the serious and stoic assassin simulator (with some drama) and fully turning it into a costume drama where people yell and cry and argue (and sometimes assassinate)
>tossing out the sandboxy approach where you choose what missions you want to do before the targets, and replacing it with a railroaded story and unrelated side shit checklist
>and for introducing the fucking uplay launcher and limited edition exclusive dlc

>>715813165
also funny that despite taking place in norther africa, bayed looks nubian/egiptian like hes supposed to
but a AC game in japan? protagonist obviously is subsaharan african
hilarious

>>715813380
AC1 had a really cool story and aesthetics, I just wish the game wasn't as boring and repetitive as it was.

>>715813785
Are they remaking it?

>>715808862
build for Desmond (literally. every single time Ezio had sex, Rebecca had to ride Desmond in order for him to be properly synchronized)

>>715812929
>especially the option to assassinate your target regardless of level bullshit
Ok, maybe I'm gonna pick this game up then, FUCK the level shit ruining the stealth in the other games, it made me not even want to engage with the stealth gameplay like I did with the older games

>>715798518
Rogue is just Black Flag, but as a templar.

>>715813830
They're remaking Black Flag IIRC.

>>715813764
The black guy created such unnecessary drama for their game and I have no idea why they did it. Just a create your own assassin would've been all they needed to do so you don't have to deal with the shitty dual characters they keep doing.

>>715802252
I felt it had the worst parkour. It's so bad I just got frustrated and never beat the game. To many times while I'm trying to run forward Arno would jump on to random shit whether I was holdup parkor up or down. Even on street level if I'm just running forward he'll just jump up on a table or bench or something and just stand there while I mash every button shouting "GET THE FUCK DOWN". I find alot of the problem is I had no idea what I can and cant climb on. I see a wall with vines and a window ledge, well I cant climb that. But Then I find a 20 foot blank flat wall with no hand holds and I can fly up that no problem.

>>715813380
>Did any of the other AC games ever mess around with making the Assassins the bad guys?
Revelations technically had the Assassins destabilize Constantinople. All your targets weren't actually doing anything wrong for Constantinople itself, they just thought the nepotism would have killed the country and Ezio kills a lot of people who arguably would have helped it.
Liberation but only because of Abstergo. As soon as you hack it with Erudito it stops being "Assassins bad".
Rogue but in an extremely retarded way. They just make the Templars saints and the Assassins complete assholes. They are cartoonishly incompetent and refuse to explain anything to Shay or listen to each other. It's why Rogue's story is so awful.
Chronicles: Russia had the Assassins turn against Nikolai and try killing him because he was keeping the box and girl hidden so he betrayed them and took the box and saved the girl from experimentation. I think he killed the entire Russian Assassin Order including his best friend from what I remember of the story.
Origins has the start of the Hidden Ones be extremely slapdash and have no ethos outside of "Kill Order of the Ancients" until Bayek and Aya made the Creed. It led to a lot of people dying because of the Hidden Ones in the Sinai Peninsula.

>>715811020
>So then Odin was female since in-game it straight up tells you there are male and female DNA strands in Eivor
More ubitrannie cope, probably written in at the 11th hour

>>715813914
I'd say it's worth getting on a sale, the stealth is pretty good especially on the expert difficulty where the enemies actually look up and rooftops are no longer those safe areas where you can do whatever you want, you actually have to position yourself properly and use the lighting/shadow system to keep yourself hidden. I even liked the combat as Yasuke despite not being as mechanically complex, sometimes it's fun to be an overpowered fucker.

>>715813710
ALSO fuck ubisoft for starting the trend of
>desynchronized for some arbitrary inconsequential dumb fucking reason lmao and you have to do everything OUR way
in ac2

>>715804978
The beginning is, then you realize the story goes literally no where and none of the potential is realized

>>715801934
>I'll never forgive black flag for being the key game to kill fun parkour.

3 was the game that killed parkour. BF was the inverse of 3, where 70% of the game was ship-oriented and 30% was on-foot.
3 also had just about the exact same boat mechanics, but the focus was on the indian guy doing land-stuff, and finding jaems lee, or jamie lee or whatever.

>>715794972 (OP)
Ubisoft became gay

>wow, I can't wait to break out and climb around the future cityscape in the sequels!

>>715814628
the abstergo labs used to creep me out for some reason

>>715814701
Yeah, well. Everything is monotone white spooky-colored and your holding cell has blood washed off. Plus there was a weird dynamic between having common goals of solving an enticing puzzle and being reminded that your life is in constant danger, because the Abstergo guys weren't messing around

>11 years on and we still have mandated optional female protagonists in every single game
>all because some retard in a suit who didn't even play Unity made up some bullshit about animating women being hard
>instead of just saying that Unity had one set protagonist, and the co-op mode didn't feature an all male cast of unique characters like people were assuming based on the boxart

>>715814628
>Game finally lets you get access to modern weaponry at the end of AC3.
>The pistol reloads like a flintlock.

>>715814024
it was aftermath of the george floyd riots
it was written to star an asian guy during pre production, but when it hit full production at quebec in mids of the BLM riots in 2020 it was shifted to start yasuke, who ironically was then pushed to the side so the chick could be the main protagonist

>>715814346
That was Brotherhood. Nice for optional challenges, but it's retarded to frame it as 'how Ezio actually did it'.

No, I'm fairly certain Ezio would have used a bladed weapon during this mission, Ubisoft.

>>715813974
Rogue isn't quite as fun as Black Flag because being designed for weaker hardware meant that the ocean map had to be divided up into these smaller sections with narrow choke points splitting them up. It's not quite as bad on the atlantic map but the river valley environment really sucks to sail around in because everything is so narrow and I was dreading every time the story brought me back to it. I guess the trade off is that you can get off your ship and explore more seamlessly than in Black Flag but there isn't really much point to it unless you really love running around the empty wilderness and shooting wolves.

>>715815030
pushing female playable characters when most players still play as male

>>715815126
>being designed for weaker hardware meant that the ocean map had to be divided up into these smaller sections with narrow choke points splitting them up
Dude, Black Flag was a PS3 and 360 game that got ported to PS4 and Xbone. It has nothing to do with the hardware, they just designed it that way.

>>715815109
I clearly remember ac2 being guilty of this, one of the most egregious examples is Savonarola's lieutenant from the Bonfire of Vanities DLC on the ship, you got to remember that one bro

>>715795192
>changing the events of the ending
But then you'd just desync and go back to the checkpoint

>>715808862
big hacker tomboy tities

>>715815157
still with the drama it was probably a good decision
but delaying the game for a half a year in which they probably cut missions and remade others is pretty questionable

>>715815269
Oh ya, that was and still is a fucking pain. Just hanging off the side of the boat for 5 minutes

>>715811946
>IT DIDNT FLOP
>sales figures?
>FUCK YOI CHUD
Don’t you have a delta rune thread to delete faggot.

Two things. First they stopped the "Schizo Conspiracy" angle and then they made modern day stopped being relevant, which made things feel disjointed and aimless.
"The Modern Day" plotline after 3, even up to the latest entry Shadows, felt like a "yeah yeah let's get this over with", something they have to briefly acknowledge it exists because they're obligated to, like a divorced dad to an unwanted child.
First was the unnamed employee in BF/R, the "hello player bye" of Unity and Syndicate and the half-hearted attempt of a new story in Origins/Odyssey/Valhalla.
It honestly feels they kinda regret having one in the first place given how directionless everything was.

>>715794972 (OP)
>what happened?
Key people behind the franchise left. That's ALWAYS the answer.

>>715794972 (OP)
The story was predicated on being mysterious and leaving you wanting. The more questions they answered, the less interesting it became as well as how every game ended on another cliffhanger.

>series gets too popular for its own good
>suits want more sequels asap
>old devs leave to go make original projects
>suits hire code monkeys
>series quality drops like a rock
every western franchise

>matchmaking in Unity is faster now than at launch
Funny how people are just going back to the last proper game in the series

>>715815421
>It honestly feels they kinda regret having one in the first place given how directionless everything was.
More like they regret killing Desmond because now he's functionally back as an Animus ghost and you can point to his death as the major turning point where many things went wrong in the overarching story.

give me ac 1-4 remade in the newest ac engine

>According to Nolan North, the original plan for Desmond's story was that he would appear in six games, using the Animus to acquire the skills of each of his ancestors. By the last game, he would have eventually become "the ultimate Assassin" and be able to time travel back and forth into different eras

I have no idea how Ubisoft managed to fuck up this entire series so badly. This is an example of one of the most wasted potentials in anything ever

>>715815402
Ubisoft doesn't disclose sales figures, just like Bethesda, EA and other corpos. Valhalla's sales figures were also never disclosed, yet that was the most successful game in the entire series. It's better to just admit you faggots don't actually have any power to make games succeed or flop, and the ones that did were obviously going to because they failed to attract the normalfags who actually give companies money.

>>715815604
Red and blue haired whales is the answer

>>715815623
>Ubisoft doesn't disclose sales figures
So you don’t know and you’re just talking out of your ass.

>>715815604
Yeah it was clear they were going for the modern world assassin game based on the bleeding effect where you play as desmon in AC2

>>715815778
I know because I actually did research on that, it was the same thing with Valhalla and Odyssey, they only talked about player engagement and that it "sold more copies than (previous best seller)" . Whatever specific number in regards to copies sold was always estimates made by analysts, not officially disclosed data.

>>715794972 (OP)
it was never good you fucking faggot. even pirates of the caribbean was better than the original ass creed

>>715815778
ubishit is out of money. they can't sell anything to keep them afloat. Hopefully they'll drown soon

>>715815385
ubi just kept gutting all player expression in the series with each entry
>ac1 you get desynchronized if you die or kill too many civvies but free to do as you wish
>ac2 added mission specific desync triggers
>brohood added those 100% sync requirements
>ac3 made it so there are MULTIPLE sync requirements to pay attention to now
all the way till Origins, where they finally got rid of that nonsense (but places are level gated now lmao and you can't assassinate a guy if he's too high lvl)
chrissake the design decisions in this series keep pissing me off but I come back to my 100% saves as a guilty pleasure cause traversing the locations and the fluid parkour are legit some of the most awesome things in vidya, and it's hard to find something to fill that niche

>>715816525
For me it's the control schemes they can't stop changing. Going from Rogue to Unity was a hurdle, and then Syndicate changes like half the bindings. Then you get to Origins and the entire button binds are nothing close to what they just were, and Odyssey onward aren't even recognizable anymore. I actively had to find people who did classic rebindings and rebind the controls to the older control schemes because the new control scheme sucks ass.

fuck odyssey giving you 50 skills and no shields

>>715815604
>official concept art for AC3

it always hurts knowing what could've been

>>715817167
that looks terrible and it just looks like watchdogs.Speaking of, was that not supposed to be the modern AC game?

>>715817025
that too holy shit, plus actions becoming contextual
my character reasonably did what I wanted in ac1 to Revelations, and I felt like my inputs were becoming sort of like a suggestion by Syndicate, the character doing what I wanted maybe 80% of the time
noticed it in Black Flag first, when high profile and run were one and the same button so Ed kept launching himself onto or off of masts

>>715817345
Semi-related but Watch Dogs would be billion times better (arguably still not really good but at least decent) if you could only carry small arms on you and any large weapons have to be either picked up from enemies or from your vehicle and can only be either dropped on the ground or put in a vehicle again afterwards.
It really should have been about using quick thinking and hacks at your disposal with limited firepower otherwise, instead you can just bring a fucking grenade launcher everywhere.

>>715817494
Can't count the number of times I died in BF because Edward didn't enter combat mode after ziplining up to the top of a mast and then getting shoved right back down

>>715816181
You didn’t do shit, you don’t know the sales figures and you’re just saying it’s successful because you need to. Are you doing this for free or are you paid?
>Whatever specific number in regards to copies sold was always estimates made by analysts, not officially disclosed data
Aka they lied about it to try to appease the investors

>>715796294
reminds me of crysis were Nomad died in some fucking comic and we had to play as some unknown mexican grunt in crysis 2.

>>715817934
>culture war retards spam shitpost threads about yasuke every day for the entire year leading up to release
>based mod uses the red text once as a joke
>eternally butthurt schizo retards cry about it for months

>>715817934
You need to separate your wishful thinking from what's actually happening, Oblivion Remaster also didn't have its sales numbers disclosed, yet it's consistently appearing among the top sellers of the year just like ACS. Ubisoft is having financial troubles because of their fuck ups from the last few years, but they explicitly stated Shadows was the bright spot in an otherwise challenging period and has been performing better than Odyssey did in the same amount of time, it's pretty obvious that it's doing well. I'm not being paid to say anything, I'm just being objective about the subject.

Assassins Creed 2 and Brotherhood had little bits of tits and ass making them wildly popular among 15-16 year olds. But then Witcher 2, GTA V etc upped the amount of sexuality while Ass Creed actually reduced it to make it more palatable to a wider audience. Problem is, they had already fired most of the narrative guys who'd made 1 a hit without tits, and the new writers couldn't even manage safe horny. And along the way the franchise lost its identity and became a generic open world game like Far Cry/Watch Dogs except with swords instead of guns.

did he consume hashish

>>715819783
AC origins had some boobs too.

>>715794972 (OP)
I was really into Assassin's Creed up until Revelations
Stopped playing because I thought it was peak.
Is it worth playing the ones that came after that or no anons?

My buddy was stoked for Shadows up until he learned about Yaskuke, dude was so fucking butthurt lol

He was half Japanese and kinda felt bad for him but it serves em right for their unprovoked aggression, two nukes wasn't enough

>>715821620
It was kind of funny how they spit all over asians to score points with blacks

>>715821579
Black Flag, Origins and Odyssey are the best ones post Ezio and if you had to play any of them, I'd recommend Black Flag and Origins. The others are hit and miss.

>>715821579
Syndicate, Odyssey, and Valhalla are the only truly bad games of the lot, everything else has mostly been fine outside of Rogue's story. If you approach Odyssey as it not being an AC game it works out better, but as an AC game it's complete ass.

>>715822043
>Odyssey
>bad
shame on you

>>715822097
>Has some of the worst character writing this side of Eivor and Shay with The Eagle Bearer randomly going against their beliefs over and over again and it making zero sense.
>The entire Cult is underdeveloped. Like 90% of them are nothing more than a glorified mercenary description and the leader of it only appears like once in the entire game up until the point you reveal them yet the game acts like it's super shocking despite you barely having a clue who the character even is.
>Unless you play on the easiest difficulties you can't assassinate people without full on speccing into the Assassin tree, and even if you do you need to land a Critical Assassinate AND a crit in order to kill yellow named enemies maybe 30% of the time. The rest of the time you alert everyone around you from the stab.
>Have to run a glass cannon build that dies in two hits if you want to assassinate mercenaries at all.
>The mercenary system is terrible and leads to either nonstop mercs coming after you raising your wanted level if you get noticed in a camp, or telepaths that know exactly where you are and patrol where you are nonstop.
>The Diablo Loot system is complete garbage and ruins the gameplay by forcing you into builds when the AC series was never and should never be about that which is why Valhalla, Mirage, and Shadows did a 180 on it immediately.
>There is so much content reuse it's insane and you will see the exact same sanctuaries over and over again or the exact same forts over and over again with the leopard cage on one end and an elevated area on the other.
>Randomly generated events are in such limited scope that you literally see them pop in in front of you and are never worth doing.
>The EXP distribution is obscenely terrible and the only way to get good EXP at all is by picking the non-timed bounty board missions and completing them because they give a % rate of EXP.
>Tombs aren't even unique anymore, they're all snake mazes.
It's one of the worst AC games.

I liked Shadows, was the first time I had fun with AssCreed since Origins.

>>715824281
What was the story like? From what I’ve read it seems to have been a fucking mess
>>715823036
Fair. It’s not a good AC game but it’s an enjoyable game but I am a Greekaboo so I have my biases.

I'm enjoying AC Valhalla. I honestly don't get the hate. I'll try AC Floyd next.

>>715822097
Yes Odyssey was shit, people just have a hardon for ancient greece and gave it a pass. Valhalla was actually a lot better with multiple factions, britons, saxons, vikings, picts, irish, fighting for political control, even if the main character was pretty dull. People just zoned out because it was long.

>>715824716
My issue with it was that it was just so boring and big. It felt like I was getting nowhere as it was constant big zone after big zone. I also had Viking/Norse fatigue.

>>715824716
>I honestly don't get the hate.
It's mainly that what you've seen in the first 10ish hours of England never changes and while there's some solid areas and the combat is fun, it's absurdly easy. The further into the game you get the more unkillable and broken you get even with the highest difficulty and enemies +50 your level. It's honestly insane. Eivor also is so poorly written and unlikable.

>>715817914
in watchdogs 2 hack only playthroughs almost get you there

>>715794972 (OP)

They sacked the creatives who had a plan for the series and decided they didn't want the money train to stop. So they just milked it with new settings and historical locales over and over and over until it became a pale shadow of what it once was a decade ago.

>>715819783
>had little bits of tits and ass
fucking microscopic tits and ass
what is that bath scene in brotherhood? like all of 2 seconds

1 is still the best

>>715825906
honestly i think with one more year of development they could have perfected the gameplay style.

>>715794972 (OP)
>Set up a whole big thing with Juno in Black Flag
>End her story in a comic book

I swear to Christ if I had a genie wish it would be that comic books turn everyone who reads them into completely unfuckable lose- hey wait a minute

>>715812596
>Then Oblivion Remastered is a flop?
Anon, if you make a product and everyone experiences it through the PRODUCT ENJOYMENT PLAN where they pay someone else rather than paying you directly, did you make any money?

>first game
>best game
many such cases

>>715794972 (OP)
>all the people in the thread upset over Desmond being killed
based
i found myself as one of those fags who liked the modern day segments more than past ones, so hearing that he died and that the modern storyline basically goes no where had made me stop giving a fuck about AC as a franchise
why even introduce something as great as experiencing your past ancestors lives as a cool assassin only to drop it is beyond me

>>715824574
The story has the same messy open-ended structure from Mirage after the prologue with you being able to kill whatever target in any order you want, meaning most of the stories surrounding the targets are self-contained while the main plot grinds to a halt until you're done with them.

>>715796567
I played it once like 15 years ago but the only thing i remember about brotherhood was the start for some reason
Ezio just finished having sex and someone shoots a cannon ball straight to his house and hit the ultimate assassin armor from the end game of AC2 so they had an excuse to reset all your HP lorewise

>>715814628
Man i remember finishing this game and going into online forums to talk about all the crazy theories about the ending

I liked the multiplayer in Brotherhood

>>715814628
You go outside in the sequel

>>715824716
Shadows is basically a smaller Valhalla with better stealth.

>>715815623
>Ubisoft doesn't disclose sales figures
I know Ubisoft is run by homosexual frogs, but isn't that illegal in burgerland.

>>715828457
It's illegal if they don't disclose the sales to investors, but disclosing publicly has always been something for the company to decide.

>>715794972 (OP)
3, the off-ramp that they blew past, happened.

>>715795072
Also this. Ezio trilogy is the Pinaccle of the series. It's been nowhere but down after that.

>>715827963
Same. All the cool conspiracies as well like the moon landings were funded by templars to get a piece of Eden from the moon or all the paintings showing random artifscts hidden within them. As always, the hype and speculation is always more fun than realty.

>>715795662
>Magical Negro game where he's able to speak Nipponese and read Latin perfectly with no explination given to either.
>Flopped.
Yes, no wonder too. Nobody wanted the historical nagger that doesn't factor into anything but 10% of the game.

>>715812596
Literally yes you retard

Is there any explanation for Yasuke understanding japanese from the start?

>>715828867
He's hallucinating while in convulsions on the New York subway, the whole game takes place in his head

This is a thread that started with
>assassins creed used to be kino af
and instead of the OP being immediately banned or everyone mocking his underage faggotry, he got genuine replies. Permaban zoomers.

>>715795834
>Not to mention that one schizo puzzle in the Ezio trilogy confirmed that the templars backed the Allies in WW2,
Wait, what?

>>715828867
IIRC they mention that wasn't the first time they went to Japan with him, maybe he learned some basic nip speech from seeing the jesuits interacting with the locals. He didn't know how to write in japanese though, since he's shown learning caligraphy from his sensei in the flashbacks.

>>715828753
You're mistaking the latin part, it's Frois who can read it, Yasuke takes a letter written in latin for him to read and tell him what's in it.

>>715799406
Sorry, CHUD-san, the only canon female in Ass Crus is Naoe and that's only because the Magical Nagger doesn't even factor into his "historically accurate" game.

Today I will remind them that Alexios is the canon option for 99% of the playerbase: https://www.destructoid.com/assassins-creed-odyssey-director-surprised-at-alexios-kassandra-usage-split/

>Phillips notes that although the split ended up being “two third Alexios” and “one third Kassandra,” that number actually “surprised” him. He clarifies that during play tests the split was roughly 50/50, and that in the end he even though that there would be “a little bit more Kassandra.”

>Players prefer the men in Ass Creed to the point that
>Ubisoft made the Mary Sue female the 10,000+ year old immortal with a Piece of Eden keeping her (him) alive for the entire series until the Layla takes it.
>Immediately dies no longer having it
>Players still choose male even in the Viking game where they try to canon (they're not) Evior into female (he's male)
>Finally exasperated and nearly bankrupt
>Ubisoft makes the "in case of emergency; break weeb" game.
>Force a nagger
>Suddenly everyone plays their (now canon) female.
Sasuga, Ubi-san.

>>715828269
Honestly, I never would've thought multiplayer would work with AC but it was the shit.
I miss me and the bros stunlocking my pursuers.

>>715817167
Fuck yes

>>715828269
>>715829549
It was good shit. I used to enjoy playing as the harlequin blending in crowds, stabbing someone running past me and then going back into the crowd performing.

>>715814214
Don't forget Shadows had the Ikki not even be an order because Naoe's (spoilers for anyone that cares) mother "died" (we won't know the fate until the DLC and it's 90% likely Ubisoft won't fake out and will actually keep her alive) when the not-Templars Templars attacked Iga for the boxes of Japan's artifacts that aren't pieces of Eden (or are they!?) that was given to the mother and the Assassin that came to Japan. Technically, that event kicks off the warring (IIRC) that Edo period and feudal Japan's closed-borders civil war of the Daimyo's happened.

Ironically, it's *YASUKE* of all people that finds out about the Templars being in Japan (because they come from... Portugal? Italy via Protugal? Forgetting the origins of his slave trade route) and only a temporary mention.

>>715814024
He's not even relevant to the game outside of 10% of the story. You can play Naoe for 80% of the game and outside of an "oh shit, we have nothing relevant to AssCreed (Assassin's/Templar mentions) we need to cobble something together quick!", Yasuke could've been entirely removed but they were already sunk-costed with the blowback on him to where if they removed it "da CHUDs won!" and they couldn't have that.

They could've made a Japanese Samurai under Nobunaga like Yasuke and nothing would've really changed the story beyond one story beat for Yasuke and that's his slave history and it trying into like 2 characters maximum.

>>715795649
Don't forget to mention that they fucked him, he left but then they bought the company he worked for just to fuck him over again.

>>715795662
I will get it, bros...

>>715829778
For me it's best girl.

>>715797892
Black flag was a fine game. It's just that the best parts of it were about being pirate and the worst parts of it were....assassin's creed.

>>715794972 (OP)
>invoke all kinds of Christian artifacts and imagery
>No actually it's some ancient Mesopotamian gnosticism bullshit

>>715826980
Truthnuke

>>715812929
>better than
>Mirage
Nagga, nani?!

Mirage is the high watermark for post-Batham/Witcher 3 era AssCreed and that's because it knows the series is a weekend rental and you can blow through the campaign in less than 40 hours.

Series fans highly regard that one as the best of the Witcher 3 AssCreeds and it's BECAUSE it's not an RPG.

>>715811572
Not in Shadows. There is no Animus breaks in that one. It's the first one in the series that BARELY mentions the Assassin's/Templars.

I unironically really liked Syndicate. Love the city and the train base. And the DLC is kino.

>>715795662
ubisoft already go mostly bought by tencent. It's assassover.

>>715798697
Jade was only there to give him "moral support," and so they could advertise it as Jade's game.

>>715795834
So play as a Nazi then. Maybe include a minigame where you recruit 6 million new assassins in just 5 years while dealing with a shortage of manpower.

>>715798196
>People overwhelmingly loved the pirate game
Yes, which is the problem.

>Skull and Bones was supposed to be the game for everyone that wanted more shitty Ship-to-Ship combat
>Took Ubisoft TEN (10) YEARS to even shit out
>Three console generations came and went
>Only for it to flop
>Long past when Pirate's Yo-ho-ho happened

>>715797892 is right, AC4 killed the franchise if 3 already didn't.

>>715830638
None of the religions are real in the AC universe, it was never about focusing on one specific religion like Christianity. Christianity was simply at the forefront because it was the dominant religion in an enormous amount of time period and still is to this day. It's all just random people using Pieces of Eden and being viewed as gods/God, or just people seeing Isu and thinking they're holy or godlike beings. The point of showing Christian artifacts is the same as showing Norse artifacts: they're there to show you how these people used magical things to build their religions or were misunderstood as holy beings when they were just normal people.

Moses for example used a Staff of Eden to part the Red Sea, it wasn't God doing it.
Jesus was using the Shroud of Eden to perform his healing miracles.
The entire Egyptian, Norse, and Greek pantheons were just Isu subjugating humanity.
The various myths like the Cyclops, Minotaur, or Medusa were just Aita using a bunch of human corpses animated by an Apple to guard Isu vaults.

It's meant to be an explanation of how the religions formed in the AC universe and how it was all just random people who found a high technology object leading people to believe they were divine. It's one of the very interesting parts of the series because of how it upends the beliefs we have in our lives and looks at them in a different way. If I remember right even the Isu believe in some sort of religion.

>>715799457
Females are physically and intellectually inferior to men their role is to bear children and ensure the survival of our species.

>Black Flag
>Brotherhood
>Origins
>AC2
>Revelations
>Rogue
>Shadows
>Unity
>Odyssey
>AC1
>Valhalla
>Syndicate
>AC3
This is the objective ranking of the mainline AssCreed games.

>>715794972 (OP)
>assassins creed used to be kino
Lmaoing @ your life

>my gacha is having an assassin's Creed Collab
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>715829502
They should have just had the balls to make Evie the lone protagonist in Syndicate or Aya in Origins like they wanted to. Nobody actually gives a shit about playing as a woman if it's the only option and they want to play the game.

>>715794972 (OP)
They killed Desmond.

>>715831593
AC3 is underrated

>>715828967
>waaah people arent allowed to enjoy this
go back to your shitty fightan games and final fantasy gramps

>>715831593
>origins and odyssey above 1
>shadows above anything

>>715828574
odyssey is kino

>>715799925
>>715800891
post tits

>>715796059
>desmond's black daughter

seriously? i just got through revelations and thought i would want to continue.. think i will pass

>>715832079
read the conversation to the end before you open your mouth you fucking retarded monkey

>>715831593
>Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
>Assassin's Creed II
>Assassin's Creed: Revalations
>Assassin's Creed
>Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
>Assassin's Creed III

>Literal shit

>All the others

>>715815157
I blame "female" gamers that bitched about there being no women in the series and Ubisoft for stepping on that rake with "they're hard to animate" for that bullshit. They finally capitulate and nobody wants to play them beyond a tiny minority to where it took them forcing a black guy onto players for players to finally play a woman assassin.

>>715831593

>>715832290
You're a gigafaggot zoomer

>>715832128
true i should have done that but it isn't like ubisoft isn't a subhuman loving bankrupt eurotrash developer so there bitch!

nyah!

>>715815421
>It honestly feels they kinda regret having one in the first place given how directionless everything was.
3's ending is where Patrice wanted the series to end (especially because he was tired of being Core Designed/assembly line). Killing Desmond off made sense.

Ever since, Ubisoft had to try to add more shit post-2012 with Juno (who dies off screen/in a comic book like 343's Halo lore bullshit) who gets ignored after like 2 games to then reboot with a not-Desmond/Templar, Abstergo girl that turns into an Assassin only for Ubisoft to then throw in the towel and go "ok, whiners: you win, nobody gives a fuck about the story apparently so we're just going to do historical drama for you" with Shadows.

As soon as I finished Shadows I was like "yeah, I'm totally done with the series." The only reason I came back and finished Valhalla (bloated as fuck) and Mirage (great) was because they finally were doing Japan.

And they fucked that up and give nothing for the cliffhangers that Mirage and Valhalla had with Basim. So fuck them.

Knowing Ubisoft, it'll be mentioned in the Netflix or whatever series and never mentioned in the games.

>>715794972 (OP)
Legit the plot kind of lost itself after 3. I expected the games to build off 4 but they just didn't.

>>715821579
3 (because that's the true end for the series from the creator), 4 (if you like pirates), Oddy (if you like Witcher 3), and Mirage are the only ones worth playing.

Unity's only kino moment is when you go WW1-WW2 with the animus glitching, but that's a set piece and not worth all the bugs/issues it has even if Paris was nice to wander around in and had the ability to move through buildings (something they sort of dropped after).

>>715823036
>>The EXP distribution is obscenely terrible and the only way to get good EXP at all is by picking the non-timed bounty board missions and completing them because they give a % rate of EXP.
Or if you're on PC: Cheat Engine the rate to 2XP/normal value because Ubisoft in their infinite retardation thought players were going to buy EXP boosters for a fucking singleplayer RPG.

>>715824574
>What was the story like?
It's Naoe's world, YASSSuke is just living in it.

None of it matters, literally. Until the final like 5-20 hours where you do "story specific" stuff for Naoe (the Assassin's Side) and Yasuke (the Templar mentions) and that's it.

You could remove the name "Assassin's Creed" from it and nothing would've mattered for the I.P. story wise.

>>715831593
>>715832290
Hm, I think I'm going to say:
>AC2
Mostly a better version of 1. Goes in a different direction than I'd like, but still pretty good. So-so story with good story beats.
>Brotherhood
Brought up by the multiplayer.
>Origins
Generic gameplay brought up by its map, main character, and details.
>AC1
Way better than the sum of its parts, but harder to appreciate. My personal favorite.
>Black Flag
Pretty fucking good pirate game. I could never play it again.
>Rogue
Just a worse version of Black Flag, but still okay.
>Unity
Some good, quite a bit of bad.
>AC3
Little good, a lot of bad. I've thought a lot about this game because it's such an oddity.
>Mirage
Never again. Jesus Christ.

>>715824716
It's bloated, massively. Story becomes a complete slog and with 4 DLC even worse.

In a better world where someone as smart as me was in charge of Assassin's Creed III's production, the game would have nixed Frontier in favor of Boston, New York, and New Orleans, the Aquila would serve as a base of operations for Connor instead of the Homestead, the underground would be a proper network that you would make use of frequently when high notoriety, and you could actually die. Lot of other shit to fix too, but these are the basics.

>>715832290
Liberation was surprisingly good.
After going for 100% completion in the new games and feeling the burnout, I appreciated how condensed it was. It's honestly a better version of AC3, gameplay and pacing-wise. Story-wise it's okay.
>>715834435
Seeing a Connor cameo in the game was a nice touch

Same has Halo 2
Normalfags don't like aliens

>>715821747
I literally laughed out loud when I first played as Yasuke. He's like twice as tall as regular npcs, and he doesn't just burst through wooden doors, he shatters them into splinters just like the paper walls.

I literally said "watching gonna do, riceboy" after every kill in the prologue. It seems like parody, but all the overweight liberal white women at Ubisoft were dead serious, which makes it even funnier

>>715834926
Liberation story is ass but I agree on the gameplay. It was a nice little game

>>715835029
I always thought Yasuke being a protagonist was just stupid silly, but in retrospect I'm now just shocked that anyone thought it was enough idea to even suggest it.

>>715794972 (OP)
black flag is the apex of the series

I will have to say, unity feels like they *tried* to go back to their roots..

>>715815126
>being designed for weaker hardware
im pretty sure blacked flag was also a ps3 game and it had no problem running on that (i think)

>>715828574
>It's been nowhere but down after that.
3 was down but Black flag was up

>>715796976
>nothing is real everything is permitted....except its le nuanced!
boy you'll have a blast when you decide to read a fucking book

>people say BF is the best
>the only thing its got going for it is the naval combat
>story is shit
>combat is shit
>parkour is shit
>the buildings to parkour on are shit
if we're judging the games overall in terms of quality, Unity in its current state is so far above the rest its not even funny

>>715835029
>>715835986
Who the fuck said assassins have to be stealthy? or even subtle for that matter

Oda died to an assassination, and they killed him by burning down the temple he was in

>>715794972 (OP)
Newfags won't know that in this screenshot, Juno is looking at the player, not the Player Character. She's looking right into the camera and saying "I know what this is and I need to talk to the person who is really in charge." I stopped playing after AC3, but you'll never convince me that THIS isn't the peak of the series.

Also, can someone explain to me how they made rapacious Swedes into the good guys in AC Valhalla? As someone with an Irish last name and blond hair, I'd really really like to know.

anyone that praises rpg asscreed should be hanged automatically

>>715838017
Because thematically, Assassins are people who don't play by the rules and are shunned by polite society, so they exist in the shadows and on the periphery of society.

Templars are supposed to be more "average folk" in their theming so someone striding through society opening and obviously is more a Templar thing.

>>715838068
>she just starts talking to desmond out of nowhere
>Ezio has no idea what the fuck is going on, he cant see Desmond
>later remembers this and tries to talk to desmond directly too
it was Kino beyond compare

>>715838068
>can someone explain to me how they made rapacious Swedes into the good guys in AC Valhalla
Simple, they didn't. The Vikings who invaded England came from Denmark, but as Vinland Saga pointed out the Anglo-saxons themselves are invaders

ubisoft montreal AC > ubisoft quebec AC

>>715838245
>Its ok that we burned down this abbey and killed all these monks and nuns because they're not indigenous
???

>>715838193
Fair point but any thematically storytelling the franchise had was dead long before Shadows.
>so they exist in the shadows and on the periphery of society.
And blends in perfectly with everyone wherever they go

>>715794972 (OP)
AC died with Desmond
and that is well known
anyone that says otherwise is COPING and a FAGGOT
Unity was solid thoughbeit (once it was patched)

>>715838358
>AC died with Desmond
it is known

>>715838330
>Fair point but any thematically storytelling the franchise had was dead long before Shadows.
With that kind of thinking, you'll soon forget what they stole from you. Remember >>715838068 and >>715838212

>>715794972 (OP)
The moment they killed off Desmond and turned AssCreed into some money-making machine that crashed and burned with Shadows.

>>715795662
So much so that Ubi sold 25% of themselves to Tencent.

>>715837885
>>people say BF is the best
only retarded non-AC fags say that
it attracted so many retards because it was
>le next gen and le pirates
i still hate that fucking game so much
first they lied in the trailer saying
>Edward a pirate trained by assassins
which is false, Edward doesnt really even become an assassin until the end of the game
and the entire story of blackfag is so shit and boring, some locations look nice, but most of the game is on a boat, its a pirate game, not an AC game
>if we're judging the games overall in terms of quality, Unity in its current state is so far above the rest its not even funny
true, its currently the best modern AC game you can play
though I still prefer Ezio and Altair games over others

>>715838328
Surprise surprise, nobody is a good guy. You're not suggest that it was OK for the Anglo-Saxons to invade Britannia are you?
>>715838423
I haven't even played Revelations, been meaning too. Brotherhood was my last game
>With that kind of thinking
Yes do tell me about the stealthy pirate ship raiding the high seas. How about the stealthy Greek warrior walking around in plate armour?

>>715794972 (OP)
They realized they had nowhere to go with their bigger plot idea, and then took it from "hey historical intrigue and mystery exploration" to "okay lets forget most of that, it's all about historical theme parks and a templar happens to be bad". Like yeah that was there already with AC2 and 3 to a degree, and the modern day stuff was never great, but the instant they wound back that tether and dropped shit entirely for a while was about the same exact moment the series got Ubisoft-sloppified.

>kassandra never shows up in the Japan game
missed opportunity

>>715831850
heya hoya my native friend, im chief beer from the liquor store

>>715815421
>>715815571
>>715833026
>More like they regret killing Desmond
thing is they could've EASILY retconned Desmond's death in like one or two games after AC3
make it so that he was stuck in animus and the death was just a vision/animus fucking with his head
and boom you still have a main character who could've grown to be an insanely OP Assassin and where you eventually go into modern day with him as the leader and fuck shit up at abstergo
but none of them were competent enough to do that shit

>>715838887
black flag is good exactly because it ditches all the dumbass asscreed garbage nobody cares about

I love that the first thing you do is kill a faggot assassin and steal his gear, clearly sent a message to all asscreed bootlickers
>b-but he was betraying them and giving the templars the maps
speaks volumes about the "creed" lol lmao what losers

>>715829585
>maybe you should try getting a job

>>715839498
prime example of a non-ac faggot who likes pirates
>pirates were mostly gay
so that explains why you like them so much

>>715839384
Valhalla introduced a character in the Animus who is speculated to be Desmond. Don't know if Shadows did anything with that.

seems few of you retards understand that assassins were part of the national socialist party on WW2 and that's why they had to do all kinds of shenanigans to not get there and dismantle whatever plot there was going on between assassins and (((templars)))

>>715839670
too late
the story is beyond fucked at this point
AC games became call of duty-fied and story went to utter shit because of it
they canned cool shit and proper story like >>715817167
>>715829585
for yearly slop so fuck them

>>715799387
This is the correct answer, but it shows that the series has a bigger problem now. They fucked up the modern portion of the games so hard that they have no solid foundation to fall back on to.
Its almost like removing the original writers with an actual vision and concept for how the story should progress basically kills the series.
Its telling that peoples fav entry past the original trilogy is the pirate game that just ditched the assassins shit entirely

>>715831593
>>715832290
>>715832203
tastless faggots all of you
>ACII
>Revelations
>AC1
>Brotherhood
>Unity
>AC3
>Literal shit
>All the others
>Black Fag

The protag of the first game looked exactly like Adam Sandler

Origins really was the perfect of the modern AC's
Odyssey was too big, I uninstalled it twice and still haven't finished
Never tried Valhalla
Shadows feels like it has too little content although I'm still only like 10 hours in. I really don't like that viewpoints don't fill out the map anymore

>>715833026
How bad is Shadows?

I didn’t know these generic games had a storyline

>>715794972 (OP)
They let pajeets and feminist make games

>>715830528
CUTE!

>>715797892
I agree. I've been replaying the games in release order, currently on Unity, and with BF it felt like the identity was lost. Several times I had to remind myself, oh yeah, this is AC I guess. Revelations was the last true AC for me. That ending is pure kino and hasn't been matched since. Fuck the RPG games.

Black Flag is the best AssCreed by far, they tried to replicate it with Rogue but being a smaller side-game ended up hurting it.

>>715831593
>>715832290
>Origins on high positions
Based

>>715795398
Arguably Revelations killed the hype momentum, AC3 is more of a coup de grace. There are good AC games once in a while after that but it's clear that people stopped caring about the series as a whole and they'd rather go for the wacky parkour in specific historic settings they want to see.

>>715794972 (OP)
what the fuck is even happening with the old gods storylines post AC3. i found this shit so interesting and intriguing in the ezio trilogy. I never finished 3 onwards, but i see absolutely 0 mention of this shit now. I watched my housemate play Odyssey during COVID and it pretty much seemed like they are just implying now that the Greek Pantheon actually existed and were the gods from 2???

I like that Shadows sorta brought back the moral ambiguity surrounding the targets that AC1 had, some of them are evil pricks with little motivation beyond wanting power, but others like the Ox, the Mourner, the Fox and the Noble had fairly understandable motivations for doing what they did.

>>715815291
The end of Valhalla revealed that Desmond's mind had been reconstructed and was looking at all possible timelines after the point in which he chose to save the world. Layla pitched the idea to him to look into alternative timelines in which Desmond chose to let the world end as well.

>>715846109
77 thousand years ago a race called the Isu ruled earth and had humans as slaves. A disaster happened, they were wiped out and humans inherited the earth. The overall plot of the series is humans finding and using Isu tech to become more powerful, the pieces of eden, while the Isu are manipulating things from beyond the grave in an attempt to resurrect or reverse the disaster. The Isu being remembered and understood as race memories of various human gods.

ubisoft tacks on a little more of this contrived plot for every installment, usually retconning something, and it only gets more confusing.