Which one was better, Alan Wake 2 or SH2R?

AW2 by a lot

>>715923914 (OP)
>playing remakes
couldnt be me

>>715923914 (OP)
The Evil Within 2

>>715923914 (OP)
>remake or new thing

As bad as Control 1 was and how lame Remedy is as a studio, I gotta give it to AW2.

AW2 starts at a 4/10 climbs to a 9 then meanders to a 6 by the end
Didn't play SH2 remake, is it worth it if I didn't play the original?

>>715923914 (OP)
Silent Hill 2 Remake and it's not even debatable. Alan Wake 2s "gameplay" is dogshit

>>715924062
Cuntrol had better gameplay than Anal Wake 2.
Random upgrades were ass but other than that?
I finished both games.

>>715924117
>Didn't play SH2 remake, is it worth it if I didn't play the original?
Absolutely. I'd recommend playing the original first though.

Alan wake 2 alan sections was more engaging than most of silent hill .

Sagas stuff is pure crap

>>715924221
Never had a chance on ps2, then got my head bitten off for asking if the ps3 port was worth it
Then when I was on a ps2 emulator it had a fucking panic attack try to run SH2 for some reason

Any way to play the original nowadays without an emulator?

>>715924349
SH2 EE, its a big community patch and overhaul for the PC port of SH2 which does great stuff. Grab SH2 from abandonware and then grab SH2EE.

anything is better than alan wake 2
sami jarvi stop trying to be kojima you fucking idiot

>>715924286
I gave Saga a chance because I knew that angry white man comment was taken out of context but holy fuck she was boring
I preferred her sections over Alan because they were more grounded in reality but imagine discovering you're related to reality bending viking rockstars and barely fucking reacting

Dogshit character

>>715923914 (OP)
>struggling to choose between drinking piss and eating shit
America's favorite

>>715923914 (OP)
Alan Wake 2. The combat in SH2 remake is awful. I'm not a fan of these third person melee systems.

Is the original Alan Wake and American Nightmare still worth playing or should I just skip them

>>715924502
Really have to wonder why they threw that in there. It was completely out of character. I didn't mind how she reacted to events because that part of her nature was part of her character and super natural ability. I also really appreciated having a cast of characters who took things seriously and didn't turn everything into gotcha's and quips.

My third option is to wait for Persona 3 Reload to get into sales again and stay on my favourite genre

what do you guys think?

>>715923914 (OP)
combat in sh2 remake was dogshit. it was also padded out too much.

>>715924730
Worth playing. They cost like a dollar too on key websites.

>>715924798
There's a difference between keeping your cool as a detective in stressful situations and basically ignoring the fact you've found new relatives, especially with her strong emphasis on family like her daughter
Also while I liked the TV presenter for Alan I couldn't help but shake the fact the role was written for Lance Riddick

>>715925052
>Also while I liked the TV presenter for Alan I couldn't help but shake the fact the role was written for Lance Riddick

This was the most disappointing thing. The guy who does it isn't bad, but it just made me sad every time thinking of what could have been.

>>715924286
based
new york is so fvcking kino it's unreal

Surprised to see how much you guys liked AW2

I always thought that SH2 was one of /v/s favourite games

>>715923914 (OP)
ohnonono shout sis, how could we let this company make a game about brutalizing black woman during the night ?

If AW2 is better than SH2 I don't even wanna imagine the levels of garbage the remake is.

>>715925637
Bloober didn't make a single good game.
Also UE5 is trash.

>>715925386
I have yet to play the remake so i can't really give my opinion on it.

>>715925637
they remade the second game before first, that enough to know how retarded they are.
even if it was a retarded CEO that wanted the sweet RE2 remake sale but don't know shit about game and can't even use google to find out why

>>715925637
>>715925682
Your hate is performance related? i don'r see how any of these games can be considered bad

>>715925963
Both are on sale now on PS5. AW2 is a lot cheaper though

>>715926104
>Your hate is performance related? i don'r see how any of these games can be considered bad
No that is just cherry on top.
And yes awful performance is an issue.

>>715923914 (OP)
They are quite different games despite both being classified as ''horror adventures''.

>>715926219
I remember that i saw a lot about how bad their performance were but this was long ago

they surely fixed the problems by now right?

>>715926429
>they surely fixed the problems by now right?

>>715923914 (OP)
Alan Wake, and it's not even close, and I'm not even a fan of it, but Remedy absolutely curbstomps bloober.

>>715926429
it's just third worlder with bad hardware

Resident Evil 4 Remake.

>>715926629
The goat

already have it though

>>715926626
I will play it on ps5 so i will be fine

>>715924349
the best way to play it is on pc with the enhanced edition

>>715926626
Deflection.

Just finished Silent Hill 2 recently
5800X3D and RX 6950XT Max settings. Ray Tracing off. Ran like shit. Had to use upscaling for about 90 FPS. Constant frame time stutters.

Alan Wake 2 was very reddit in a lot of points. The 1st game was much better. The SH2 Remake was mostly great.

>>715927307
pcsx2 requirements are getting worse

>>715923914 (OP)
trash vs garbage

>>715927649
kek
I think he meant SH2 demake.

>>715924730
American Nightmare is the one I remember the most mainly because I loved the rural southwest location. Especially the first area, it's the only remedy game I've played through multiple times.

>>715923914 (OP)
>Alan woke

>>715923914 (OP)
I fell asleep playing those around the same time, so it's a draw

Eileen shaving

>>715928702
>50 posts in
You are getting sloppy.

>>715928814
sorry

>>715928702
running a bit late, aren't ya?

>>715924502
>>715924798
>gave Saga a chance because I knew that angry white man comment
Alan's wife made almost the exact same comment in the DLC for the first game btw

>>715924730
>the original Alan Wake
I don't understand what people like about it. It isn't spooky enough to be an effective horror game and the gameplay is too dull and repetitive to be engaging, story and characters are largely annoying too.

>>715928909
That's a child...

just finished tlou2 on pc and in the mood for some kino gameplay. Is aw1 any good

i remember playing aw1 when i was very young but that game was too repeatative and shit

>>715929345
She didn't though. Both those moments came from the Dark Place intentionally fucking with Alan/Saga.

>>715930243
yeah yeah same thing whatever all I'm saying is it's a repeated line from the first game so getting that outraged by it is silly

>>715930301
Yeah, even the black couple that got mad over being arrested or whatever in 2 were both objectively terrible people so who gives a shit if they played the race card lel.

>>715923914 (OP)
I played them back to back earlier this year, and the SH2 remake is leagues better. The “combat” in Alan Wake 2 is somehow worse than the first one, the story is a lot of meandering bullshit that ultimately goes nowhere, the dialogue is atrocious, and as nice as the game is to look at sometimes, there is no real way you interact with the environment. That isn’t to say that SH2 is without fault, but I found it to be the more enjoyable experience.
Special mention to the fact that Silent Hill 2 actually bothers to have interesting puzzles that aren’t the dumb nursery rhyme filler bullshit or checking the environment for glowing symbols to put into a combination lock for the 80th time.

>SHOW ME THE CHAMPION OF LIIIIIIIIIIGHT

>>715928015
I'd say It's weird how they didn't remaster American Nightmare but after how fucked the remaster was in general for PC I'd say it was for the best.

>>715930640
If you didn't enjoy that part you have no soul.

>>715923914 (OP)
anal weak 2

silent hill 2 r had too much added padding

i was a bit disappointed with the AW2 DLCs

>>715924730
They're pretty meh but you should play them to understand 2.

>>715924730
AW1 is fun in the "kinda shitty Xbox 360 game" type of way.
Which is to say that it's probably at least a 7 or an 8 outta 10 when compared to what studios are putting out these days.

>>715930990
I was fine with the first little collection one, but Lake House was pretty fucking meh outside of the Control 2 teaser. Kinda hope we play Dylan in that one attempting to make amends for helping the Hiss get as bad as it did in the first one.

I haven't played Max Payne but Alan Wake and Control are some of the dullest, more boring games I've ever played. I don't know why Remedy are highly regarded.

>>715923983
Resident Evil 1 + 2 remakes are genuinely some of the best games of the entire survival horror genre

>>715931416
1 is a good remake, 2 is slop and completely changes the game into a third person shooter

>>715924117
most accurate summary of AW2

>>715931569
2 remake is a more challenging, scary, survival horror game compared to the original, though the cut content does hurt it.

>>715928702
But what about ALAN shaving?

the loss of static camera angles and the loss of of the tone setting that brings in some environments alone makes the sh2 remake no where near comparable
it's a better game mechanically and visually, sure, but that's to be expected and nothing to praise considering current tech - it's par for the course. what it brings outside of that isnt worth speaking about
well, that isnt entirely true, expanding on the town in the opening section and letting you explore around was a very nice inclusion. other than that though the pacing is worse, the atmosphere is worse, there is ironically far less attention to detail in the effects in the environment and in cutscenes (no moths following your light, utterly BUTCHERING the eleen fire sequence)
it's the same shit as every remake, it looks better visually and has smoother gameplay, but utterly botches the attention to detail, atmosphere, symbolism, and art design.

that being said, AW2 alan parts > SH2 remake > saga parts in AW2

>>715932036
Don't shave your balls.
Even scratches hurt like hell.

>>715931980
basically refer to this post >>715932156 because it's about my same feelings on the RE2make

>>715932427

I liked alan wake 2 a ton, it was incredibly campy schlock and it made me smile a lot.
Gameplay wise it was pretty much everything I asked for from AW1 and AN.

I ain't playing Alan Wake 2 until it goes on steam, fuck Tim Sweeney

I liked this bit.

>>715932712
Just pirate the game faggot.
Fuck gaben and fuck timmy.

>>715932645
>"My motorcycle is also a werewolf!"

>>715932510
While I mostly agree with you in terms of atmosphere, it is more noticeable with sh2 than re2 remake. Also, I didn't play the originals growing up, so I'm more lenient when it comes to that stuff, but I do agree the original is visually more memorable and less bland, but damn is re2 remake is so fun to play, and it is still tense to play despite multiple playthroughs. I just find the og too easy.

>>715924057
tpbp

>>715933072
Been reading a lot of King recently and man the Rose part of that DLC keeps popping in my head every once in a while.

I only played AW1 and remember the ending was he keep writing and didn't find his wife
Did AW2 finally finish the storyline or not?

>>715936062
You're at least half right there, but what actually happened was that Alan essentially traded himself for Alice at the end of AW1 and imprisoned himself in the Dark Place in order to free Alice, and afterwards he continued writing to try and write the perfect story to let himself break out and return to his dimension
Alan Wake 2 expanded on that story and continued it, meaning we'll probably have to wait for AW3 for a proper "ending"

>>715923914 (OP)
SH2R, mostly by virtue of being a skin suit of a much better game

>>715936247
Ah that's disappointing then.

>>715936448
Maybe a bit, but I thought the continuation of the story was neat.

>>715936062
I should clarify on behalf of the other anon, but they're wrong. Alan breaks free of the narrative at the end of Alan Wake 2 in terms of being trapped by the Dark Place, but maybe not the overarching narrative. A big topic about Alan Wake 2 is the fact that his writing is rewriting reality, and it's expanding outwards. It's a topic brought up in Alan Wake 1, expanded upon in Control, and then further expanded with Alan Wake 2 where Saga Anderson's daughter is both potentially alive and dead depending on if the story goes on. The problem is, we never establish which is the real world and what is his writing - similarly to how nobody knows if Thomas Zane was a filmmaker or a poet. Alan might be a creation of Thomas Zane, thus explaining his parautalitarian status with the FBC. We also don't really know if Casey is real or not. The more you look into the story and the world, the more interesting it gets.

SH2 > AW2 > rancid shit > SH2 demake

>>715923914 (OP)
Silent hill 2 Remake - Lynch kino, no niggers, superior to original.

Alan wake 2 - jewish propaganda, nigger protag, marvel multiverse plot.

Silent hill 1 remake in progress.

Remedy will be shot down, they're last chance to make Max Payne remake for cash bank, pathetic losers.

outside of the forced black female protag, AW2 was still an excellent game.

Didn't play Silent Hill 2 Remake because Remakes are dogshit but it can't be worse than Alan Wake 2, so that.
I can't believe they turned Alan Wake into capeshit and retarded faggots who talk about how the original was never good anyway became the new fans of the "franchise."

I want to collect screenshots from a few AW2 cutscenes but there's no good videos for it that don't have obnoxious thumbnails overlaid on them
So now I need to actually do it myself uuugh.

I played aw2 twice
its mostly noteworthy for its cinematic direction, like the environments are sometime awe inspiring. Its the most cohesive visual look I've seen in a game and its worth experiencing for that alone, on a 5090 with path tracing. Good cast of characters.

The gameplay is a bit like witcher 3, it fits the fantasy but you dont go into it for the sake of shooting some more of the respawning enemies but since its paced so well it doesnt get tedious.
SH 2 RM had worse combat due to worse pacing. The enemies get tedious and its a bit like grinding through chopping a forest of trees to get to the berries. Meanwhile the visuals : fog

People complaining about somehow who looks like saga anderson being in a game are angry about something else and pretend the game did something wrong when all the individual aspects of it make perfect sense.

THE CLICKER

>>715937590
>Lynch kino
>has the cinematography and dialogue of a Netflix original
5 japierdole kurwas have been deposited in your account, now go back to cleaning toilets.

>>715924502
That's what happens when you blackwash a character to appeal to consultants but don't distort the rest of the game around it. Gaps in logic begin to appear, which wouldn't exist where she the original.

Of course a blue eyes blonde american woman with Norse ancestry wouldn't be surprised at her Norse ancestry.

>>715940078
t. never played the game and is a schizo

>>715923914 (OP)
i don't play games with niggers in it.

>>715940126
Fucking gay nigger I'm half way done, had to stop because I'm away from home for seasonal work. You can't even run it maxed out like I do, pussy ass /v/tranny.

>>715923914 (OP)
I am really not a fan of "received its most significant round of funding in 2020"-core.

>>715937641
Keep crying, old faggot. Your cries will change nothing. Remake 2 - success. Your health and youngest - lost. Just kill yourself now, old tranny.

>>715940423
You're halfway done 2 years post release? Guess you're very busy with work.

Saga talks about her swedish mother plenty before anything supernatural happens. Saga reacts believably most of the time which is mixed in with her experiencing supernatural occurences that annoy her.

I can run it maxed, just not at good enough fps for it to feel good. Aw2 has some extremely high latency for path tracing which cp77 doesnt have. Thankfully most of the environments are baked in and have a set time of day so the experience is fine without rt.

>>715923914 (OP)
>Black woman in police force
Woke game

>>715924057
/thread

>>715940613
Stupid fucking bitch who can't even run it maxed out, consider the possibility that I started the game late April instead of getting it in its horrid state on release from Timmy Tencent's store

>>715926429
Yeah actually it did get fixed, but it took them a couple months.

>>715940735
>its horrid state on release
are you mixing it with cyberpunk release?
The game had no big issues at launch

Why is she black
Why is she a she
Thought it was Alan

>>715930640
AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE HERALD OF DARKNESS
I swear to god if this game toned down on the meme joke jumpscares and improved the impact of shooting things to pre AW2 levels the game would be top tier, the combat was worse than the last two entries

>>715940702
daughter of a 2nd generation norse coalburner pseudo hippie para utilitarian, just barely looks mixed, fucked a white guy who was a pig(what a surprise)and had a 3rd fucking generation nigger daughter herself who also barely looks mixed despite being a mulatto of a mulatto, and her town of finnish immigrant white majority accepted all that casually like it's another day in Manhattan

>>715941020
imagine when these people play other games and start nitpicking the logic of the world
I cant imagine they get very far before quitting.

>>715940786
Try as you might, you'll never drag me down to your level, bitch ass bugman. Release AW2 was so bad it couldn't even run properly on 4090 systems, suffered from tons of memory leaks and gaytracing problems, and it's still fucking fucked in many areas if it doesn't run on am SSD.

>>715923914 (OP)
Me on the right

>>715924117
Yeah don't be a bitch and do it and get the bliss ending, it made me cry like a real man.

>>715941137
>ssd
what
well I didnt suffer crashes and I played it at launch while you havent played it yet so maybe its time to eat your meds

AW2 has some amazing design choices that they don't follow up well.
Like if you go to the mind world when the game starts teasing the big brutes, even the mind world is shaken and thundering. You get there, he bursts through shit.
Then you get to the actual fight and the guy is barely an inch taller than the regular dudes.

>>715941132
I can imagine you smugly typing away "merely pretending" to be an emasculated fuckboy, leaning back into your chair chortling some air out your greasy nose fantasizing about your next gotcha moment before going back to consuming nigger media

Fag lmao

>>715941273
Remedy's new engine is all kinds of fucked. I bet they couldn't get the rigging down correctly for an actual huge enemy.
Control on controller is piss easy while you get fucked with mkb on the same difficulty. AW2 is piss easy with mkb while it's a literal chore to play with console despite the easy ui

>>715924057
where are my akumu niggas at

>>715941473
Reminds me when I saw the gameplay footage where saga shoots at people in cabin and the carnival place. All the npcs slowly lumber towards her giving the gamepad players the required time it takes to aim with their terrible control scheme.

Gamepads dont fucking work for videogames if you need to aim a weapon.

>>715924057
I actually never played the Evil Within games, shill them to me please

>>715923914 (OP)

Silent Hill 2, at least it isn't woke garbage

>>715923914 (OP)
I don't play remakes, I dont play raceswaps

I liked both but both had huge issues. AW2 had a mostly nonsensical plot. SH2 at least you're able to follow. AW2 had better gameplay. SH2 puzzles were too complicated and the game was confusing at points.

>>715942419
sh2 puzzles were necessary relief from chopping down tree trunks

>>715923914 (OP)
Alan Wake 2 is a way better game, but only if you’ve played all the other Remedy games, including Max Payne

>>715942957
Playing aw1 and control gives you some necessary background to enjoy the game more
I never played quantum break but tim breaker has his own segment in the dlc so maybe it connects to it somehow.

SH2R is 9/10
AW2 is like a 8

How were the DLC for Anal Wake 2

>>715945532
worth a buy if you liked control and the vanilla aw2
they expand the lore of the universe but dont directly add to sagas/alans story
theres tim breaker story, control lady story, the goofy waitress story

>>715923914 (OP)

idk have not played alan wake 2, but this scene teared me up from SH2 original, and not many games have had that effect on me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyaLoaUbExk

>1998 RE2 cultural victory
>2005 RE4 cultural victory
>2019 REmake 2 cultural victory
I wish I lived in a different timeline

>>715930640
Anger's Remorse is also a banger too, surprisingly.

>>715936842
>Alan breaks free of the narrative at the end of Alan Wake 2 in terms of being trapped by the Dark Place
Did he? It still looked like he was trapped.

>>715949020
You gotta beat the Final Draft

both valueless console games.
haed to say witch i hate more, but im gonna go with alen nigger 2 because nigger.

I'll have to go with Control

>>715941316
absolutely done him