It's no masterpiece.

>>715971654 (OP)
it cannot be understated how pivotal Halo was. zoomies dont understand that all the boomers talking about Ocarina of Time being a goat- Halo was the millennial goat

>>715971654 (OP)
>>715972587
>Fps
>on a console
Embarrassing
Amerimutts have 0 standards

>>715972695
Halo changed the way games are made.

>>715972858
And?
Modern warfare did the same thing
Are you gonna to fellate codslop too?

>make a game so good it singlehandedly sells an entire tech brand for the next decade
>people buy an expensive machine just to play it
>everyone else in the industry tries to copycat it unsuccessfully
>redefines/modernizes the genre it belongs to
>somehow not a masterpiece

>>715973198
Modern Warfare was also great. The first time. Remaking it twice a year for the next 20 years was the failure.

>>715973202
>>redefines/modernizes the genre it belongs to
Embarrassing

>>715973202
>make a game so good
It was shit however

>>715973296
It literally did. Console FPS control schemes, HUDs, weapon mechanics, and underlying technology like auto-aim that make using analog sticks tolerable. Halo completely changed it, before that we were still in the Goldeneye days with tank controls.

>>715971654 (OP)
For the early 2000s fps scene? Yes it is.
Halo is remarkably self-contained and coherent in terms of gameplay. It is a well-oiled machine. A simple machine no doubt. But gameplay-wise this halo doesn't have an ounce of fat on it.

>>715973415
>before that we were still in the Goldeneye days with tank controls.
Consider suicide

Halo 1 still holds up. The later games, not so much.

>>715973491
If you're arguing that single-analog times were better, you don't deserve the gift of life and should have it forcibly taken from you

>>715973491
He's right though. We went from Goldeneye written about as a Doom Clone, to the likes of Halo redefining FPS games and singlehandedly selling the Xbox console, a new contender against Sony and Nintendo.

>>715973620
Single analog is better. Digital movement is always preferable.

>>715973620
>console subhuman can't fathom pc fps
>his only metrics are golden shit and gaylo
Jump off a cliff

Nice influential first-person shooter you got there. How’s the franchise doing these days? Oh… sorry for your loss.

>>715973696
>the likes of Halo redefining FPS games
Such as?

I like all types of fps games both new and old.

>>715973818
We get it you like eating shit

>>715973581
Graphically-speaking Im actually shocked how well halo 3 holds up. Halo 3 does the impossible with well-aged realism. How many games from 2007 hold up this well?

>>715973920
>How many games from 2007 hold up this well?
Stalker, crysis, hl2ep2, bioshock

>>715973815
>Such as?
what're you even asking

>>715973920
>How many games from 2007 hold up this well?
all of them actually

>>715972695
It's better than hl2

>>715974146
>consoleslop
>better
Mutts and having 0 standards
Classic

>>715973198
modern warfare was never good. It released same time when Crysis 1 was made. Because of modern warfare, we no longer have good games. Modern Warfare was far worse than Oblivion's horse armor

>>715971654 (OP)
It's fun.
This guy was pretty cool.

>>715971654 (OP)
it is

>>715974191
>NOOO MUH CONSOL.. LE BAD!!!
Crippling autism, your early 2000s pc specs weren't a masterpiece

I like this guy, too.

>>715974291
>fart
Correct, subhuman. Console fps is the purest form of trash ever imaginable

I think this scorpion has downs.

>>715974203
>It released same time when Crysis 1 was made.
I just need to stop for a second and have a good laugh, thanks. Anyone remember Crysis? supposedly a benchmark for your hardware. Lol. A reason to buy Windows Vista, anyone remember this shit. Lol

>>715974224
>>715974313
>health/armor ui in the top right corner
>ammo on the left
Do gaylofags really

>>715974374
I think I have downs for forgetting the image.

>>715973986
>Stalker
lol
>crysis
It's fine but it ran like shit on the hardware of its day
>hl2ep2
Yeah looks pretty good
>bioshock
Good but it's rather stylized which helps aging better

This one is only slightly better.

>>715974373
HL2 is shit faggot, videogames themselves can be judged by itself. Platform doesn't always matter.

>>715971654 (OP)
halo would be a 10/10 game just for the AI. Elites, Grunts, and Jackals working as a team in Combat Evolved still outperform most modern NPCs. It's actually crazy how well the enemies work in this game. one of the few single player games i can play forever (on MCC with MKB...)

>>715971654 (OP)
Name another FPS with smart Ai enemies. Only fear and swat4. That's all. Now go play some garbage like new Robocop with stupid ai, or new cod, whatever

>>715971654 (OP)
I never saw the appeal. The plot was generic sci fi military stuff, the level design was really bad, and the regenerating shields on the aliens was aids. Also, only TWO guns at a time? Fuck off with that.
>You're just some zoomer
I'm 39, The first game was okay I guess but I guess playing the PC classics at the time spoiled me. Maybe you had to be a console player at the time to really get into Halo.

>>715974550
>videogames themselves can be judged by itself.
>regenerating second hp bar
Find a strong branch, a thick rope and neck yourself.

>>715973920
It looks good, but it's not as fun to play.

>>715974629
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST ADD NEW MECHANICS THAT WASN'T IN THE OTHER FPS I LIKE

AUTISM

>>715974621
>I'm 39
lmao and you dont get Halo? fucking Halo?? holy shit

>>715974601
>Name another FPS with smart Ai enemies.
You can't be serious. You're claiming Halo has good AI. The game where they're programmed to dive out of the way from grenades and do nothing else that could be considered intelligent.

>>715974426
Crysis was the peak of PC gaming. PC gaming died after Modern Warfare was released, because it showed to publishers that it makes more sense to aim games at consoles, then port to PC, rather than designing a game that's targeted at PC (original Crysis 1 couldn't run on consoles initially). Basically the reason you have UE3-UE5 slop games that run poorly on PCs, is because Modern Warfare sent a message, that "it doesn't matter", and now there's no more effort being put into making good games anymore

>>715974601
Half-Life
Quake 2 after they fixed it in the remaster.

>>715974671
>unironically defends regenerating health
Terminal case of: Shit Taste

>You're claiming Halo has good AI.
NTA but how retarded do you have to be to think Halo has bad enemy ai, god damn.

It's 2025. You people are STILL fighting about this.

>>715974692
I said, name another FPS shooter where enemies has better ai than first Halo, fucking nigger

>>715974680
Like I said, I was too busy playing actually good games on the PC. By the time I got to Halo I was thoroughly unimpressed.

>>715974470
Crysis being a graphical powerhouse is a meme. Look up "crysis screenshots before:2009" on google images and you'll see the higher end of what most people were seeing on release.

>>715971654 (OP)
You can't say that anon! It is the Super Mario 64 for Ex-Dudebros.

>Crysis was the peak of PC gaming.
lmao PC gaming BTFO by one of their own!

>>715973920
damn, maybe a Halo 3 remaster with an 16 player count spartan firefight mode isn't necessary, but I still want it.

>>715974146
Bullshit.

>>715974873
the ai begs to differ

>>715974830
Crysis was designed to scale with future hardware, while still being playable on PCs of the day. It was always impressive.

>>715974741
>NOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE SHIELDS IN THIS SCIFI MILITARY GAME NOOOO!!
Autism. I bet you think the shitty boat sequences and hecking physics in hl2 are really amazing, garbage taste. Never getting another sequel either.

>>715971654 (OP)
I played Halo 1 like 10 years ago and got really bored in the library. It wasn't awful but really repetitive and boring.

>>715974873
HL2 is overrated shit, the first was good though.

>>715974447
>Main gun is replaced by a second flashlight
The worst trade deal

>>715971654 (OP)
bungie halo is something I really like
I was thrilled to learn about picrel because I also enjoy gundam

>>715974781
sounds like you were just a loser who missed out and tried to get into it far later only to get filtered.

>>715975064
It fires veeeeeery slow moving rockets with a retarded large splash radius. I'm not sure why it and the four machine gun versions exist when the normal one is the best.
Just there to add flavor and
>lmao, beta content
like the doozy here, I guess.

>>715975002

Halofags only know like 6 games. Half-Life 2 has most recently been added to their list of canned responses.

>>715974732
Those aren't smarter tard

>>715974765
That's because good games are a rarity nowdays. Most of modern games are slop. Back in the day, I could go to a store and buy a game based on cover art alone, and I'd get fun out of the game. Nowdays that's not possible anymore, because when you buy a game from a store, it just comes with a steam code or something. it's only at 2025 that Nintendo fans are complaining about "code in a box", but that shit's been a reality to PC gaming at least since 07 (race on/race 07 in my library, also arma 2), it's fucking ridiculous how fucking low PC gaming has fallen, and nobody ever made noise about it, because how fucking consumers valve fans are.

>>715976009
They are. Play more games.

>>715974470
>It's fine but it ran like shit on the hardware of its day
it ran shit on poorfags hardware. Those who could afford the 8800 Ultra, had a blast with Crysis. Eventually I accidentally fried my ultra while running some overclock program, and got sent free 280 gtx, which ran Crysis even better, so it was very much good purchase.

>>715976183
because the vast majority of people with your opinion are tech illiterate baboons or seething indians begging for epic's shill money.
owning your own physical copies of steam games that run independent of steam isn't hard.

It did nothing that Goldeneye hadn't already accomplished.

>>715976471
>owning your own physical copies of steam games that run independent of steam isn't hard
Where can you buy physical PC games that aren't steam codes? Do tell me

>>715977001
you buy the game on steam, download it, break the steam DRM, and burn it to disk.

Tech illiterate baboon.

>>715977154
That's not buying physical PC games, you idiot. You're just defending these big corpos with your idiocy

>>715977276
its literally the same thing you tech illiterate baboon.
you pay money and get a physical disk copy of the game.
>"WAAHHHH TECHNOLOGY SCARY MONKEY GO OOOK OOK"
I don't want to hear it.

>>715971654 (OP)

>>715977409
>rewarding companies for bad practices
Let me guess, you're a literal shill, an Indian?

>>715976251
Pants on head retarded, thinking quake fuckin 2 has better AI is just retardation

>>715977531
>WAHHHHHH TECHNOLOGY SCARY I DONT WANT THE THING I WANT WAHHHHHHHH
Koalas are so fucking stupid and smooth brained that they cannot eat their needed leaves unless it is from the branch on their favorite tree.
You can take the leaves, put them in front of them, and they will refuse to eat because they are just. that. stupid.
You are no longer a baboon.
You are a koala.

>>715977531
>give me physical game copy
>ok do xyz
>NO NOT LIKE THAT!

DON’T OPEN!

>>715977694
Play more games.

>>715971654 (OP)
mogged by Metroid Prime 2 Echoes

>>715977718
>>715977805
You belong to a cult

>>715976771
Halo is one of the most poetic and beautifully crafted trilogies ever in gaming. Music, world, ambience, gameplay, story it's all on a whole other level. Poorfags who couldn't afford a console are the only ones crying.

>>715978078
>KOALA WANT LEAVES
>LEAF ONLY LEAF IF ON STICK ON TREE.
>STOP GIVING KOALA PLATE OF GREEN STUFF!

>>715978078
hey uh retarded koala.
you can skip a step, buy on gog, and burn to disk without DRM breaking.

It unironically has better levels and weapons than Halo.

>>715978260
>Buy on (((gog)))
Why would I want to give money to a kike company like that? It might as well be called "golems are stupid" or something. Lmao you're not very self-aware are you

>>715978454
>NOOOOOO STOP TELLING ME ABOUT THESE "leaves on a plate"
>ITS NOT REAL!

you want a physical game. you can have a physical game.
You refuse it because you are worthless.

>>715977880
Quit being contrarian

>>715978612
I'm not. Stop being close-minded. Quake 2's remaster is unironically a better campaign than Halo.

>>715978792
We are talking about AI retard, and their isnt a memorable moment in quake 2 its all brown reptitive corridors

>>715978142
>Halo is one of the most poetic and beautifully crafted trilogies ever in gaming.
This cannot be overstated. Halo was magic

>>715979134
>We are talking about AI retard
Yeah, and the remaster fixed the AI.
Nigga, you're defending Halo and its endless grey corridors.

>>715972587
Nigger, it was only ever hauled as some incredible game by consolefags that had zero fucking standards.
It looks and plays like dogshit, and I do not mean it in comparison with later titles but specifically older ones, Half-Life, Quake, even the original fucking Doom all played and looked way better than Halo did.
This game is a fucking embarrassment the moment you compare it with anything else made in that time, it's purely just retards having nostalgia for their first ever FPS.

>>715977154
>>715977409
>>715977805
>Here's your PDF bro!
>WTF? I paid for a physical book
>Umm... Are you tech illiterate or something? Just print it.
Are you fucking retarded?

>>715979771
Half-life was fucking dogshit garbage. Any "cinema movie games" like half-life are what's unironically killing video games. There's more fucking gameplay on bethesda's morrowind and oblivion, than on half-life cinematic kojima games.

Quake 1 was rubbish, Quake 2 had somewhat interesting singleplayer, but none of the quake purists even consider Q2 a real quake game, they're too busy wanking over Q1 and Q3. Doom 1 was the only doom game that didn't have super shotgun breaking weapon balance, Doom 2 was garbage and I played it when it was new. There's no innovating or inspiring fps games for PC, nothing like goldeneye, halo or perfect dark, all of the PC games were riding solely on graphics, very few were trying to do something interesting, innovate gameplay. Only thing good to come from Half-Life 1 were the mods, but since goyim aren't allowed to have good things, that too had to be promptly killed with Half-Life 2 (since everyone jumped to playing HL2 or CS:S , and HL2 didn't have mods for it for very, very, very long time, and only 10% of what HL1 did).

>>715972695
>>Fps
>>on a console
That's why it was so revolutionary: it was a console FPS but good.

>>715980245
Quake 2 didn't even start as a Quake sequel. They only slapped the name onto it after they couldn't get a trademark for "Wor."

>>715980051
>the koala nigger is now bitching that he doesnt get CD art plastered on the CD and a case.
You wanted a physical game, now you are bitching because you want more.
Nice concession, loser.

>>715980051
>Noooooooo my leaves need stick and a tree!
>you said leav-
>NOOOOOOO IT NEEDS STICK AND TREE

>>715973920
halo 3 always looked like shit, no one played it for the graphics

>>715971654 (OP)
Your entire series isn't a masterpiece. At least this one and the one released in 2021 campaign-wise were closer to classic FPSs unlike the trash in-between.

>>715973920
If you want kino, try Test Drive Unlimited 1 on PC. I haven't played the PS2 version, but apparently it's completely different game. The x360 and PC versions are both kino tho

>>715979134
>its all brown reptitive corridors
You mean like halo 2

>>715972587
Yeah, it made it so you can take cover every time your health is low and then go back to killing instead of having to explore to heal yourself. Something the FPS genre didn't recover from until Doom 2016.

>>715972858
Yeah, for the worst, you can't compare it to the Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time. Halo was astroturffed and pushed by multiplayer faggots.

>>715973259
>Modern Warfare was also great
kys

>>715974692
Bait

>>715973415
>it babied my game up that's why I like it
Go jump off a cliff

>>715973696
>Halo redefining FPS games
What do you mean by this?
>singlehandedly selling the Xbox console
That's funny given that every time you put Halo on any platform that isn't Xbox it flops. I think Xbot faggots were just a new kind of stupid.

>>715973920
Halo 3 looked like shit when it released and ran at sub-720p.

>>715975002
Not him but Halo having regenerative shields isn't a problem, no game has that which makes Halo unique. The problems of Halo started with Halo 2 and its regenerative health which poured in every other shooter. Not only was it bad for the FPS genre, it was bad for Halo itself because now you can just hide behind cover like a bitch and then move in a straight line. Bungie at least started to realize this fuck up after Halo 3, but the damage was done.

>>715976771
Golden Eye and Perfect Dark along with Turok already did everything Halo did but better.

>>715982575
Non-regenerating health sucked in Reach because they kept the retarded decision of 2 and 3 where Spartans have fuck all health. ODST is the only game to get it right because you have the same amount of health and shield.

>>715980245
>but none of the quake purists even consider Q2 a real quake game, they're too busy wanking over Q1 and Q3
shouldn't that signal to you maybe your taste isn't as good as you think it is?
as shit as you think HL1 is it still manages to be 10x better than Gaylo

>>715974146
low bar

>>715982920
How is HL1 better than Halo? It had almost no fucking gameplay. Only thing good for HL1 was the mods like Sven Coop, the specialist, firearms, some other's i've already forgotten due to how fucking dead online gaming on PC is. Even Opposing Force expansion has million times more interesting gameplay than HL1 did

>>715983104
>How is HL1 better than Halo
The guns feel better to shoot than in Gaylo
>It had almost no fucking gameplay
Oh you just didn't play it. Thanks for letting me know before I wasted too much time on you

>>715972695
pc fps
cs
garrys mod
you faggots have no right to say shit

>>715982845
>Non-regenerating health sucked in Reach because they kept the retarded decision of 2 and 3 where Spartans have fuck all health
I agree, my solution to this dilemma is to give Chief's shield 200% strength and Chief's health 200% strength and like Halo Infinite, make Chief's shields permanently upgradable or just for the remakes sake, bring back the overshield. This would allow Chief to run and gun like an old FPS protag while allowing you to be more caution when your health is in the red.

>>715973202
then cod4 comes out and none give a shit about gaylo anymore and they gotta port it to the ps5

>>715972587
>goat
Halo was fucking garbage fratslop that ruined FPS games with weapon limits and regen health. Level design has never recovered from the brain damage Halo inflected on both players and developers. Go fuckyourself.

>>715983104
The entire game is gameplay, you braindead Xbot.

>>715983387
CE and ODST handled health perfectly fine, because you had plenty to play aggressively even on higher difficulties.

>>715983291
>Oh you just didn't play it.
Nobody did, there's no gameplay on cinematic games, of course I'm not gonna spend my precious time just standing there watching some NPCs giving boring monologues, when I could be playing engaging games where I can interact the world, rather than playing a game that dictates me how I should be playing the game. This on-rails linear trash is what gave birth to games like Call of Duty where there exist fucking wooden fences you cannot vault over because maps gotta have arbitrary size limit or otherwise it would confuse the console gamer.

>>715971654 (OP)
*GASP*
He said WHAAAAAT?!???

>>715979316
Fixed AI still good as Halo you inbred

>>715975087
That's neat.

>>715983291
>The guns feel better to shoot than in Gaylo
No they fucking don't. Not even close.

>>715983649
Isn't*

>>715983649
>consolefag calling anyone else inbred

>>715982845
In odst you have less shields but more health

>>715982575
>regenerative shields
>regenerative health
Same shit different name.

>>715983525
shut your fucking mouth
your opinions suck ass

>>715973798
But enough about Wolfenstein, Doom, Quake and Half Life

>>715983587
>Nobody did
Assuming you are nobody, you're correct. You didn't play the game, otherwise you'd know there is no world where Halo is better
>>715983731
In Halo 1 it literally feels like you're literally shooting pellets at enemies

Halo saved the FPS genre from self mutilation

>>715983814
retard

>>715983784
It was 80 for each. You were actually bulkier in ODST than you were in any of the other games.

>>715983104
Oof

>>715983836
>literallyliterallyliterallyliterally-etc
Neither did you play halo zoom zoomie.

>>715973415
>before that we were still in the Goldeneye days with tank controls.
That's not true. Halo did not invent twin stick controls on console, or even left stick for strafe and forward/back and right stick for aim. The HUD also isn't really remarkable.

>>715983836
>You didn't play the game, otherwise you'd know there is no world where Halo is better
Halo is non-linear game, you can approach enemy base from multiple angles, be it by foot or with a vehicle. Half-Life requires you to have 2 minute dialog with a scientist NPC before you can enter corridor A, and you cannot choose other approach. At this point I know you're just baiting me, because I cease to believe there are people who favor such linear approaches to games that provide you freedom to tackle the objective from multiple different angles (hello? Splinter Cell chaos theory? Crysis 1? Anyone there in your brain, or is your head vacant of brains?)

>>715983405
What's even more funny is that Halo always bombs on other platforms that isn't Xbox, every PC Halo bombed, and its currently bombing on PS5. It will bomb on the Switch 2 as well.

>>715984060
>I'll refute your claim of me not playing the game by doubling down on evidence I've never played the game!

>>715984152
>PS5
???

>>715983563
True

>>715983814
Regenerative shields allowed Halo to be different from other FPSs, regenerative health fucked over the entire FPS genre for decades.

>>715983902
Both have the exact same effect on how devs think about enemy and resource placement you moron.

>>715974191
shart life 2 was also made by americans you irrelevant niggerspic lol. even the shittiest halo game is better than any pc fps

>>715984060
>you can approach enemy base from multiple angles, be it by foot or with a vehicle
too bad none of that actually matters when it's not fun to shoot things, which is the point I made and you just diverted to some random point about non linearity. also non linear games are not inherently better than linear games, they're two different styles that can be done well on both ends. you should know that.

>>715984230
MCC is currently on PS5 but it's dead as shit.

>>715984395
retard

>>715984395
>on PS5
no she isn’t

I like Bungie’s Halo games.
I think the gameplay is fun, the art style is great (especially CE) and the music is phenomenal.
I also really like Half-Life and other PC shooters.
Am I some anomaly or are the same 2 losers samefagging this whole thread?

>>715984559
>>715984568
I thought it was announced at some absolute state of play thing. It wasn't?

>>715985356
>same 2 losers samefagging this whole thread?
Yes it's very obvious

>>715985356
It's not, people are rightfully calling Halo out, I liked Halo CE over all of the games, and I never understood why Bungie gutted the health system of Halo CE and dumbed the series down further instead of taking more from classic FPS games. Sucks more to find out that Infinite was originally going to bring back health packs only to cut it for Halo 2's shitty health system.

>>715985765
Just play the game like it's laso

>>715979771
>Half-Life
>the game everyone bought so they could play Counter Strike
you had to be there

>>715981723
It's better than Ocarina of Time actually

>>715986330
That doesn't fix the hiding behind cover like a bitch problem Halo 2 introduced.

>>715986587
It's not, Halo sucks

>>715987324
then stop being a bitch

>>715979771
I like quake and HL is one of my favorites and I think CE plays great
they're going for two different things

To this day I still love Bungie era Halo.

>>715983742
>can't form an argument cause he knows hes wrong
lol

>>715987421
nuh uh

>>715987459
Halo 2 on up wants you to be a pussy ass bitch instead of being the MASTER CHIEF. Starting with Halo 2, the games make you feel weak. Halo Infinite tried to fix this with upgradeable shielding, but you still have the stupid rechargeable health from Halo 2.

>>715987517
It's because game industry had less indians back then

>>715987951
See >>715987459

>>715988196
Halo promotes being a bitch

>>715973920
A lot of older games look better because they weren't just relying on the lighting engine to do all the work. They actually with art direction with lots of baked in and painted lighting so everything saw was intentional. And since models were still too low poly they couldn't half ass on texture work. Halo infinite, new Gears of War looks worse because they don't understand the stylistic choices that were made, so now their super soldiers look like they're wearing plastic armor. The fact that 343 thinks that switching to unreal engine 5 with its fancy new lighting will somehow fix their problems is hilarious

>>715985356
I'm with you. I like both series for different reasons. Despite them both being FPS I think it's a bit apples to oranges trying to directly compare them. Both series are trying to accomplish something different in the FPS space.
>Half Life: Experimenting with new gameplay mechanics, integrating storytelling and gameplay as seamlessly as possible, heavy emphasis on a single, unbroken player experience, heavy atmosphere, divine pacing
>Halo: Bombastic military sci-fi adventure with epic scale, mission-based campaigns, deep background lore, heavy emphasis on the sandbox nature of the combat and of course a huge multiplayer component, arguably bigger than the single-player

>>715988823
Only for bad players

>>715988868
Unreal Engine won't fix their art style problem, but it may finally fix Halo's gameplay problem.

>>715988868
This. Only reason these companies are switching to UE5 is so they can outsource everything to India. That's literally THE reason. Couple of more years and game development will be 100% Indian and AI

>>715988990
Funny, because the "good" players playing the campaign still end up hiding like a cowardly bitch the moment their shields get depleted.

>>715989187
zero proof

>>715989187
I'll admit this does happen in speedruns occasionally but not most of the time. Most of the time they just keep going or are expected to get to no shields from the route.

>>715989282
Watch any campaign video that isn't Halo CE and everyone runs into cover every time their shields go down. Halo CE's campaign is the only Halo campaign that promotes aggression to a degree. Fix the health system and bring back the health packs.

>>715972695
The fact that Bungie managed to make a good FPS game on a console is what made Halo great, every console FPS afterwards copied Halo's control scheme exactly.

>>715990352
Nah there's no proof

>>715990504
For better or for worse. If Halo would have grabbed more from classic FPS and kept the health system from Halo 1, it could have been something special, but Halo 2 just drove a warthog off a cliff in every direction it took. Series never recovered and Halo 2 ended up damaging the entire FPS genre leading to COD4. Bungie constantly dumbing down FPS is why both them and Halo are in the place they are today. Karma's a bitch.

>>715991459
COD4 and MW2 are both good.

>>715991459
why are you so bad at halo 2

>>715991779
Kill yourself, cattle

>>715992087
Why is Halo 2 so bad at being both a sequel to Halo and an FPS game?

>>715992216
But it is sequel to Halo and a fps game

>>715991459

>Halo 2

The game that put MLG on the map and is widely considered one of the greatest competitive shooters ever made? That game? Lol shut up retard

>ITT: people who didn't have friends growing up talking shit about halo

>>715992680
This. I remember doing tunnel networking on gamespy arcade, and playing Halo 1 online against another xbox.. basically 4v4 CTF on blood gulch. Shit was obvious cash

>>715992553
The game that was completely dumbed down compared to CE.

>>715993235
Post your halo 2 gameplay

>>715993235
At one point, Halo 2 didn't have BR starts. Halo 1 always had Pistol starts.

>>715993294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocyYwLCDyCU

>>715971654 (OP)
I disagree, I played through the campaigns for the first time this year and they went from great, to somehow even better, before becoming a wet fart
t. 38 years old

>>715971654 (OP)
Indeed it's no masterpiece. It's only a 9/10

>>715993180
based.
one of my friends from school lived 2 streets over and his parents had just built a media room on their house with a huge ass projector huge plushy leather chairs, etc.
me and some other kids would go over to his house and play all the time. was awesome

>>715993679
I was on board until he busted out the Plasma Pistol and used that as the TTK example. Fantastic bait.

>>715993679
Retarded CEbab

>>715975087
the covenant look fantastic in CE
slim elites ftw

>>715992532
A shit one

>>715992553
>The game that put MLG on the map
You say this like this was a good thing.
>is widely considered one of the greatest competitive shooters ever made?
By who, faggot?

>>715993679
Based, Halo 2 was a piece of shit made for faggots who couldn't game.

>>715993994
The plasma pistol was banned on every map but 1. The noob combo was named that way because it was a completely effortless way to net kills against people that can't reasonably fight back.

>>715994128
Least obvious samefag

>this was the game that started it all
>a half finished rts turned fps with aim assist and health regen
You can't hate halo and pretend like any game on console is good

>>715994528
I can at least forgive Halo because it went through a rough development and transition through a Mac/PC game that was third person into a first person game that needed to work on consoles. What I can't forgive is what Bungie and Microsoft did to Halo after CE because that hurt the genre until 2016.

>>715994528
Quake contrarian youre still at it

>>715974224
wtf I don't rememberthere being wildlife in Halo 1

>>715995920
Bungie cut it like 343 cut it from Halo Infinite. It's things like this as to why I don't like Halo, wildlife would give life to the games and worlds while also making it unique to other shooters. Every time I see Halo, I see a rushed game.

>>715996109
I see what you mean, but I liked the feeling of an empty ring(planet). I think if there were animals it would feel like Turok