Thread 715992891

How long until Bananza is playable on pc?

Lol

>>715992891 (OP)
People are too scared to touch Switch 2 emulation.

>>715992891 (OP)
Probably a decade or more, if ever

While seething at Switch piracy for 7 straight years, they invested heavily in security features and tripled the size of their legal department in preparation for the Switch 2. You can bet your ass they're watching the homebrew scene like a hawk ready to take down any emulation projects before they can get off the ground (assuming the console is ever busted open in the first place)

>>715992891 (OP)
Never, just get a Switch 2 for Nintendo games, m8.

>>715992891 (OP)
Everytime you ask it's an addition 6 months

Never, Nvidia and Switch 2 security is 99.99% perfect

2-3 years, minimum

needs to be hacked first before that can happen

>>715992891 (OP)
In a perfect ideal world, never ever

>>715992891 (OP)
It's never gonna happen incel. Switch 2 can't be hacked and therefore games can't be dumped.

Security is perfected with Switch 2

2 more weeks

>>715992891 (OP)
It's funny seeing people slowly realize that the early hacking of the Switch due to a major hardware fuckup isn't the norm

>>715992891 (OP)
Do you think anyone want to crack the switch 2 especially now that we know the FBI are also involved in taking down piracy shit

>>715992891 (OP)
Buy a Switch 2 and try to crack it. Once you've done that, reverse engineer the GPU calls. Look at how much time has passed and add about 2-3 years to that. That's how long it'll take for Bananza to be playable on PC.

>>715992891 (OP)
12 years give or take

>>715992891 (OP)
I hate that I want to play Nintendo games but want Nintendo to fuck off. Why can’t they just whore themselves to gaben like Sony does?

>>715996118
The extraordinary circumstances behind the Switch (Tegra documentation from nvidia Shield, literal Tegra emulator, and the hardware vector with a paperclip) have legit spoiled people into thinking emulators aren't a decade-long reverse engineering project. The PS4 came out in 2013. We're just getting to fully playable Bloodborne now in 2025.
People feel entitled to Nintendo emulators because their consoles are less powerful and because fuck Nintendo. Fewer people are willing to actually buy a Nintendo console to try and crack it themselves. Emulation is based but emufags are cringe.

>>715994701
>>715994363
>>715996257
LMAO there's always some random hacker somewhere in Siberia who just doesn't give a fuck. Lawsuits mean nothing to that guy. I give it 2 year max

>>715996506
>extraordinary circumstances behind the Switch
And WiiU, and Wii, and DS, and 3DS. Extraordinary.

>>715996368
Because Nintendo are both competent developers and a competent publisher
Because Nintendo doesn't chase trends that are outdated by the time the game releases
Because Nintendo doesn't succumb to "MUH GRAPHIX"
Because Nintendo doesn't rely on "digital services" like microtransactions and subscriptions for the majority of their revenue
Because Nintendo has a much healthier profit than 6%

All we need is someone dumping the xci or nsp of the switch version that is available through download play.

>>715996561
It isnt about lawsuits. It's about them bricking your shit. That guy in Siberia is a poorfag who cant afford to buy 20 ninties.

>>715996782
>bricking
Nothing is bricked, they just cut off online features, the thing still works.

>>715996741
>switch version
???
Bananza is a SW2 only game anon

>>715996561
Didn't nintendo show up to the ryujinx devs house in brazil and pay him off? They'll just do that again

>>715996368
Nintendo never had any huge flops like PS3. Billions lost on PS3 and another 3.6 or 3.7 billion on Bungie. I don't think people understand how much money that is

>>715997003
There is a download play only version that runs on switch 1.
It has no HDR and less visual clutter.
It's only playable by having a switch 2 with bananza avail locally.
If we can extract that switch 1 version and dump it online, it's ggs.

>>715996652
It took most of them years to make their first games playable, compared to the Switch Emulator, which had playable games in a year, I would consider it extraordinary.

>>715997156
???
Share whatever thing you're smoking anon.

>>715997456
Ok show me gameplay of this alleged game share version

>>715997456
Is that an official nintendo source?
Even if its true, whatever is shared is just a small nsp/xci file that have basic functionallity, its by no means the full game whatsoever.
It was the same since the gba games where you could share mario kart

>>715997630
https://youtube.com/shorts/X_pIz9WCt_o?si=QSsZLf-pXgxnh-mK
Second half, I now remember seeing this footage from the direct, I knew I wasn't crazy

Just so you know, the switch 2 has 12 RT cores inside the shell. If a single game uses those cores for ANY rt-like systems ranging from audio to graphics it will be exponentially harder to emulate them.

>>715997874
>Shacknews
That was from the first direct but they probably backtracked, can't find any nintendo source stating otherwise

>>715997928
Why is that?

>>715997874
>>715997156
anon that's being streamed from the switch 2 to the switch 1, it doesn't actually run the game

>>715998208
Then why is the switch build a different one?
If it was just streaming, it would simply be streaming the same game with lower resolution and framerate so it can run on switch, but here? Different assets.

Never without bricking the system.

>>715996368

Fuck Gaben.

>>715992891 (OP)
Probably never because anyone competent enough to develop a Switch 2 emulator is afraid of Nintendo suing them. And there's no exploit for Switch 2 do the thing is a black box, you kinda need to know how something works to emulate it.

>>715998397
that image is just the devs showing an internal build running on the switch 1 to justify why it's switch 2 only

>>715998397
That's an early build of the game. It was originally a switch 1 game

>>715998529
So it will take a teraleak got it

>>715998397
Anon that's a prototype from the devs
https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/ask-the-developer-vol-19-donkey-kong-bananza-part-2/

>>715994701
emulation isn't illegal, never has been
yuzu got fucked because they were sharing roms and charging money to help hack rom files for a game that wasn't even released yet, had nothing to do with the emulator

I think emulation is going to hit a big roadblock this gen. There are very few exclusives nowadays so nobody is interested in emulating Sony consoles. Nintendo is going to sue anyone attempting to make an emulator unless it's like 2 generations old.
We'll probably see PS4 emulator develop somewhat so it boots the few PS4 exclusives and then grind to a halt because it's not an interesting system to emulate but a PS5 emulator may never exist until like 40 years in the future when someone makes it for fun. If Switch 2 emulator is made it's probably going to be by the time it's considered a retro console.
A big part of emulation was the fact that your library didn't carry forward. I can see the PS4 library being playable on PS6 and PS7. Same for Switch successors.

>>715999196
Actually, the emulator need to decrypt the game so now it falls under dmca if its help to circunvent that protection.

>>715999196
What stops Nintendo from paying off a Switch 2 emulator developer like they paid off gdkchan?
There aren't many people who can write an emulator. It'd cost Nintendo pennies to pay off or recruit these people.

>>715999445
>release emulator without decryption code
>some russian patches it in
solved

>>715999397
Doesn't this essentially kill all modern emulation if all games require decryption via on-console keys?
Do Sony and Microsoft do this already?

>>715999397
This is something people miss. You can make the emulator only work with decrypted ROMs, sure, but you can still be sued and you'll have to explain why do you develop software that can only ever be used with illegally decrypted ROMs and how did you acquire these ROMs to test your software. There is a precedent for something like this in courts.

>>715999523
Nintendo is the only one that cared because emulating a current gen system hurt sales, they are just barely emulating ps4 now

Putting aside if emulation is even feasible right now, let's say there's a working switch 2 emulator. It's reliable, and Nintendo hasn't taken it down. How much computing power are you actually going to need to run it? Who good will your graphics card and GPU need to be?

>>715999520
You don't understand how much work goes into developing an emulator and how much knowledge it takes. It cannot be done by some random schmuck. If there appears a promising Switch 2 emulator they'll just make the dev an offer they can't refuse like it happened with Ryujinx. And the people who do this won't do this in secret, they want clout and recognition.
Most emulators are made by people as passion projects and they couldn't give less of a shit about third worlders needing them to pirate vidya.

>>715999917
>they want clout and recognition.
Which gets them slapped down by the law.

Got a Switch 2, can I hack my Switch 1 or is it still risky?

>>715999792
You could easily emulate Switch 2 on current hardware if a good emulator existed because it'd be HLE. You wouldn't need a lot of GPU power and you could probably do full speed emulation on desktop Zen 5 chips.

>>715997084
Don't forget the major live service GAAS flops and cancellations. Actual billions lost there too. Snoys like to downplay Concord's $400 million flop, saying it didn't cost that much, but it clearly did considering the dev time, dev location, and the shill marketing it was supposed to receive. Fuck, I really wish Sony took a loan to buy the grand flop of all flops, Paramount. Too bad Skydance are retarding themselves for the acquisition instead.

>>715992891 (OP)
2-3 years.

>>715992891 (OP)
never, get a Switch 2

/thread

should I get a switch 2 bros? I haven't had a nintendo system since the gba

>>716001387
sure, to play switch 1 games and DK
nothing else to play though

>>715996782
They haven't bricked any switches dingus, the worst they've done is banning consoles.

>>715998116
what does little girls kissing each other on the lips have to do with that?

>>715992891 (OP)
Somewhere in Nintendo offices there's probably a PC version used during development.

>>715996652
3ds emu was in hell for like 8 years

>>715992891 (OP)
never. cry more.