Thread 716002057

>"Play on a PVP server bro, it's fun!"
>The "PVP"
/v/ will defend this

>>716002057 (OP)
Hillsbrad is rightful Horde clay.

>>716002057 (OP)
>Ally goes to horde questing zone
>WhY aM I GeTtInG KiLlEd??!
Fuck off

it's fun because they are in control and feel safe, but the moment you stomp their asses they get mad

PvP servers are for psychopath bullies stuck in a Sisyphus cycle

>>716002387
>Horde has dedicated questing zones just for them up to like 40
>Alliance hits 20, time to pray the 60 undead rogue took the day off from camping redridge

You should have used your premonition to know which PvP server would have a population balance that favours your faction, it's not hard

Doesn't matter you need 3 alliance players to kill an average horde player of the same level anyway, you'd get toast even alone.

>>716002993
Instead of being an autist screaming about how you can't do the elwynn > westfall > redridge > duskwood grind for the 100th time because you get killed a couple times in redridge, maybe level in one of the other alliance leveling zones for once.

>>716002057 (OP)
At least it's not a complete zero-sum game like full loot pvp MMOs (which all inevitably die due to player action and dev inaction)

>The "PVP"
it's always someone attacking you fighting a mob at 50% health. it's completely pointless. unless you're talking about group vs group pvp like erasing an enemy guild as they move to their raid every week. that shit is some of the most fun you can have in a video game.

>>716003643
>dev inaction
Why the fuck would you want dev action in a full loot pvp MMO? This sounds as retarded as pirate software having a temper tantrum when the EVE devs didn't give him special privilege for being a streamer.

>>716002057 (OP)
skill issue
stay in elwynn

>>716003575
>wetlands
>contested zone
>ashenvale
>contested zone

wetlands doesn't even have any horde quests or towns, why is it contested again? Why isn't the barrens contested?

>>716003575
Yeah sure I'll just level in that 20+ uncontested alliance zone
You know the one, that one that exists

>>716002057 (OP)
I played exclusively pvp servers for like 20 years, but after playing on a pve server i don't think i can go back.

There are no alliance players on classic PvP. Only bots.

>>716003930
I'm not talking about devs punishing people for pvping, I mean facilitating the sheep with things they can do that isn't just jumping right into the meat grinder.

>>716002057 (OP)
>level 30s
Would be more accurate if it was all max level characters.

>>716002057 (OP)
Wow wasn't even made with pvp in mind and open world pvp is dead across the entire genre because of vanilla wow's pvp system is just a gankfest so developers saw from all over that it being nothing but griefing only hurts potential sales and player engagement so its a dead activity. The issue is griefing is risk free and you only gain from wasting someones time with it. The only purpose of griefing is to ruin someone else trying to quest and make them logoff and the game incentivizes it since there is no reason not to do it as there isn't a crime system in WoW. Archage fought this by implementing a wanted system that made killing griefers a very well paying side gig. WoW could save PvP by implemented a bounty system that gives you a lot of gold or raid token currency for killing griefing players that kill low levels. I used to like open world pvp until I realized its mainly just a form of griefing that takes away from the game. Rarely is it 1v1 with someone in any fair setup against you.

>>716002057 (OP)
>/v/ will defend this
I will not defend that
WoW is fucking trash and you're a retard for playing it on any server at all

>>716003830
>Why isn't the barrens contested?
Why should it be? Alliance already have 1 more uncontested zone than the Horde.

>>716002057 (OP)
>>"Play on a PVP server bro, it's fun!"
no one says this

>>716003830
The barrens is the hordes westfall with durotar being the hordes elwynn.
>>716003875
As opposed to leveling in the contested alliance zone known specifically for getting camped by high level horde.

>>716004015
My aim. >>716003770

I LOVE KILLING PEOPLE

There never should've been PVE servers in World of WARCRAFT, a series where two factions BATTLE FOR DOMINANCE.

>>716004087
>Alliance already have 1 more uncontested zone than the Horde.
The Barrens counts as 2 and has a higher level range, you ponce.
Why is the Alliance ship to the other continent in a contested zone while for Horde it's right outside the capital cities?

>>716004169
The only zone at that level range Horde doesn't camp is Wetlands, which has like six quests and nothing interesting

>>716004298
Vanilla didn't even have a war between the two going on, it was minor skirmishes at best as both sides were still recovering after the Third War.

>>716004364
The Barrens is a single zone, faggot.

>>716004087
what do the skulls mean?

>>716004471
Yes but it counts as 2, can you read, noshoes?

>>716004298
pve is why wow is so gay now where horde and alliance are best friends and we have tranny dwarfs and gay lizards and shit like vulpera.

>2004
>game full of soul and mystery
>everyone figuring things out together
>organic, chaotic pvp, good chance of 1v1s
>form rivalries, make friends
>the only thing you need in common with a stranger is that you both play the same game
>people are cool and chill and match your 10 hours a day of gaming

>2025
>game fully datamined from patch preload
>meta guides plastered all over social media
>thousands of addons to eliminate all thinking involved
>everyone is in a discord, effectively silencing communication in the game
>have to wade through schizos and personality disorders to even think about making a new internet "Friend"
>to be apart of the clique you have to show your penis with timestamp
>pvp is structured, manufactured, and usually facilitated by ganksquads, you have no chance as a solo player

mmos are dead

>>716002057 (OP)
horde are worse than niggers

>>716004513
Dungeons.

>>716004513
Dungeons I think

In my many many years playing WoW I have maybe seen at most 5-7 horde players in the Wetlands. There really isn't a reason for Horde players to even go near there or any of the Dwarf zones, maybe if for whatever reason they really need to go from Badlands to Hinterlands. 98% of Horde players are either in northern EK or southern EK

>>716004585
>>716004586
cool

>>716002057 (OP)
Greened

>>716004364
Why do the Horde get a teleported into Gnomeragon while Alliance has to walk to Shadowfang Keep?

>>716002057 (OP)
>He fell for it

Well yeah, the psycopaths on PVP servers need you there so they can have fun at your expense.
Welcome to the meatgrinder, pal.

SOD taught me to never try to play alliance again. God damn are their cities dog shit compared to Hordechads.

DarnASSsus is the shittiest one of all time, I can't believe it is even considered a city. Horrible location AND a retarded as fuck design? Zoinks!

step 1
>be so genetically inferior as to run away from actual competitive PvP games (competitive FPS, fighting games, RTS, etc.) as you know you cannot compete

step 2
>play ultracasual MMOs made for children & women, all content is AI designed to lose to a bottom percentage player

step 3
>convince yourself said MMO is super duper hardcore to cope with playing the 3D equivalent of peggle

>>716004782
>while Alliance has to walk to Shadowfang Keep?
Or Scarlet Monastery

>>716004782
Why is MC and BWL right next to the alliances capital?

Alliance has its cities on the same continent as nearly every raid and they still have the gall to whine about the world being horde favored

>>716004782
>>716005016
are you going to complain about horde not being able to access VC/stockade and alliance not being able to do rfc/wc easily next?

>>716004782
>why isn't everything 100% equal
Because fun. Notice how WoW isn't fun anymore?

>>716005031
>get on zeppelin
>get on flight directly to MC and BWL
>3 flight paths closer than what the Alliance get
hmm

>>716002057 (OP)
My favorite part of this is based Chestnutz running in against hopeless odds for the sake of their kinsman.

I don't really give a fuck about dungeon placement in the overworld but each faction should have had at least one extra uncontested zone per continent.

>>716005115
No, because if you can count, those things both equal the same amount of things

>>716002057 (OP)
GO GET EM CHAMP

>>716005156
Alliance version:
>fly to Thorium Point
>run South
hmm

>>716005228
my fuarkin hero

>>716005228
whats the story with this nigger

>>716003952
I play a gnome rogue every chance I get
And camp stonetallon and sit in org picking off solo flaggers

The only unbalanced aspect I never really liked about vanilla WoW was how the alliance got all the PvE racials while horde got all the PvP ones. The unique priest skills per race was really cool.

>>716005228
OH LAWD HE COMING

>>716005115
Horde can access Deadmines way easier than Alliance can access those
And SFK has a fucking Paladin quest that sends you there

>>716002057 (OP)
This image made my peepee hard

Why is it always the fucking Yeti cave?

>>716005321
>how the alliance got all the PvE racials while horde got all the PvP ones
are you stupid?

>>716005321
Troll unironically has some really good PvE racials.

>>716004782
Why do the horde have Zeppelins that are guarded by max level guards but the alliance has boats that have ether no guards or low level fuards

>>716005342
>Horde can access deadmines easier than Alliance can access wailing caverns
wut

>>716005442
What did troll get? I don't remember. Some shitty regen and a curse skill on priest? Never really paid much attention to that race in general.

>>716005518
>10% increased health regen, 10% health regen in combat
>5% more damage to beasts (something you fight like 90% of the time besides humanoids)
>Bow Spec.
>Berserking
>Throwing Spec. (lol)

>>716005518
They have the best damage racial ability in the game, Berserking. As expected of a Horde complainer, you list every single little factoid except the most relevant one (which you, without a doubt know, because you know the race all the way down to the fucking racial priest ability). Embarrassing.

Horde are significantly stronger in Classic, a solved game, so there's no need to lie on the internet anymore.

>>716005031
Same reason Strat, Scholo, and Naxx are right next to a Hrode capital but half a continent away from the Alliance.

>>716005228
>sees 6 horde ganging up on 1 alliance
>"god damn horde"
>charges in, despite the odds, to help his fellow alliance bro
What an absolute fucking GIGACHAD

>>716005674
>>716005710
I still think Dwarf Priests were better in general. That priest fear ward was insane on top of their racial stoneform.

>>716005237
>WAAAAAH THE ALLIANCE GET ONE SINGLE CONVENIENCE WAAAAH
lmao meanwhile

BFD:
Horde FP right outside dungeon
SM:
Horde FP right outside dungeon in non-contested zone
Scholo/Strat/Naxx
Horde capital 2 minutes away
AQ
Horde capital 2 minutes away
ZF
Horde capital 2 minutes away
GNOMER
Horde teleporter direct to dungeon
RFK/RFD
Horde FP 1 minute away, in non-contested zone
SFK
Horde FP 1 minute away, in non-contested zone
MARA
Horde FP 1 minute away
DM
Horde FP 1 minute away
ST
Horde FP 1 minute away

EVERY SINGLE CONTESTED ZONE IN THE GAME BAR ONE:
Horde FP directly in the middle of it

>>716005321
Horde's racials are also better for PvE.

>>716004106
Good ol reckoning bomb

>>716005674
The health regen is fucking meaningless
>lol im regenerating 8 health per second and there's nothing you can do about it!

nothing more satisfying than ganking a fully buffed running to his raid

>>716005883
Stack that with a troll's blood potion and it's pretty comfy honestly.

>>716005801
Horde doesn't need Fear Ward because they have Tremor Totem. Which doesn't prevent it but works on a group and can prevent multiple fears (and works on other disabling effects). Dwarf priest was only so good because it was Alliance's only option and the other Alliance priest racials fucking suck.

>>716005801
>stoneform
You fucking serious? The priest isn't taking damage in PvE anyway. The more you post the more retarded you sound, grasping for a reason, ANY reason you can think of to explain why Alliance is supposedly better.

You wanna know what makes alliance better? It's blessing of salv. That's it. Everything else about the faction is inferior to Horde.

>>716005951
ahhh fuck you made me remember how party-wide buffs cost reagents fuckkk youuuuu

>>716002057 (OP)
PvP realms in WoW used to be fairly balanced in the distant past.

alliance raiding with pally buffs is pussy mode

>>716005031
>Heartstone
>Mount up
>Youre at Ragnaros
Alliance cant do that

>>716005504
>Alliance to WC
Swim to Booty Bay, boat to Ratchet, long populated walk from Ratchet to WC, or head through Ashenvale and Northern Barrens which always is full of hordenigs
>Horde to DM
Boat to Booty Bay, swim to Westfall, short run to the entrance, only place that's populated is the entrance

>>716002057 (OP)
>ib 4seconds left
>blink 3s cd
>nova up
>warrior friend mid-charge to steal hunter aggro
skill issue

>drop block early to surprise
>nova
>mana shield
>blink
>poly anyone other than druid
>hunter/warlock/likely 1 more focused on warrior
>run and reset
your only real problem is the 28 druid but you're clearly 33+ and can likely resist a lot of what he does
run back to southshore and reset and come back for blood

the issue isnt pvp, the issue is you're bad at the video game

>>716005518
Trolls unironically have some of the best racials in the game and people have slept on them for so long.
>Extra damage against beasts
>One of the oldest races on the planet
>Big attack speed buff
>Evolved to not need filthy shoes
>Literally FREE health regen that you CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT
>Health regen in combat generates a bit of AoE threat if you're tanking
They're the master race.

>>716006221
You have never PvPd outside of battlegrounds in your life

>>716005518
Berserking is the best racial in the game, by a very wide margin

>>716006306
The mage in OP's pic did indeed escape.

>>716006221
yeah the other anon is right, you're a dumbass and will die before your first gcd from the nova is up

>>716005228
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWRaAF6_WY

>>716004570
When I played vanilla WoW I was 14 years old and the youngest in the guild by far. Everyone was really nice to me and treated me like the kid of the group, but in a good way. I really felt like I belonged and I raided with them every week and would look forward to school breaks when I could no life the fuck out of the game.
I remember trying to play again many years later and when a 16 year old wanted to join the guild the entire guild revolted against the idea and basically wanted him crucified for even trying.

Just a small anecdote, but man people really became assholes.

>>716006221
>a mage can get off all of those spells before a hunter is able to do 100 damage
>much less the several other dudes waiting for his ass
I know mages are OP but come on, now.

>>716006259
That's Blood Craze proc'ing, not Troll passive regen.

>>716006439
>but man people really became assholes
for each of you there were 20 snotty entitled brats that contributed nothing so it's not surprising banning kids was the norm

never met a non based Troll player

>>716006221
The hunter would arcane shot you and then the entire group would turn on the warrior and destory them. It was hopeless

>>716006439
Cannot imagine how hard a teenager would nuke the vibes of a raiding guild. Pass

>>716006025
blessings in general are way better and shaman were useless trash healers until the final patch buffed chain heal to the moon by making it actually bounce

99% of classic wow had shaman as windfury totem bots

>>716006306
>>716006397>>716006435
>>716006446

2k hours on mage, most in open wpvp, sorry that you can't win with the best class in the game, skill issue

the saving grace of the image is the warrior coming in to steal attention, look at the picture, half the horde are afk/not autoattacking so no you're not gonna eat and attack and the hunter is a mouth-breather who will turn to fight the warrior (therefore untargeting you) before you drop your IB
the only thing that will hit you is the pet auto, which at ~30 is gonna do less than 100hp and maybe the druid if he's smart and starts spamming moonfire, but chances are he'll shapeshift to get out of the nova and waste his gcd

its always hilarious to me how fucking bad at this game this entire board is and how 95% of their complaints about its pvp systems are rooted in skill issues, which is really sad because the game does have flaws

>>716002057 (OP)
Unironically a skill issue. You had to be there in its prime to understand.

716006676
people in their 30s should be better at baiting

>>716006471
Do not undermine my narrative, it's both.

>>716006667
I was one of the more mechanically skilled players (as much as it required) but due to school I wasn't able to farm as much as the others except during breaks.
I am sure part of it was that I knew how to not talk 24/7, which I am sure lead to a lot of people not liking younger guild members cause kids can talk a lot. I didn't even have a mic for the first few months, and when I got one I was still relatively shy and mostly just used the in game chat. They really knew I was a kid not cause I was in squeaking in vent, but because I'd say "I have to get off cause it is a school night"

>>716006259
>One of the oldest races on the planet
>Evolved to not need filthy shoes

Trolls are the indians of Azeroth

>>716006221
he has 100hp left and the only thing protecting him is a shitty mana barrier. if you use nova first you will die for it.
your best bet is to spam blink, cold snap and ice block again and when they swap to the warrior you break block and then use spells.

>>716005228
OP tries to make pvp servers sound bad while simultaneously showing why they are so fucking peak.

>>716002057 (OP)
This is the reason classic servers ended up segregating themselves by faction so you have essentially mono-faction servers now. World PVP is cool on paper but losers suck all the fun out of it.

>>716006221
He has hardly the mana to do anything, he can nova them and hope the hunter actually sucks and wont do shit, warlock is getting distracted 100% but the druid can just chase him down by pressing one button

pvp in any MMO is always miserable I don't know who enjoys that shit other than whales

>>716007030
>whales
That word has no bearing in this discussion.

>>716002057 (OP)
i always see the most complaints from shitty users from pvp servers. topics about getting ninja'd and all sorts of stupid shit. i read it and if you dig its always the pvp servers. the pvp servers arent the problem. its the userbase

>>716006676
Okay, Maldavius. Whatever you say.

>>716007030
>whales
I don't think you've ever played wow pvp

>>716002057 (OP)
>mid to late lvl 30s (probably 36)
>has a warrior at least lvl 35-40 besides you
>and another probably mid 30s near you in party
>>losing to a bunch of lvls 28-29
you're a fucking loser lmao
I knew alliance was bad but not this bad

>>716007302
I have self respect so no

>>716006572
I'm stealthed waiting for a horde to come by to add to the bone pile

>>716007325
You're on 4chan so no, you don't.

>>716002603
>>716002057 (OP)
>>716002504

I subscribed to WoW from TBC to BFA doing nothing but getting to max level and spending hours corpse camping low levels and spitting on the. They they brought in fucking war mode and ruined everything.
Then I got to do it all over again in classic (minus the spitting). Thank you Blizzard. Thank you.

>>716002057 (OP)
>create group of your own or get guildies/friends
>return to kill the horde
Yes, PVP is fun. If you want to play an MMO like it's a singleplayer game, reconsider the genre you're playing. Players who don't want to interact with other players are what is wrong with current MMOs and MMO design. That and Blizzard letting PVP servers reach massively lopsided faction populations. Fucking retards

>>716007695
>Blizzard letting PVP servers reach massively lopsided faction populations.
players own fault, they dont want an even fight, they want to shit on people

>>716007823
At some point it's not even that. It's an
>I am tired of getting one-sidedly bodied and will leave servers or swap factions to no longer have this problem
issue as well. Regardless, leaving everything to people's agency is retarded. The developers need to take measures to prevent players from ruining their own experience because many players retards and or faggots who will do shit like try to create massively uneven factions.

>>716007778
>Put on tankiest PvP gear
>Put on shield
>Hop in defensive stance
>Fly to menethil
Yep, its 2v1 killing rogue niggs time

>>716007030
Go back

>>716007695
Players did that to themselves. If Blizzard enforced faction-balanced servers, there would just be a mass exodus off PVP servers instead. The bottom line is, given the choice the majority of people don't actually want to PVP, or at least not in the environment that PVP servers breed. People like the idea of big faction wars over Southshore and shit, but when it just devolves into being endlessly spawn camped by nolifers, it's just not fun for anybody but the spawn camper.
Unironically the best course of action is probably to introduce War Mode. #nochangers would cry about it, but it would mostly solve the issue.

>>716004298
PVP kills mmos

>>716008071
>there would just be a mass exodus off PVP servers instead
No there wouldn't. You'd lose some fags, but you'd probably gain people overall who were otherwise pushed away by Discordfaggots trying to take over servers. This headcannon of everyone on PVP servers wanting incredibly imbalanced factions needs to stop. Yes, some do want that, but way more people don't want to be the faction constantly getting owned with no hope because they're outnumbered 3:1 or worse. If you don't see the difference between the two, you are beyond reason.

>>716004059
Why would someone roll on a PvP server if they know their time will be wasted?

>>716008154
Maybe but not for WoW. Classic was:
>50% leveling
>30% pvp
>20% raiding
Over time leveling and pvp focus shifted to raiding and, well, WoW has been shit for a long time.

>>716008154
Aren't PvP servers like a fraction of PvE servers though? How do PvP servers kill PvE servers?

Southshore vs Tarren Mill was peak vanilla PVP

>>716005817
It's a shame that for the first 25 levels, the Alliance zones mog the Horde zones in every possible way
Otherwise there'd be no reason to not play Horde

The people who play on PvE servers are the same people who still play retail

>>716008305
i meant that specifically as a response to his claim that there should be no pve, or at least that it shouldn't be the focus.
>>716008295
pvp inevitable causes players to quit, or at least to go do something else, which is why pve almost always becomes the focus and why pvp centric games die.

>>716005318
rogue v rogue in cities is so kino. I used to patrol Undercity and Stormwind getting into fights.

>>716008450
There is no reason not to play Horde.

Anyone who plays Alliance in classic has sunk cost fallacy/nostalgia/likes the aesthetics. Gameplay wise, it has nothing and on a PvP server you're actively fucking yourself.

t.Alliance player

>>716008876
Alliance has cheaper bots

>>716006667
All the greatest MMORPGs are designed in such a way that a couple of 15 year olds who know what they're doing can drag a bunch of drunk retarded stoned 30-50 year old gamer dads through high end content.

>>716008203
You're making the assumption that factions become unbalanced just because one faction wants to gang up on the poor defenseless other faction, but the reality is it begins because people are tired of being ganked and spawn camped in the first place, so they try to bolster their numbers until they do overwhelm the other faction. Which in the end might result in the scenario you're describing, but it happens initially because people don't like being griefed, end of story. A lot of people roll on PVP servers expecting some epic faction wars they heard stories of, only to find out it just means they're gonna get camped by some nolifer for hours on end and be unable to play the game unless they rally discord or whatever. Maybe PVP servers wouldn't completely die if you enforced faction balance, but they certainly would never be as big as PVE servers in that case. If there was a way for Blizzard to enforce people griefing and spawn camping, they might be more popular, but there's no real way to do that. Unfortunately, a small handful of people ruin world PVP for everybody else. And I find those same people are usually the same ones complaining when players decide they're fed up with it and segregate.

>>716008876
>likes the aesthetics
Thats literally reason enough
furry fuckers

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>>716008876
Nah, Goldshire, Dun Morogh, Westfall, and Duskwood are fucking peak levelling

>>716008876
okay so it might take 30 minutes to go to dire maul, and you don't get windfury, and you might get raped repeatedly in every pvp setting, but umm...you have the best healer class! (lol)

Paladins are the niggers of wow

WoW world PvP needs one massive change: reduce the arbitrary miss chance against higher level players

not talking about equalizing damage or hp or anything like that, just remove the miss chance so a group of lower level players can fight back

will they win? probably not, but it's more fun for everyone if they actually stand a chance of winning, more likely they'll actually fight back which is also more fun for the higher level player

>>716006672
Chain Heal always bounced. What made it better was that it actively targeted low health players. Same reason that T1 went from being complete shit to being unremovable pre T3 as the 8 piece basically let you spam downranked Greater Healing Waves for a better return than Chain heal.
>>716006201
>horde to DM
Never got why. Its a waste of time. You can literally run WC 2-3 times and get better and more consistent rewards in that time. Unless you REALLY want thats Smite's Hammer or Cruel Barb, both of which are comparable or worse than the guarantee WC quest rewards, there's no reason to even consider it as Horde. Alliance gets a shitton of quests there but Horde get nothing.
Same reverse for SFK where Horde get a killer ring and a few quests but Alliance only go for the Paladin quest and some negligible loot unless you are a priest/druid for the cloth/Rogue for Meteor Blade.

>>716002057 (OP)
Aren't most PvP servers something like 80% horde nowadays for Classic? I remember Vanilla it was fairly balanced.

>>716009070
Westfall is honestly one of the worst 10-20 zones in the game. Elwynn, Dun Morogh, and Duskwood are all great though. Even Darkshore is pretty good.

>Undead and Night Elves were the races that were placed in a continent where the other races of their faction have no presence
>Undead can take a Zeppelin straight from Tirisfal Glades into Orgrimmar (and STV) if a low level Undead wants to go level in the Barrens with his friends, or just in general wants to go back from his home in Undercity to the main Horde city Orgrimmar
>That Zeppelin also lands the entire Horde 20 seconds run away from the best leveling dungeon in the game for the hardest leveling levels in the game (Scarlet Monastery)
>Night Elves get a boat to Wetlands and corpserun for hours to get to Ironforge
Totally no Horde bias there.

>>716009196
the real injustice honestly is that Alliance needed to walk past undercity to get to SM
but Horde got a free teleporter into Gnomer

like, why is it okay to force one side to have to run past an enemy capital and the other not?

>>716009196
Yes it is mentally retarded. People just copy streamers. The loot is not good. People even die on Hardcore trying to get there...jfc

I have played this game for 5 years after launch, and 2 years of classic.
I have never rolled an alliance toon, never will. I'm not that much of a faggot

>>716005540
Why was he flagged?

Also, that pyroblast lol

>>716009318
don't forget druids HAVE to make that trek at a low level to get aquatic form

>>716008876
Was Ruin the only battlegroup where Alliance completely shit on the Horde 9 times out of 10? My server was pretty balanced until that shit started.

>>716009439
cool, here's your biggest autist medal for refusing to try new things!!

>>716009540
Did your boyfriend tell you the same when he told you about trying his dragon dildo?

>>716005321
>The unique priest skills per race was really cool
If you wanted to get people to not invite you to raids because you weren't a Dwarf and didn't have Fear Ward, yea.

>>716009439
But you are that much of a faggot to play WoW for 5 years, quit and then come back for another 2

>>716003643
First of all, nearly all mmos are dead or in maintenance mode at best. All the hundreds that have been made throughout the years. Singling out full loot mmos is completely dishonest. Especially when themepark mmos are 10x more likely to fail than pvp mmos. Secondly, full loot pvp mmos fail because all of them have been made by small, amateur dev teams on shoestring budget. It has little to do with the concept of "full loot pvp", and all to do with these games themselves being dogshit, buggy and unfun to play at the core.

Full loot pvp mmos were never given a proper chance by studios with the means and talent to make a decent game, precisely because of this self fulfilling prophecy logic permiated amongst mmo players
>we're not going to make a full loot pvpve mmo because they all tend to fail therefore it's too risky
Say the devs who then spend 5-10 years making a themepark mmo that dies within a month, but somehow it's pvp mmos that have this stigma around them? PVP hating queers have completely gaslit the mmo community with their bullshit lies. It's even more ridiculous because pvp games are by far the most popular type of game on every gaming platform. Steam/PC, playstation, xbox, nintendo, mobileshit. The most popular games are online pvp games. People (men) like competing against each other. It's fun. Don't even give me the usual spiel about griefing and unfairness. No games are completely fair with an even playing field. A properly designed full loot pvp mmo would have mechanisms in place to keep the game from going to absolute shit by schizophrenic NEETs. Fucking Rust has been in daily top 10 of most played games on steam for over a decade now, and it's more hardcore and psychopathic than any pvp mmo. People clearly like this concept. It just hasn't been properly executed because of gaslighting pve trannies and Karens who have completely taken over and destroyed the mmo genre.

>>716009607
I quit because halfway through wrath the game got boring.
I came back classic, got to rank12, had my fun in a few BWL runs, sodomized a bunch a gnome I'm done and happy

>>716009714
I love that Rust is your example because yeah, that game is fucking terrible, famously cancerous, and it's exactly what a PvP mmo would look like. The first clique to form on a server terrorizing everyone else until the server dies or they get bored.

>>716009196
>Never got why. Its a waste of time.
Because variety and because a lot of people like DM specifically. I corpse dragged to do RFC as Alliance in Classic because I have a soft spot for the first dungeon I ever did.
>skipping SFK as Alliance
Soulless behavior. SFK is fucking cool. If you don't want to do the haunted castle dungeon because it's not optimal, you're a faggot and everything wrong with the MMO audience today.

>>716008876
I'd be happy playing horde if their capitals weren't all shit. Undercity is the closest thing the horde has to a good capital but its layout out all retarded making you swerve thru halls or go thru a retarded elevator to get in or out.

>>716009714
I see you crawled out of /vm/.

>>716002057 (OP)
It is fun, you are a fucking homosexual pussy afraid of any and all confrontation and it's why you hide on /v/

>>716002057 (OP)
Chestnutz the homie is on his way to 1v6 them.

>>716002993
Classic had shit design that was stacked heavily in the horde's favor. SoD made this abundantly clear when you tried to go to Ratchet. Horde would camp there 24 hours a day. Horde get cozy albeit ugly af leveling zones where alliance are thrown to the wolves in their teens and God forbid if they want to do Wailing Caverns.

>>716010425
yea i'm the one afraid of confrontation not the guy too chicken to pvp without 5 of their friends backing them up lmao.

It's funny how mmo pvp always devolves into ganking or running around in a gang to outnumber people. That's what happens when the genre selects for people too cowardly to play something like a fighting game.

>>716010814
>Classic had shit design that was stacked heavily in the horde's favor

>>716010918
>That's what happens when the genre selects for people too cowardly to play something like a [completely different genre of game that is about as far from an RPG as you can get]
lmao

>>716009714
Why are amateur MMO teams incapable of enabling safeguards against the meatgrinder when they have all these examples of failed attempts and games falling into the same exact pitfalls and traps their contemporaries do? Same with the three hundred million WoW Killer MMOs that didn't understand they couldn't just copy WoW and suddenly steal a huge chunk of the playerbase. Apparently Albion is doing pretty well but that's because it actually facilitates people who want a sandbox experience without constantly being raped, but I don't think it counts as a full loot game since there are safe zones.

>>716010814
And then there were those who played both and weren't shit at the game

>>716008450
>do you want to play an ugly character?
>do you want to level in ugly zones?
>do you want to be the baddie?
Play horde. The devs probably all played horde, which is why all their flight paths and shortcuts to instances were so damn convenient.

>>716008232
Because that's where the best raiding guilds typically are. That's literally the only reason. Most of wows issues lie within raiding

>>716011408
How would a new player know that?

>>716010986
honorable duels are one of the oldest rpg tropes there is, ganging up on someone 6v1 is nigger shit, lmao indeed.

>>716002057 (OP)
they're just helping you live up to your name

PvP used to be good but now everyone knows they need to be a stealth class enchanted to shit or in a gank squad (also enchanted to shit). Nobody just attacks. The community has killed it

>>716002057 (OP)
>pvp happened on a pvp server
>should I get a group together and fight back?
>no, I'll just be a little bitch and cry on /v/ instead

>>716011556
New players are not the same retard new players from 15 years ago. People look everything up nowadays. You'd be surprised how many people look up all the meta slave shit before they even touch the game. Classic Vanilla has probably one of the most if not the most mentally ill playerbases in the genre. They think on average raid logging and paying for gold from chinese people is completely normal. It's encouraged. They don't call Nightslayer "Nightswipers" for nothing.

>>716002057 (OP)
>two human females grouped, at least one of them a mage, posting on 4chan

No. Bullshit. I call bullshit. You were running around ganking with your boyfriend, probably killing grays, and you got jumped by a vindictive group. You probably killed everyone in that group at least a few times. You get what you deserve

>>716008203
>everyone on PVP servers wanting incredibly imbalanced factions needs to stop
it happens on every single pvp game anon.

the problem is the game, not the mode

I played for a few months early this year on spineshatter (pvp), we got grouped with a pve server in AV..


I have never seen anything more retarded than these fucking zombie-golem people, revolting

>>716012662
Had the same experience with Nightslayer. It's just terrible raid logging dads in their 30s-50s that schedule a few days a week to do Molten Core and do AV and avoid pvp. It's no wonder Blizzard just doesn't give a shit anymore.

>>716002057 (OP)
look at that warrior chad running in to help

>>716012459
>the other person in the party is so far away that it's still using the default picture
>they MUST be working together to gank the more populated faction somehow
???

>>716013424
First thing I noticed, that guy is running into a group of upper 20s players by himself coming to assist. What an absolute beast. Warrior mindset is the most Chad mindset

>>716004106
You know, rogues have it pretty tough.

>>716009318
on blizzard classic realms you can do an account page hearthstone and itll put you at the ironforge entrance
also if you're not playing hardcore you can swim west along the coastline from menethil until your zone changes then you can drown or die from fatigue then gy rez in dun morogh

>>716005228
>>716005774

I like pvp servers because theyre faction locked. It makes your character and faction feel like it means something. Sometimes you get fucked up playing Pvp, the solution isnt to ragequit and post online about how Pve is the only way to play

>>716012405
I seriously doubt someone who chooses to start playing WoW today is going to look up the best raiding guilds before choosing a server. Now *that* is retarded.

Hello again, a couple of weeks ago I wrote that my friends and I were banned for playing PVP against the mafia and gold sellers (a fresh classic Spineshatter server), namely the blizzard system banned us, there were massive reports. Well, what I want to say is that we wrote to the support service, the support service did not respond for a long time, but in the end we didnt get any human answer . We are not media persons, not popular streamers, but just ordinary players, but as I said, we managed to collect some evidence of what is happening. The first screenshots show our rogues(Tyrand, Eclass and Deadpiggy), we just show that we were engaged in PvP, then the screenshots show discord booster, where they call for mass reports our characters, and also in the screenshot there is a call to the general chat in the game, where they also demand to report our characters. There are about 700 discord players in the Booster community, even if 50-60 of these 700 players are active and each of them has multiple accounts, I think that's enough to get us banned because of their complaints. People should know that you can easily be banned for this, but the Blizzard administration will turn a blind eye to it, and you won't be able to prove anything, good luck to everyone. Someone can say do appeals, but after 2-3 times they permaclosed accounts. We were raiding with our guild , ranking r14 and after massreports it wasted

nice 'pvp' game wowbabs

pvp is the only fun thing to do in this godforsaken game
idk how so many players enjoy sitting and memorizing mechanics which is all pve is