Roses are red
Violets are blue
Remove random crits
From TF2

>>716067013 (OP)
You didn't ask nicely so random crits won't be removed. Sorry.

wtf is the point of minicrits
fucking gacha game retarded mechahnics in shooter games

random crits will always be funny, stay mad shitter

>claims to be a veteran
>didn't start playing the game until SIX YEARS after it came out

Uncle "We Must Secure A Future For White Children" Dane is a faggot

>Remove Random Crits From TF-ACK

>>716067013 (OP)
If he doesn't like random crits, why doesn't he play a game without them?

>>716067490
and this is why I hate tourist faggots the most
>starts playing new game
>"wahh this sucks it needs to change to be like (other game)"
then go play that other game you fucking niggerfaggot holy shit

>>716067013 (OP)
Wish granted. Now every hit is a critical hit for every player except you, and none of your hits will ever be critical hits. It is no longer random. So you have wished it, so it shall be.

>>716067339
>tfw I have two years seniority on him
Faggot Dane the Poser Main

You now remember this dude himself said for some reason that he looks like a sex predator (and he's right)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s2Cts5P6Ok

>half the kills with the ambassador are sniping
>more than half the time the ambassador is out is to try to snipe

idk why zesty and everyone who seethes about the nerf are trying to rewrite history telling all these people who started playing during the pandemic that "nobody was using the old ambassador to snipe bro, trust!"
anyone who complains about the nerf clearly did since if they truly were only using it in short range like you'd use the stock revolver then they wouldn't be bitching because you can still 102 from that range

>>716068309
The glasses frame really does not help at all. Nor does the moustache. With a hairline that bade, he's dealt a bad hand, but the glass are too heavy and bold.

they're not actually random you get them for doing the most consecutive damage on your team

>>716067013 (OP)
This guy is gay but the pseudo-elitist contrarianism in defending random crits is more gay

>>716068309
>for some reason
The moustache.

>>716068616
So? Headshotting turtle engies was better for the game, a nerf was needed but the range is too worthless and now pyros+snipers+engies camping is too strong in pubs

>>716068642
even with the balding he still looks better than when he was shaving his head
i dont understand why people shave their heads, a shitty hairline and hell even thinning hair look better than a full blown kneehead imo

>>716068851
It works better for some people than others, for him, I'd agree, a bald look would be worse.

Random crits are not fair because more skilled players get extremely high crit rates compared to low skill players
Random crits are not balanced because many weapons get objectively better crits (minigun, rocket launcher) than others (revolver, scattergun)

>>716068815
it basically turned you into a discount sniper that could get positioned behind enemy lines
it was cancer and i'm glad they nerfed it, now it's a short-mid range weapon that can do better than stock if you can aim, how revolvers should be

>>716067013 (OP)
If random crits as a mechanic survived the competitive update, the update which turned the entire game inside out for the purposes of making it an esport, what makes anyone believe there is any chance that valve will ever remove them?

>>716068979
eh even if you're handsome and can pull off the bald look, i still think you'd look better with a trevor phillips thinning hair
look at jack nicholson

>>716068616
TFTubers are all post-F2P cunts nowadays

>>716069446
zesty alledgedly started playing in 2009
look idc if people disagree with the nerf, that's fine, but don't try to pretend people weren't usually trying to snipe with the old amby
it's pretty evident when the only thing that was nerfed about the ambassador was the sniping

>>716069253
All of the melee weapons that had been balanced around random crits got fucked with which was the final step before the nuclear option

but random crits are funny

>>716067013 (OP)
Tourneyfags already did enough damage.

If I ran a server I would make it so you are forced to schadenfreude any time you get a crit kill (including non random crits)

>>716067013 (OP)
Reminder that this fag was behind the bot crisis

>"ooga booga remove random crits goo goo gaga uncompetitive"
Alternative solution: Nerf the crits. The fact that critical hits can be rigged to be near guaranteed because you were doing damage is some bullshit design for something that is supposed to be random and thoroughly luck based. The skullcutter is the prime reason to look at what the fuck went wrong with Random crits because all it takes is one good charge for the rest of your axe chops to have a 60% chance to fucking crit and that is some nonsense (even if i myself was a dirty skullcutter user because the thing is a funny spawncamping tool for demoknight).
If random crits were truly random, they would be far more tolerable than they currently are, for how much people want to talk about "BUT THEY BREAK STALEMATES" shit, nobody talks about how random crits are how pubstomping rollouts happen where one team just goes uncontested.

And let's be fucking honest, Soldier is 100% the prime suspect for random crit bullshit because a crocket is basically like the Nuke from Shadow Warrior, you aim at one direction and everything within a big bubble is going to turn into a fine red paste, if the rocket launcher didn't have a humongous blast radius, nobody would give a shit about crit rockets. But i already know sollyfags would bitch and moan at the idea of balancing their braindead class so no point in trying to argue about it.

>>716068616
The next step of the argument after people notice this will be "who cares, it was fun"

>>716071378
schizos that are capable of ruining games do not have the charisma nor work ethic to make a successful youtube channel

>>716071613
Well, Uncle Dane definitelt has no charisma.

>>716067013 (OP)
Zesty Jesus and 2FortTwerkers OWN HIM

>>716067212
Still has falloff and agknowladges resistances.

>>716071742
yes he does, otherwise he wouldn't have a decently big youtube channel

>>716067013 (OP)
How is my holiday put ch supposed to work without random crits?

>>716068616
It wasnt that big of a deal. It existed but its difficult, not always useful when barriers existed, and you are still the squishiest class in the game.

>>716069290
There's few feelings that can top a cool breeze on a freshly shaven head.

>>716067013 (OP)
Let the default weapons keep them, or at least the default melees so they have something

All hitscan guns should crit on headshot

>>716071918
He has one because retards think the guy that roleplays as their creepy uncle knows anything about game balance.

>>716072370
you know nothing

>>716067212
Minicrits negate damage falloff and benefit from damage rampup (but didn't on launch)
Do you really think that Jarate causing full crits would have been remotely fair?

>>716067013 (OP)
Random crits are annoying to die to but if you're malding in a casual match for any reason you've already lost tbqh
>t. exclusively uses a main weapon which cannot critically hit

>>716074967
Based cow mangler main.

>>716074967
No, you've lost.
>rage switches to sniper

>>716068616
This video is so embarrassing.

>finally convince a big group of friends (7+me) to play tf2 together
>remember that we can't join the same server from steam anymore (probably something they did to appeal to shitubers)
>remember i have to deal with a shitty party system
>remember it's limited to 6
>remember it forces us all into the same team when we just wanted to play against each other evenly

>>716071985
Being squishy and difficult doesn't really matter when you're outside of everyone's effective range and can go invisible. Adding damage resistance to all watches was really the thing that threw it over the line though.
I remember so many instances of Spies sneaking up to the top of the tall barn on the second to last point of Barnblitz, taking potshots at everyone below, and just disappearing to come back later if anyone tried to chase him down.

>>716075716
Thanks anon. Cow mangler is unironically goated and a direct upgrade over stock

>>716075858
>hits you with a charge shot from a peeked corner across the map, knocking you up into the air, hitting you for 100 damage with no falloff, lighting you on fire, and then you take 20 fall damage, killing you in the process
Pssh, nothin personnel, kid......

>>716076319
if i pull out a minisentry will you die?

Timeloop TF2 thread

>>716076781
It would be extremely painful.

>>716067013 (OP)
demanding the entire game bend to your whims when the entire game is very much modular and can be played however you want is peak narcissism. you don't like random crits, play on servers with them disabled. it's that simple

>>716077094
Especially deranged when he already runs his own servers
It's like compniggers complaining about unlocks when they're never planning on playing on Valve's servers

>>716071480
Same goes for Random Crits

>>716067013 (OP)
>Idubbbz fluffer
No thanks

>>716076147
and all the community servers are just redirect pay-to-win cancer with mods that ban you for killing them too many times

>>716071742
Idk anon, he might be pullin Idubbbz' wife after she brought up his cock. He might have game, bro.

Wait... Idubbbz' Dane is Uncle Dane? Huh, never made that connection. Probably doesn't help that the only time I ever interacted with the podcast is through drama slop live stream I listen to while grinding.

>>716067013 (OP)
I'm still surprised the bullshit about "trickle-down balance" didn't immediately get him the social equivalent of being concrete-oil-drum'd.
>we should balance for comp because it won't negatively affect casual
>my prime example?
>an item that's only a problem in comp because nobody runs the many items/classes that counter it, like in casual
>and axshually the only reason why you don't think it's a problem is because casual players are tards that can't use it right
Like how the fuck did TF2tards not find that insulting as fuck

>>716078446
Everyone knows matchmaking players are glue huffing retards, especially other matchmaking players

>>716071985
>you are still the squishiest class in the game.
spy is objectively not the squishiest class in the game with kunai/DR

>>716078276
Yeah, they've known eachother for years. First time this came up was back when Dane used to do podcast-like videos on his channel.
https://youtu.be/6VmvItzjvdw?si=z-mfrIP9Cl3kA5gc

>>716067013 (OP)
>all they have to do to revive tf2 is remove the play now/meet your match update shit
>nigtuber instead uses his platform to get engineers an indirect buff by removing random crits from the game
We truly live in a clown world.

>>716078446
I like Dane's channel overall. But damn, pic related are some of the worst TF2 videos on youtube. Nothing but shit takes. However, in a recent video (don't remember which, I think the rescue ranger video he made with shounic), he somewhat implied that he doesn't agree with that engi video anymore.

>>716078792
It came up way before that video. Idubbz features on his first ninjaneering video that came out in like 2015.

>>716067487
They tanked that btw
>>716067013 (OP)
I like random crits

>>716067339
kys jewdyfag

>>716067013 (OP)
>removes sniper
>game instantly improves
That video is still my favourite, because it validates literally everyone except for the sniper nigs.

>>716067013 (OP)
>The monkey's paw finger curls
>Crits are now guaranteed, but now you have a random chance to do base damage.

>>716067013 (OP)
>Rose
>not colour rose
>violet
>not colour violet
who was the retarded that name them¡

>>716079529
I am still in shock about how mindbroken retards got over his blatant shitpost 2fort.

>>716079697
>makes something that sucks
>"wow this sucks"
>HAHAHAHA I WAS ONLY TROLLING, YOU'RE MINDBROKEN

>>716079829
Case and point.

>>716079529
>yeah but this literal redditor and his playerbase didn't exploit heavy/medic stacking enough so actually the game only improves with removing sniper

umm but actually I would just kill them with spy/soldier/demo even though if my team had a class that cracked they can objectively kill a sniper faster then they can kill a migrating herd of heavy

>>716079529
what video?

>>716079529
I hate Sniper as much as the next guy but his videos have a very small sample size performed with his own community who are biased to agree with him.

>>716080140
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFXGwko225k

>>716081127
>take sniper out
>game doesn't change at all

It's over.

>>716068309
>dat hairline
oof

I like a lot of Uncle Dane's videos and find him decently funny but his entire war on playing tf2 casually was horrendously stupid and helped pave the way for Meet Your Match, a thermonuclear disaster from which the game has never recovered. He also has horrendous taste in movies.

Counterpoint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtC_lSeE8eU&t

instead of random crits "hero shooters" that came out after tf2 instead just give you cooldown abilities that take no skill to aim to give bad players the same dopamine of "hey guys I got one!" that critical hits were supposed to give.
only in tf2 you have short spawn times and teleporters because the game still has some arena shooter DNA

>>716067013 (OP)

>>716079529
>I asked a bunch of people who hate sniper how they'd feel if sniper was gone and they were happy. Case closed.
This was a ridiculously biased experiment. To treat it as anything else is disingenuous

Isn't the random crit algorithm supposed to make them more likely if you're doing better? Shouldn't people who think everyone who isn't absolute garbage at a game is a tryhard sweatlord hate that?

>>716081818
He is not a bad youtuber but unironically he is a retard who thinks too highly of himself. He has little to no competitive experience and he thinks he knows what hes talking about. Though I doubt Valve listened to him in the first place

>>716077094
Random crits are a terrible mechanic and he is not wrong for asking for it to be removed.

>>716085890
Random crits literally do not matter in casual play. All they exist for is pissing off people.

>>716085890
yes he is, the game is very customizable. anyone can at any time run servers with the rulesets they want, to try to enforce a ruleset on everyone in a game with this much modularity is retarded. play on the servers that don't have crits on if you don't like them so much

>>716086046
So remove them

>>716086046
random crits are why engineers sprint into battle swinging their wrench around

>>716067741
>not using the superior pop-culture reference

>>716085492
the jag buff a gorillion years ago was basically everything he asked
also I sometimes feel he's the reason engineer got so many buffs from 2015 to 2017, if so ty incel dane

>>716067013 (OP)
Crits are fine, it cements the game as non-competitive and a casual game for fun. Remove hats and any weapon that isn't default.

>>716086273
>he can't kill an engineer walking forward swinging his melee
These are the people against random crits...

>>716076147
The server browser change was the absolute dumbest shit, just absolute dog piss

>>716086509
>it's a casual game for fun
How come when you're on a team getting stomped and express frustration, the people on the stomping team say "relax bro, it's just a casual game"... then how come "relax bro, it's just a casual game" isn't something the stomping team applies to themselves?

>>716087070
>let me sperg out in chat about crits while my team is getting stomped instead of vote scrambling or finding another game

Games with nightmare fuel?

>>716086171
Such a gross simple mindset, what you just said is literally the equivalent to answering 'Well it depends on the context'
Sure I can just open up a server exactly the way I want it to be played, but then comes the issue of actually maintaining and running it, which costs real life human money. Why would I even bother doing that in the first place, when casual is just straight up near perfect other than crits and random bullet spread.
Would it really be narcissistic to ask for crits to be removed? A huge chunk of the community wants it removed, and there has never been a single strong argument for keeping random crits other than 'well haha they are fun' or 'makes my dick hard when i wipe out a team'. Even in Dane's video there are actual proper arguments that go in depth why they should be removed
There is nothing skilled about a random crit. None at all. Its just roulette.

>>716087282
>dodges the question

Are you still talking about Team Fortress 2?

>>716087376
>I shouldn't have to put in the effort I want to play the game in a way I like therefore everyone else should be forced to play the way I like because I know best
even if you don't want to maintain a server just play on one of the many servers that turn off both random crits and random spread

You will never be a TF2fag. You do not play on community servers, you haven't micspammed once in your life, you turn your hook kike nose up at community maps because you're incapable of seeing Mario Kart, Harbl Hotel, and the like for the profound works of art that they are, and you're so much of an unprepentant, out-of-touch cunt that you one-trick a class like this is fucking Dota or some shit. You are a fat, ashy, unlikable freak who wants to legitimize his hilariously retarded life goal of being a fucking videogame e-celeb without stepping up to any of the actual big dog outlets like RTS, fightan, or Quake. When your demands are met like the sandman and bison becoming completely useless, you feel nothing from it and just move on to the next gay thing on your checklist, but if they ignore you for too long you go and """""accidentally""""" leak an entire-ass project of Valve's that was in the pipeline for god-knows-how-long because you're just that much of an egocentric, short-sighted turbonigger. A part of me felt some comfort in the bot epidemic because you and every other worthless manchild like you was that much closer than the noose while I was chilling out, maxing (relaxing all cool, even) and shooting some B-ball on Delfy servers and community gamemodes like always - like actual TF2 players do. You'll never understand, just as you'll never truly know what fun is. You'll sit there, glass-eyed and grinding away in some hyper-curated lobby with eleven other miswired animals farming content until the lights go off around you and either Valve or Youtube finally give you the okay to kick the chair. And when that day finally does come I'll do the Kazotzky kick on your shallow grave and tape a poster of the fattest fucking anime titties onto your headstone.

>>716086987
>>he can't kill an engineer walking forward swinging his melee
i wanted to reply with that video of a cheating engi floating and killing people with a guaranteed crit wrench but it seems to have dissappeared from youtube

>>716087459
its not worth answering the dumb, leading question of a retard that is bad at videogames

>>716087482
tf2 thread

>>716087363
Still mad Shounic didn't include the clip where I cornered him and his medic and flattened them both in the video

>>716087750
>even if you dont want to maintain
Do you even know how to actually maintain a server though. Unrelated but just curious. First off you need the patience and mind to deal with hundreds of people, manage a team of admins and staff, handle the rules and reports, actually make your server fun with a gimmick, or add something to make it stand out from the sea of already existing servers, and thats the easy part, then comes the parts with developers, finding plugins, protecting your server from ddos and lots of other tech stuff im not too good at. And of course, having to host your server which isnt cheap and having to somehow make money off of VIP or other shit. Its unironically not an easy thing because even if you put in the effort the average tf2 player will just play on something more famous say skial or a server made by his own countryman.

>that turn off both random crits and random spread
But why not disable it on casual. You ignored this argument, that there are thousands maybe tens of thousands of people that agree on removing crits and in general random crits are just a bad mechanic. They contribute literally nothing positive to the game and the game would be healthier without them and would lose literally nothing, except maybe a few dopamine hits.
Casual is already near perfect except the bots (assuming they are still going), literally everything I can get on a server I can also get on casual minus the terrible parts that should've been removed years back, and I dont have to deal with whatever faggotry a server has say egotistical admins.

Also 1 thing you're missing is that removing these 2, is literally just 2 console commands. You really want people to make their own servers just to type 2 console commands?

>>716067013 (OP)
Roses are red
Random crits are a trigger
Uncle Dane is a
Fucking Nigger

>>716087376
>>716088329
You entire argument hinges on me caring about fairness and balanced skill. No random crits helps promote tf2 for what it is, a party game. It's like hating randomness in smash or mario party.

>>716088329
>yeah I can play the game exactly the way I want but why not force the CASUAL players into a more skill centric hardcore ruleset huh??
this is the narcissism I mentioned previously. also maintaining a TF2 server is not at all that hard, you're overblowing things to justify your laziness in not making the environment you want

>>716088917
These are such non arguments. Its not narcissistic to have them removed because
>>that there are thousands maybe tens of thousands of people that agree on removing crits
So far I have yet to see 1 proper argument why they should be kept. Again its just shit like
>'well haha they are fun' or 'makes my dick hard when i wipe out a team'.
The game would simply be objectively better off without them
Also the 'casual' players you're referring to, I can bet my left ball that atleast 80% of them dont like the mechanic.

>also maintaining a TF2 server is not at all that hard, you're overblowing things to justify your laziness in not making the environment you want
You can atleast have the decency to admit when you're wrong. How am I overblowing lol. Atleast give proper arguments?? I have been part of several communities in valve games, starting from 1.6 and I have been head admin in several, its not easy at all to maintain a community and takes actual intelligence and knowledge and of course money

>skill centric hardcore ruleset huh??
Its not really about that. Again Random crits just dont benefit anything positive to the game. Imagine the current game now. Now remove random crits. And now game is STILL the same casual game people troll and have fun in. If anything by removing crits you make the game even more casual and fun since people can relax and have proper gameplay without anything ruining their personal experience by something random

>>716087862
I accept your concession.

>>716089657
>wanting to force an entire game's userbase to use the ruleset I want instead of me just looking for servers that have ruleset isn't narcissistic
yes it is

>>716088809
I mean, sure I guess, if it personally doesnt bother you.
Calling TF2 a casual game is a bit of a stretch though. I mean, sure you can troll and fuck around in it as much as you want, if that is all you do, then alright. But I would say a big huge chunk of the playerbase does try to play the game in a 'semi-serious' way, like they actually try to win the map they're playing or try to win the duels they fight, if they die or lose the match its whatever for them, and I can bet crits bother them

>>716067212
They are crits but not as powerful.
Imagine how fucked the game would be if minicrits were converted into full crits.
Like imagine Sniper, the long range specialist who is meant to be weak at close range, was able to throw a jar of piss as you and suddenly his melee is always dealing 195 damage.
That’d be stupid and make the game unplayable.

>>716089657
If there were actually tens of thousands of people that want random crits removed, we would have tons of servers with nocrits full 24/7, with more showing up daily to meet demand. We don't, therefore this "tens of thousands" are just eceleb worshippers that probably don't play the game.

>>716089897
Yeah sure, and I still try to win at board games whenever we play them. And gamblers still try to win despite the randomness. Infact gambling is pretty apt to TF2 because its randomness that can be manipulated.

Besides, random crits is great because they feel good for casual play. Yeah sure some people dislike them, but they're liked by a large amount of the playerbase. Especially those looking to ubwind after a day of work and play the game selfishly. Which is like tf2 in its entirey when you look at how much of the game is designed around selfish play. It might scare away some more competitive platers onto nocrits servers, but that's fine because it keeps the lobby more fun for your average player.

>>716090147
but anon hosting a server is soooooooo difficult! it's nearly impossible to do it's so hard, therefore the notion that people can and do host servers with the stuff they want shouldn't even be considered!

Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
Compfags are fags
Party game is TF2

>>716087070
>How come when you're on a team getting stomped and express frustration, the people on the stomping team say "relax bro, it's just a casual game".
Because it is, if you're losing at TF2 it has less to do with player skill and more to do with whether the RNG gods have blessed you with crits and no friendlies that round. It's baked into the experience.
>then how come "relax bro, it's just a casual game" isn't something the stomping team applies to themselves?
How do you know they're not applying it to themselves? Just because they're winning doesn't mean they're tryharding, if anything you're the one tryharding because you're frustrated by a game that wasn't balanced for individual player skill. Don't let it get to you man, TF2 is bullshit.

>>716090147
I havent played the game myself in some months, im on and off.
Sure they might just be random people, but arent they themselves the casual players you mention? Their opinions still hold value because they played the game before, be it for 100 or 1000 hours, they're still casual players that want them to removed.
Im a bit lazy to dig around on gametracker but im sure you can find plenty of nocrit servers that are full 24/7

>>716090506
>Besides, random crits is great because they feel good for casual play
You're not wrong, but its such a weak argument
They are only good if YOU get them. Everyone else suffers. The way it works, if you get a crit and wipe out everyone, okay it feels good, but it will pass. If you keep getting crits, it'll keep feeling good, but its a dopamine hit which will eventually fade away, the more you play the less the hit keeps on giving. But if you get hit by a crit, its just straight up annoying as fuck and does bother people. If its great for casual play, it would just be better to remove them so the casual play isnt clouded by the constant negativity of dying to a random crocket from spawn. It all adds up

>>716090678
I mean you're just another retard on /v/ so im not surprised but I have yet to see you type 1 proper argument. You sit back on the same rhetoric I already debunked
You fail your own sentience

>>716091458
my one argument is so sound that you've tried to divert the argument to other things because the notion that you can just play the game the way you want thanks to the customizable nature of the game and forcing the game to adhere to any one ruleset is stupid is too strong for you to actually rebut. it's not enough that you just play on servers that have the rules you want, EVERYONE must play the way you like, because you know best. your head is so far up your own ass you're still trying to argue this shit nearly 2 decades out from launch instead of making the most of the custom nature of the game.

>>716091332
You went from "tens of thousands of players want them removed" to "their opinion matters" while skirting away through the fact the number was a fucking lie. Just admit you want the game to play to your liking instead of appealing to a minority that are retarded.

>>716091817
Your argument are as empty as your head
You couldn't back up your own point on anything. It's not 'sound'. You closed your eyes and ears and went "la-la-la" and never said anything back.
You're a retard.

>>716087070
If you can't enjoy a game even when you're losing maybe you should stick to watching movies.

>>716091332
The way it works, if you get hit by a crit and everyone is wiped out, okay it feels bad, but it will pass. If you keep getting crits, it'll keep feeling bad, but its a depression hit which will eventually fade away, the more you play the less the hit keeps on giving. But if hit a crit, its just straight up ecstatic as fuck and does brighten up people's day. If its great for casual play, it would just be better to keep them so the casual play isnt clouded by the constant positivity of killing with a random crocket from spawn. It all adds up

It's the little things anon.

>>716091259
>How do you know they're not applying it to themselves?
Because
>get bumped at Spy and flicker
>6 people on enemy team immediately drop what they're doing, go Pyro, and sweep the area like a fucking Navy Seals team hunting Osama Bin Laden until you change back to a class that's forced to cower in an already-camped spawn
As I said... sweaty tryhards will NEVER apply "chill out, it's just a casual game haha" to themselves.

>>716091858
???
In my original post I said there are 'thousands maybe tens of thousands' that want it to be removed
It wasnt a lie anon, I dont know the exact number, it was a guess. You want me to ask everyone who played TF2?
And for the record, the number seems correct to me. Dane's video has like 2 million views and its a pretty well received idea.
>You went from "tens of thousands of players want them removed" to "their opinion matters"
There is irony in this sentence but im not gonna comment on it, i hope you find it

>>716092317
I mean sure I guess, for my own personal experience crits more negatively impacted me than positively, I would kill people and wipe out teams with a crocket or a sticky but I would move on quickly, when I would get killed though it just bothered me too much to ignore it

>>716068616
"invisible sniper with a 6-shot clip" is not good game design, especially when regular sniper is already iffy
while i do think they should delay the falloff further, it absolutely must have it
and sniper should have falloff too desu, infinite range is dumb

>>716087780
I miss playing on mario kart servers, fuck meet your match was dog shit and should be removed.

>>716088170
>Upgrading a mini
I already hate the humanized tf2 building meme but holy fucking poser niggers, you can't even get the most basic shit right about the mini sentry

>>716088170
>promotions

>>716088170
>>716092807
engie's right arm is a prosthetic, too
that shit was made by a filthy secondary

>>716092453
Then I'm gonna guess there's a million thousand players that love or don't mind crits, and your need to remove them is against them and therefore invalid. Eat shit.

>>716092807
>he wasn't around when we could build mini level 3s and spies could build dispensers
post-update jank was always fun, I miss it.

>>716067013 (OP)
>random crits are bad because...
>it causes new players to LEARN THE GAME WRONG!! because, as we all know, new players are literally retarded, and if they get a kill via a random crit, they will forget everything they've learned so far and instead learn to ONLY do the thing that got them the crit that one time
He actually said this.
To this day, I have never heard a more condescending heap of mental gymnastics in my entire life.

>>716092391
I don't accept your example as proof of tryharding. That shit is part of the game because each class has a natural counter. When someone is dominating as engineer, half the players are going to switch to spy to fuck his day up and to get rewarded for a shutdown. If he's actually a good at playing engineer, this isn't going to bother him until the soldier gets a random crit rocket and blows all his shit up in one shot. You're a sweaty tryhard for getting frustrated at losing in a party game that you're not good at, so your opinion is invalid. If you doing well as spy is dependent upon nobody on the other team picking pyro maybe you should get good at the revolver because it chumps Pyros.

>>716092182
selfwareness is your strong suit I see.

>>716093165
The retard thought competitive would revitalize TF2 and bring forth a new era. He was always braindead, I have no clue why he has a following.

>>716093475
He also unironically coined the term "trickle down balance" and genuinely postured the idea that balancing the game solely around comp would also make the game be balanced in casual as a side effect.
He's not even being dishonest, he's just that fucking stupid.

>>716093475
>>716093596
Hes literally the dunning krugger effect in effect

>>716092317
That's actually a pretty fair breakdown, anon. Random crits are like dopamine slot machines - high highs and low lows. When it goes in your favor, especially on something ridiculous like a shotgun crit killing a full health Heavy, it's god-tier. But when it’s against you, especially during a good streak or in a 1v1 clutch, it’s ragequit-tier. It’s TF2’s chaos dial turned up, and yeah, it can suck, but it’s also kind of what makes the game TF2. If you wanted everything to be purely skill-based and sterile, you’d be playing CS instead, not rocket jumping into a crit pipe.

>>716093165
Haven't seen this webm in years, saving

>>716092657
Getting killed by things out of my control is a part of tf2. Once you accept this fact of life, dying is no longer as annoying. Some engineer can at any time detonate his sentry and whip out a surprise frontier justice. An enemy pyro could reflect a rocket into you that you didn't even know existed because a braindead teammate thought he had an ideal ambush and fired. Around a corner could be a tomislav heavy reved up waiting for specifically (You). And I have no problems with any of this. And even if I could control it, it doesn't make the game more fun. Getting pubstomped by a player way out of your league is theoretically in your control, but it's not any more fun than dying to a random crit. Infact it's arguably less fun because a pubstomper will consistently and continously ruin your day over and over. Spiting him with a random crit though? Priceless. Especially if it gives me the confidence momentum to start playing on my A game, even better if he gets upset and starts playing worse.

It's entirely selfish. But I can't feep upset, it's the same reason I don't feel mad about dying to something unfair. Everyone is trying to carve their own fun, and your own responsibility to get yours.

But

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvHhqOIQ9lg&

You can really tell how retarded a person is when they go through the entire effort of making a script, record voice and gameplay and then edit it all together without noticing how stupid they sound.

>>716068616
TF2 players when Sniper exists:
>I don't care if godlike Snipers are rare, they still ruin the game!
TF2 players when the sniper weapon for their cowardly faggot class gets nerfed
>No one sniped with it anyway, that was super rare! I bet compfags did this! Now let me snipe with it

>>716094165
>open video
>look at the disguise hitboxes so I can headshot them
>close video
Thanks, FAGGOT

i don't mind crits but the fact that they attached an entire pubstomping mechanic to them where the guy getting pocketed has literally 3x the crit rate of a new player is kinda mean-spirited

>>716067013 (OP)
WHY THE FUCK does every FUCKING thread on /v/ have to be ABOUT some FUCKHEAD eceleb? Why can't you fuckers ACTUALLY talk about video games that are OLDER than 6 MONTHS. You make a thread about an OLDER game and YOU GOT NO REPLIES but you make it ABOUT some FUCK WHO RETARD and ALL OF THE SUDDEN there are HUNREDS of REPLIES, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU FUCKING RETARDS!

>>716067013 (OP)
No, just need classed that benefit the most from it

>>716068616
Did not watch the vid but if you complain about the Ambassador you're a faggot
For 10 years straight people played the game and had no issue with the weapon, but then suddenly when its suggested to be nerfed, everyone jumped on the bandwagon to get it out. Niggercattle faggots destroyed the class and now Spy is stuck in the same boring predictable easy to counter invis watch playstyle

>>716094165
I feel like these youtubers pretty much always play babby classes like Pyro, Sniper or Soldier with a banner and minimal rocket jumping. Respect to the edgelord Spyfags for trying at least.
This based video is the only Scout one I can think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRSW0Y1SgoA

>>716094138
These examples are not really comparable though
An engineer, needs to build a sentry, needs to upgrade it to level 3, needs to know about the knowledge of frontier justice, have it equipped, use it properly, time it properly, and be on the right spot at the right time to utilize it in correct way. The enemy pyro needs to time his deflect correctly. Tomislav heavy around the corner needs to be at the right spot at the right time.
All of these are infinitely more fair and fun, than a soldier pressing mouse1 and their rocket starts glowing because of a diceroll
Although your point is valid

>>716094535
my tf2 hot take is that heavy gets countered by soldier and demo more than he gets countered by spy
spy countering heavy is mostly a meme and I mean that in the real definition of a meme

>>716094642
Do you have that one bonk strat video from those times? I remember seeing one with very similar editing but doesn't seem to be the same guy.

>>716095069
This?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEaaqBTZr7Y

>>716095220
Yep, that's the one, thanks Anon!
Also they need to revert the bonk, you can spam A/D to avoid the speed debuff quite easily too so It's pointless already.

>>716094763
>An engineer, needs to build a sentry, needs to upgrade it to level 3
Hold it right there, this matters more than crits autism. No, just no. This actually ticks me off. Any engineer that would seriously use the frontier justice and be a threat isn't some passive cuck who will wait that long. I don't even mean level 2s or minis. You should either be setting a trap to get a drop at level 1, or setting up nests as aggressively as possible like battle engies did before that stupid metal hand even existed. Going all the way to level 3 requires time, and time has to be earned.