What class are you rolling on pochie?

>>716067486 (OP)
When is open beta again? Also Undead Paladin. Let's do this shit.

>pve
rolling the uninstall button

TURTLE WORLD OF WARCRAFT!!

>>716067486 (OP)
undead warlock

>>716067486 (OP)
Raids ruined that game it would be 100% better if there were no rids and had more reasons to world pvp instead

>>716067486 (OP)
yeah that's a huge yikes and ick from me

>pve
i'll be rolling the vestments of uninstalling build on tauren mage

>>716067587
Full launch is this Friday, brother.

>classic +
just move on you fucking boomers

>Tauren hunter
>Explorer's contract (-50% exp gain)
Leveling kino

>>716067486 (OP)
I'm not interested in playing any version of WoW that came before Cataclysm, and funnily enough, all the private servers that meet this criteria basically die within the first month. The ones barely standing are flooded with 3rd worlders and chinks that completely ruin any community they're allowed into. I wanna play WoW but it's genuinely can't, and it's been years

>>716067486 (OP)
>Troll hunter (male [male])
>skinning, leatherworking
Yep, it's gaming time
Kill all multiboxers
Kill all troons
Kill all chinks
Kill all jews
Kill all raidloggers
Kill all pvpers
Kill all people who disagree with the above

>>716069801
>all the private servers that meet this criteria basically die within the first month
maybe you should take that as a sign that you prefer the garbage expansions.

>>716067486 (OP)
Forsaken Ret Paladin, ofc, and I'll be the only one on the server as such.

I'm protagonist, btw.

>>716067486 (OP)
Troll affliction warlock as my main, dwarf arcane mage with my friend.

>>716069438
I'll be with you on my orc warlock brother

>>716069438
King shit. I'll be doing explorer's contract too. (Troll hunter)

>>716069941

>>716070000
Yes I do, your point? I'm well aware of it. Also nice digits

>>716068375
gross

whats special about epoch?

>>716068375
It's a cool change, 24 hour clock is boring, doing actual shit with time has been needed forever. Seethe.

>>716070650
It's fresh

>>716070650
Fresh classic + and Undead Paladin race/class combo

>>716067587
>>716068830
It's Saturday for most

>>716070650
twow but better and less gay, also forced English in public channels

>>716070736
>and Undead Paladin race/class combo
cringe

>>716070821
>also forced English in public channels
that's nice, but it just sounds like classic so ill pass

>>716070650
a trans friendly community

@Blizzard
@FBI
@CollectiveShout
DO SOMETHING

Why were humans not allowed hu ters in vanilla anyway

>>716070923
TBC talents, 61 talent points but 60 cap, reworked class specs so more specs are viable/fun, new race/class combos like Dwarf Shaman, Dwarf Mage, Gnome Priest, Human/Undead Hunters, Tauren Priest, Undead Paladin, Troll Warlock

>>716071109
The UI was limited to 6 classes per race and they probably didn't bother changing that to enforce some variety in races

>>716070814
right you are, mb

>>716071089
that's Turtle WoW, dumbass.

>>716068375
What the fuck lol
People will be blindsided by this hard

>>716071369
>thats turtle wow
>logins into game with more men playing women then men playing men

>>716071109
To force parity of race/class combos between factions.
Dwarf mages were originally intended to be in at launch but were cut for the same reason.

Dwarf shaman, leveled a character to 60 on the hardcore official server last year that was horde, so going to do alliance this time.

>>716067486 (OP)
Debating between warlock and spriest. The latter sounds like it might be interesting with TBC talents in.
Wish dwarves could be warlocks in this too but oh well.

I've never been able to level a shaman, it's just too fucking boring. Shammybros, how do you stick with it? What's the draw?

>>716071874
>What's the draw?
to get to max level and play elemental to wipe the floor with everyone in pvp

>>716071846
Spriest is pretty much unchanged, unlike many other specs, and it wasn't exactly stellar beyond the mana regen to begin with, so it'll probably lag behind.
I guess it depends on if you want to be more of a support than an actual damage dealer.

>>716072148
>to get to max level
>pvp

I'm not playing epoch. Turtle is good enough. Besides WoW is inherently a dogshit game, it's fun with friends but the core gameplay loop is garbage. The german transcoded epoch devs are oblivious to this. And that is why they're making the game even more annoying to play. Expect it to fail miserably with a population of 500 by week 2

>>716071369
fake news

>>716070650
At level 60 you can swap racials with any race even cross faction

>>716071874
Totem quests are kinda cool I guess.
Ghost wolf form is very handy especially early on.
You got self heals and some utility, leveling enh is kinda like being a more self-sufficient warrior.
I dunno, don’t really consider any of the classes to be super exciting to level in of themselves but I would still pick shaman over pally and dudu any day ‘cause they’re cooler.

>>716072838
>but I would still pick shaman over pally and dudu any day
Shaman over paladin I can see since paladins really are not fun to level at all until WoTLK, but druids? Druids have so much utility, catform stealth, travelform, and the same kind of heals shamans get. Druids can be a little hard to level early on though. I've only ever taken a shaman to around 50 so I'm no expert on the matter but what I hate most about them is having to either totem every fight or bring mobs to your totems. It gets old fast.

>>716073324
I don’t wanna be a stinky bear or a dumb cat THOUGH

>>716073467
They fixed druid weapons and the wolfshead bis shit THOUGH.

>>716068375
fuck this shit
it will ruin all the comfy vibes

>>716073467
>>716073552
Look at all this. Druids are prolly the most reworked class in Epoch, and this is only half of it, I can't fit the other half of the changes in the screenshot.

nah, for me its ascension classic+, more abilities, quicker gameplay

>>716074075
>unironically enjoying retail- adhd shit

I've never played WoW, is this a good time to jump into a private server like this? Holy priest sounds pretty cool

>>716074274
dat's right white boy

>>716068375
>>716070693
I think 3-4 hours is a little too short, but I like the idea. I just hope the nighttime changes are drastic and consistent enough for it to actually work

>>716073708
They needed it. Druids were designed at a time in mmos where devs thought if you were able to do everything, you should be objectively shit at all of it, but people quickly realized due to the nature of the content there wasn't really a "need" for a jack of all trades, so they were shit on even back in original launch.

Even then, druids overall performance was so technically abysmal, that it didn't ever warrant bringing one in any capacity aside from brez. Its easily the most fundamentally fucked up class in vanilla, but the tbc talents and extra changes should help them a lot.

>>716074328
Its free and there’s enough buzz around it to be decently populated. You got nothing to lose but your time so I say check it out.

>>716074328
It's about as good as it gets, since no one knows shit about the custom content yet. We'll see how long that lasts.

>>716074461
None of the hybrid classes are even real hybrid classes in the first place since you have specs. Sure, a feral druid can still throw out heals, but they're gonna be pretty shit at it, so I never understood why this meant they had to be shit overall.

>>716074075
This. And the rpg items is a cool addition too

>>716074461
>that it didn't ever warrant bringing one in any capacity aside from brez
hey, that's not true! They also had Mark of the Wild.

>post yfw 65% of the playerbase is undead paladins
It's happened every time classic private servers do something to make paladins playable. It'll happen here too.

>>716074791
>"spec"
Cataclysm and other nu-wow brainrot. Choosing what talents to buy doesn't mean specialization, that comes from bad talent tree design like vanilla warrior ones.

>>716074808
honestly ascension is reminding me too much of titan quest, specially now that enemies drop the gear they are wearing.

I love titan quest.

>>716074949
>>post yfw 65% of the playerbase is undead paladins
>still healers and tanks don't show up for dungeons and raids

>>716074970
Sure, buddy. That's why Blizzard never called them specs back then either right? Oh wait.

>>716074949
For sure, day 1 Tirisfal is going to be a shitshow.

>>716075062
A paladin, a druid and a warrior walk into LFG...

>>716074970
It was always called spec. Your attempts at "fitting in" are abysmal.

>>716075217
LF2M tank and healer!

>>716075062
Healing I can understand because health bar whack-a-mole is not fun and there is a lot of pressure to not fuck up.
Tanking 5-mans is the easiest job in the world though. Anyone playing a class that can tank but refuses to do it when asked is just screwing themselves.

>>716073324
I put the funny heads in the ground, simple as. Spirits be wit'cha

>>716067486 (OP)
Female Night Elf hunter, as always.

>>716074949
Still going Horde because I'm a zugger at heart but I am not looking forward to dealing with paladin retardation

Why do people get so erect for UD Pallies anyway?

>>716076886
Because as much as classic andies like to pretend otherwise, people go hard for anything new that breaks with old trends.

>classic cucks are so desperate they need another private flop server
Just play OSRS

>>716076886
Undead are the most human like and popular race on Horde.
Paladins are garbage in vanilla but still extremely popular regardless. Anytime a server tries to make them functional every DEUS VULT fag wants to play one.

>>716077105
Don't you have another pride parade to attend?

>>716077105
I probably would if you could move the camera independent of your character. A click to move system with the camera centered on your character (with tiny chunks and constant world pop in) feels so awful compared to any game that came out in the last two decades

Not even a big pvp player outside the occasional bg but how holy paladins are supposed to do anything when they have 1 instant cast that heals for dicks/slow as molasses/one interrupt shuts all their abilities down?

>>716077105
>play
>OSRS
lol lmao

So what's the appeal of this server? Just curious, I'm looking to start anew. haven't played WoW Classic since 2019 during the official release.

Is it just all races and classes having everything unlocked??

>>716077446
You track CD on Shaman shocks and stun the rogues. How is this an issue. Pally+Warr is like the easy mode combo of classic PvP.

>>716068007
filtered

>>716076886
Paladins are the premier healers in the game and Undead are the most OP race. Horde is absolutely stacked now. There's legitimately no reason to roll Alliance other than flavor. I of course will be rolling both. Alliance NEEDS another form of convenient transportation. Horde has it so easy with the zeps. The Barrens is also easily the best zone in the entire game and it isn't even close.

>>716077689
Read the fucking thread
or just go to the site and read about it yourself
https://www.project-epoch.net/

>>716077689
The appeal is that it's vanilla with better class design so you can actually play all of the classes and specs and new content.

>no blood elves
Sorry I only play WoW if I can play as slutty blonde nymph with pointy ears

>>716077864
>Paladins are the premier healers in the game
What kind of changes did Epoch make to make that happen?

>>716077986
That was always the case.

>>716067486 (OP)
Undead Paladin.

>>716074274
They juiced the hell out of the RPG mechanics with the overworld items and npc changes, I had a lot of fun with the testing and am looking forward to the release

>>716069801
well then let me introduce you to World of Warcraft SPP aka Single Player Project, you can play and progress from Vanilla to TBC to WotLK with playerbots that mimic player behavior and it now also has AI LLM chat
https://github.com/celguar/spp-classics-cmangos/releases/tag/v2.0
you can host it yourself and invite friends, thats what i do, i play with 4-6 other people, hosting it on a small OptiPlex machine and it runs incredibly well with 5000 bots

>>716078064
No. The premier healer on Alliance was literally always Priest. Not even close to a competition.

>>716074461
Hybrid Tax was the biggest sin of WoW and I'm tired of people defending it.

>>716067486 (OP)
When is it out?

orc
male
warlock
50%exp
only learning about things through people in the world

>>716077864
Horde is for niggers and I will never play it.

>>716078237
this saturday

>>716078237
26

>>716078442
No, pvp is for niggers. Horde is for people who like fun. Alliance is for people who like aesthetics.

>>716078568
Nah Horde is for browns.

>>716077864
>The Barrens is also easily the best zone in the entire game and it isn't even close.
this is so fucking true and it's insane because Horde got shafted during development

>>716067486 (OP)
Why this over turtle?

>>716078623
Refusing to play one side or the other is for browns.

>undead
>paladin
>holy spec
It's gaming time

They talk a lot about how they've fixed feral. but what about fat owls? the only thing that might get me to play this garbage again is an effective and fun boomkin gameplay.

>>716078859
You had over a year of dominance in SoD. I hope Moonkins get fucking nothing.

>>716078524
>>716078563
Damn, I won't be able to play it at launch.

>>716071515
You type like a fucking Mexican

>>716079053
I'm half Mexican and half Indian.

>>716067486 (OP)
Can you summon with meeting stones? If not, then warlock. Waiting for some retarded gorilla niggers on Turtle made me racist.

>>716079009
Best luck with the next F R E S H

>>716067486 (OP)
human hunter, I hope pets aren't squishy as fuck

>>716071874
WINDFURY NIGGA

>>716079009
Server launch will most likely get DDoS'd out the ass so don't be too disappointed

is blizzard going to dmca this or something? are people allowed to run private servers? on a related note, how do they make money? just donations?

>>716078653
Shamans on Alliance and Paladins on Horde is the big one, tons of new quests in each zone, new dungeons, new raids, etc.

Never really stuck with a woyer for more than a few levels before in any version of WoW, might have to change that. Tauren maybe.

>>716078941
I'm sorry the druid got the items you wanted because they managed to out DPS you in every raid. but I wasn't there for SoD, Anon. and if your mindset on balance is "class should get fucked because on another game it was OP " than you are kind of a silly person.

>>716079216
>new raids
Oh shit

>>716079178
How new are you?

>>716079107
>Can you summon with meeting stones?
Yes.

>>716068375
Might as well play retail
Disgusting

>>716079178
A cease and desist would do jack shit, and Blizzard can't do anything. Nostalrius only went down because the devs agreed to do so, but private server owners can't be forced to do anything. There's a reason private servers like Turtle regularly reach 8k people online and yet nothing happens.

>>716079287
>he thinks its about kiddies first pve
lol
lmao
Imagine getting two-shot from 40y with zero counterplay. Imagine this for a whole year with literally zero fixes and nerfs. No, Moonkin can go suck a dick.

>>716079405
THANK
FUCKING
GOD

>>716078859
>Owlform is slightly more armor
>level*1.5 = +ap
>3% on hit restores mana based on ap
>taking damage can enrage you
https://www.project-epoch.net/classes/talents

Roadmap for the year.

>>716079606
>Gilijim’s Isle and Uldum
neato

>>716079216
Turtle is the same though with cross faction, new dungeons, quests and raids (Karazhan/Emerald Sanctum and Grim Batol/Silvermoon coming soon too)
Epoch's biggest difference is a hybrid of TBC/Wrath talents, 3.3.5 engine, racial swap and different events/mobs at night.

>>716069941
Taz'dingo

>>716079525
Sorry you got outplayed by a silly fat bird man.

>>716079756
Your rage bait needs work.

>>716077121
Paladins definetly are not garbage in vanilla but ok.

>>716079779
Your pvp skills need work

>>716079808
Completely useless in PvE, and completely useless in PvP unless pocketing a warrior, and most pallies are too proud for that.

>>716079606
>New cosmetic gear
DROPPED

>>716079779

>>716079874
Ah, you've never played vanilla - got it.

>>716079571
>https://www.project-epoch.net/classes/talents
>get in there and start meleeing
oh right it's TBC talents, owl players are going to be a the guild's comedic relief it seems.

>>716079525
>I've been critted and killed in a nanosecond!
you asked for the vanilla experience, didnt you?

>>716079941
I assume it means tabards?
There’s no trannymog system so cosmetic armor doesn’t serve much purpose outside of RP I guess.

>>716080017
>owl players are going to be a the guild's comedic relief it seems
That's not true, you give spell crit for the mages and warlocks.

>>716079982
Excellent non-argument.

>>716080142
>There’s no trannymog
PICKED UP AGAIN

>>716071874
Shaman is one of those classes that just needs to reach like level 30-ish before it really comes into its own and becomes a ton of fun. Not that it sucks, but it's just slow. It's just not as outrageously overpowered as Warrior is at endgame to justify that slow start for a lot of people.
It's like how Rogue and Druid are boring to level until 20-ish, Hunter is miserable until 10, and Paladin until 30-ish.

>>716080281
uuh.... awkward?

>>716075062
Personally, I think DPS Warriors are the biggest fucking neanderthal retard apes. I play tank and I literally always resent getting one in a party because they're total fucking niggers that just instantly charge in before you've even actually pulled. If there's one in your party they're guaranteed to make your life harder and to fuck up at least one attempt at a LoS pull per dungeon. And they always roll on tank gear that's objectively not good for them.

Come home to retail

>vanilla but with viper aspect, steady shot, and misdirect
Fuck yeah gonna go maximum huntard

>>716080829
Stopped giving blizz money in 2009 and have no plans to pick that back up
Private servers are unironically more fun than any official blizz server

>>716080829
I can think of nothing more degrading than giving Blizzard money

>>716080017
>owl players are going to be a the guild's comedic relief it seems.
Interviews say more boomkin changes are post launch

>>716080829
everything about this post sucks

>>716080254
You never played the game so no reason to argue.

I'm just gonna sub to retail. I've never played WoW before and I get the feeling all these classic private servers with special changes are meant for people who are burned out on WoW and want something new but familiar, so as a new player I wouldn't get much out of the experience.

>>716067486 (OP)
Probably female Human warlock and male Human Paladin or Warrior (depends on itemization changes). Might make a mage after depending if I like the server enough

>>716081520
I mean I'm not the one trying to pretend Paladin wasn't dogshit in Vanilla outside one specific circumstance. I'd expect at least a modicum of effort for that kind of shitposting.

>>716081534
Retail is unironically the worst way to experience vanilla. Find a blizzlike vanilla server and it'll be closer to actual vanilla than "Wow Classic"
Giving blizzard money is wrong and stupid, especially when there's p2w.

>>716081536
>female Human warlock

>another private server that will be dead in a month
>everyone will do molten snore and onyxia and quit
lol

>>716076660
>>716081031
I was gonna roll an orc hunter but now I'm reconsidering

>>716081534
Retail is more hostile to brand new players than any version of classic teebeeaych.
That shit is designed for people with 20 year old accounts and everything already unlocked.

>>716081735
Perfection

>>716081809
No Barrens quests and it's a hostile zone so you'll get flagged. There, you're cured now.

>>716075062
It's funny because prot pala is way, WAY faster to level with.
not to mention it utterly BTFO's rogues if you plan to warmode

>>716080435
>Hunter is miserable until 10
kek this noob can't kite

>>716081795
turtletroons already doomposting I see

>>716081974
I can kite. That's why it isn't fun. Kiting's fucking boring and gay.

>>716067486 (OP)
blood elf

>>716081974
Kiting mobs at level 8 is miserable busywork you tard. Especially going through that barrow cave in the middle of the night elf starting zone solo

>>716067486 (OP)
Hardcore and -50% Exp Gnome Holy* Priest (Read: Holy DPS)
Smite Priest being viable here makes it more interesting instead of playing the same shit over and over. At least I can shitpost a teeny bit by existing, and subsequently gather tears of people who still roll Fresh to play the same meta over and over.

I have low hopes for this server, but if it dies early I'll have had a decent time, and if it doesn't die I can continue to be a living shitpost.
Not gonna repeat the multiple flaws the server has every thread.

>>716082204
>he actually went into the barrows
Beginner's mistake.

>>716081940
They btfo rogues but feel like prot pally gets smacked around more by mages than ret due to lacking the burst damage to murder those faggots in skirts. Still agree everyone with half a brain should just prot level since it's mostly just consecrate and keep salvation up

>>716067486 (OP)
>custom client
Nice fucking botnet.

>Poojet epoop shills
fuck off

>>716082206
Based -50% exp chad, gonna take this game low and slow.

>>716081940
Prot is literal hell until Seal of Wisdom.

>>716082286
>>716082307
turtlejeets

>>716082307
>>716082471
Ladies please, you're both brown.

>>716082256
Obviously not, as a hunter. That's why it's miserable. But keep moving the goalposts I'm sure you can do it

Do I need a 1.1.12 client or whatever from Vanilla to do this?

Might make a female undead Prot Pally maybe

>>716082386
Hardcore getting a custom Flex emote and -50% giving an achievement is going to give me some hyperflex material when they see the Smite Priest roll up
Gnome just to piss people off even more

>>716082540
>moving goalposts
LITERALLY my first reply in your little retard war, no need to get this assblasted because you're arguing with another retard on the internet.

>>716082593
it's on the wrath client which is a godsend

>>716082593
Go to the site it has DL instructions

>>716082650
Are hardcore players allowed to party with normal mode players in this?
Either way I think I’m playing Alli so if I see a funny smite gnome running around I’ll wave.

>>716082650
people really think anybody gives a fuck about any on that?

>>716082685
Well now you've joined my retard war, so what does that make you?

>716082837
Not gonna get drawn into your little shitflinging contest, sorry.

>>716082830
Not really and they kept the rewards pretty tame. It’s more for self-satisfaction than anything that’s gonna turn heads like an obnoxious mount or whatever.

>>716082987
Too late, buddy. You've already given me a psuedo (you). I'm even pulling out the anime avatars to enhance my shitposts

>>716082830
People mostly only care because it's one of the only true missables. If you don't do it at the start you fuck yourself out of the thing. Admittedly the rewards are pretty fucking lame though. Turtle did a better job with that.

>>716074970
Oh yeah?

>>716067486 (OP)
I still haven't decided, I'm being indecisive as hell. Roll a priest for the first time? Take my time and explore as a huntard? Experience a class with loads of changes like druid? I'll probably make 6 different characters and then burn myself out.

>>716081974
I always thought kiting and timing movement with shooting was fun ever since I learned to do it on LH, shame that strategy basically becomes completely irrelevant the second you ding 10.

>>716080535
ah okay
DROPPED NEVER TO BE PICKED UP AGAIN FUCKING TROONYMOG

>>716083494
>kiting becomes irrelevant the second you ding 10
...what. It's literally one of the skills that separates the good hunters from the trash ones.

>>716083436
Questing seems like the main draw of this so I’m picking just based on what’s fun and comfy to level.

Depends on what my friends decide to roll.
More importantly it depends on if Shaman tank will be possible. If it is I'm doing that. I'm kind of uncertain because the class overview doesn't mention that as one of their intentions, but one of Shaman's talents is changed from TBC to no longer reduce threat generated if you have a shield equipped. Turtle got me hooked on Shaman tank and now I'm cursed to realize that it's unironically the best class in the game and that it was the role Shaman was always destined to fill.
>totems work better when you're the one doing pulls
>a tank has more reason to use every single one of shaman's totems than any other role
>chain lightning and lightning bolt are perfect pulling tools
>all shocks work fantastically for a tank
>fills a unique role of shitting on caster mobs harder than other tanks
>crit-focused tanks get massive synergy from agility
>having the tank fill the group support role just makes for even more DPS
It's perfection and I really hope Epoch enables it, too. Rather than it being a stupid gimmick you have to work way too hard to force like in actual Vanilla.

How is TBC Hunter in PvP?

I normally play Druid, but I'm a contrarian and there's going to be too many Druids this time. I like the idea of Hunter, but I don't actually know how the class works in PvP. Being able to play Tauren Hunter without missing out on PvP racials is a nice little bonus.

>>716080535
>custom client
>still using the generic azerothcore transmog module

that interface is garbage and there's no reason to have it when you aren't playing on an actual 3.3.5 client

>>716083968
Extremely good and easy to play in TBC

>>716084145
Do they have a decent amount of depth despite being easy to play? I feel like the pet stuff surely adds some depth to the class, and it's the most appealing part of the class fantasy for me. I'm also used to playing Warlock and microing my demon.

>>716067486 (OP)
priest

>>716083964
I heard Shaman tanking will be viable into the mid 30s but they didn't want to go crazy changing the enhance tree. No word if they will make a new spec for it or not.

>>716083964
Tank Shaman in dungeons will be viable, not sure on raids yet.

>>716078135
>>716074974
What the fuck? I need to get back and see what's going on with Ascension these days. Haven't played in a couple seasons 'cause I got sick of card grinding to make good builds

>>716084115
it's the 3.3.5 client though

My guild from SoD wants me to roll on Epoch with them but I'm just not feeling it.

>>716084115
Just don't use it then?

>>716081710
>>716081849
desu i'm not looking to "play vanilla" i'm just looking for an mmo to play for a bit and feel like the grognard percentage is necessarily going to be higher on private servers than retail
i'm just gonna play retail for a while casually then fuck off, so i have trouble imagining how retail would fuck up the experience of "dicking around in an mmo"

>>716084618
well the thing that got me playing ascension is the better combat since the gameplay is not vanilla and the classes archetypes, which seem to only be available in area-52, google them.

I usually roll a warrior because it's just the class fantasy and gameplay I enjoy the most, but I am seriously considering a hunter since I didn't see any huge warrior changes outside the talent tree (although rolling some sort of arms+prot abomination spec is kinda tempting to me if they do end up making elites hard hitting). Haven't played a hunter since TBC though

>>716084291
>>716084371
I'd be fine with it just being a dungeon tank into the 60s, really. I figure it's never going to be a raid main tank and will always fill more of a support role there, no matter what, which I'm fine with. I just don't want it to be a dumb gimmick you have to force to work and falls off completely while still leveling.

>>716085050
Eh, it really wouldn't. Only advantage of Epoch in your situation is that it's free. IMO you'd have a lot more communication with other players in Epoch as well but I can't judge how important that is for you

I've been itching to play an mmo but never played wow, should I give this a shot?

>>716085509
yes
don't overthink it, just give it a try and have fun

>>716085179
Warrior is mostly new to me and it’s got victory rush now, looking forward to that.
Wonder how many browns are going to be running around here compared to other vanilla servers.

>>716085050
>and feel like the grognard percentage is necessarily going to be higher on private servers than retail
Other way around. The only people who still play retail/official classic are terminal blizzdrone tryhards, whereas private servers have more new/returning old players who don't take it as seriously due to the ephemerality of private servers and lack of sunk cost.

>>716067486 (OP)
Female Gnome Priest

>>716085642
It will be super populated at first then die down fast. Usually the fresh chasers quit at 30 once they get their fix.

>>716067486 (OP)
Human Male Warrior, Arms, using 2-handed swords.

>>716078653
im not lgbtq2+ enough
and 1.12 client is shit

>>716085270
i'd feel a bit guilty since i'll probably quit within a month but that probably isn't that unusual
>>716085685
wack, i feel like newfags would just choose the default option of the official sub
maybe i just wait til friday and scope project epoch since i don't really have much time until then anyways

>>716078191
>a rogue can't heal! so this is why he must be top dps!
>enhance shaman healing 2% hp using 97% of his mana

lmao

>>716078647
>>716077864
>The Barrens is also easily the best zone in the entire game
I don't understand why people like the barrens so much. It's not bad the first time you go through it with a character, but it's such a drag after it. There is no story and no cool progression/link between quests and no nothing, just a hundred "Bring me 10 bear asses" quests that you have to repeat with every horde character, always seeing the same landscape, for a very long level bracket. The Elwynn->Westfall->Redridge->Darkshire journey is so much better, even considering how westfall is pretty bad. Even Tirisfal->Silverpine is better, I just wish it had more quests. I love the horde and I'll probably roll a tauren but I am not looking forward to another barrens run. I hope a lot of those new 1600 quests are in Silverpine so I can stay there as long as possible.

>>716086984
The reason people love the Barrens is that they can just stay there for ages. Alliance on the flip side is just hours upon hours of fucking walking/flying from zone to zone early on.

>>716087073
I see. I prefer seeing diferent environments but I get it. Since the server is cross faction I wish I could actually do alliance quests if warmode is turned off.

>>716078859
The guy in charge of class balance said a buff to Balance Druid is a priority after release (and that he wants to try something different than adding Eclipse). They should already be better than in vanilla though.

play on chromiecraft, ditch this project gaypoch

>>716083664
You can enable a setting to see everyone's true gear without transmogs.

>>716087495
>hostile to lgbt
>server named after a canon troon
?

>>716087495
what's good about that one?

>>716085203
They said Shaman should be able to tank anything pre-30 but after that it's probably not going to work, and they don't plan on changing it.

>>716082283
Yeah, no.
How do you deal with healing mobs? casters?
AoE grind as prot is great and all but they're ass to quest with

And good luck finding AoE spots on a fresh server

>>716086984
>get to Barrens
>pick up 10+ kill/collect quests
>start cracking at them in any order you want
>stroll across the majestic wasteland as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5s0MQvF9s plays
It is the ultimate leveling experience. I've done Barrens literally hundreds of times and not once I've been bored of it.

>>716087669
>and they don't plan on changing it.
fuck

>>716086984
>There is no story and no cool progression/link between quests and no nothing
The Naralex story is neat, and even though it's generic, the hunting animals questchain is massive. The Barrens in general is just a comfy zone with a huge amount of quests, and most of them are pretty good. Also considering 3/4 of Horde races naturally go there after their starting zone, it has a not of nostalgia value since you have to go there so many times. I guess people will either like it or hate it, but I love it.

>>716079606
The fuck is Gilijims ilse?
Google takes me to turtle wow and that scares me

Barrens is peak but Silverpine is still really comfy to me, I just like dark, mysterious forest shrouded in perpetual night.

>>716088109
It's basically a reskin of EotS with a STV flair.

>>716088109
It's an unfinished zone from the alpha that had a lot of work put into it before being cut for whatever reason.

>>716088190
>Tirisfal
>Silverpine
>Duskwood
>Felwood
spooky forests are the best

>>716076886
if you can be a priest, you should be able to be a paladin

>>716088346
Hell yeah.

>>716087969
Yeah it's a shame. One thing I loved about SoD were the extra specs and I hope they keep them in an eventual official Classic+. Mage healer was so much fun. That plus the rest of the runes wrecked PVP balance though, but I don't care about PVP.

>>716088469
No.

>>716088314
A normal occurrence for them at the time evidently. Its kind of nuts how much stuff got cut from vanilla.

>>716071874
Shaman is great when you can find opportunities to harass players near water, like giving a mage friend water-walking buff and shooting underwater questing allies from the surface

>>716088346
Race wise I prefer the horde but god I love questing in Duskwood.

>>716088469
I don’t agree. Priests are a pretty generic catch all for a religious practitioner and can apply to any culture.
Paladins are very specifically human centric crusader knights and the aesthetic doesn’t apply well to other races. Even dwarves are kind of pushing it.
All this to say I would still sooner take undead pallies over fucking tauren and trolls.

>alliance shaman
>Horde paladin
>Tbc talents and abilities

ROFL no thanks

>>716088919
>MUH NO CHANGES
classic era is right there for you and the rest of the autists who want to play the same thing until the end of time

>>716088919
Turtle is right there for you.

>>716068375
I prefer this over only seeing the night because most people only play after 8PM. Cycle seems short, but that's still better than vanilla. I don't understand the kneejerk reactions

>>716067486 (OP)
i really can't decide between druid and hunter
on the one hand i want a chill dps class so i'm leaning towards hunter but on the other i'm always afraid to play pure dps classes as a main because grouping is so fucking hard when you can't tank or heal

>>716089109
It's literally just shitposters.

>>716088919
>same unbalanced shit forever good
>trying to balance stuff bad
you people need to fuck off and make your own turtletranny or retail classic threads

>>716089109
Autism, muh no changes on the Vanilla+ server lmao.

The game has been out forever, there are so many better MMOs to play these days. Who gives a shit about classic WoW again again?

>>716089134
Yeah, I love hunter so much but it's rough finding groups. Last time I played I picked paladin and being able to tank shit was a godsend when forming groups.

>Sloppa designed for poorfag private server browns

nty!

>>716088975
>who want to play the same thing until the end of time
*Casts ice lance for the 10 billionth time*
TBC class design set the paradigm for retail until this day.

>>716088534
Blizzard was way to ambitious with WoW.
Seeing all those old plans for Outlands, Northrend, continent Uldum and Undermine all in vanilla was pretty fucking crazy. They really didn't know their limits.

>>716088919
tbc talents RAPE 'nilla talents

>>716089271
>there are so many better MMOs to play these days
I wish.

>>716089271
>there are so many better MMOs to play these days

>>716089271
because it's precisely not JUST classic wow again?

>>716089271
>there are so many better MMOs to play these days
If only that were true

>>716089271
It's not classic

>>716089225
>Try to balance stuff
>By copy pasting the expac that ruined wow forever
Boy I can't wait to use fucking steady shot again it was SO fun

>>716089271
>there are so many better MMOs to play these days
name three

>>716067486 (OP)
>playing some gay retard's version of what he thinks WoW should be
not touching it just like I didn't touch trannytle wow
what happened to actual vanilla servers?

>>716089534
Era and Anniversary, don't pretend you don't know about them.

>>716089514
fuck off and go play classic anniversary 54th edition then, i don't give a shit

Stay in your own lane faglords, why are you even here?

>>716089271
>there are so many better MMOs to play these days
please tell me, I'd like to know. there's osrs and uhhh
>>716089534
Classic happened anon, yes blizzard is shit and no you shouldn't give them your money but that's the truth of it

>>716089596
classic isn't actual vanilla, and is also populated by 99% bots

>>716086984
This. Barrens is soulless shit. But it's a very efficient leveling experience. The fact that it has become popular for anything other than /barrenschat shows how much the player base has changed.

>>716089432
check out apogea, it's tibia but kinda 3d, the playtest was so much fun.

if there's other good mmo like that please do tell.

>>716089680
>already moving the goalpost

>>716089667
>Classic happened anon
The first few months were very fun...

>>716088314
not only that, the location header is still in the game and actually accessible in classic. if you swim way far out into the fatigue zone west of STV, there's a small patch of water still labeled as being part of gilijim's isle. it has a general chat and everything.

>>716089395
They just shipped with what they had finished in the end.
Hyjal was 80% done too just needed quests and mobs. Turtle's version of classic Hyjal is decent and gives you a reason to go there at 60 at least. Interested to see what Epoch does with it if they ever try.

Seems pretty good concept wise but I'm not that interested in pve servers, part of the fun of new class balance is trying it out in world pvp as you level
I'd generally say quarrels while leveling with the other faction make up 80% of the fun in WoW to me. PvE servers are just no fun.

I have to reiterate though this is the first classic+ concept I've seen that isn't utterly retarded. All the others seem to just do random reddit suggestions and put them in like
>HURRR GIVE WARRIOR A HUGE SELFHEAL
>HURRRRRR MAKE SURE WARRIOR HAS GAPCLOSERS SO HE CAN BEAT A MAGE
>HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR MAKE SURE ALL CLASSES CAN BTFO A WARRIOR IN MELEE REGARDLESS
>MAKE IT SO A DRUID IS JUST A BETTER ROGUE/WARRIOR/MAGE/PRIEST ALL IN ONE!
which totally throws class balance upside down and shits on the actually pretty finetuned vanilla WoW balance. Project Epoch seems to be mostly avoiding all this garbage and instead makes pointed changes especially to racials etc that seem quite cool. You can tell they actually have people who play and like each class. Druid still seems like it's going to be OP though, that's the only caveat besides the PvE thing.

Is there dual spec in this?

>>716089620
I don't have to play either, shillbot

>>716089740
I burned myself out on vanilla during the elysium/lights hope debacle so I didn't play it at that time :(

>>716089680
99% of vanilla pservers were never actual vanilla either. It was all jank cobbled together shitcode.

arent these private servers known to be pay to win? how do they earn money making this ?

>>716067486 (OP)
Not sure if I can at launch, because playing Guild Wars 2 and Turtle Wow gives few time to another mmo. But if I go play Epoch, I will try Night Elf Rogue.

>>716067486 (OP)
will their custom client have malware like troondle's?

>>716089894
>>716089894
>pretty finetuned vanilla WoW balance.

>>716089924
At level 40, yeah

>>716090009
cryptominer
ransomware
lunix injection via wad
ads for pepsi products replacing in game textures
selling paypig skins
one or more of the above

>>716079102
What a dreadful combination

>>716089894
>finetuned vanilla WoW balance
kek
the only reason half the classes even get brought to raids is because of mechanics that specifically require them

>>716090154
You must be pretty retarded if you don't see it. The rock paper scissors not only in pvp but also many pvp applications is real
But I'm guessing your breadth of experience is
>warriors do the most dps so they're OP and balance sucks lol

>>716090658
Who gives a shit about raids though? Worst part of WoW by a landmile. Try moving away from that and vanilla will actually be fun, raids are like a daycare for 40 year old asmongold fans/hatewatchers

>>716090748
>vanilla
>rock paper scissors pvp
Just say you never played the fucking game.

>>716090808
>unironically caring about pvp
>unironically thinking druids will be OP in pvp because they got a little more AP
only on /v/ can you get people this retarded huh

>perfectly tuned
>vanilla pvp

so which hybrid is going to become busted, because that is always what happens with these servers and in Sod when hybrids get tweaked

>>716090860
>>716090886
Yeah idk I don't feel like arguing with some random fag on /v/ who probably raidlogs, funny how you simultaneously claim that pvp is bad but then also pretend you know shit about it. Be honest, you did a BG once and you hated it because you got raped

So what's the best money making prof on fresh? Alch/Herb? I got 2k gold before hitting 60 on turtle thanks to that.

>>716090886
>pve carebear
lol
lmao

>>716090989
>i care about BGs!!! i'm a hardcore PVPer!!!
>whines about the server not being forced PVP so that he can camp goldshire 12 hours a day
yeah right lmao

>>716090989
>reply to two different posts
>pretend they're the same person
I guess this is the level of discourse one should expect from "finely tuned vanilla balance".

>>716090963
Paladin. Feral got heavy nerfs on the beta.
Plus Paladin will be played by 50% of the server just like Turtle lel.

>>716091102
You got 2k on turtle because it's a 7 year old server with a fuckton of liquid gold on the market for lazy people to splurge with.

Do they have a plan to deal with the Chinese?

>>716091169
>outs himself as a retard who got camped in goldshire
>likely while erping
hahahaha

>>716091102
Probs still fine, same as Turtle you get a chance to get a black lotus from high level herbs.
Though people will need less consumes on epoch due to battle/guardian system.

>>716091302
I got 2k thanks to hardcore retards buying my pots.

>>716090963
why even ask? it's always paladin, literally every single time.
it's just an overpowered class on the conceptual level. a dpshealertank with heavy armor and the most utility of any class in the game, it's only held back from raping everything by intentionally gimped numbers.

>>716091102
Probably getting an account full of alchers set up for the transmute cool down would be the most afk brainless way to make cash.

>>716091312
>admits he doesn't actually pvp and just camps lowbies in goldshire all day
*yawn*
so much for all that "content to do outside of raidlogging" huh

>>716091401
>it's only held back from raping everything by intentionally gimped numbers.
the same could be said of any class

>>716091303
Not really. You can't speak Mandarin on General/World but they will still play. Exact same as Turtle.

Truth is the Chinese buy cosmetics way more than anyone, 100% Epoch will add them after a few months.

I will comfily level both on troontle and epoch at the same time
Slow ride nigga

>>716091401
>it's just an overpowered class on the conceptual level.
It isn't.

>>716091475
You know when people camp you you can just log off right?
>WTHUFGIDHGQHI ME??????! LOG OFF?!!!! I HAVE TO FARM CONSUMES FOR RAIDLOGGING FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK11!!!!!!!!!

>>716091598
>shits pants and has a melty over not being able to camp level 12 players in westfall
i accept your concession

>>716077923
This, epoch is DOA unless they add belfs and draenei. Not even kidding, their players will be begging them to add these daces when the initial hype falls off so I'll play in a month when they cave

>>716090963
shaman was a rape machine for so long on sod,

>>716091582
t. desperate paladin player

>>716091401
>it's just an overpowered class on the conceptual level.
how so?

>>716091793
Being able to specialize in different roles is not overpowered on the conecptual level.

>tbc talents again
>1k gold for dual spec
>yoooo undead paladin1!1!1!

i dont get it, where's the hype? why the excitement? can anyone genuinely explain this to me

>>716091696
They will probably add high elves to alliance and goblins to horde later.

>paladintards once again proving they can't read
lol

What's wrong with TBC talents?

>>716092037
revamped dungeons

>>716092059
They need to oneup Troontle so it’ll be more fringe picks like naga

>>716092137
Concession accepted.

>>716092183
It's mainly WC/DM that get all the love. The rest are tweaked.

>>716092037
1k for dual spec is pretty retarded, yeah. hope you guys weren't planning on doing both pve and pvp because holy shit that's gonna be a massive pain in the ass.

>>716092235
High Elf/Goblin are too obvious a choice and Goblin was pretty close to being added in Vanilla anyway.

Naga/Ogre have issues with gear scaling on them and clipping for Naga's tail. I think Metzen wanted Naga badly but the clipping issue and gear fitting on them was something the team said they couldn't solve.

Can I play as a Troll Druid?

You could randomly pick talents via a dice roll and perform just as well as someone meta-pathing their talents until you hit like 50 anyways, who cares about dual spec?

>>716092458
the fact that retail still doesn't have naga despite completely abandoning the idea of visible gear with the gay ass dragons is hilarious to me

>>716092473
nope
only new class they get is lock

>>716092037
F R E S H

Project epoch seems like it has some good ideas, but I just don't get how you fags can handle the same leveling experience for quite literally 10000s of hours literally.
You've done it millions of times and there's no depth to it.
Just because some text has changed with the new quest givers dialgoue and there's a few new textured areas does not really bring about a totally new experience or anywhere close to it.
Atleast when you would get bored of leveling you could kill and harass other fags through wpvp, but that's gone through pve only servers.

>>716092630
bruh, so druid is still locked to taurens? meh

>>716092183
Oh yeah, just like Cataclysm? Just what I wanted, some retard who didn't work on vanilla decides he can do better

>>716092746
They're adding new quests and questing hubs in the zones and I'm interested to see what they do and if the rewards are stated nicely.

>>716092576
They will sooner or later, it's something they want to save before those races will be super popular. They even use Ai to help stretch gear properly on all races now.

Do they have a plan to deal with the Russians?

>>716092771
>wants to play a shitty retail version of classic
lol
druids should be locked to Night Elf

>>716092843
So what? Tbc had new quests. So did wotlk. It's just new dialogue and more boar asses to collect.
You need whole new zones to shake up the formula and there's only a small amount of new places

>>716092746
>pvptard admits he thinks the game sucks
>but would also willingly play it for hundreds of hours just to occasionally gank some guy and waste 2 minutes of his time
genuine mental illness
never met a sane pvpfag

>>716071089
Wait is that a fucking Kud Wafter model?
... Why? That's gotta be a special kind of schizo.

>>716093038
>he thinks collecting bear asses and fighting mindless CPUs is fun
PvE players truly are barely sentient. You would get the same amount of satisfaction from watching grass grow and paint dry. Dragonslayers are all absolutely mentally ill and can only think in terms of number go up.

>>716093038
Many such cases.

>>716092906
This is what really makes or breaks a server for me.
If fuckers don't get chat mutes for non English outside their guild chats, I won't be playing.
I don't want to see slavshit.
I don't want to see gookshit.
I don't want to see beanshit.
I don't even want to see euroshit.
English ONLY

>>716093001
Do you know the scope of the changes? Then shut up.

>>716093038
Pvp interactions make the world fun, dynamic and give weight to your actions.
Calling upon help in general chat because some filthy alliance adventures are taking up your recources of kobolds in stone tail mountains and eradicating those fucks feels amazing.

Christ it's been what 20 fucking years of you guys squabbling about pve and pvp? Put that shit to bed already.

>>716093348
>Pvp interactions make the world fun, dynamic and give weight to your actions.
>95% of pvp interactions:

>>716093601
pvptards are completely incapable of letting it go. notice how no one was talking about pvp until some retard showed up and started having a melty over pvp being optional? they're completely obsessed.

>>716093601
Hey fag, I want engaging gameplay in my mmo, just because you like spamming frostbolt and looting boar assholes for 300 hours on your way to 60 does not mean I should have to subject myself to only doing that. I want fights, guilds, drama, and social engagement.
You pve fags just keep to yourself never talk or engage with the world and make the game feel dead.

>>716093601
20 years of PvE carebears seething at PvP chads

The game is such boring slow paced shit, it's made for the retirement home. Let's go to wailing caverns for 2 hours for the 10th time!

>>716093763
This is cope, most high level players don't even bother with low level noobs, and while your questing 99% of the engagement is with players + or - 3 levels.

killing a faggot the same level as you and then getting spawncamped by 4 of his max level fuckbuddies because he got mad about it is peak engagement honestly

>>716093881
There's no challenge or suspense either the games mechanics are beyond solved, but hey let's shit on those heckin mythic retail fags!!! Our game sure is better that theres!

>every single pvp server, without fail, ends up completely one-sided because nobody actually likes the reality of wpvp only the fantasy in their head
>pvpfags shut their eyes plug their ears and scream whenever this is brought up
lol

>>716093798
This doesn’t even happen on PvP realms and hasn’t since 2005
Look at any modern server and it’s so skewed towards Horde or Alliance it genuinely may as well just be a PvE realm

You faggots realize there will be forced zone pvp when World Bosses spawn right? Which sounds like a really solid solution honestly.

>>716093947
The world's to populated for a group of losers to corpse camp for a long stretch of time. Project epoch is going to be hugely populated.

Human female (male) warrior. Black hair, Bob cut. Mining + Smithing.
Prot-Arms mix during leveling so I get to both tank and dps in dungeons (LOL, lmao, as if there will be anything but tanking). I hope there will be enough paladins on alliance side for me to snatch one into my pocket to be a little healslut bitch during leveling

>>716094112
You mean I’m going to have to fight people the same level as me? Fuck that

>>716094112
I want organic leveling wpvp not some pre-prepared 40 man 1000 pings aoe machine simulator.
Hilsbrad in wow and sod classic was the most awfully boring thing ever.

>>716094169
Yeah you're gonna have to fight the other faction for the honor of killing the boss.

Will it have dungeon finder or is that still faux pas? Im fine with spam whispering everyone online in my level range but I don't see how it makes things any more or less sociable

>>716089236
Has nothing to do with it retard.
>>716089186
You're literally just retarded. Going through day/time cycle every few hours is just stupid and kills the atmosphere 3-4 hours is way too short.

>>716094227
>I won’t engage in PvP if there’s a chance I might lose
yeah you and every other pvp purist

>>716094227
More like 400 man

>>716094123
right, because when lilboner the bored undead rogue decides to park his level 32 ass in sentinel hill and corpse camp lowbies for hours, everyone else is going to stop leveling and go play hunt the rogue with him all day.

>>716087495
i've always wanted to play chromie
i guess i'll try it after epoch dies (3 months)

what is this? a new vanilla wow server with some changes? Is it even launched yet

>>716094236
I think they'll have the LFG thing for queueing but no dungeon teleportation

>>716094227
>I want organic PvP!
>no, not like that!

>>716093881
Don't disrespect your seniors laddy. You'll be old too one day

Corpse camping, high level players ranking lobbies, and apparent unbalanced faction ratios don't happen until 1-2 years into the servers life cycle.
The reason we shit on you pve fags Is because wpvp for the first 6 months of a servers lifecycle is the most fun engaging chaotic shit ever fueled with 10x the social interaction you will ever get from pve content. I can understand pve fags qualms with the issues of pvp after that time frame though.

>>716094725
Google
Read the thread
Faggot retard.

>>716067486 (OP)
I really dislike the way this logo looks. It's like a bootleg hearthstone logo.

>>716094826
t. didn't play nost or any other big classic pserver

>>716094851
It's really unhealthy to be so angry, you should try some breathing exercises buddy. Hope your day gets better

I don't get it why you people are so confident about the whole "there will be a huge population" take. I played beta tests and second one had 500 people at day 1 and by the time of shutting the server down only 80-100 still online.
My optimistic expectation: ~1200 at start and down to 350-500 stable after two weeks

>>716094783
I mean Wailing Caverns was cool when I first did it 21 years ago...

>>716094987
No need to project, "buddy".

>>716094826
why tell lies on the internet?

>>716094997
yeah, pservers don't get the massive pops like they used to now that classic exists. there'll never be another nostalrius-tier megaserver.
i like small servers so it's fine, but anyone expecting anything like that is in for a rude awakening.

>>716088527
>>716088787
the order of the silver hand was established by the humans during the second war by training priests in martial combat skills. they are literally priests who learned to use weapons.

>questing area in a high traffic zone facilitates pvp fights: good
>world boss in a high traffic zone that facilitates pvp fights: bad
I don't get it, most ganks aren't randomly encountered on the road. You want to gank people you go to where the questing spots are. Don't act like you aren't being subtly influenced to go to certain parts of the zone to pvp.

>>716093601
>20
30. Carebears have been crying about pvp since Ultima in the 90's

>>716095318
people will really act like they aren't going to hang around shimmering flats as a ranged class and gank warriors or whatever. i don't get it.

>>716067486 (OP)
Male dwarf warrior with mining and blacksmithing, kino awaits

>>716068007
Agreed, raids should be scrapped and/or converted to 5 mans.

>>716094236
>I don't see how talking to people makes the game more sociable
You might be retarded brother.

>>716095375
This thread is full of minigamers crying this server doesn’t let them take out their pent up frustrations on lowbies though.
Nobody even brought up pvp until you guys showed up because nobody else cares.

>>716068007
at that point why not just play a real pvp game instead of a shitty afterthought side mode?

>>716095465
World pvp fags are much like homosexuals; they were abused in their youth and grew up to become the abusers themselves, going through insane loops of logic to justify their behavior about how it's actually a good thing

>>716089109
>I prefer this over only seeing the night because most people only play after 8PM.
This. I legitimately thought there's only night-time for months because I only played in evenings.

>>716074949
I'm planning to play an undead priest

>>716096009

>>716067486 (OP)
>old client
lmao no

>>716096083
It's still more original than playing undead rogue, which was my first character.

>wpvp is all max levels ganking low levels and nothing else
And other non-pvper lies.

>>716078167
This shit interests me greatly, how much of a hassle is it to set up?

>playing on a server where everyone can play either faction and we're all friends and you can never die
whats the point?

>>716096269
The gay furry roleplay or whatever carebears do between raidlogging and collecting dragon testicles

>>716096196
It's wrath client

>>716093242
>English ONLY
That's the rule, yes.

>>716096269
There aren't any rewards or consequences for engaging in PvP aside from time wasted corpse running, so what's the point of WoW at all?

>>716067486 (OP)
i WILL be playing druid
i WILL be tanking dungeons
you WILL NOT be in my groups if you're a hunter, rogue, or shaman
simple as

>>716096673
self satisfaction knowing that i made an alliance tranny seethe. the idea that i could be behind one of the people crying on r*ddit about how pve changed their life, its the simple things

>>716096710
You furfags are something else...

>>716067486 (OP)
Never played WoW, should I try this?

>>716096804
That's the thing, you're just a psychopath and proudly admit to it. Go play a game for people like yourself instead of complaining about this one

>he feels satisfaction knowing he made some random stoner waste 1 minute walking back to his corpse
>he does not understand that spending hundreds of hours leveling to do that means he has wasted orders of magnitude more of his own time playing a game he supposedly hates
the mind (if you can even call it that) of the pvpfag is an enigma

>playing WoW just to click on mobs and watch exp bar go up and never mess with the other faction at all
can’t even imagine anything more depressing and friendless.

One thing I never understood with Vanilla WoW was all the vendors selling white gear. Like I understand this is likely something the copied from EverQuest but even within the confines of their own game structure at no point would you ever find yourself buying white gear when you could get white gear for free from low level quests.

>>716097121
Its just for flavor. Serves no real function but to add a little layer of immersion which is something nu-devs always take for granted.

>>716097121
because the game was developed incrementally by dozens of people so there's lots of random shit and design cruft

>>716097121
yeah, this never made sense to me either. i think it was cata where they started having vendors sell shitty subpar greens as catchup gear, they weren't good but if you were really behind on gear for the expansion they made the initial questing a lot more bearable.
should've done that from the start.

What do you guys think I should play? prot paladin or prot warrior? which DPS spec is more fun for each?

>>716097213
Yeah I guess so, just at least when I tried out P99 for a bit it felt good to scrounge together enough money to buy some shitty vendor gear. Even as a starry-eyed noob back in the day in WoW I never even thought about looking at a vendor after the first time since 1) I already had white gear and 2) it was fucking expensive

>>716096970
yes and you should play with me and my friends

>>716097331
Prot war. I know 5 ppl who play paladins irl and two of em are trans.

>>716097121
It was neat and cool and helped with worldbuilding, as well as some vendor weapons had higher dps and where sometimes BiS for a few levels, also no real harm in adding them either

>>716097331
fury and arms are orders of magnitude more fun than ret. even with tbc talents/spells and the accelerated talent gain you're literally just autoattacking and casting judgment until crusader strike at 44.

>>716097406
what spec do they main?

>>716097401
Horde?

>>716095949
That and there appears to be time-of-day spawns for rares and other events so a shorter cycle is mandatory for this function to work.

>>716097501
One of the Trans dude is prot plays retail and sod prot.
Other trans is is also prot but only pvps he runs full 10-20 man gank squads with his guild and just bull dozes zones, comes in fully buffed with pots buffs...ect. this is on classic wow legacy servers BTW.

>>716096970
probably not but it's still a better idea than playing classic where everyone minmaxes every single tiny bit of fun out of the game

>Dwarf shaman
Sold. Will sign up for launch

>>716097668
we are going alliance

Torn between being a total faggot and power leveling a hunter with two gathering professions to feed gold and mats to my actual main (dwarf shaman) or just making a shaman

>>716095758
Name one medium to large scale pvp fantasy game that isn't ugly as fuck Albion. Oh wait, you faggots never can.

>>716098060
GW2, Darkfall, DUNC AWAKENING. You didn't say good.

>>716098060
if there's such a big market for that kind of game, then explain why one doesn't exist.
oh wait, you can't.

>>716098006
Power leveling is for those with an autistic and or Trans mind.

>>716067486 (OP)
Can I be a Draenei warlock? I want that Eredar drip.

>>716097121
some bows/guns you can find on vendors are pretty big upgrades if you get unlucky drops before 30+ when they actually start having stats.

I'll probably never raid, but I do feel like leveling up in a quasi-classic one more time without giving blizzard any money. I'll remake my old night elf rogue and have fun.

>>716098178
You can add ESO to that list.

>>716092037
>1k gold for dual spec
Wait, really? That's fucking garbage

I used to solicit gay ERP in world chat on private servers with a char named yugioh, one time this guy replied and came to me but didn't think I would follow through and alt+F4'd when I began

>>716079606
>arenas
>conquest points

>>716087425
>Eclipse
Thank God. I like the idea of balance druid but FUCK eclipse. Every single incarnation of it has been a headache to play around.

I'm pretty interested in seeing how a classic+ version of the game with BC skills, smaller raids and new zones will go. I really don't like the cross faction aspect but I suppose that's more for server longevity than anything else.

>>716097668
You can be my friend instead, we play horde

>>716094997
are you retarded? 500 is a ton for just a beta
same thing with 2000 people for just a stress test

>>716080142
>>716080535
The trasmog system is a weird opt-in system where it's enabled by default, but you can go to the transmog person in a major city to disable it which lets you see what other players are actually wearing. I plan on disabling it.

>>716067486 (OP)
Blood Elf Death Knight

Warlock, priest, or mage?

>GUYS ITS CLASSIC SERVER #50000000009 BUT FINALLY GOOD THIS TIME WE PROMISE! IT WONT BE RUINED BY AUTISTIC MINMAXERS EXHAUSTING ALL CONTENT IN 24 HOURS AND FORMING WEIRD ELITIST CLIQUES

>>716103125
Retards who don't realize it's not vanilla will make mages, but they'll drop substantially in a few weeks, I'd say they're a sleeper investment.

man i kinda wanna play arcane mage

>>716068375
yeah this is anti-soul

the best moments in vanilla are when you are grinding murlocs in westfall during dead hours and its nobody but you and the moon around

>>716068972
Unfortunately no other game has ever equaled classic wow's experience. Even with the flaws it was a fun, addictive game and it still is to some degree 20 years later.

>>716103125
Warlock, mages, and rogues were at the bottom of the last class poll I looked at. Priests have the large advantage of being healers during leveling groups though

>>716092746
>Project epoch seems like it has some good ideas, but I just don't get how you fags can handle the same leveling experience for quite literally 10000s of hours literally.
its the only redeeming feature of wow. its like playing a good 100hr single player RPG over and over.

cataclysm completely and utterly destroyed all of that, dead open world, and you are punished for not spamming dungeons.

>>716092746
>I just don't get how you fags can handle the same leveling experience for quite literally 10000s of hours literally.
People who like classic like the leveling experience you stupid fucking nigger. If they liked hitting max in a couple hours so they can brainlessly raid log one instance every week they'd just play retail.

>server can only hold 5,000 players
>28,000 people in discord
Oh no

>the epoch bandwagon mental got to me
>check out the game
>game looks fine
>"maybe the /vg/ thread won't be a tranny central like everything on the board"
>quick skim thru already reveals multiple thread celebrities and trannycords and people obsessing with them
let's hope someone keeps making /v/ threads for tranny-free discussion of the game

>>716106265
It's /vg/, anon. You knew what you were going to see

>>716068375
Soulless

>>716106121
They said they're going to slowly increase the maximum player count on launch and the following days. I expect a rocky launch with queues and crashes abound anyway.

>>716106121
yeah it might be joever before it even started

>>716107009
i expect unhinged turtle troons to DDOS the server for the first day, guaranteed

>>716106121
2019 queues were sovl

>>716092746
>but I just don't get how you fags can handle the same leveling experience
That's the best part of the game. Journeying around the world, fighting with the other faction, and getting ragtag groups for quests/dungeons is peak WoW. The farther WoW moved away from feeling like it took place in a world and closer to taking place in a capital city + instance, the worse it became.

>want to play druid like i always do
>somehow druids are the top picked class in every poll
damn
you guys think it's still worth rolling? i hate being the fotm class

>>716107265
just play what you want to play. i have never even once cared if my class is important or not.

>>716107265
HOTs stack in this version (unlike vanilla) so it's not a bad thing to stack resto druids.
Each raid only needs 1 boomkin and 1 feral, so those spots will be more limited.

>>716107265
druids are going to be peak with the current talents and skills, they'll be popular for sure
but it's a safe class too. tanking, healing, mdps, spell dps, you'll never have to worry about finding a spot in a group

>>716069801
Why don't you like Wotlk ? I feel like Wotlk and Cataclysm were the same kind of expansion, gameplay didn't really changed a lot between those two.

>>716092746
This. And (I'd say 'before you guys mention it', but you already have), the "1600 new quests!" really doesn't amount to much.
I played all 3 beta's and still nearly fell asleep from questing. There isn't enough new things, and it's widely spread out. You're still going to do the same annoying iconic quests such as "60 pirates" and "40 pirate hats" and "kill 60 beasts for Tirion" and "60 quilboar tusks".
There's almost no difference.
The worst part about this, is they think the minimal addition of these new quests is enough to add in a -50% Exp mode: that applies to quests too. Even Turtle isn't sadistic enough for that, just mob kills on their end, and even Turtle's amount of quests isnt enough to make it not a slog towards level's 40+. It's going to be an insane hassle on Epoch.

Based on the epoch page itself, wpvp looks fun. Sure you gotta toggle warmode but they detailed the rewards for playing with it on so I assume a good number of people will just passively have choose to toggle it. Why is everyone saying the opposite, though I haven't been paying attention to the game progress.

>>716108319
Because it's not "real pvp" if the opponent wants it

>>716108319
incels are pissed they can't grey camp or sit in the dwarf bunker in hillsbrad for cheap kills as easily anymore.

>>716108319
most wpvpfags despise opt-in systems because it means the people they can gank generally know what they're doing and can actually fight back.

>>716108319
Probably 'cause it's not vanilla-like or because they expect many people to not use it regardless and not get a lot of PVP compared to having an actual PVP server. I dunno. Better than being a strictly PVE server at least.

>>716108319
because I can't corpse camp low level allychuds in redridge on my level 60 rogue

>>716108319
>warmode

That's a no from me dawg

>>716067486 (OP)
Honestly the server seems like it will have the problem of devs min max autisming the fun out of it. In addition to the dev pet classes getting more attention than the rest (redirect for rogues lmao)
TBC design sucks ass too

>>716078859
Druid chads will be eating good. Can't wait to have multiple sets to multirole all content.

Any hope for leveling as sword and board warrior with TBC talents and not being absolutely miserable? I rerolled a rogue in TBC 'cause I had to swap servers

>>716108762
shadow priest haven't gotten anything new, like zero changes.

>>716108762
It already does. A lot of high end dungeons were oneshotting people in the betas. Stratholme Abom's have a hook that just oneshot healers. Tol Barad (5-man dungeon) was insanely unfun for every melee involved.
Fucking. You want powercreep? Avatar of Hakkar is just a 5-man Hakkar fight. Shade of Eranikus could be a raid boss.
UBRS is a high end gear 5-man now, and the final boss has a cringe secret mechanic (you need THREE fucking Seals of Ascension to bypass this secret mechanic, just for the FUNNIES). The whole thing is a powercreep fest, I wouldnt doubt it becomes minmax hell.

>>716108319
No one is going to opt into a warmode when all it does is give 5% extra exp.
Warmode has ALWAYS been a cope for not having pvp servers, people who want world pvp don't like it because only a fraction of players will use it and they'd just rather be playing on a pvp server and pve players don't like it because they don't like pvp.
I'd much rather it be a pve server with no warmode but specific zones are pvp zones where pvp is either always enabled or enabled for an event. Like if silithus was a max level pvp zone or every hour or two hillsbrad turns into a pvp zone for 15 minutes of southshore vs tarrenmill.

>>716108405
>>716108491
>>716108503
>>716108589
Yeah even so, previous points and the fact that there is some weight to the decsion of toggling warmode besides freely pressing the button at the faction capital at least means something.

You get exp for killing players in bgs and exp for wins and losses.

>optional pvp
lmao, no thanks

>>716109163
>*buys gold from chinaman*

not my problem

>thread stops once it hits 500
this shit isn't botted at all holy fuck.

>>716110196
It's sad to see

>>716110196
I swear that's at least 40% of discussion on the internet these days. The VISA/mastercard threads are especially awful to watch. LLMs are going to make anything public impossible to use in a few years.

>>716110196
schizoGOD...I kneel..

>>716087495
does it let me say the nigger-word?