Thread 716102695

>>716102695 (OP)
>castlevania mode

>>716102695 (OP)
I dont know what this game is, but im sure its a gacha

>>716102695 (OP)
This was happening to me in the Manor in Expedition 33. I thought it was a game effect since the Manor is surreal.

>>716103001
why is her eye so jiggly

works on my machine

>>716103273
Sure it wasn't lumen blur? That's a common thing now.

>>716102695 (OP)
>ISSHUN SENGEKI

>>716102695 (OP)
That's a lumen issue more then dlss
>>716103273
>>716103619
Lumen is the main issue with that section of 33.
In particular screen traces are the cause.

>>716103619
Oh could be, I have no idea what was causing it because I'm a bit dumb when it comes to this stuff.

>>716102695 (OP)
S-she's fast...

>>716102695 (OP)
She's fast!

>>716102695 (OP)
Unironically looks kino though, reminds me of old games

don't forget to generate your frames, its magic!

>>716103202
Kek

>>716102695 (OP)
Ghost Walker!

>>716102695 (OP)
Me dodging cloaked shit non vidya threads in the catalog

>>716102695 (OP)
UE5 strikes again

>>716106295
and it runs on literally anything that can run windows, as opposed to RTX, shove it up yo own ass compatible cards.

>>716106295
7 dollars for upscaling is a lot when plenty of games get it patched in for free

>>716107119
>it's totally comparable
Imagine just lying on the internet and not feeling bad about it.

After years of haunted game creepypastas the geniuses at NVIDIA have finally developed automatic ghost-generating technology, absolute kino

>>716107483
the latency difference alone is worth it, and at only the cost of a big mac too. Compare that to needing a multi hundred dollar GPU, and yes, it is better.

>>716107820
>multi hundred dollar
Good morning, sir. We have $2k+ GPUs in the free world.

>>716107190
>plenty

>>716107820
>americans weigh their software purchases in the number of big macs they amount to

>>716102695 (OP)
Hooked her up with the sandevistan

>>716103321
dlss

t-that afterimage!
she's fast!

>>716108008
>foreigners are offended by mentions of things they can't afford, like Nvidia GPUs or food
I guess when 90% of your paycheck goes to welfare, you get sensitive.

One day the world will realize that it supersamples or turns AA off

>>716102695 (OP)
Just dont turn on "DLSS extremely fast performance mode" faggit??
>>716103202
2pbp kek

>>716103619
>>716103720
Why are modern developers so retarded? I'm pretty sure UE5 literally says that Lumen doesn't need to be used in cases like this
Fortnite at max settings with Lumen looks great and runs even on medium hardware so it's not a UE5 problem

>>716102695 (OP)
I get ghosting even without meme technology. I hate unreal engine.

>boot up vidya released after 2018
>turn off upscaling and frame gen
>barely hold 30 fps
>game looks like someone spit in my eyes
>fans reach mach speed
>start sweating from every pore due to the heat

Oh yeah, now we're gaming.

Hayai!!!

>>716102695 (OP)
works on my machine :)

>>716102695 (OP)
TAA and FSR3 do be like that.

>>716102695 (OP)
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/2/2d/Scout_invincible03.wav

>>716108605
It's DLSS that does this, no the Unreal Engine 5, which should not detract from the fact that the UE5 is a piece of shit engine.

>>716107161
The Silent Hill 2 remake suffers from this really badly when it's foggy (lol). Turned it off but the dithering is so unbearably bad, I had to refund it, I have no idea how people are okay with his.

>>716107161
?
Mine doesn't look like this.
Maybe you're just retarded? Have you forced the latest DLSS present?

>>716108461
Lumen is sorta an all or nothing system where trying to mix it with more traditional methods is a pain the ass.
One thing to keep in mind is a lot of these games are on older UE versions while Fortnite is the latest release and the difference is staggering both in terms of performance but also other issues being resolved.

>>716111003
It's exactly the opposite
Lumen is just another tool that should work in tandem with other tools, developers choose to use it for everything
Same with the UE5 versions, nobody forces them to use unfinished features and Epic is pretty open about the fact that they are unfinished, they literally mark features that aren't ready to be used in games but developers use it anyway.

>>716103879
wtf, once he disappeared, I could never get him to show up again. I've opened it multiple times.

Messatsou

>>716111319
They do mark them, but shit like lumen isn't one of them. It was considered production ready on launch but frankly had a shit ton of issues that have been getting ironed out over the last few years.
Lumen does work with other tools, namely nanite, but I was referring to trying to mix static lighting with it.

>>716111652
A bad workman blames his tools
UE5 may look and work well and that's a fact
It's certainly not perfect but any engine is
After all developers choose to work on UE5 themselves so this attempt to shift the focus away from looks silly

>>716111691
kek
nvidia deep learning after images

>>716111965
What is this brownish word salad about?

>>716102695 (OP)
AMDjeet poorfag cope.
Don't worry, I am sure FSR4 support will ramp up one day.
kek

>>716102695 (OP)
>An afterimage?!
>S-she's fast!

>>716111438
depends on if the browser saves the gif position
open it in a new tab and press ctrl+f5

>>716102695 (OP)
what is this graphical "effect" called?
i saw something like it in Kingdom Come - Deliverance II and was trying to get rid of it.
have turned off all AI things and anti-aliasing is also off, still visible (not nearly this bad as in the webm)
is it just something that the cryengine does and you cant turn off?

>>716107161
>game runs perfectly fine on a toaster without DLSS
>run DLSS anyway
???

>>716112978
ghosting
temporal smearing
the absolute state of modern gaming

>>716113174
i think ghosting is a monitor issue, temporal smearing doesn't seem to describe it properly either (searching for videos on it it doesn't bring up something that looks like OP's example or your mp4)

>>716109261
>the wiki says that voice line is a reference to the sound effect from The Six Million Dollar Man
huh, I never thought of that. but I do hear it.

>>716112887
haha that made him come back thanks

Works on my machine.

>>716102695 (OP)
this is what framerate fags want

>>716107161
Didnt happen for me at all, you guys all liers.

HAYAII

Just got back into this game. I left after The Upate. Logging in and seeing all that crap and the retcon. What a mess.

And I don't think I'll buy a monthly card this time. Because I wont even be maxing f2p, I refuse to participate in Star Sea shit.

But I Love Nikki™...

>>716109261
>>716113514
i don't know what that is but michael scott references it in the office too by making a similar sound. so it must be true

>>716113405
The term ghosting can be used in both cases, it isn't limited to monitors, like how the term 'latency' can be used to describe many things. But yeah, you can disable everything and it will still be there because it's a bug present in the engine itself.

Hello?

>>716111438
Reinstall windows and try again.

>>716102695 (OP)
Why would you have DLSS on for something so visually primitive?

>>716111438
he’s on vacation again

>>716102695 (OP)
Plays like a dream

why don't i get ghosting when i use dlss, is it more noticeable at lower framerates or something

>>716103879
So this is the power of AIPAC ...

>>716106538
Xenoblade Fans Rise Up

>>716102695 (OP)
s-shes fast!

>>716109943
x10 framegen on a toaster looks like this

>>716102695 (OP)
>>716103001
just don't do that? you control the buttons you press

>>716102695 (OP)
TAA moment

>>716107119
And it's unfathomably awful and its one and only purposes is to run RPG Maker and other outdated pixel art games in fullscreen with nearest neighbor.

>>716115370
Shitposting using frame limiters and old versions of DLSS.

>>716120285
Can you post Doom Dark Age sale figures since you quote id Software?

>>716111965
>every single game made using this engine has basic, glaringly obvious flaws
>nuh uh it's just because they're not using it right
>only studio that can "use it right" is the studio that makes it and has 200 devs just for engine work
>still takes them years to get basic features working properly
The main reason to go with Unreal is you can make a game with "realistic next-gen graphics" with a small team. And you will have to compromise with eye-gouging known shippables.
The actual engine is fucking ass, and only a team which already had enough resources to make their own bespoke engine, just chose not to, can make something that looks good with it.

>>716120618
These same arguments are made about Unity and others.

Over the years I've had a few, average /v/ friends say
>I'm going to make a game
And these are people who can't make art assets, they can't program or model, they've never worked in the industry or adjacent to it, but they think a particular game engine is so good, that they can make a game without knowing or really caring how games work - and that other game engines are so bad that they won't be able to.

The problem is not Unreal - the problem is people new to it, using to pump out garbage, not using it to make making their own work easier. That has never been what engines are for. They are not for people trying to get lucky without any effort. People trying to get lucky without any effort are no indicative of an engine being bad, it's only as bad as the person using it - and that's the whole point.

>The main reason to go with Unreal is you can make a game with "realistic next-gen graphics" with a small team.
mhmm. Yawn.

I don't like these threads for this reason. Just a bunch of students bullshitting.

How the fuck does anyone think DLSS and TAA look good? It makes everything look objectively worse.

>>716121552
A project like E33 is a great example of UE utilized well and it has front and center graphical flaws.
Then there's CDPR using it only because they want to work on multiple AAA games at the same time and their own engine making process was too bespoke for that.
In either case no one is going for UE because it's delivering the best looking or smoothest result, but for production reasons.

>>716120506
Can you remind me which game won GOTY at the Game Awards in 2023?

>>716121558
Stockholme syndrome is a real thing anon.
They've been told that consoles are revolutionary so long that they literally can't see past 15fps at 240p.

>>716121558
>Bought SMT Vengance last sale
>Comes with TAA enabled because lol UE4
>First thing I do is figure out how to turn off that garbage and use MSAA instead
It looked horrible in motion I seriously think its the worst type of Anti Aliasing

>>716111438
H-he's fast!

>>716123349
>>716102695 (OP)
DLSS completely eliminates this

>>716107119
>windows
And linux arch

>>716102695 (OP)
Nice dishonest webm. That's a mod that for some bizarre reason increases the amount of temporal samples retained to the maximum amount possible. Mod breaks game > record it > OMG IT'S BROKEN HAHAHA.
This is what it looks like without the mod.

>>716112978
It's literally palinopsia, they somehow managed to recreate neurological disorder

>>716102695 (OP)
i hate UE5

>>716126923
That creature following the character is so gosh darn cute.

>>716126923
There's still insane ghosting, especially when you look at the pet.
If you don't see that then you might be blind.

>>716127139
Disingenuous faggot.

>>716127198
Bro... Your eyes bro...
Or what's your next excuse? Oh this is just the bitrate/video codec. You mean the selfsame that actually hides a lot of the ghosting?

>>716127278
OMG he's freaking cute! What game is he from anyway?

>>716127265
Not the point retard, yes there's ghosting, doesn't change the fact OP and you are disingenuous faggots.

>>716127278
sexoid

>>716102695 (OP)
I don't get it. What am I supposed to see?

>>716108461
>Fortnite at max settings with Lumen looks great and runs even on medium hardware so it's not a UE5 problem
Lumen has about 100 under the hood console variables to tweak it until it's very fine tuned, retarded devs don't use them. They use the 5 major options that are in Process Volume section of the UI

>>716127340
>Let me tell you what you meant with your post.
k

>>716126685
>"i use Arch" unironically

>>716127308
Infinity Nikki

>>716127427
Thanks! I never heard of it I'll have to look it up.

>>716103001
Porn is currently going through massive AI "upscaling" and now most of the girls faces morph just like this.
Absolute boner killer even 480p is better than this "4k60fps" blurry dogshit.

>>716111003
>One thing to keep in mind is a lot of these games are on older UE versions while Fortnite is the latest release
The major issue tardo nodevs can't wrap their head around
>5.3 patch notes talk about Lumen improvements
>Comments are nothing but complaining about how SH2R still runs the same
>Check game
>Version 5.1.1
>5.5 patch notes talk about drastic lumen overhaul
>Comments are nothing but complaining that it didn't improve STALKER 2
>Check game
>Version 5.1.1
People think when the engine gets updated all the games that were version locked when they started development in 2021 just magically get upgraded

>>716102695 (OP)

h-hayai

>>716109943
>Have you forced the latest DLSS present?
>just patch the game for the devs!
>works great if you mod it!
How about no? I will not support any developer that forces TAA or requires DLSS to hit 60fps+ at 1440p.

>>716127198
Blind nigger

>>716127662
>Nooooo, customizing my game is HARD, I don't want to press 1 button to solve my whining!
God I wish PC gaming had stayed gate kept so retarded consolefag converts didn't flock over because the PC MASTER RACE bullshit

>>716127478
>Empornium slowly getting plagued by upscales

>>716127726
>I don't want to press 1 button to solve my whining!
So why don't the devs do it? Why are games coming out this year still using DLSS models from over 5 years ago?

>>716127478
similar thing is happening with censored JAVs, AI is used to fill in the mosaics which just results in morphing genitals, also makes it much harder to find real uncensored videos as both are titled the same

>>716127834
>UNCENSORED LEAK!!!!
>it's an AI edit more blurry than the censored original
AI has been a disaster for the Internet.

>>716127726
if a game needs mods to not play and look like blurry garbage where only fix is using jewwidia proprietary tech its not worth spending my money on, everyone making excuses for incompetent jeet devs should be shot.

>>716127834
The real uncensored ones are all garbage though that don't have the interesting premises.

>he doesnt leave an after image when he runs fast
Stop skipping ki day bro

>>716102695 (OP)
Thats FSR btw

>>716102695 (OP)
>10-15 years from now
>nostalgic zoomers and gen alphas will post on /v/ calling this sovl and kino

>>716113405
it literally cannot be a monitor issue unless you're recording your screen with an external camera.

>>716127817
i look like that

>>716102695 (OP)
I love playing as a female character, how about you guys?

>>716128505
I play whatever. I don't self insert so it's all about gameplay/story for me.

>>716112978
There are many things that can introduce ghosting.

DLSS does, obviously. A ton. TAA does too. Raytracing does too (though differently). Then there are genuine bugs in the engine.

>>716128896
>DLSS does, obviously. A ton.
I have yet to actually see this myself, I swear you all are just AMD niggers stuck on your poorfaggot FSR and coping.

>>716128896
>Raytracing
gaytracing also rapes texture quality something almost nobody talks about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3ZHzJ_bhaI

>>716102695 (OP)
MESSATSU

>>716129134
Happens to me on my Nvidia. Bare in mind I'm a total retard when it comes to properly setting up graphical settings in a game and just use whatever default they start me with.

>>716129134
You might actually be blind.

>>716102695 (OP)
do you really need dlss to run a ue4 game anon?

i should play nikki some more...

>>716120285
You can't turn it off in Mecha Break, it's forced on in the menu screens even if you turned it off in the settings.

Isn't this what happens when you kill a boss in kingdom hearts?

>>716127139
Why would OP need to fake a webm if the original is already "insane". You think the thread would've gotten the same amount of replies if he posted the real one?

>>716129743
It's called hyperbole anon. Obviously anyone seeing this webm understands this is probably not the state of the game as intended, and it's either a bug or a misconfiguration. It's basic reading comprehension, a hyperbole to make a point.

>>716102695 (OP)
KA KA KA KACHI DA ZE

>>716121558
There's a lot more factors to this shit than "oh it's sharp" and "oh it's not sharp." DLSS and TAA are both inferior to 0AA in terms of sharpness but 0AA's issues in current games are incredibly distracting. Go mod Cyberpunk2077 to turn all antialiasing off then move your character or the camera: moire patterns everywhere, distant lights blinking in and out of existence, every shiny surface glittering like crazy, all screen space effects and reflections look like TV static, and the geometry's snapping and shimmering all the time. The image issues just shit on your perception of the ingame detail, the only advantage of 0AA is sharpness which let's face it's just high contrast between neighboring pixels and you can force it with a sharpening filter. Like it or not modern games are built on temporalslop and even if they weren't, traditional AA methods are not good enough to fix it. Even just raw 4x SSAA doesn't accomplish the magic it once did, because it doesn't address the types of image issues we see now.

TAA is shit but DLSS is just the endgame boss version of TAA that actually does what TAA was always supposed to do. Antialiases and cleans up everything between frames with minimal quality loss. DLSS looks bad only if you're a 1080pfag or have a giant monitor - if you don't want any quality loss at all then just use DLAA or FSR4AA.

>b-but that doesn't give more FPS
Tough luck fag, all the good antialiasing modes from before also never gave you FPS either. In fact MSAA and SSAA in modern games rapes your FPS more than gaytracing ever did.

>>716102695 (OP)
s-she's fast!

>>716102695 (OP)
unironically how did we get here

>>716130485
deferred rendering

>>716130485
line must go up

I hate the image problems in modern games.

>>716130118
>1080pfag
you literally need 800$ current gen gpu to play AAA slop at 1440p or higher, in 2 years new wave of unoptimzed poojeet outsorced trash will make your gpu, which costs as much as used car, obsolete and you will need to cope with lower settings, upscaling and framegen, 1080p is the only sensible resolution if u dont like getting assfucked by njudea or amd

>>716129954
>Obviously anyone seeing this webm understands this is probably not the state of the game
Yeah anon obviously anyone understands that. Definitely not a ton of retards online who take it at face value, and that's definitely not the actual goal of posting such things.

>>716102695 (OP)
Alucard did this in SOTN and nobody complained

Why is lumen?

>>716130798
The OP's webm is most likely not fake. You will see these effects more or less pronounced depending on the settings you use. Today, you don't buy the best GPU to push graphics to the limit, you buy the best GPU to try to reduce image degradation as much as possible.
The RTX3090, which was the top of the line released in 2020, is already obsolete today because the image you get in games that use newer technologies is quite degraded. I find it disgusting to play Unreal Engine 5 games like Talos Principle 2 on my RTX3090.

>>716130853
It's literally okay when vampires do it

>>716129134
Stop being poor then and buy a pc

>>716111438
behind you

>>716131230
Fucking bitch ass motherfucker using familiars and shit

>>716131078
The OP's Webm is what you get when you go into engine.ini of a UE game and increase TemporalSampleCount to an outrageously high number. the actual game without this change looks like >>716126923
You don't even need any DLSS for this visual problem to happen.

>>716112978
ghosting
disable DLSS, Frame Generation, and TAA.
if you disable TAA you might get artifacts because devs expect you to use it.
the ghosting is thought of as a "minor" price to pay.

>>716127198
are you rarted

>>716131630
It's still not good.

>>716128110
grim

>>716103593
Of course it does, this is intended
The question is whether or not you accept this slop or don't

>>716102695 (OP)
I use DLSS with my 4k monitor and I've never seen anything like that happen. But that may be some old version of DLSS or just some really bad implementation of it, who knows. DLSS was indeed shit in the past and some games still try to force ancient presets like preset D which is always a ghosty mess.
I force the DLSS4 Transformer model in games and usually stick to 50-100% input resolution depending on game and my framerate, and it looks near-perfect. Not perfect but near enough. You can in some cases spot trails left by dark objects rapidly moving against a light matte background (it reminds me of VA trails) but only if it's really far, and it's a small price to pay for the rest of the image looking near-perfect at a better framerate than usual.
The only game I've played that has shown actual visual artifacts you can't stop noticing is the heavy volumetric fog AC: Shadows, but I change the DLSS preset to preset E and the problem goes away. I've seen people say that you should just turn all AA off and play at native 4k but that spawns new, completely different image issues that are honestly way more noticeable than some slight smear in the distance.

>>716102695 (OP)
SHES FAST

>>716107161
looks kind of cool. like similar to psychadelic visuals
captcha: MNVDA

>>716102695 (OP)
I've been playing Robocop shit looks like that all the time it's fucking unbearable. The game would look really good without the Lumen and blurslop but NOOOO we gotta make the entire thing look like shit.

>>716103720
>That's a lumen issue more then dlss
Lumen (if software mode at least) doesnt compute rays every frame and uses something from previous ones. Together with any frame generation and anti-aliasing it can produce sever ghosting effect.

>>716127395
i-it's only because of steam deck, I swear

>>716131782
dawn

>>716130485
Execs think that replacing a white man with 20 indians will decrease expenses.

>>716102695 (OP)
GENEI JIN!

>>716102695 (OP)
Glitch Stair

>>716102695 (OP)
DLSS doesn't have ghosting that bad, that's likely UE's TAA which has ghosting issues.

A lot of idiots blame UE flaws on DLSS, like Software Lumen's light bleeding which is due to Consoles being poor at RT.

>>716102695 (OP)
Is this why most games seem to use cell shaded graphics now?

AFTERIMAGES THAT HAVE MASS?

>>716134260
Based F91chad. I wish Bandai would properly re-do this instead of shit like WFM and Gcucks

>>716126941
>>716127054
don't encode in potato quality when the purpose is to focus on the visuals. these have more artifacts than an average jpg.

>>716113086
it's UE5
unless you have a 4090 you need DLSS to get decent FPS

>>716128178
some cheap monitors in the past had a noticeable delay in updating pixels, this was called ghosting.

>>716129548
I haven't played the game in ages. I heard is doing pretty bad nowadays though, which is a shame.

>>716102695 (OP)
Is ultra performance plus frame gen or something? I use dlss balanced all the time and I've NEVER seen this. Is it high response time monitor thing?

i've noticed that most of the people amazed by AI shit online have been 45-60. do you suddenly become retarded overnight while in that range?

>bwo its yor monitor
my brain actually got fried from these comments

>>716135673
no shit Sherlock; you'll still never see that kind of ghosting in a video unless you're recording your screen like a complete dumbo.

>>716102695 (OP)
but that looks cool. i must have different priorities from most people. i also prefered the earlier "worse" ray tracing from older versions of cyberpunk that had a ton of shimmering artifacts in it because that looked pretty. i love artifacts

>>716133448
this is what i noticed in Kingdom Come Deliverance II
nowhere near as bad as your webm but i see it even when i have anti-aliasing off and resolution scaling off (no dlss). all advanced settings are experimental ("future" max) except 3 that are on ultra

>>716136480
Get off of /v/ Indiana Jones

>>716136209
no shit Sherlock; you are the one that brought up recording the screen for no reason

Sorry fags I only use DLAA

>>716136605
>>716113405
>'i think ghosting is a monitor issue'

>>716135673
are you seriously this retarded that you think if you have black and white screen the vid would be black and white too?

>>716112686
Where does the "an afterimage? she's fast!" bit come from? I won't be able to sleep until I remember, I feel like I have it in the tip of my tongue but I can't place it and it's bothering me a lot kek

>>716137282
Literally every shounen manga for the last 50 years

>>716136704
Little bro probably just heard grandpappy talk about CRT screens getting images burnt in and now he thinks he knows what he's talking about, it's not worth it

>>716136704
>it literally cannot be a monitor issue unless you're recording your screen with an external camera. >>716128178
but ghosting is a monitor issue. it is both, apparently.

>>716136903
>more nonsense
stop wasting my time and stop misunderstanding

>>716102695 (OP)
If this bothers you you're not a real gamer

>>716136704
Ghosting can be a monitor issue. Most VA monitors have ghosting/smearing issues with darker colors.

>>716138696
but >>716102695 (OP) isn't monitor ghosting, and neither is >>716113174.

>>716126923
way to prove op right, retard

>using any form of temporal anti-aliasing
couldn't be me

>>716130118
This tbqh

>>716131782
fandango

>it's DLSS
>it's FSR
>it's TSAA
well which is it for real

>>716142173
Deferred rendering.

>>716142173
I've played two games with Lumen and they both had this issue
A lot of people complain about Unreal Engine 5 but it's even worse than they say it is. All that shit they're advertising in the TW4 demo will also end up looking like shit, I guarantee it. The voxel foliage will have graphical errors and we'll come to find that it actually was better to just have a 2D texture for distant foliage than the retarded shit they're doing.
I hate Unreal so much it's literally unreal. Every feature they announce is just something that will make it look worse.

>>716134260
Man I tried to watch the first episode of quuuuuuuux or whatever and I wanted to fucking cry

>>716102695 (OP)
Stills look great though

>>716142173
In the webm that started this particular thread? Could be any of the three. All three depend on temporal rendering and what >>716126923 says is true, if you up the amount of temporal samples retained from previous images to a very high amount, this is what you get. If properly tuned TAA/FSR/DLSS will have an unnoticeable minimal amount of ghosting (but never 0 ghosting) and OP webm is what you get what you tune it to have max ghosting.

Modern grafix sure are something

>>716143161
HL2/Portal RTX are not good examples at all. They run like shit and look like shit. You need to make a lot of adjustments on the advanced settings to get things to look decent.

>>716130118
cs2 and alyx do not have these issues

>>716143161
you sure thats not an issue with the lightsource clipping beneath the ground?
you can clearly see some kind of debree on fire below the floor roll past and clip back through

also thats just rtx duct taped onto an ancient engine as opposed to something designed for it

>>716129954
>>716127139
so, it's not "insane ghosting" then?

>>716102695 (OP)
why are you playing goyslop?

>>716143416
all ghosting is insane because it wasn't a problem only a scant few years ago.

>>716143524
>all ghosting is insane because it wasn't a problem only a scant few years ago.
Ghosting has been a problem since fucking Halo Reach, that's when TAA reached modern games. That ghosting in Halo Reach is worse than any ghosting you can ever see in games nowadays. And yet it was okay back then and took years for people to notice, because people didn't stamp negative labels and didn't perform the AHH ITS AI SAVE ME GABEN song and dance.

>>716143524
so it's not even a problem? it's the exact same graphics as every other game?
interesting.

>>716143524
DLSS/TAA got pushed hard around 2017-2018
As soon as every game devs in the world got convinced to use it they started designing games where you have to turn it on to fix all rendering artifacts.

>>716103720
Is there a fix?

>>716143784
don't deliberately mangle my very clear sentence in your brain, dickhead.

>>716127932
It only looks like that if you turned dlss on in the first place.

>>716143889
TAA has been a widespread thing in multiplatform games since about 2015. DLSS wasn't even a thing until about 2019 and that was the early version of DLSS that was trained on a per-game basis and nobody cared about it, the real DLSS only started getting popular around 2022.

>>716120374
For me it's gamescope

>>716144016
>its insane
>ok that was just hyperbole
>its actually just standard graphics
rite ok bud

>>716144456
>>its actually just standard graphics
No, no it isn't.

>>716144456
nigger

>>716102695 (OP)
average nintendo switch 2 experience

>>716128110
Old /v/ laughed at newfaggots getting nostalgic over COD games. Those old modern shooter HUD/UI threads we all thought were jokes came to pass. Time is a flat circle

>>716144698
no its just basic predictable human behavior

>>716144493
you're black

Test

>>716129954
>Obviously anyone seeing this webm understands this is probably not the state of the game
lol
the #1 purpose of making "funny exeggeration" webms is to mislead retards into thinking that's a faithful example of what is actually happening
if the original problem was so big and noticeable, you wouldn't have to embellish it through edits. kinda like how Hollywood actresses nowadays ruin their face with plastic surgery, you don't need to edit the photo to make them look awful - in fact if you edit it, you're kinda just proving it's not that bad because you needed an exeggeration edit to make it noticeable

>>716145012
black of heart yet clear of mind, and you'll always be an utter faggot

>>716142173
The OP clip is a result of some internal engine settings and can be minimized. But generally, DLSS and FSR produced ghosting like that in Darktide when I was testing (6900xt and 3090). I noticed it was far more severe with transparent assets like the holographic displays. FXAA just makes the entire screen blurry and wouldn't cause ghosting.

>>716102695 (OP)
Why the fuck would this game need DLSS?

Just buy a 5090 bro.

>>716102695 (OP)
ni

>>716145761
>Just buy overpriced GPU and be excited for next overpriced GPU
Even PC gaming is cucked

>>716102695 (OP)
>turn on dlss
>it looks and works great with 0 ghosting because it's not using any outdated versions on outdated resolutions with lowered settings or edited CVARs

>game development has gotten so inefficient and lazy, developers are literally asking players to create their own in-between frames now based on their imagination

what a world

>Mimicking the same visual bug old CRTs had with 10000x the processing cost
do AIfags really?

>>716102695 (OP)
>can't even display the most basic thing, TEXT, anymore without artifacting
https://youtu.be/ovSpU8pfpWU?t=62

>>716102695 (OP)
Hes clearly running very fast and its a blur trail to simulate that

>>716151798
Talos Principle 2 is one of the uglier examples of TAA + Lumen ruining image quality. Croteam really fell off, can't believe it's the same company that made the original Serious Sam games, those were tech miracles. Talos 2 is pure slop.

>>716152268
Reminder that the barely moving backgrounds for the main menu are Bink video files that take up about the same space as the first two Encounter games combined.

indian marketers will call you brown for not wanting your games to look like this

>>716152459
What the hell happened to Croteam?

>>716153593
Most of the talent either retired or went to work in Google or some shit.

>>716153593
Fell of a cliff somewhere during the development of Serious Sam 4.
Alen Ladavac, their main tech and engine guy, left for Stadia and later Robolox and the chumps that followed were rather subpar, including some infamously incompetent modders and level designers that were more interested in posting their feet on Discord than fixing their shit.
Come to think of it, they weren't credited in TTP2 - I wonder what they're even doing these days....
https://www.mobygames.com/person/1119899/nika-dvoravic/
oh...
OH....

it's been what 25-30 years since 1080p became the standard and devs still keep using upscaling from resolutions equivalent of old youtube videos?

>>716155664
you mean
>it's been what 25-30 years since 1080p became the standard and the PC "Master Race" still games on 1080p displays with adding upscalers into the mix, wondering why their games are plagued with image issues

>>716127726
If you want me to do that I want 40% off from my game purchase asshole

>>716156016
>and the PC "Master Race" still games on 1080p displays with adding upscalers into the mix
okay? and it also props up virtually all modern consoles who upscale it from a worse res.

why has optimzation gone so wonky
MSAA was simple enough
now we purposefully render games at a lower resolution to then upscale to the proper resolution but also assume what the next frame is going to look like by looking at previous frames to remove jaggies

What do you expect when you're asking the computer to hallucinate a higher resolution render of the game for you?

>>716156365
>MSAA was simple enough
i'm not gonna write an essay here but let's just say that even if we were not in the age of temporalslop, MSAA would not be viable. it was already performance heavy and its heaviness only increases with graphical complexity

>>716156365
>assume what the next frame is going to look like by looking at previous frames to remove jaggies
That's to prevent ghosting not deal with aliasing.

>>716156706
i think you got got it the other way around. looking at previous frames and jittering the image is what lets the renderer know what the geometry should look like in many positions so it prevents aliasing and prevents jaggies. but the accumulation of this information is what leads to ghosting, usually because it takes too many samples from before so they carry over to the current frame a bit too much.
there's always some ghosting with temporal methods even if you use the right amount of samples, it ranges from unnoticeable >>716150191 to extreme like >>716102695 (OP) depending on resolution and the complexity of the renderer and sample count

>>716155202
Oh dear oh dear oh dear!

>>716155202
>Gollum
oh no no no

>>716102695 (OP)
Filtered

>>716121996
Dustborn

>>716156365
msaa is so bad it loses to basic camera movement. if the game has camera sway then it will shimmer all the time.

>>716150191
>baked liting
>no raytracing
>not on ue5
of course dlss will be good in such case. shame it wont fix aloy's looks thougheverbeit

>>716162554
>shame it wont fix aloy's looks thougheverbeit
aloy's face is one of the things that become worse the better your rendering is, because you see more of it

>>716106295
>le buy an ad duck