Thread 716114776

Keeping in mind all the talking and long cutscene after long cutscene.

>>716114776 (OP)
>Keeping in mind all the talking and long cutscene after long cutscene.
Around 4 hours of cutscenes in the whole game, and the game is around 50-60 hours long for an average playthrough. Try to be less disingenuous right on outset next time

you didn't play the game

>long cutscene after cutscene
Don't even you disingenuous nigger. The game is less than 5 hours of cutscenesn in a 60+ hour game.

>>716114854
>>716114858
Yes I did FAGGOTS, I'm at the beginning and I can't stand all the talking.

There's barely any talking outside of camp, and you have to go out of your way to even initiate that. I missed tons of dialogue in Act 1 because I never used the camp at all.

It's okay.

test

>>716114854
>>716114858
>>716114907
Yes I did play the game you stupid faggots I'm at the beginning.

>>716114776 (OP)
Haven't played it yet. I dunno if I should. Western games are kinda pretentious. Its in my Steam family share library I guess

>>716114776 (OP)
Haven't played, saw the trailer months ago, can't remember anything about it.
I think cast was all brown, so I'm not the target audience and hence I have no reason to play it.
Just by looking at it, combat seemed really uninteresting and whole setting and world unappealing.

>>716114776 (OP)
I think the fanbase is full of obnoxious twats and I have to wait at least 5 years before playing it so I can give it a fair shake.

This is one of those ADHDs that'll make an "afk build" for a game, and then when you look at it there's like three things you have to juggle and something you have to refresh every 25 seconds, isn't it?

Fun combat, but very odd difficulty curve.
Characters are mostly boring/uninteresting but there are some good moments with Gustave and Maelle specifically.
Overall story is weak. The family drama in a vacuum is pretty good, but the buildup to it being the primary conflict is executed quite poorly.
Music is good, though I wasn't overly fond of the tracks with lyrics (except Luminere's main theme).
Nice art direction, but actual in-game visuals range from good to kinda messy.

I'd give it 3/5, mainly because of the shortcomings in the writing.

ISLAM WON REPLY IF YOU AGREE

>>716114776 (OP)
Best RPG of the 9th generation
Best UE5 game

I didn’t play it because of turn based combat

Even Final Fantasy dropped the turn based bullshit, what the fuck were they thinking? I don’t care if it has the best story and the best characters. The gameplay loop is selecting some word so your character does “that thing”. You’re not doing it yourself, you’re telling the game to do it for you. It’s literally a step away from being a visual novel. Final Fantasy 6 was great but it’s been more than 30 years. We need to move away from this archaic mechanic, time to ditch it was 20+ years ago

>>716114776 (OP)
Played for a few hours and wasn't feeling it.

It appeals to the anti-japan crowd. Its a 7/10 game artificially elevated by critics to say, "see the west can make jrpgs too!"

>>716114975
So you admit you didn't play the game

>>716114776 (OP)
i liked it but I thought the story was going to be corny. it had the quintessential "super special girl" and lame plot twists "omg the bad guy is...our DAD!?!?!?!" and I was thinking to myself, there is no way they can make this story make sense I was waiting for the game to shit out some stupid explanation why evil!Maelle was a thing or what the Gommage was etc.

but then Act 2 concluded, and yeah they made everything click really well and from then on I look at the story/setting as extremely creative. the ending is probably the best vidya ending I've ever played. well done. it didn't feel like a modern game it felt like playing an old classic. I am happy a game like this became popular I figured modern audiences would reject a game like this.

>>716115090
in english, doc

>>716115684
No you retarded piece of shit. I'm past the prologue and even in that small sliver of the game THERE IS SO MUCH TALKING AND SO MANY CUTSCENES.

>>716115859
it feels like probably 80% of the content is moving around in the zones, there definitely is a lot of talking but the really big talking segments ie companion chats at the camps are 100% skippable. I never really got that feeling of GOW Ragnarok where you're RP walking in a straight line for 10 minutes straight the game felt adequately game-y

>>716115859
So what you keep saying is in fact that you have not played the game

>>716115063
>I think cast was all brown
lol dude what? that's one of the main reasons people are complaining about it, because it's 98% white, 1% Asian, and 1% other

>>716115859
you're a retard

>>716116008
I have launched the game and made it to the first act you little piece of shit. WHAT is your problem here. If a game already has this many cutscenes and talking in the start then it is all sizzle and no steak. Faggot.

>>716114776 (OP)
>Keeping in mind all the talking and long cutscene after long cutscene.

On the contrary, Expedition 33 is a game that understands brevity is the soul of wit, and keeps dialogue brief, typically with double entendres that you can only come to truly appreciate once you've completed the game.
Just one of the many reasons it'll rightfully win GotY.

>>716116109
no u are
>>716116181
All lies. How can a game be that good if it's filled with so much talking and cutscenes?

>>716116134
the story enhances the game, the prologue story segment could be considered necessary to establish the setting and stakes. if the setting isn't compelling you it might be an indication you won't enjoy the game, unless you really enjoy the turn-based combat

>>716116253
The combat is one of the best things about the game. everything else is putrid dogshit

>>716116134
I'm saying you have not played the game if you're in the prologue. Yes a game with a story is going to have a prologue, usually with characters who interact with words.

>>716116134
Word of advice if you're new to E33 discourse on /v/, avoid arguing with these people that make such objective claims with no substance. They either don't read books, are racist, or both. Quite literally the only arguments they can give are accusing you of not playing the game, not understanding it because low IQ, or calling you brown, most often it is a mix of the three. They hold E33 in the realm of high art because like previously stated, they likely don't read much and are hostile to any criticism valid or not. There is genuine discussion here, but when faced with such insanity your best bet is to just leave them alone to stew in their vitriol

>>716116442
Not everyone game has a prologue and I am past it now, but the prologue so far is a dire warning for how FUCKING SHITTY THE GAME IS GOING TO BE.

>>716116279
I think the idea of the gommage and the Paintress ticking clock is a very cool setting, with a lot of intrigue. and when I finished the game I had a pretty strong understanding of what was going on, stories with these really complex settings and plotlines can feel vague and random so it is kind of refreshing to have a story that is presented like this without holding my hand.

>>716116501
Not every* game
>>716116491
I thought the E33 shills were just a myth but yeah this is really bad.

>>716116501
Bro you're having an aneurysm, breathe nigga

>>716114975
nigger

>>716116246
>filled with so much talking and cutscenes?
It's not

>>716115090
No the combat isn't very complex. Every character has a unique mechanic but it's all easy to grasp.

>>716116501
>I have not played the game but here's what's wrong with it
Never change, /v/.

Bros I just played Mega Man 2 and it was nothing but WORDS WORDS WORDS like what the fuck?
Before you say I didn't play it YES I FUCKING PLAYED IT for twelve seconds and there was NOTHING BUT FUCKING WOOOOOOORDS

>>716115349
Negative IQ

>>716114776 (OP)
>low grade b8
Most of the cutscenes are at the beginning and end of each of the 3 acts. Definitely nothing close to the generic Sony movie games

>>716114776 (OP)
Good first attempt at making a big game. Feels underwhelming and uneven in many places but it's still amazing result for a relatively small studio with almost no experience.

>>716114776 (OP)
Its pretty much consensus that the game has a good amount of cutscenes without being purposely slow like modern final fantasy

5 hours of cutscene is actually on the low side, there are games with less than 20 hours of gameplay that have more cutscene than that

so yea, you should unninstall your tiktok asap

>>716115349
gr8 b8 m8. i r8 it 8/8.

>>716114776 (OP)
Maybe I can get some gameplay footage in this thread?

>>716116742
d00d i just played super mario world and there's SO MUCH TALKING WTF I WANT TO JUMP

>>716117106
gb2 twitch, zoomie

You only played through the prologue didn't you? That must've been tough for you, being brown and low IQ and undoubtedly smelly. But it's alright, you can go back to playing apex legends or whatever garbage your shit brain can handle

you are still seething about this game lmfao, this really hurt japan lovers, square enix please less waifus more serious business

>>716114776 (OP)
An inferior mario RPG knockoff that got astroturfed by the dev's dad who is a millionaire.
The game is a money laundering scheme
They are not indie. The dad paid for it.
No. It wasn't a small team of 30 frogs, they outsourced most of it to hundreds of Koreans

>>716117219
Why do you get so assblasted when literally anyone doubts your game's masterpiece qualities? Why are you seeing brown people all of a sudden? Have you taken your meds? Are you ok?

>>716114776 (OP)
I think it's cool and I wish lots more studios did this kind of thing if only so we could get more "regular" JRPGs out there. I don't like that if a new jepg is coming out, it's guaranteed atlus slop or ffslop

>>716116624
FAGGOT!
>>716116651
Yes it is I SAW IT MYSELF.
>>716116737
Go fuck yourself you gay fat retarded piece of dog shit. I played it, I'm on the first act now, there is too much talking and cutscenes, I hate this fucking game. I hate it so god damn much.
>>716117219
I'm white and I can sense a shitty game when I see it, I knew I shouldn't have bothered with this game you shill. Fucking shills always jerking off this game like it's the best thing since sliced bread.

>>716117145
I tried twitch, but all I see are a bunch of braindead zoomers just pressing the same button over and over

>>716114776 (OP)
GOTY

I just finished the new DK and it's 10 times better than this corpo slop.

>>716114776 (OP)
I have Square Enix hate fatigue.

>>716114854
>50-60 average playthrough
if you're absolutely retarded, I suppose.

>>716127061
This. Bananza is a masterpiece compared to this turd.

>>716127061
exactly my thoughts.

>>716114776 (OP)
I think it's super cool for the first 10 or so hours. After that it gets really samey.
IMO the story is super overrated, I couldn't give less of a fuck about the retarded family drama.

>>716127061
this

>>716127061
>>716127259
>>716127303
>>716127475
Are there really so many subhumans in here or just one guy on a holy war for Nintendo?

TRVTH NVKE

i like it, but moving around in their shitty maps is very gay. just feels like i'm actively wasting my time rather than exploring a foreign land. they couldn't even hit persona level, every map is just poorly designed with no minimap.

>>716114776 (OP)
GOTY

>>716114776 (OP)

I’m not sure why these frogs played Mario & Luigi and thought “yeah this would be better if the camera was up Luigi’s ass and the Koopas did a staggered Dark Souls boss combo instead of something readable”

Easily Goty but unfortunately the game got popular, so you will have like 50% of the people here that will shit on it no matter what even though this game is literally everything people here have been asking for for modern games.

>>716114776 (OP)
Second phase is fucking cancer on expert difficulty

>>716118001
Source?

>>716114975
>why read when you can smoke weeeeeeed

>>716114776 (OP)
>long cutscene after long cutscene
You didn't play the game.

>>716114776 (OP)
It's no masterpiece like Donkey Kong Bananza. But it's alright.

>>716114776 (OP)
Below average and boring. A game for people that have played FF, Persona and Elden Ring and want to pretend they're really into JRPGs and that this one somehow does all the good stuff JRPGs did in the PS1/2 days despite mostly doing the bad they stuff they did.

>>716128180
I just started Act 3, and I just don't see what everyone else is seeing in this game.

I mean, it's fine, but the characters are incredibly bland, the combat is trial and error nonsense, and the world is just so unappealing to explore. I don't know if it's the UE5 smear or the art style, or the fact that asset loading/pop-in is really bad. The plot is somehow both inane and boring, and I just didn't give a fuck about anything that was going on. I hated Esquie and his quirky deus ex machina bullshit. I hate the poorly explained logic with how the world works - Verso just fucking spawns a piano at camp, with no explanation or reaction from anyone. A comedy scene shows him cutting himself in half, again with no foretelling that he could do anything like that. The Lumina tech is just a cheap excuse to have characters spawn weapons and gear from thin air, and the 'gamey' grapple points. After defeating the Paintress, Ciel just pulls a flag from her ass. Oh, and the gestrals are reddit faggots.

I get the impression that the rave reviews are from normalfags that are unfamiliar with JRPGs - but I don't blame them or begrudge them. It's cool they love it, and I'm happy for Sandfall. I don't hate the game, and I still have to finish it, but I genuinely had more fun with FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth, so what the fuck do I know.

>>716134893
>characters are incredibly bland
You didn't play the game.
>combat is trial and error nonsense
You REALLY didn't play the game, God damn.

>>716118631
Shut up pajeet

>>716114776 (OP)
I used to hate voice acting in video games because all it contributed was meaningless chatter, they were talking but saying absolutely nothing worth hearing. Well this game actually changed my mind, the dialogue is well written and the 3d models act out emotions that give depth to the interactions, it tells a story worth experiencing, which is all too rare in video games.

It's my favorite game of all time.

>>716114776 (OP)
Cutscene are actually alright. BESIDE you can always skip them.

>>716114776 (OP)
it was flavor of the month paid bots and paid streamer game

looking at the game soberly the story shits itself after the first act and devolves into every shitty indie game clichee you can have and the combat might as well be simon says.

The only thing that saves it from being perceived as shit as the actual act of playing the game is are the visuals and music.

>>716135785
>You REALLY didn't play the game, God damn.
Not that guy but it is absolutely trial and error if you play on hard. I dropped the game not long after starting act 3 because everything, including random mobs, killed my guys in one hit and it was just obnoxious. You just had to figure out the parry timings through trial and error. Bloating enemy stats is the lamest way to do difficulty.

>>716114776 (OP)
>tranime fans: expedition 33 has long cutscenes
>also tranime fans:

>>716135785
he's right tho

>>716134893
Speaking as a person who also likes FF7 Rebirth, you have no right to be complaining about plot conveniences, lol.

>>716136817
to be fair to rebirth it is a better game in basically everything from characters to combat to enemies to bosses to enemy varity to towns and the plot at least isnt every indie game clichee you ever joked about.

>>716135915
You've obviously played next to nothing.

>>716138541
I'd love some good recommendations for well written games. To me most games have far too much exposition and far too little natural dialogue.

Maybe I should play more games like last of us, horizon etc. I never did get into those kind of games but maybe they're more similar in terms of good storytelling.

>>716133838
>>716124058
Why do you little shills say that so much? People are venting their frustrations with this game, people who played it longer than me, and all of you shills just say "you didn't play the game HURR DURR" dozens of times over.
Fucking retarded faggots. In your little minds, the game is so awesome that anyone who doesn't like it must have not played it. Pathetic shills.
>>716135861
Shut up jew.

>>716141225
read >>716116491

Good. Keep putting the shills in their place. These faggots are probably coming from Reddit.
>E33 is a masterpiece!
Unalive yourself please.

>>716138135
Combat: Tie
Narrative: E33
Voice Acting: Tie
Polish: Rebirth

E33 left a bigger impact on me because the subject matter was more mature and relatable.

>>716114776 (OP)
It's not like it's MGS4 or something. I think it's got a good balance of cutscenes and gameplay.

>>716114975
The beginnings of most RPGs are slow, anon.

>>716136473
Persona is genuinely a bad RPG that people give a free pass solely for the anime aesthetic and dating sim elements.

>>716114776 (OP)
It's ok. Artistic direction and music is great, writing is nice, gameplay is a dogshit base (JRPG) with a slight improvement slapped on it (parrying). In any other year it wouldn't be GOTY material but in 2025? Who knows.

Still laughing at a buddy who didn't get the ending and kept going on "muh forced choice, why can't she just go in the painting in moderation". Nigga what don't you understand about addiction?

>>716142361
>combat tie
>narrative e33

thats why no one takes you serious

>>716138135
rebirth combat is the most fun Ive had in gaming in a long long time. I wish we had more games like that. FF16 kinda ruins it by making it too simple

>>716114776 (OP)
Best game I've played in a long while

>>716142361
Rebirth combat is better and has more potential. E33 combat is just turn based with sekiro parry and Elden ring delayed attacks with some added team play in the form of buffs and setting up attacks. It’s turn based in its final stages of innovation while Rebirth combat is just beginning to get its foothold

It was good, but Act 3 is shit. They didn't even try to balance it and the patch they released just makes you edit the difficulty yourself so they don't have to

>>716144668
Just don't use Maelle

>>716144276
look i dont like e33 story, but i will take THAT over what ever the fuck shenanigans they were trying to do with ff7 remake and rebirth

>>716134893
>A comedy scene shows him cutting himself in half, again with no foretelling that he could do anything like that.
the whole "guise im immortal lol" thing didnt tip you off?

>>716144276
Combat should be Rebirth, but comparing narratives isnt really a point of contention. E33 feels it is wanting to be taken seriously as a piece of art while the FF7 remakes are made more for enjoyment and overall adventure and friend group vibes.

>>716118631
LMAO
now i kinda want a full play by play playthrough by you
fuck twitch lets pioneer text streaming

>>716134893
personally, yeah, i got the exactly same feeling, it’s an OK jrpg, but it appeals to the kind of people that want an adult persona, good for them i guess

Can someone explain to me why a bunch of racists have attached themselves to E33? Like I keep seeing the picture of Peter holding up the skin color chart with opinions of E33 next to them. Anytime someone has criticism they get accused of being brown or from a third world, even in this very thread. Like I haven't seen this with other games just this one.

>>716147525
The game is 99% white with 1 Asian female (honorary, which can be romanced by the straight white male protagonist) and all minorities are literally wiped from existence within the first 10 minutes.
Of course racists are going to think the almost straight white male makers of the game are throwing them a bone. It's gross.

>>716147525
>they get accused of being brown or from a third world
this is not even close to exclusive to E33 but considering how vastly white the cast is, it is clear that browns have an axe to grind when they shit out falsehoods like OP

>>716145839
NTA, but I was running a solo Verso and still one shot the final boss.

>>716144185
The addiction comparison is so bad to me. Addiction is destructive, it's guaranteed to make your life worse in the long run. Living in the canvas is nothing like that, it's just choosing a different life.

It's shit

>>716147525
It's goes both ways and it's just what happens on /v/ these days. I've seen plenty of people say that if you like this game you're brown too. Or ESL. It's just a pointless, low-effort insult. Maybe it offends people who are actually brown but whenever someone accuses me of such a thing I just think they're retarded.

>>716149501
Verso is the antagonist.

>>716114776 (OP)
I did not play it because I have zero interest in it and therefore no opinion

>>716114776 (OP)
Had a great time. It’s not on par with the 2nd coming of Christ or anything, but a solid 8/10 all the same. Third act felt sloppy and rushed, somewhat invalidating the first act, but whatever.
Maelle cheese ruins any chance of wanting to replay it.
Random thoughts:
Sciele’s ass > Lune
Weird seeing globes in a few spots, I guess that’s the UE asset reuse?


In reality the game is in between the “fotm slop” and “best game ever!” Opinions. Its a good game.

>>716114776 (OP)
I think it is the videogame of all time.
There isn't a single cutscene in this game where I didn't put down the controler, get up from my chair and start clapping while screaming "KINO! KINO! KINOOOOOOOO!"
And yes, Maelle's ending is the morally correct choice.

>>716150210
Yeah kinda the same, it doesn't look very appealing.

I enjoyed it. I just wish that it had more of a replayability factor. I'd love to see the same battle system but with more customization options for the characters. Also, I don't know what they were thinking with Stendhal.

>>716149501
gross, unnecessary and problematic

>>716150437
>Maelle's ending is the morally correct choice
>enslaving your brother's soul to procedurally generate a playbox because you can't make real friends
>morally correct

>>716114776 (OP)
I played it on launch and really really liked it and listened to the ost every day, but once I 100%'d it and some time had passed, I cooled down a lot and don't think about it that much anymore. I wish the difficulty was better balanced, it's such a shame that it starts challenging but then gets completely crushed under the weight of its own mechanics and becomes a complete faceroll even on the hardest difficulty and you have to sandbag yourself to have any fun. If stayed challenging all the way through, I could see myself doing multiple runs and trying different builds and stuff, but as it stands, it doesn't really matter, all builds are OP, you pretty much have to do a no lumina parry only run to have any challenge, and that's boring.

>>716151458
You didn't understand the game, try again.

>>716114776 (OP)
>Keeping in mind all the talking and long cutscene after long cutscene.
The game is literally 90% gameplay, 10% dialogues.

>movie-game, America
:(
>movie-game, France
:D

>>716151083
based monke

>>716114975
Ah, so you're the reason devs started making games with the "prologue is a super-dynamic fragment from the middle, only after that goes back to the actual beginning" structure back in the 2010s.
I thought those "people with ADHD who get bored of games in 5 minutes" were a meme.

>>716151458
Painted Verso is not real Verso's soul, that's the faceless boy. This is why Japanese games like Persona 5 explain everything 10 times, because zoomers can't pay fucking attention.

It is a very well made game objectively, but people who say it’s the best JRPG ever haven’t played a lot of JRPGs.

I like that the aesthetic is more European rather than a generic anime look, but I can’t deny that I feel as though bias against the weeb aesthetic is part of why the game was such a mega-hit.

>>716115349
The story is shit anyway.

>>716151464
>it's such a shame that it starts challenging but then gets completely crushed under the weight of its own mechanics and becomes a complete faceroll even on the hardest difficulty and you have to sandbag yourself to have any fun
There are a lot of questionable balance choices they made that really hamper the challenge and fun of multiple playthroughs. For example, why did they give access to Maelle's best weapon at such an early point in the game? Giving Maelle/Verso the ability to reach a 200% damage multiplier baked in already makes them scale to a retarded degree in act 3 compared to the rest of the cast. But to give her the ability to START in her 200% stance at the start of any battle by the first village? Not only does it make her stance mechanic feel superfluous in anything but the hardest boss battles, but it also just makes you sad every time you find a new Maelle weapon and you simply can't find a good use for it. I'm not sure how such a decision made it through playtesting.

>>716151896
Name a better JRPG, and not some nostalgia slop like Chrono Trigger. Name a modern game with good graphics and an actual narrative with cutscenes and voice acting.

>>716114975
>UGH SKIP SKIP SKIP SKIP BOOOORING
>WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THIS GAME IS GOOD!? UGH.

Go to hell, you stupid piece of shit.

>>716151458
I’m kind of 50/50 on which ending I think is “best” there definitely is a compelling reason for Maelle’s, and it’s mostly because the people inside the Canvas very clearly have free will and wiping them out does kind of have an icky feeling to it. Choosing to save the Canvas could be considered honouring the efforts and sacrifices of the Expeditions, and Lune seems pissed that all their efforts led to their deletion she is staring daggers at Verso. And the game kind of glosses over how Maelle spent like 16 years in the Canvas, from a baby to a teenager, it’s kind of unreasonable to just be like Ok say goodbye to the family you’ve spent half your lifetime with; if she had a choice with Renoir and Gustave she chose Gustave, Renoir never showed much affection to her she wasn’t even sure if he liked her until near the end of the story.

>>716114776 (OP)
I thought act II was the ending, fuck me. Even cried after the journal shit. I was convinced it was shit but then it showed it's an absolute kino

>>716147525
Pro-tip: The most racist people on 4channel and Twitter are all brown people.

>>716152043
>why did they give access to Maelle's best weapon at such an early point in the game?
Medallum? It's only "the best" if you're running another braindead 1 turn KO build, because the sword is useless from turn 2 onwards. Jarum is her actual best weapon (switch to purple stance on any counter) and it can be picked up at the start of Act 2. And then Lithum is the same thing but better, but it's in Act 3.

>>716151892
That’s probably who anon was talking about, the last remnant of Verso’s soul does not want to paint anymore he wants isnt to end. Maelle is making both Versos suffer by continuing the Canvas.

>>716114776 (OP)
My favorite game of the last decade, maybe longer. Absolute kino.

>>716151884
>prologue is a super-dynamic fragment from the middle, only after that goes back to the actual beginning
NTA but that sounds more like gen x and millennial writers who cannot pull off an 'in media res' start properly.

The OST is stuck in my head for 2 month at this point. The last time a game had this effect on me was with automata

>>716152707
It's "in mediaS res", hate when people misspell it.
Anyway, Dragon Age II, which is a boomer game, did this dynamic prologue thing where you start with an OP character fighting tons of enemies, but then the narrator goes "alright yeah that didn't actually happen" and then the real game starts with all the required worldbuilding and cutscenes.

>>716152505
>Jarum is her actual best weapon
Absolutely. As long as you git moderately gud, you can enjoy constant virtuose.

>>716114776 (OP)
It's great.

>>716133296
one shotted her on expert
we're built different

>>716153153
Yes you're built like someone who did not beat the game. If you used one-shot tactics, you haven't even seen the title screen.

>>716114854
>50-60 hours long for an average playthrough.
30-40

>>716153394
I did not use stendhall. I did not one shot any bosses.
Renoir second try.
Paintress first.
Simon third.

>>716114776 (OP)
One of the best I've ever played. Went in thinking I'd hate it because of all the glazing. Turned into one of my all time top 3. Genuinely loved it from start to finish.

>>716152839
>hehe, my ironic counter-choice that I don't actually like
>what a heckin meemee hehehehehe

People who "ironically" shill this socially inept retard's game should be flogged in a public square. Yick.

>>716116534
Ah yes, fun is for idiots, okay. Adding more interaction to an rpg is sooo stupid. Thank God we have this retard and his meme to let us know

>>716153546
Welcome to the jrpg genre.

>>716153960
I tried a few and they were all filled with gay shit. The last I tried was the FF7 remake and that was absolutely painful to ""play"". Quit very early on.

>>716114776 (OP)
>Keeping in mind all the talking and long cutscene after long cutscene
I am.

>>716154059
Based zoomie dumping on the demake

>>716154059
>FF7 remake was combat was too diffcult to understand

no wonder you love e33 simon says simulator

>>716154465
FF7 had combat? I thought it was just walk here watch cutscene, then walk there watch cutscene, then watch the following cutscene. I've never been so bored "playing" a game.

how many of you downloaded the 2x parry window mod. Be honest

>>716154465
>simon says simulator
So in FF7R you don't have to react to your enemy's actions? How does that work? Enemies don't attack at all and you just hit them? Or there is no way to block/evade/parry attacks and you just get hit every time, like in normal turn-based JRPGs?
Asking seriously, by the way. I want to play FF7R, but I'm not going to before the whole thing is out, and I don't want trailers, because I don't want spoilers (aside from what I already know from the original 7).

>>716154913
I wouldn't get any dopamine if I got a parry like that

>>716154913
I've never downloaded any mods for any games

>>716116534
>when the game expects more than pressing the "attack" command ;__;

>>716114776 (OP)
This isn't a game for teenagers anyway, move on and come back when you are a grown up

>>716114776 (OP)
I skipped it. Think of all the things /v/ shills, and you know they're all shit:
>AMD
>linux
>HiFi Rush
>AC Shadows
>E33
>gachas
>Korean games
>Japanese games
>Chinese games
>European games
>Canadian games

>>716115349
If it was nt turn based it would just be elden ring.

do the fights get better after this? because this shit was fucking kino, and if it keeps up like this then its an easy GOTY

>>716114776 (OP)
>and long cutscene after long cutscene
Aside from the camp conversations, there aren't really any back to back cutscenes in the game. And the camp conversations are comparably short at that.
There are a lot of cutscenes in the game, yes. But they are spread apart a fair bit.

>>716151896
cant stand anime. wish this site would grow out of it.

>>716159802
it peaks here
https://youtu.be/7hVavvVmj40?list=RD7hVavvVmj40&t=169

>>716159802
ya

>>716114975
this is you

>>716160423
Paintress is more kino visually when you can see Lumiere and therefore they can see you fight her

>>716151896
Give me 3 really good jrpg's. I'm not asking to say they're worse, I just want more games with good stories.

>>716160849
Metaphor (actual masterpiece), Persona 5 and Octopath Traveler

>>716154465
FF7 Remake and rebirth comabt sucks, its sucks as action rpg comapred to YS or Tale of and it sucks as trying to eb turn base compared with xenoblade, also the whole materia system is ASS

>>716160849
Persona 3
Astlibra
Yakuza 7
SMT VV or IV

they plot may not be as good, but personally i liked their history’s

>>716160849
>>716161369
i forgot

YS 8 my belvoed

>>716153153
I beat her right after I posted that lol. Had to reassign my pictos. Didnt put much thought into them until this point.

>>716114776 (OP)
I hate most modern games, I don't find them appealing or have the motivation to play them.
When I played Exp 33 it was all I could think about, even when not playing the game until and after I had completed the game.
That alone makes it stand above what else is available, there has only been one game with a story experience that was as memorable to me in recent years.

>>716161006
>>716161369
>>716161623
Thanks, I'll check these out.

oh shit, Ozzy Osbourne has died today

>>716161859
Same for me, I was pretty much not playing games anymore because of contant disappointments. After finishing it I'm back to constant disappointments.

I can't parry fo shit. Or dodge. It's all bullshit delayed attacks followed by 0.0000001s instant hit.

>>716114776 (OP)
started it, didn't like to combat system. I don't want to memoritze hundreds of animations to parry. Would have another look if they add a parry/dodge indicator like they do for jumping

I haven't played it but I dislike the artstyle and the snooty pretentious title, looks like a game taylor made for midwits and journalists

>>716161964
I know exactly what you mean, when I hit Act 3 I was dragging it out as far as I could because I knew once it was over it would be back to disappointing games.
I had a mild sort of depression after the game.

>>716160849
I played FFX earlier this month and really enjoyed it

>>716159802
No. I am near the end, maybe the final boss will disprove me, but no, the Duelist is the best boss in the entire game. The game at times has the making of a modern classic but then it will have you go through a lot of mediocrity so it ends up being just decent game and nothing more.

I would like to wisely point out that it is not worth arguing with people who defend the gameplay of FF7Rebirth in this thread.
Those are people who only finished FF7R in normal mode, where you don't actually engage with the gameplay, because you can just win by doing whatever and spamming base attacks and base skills with no regards to strategy. They literally used 5% of the mechanics, go boom boom boom on the enemy, and feel happy about their win.
But anyone who has attempted the hardest challenges of FF7R where you actually HAVE to engage with every gameplay mechanics in order to win (materia selection, parry, dodge, special character skills, ATB management, MP management, character positioning, summoning, etc.) knows that the gameplay of that game is frustrating and the opposite of having a good time.

>>716162526
I thought you were gonna say the game is much better at harder difficulty, not even worse.

>>716162526
I think you are just ass at games. Rebirth has valid criticisms but combat is almost always a point of positivity.

Who is the REAL main character?

>>716162668
I wish that was the case but no, FF7R is more fun the least you engage with its gameplay.
At least half the people who completed hard mode and VR did so by strictly following a guide on team composition, on how to build the characters and on which actions to take during every encounter. And that's understandable, because anyone with a sane mind would be appaled by those challenges and go "yeah, i'm not gonna bother with this shit, time to go read a guide".
So why should we argue with people who defend the gameplay of FF7R when 90% of players used 5% of the gameplay during their run, and when the few completionists followed an online guide on how to cheese the hardest challenges?

Meanwhile, most of E33's playerbase engaged with all its mechanics, namely managing the enemy attacks by parrying or dodging and selecting their favorite lumina, skills and weapon. When they talk about the gameplay of E33, they know what they're talking about, they experienced it in its entirety, unlike FF7Rcucks who lost GOTY.

>>716162224
How can someone not like the Axons, very uniquely designed and fun. The island with all the faces looks so striking. The paintress and the whole final level feels so cathartic and epic, the ending itself is beautifully realized. The only problem is if you meta game your specs you’re just one shotting everything and that’s a pretty major downside

>>716114776 (OP)
Never heard of it. Looks chinese, so it's shit.

>>716164525
Verso

>>716115484
>Anti-Japan
The devs made this as a love letter to classic JRPGs, you absolute retard!
Square Enix got so shook by the game's success on that small budget that they're reworking their future AAA games to go back to proper turn-based.

Can't really play after the reveal. The "save the world" plot turned into "help 2 crazy bitches save a Runescape server their dead relative used to play on" and all I feel is disgust

>>716114776 (OP)
I loved it. Platinumed it in like 2 weeks.

The new laptop I bought came with a free month of PC goypass so I might play it again when I'm done with my current game.

>>716165850
It astonishes me how dumb you are.

>>716166106
yes, idiots are easily astonished

>>716166295
>no u!
You can't even think of an insult, you have to piggyback.
The plot never changes. It's not a dream.

>>716114854
fpbp.
even when you add dialogue & things you can interact with it adds up to 7 hours. which is super short when you consider modern day gaymes have 12-20 hours of bloated cutscenes.

>>716165272
>hard mode is.......le hard?
>people look up strategies for......le difficult challenges?

>>716166840
there is a difference between a game being difficult and having to mix-max the system or get one shot, smt vv hard mode , YS9 nightmare mode and E33 hard mode are games where hard mode is done right.

>>716166672
no, it's just a meaningless sandbox, not a real world. Real world has Painters and Writers, this has crazy suicidal toys and painted people. Maelle is just a fucking coward, her mother is a demented bitch, Verso is dead and the Canvas must burn. Now, I know it's one of the endings, but I won't bother going through the motions of cleaning the rest of the map just to get to it.

>>716167376
>not a real world
You're genuinely retarded anon. Either it was never a real world because it's in a fucking videogame
or
It's just as real as when you started. Just because there is a confirmed real God doesn't make God's creations any less "real."

>>716133296
renoir turned out to be disappointingly easier by comparison. she has a ton of attacks that are really difficult to time in phase 1&2, while renoir had a simple moveset, besides those combo attacks where he swipes left&right. act 3 is hard carried by the exploration, side stories & the ending cuz the main story is neglected.

>>716167376
The characters inside the painted world express freewill, individual desires, etc. and that’s what makes it so tragic. The power of painting is very insidious, it created all these people in a doomed reality they clearly aren’t just Sims going through the motions they’re as real spiritually to anyone in the real world. This is why Renoir responds to them with respect, he apologizes to painted Verso because he knows how unfair it is. It’s a very interesting setting. Maelle’s perspective isn’t nearly as important, but she was literally there for an entire life from a baby to a teenager so it’s not just some delusional thing she developed real familiar bonds that are way more intimate and loving than her real ones. And another huge aspect is how she’s disabled in the real world, she can’t express how she wants to be called Maelle she’s just going through the motions with a cold family.

>>716167983
spot on until the end
>she can’t express how she wants to be called Maelle she’s just going through the motions with a cold family.
This is nonsense. We directly see that both her father and her sister love her. Her sister is already able to understand her newfound communication that's only grunts and groans. Pretending like she can't just write to communicate complex thoughts is also dumb. Like exactly as dumb as Quiet in MGSV.

>>716165479
You're right, I actually liked Visages quite a bit. The visuals were incredible in the entire level, not just the boss, but I dont know, maybe I prefer the pacing of humanoid bosses that wield swords. The cutscene preceding the Duelist combined with the music was also epic af so it probably got me in the mood.
On the paintress though, I actually found the boss arena to be rather underwhelming. The place where you have a mock fight with her at the start looked way more fitting and climactic.

>>716167197
E33 was so piss easy it was a meme for a month getting almost a billion damage that the devs had to just let the players select their own difficulty and nerf certain weapons because everyone was picking the best builds. If FF7 rebirth or any other game allowed you to just change whatever you wanted to suit your optimal difficulty needs of course no one would have a problem with it

>>716167983
Its a computer simulation with highly advanced AI that they are considered human, and Alicia wants to stay and play games forever

>>716168558
>>716167812

>>716167983
Every painted family memory (except cuckoir) wanted to off themselves though

>>716167983
that's why I said she's a coward. She knows that the real (real real!) world will have her suffer, so he runs to the Canvas. Ah, sure, let's mourn poor Verso some more! It's not that I just want to be a God here with my adventures and family. Yes, it's compelling. But to what end? Shell either end up as insane as her mother, die IRL or stop caring. In any - ANY case - the canvas dies shortly after. Nice "real" world you have here - adhering the the whims of a single person. Here's a hint - cause she's real, and the world is not. You and the denizens of the Canvas can consider their existence genuine, but then a person can be effortlessly mulched into red leaves and then reconstituted from the thin air, just cause the local child-god feels lonely without them, they're not really real. They're nothing but toys. Ciel's husband wasn't even gommaged - he drowned like 4 years ago. Don't worry ) Well bring him back ) Just as real as before )

The Frenchies owe me a slut gypsy farmer gf

Absolute bullshit trial and error game.

>>716169325
So if there's a god, you're not real?

>>716114776 (OP)
It’s good. Hate the fanbase tho

>>716160523
What a gay retarded comic, fuck you.
>>716152083
Go fuck yourself you little piece of shit, the cutscenes are long, redundant and too frequent.

>>716150210
You should try it at least, its a huge game, your take on it will be interesting!

>>716169325
>>716169602
Both of your arguments are all going according to the devs plan. They dont give a shit about the story, thats why it has nothing to say. They just want people to talk about it on forums like this and Reddit. They perfectly crafted everything to be vague, full of moral ambiguity and ending on forced decisions to generate the most amount of discussion possible, and any criticisms or looking for some ending message can be waived as just an interpretation. There is nothing to be derived from this story, just endless interpretation without ever coming to a conclusion

>>716168558'
>magic bullshit time dilating canvas running on authors soul fragment in 1905
>...
>Its a computer simulation with highly advanced AI

>>716169602
If there's only one universe which was created by God with me being a part of it, i'm real. Because there's no "higher" universe in which gods sit and lmaoing at our lives, me and God are basically on the same level of reality. It's obviously not the case for the game.

>>716114776 (OP)
don't like how it looks and feels, colors too washed out and somehow feels like a tech demo more like a game

>>716170501
>If there's only one universe which was created by God with me being a part of it, i'm real.
That's not how any religion works at all.
God is real. He made our reality from nothing. He can turn it off on a whim. He is sitting outside our reality jerking off/meticulously interfering with people's lives/watching it like a sitcom.
Are you real? If yes, everyone in the canvas is real.
If no, you should probably jump off a bridge because you're not real and nothing matters.

>>716170493
Dont take it literally, just metaphorically they are both similar. With literacy comprehension skills like that no wonder you think E33 is high literature

>>716170561
it would have been a classic with anime artstyle

>>716171027
>soul magic is just like computer simulation

WHERE ARE MY TRANIME WAIFUS WITH BOOBS AND CHILDREN FACES? CAN'T STAND THIS SERIOUS KINO

>>716171308
I give up, no argument or anything, bye

>>716171104
don't have to be anime but could take a lot of aesthetic inspiration from PS1 era JRPGs, there's a reason even Expedition 33 devs state that games like Final Fantasy 8 are their favourite games ever. Those games had some out of the world presentation and world building. Yet when it comes to their own game they went with the most generic Unreal Engine artstyle

https://youtu.be/YY9QzQdRMbA

>outside our reality
bullshit. He's in Heaven, which is a part of the reality, the higher plane but still a part of our existence. Consider it a higher floor of the same building - the floor you can't get on while you're alive. There's no other reality He can hop to, because there's NOTHING else. The reality is one, and, therefore, ~real~

>>716171313
>>716171104
this which is really sad and why we can't have nice things. arrested developmental faggots

>>716169751
Maelle is a minor. Her brain is undeveloped or something

>>716171521
brochacho dont act like E33 unreal asset flips is some gem that needs to stay. Gustave, Verso, and Renoir look like Pokemon evolutions of each other and even Gustave's ex girlfriend and sister look the exact same

>>716171425
Anon what in the fuck are you talking about?

>>716171415
>Yet when it comes to their own game they went with the most generic Unreal Engine artstyle
You're right. If only it was generic anime slop style #98073 then we might have a genuine classic on our hands.

>>716171830
>Gustave's ex girlfriend and sister look the exact same
cant blame the man for having a preference

>>716114776 (OP)
fucking sucked, I was looking for 4 niggas in a row, instead I got 3 niggas in a row
returned immediately

>>716171425
>which is a part of the reality
Not even a little bit
>Consider it a higher floor of the same building - the floor you can't get on while you're alive
consider it a painting on a canvas
>There's no other reality He can hop to, because there's NOTHING else
There's as much else as he wants there to be. He is omnipotent. He made everything from nothing and put it on his canv- his garage. He can make as many other realities as he wants.
I knew from the very first post you were retarded.

>>716172042
Ive lost the anon I was supposed to answer, and, as such, my place in life.

Anyway, cool thread, gonna bail, it was real guys (unlike the Canvas)

>>716172069
your argument is disingenious because you very well know that PS1 era JRPGS had a particular aesthetic very different to Genshin/Tales/Atelier crap that's everywhere now

>>716172334
prove to me there's other reality. You can't.
Yet we know there another reality in the game's world - we saw it. It's proven. Ergo, our situations are completely different, and you're trying to equate them makes you equally as retarded.
Now what?

>>716172625
You're really incapable of abstract thought. Like a nigger. Sad!

Did I miss something or did they only spend 2 lines on the painters vs writers war?

>>716172752
I accept your concession, painted-scum. Return to non-existence.

>>716172934
They dont explain shit. They want the player to figure things out through subtext so they can pretend they are real authors

>>716114776 (OP)
I personally thought it’s a really shit game.
found the dialogue truly unbearable and I liked none of the characters.
combat is a mindfuck as to why its praised since the parry mechanic completely nullifies any true rpg mechanic.
graphics is your standard modern unreal engine brown and bloom slop.
overall I would not recommend this faggot game made faggots for faggots.

>>716173897
oh look the nigger metaphor shill is back again!
seems like you still love your 'faggot' word you just learned between 2 goat fucking sessions

>>716174045
?
op asked for the opinion of others and I gave mine. why so salty?
funny how you are in every thread defending this faggot game while calling everyone a le jeet, yet you think me hoping in a thread every now and then to
shit on this faggot game makes me the obsessed one.

>>716172934
Writers is sequelbait

>>716174249
stop lying rasheet you're literally in every e33 thread with your third world faggot lingo
it's ok just change your writing style next time niggerino

>>716174376
bro youre defending a game with netflix tier faggot writing made on unreal engine slop.
you should be ashamed man, you are literally a cancer upon vidya…and the world as a whole.

>>716114854
Never buying your parry slop

>>716174497
@grok please translate I don't read niglang

>>716114854
>>716114858
>>716114907
>>716114991

Most obviously samefag
Never getting it E33 schitzo

>>716174608
Im am sure you understood just fine, but youre a witless nigger faggot so we’ll leave at that.
surprised you didnt call me a jeet yet.

Wow I haven't seen an OP get this ass blasted in a long time damn. Good work I guess? As for you OP, if you didn't want cut scenes and dialogue then why did you start a fucking RPG?

>>716153153
How is it possible to one-shot her? You are damage capped until you beat her and I don't know of any multi-hit move that hits enough times to make that possible.

>>716159802
yes

>>716168394
You'll like the capstone boss then (Simon). He's post-game and significantly harder than any other boss in the game.

I really didn't care about Gustave and felt nothing about the end of chapter one.

>>716114776 (OP)
The gameplay and presentation is peak, but the characters and story are mid.
The whole Gustave incident was done poorly and I felt no emotion, and the twist was predictable.
I've cried more at single anime episodes this season.

>>716176025
>Although severe psychopathy affects just about 1% of people, some research suggests that close to 30% of us have some level of psychopathic traits
happens

>>716176912
>mid
>peak
>tranime
you sound like a zoomer?

Gustave should have lasted till the end of Act 2, which would have allowed them to flesh out the relationships between the characters, especially Verso, better, then there could have been an emotional "passing the torch" moment between him and Gustave.
As it was, it was literally "lol Gustave is dead ur this random new guy Verso now" which had zero impact.
Very poor writing.

>>716176912
the story felt really creative and fresh to me, it is really interesting thinking about the setting and how just sad it is that these characters are fighting tooth and nail to save a fantasy world that can never truly be saved and it starts to make you wonder if it even should be saved. it feels like every story is derivative or a sequel or whatever this felt so refreshing

>>716177129
Im a 40 year old virgin manchild, thank you very much.

>>716177331
Lmao it's literally FFX

Why didn't Sciel fully embrace Verso in his ending?

>>716177420
i wish

>>716177567
she did, her and monoco were on his side

>>716177271
they wanted their characters to be as beloved as the FF7 cast without having to work for it. Instead of having the player grow with the characters it's non stop misery porn and then every now and then a scene of them laughing or playing the piano. It's the devs saying, look how miserable they are, buuuut they are still human, dont you just want to go on Reddit and say how lovely they are?

>>716177753
Final Fantasy X was so fucking good, holy shit, I cry ever tiem
>Tfw To Zanarkand starts playing

>>716114776 (OP)
Really like the game and it's my GOTY so far (but I've played very few 2025 games), and deserves best soundtrack awards, but unless you deliberately avoid some enemies and make sure to take damage during each encounter so you don't get 20% more exp, just playing naturally will leave you feeling like you're broken the game. Not about to reinstall the game to check, but at level 65 or so, I had around 40 unspent points to spend on skills for every character because you don't need them to be completely OP.
They recently added an option to increase enemy health, but I think they really need an option to disable the 20% bonus exp for not taking damage at the very least, and maybe to reduce earned exp overall. Also nerf Maelle's Peree and Momentum Strike which do absurdly over-the-top damage for how easy they are to make use of.
I use a mod that shows each area's expected level range and by the time I was fighting the Axons, I was 5-10 levels over the high end of their level range.

>>716178050
FFX was pearless.

>>716114776 (OP)
goty

>>716114776 (OP)
Characters are gay and uninteresting.

>>716178058
Idk I kind of like being able to break a game like this, it triggers the dopamine in my brain real good
Then again I've never lived a coddled life so I don't seek challenge and validation from my recreational activities

>>716178348
damn bro your a badass

>>716177826
She wouldn't take his hand

>>716178419
No?
I'm a loser who enjoys video games(not too hard) and anime(not too deep).

Why do people give a shit about the prologue?

>>716177420
what is the similarities

Real Renoir is literally a cuck.

>>716178348
I'm not saying I need to beeat Ninja Gaiden at the highest difficulty to feel good or whatever, or that I want to feel like a badass. The game is simply too easy, and that's coming from someone who's shit at games. No matter the genre, if a game is TOO easy it's hardly any different from just watching cutscenes which are disrupted by the easily blitzed gameplay, rather than engaging, challenging gameplay where cutscenes progress the story and give you a chance to take a break from the hard-but-fair combat.
I don't have a problem with being able to break a game's combat, but my point is that it's broken by simply playing naturally.
For the record, I'm still shit at parrying -- mostly vs bosses since you don't have so much time to learn their timings -- so I can't really play on hard since they do so much damage. That's why I wish normal difficulty wasn't such a joke.

did verso himself summon the final gommage here?

>>716179327
the paintress could no longer hold the real Renoir imprisoned so he broke out and started gommaging everything, Verso knew it was coming he wanted the painting to end

act3 is just a cutscene and the final boss fight?

>>716179571
yes kind of. in regards to story content, you also get a companion quests. but the chunk of act 3 is just how you get flying which opens up a ton of different areas, a few of them are optional but very story-relevant with full cutscenes and ties up big plot threads the story left dangling like origins of the nevrons or painted alicia/third axon.

>>716179571
It has a gorillion side-areas but plotwise yeah

>>716179571
the fact is all the world of e33 becomes pointless after the revelation of act 3. you know everything is fake, only maelle is real

>>716114776 (OP)
It’s like a cool drink of water in the middle of the Sahara

My game of the year, easily.
>t. game enjoyer

>>716180978
Its water in a sea of shit

>>716178012
What is it with FF7fags seething about this game?
Is it because FF7shitbirth won zero relevant game awards and they're mad that E33 will win GOTY by a landslide and stand proudly as the face of the JRPG genre?

But I'm willing to entertain you FF7fag, and most importantly enlighten you.
Nobody gives a shit about Aerith's death or any of the FF7 main cast. The average player cannot take those characters seriously because of how ridiculous the story is. Does Red XIII ever say something interesting? Tell me about Cid Highwind, what is his contribution to the narrative and the dynamic of the party? Is Vincent anything more than a cool character design?

Meanwhile, everybody LOVES everything about Gustave and want MORE Gustave. What makes his death so gripping and tragic is the fact that it happened so early, with no warning, before he could reach his full potential and achieve anything meaningful. For his death to be so impactful for the player, it had to happen this way. Aerith's death is less of a tragedy since it was a step that lead to the lifestream saving the planet in the end, she's FF7 Jesus, her death allowed her to reach new heights and the full potential of her character. Did anybody finish FF7 desperately wishing Aerith could have had more moments with the rest of party? I don't think so, but for Gustave hell yeah people did.

>>716180793
>you know everything is fake
Not how it works. Painters are basically the gods for the people in the worlds they paint. Like, if we could prove the existence of God, and he created the world, that wouldn't mean nothing matters anymore. Just because their world was created by someone rather than a bunch of space stuff clumping together (I didn't pay attention in astronomy ok), that doesn't make it meaningless.

>>716159802

As long as you don't overlevel you still have 6 kino fights left.

>>716114776 (OP)
I couldn't stand it.

>>716114776 (OP)
gnostic/masonic garbage

>>716181287
>Nobody gives a shit about Aerith's death or any of the FF7 main cast
cope there was a thread this very day about her death
>Tell me about Cid Highwind, what is his contribution to the narrative and the dynamic of the party
He flies the ship that lets them get to the northern crater? His story in rocket town adds to the world lore and Shinras history. Now tell me how Lune or Sciel mattered at all.
>Meanwhile, everybody LOVES everything about Gustave and want MORE Gustave
>>716176025
>>716176912
>What makes his death so gripping and tragic is the fact that it happened so early, with no warning, before he could reach his full potential and achieve anything meaningful
correct, he never reached his full potential and did not achieve anything meaningful.
>Did anybody finish FF7 desperately wishing Aerith could have had more moments with the rest of party?
Yes, a lot of people did

>>716182620
Lune and Sciel have pretty well developed personalities and a few good scenes at camp, like Sciel confronting Esquie, but their role in the narrative is basically it was just necessary to have more characters around so the player hopefully feels more attached to Lumiere. The game tries to try the individual characters to the Axons but it was pretty underdeveloped.

I'm not that anon I never played FF7, I want to why not, but I feel like 90% of the time when these kind of comparisons happen the real edge a game like FF7 has is...it's older and people are nostalgic about it. Is it as creative, nuanced, interesting as Expedition 33? If Expedition 33 was the older game / FF7 newer, would FF7 really be as popular as E33? Well you have to wonder. And I wonder if there are actual similarities that isn't "it's good" and "character died and that made another character sad :("

>>716114975
>saarr im at the very beginning
>but i swear i did play it saaaar
i love this board so much sometimes. never ending lolcow content

A lot of lower half ITT.

>>716184195
third worlders can never understand the hyperborean desire to go on a grand adventure with your friends to find meaning

>>716184195
This image is a double edged sword because it implies the other half is regarding a toy (video games are toys) as high art

>>716183795
I see you havent stopped calling everyone a jeet yet. do you get paid to defend this faggot game made by faggots for tasteless nigger faggots? nah you do it for free.

>>716184404
that was my first post ITT and i rarely ever come to these threads. its very clear that the person i was replying to is an indian based on how they type and the way they think. If people dont like the game, thats fine, but coming in here and complaining about something when you admit you are just at the very fucking beginning and trying to come off as if you know how the whole game is going to go is just disingenous as fuck. You know, i know it, calling me a shill wont change the fact that i genuinely enjoy the game and a lot of other people do too. You dont need to enjoy the game. Nobody cares if you do.

>>716165838
>The devs made this as a love letter to classic JRPGs, you absolute retard!
Obviously not seeing how their gaggle of retarded fans do nothing but shit all over the games the devs "love".

>>716183687
>Is it as creative
no
>nuanced
no
>interesting
yes
>And I wonder if there are actual similarities
in the sense that they're top notch JRPGs with quality presentation, effort put into every corner, that the people who made it cared about what they were making, and that they're the same genre they're similar.
In terms of story no they're not similar at all.
FF7 is dated as fuck though and the reality is E33 is just final fantasy if final fantasy didn't fall of the rails.
That's why people love it so much.

>>716184689
sure faggot, I believe you lmao.

>>716185025
i guess its a good thing that your belief is not required or needed by anyone

>>716183795
>>716184689
You are such an idiot. I'm not indian and yes I have played the game. I am on Act II now and I still think there is too much talking and cutscenes even THOUGH it has declined a bit from the prologue. It is so outrageous how you Expedition fans will freak out when people point out the flaws in this wannabe masterpiece.

>>716114776 (OP)
Its ubislop

>>716185220
you expect me to believe that in the time that this thread has been up, you have progressed from the prologue all the way to act 2? even if you played literally all night thats just not possible. you are just most likely lying about how far you have gotten because you got caught talking out of your ass. lets see your team, lets see your build, talk about the characters, talk about whats going on in the story, lets see your play time. otherwise there is just no reason to believe you are even trying to engage with the game in an honest way or even playing it to begin with.

>>716185417
I had finished the prologue by the time the thread was made. You sound upset about something here, it's really weird. Yes it is absolutely possible to finish act 1 in this amount of time, idiot.

>>716184839
E33 is creative in that it's a one trick pony that blows its load on revealing everything revolves around the painting being the source of family drama. It can be a hit or miss for people. Whereas FF7 is a classic grand adventure that hits so many genres areas of fiction including action, mystery, horror at times, romance, and comedy without feeling forced at all. Its anime goofiness allows it to be taken seriously during moments and also have a ton of fun scenes that dont feel out of place next to each other. The narrative isnt Shakespeare because it isnt trying to be. Even if you dont like the story the unknown journey is the heart of it all. There also is nuance in FF7 including themes of grief, it just isnt pretentious enough to shove it in your face at all times

>>716185852
you arent fooling anyone

>>716114776 (OP)
It's this year's Bioshock Infinite. You're legitimately a subhuman if you get fooled into believing it executes its narrative premise well, if you can't see the way the characters get turned into lobotomites for the sake of shitty cutscenes that drag out obvious reveals like they're the holy hail, if you can't see how garbage the focus on parries in all of the main quest challenges is and the degree to which it comes at the expense of the turn based elements. You're a negro monkey faggot if you shill this drek as "high art" or even just a well designed game.

>>716186182
I'm not trying to you idiot I don't really consider myself a fast paced gamer really and yet I can get through act 1 that quickly. Either it means I'm faster than I thought or you are slow. Keep in mind the thread was made 20 hours ago and I didn't get much sleep it's not hard to fathom.

>>716186054
You're a faggot.

Lune isn't sex

>>716186054
I was kind of annoyed how that's what the story seemed to be steering to, because the setting was very interesting with the concept of the Gommage the ticking clock doomsday and how hopeless it all felt with very cool monster designs. but then we're introduced to Not!Aragon this broody new character with a patch of weeb silver hair, and the revelation that he's Renoir's son was treated as this huge cataclysmic revelation and I was like yeah this is high quality but it's still just JRPG slop

but then Act 2 concluded and when I got the full picture everything just clicked together so well, and it enhanced the setting it's so interesting and sad how the world we're trying to save is not even real. Verso developed into a very interesting character with this self-reflection on what he is and what needs to be done, I like how who the bad guy is is constantly switching up as we get new information: we think it's the Paintress, but then it's revealed the Gommage was from Renoir and the Paintress is trying to save everyone, but then you realize how actually-reasonable Renoir is acting. The dialogue starts hitting Renoir is being compelling, Maelle is being compelling, Verso is being compelling, Lune and Sciel are there too I guess. There's so many different perspectives people have on who was right and what should be done with the Canvas.

very impressed and it feels earnest like this is a story that someone wanted to tell, rather than being this slop developers shat out out of some obligation or some such

>>716187673
how is the game so far for you? i drop it after act 1,i just didn’t like the way the force verso into the story and everyone was like "ok"

>>716114776 (OP)
Its a great game. If you think millions of people somehow collectively have bad taste or are pretentious that might reflect more about you than them. If you have issues or just did not like it that's perfectly fine though. I got burnt out halfway through and needed to take a break.

>>716187797
>That spoiler
>I dropped it after act 1
At least keep playing until you get Monocco. Holy fuck.

For me, it's Dualliste

>>716154913
How much of a pussy are you to do something like this, you can just dodge everything instead of parrying if you're that bad at it

>>716187797
The cutscenes and talking bother me the most, the turn based combat reminds me of Final Fantasy which I find to be a positive comparison. It can be frustrating on normal mode but once I break an enemy it's easy to win the fights. Graphics are great, level design is very well done. But I find that they tried too hard to be a masterpiece with a deep story and it kills the pace and flow of the game.
>>716187989
Shut up faggot. Millions of people can definitely be wrong about something. I am not one to police people's tastes in entertainment. But, I genuinely believe they went too thick with the cutscenes and talking. It could be cut in HALF and it would have done a better job in making the game not a chore to play through.

>>716188052
i tried to play a little more, but i just didn’t care enough to continue, i was also playing Xenoblade XDE and when i finish that one i just move out to other things, maybe one day I will try it again.

>>716187797
I clocked that greyed out girl that constantly follows Maelle was like Maelle from the future or something like that, they're clearly the same person, and so from there I thought Renoir was Gustave from the future because I swear they look so similar and then when we met Verso I thought it was like edgy anime-y Gustave too so I thought we had 3 Gustaves running around.

it's wild to look back and remember my headspace while first playing it, and how I thought Gustave was this huge pivotal character

>>716188224
lmao, i trough the exact same thing

>>716188143
Not policing you. The final two sentences in my post are specifically to validate disinterest in the game. I'm refering to anons who post those "Why game popular ???" threads. The answer is because its good, man.

>>716188224
Your mind was filled with slop.
Hopefully that's corrected now.

>>716188143
I feel like the only time the dialogue drags on is when you're talking to companions at camps, I mean they're fine I like stuff like that but even I was like yeah this will annoy some people this bitch won't shut up. the only other time I noticed this was Gustave's death scene and the resulting cutscenes after take up a huge amount of time, but who cares that's pretty necessary

>>716188224
I had similar delusions.

>>716188224
literally thought the same thing or that they were all family.

>>716188224
>how I thought Gustave was this huge pivotal character
gustave is one of the main characters of the game. gustave, verso, maelle move the story forward. hence why each act is named after them.
& without his lumina converter you would have never seen maelle one shot simon with a billion damage hit.

I like games where I can break them with their own mechanics and become a god-like character. And in this game, it's even canonical. It's like a Neo simulator from The Matrix.

>>716114776 (OP)
I really loved the gameplay outside of some wonky balancing. Thought it was weird that a random palette-swap troll not far off the beaten path would mulch my entire team in one swing of a ten-hit combo while I could beat a major story boss in two rounds.

I really loved the story outside of the ending, which I think undermines a lot of the emotional investment of what came before (mainly regarding the future of Lumiere and the plight of those on the Expeditions) for the sake of a divisive final choice regarding Verso and the Dessendres. Made all the worse by everyone screaming at me that the Verso ending is the objectively good choice when I genuinely hated that fucker by the end.

>>716142683
this is true for like maybe less than half of the genre, and the only people that complain about this only have persona 3-5 as a frame of reference because they're so fucking slow to start, and p5 is the fucking worst of them HOLY SHIT JUST LET ME PLAY THE FUCKING GAME ENOUGH WITH THE TEASING

>>716188224
Are you me

>>716123893
>verso woke up next to THIS & said "nah, i'd gommage"
what existential dread will do to a MF...

>>716151884
>I thought those "people with ADHD who get bored of games in 5 minutes" were a meme.
Oh it is not a meme. I knew this guy who was exactly like that. He was like that with almost everything. He couldn't watch movies, outside of what was popular to watch, and all he could play was cod and apex. And this nigga had the gaul to act like he was smarter than I was. He was the purest definition of normie.

>>716184195
Can confirm. I'm so white I'm damn near transparent.

>>716177271
they clearly flip-flopped on gustave's fate throughout production. he's seen in promo materials at the forgotten battlefield & dualiste boss fight. we all know what happens on release.
the shift was very jarring agreed. i wish the expedition came to terms with it for a couple more hours in act 2. he's sort of just written off. even though gustave is in for 1/3rd or 1/4th of the game i still found him a more compelling MC because he has better chemistry with all the companions except sciel maybe. his heated argument with lune while they're searching for maelle felt very humane & emotional(so crazy cox was in the office for like 5 hours & he gave arguably the best performance of the cast).

>>716190437
>"Waaah, I have to live out my dream and let the people I repeatedly betrayed live out their lives in peace when I'd much rather commit mass murder-suicide."

>>716114776 (OP)
Excellent game overall. Will probably lose GOTY to Bananza

>>716192045
It better not. I don't even care about E33 winning just that Bananza absolutely does not deserve it.

>>716192124
why does a children's game affect you so much?

Objectively GOTY and probably the best game I've played in at least 5 years. The OST lives rent free in my fucking mind months later.

>>716168558
>painted people aren't people
80% of the story is filler that exists to waste your time, as the struggles of the painted people don't matter.
>painted people are people
The painters are absolute monsters, playing god over and killing millions of intelligent lives. Any reasonable person would not give a single shit about the family drama and grief of such horrible beings and would wish for a third, time travel ending where they all die in the fire.
This is why this plot is fundamentally terrible.

>>716178646
She caresses it

>>716193331
I'm gay btw

>>716184195
I'm a beaner and I loved it.

>>716195580
how many hours did that take you

>>716195674
80 something hours, I played a bit after getting the platinum but not much.

>>716114776 (OP)
It was really good. Great take on the usually awful trope (the one that gets revealed at the end of Act 2), a number of really good characters, great gameplay, good visual direction. Lots of stuff that should be easy to tackle they can, and should, fix in a big GotY patch. Things like broken phase change symmetry (enemy will keep burns but not be affected by them when you switch to backup, but you'll still be out of an auto revive even in phase changes disguised as separate fights)

>>716193331
i will jump in & float around the world with esquie to hear the overworld music again. it gives me so much melancholy. i love it.
https://youtu.be/nAOsm31wF5U

I was way too OP for the final boss and I still wasn't high enough level for a bunch of side stuff I didn't do

>>716184195
Most accurate meme I've seen in years. This shit is absolutely a litmus test for whiteness.