Imagine making masterpiece single player experiences for the more hardcore gamer iut there just to make this casual fortnite shit clone where bosses get button mashed to death without any thought.

>Dark Souls 2 and 3
>Deracine
>Masterpiece
Lmao

Yeah and now all the fucking normies are playing this shit and I have nobody to summon. Nobody even using free signs anymore, everybody relies on the stupid fucking summoning posts even though you can put down a sign anywhere just like in old souls games. Why the fuck are people such niggercattle?

>base ER
>NOOOOO WHEN IS IT MY TURN I CAN'T DO ANYTHING
>nightreign
>CASUAL MASHFEST THIS GAME IS TOO EASY
either way there will always be people complaining about the gameplay

>>716119126
>The fuck nigger thinks DS2 is anything but perfection

>>716119107 (OP)
>more hardcore
Elden Ring is literally one of the most casual normalfag games of the last 10 years.

>>716119139
>ER you wait for the bosses
Literally no one ever

>>716119883
Alright let's cut the shit.
It's not Sekiro but it's not "easy" either.

>>716119883
Bro elden ring isnt the most hardcore shit ever but calling it casual is retarded.
It pretty much filtered everyone who didnt want to go deep into the mechanic and what not.
Actual casual games these days are played on auto mode.

>>716119925
>>716120034
Elden Ring with the mimic tear is easier than the average AAA movie game.

>Use this super specific item you jave to find first

>>716120116
>It has an overpowered item that you don't have to use
okay?

>>716119139
>play elden ring
>it's ok difficulty-wise
>enter dlc before main game endgame
>wtf artificial difficulty
>go back to the base game endgame after dlc
>so buckbroken by the dlc that the game feels like a breeze, enter godskin duo arena by accident with half hp and two flasks, mop the floor with them anyway.

>>716121470
I am in my first playthrough and i oretty much 7 or 8 shot bosses with blood ashes of war.
Like wtf?!
I second tried morgot because of jt

>>716121785
I put 400 hours into it and still haven't played the dlc. sucks to suck

>>716119107 (OP)
This game is so much more fun than base elden ring. I can't wait for the DLC. Haven't had this much fun with a game in a long while. It fixes everything wrong with Elden Ring like the empty world, ans gives you a readon to use all the weapons and weapon arts. For me this game is genuinely lightning in a bottle and I'm sad that after DLC comes out they probably won't touch this again. I also can't believe the likes of IGN giving it a 7 because they're fucking filtered faggots meanwhile god of soi gets a 10 for having a grumbling nigger spew one worders for 40 hours while walking forward

>>716121785
bleed is unironically busted, and morgott has a very low hp pool.

>>716121858
Rob a bank to play it then

>>716121969
Bleed?
But i dont even build up bleed?
I just used the ashes of war move which causes a lot of damage to him.
And i only have like 10 arcane so idk where that damage comes from.

>>716122031
I already have it fag lol

>>716119905
>lying on the internet

>>716122318
Thanks for admitting it:)

>>716119712
Yeah when I was fighting a dragonrider for the 50th time I was thinking "wow such perfection".

>>716121889
>we're only gonna get one DLC and then that's it
disappointing with how fun it is, but a paid expansion would be a pipe dream.

>>716119139
Dude.. what if there was a middle point of fun single player without simon says boss turn AND multiplayer bosses had AI and moves that dealt with multiple people. wild idea.

>>716123013
They have infinite potential to continue adding bosses from all the Souls games, more legacy costumes etc. So much they could do. I really hope they add the martial arts and perfumes weapons from the SotE DLC. This is the kind of game they can keep adding stuff to for a really long time with all the backlog of things they have for it. They've already shown they can add things from DS1, 2, and 3 so that's no obstacle. I get Bloodborne and Sekiro are probably off the table due to IP shenanigans. Still, i was absolutely disillusioned with Elden Ring and especially the DLC when 80% of it was riding a horse in an empty field to get shitty consumables. This has done away with that completely. Also the randomization creates such interesting situations. Yesterday we were in the northeast evergaol, got the 3 banished knights and were almost beating them, then a Leonine Misbegotten field boss got aggroed in, and as if that wasn't enough we got raided by Morgott at the same time, it was so fucking wild. I love it.

>>716119107 (OP)
The game is so easy that i dont even feel like i accomplished anything after killing a nightlord.

>>716123275
you mean dark souls 1 before dlc?

>>716121858
get to it, some of the best fromsoft bosses are in the DLC, rellana, bayle and mesmer, and to a lesser extent the madness guy

>>716119107 (OP)
Nightlord bosses are unironically better designed mechanically than any of the garbage in ER, especially in the dogshit that is SOTE

>>716125130
what's so bad about SOTE bosses?

>>716125559
The same thing that's wrong with ER bosses but cranked up to eleven
Overly aggressive long combos with little downtime
Instant gapclosing and blatant input reading making positioning non-existent
Meaning your only option is either chip between short pauses, abuse stance break or cheese with shield poke/mimic tear

>>716125724
but I thought rolling was too good and made the game easier? is the game easy or hard?

>>716119107 (OP)
>Er
>Masterpiece
El keko.

>>716125853
It's not about being easy or hard you retarded redditor, it's about reducing build and playstyle variety by turning everything but a few into a miserable slog
The game is piss easy if you abuse the most OP shit and turn all the bosses into training dummies who can't fight you back but that also makes it boring as shit because at that point you're not really interacting with the game much

Nightreign is pretty fun. Randomization could be better, but honestly the people you play with are the biggest random element. Nothing makes a bigger difference in how the game will go than getting shitters or pros as allies. It's kind of funny, you can tell whether the run will be easy or ballbusting hard within the first 3 minutes of a game.

>>716121889
No way they'll throw away the formula after this. They've been experimenting with this randomly generated stuff since Bloodborne and they finally got something out of it here. They're gonna make more of this down the line in the future.

>>716126213
so according to you the game is easy but not really and the bosses are too hard since their attack patterns are too complex but also they are too easy? you niggers never make any sense man. just be honest with yourself and say what we all know. that you are a faggot, and just like every faggot out there they hate Fromsoft games. its weird why homosexuals hate fromsoft so much. there should be a case study on this.

>>716126419
>say my complaint isn't about the difficulty
>keeps droning on about the difficulty
I accept your confection

>>716126492
you might be retarded

>>716126492
you were crying that the bosses are “overly aggressive” if you found the game easy then why would that bother you? its easy after all so it dont matter, right?

>>716126572
You are definitely retarded and have zero reading comprehension
Keep seething nigger

>>716126572
he is, but these retarded faggots also use chat gpt in all their post.

>>716126419
you fucking retard it's about the fun, variety and balance. The less breathing room the boss gives the more they suffer.
In sekiro you can still run away from bosses to heal, and you literally just can't in ER

good morning sirs!

>>716123370
I seriously hope one of the new characters is based around SOTE martial arts

>>716127156
perfumer would go hard too

>>716127075
but le gaem... has to be hard? gael is too easy now, every time I replay DS3 I wish that he could inflict blight, input read and delay his attacks. it's just not the same now :(

>>716127075
so you think the game is too easy but since the bosses are aggressive it makes the game too hard for you? you just keep going around in circles bro.
you complain the game has no challenge while complaining about the challenge.
well its all good, I have all day to be here with you.

>>716127252
how are you input reading the AI? are you a bot?

>>716127428
>brownoid slips and reveals he can't fucking read
every time

>>716127292
overwhelming an enemy with stats =/= easy fight, it means you have better stats. Which is shit for an action game. And ER is action game first.

>>716127473
I just ignore him, the character/fanart spamming fags are always either autists, schizos or neets with too much time on their hands

>>716119107 (OP)
>rollslop
>masterpiece

>>716127576
so you are saying Elden Ring is too easy.
well then the bosses and enemies having a complex attack patterns should be no issue for you.
don’t understand what you were crying about then.

>>716127649
i'm not even the og poster but sure go on with your poor trolling

>>716127578
>fan art
only faggots like and draw fan art

>>716127697
so what is your issue with Elden Ring?

>>716119107 (OP)
It's just like fortnite. Fortnite is known for a focus on melee combat with spell casting and not a strong focus on other types of ranged weapons, it's also known for being centered around boss fights. Fortnite, bro.

been eating good the last few years

>>716119136
No they aren't.

>>716127757
that's it's not peak demon's souls/ dark souls 2 and instead it's even more flanderized version of DS3 that has stat check bosses to force you into ubislop open world. That didn't even have the foresign to adjust npc quests at all, or make map scale make sense, etc etc. Basically all the souls issues combined with all the open world issues to create the objectively most hateable for me game ever.

>>716127862
Elden ring is more like ds2 in the skin of ds3

>>716127862
thats crazy talk man, Elden Ring is the culmination of all Fromsoft has learned through the years. its a masterpiece.
you wishing for them to change how NPC interactions are structured makes me really think you are a secondary faggot, gotta be honest here.

>>716128041
in fairness to this anon, the npc quests were difficult to keep track of without a guide

>>716128041
I agree, every complaint boils down to skill issue, nitpick or complete retard levels of contrarianism

>>716128207
well there are no “quests” in any Souls game. Elden Ring is no different.

>Elden Ring is the culmination of all Fromsoft has learned through the years. its a masterpiece.

>>716128207
My main issue is that the characters don't give enough verbal information as to where they might show up next. I tried to go as long as I could without guides, and even deliberately trying to complete certain npc quests I couldn't, because they relied on me finding them in a random corner of the map without any hints as to where they might be. This is especially egregious if it's an area you've already been to. Shadow of the erdtree did it very well, they didn't really tell you much about where they were going but they were placed in pretty obvious locations so anyone trying can easily do the quests without guides

>>716128207
Ranni's is very easy to follow, as is millicent but to be fair i stumbled into that on my first playthrough by killing o'neil and getting the needle before talking to gowry

>>716128395
its true, in fact its actually the greatest game ever conceived.

>>716128471
I wouldn't go that far, but it's a hell of a ride and I liked it even more on my second playthrough earlier this summer