Which year would you say video games began to get worse? I feel like games released after around 2015 mark the point since when we haven't gotten any truly good games.

>>716148308 (OP)
>I feel like games released after around 2015 mark the point since when we haven't gotten any truly good games.

I bet you can't even run modern games. What are your PC specs?

>>716148708
3060 12gb, 32gb ram, 10400 cpu

>>716148767
Oh, 3060? I used to have a 3060, and it played this just fine. You haven't tried it?

>>716148810
I have it, played it 5 hours but it's not very good

>>716148308 (OP)
>Which year would you say video games began to get worse?
2008 when Mass Effect 2 came out and EA turned our beautiful RPG with a great story into a third person shooter with literally no plot. It was the beginning of the end.

>>716148308 (OP)
when the wii came out

>>716148308 (OP)
DOOM 2016

Hard to say because while the top of AAA was deterioating, the top of inde's have only gotten better.

>>716148937
which indies do you like anon-san

>>716148308 (OP)
Unironically it's when Sony entered the market with PlayStation. Many people will say nuh-uh but it's 100% the starting point: a company that doesn't care about video games using its money to force itself onto store shelves. Then it got worse with Microsoft doing the same thing. (but le Microsoft games on PC) not the same thing.

>>716148862
>played it 5 hours but it's not very good

If you don't like BG3 then it might be a you problem. I used to play games like pic related and think they were amazing. Look at these graphics.

>>716149115
and games look like this now.

>>716148308 (OP)
Ever since microtransactions was normalized. Every publisher started making live service games instead of actual good games.

>>716149391
>Every publisher started making live service games instead of actual good games.

That's a reasonable argument about modern gaming. Everyone is just chasing the live service money, but it's really hard to get.

>>716148308 (OP)
1997

>>716148308 (OP)
>Which year would you say video games began to get worse?
When did you get to your 20s or 30s? Being an adult, having actual responsibilities and less time to play makes you feel like videogames aren't fun anymore because they aren't made for you anymore

1995

>>716149013
this guy gets it

>>716148308 (OP)
>retarded frog
>cannot think of a single good game since 2015
You don't like video games.

>>716148308 (OP)
when TLOU1 released

>>716148308 (OP)
2009

>>716150712
You can actually feel the effects of The Last of Us long after it came out. Every third person shooter after just tried to be that game. I liked SH2, but I could tell which game they were copying. It's just Maria instead of Ellie.

2007

>>716148308 (OP)
>2015
Yes, this was the game that turned everything into shit. It was also a shit game and made /v/ lose all hope and become the cynical men they are today.

>>716151668
>It was also a shit game and made /v/ lose all hope and become the cynical men they are today.

What if someone didn't play the game?

>>716148308 (OP)
good games still exist. you just need to stop asking for perfection

>>716152025
>you just need to stop asking for perfection

I don't think that's the problem. I think these people have bad lives, and that's why they think everything is bad. Video games are meant to help with a bad life, so they're just doubling down on suffering.

>>716148308 (OP)
Obviously gen 7

no new game after the phantom pain has been worth playing

>>716148308 (OP)
2006

>>716152025
But why would I play them? Superior games were released long time ago
>Inb4 wow 2 cakes
Except that the old cake is clearly better

>>716152308
>Superior games were released long time ago

Okay, so why are you here instead of /vr/?

>>716148308 (OP)
2006

They aren't worse. I was just a dumb kid who could play anything and be happy.

>>716152110
maybe op just needs to try a new genre. and remember 4chan calls everything slop so don't take reviews here seriously

>>716148308 (OP)
Elden ring showed the world that lazy devs can still milk the nigger console ps4 for another 10 years. But the cracks were showing even before then with games like watchdogs and sark souls 2 getting MASSIVE downgrades so that their respective console versions did not look like pure shit by comparison.

So yeah. Consoles and consolefags literally ruined gaming simply by existing.

Occupy Wall Street, 2012

>>716152409
>maybe op just needs to try a new genre

I don't know what these people need. I think they're just normalniggers who are bitter during and after their slave duties, and so we have to hear them on 4chan. If I play the same game I played when I was a teenager, I still think it's good. People are just suffering outside of gaming and decide to blame the games.

There have always been bright spots but things gradually got worse from like 2000 forward, got MUCH worse from 2010 forward, and then got better again from 2015 forward.

2011-2014 were so bad I would probably struggle to put together a list of even ten games I like from those years. I was mostly watching anime and playing my PS2 backlog at the time. Honestly without the DS you could push that range all the way back to 2006. The window between Okami and Bloodborne/Splatoon is tremendously depressing if you don't want to play handheld games.

Between 2009-10. Before that we still had decent games like Crysis, CoD4, l4d1, tf2(Valve was rly going strong), ME1 etc

I can't think of a single game

>>716148308 (OP)
2008, and not a year later.

>>716153156
Jackie Chan?

>>716149829
Someday people will really look back and see that it all went downhill from there.

>>716148308 (OP)
2010.

>>716149901
I love her.

>>716148308 (OP)
2001

>>716152308
You can use that same argument to say that you should only ever play one (1) single video game ever.

>>716155291
People already do. That's why moot fought to keep PS1 excluded from /vr/ (a losing argument, as PS1 arguably feels more retro than SNES/Genesis because of how poorly Early 3D aged).

History of games shows that people who LOVE games being put in charge of making games is what gets good results. You'd think this would be fucking obvious but major publishers and devs keep promoting and putting in charge people who don't even try to hide their contempt for the thing they're in charge of. We got Dark Souls and Bloodborne, probably the single brightest spot of hope gaming had in the 2010s, because a 33 year old guy who was tired of his job played Ico and fell in love with videogames. Sony's complete and total neglect of Bloodborne since, and abusive mistreatment of Demon's Souls, speaks to how badly businessmen fuck up the art form. That's why gaming is healing right now, because game superfans have been empowered to make their own stuff through easy indie game distribution.

You fags are so retarded it gives me a headache. Everyone knows that gaming declined heavily starting in 2005, but there have still been plenty of great games since then. If you think there are literally no good games, and worse you think the cutoff is 2015, you must be a special kind of retarded because I don’t even know how that happens

>>716148308 (OP)
tell us, how old are you?

The year I turned 18 and had to think about all these adult responsibilities and shit. What a weird coincidence...

>>716156884
>there are literally no good games
Correct

I haven't gamed in years

Every day I wake up and I think man it's fucked up that nobody made any videogames after Sekiro.

>>716148308 (OP)
Fallout 4 was the canary in the coalmine

>>716149115
>graphics
Graphics don't mean shit. BG 3 is just not a good game.

>>716158370
A lot of people would say BioShock Infinite or ME3. It's interesting how there really was that time where it felt like immersive sims and "console WRPGs" were considered the pinnacle of game development, like the end of history. Major American devs making them were treated like a new Rome in the industry and then in the 2010s Rome burned again.

For those who already found Fallout 3, BioShock, or Mass Effect 1 to be lackluster echoes of older games, there was not much of a surprise, more like a "oh, you guys are only now realizing you're playing crap now that the devs are visibly running out of development money after wasting it all on graphical fidelity?" In the future I think it will be seen as similar to the crashing and burning of the collectathon genre.

we still have power to change things currently i am working on pic related

>>716148308 (OP)
Since 2006, most here were in their early teens at that time and so have nostalgia for the brown and bloom military shooter era, but that was the beginning of the death of videogames as a medium, because it paved the way for every single shitty practice that has now become normalized. Chopping the game content to bits to sell it bit by bit as DLC and the death of "expansion pack" game content delivery method that offered significant additions bordering on a new game on the same engine in scope? Check. Nickel and diming you for insignificant shit? Check. Live service slop via platforms like Steam and Games For Windows live? Check. 75 FoV autoaim consolecuck shooters? Check. Videoames hitting the mainstream media as "cybersports"? Check. Rise of the "movie games" and "we want to appeal to wider audience?" Check. Faggotry and DEIshit in RPG's? Check. It was as if the floodgates of the abyss had opened, surging forth with a tidal wave of slop and the retarded cattle gorged themselves on it without stopping. Now, almost twenty years later, the very same people are asking themselves "How could this happen?"