Thread 716179518

tranny site, who cares

Wow there are some shit games on that list
Outer Wilds and Donkey Kong are the only ones in that image worth playing

>>716179743
Reddit taste

>>716179518 (OP)
>chrono nigger
Cross is better

>>716179518 (OP)
Dang, the top 3 highest games are all from the last 5 years, we must live in a golden age of video games.

the only people who would buy a switch 2 at launch are the kinds of people who would rate donkey kong a 10/10

>>716179831
Videogame stories are not good
Read a book, nigger

>>716179996
this but unironically

>>716179996
honestly it's a good list of games, you'd be hard pressed to call any of them even mediocre

Why is Mario Bros 3 not on there?

>>716179518 (OP)
they can't stop winning

>backloggd
No. I use this site and I can tell you the people who post their reviews on largely retarded. For every 1 good review from a guy who clearly played the game to completion and knows a lot about video games, there's 100s of morons who don't.

>>716181120
ace attorney series has always been mediocre slop. deltarune is slop. DK (the new one) is slop. RDR2 isnt slop but its... extremely hamstringed by the incongruencies between the fact that it wants to be an open world game but every single fucking mission in the entire game has to be done in an extremely specific and arbitrary way as dictated by the developers. so theres no actual freedom at all and it makes the game feel soulless.

havent played astro bot, it seems ok but its probably not a top game of all time.

>>716179518 (OP)
>E33
>BG3
>RDR2
>ER
>Death fucking Stranding 2
Much like anime catalog websites, it's just the most recent normalnigger favorites on there and nothing you can take seriously.

>>716181453
>so theres no actual freedom at all and it makes the game feel soulless.
That's Astroturf lol.

>>716181509
BG3 and RDR2 definitely deserve to be there.

>>716181602
Lol

>>716181602
RDR2 plays like dogshit though. It's presentation and attention to detail is unlike any other AAA, but that doesn't mean I'm going to rate it highly if it's a slog to play.

>>716181564
i have no idea what you are trying to convey with this message but perhaps you should think before posting. What is astroturf? My post? Do you mean "you are astroturfing"? in what way? i have the game for both PC and ps4, i played it quite a lot, and it was my biggest complaint with the game. I cant tell you how many times i just stopped playing in frustration due to the fact that the game always expects you to do things in extremely specific ways for anything related to a quest/mission or whatever they are called in rdr2 i cant remember. It was an issue in the first game too, i remember that, but i dont remember being nearly as annoyed. Perhaps cyberpunk kinda just ruined things for me. I cant think of a single mission in CP that makes you fail because of extremely arbitrary conditions that clash with different playstyles.

>>716181695
It doesn't play like dogshit, it actually feels very realistic and grounded in a good way. The mission structure is very repetitive, but you can look past that when it is so far and away ahead of other games in terms of story, characters, writing, open-world, attention to detail, graphics, animation, immersion, etc.

>>716179518 (OP)
Rating aggregator sites are always garbage. Like according to Goodreads, The Hunger Games Catching Fire is better than literally everything Shakespeare ever wrote.

>>716181602
It's time to post it again.

>>716181602
>RDR2
No, its not good game.

>>716181924
that's some kind of bug/cheat, you don't have access to your gun there.

>>716181924
this shit is what i mean. why does that make you fail the mission? what was the arbitrary conditions the game expected you to meet in this situation that the player didnt meet. were you not supposed to kill him? why?

>>716181840
Astrobot is Astroturfed and it's terribly linear and railroaded like all Sony's current moviegames. It doesn't even have Juno momentum when playing as regular the Funko pop looking MC.

>>716181975
Yes, it's far better than whatever Nintendo or hipster crap you consider the best.

>>716182031
It's literally a modified game for the sake of making ragebait. He cheated in a weapon there when you don't have access to one.

>>716182074
jump*

>>716181602
>BG3
I don't think any game where the last third of the game was clearly rushed out the door compared to everything prior deserves to be a top 2 video game of all time. Even if "naaaah bro its like DnD but video game frfr!!!!"
>RDR2
Very well made, accomplishes its goal of "cowboy simulator" extremely well, and even ypu can find lots of normalniggers that played it. But holy fuck is it a slog to actually play. Out of everything I listed, I'd say it's the only one I could see a real argument for.

>>716182076
ok, thats fair, but that kind of "you failed" thing happens way too fucking much when playing the game and that was my main complaint with it. If you like the game thats fine anon, you dont need anyone else in the world to validate your taste for you. I just dont like it, it was frustrating and felt soulless to me.

>>716181120
"a handful of good games" != the best games of all time

The only ones there even remotely in the running for "best of all time" are Chrono Trigger, BG3, and SH2, the rest barely crack 8/10

>>716182326
>BG3
Kill yourself.

>>716182229
It's way better after patches, and Act 3 only looks weaker compared to the 12/10 that is Act 1 and Act 2. Act 3 is still a solid 9/10, and Act 3 alone is better than vast majority of CRPGs.

Dark Souls latter half quality drop off is far, far greater, and the first half isn't even all that great to begin with outside of a few strong areas like Sen's Fortress and Painted World.

>>716179518 (OP)
>AstroTurf Bot
>KCD2
>Disco Elsium
>Baldur's Gay
Is this ResetERA?

>MAL but for vidya
Their taste is probably just as fucking garbage as them.

>>716182376
Baldur's Turd 3 still doesn't belong anywhere above a 7/10.

>>716182348
I personally wasn't a fan but the amount of interactivity, reactivity, and roleplaying options in it is undeniable, it mogs basically everything released in the past 15 years in that regard

>>716182376
>better after patches
I still don't believe a game should be shipped out like that. I'm also certain that it was on top of that list even before it was "fixed."
>Dark Souls
You're exactly right, and as much as I actually really like that game, I do not believe it deserves to top this list either.

>>716179518 (OP)
>most movie games
>inferior smoy shill Mario Odyssey clone
>most recent turds released
>Poseur Hill 2
>Chrono Nigger
>Worst Ace Attorney
Kill this site.

>>716181120
>E33
Not interested didn't play
>BG3
Good
>Bananza
Not interested didn't play
>MGS
Movie
>Silent Hill
Movie
>Red Dead
Completely generic and braindead, and also a movie
>Disco Elysium
Good
>Outer Wilds
Good
>Mother
Bad
>Astro Bot
Didn't play
>Ace Attorney
VNs aren't video games
>Alyx
Good
>Bloodborne
Mediocre
>KCD
Actual garbage
>Death Stranding
Movie
>Elden Ring
Mediocre
>Chrono Trigger
Mediocre
>Deltarune
Didn't play

>>716182828
An actual reddit homosexual in the flesh

>>716181509
If an anime toplist has Steins;Gate or SnK in it I stop taking it seriously. People always end up praising the most normalfag garbage possible.

BG3 is the best game of all time. Marian is the greatest company of all time.

>>716182890
I was permabanned from reddit nearly 20 years ago

>>>716181120 #
>>E33
>Not interested didn't play
>>BG3
>Good
>>Bananza
>Not interested didn't play
>>MGS
>Movie
>>Silent Hill
>Movie
>>Red Dead
>Completely generic and braindead, and also a movie
>>Disco Elysium
>Good
>>Outer Wilds
>Good
>>Mother
>Bad
>>Astro Bot
>Didn't play
>>Ace Attorney
>VNs aren't video games
>>Alyx
>Good
>>Bloodborne
>Mediocre
>>KCD
>Actual garbage
>>Death Stranding
>Movie
>>Elden Ring
>Mediocre
>>Chrono Trigger
>Mediocre
>>Deltarune
>Didn't play

>>716179518 (OP)
Backlogged banned the most brilliant video games scientist in history. Terrible site.

>>716179518 (OP)
>Taking backlog at face value
Even i that i use the site don't take the scorings seriously. Get a grip, anon.

>>716180295
the trvke that anons dont want to hear

>>716182828
>anime tranny has the most tranny taste
Not surprised.

>>716181453
>RDR2 isnt slop
once you ignore every problem with the game the end product is pretty slop

>>716183003
Yet the virus still persists in your brain.

BG3 and RDR2 are masterpieces. The rest range from mediocre to terrible. Elden Ring doesn't belong anywhere near there.

>>716183315
Ape Escape 3 is better than all these games

>>716183023
Who?

>Bloodborne
>Elden Ring
>Ace Attourney anything
Who made thos list? Retards? At least they got it right with BG3 and MGS3.

>>716182828
>Disco Redditsium
>good

>>716183979
Sounds like someone didn't play as a badass hustler

>>716184327
Don't ever use Oguri Cap for your ragebait again, Troonimai-loving ass.

>>716184438
I am literally Oguri Cap

>>716179743
A deep reflections about life game, while ignoring other deep reflections about life games on the list. I can respect the competency of your plausible deniability, I guess.

>>716184667
>playing video games for the "experience"
Just watch a movie nigga

>>716180257
Or retards like me hoping it's not trash because they loved DKC and DK64, and being disappointed.

>>716179518 (OP)
>E33 first
God what a travesty.

>>716179518 (OP)
We'll see where it ranks when the honeymoon phase is over and it isn't one of the only switch 2 games to play

>>716180257
countered by a billion snoys rating it 1/10.

>>716184728
I don't like movies, it's easier to connect to a character's story if you're playing as them.

Garbage like BG3 and RDR2 shouldn't belong and are boring movies for normoid cattle.

>>716179518 (OP)
>that recency bias

>>716185109
Metacritic mods are deleting most of the bad reviews, even if people clearly played the game. I think some of them are on 4chan. Because when I said mostly 0 and 1 star reviews got deleted, they started going after other ones more.

>>716182074
>It doesn't even have Juno momentum
name 5 games with Juno momentum

any top 10 list that contains disco elysium can be ignored

>>716181602
Lol bg3 was one of the most boring games I have ever played. Maybe you have to be a sexless incel or a woman to get into it since it's just a dating sim.

>>716179518 (OP)
What a shitty list.

>>716181120
Let's see which ones are good
>MGS3
>Disco Elysium (if you pretend it's actually a video game)
>Outer Wilds (debatably)
>Alyx (debatably)
>DS2 (maybe because I haven't played it yet)
The rest are dime-a-dozen, mediocre or worse.

>>716182705
It really isn't. Reactivity is mostly flavor, like turning on a flag for an extra line of dialog that doesn't actually change the events at all, and the game becomes increasingly railroaded with each act. As early as when you try to give the d20 to the gith it floats back to you and responds "Well I guess you were chosen by it so okay then." The demon does the same shit. It's farcical. Almost all remaining options are just "do you want to see this content or not?"

>>716185636
Lmao shut the fuck up clown. BG3 is easily top 3 RPGs of all time, if not the absolute best

BG3 has absolutely top-notch
>sense of adventure, immersion, and world-building
>free-form, challenging, open-ended combat with a strong focus on environmental interaction
>deep mechanics, strong strategic elements, and high replayability
>memorable fights against a huge variety of well-designed enemies and bosses in unique scenarios that take part in context of a greater narrative/quest, instead of just being braindead throwaway trashmobs to farm
>tons of classes, builds, spells, playstyles to tinker with
>world design and inter-connectivity
>open-ended and branching quest design, interactivity, and reactivity
>player choice and freedom
>lighthearted writing that knows when to be serious and with engaging companion arcs
>attention to detail, ability to interact with anything, go anywhere, go in any interior, steal anything, kill anyone, story always adapts to your actions

There are many games that are strong in one aspect, and weak in most others. BG3 is as strong in its weakest aspects as most RPGs are in their strongest aspect. It is just such an incredibly well-rounded game, and it especially excels in open-ended environmental-based combat, player choice and freedom, and interactivity/reactivity that are completely untouched by any other comparable RPG in existence (except other Larian RPGs).

simply suffering from last best thing is greatest, not a real connoisseur

just throw in chrono trigger to make it a real list

>>716179518 (OP)
>all slop

Fuck gamers

>>716180295
>>716183027
>muh games have never into writing
>muh heckerino carmack saying game plots are like porn
90% of all literature is garbage, but that doesn't stop good books from being good books.
"video games don't have good stories" is a reddit opinion and untrue

>>716179518 (OP)
What website is this so I can down vote all the movie games?

>>716185770
BG3 has the most shallow combat known to CRPGs, Lariandrone.

>>716185770
Why do all the women look like protagonists in a SFM futa animation?

>>716185770
>immediately glazes the jury-rigged 5e combat system
Weak bait. If you want someone to laugh, being facetious doesn't work here anymore because there are too many actual retards for there to be any good faith in reading the whole joke.

>movies
>soulsslop
>recent slop
Whoever made this list was never born before the 2010s.

>>716179518 (OP)
The strategy is to just hire a massive army of jeets/bots to shill your game now it seems. There's only 6 games in that list that aren't from the last 5 years.

>>716185770
I never felt anything for the characters and find the cast 100% irredeemably shit when I played it.

>>716185845
Reddit sucks movie game cock whenever they get the chance and ignore gameplay heavy games.

Reddit: The 6x3

>>716185845
The big misinterpretation of that carmack quote is that he thinks there shouldn't be stories in games.

The actual case is that whilst you don't need a story, and its fine to just make a game free of one, the inclusion of one can elevate the game further. A bad story however will do more damage than not having one at all.
We just need to get away from the current trend of hiring some acclaimed writer and then testing everything for cultural sensitivity or whatever else gets in the way of telling a good story. There aren't enough stories out there that force the viewer to feel uncomfortable for fear of negative feedback of those who are too dumb to realize that's what fiction can excel at.

>>716186028
>>716185773
This is not an individual list, it is the highest rated games on backloggd from which hundreds of thousands of users have voted on these games (by far the largest user review gaming platform)

>>716186251
Nope. That's picrel

>>716186332
>A bad story however will do more damage than not having one at all.
I'm reminded of Viewfinder, where the gameplay concept is novel on its own, but the storytelling/writing goes out of its way to ruin the experience.

>>716186346
It shows that the masses are weak brained and fall for whatever meme social media or journalists tell them to fall for.

>>716181602
>big gay 3
>reddit dead reddition 2
lmfao, kekroflmao even

>>716186362
>wii sports
LMAO

Post 'em bros.

>>716186332
>The actual case is that whilst you don't need a story, and its fine to just make a game free of one
While that's true, that's not just what Carmack is saying. He is indeed talking about his preference and experience making games, where mechanics, spectacle, and gamefeel were the "game" part of the game while the narrative was there as theming and motivation, but it was ultimately best left thin and neglected.
There are games I love that have no story. There are games I love that are all about the story. Different games are good for different reasons.

>>716186362
>Dark Souls
>Elden Ring
>No Bloodborne
I thought Plebbit was PSoy general?

>>716186346
No you mean redditors and zoomers are voting. The rest of us are actually playing games.

>>716186346
normie pleb list
I don't hate it but it is what it is democracy, not a kangdom.

>>716186695
What makes RA2 good enough to put on there? I played C&C1/RA1, and then checked out of the series after Tiberian Sun.
Then came back later for just Renegade

>>716186204
reddit fucking sucks but this is just wrong. gameplay heavy games have large, dedicated communities.
>shmups
>fighting games
>mobas
>shooters
>friendslop
>factorio-likes
>world sims
>speedrunning
all of these have popular reddit communities for gameplay-only autists. unless there's some super sekrit club of gameplay heavy, non-story driven games that reddit doesn't know about

>>716186346
>a site about games people have not finished yet
>taking reviews from it seriously

>>716179518 (OP)
>JRPG for normalfags
>Porn VN for normalfags
>EXPAND DONG ft. Return of the King

>>716186920
You played through the entire series but skipped the best game?

>>716187064
e33 is not a jrpg. japs did not invent turn based combat.

>>716181509
Death Stranding 2 is an 11/10 faggot

>>716187138
>entire series
Up to that point. I still have half of the series to check out at some point, with CnC3&4, RA2&3, and Generals. Probably end up wishlisting that remaster & collection that's on Steam these days. Heard the remaster of CnC/RA1 was good.

>>716186834
If they were then Ape Escape, Shadow of the Collosus, and Demon's Souls would also be there.

>>716186986
Backloggd reviews are kinda like /v/. You must be willing to search through shit, and I mean a lot of shit, to find the gold.

>>716187465
Just play RA2 and YR and be done with it.

Red Alert 3 and C&C4 are terrible

>>716187503
Only Europeans cared about Ape Escape, and they're all banned from Reddit without real ID nowadays.

>>716186920
insane soundtrack, setpieces and likely the best balance in the series (not saying much)

>>716186834
It's western games general sprinkled with Jap games into the mix.

>>716186920
Great campaigns and setpieces, artstyle looks fantastic even today, killer soundtrack, tons of fun units, solid game balance, campy humor, entertaining story that is a good mix between campy and serious.

I played a bunch of the C&C games growing up but RA2 is the only one that ever stuck with me. Replayed it recently and it still holds up exceptionally well.

>>716188004
>solid game balance
I wouldn't say solid game balance as soviets completely rely on like 2-3 units while allies have an entire arsenal and meanwhile yuri is fucking broken

>>716188152
talking more about campaign and factions feeling differentiated and generally balanced, not about hyper-optimized e-sports faggotry. As I understand, in competitive, Yuri > Soviets > Allied, but Yuri is more of a noob faction because they are easy to use, while strong soviet / allied players can still win against yuri.

>>716188519
>but Yuri is more of a noob faction because they are easy to use
you're not going to counter armies of UFOs bro
and by the way you can tell the game's broken even at first glance with how much shit the soviets lost with the expansion, only being afloat due to desolator

Recency bias the list

>>716188960
Idk, the few PvP tournaments I've seen, everyone spams soviets and the Yuri players lose pretty low in the bracket

>>716179518 (OP)
>Shadow Generations - 4.36*
This site ain't so bad.

I don't really browse /v/ compared to other boards I'm on but I am happy to see astrobot doing well :)

>>716189553
It does well simply for being the only high budget platformer on the PS5. When compared to older titles or those on other consoles, it's nothing special. More care was put into costumes and references to dead franchises than it's platforming.