Gabe Newell sees AI as a cheat code: "If you wanna be an accountant, learn AI, if you want to be an attorney, learn AI, if you want to be a game dev, learn AI"

B-but redditors said AI is like NFTs and nobody will actually use it in the future! B-because humans like uhhh writing their essays and doing math for htemselves and uhhh ALSO TRANS WOMEN DRAW BETTER THAN AI OK?!!?

>>716209632 (OP)
He's right.

You've been spamming this for like,what, 2 weeks now?

yes, and 3 years ago this fat, gay retard also said he was "looking into" and actively developing gaming brain implants

then someone must've told him that was impossible and he admitted it wasn't happening

Gabe Newell also said that reading wikipedia is the same thing as going to university.

>>716209687
Godlike thread, Anon ascended with that one

>>716209867
Hes not wrong. The only benefit of college is the networking and getting laid

>>716209867
He's right, but only for the undistracted.

GabeN also bet on Artifact and VR.

I didnt realize until last week how much ai slop is being spammed on youtube by india
even with the updated youtube policies the pajeets continue to monetize their ai material

>>716209867
this is true for hard sciences and people with the will and discipline to learn things

>>716209632 (OP)
>Company known for pushing new technologies is pushing new technologies
What a shock.

>>716209867
And what exactly is it that you do at a university?

>>716210052
You network with peers. The smarter (and richer) the better for your future prospects. The ambition at top places is also contagious.

>>716210052
Fuck a bunch of sluts, minimum

>>716209632 (OP)
>significant technology transition
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE VALVE IS A TRANNY! WOKE WOKE WOKE! SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!

>>716209632 (OP)
don't hate the player, hate the game

>>716209867
it's a lot less retarded that's for sure, and you'll easily learn more

>>716209632 (OP)
The curious part is what took him so long to realize that. Carmack and Timmy were on board since day 1.

>>716211308
that part where the cat shakes its head because it's wet is shockingly high IQ

AI is the solution to stop killing games, just have companies train ai to play their games so when they end all servers a person can just loadup simulated players and play as if the game just came out

They insist on using it at my work. The other day I asked the AI for the number for tech support. I rang it and it was a tree surgeon from two states away.

>>716209632 (OP)
He's absolutely right and people who do not realize or want to accept this will get steamrolled regardless of how hard they plug their ears and scream.

>>716209632 (OP)
And John Carmack is actively developing and researching new AI tech. I think you need to admit that you're just a luddite when the smartest people are saying AI actually is the future.

>>716211960
They insist on it because you're insanely stupid and once you learn to use AI you will probably do your job better.

>>716210052
you get a piece of paper that gets you jobs

>>716209632 (OP)
omg me too gabe I also love AI, I can use it to create somehting like picrel!!!

>>716209770
Neuralink let that one paralyzed guy play vidya. Those things work and will be great if you need them.

It'll get weird when people who don't need them start using it for an edge though, that's cyberpunk shit.

>>716212054
Yes Mr Skekelstein AI is better.

>>716209632 (OP)
dun told ye
So what will YOU create once gamedev is made ez even for a solodev with no dosh?

>>716212945

>>716212945
>>716212998
this reminds me that i i turned a 2d image into a 3d model and then printed it
its so easy to bring images to life now

>>716212160
As they are right now, there's nothing that a mouse and keyboard couldn't do better. Obviously the technology is improving, but the technological development isn't focused on gaming. It's just a neat headline (even if we've already done the same thing with chimps like 20 years ago).

BCIs and neural implants are the future, but they won't get here soon. Anyone who says they are probably also think that commercial fusion power and AGI are coming soon.

>>716213173
>BCIs and neural implants are the future, but they won't get here soon.
i thought elons chip was that

>>716213129

>>716213173
You obviously can't use those things when you're paralyzed.
> but the technological development isn't focused on gaming
That's a very important aspect of it from Gabe's point of view. All those invalids aren't buying games because they can't play them!
>but they won't get here soon.
They are literally here now though? They clearly work and there are a bunch of different methods. The guy who left Elon's team seems to have by far the best one so far and they'll keep getting better.

>>716209632 (OP)
AI is the future, I can literally banepost with a 10 second gen:

https://voca.ro/1klCcmOLsLv0

AI can and should replace all the average retards at a company cause they can be replaced with a few smart people who know computers and can use LLM tools.

>>716213173
>As they are right now
that's the point of developing them you lobotomized retard, so they advance in their capabilities.

>>716209770
not yet

>>716209632 (OP)
APOLOGIZE

>>716213129
>i i turned a 2d image into a 3d model and then printed it
someone on twitter who does that asked me to make an image and I feel like he'll just turn it into a toy to sell...

>>716209632 (OP)
Maybe he's right? Maybe you are a retarded troglodyte?

>>716213129
It's really cool that we can do that. Someday it will be super streamlined too.

AI is the future and the best part is stupid people don't matter cause they are who AI models will replace, cause they are literally peons.

why would you NOT harness computer tools to massively boost productivity? Can you work as fast as a computer 24/7? no. They are tools to supplement your work.

>>716213249
>>716213316
They won't get here soon for mass consumption is what I meant. I guess that wasn't clear enough.


>>716213353
Maybe someday they'll have a chip to treat your turbosperg ass.

>>716212159
He was 'ick on 'eck all along?

>>716213571

>>716213601
>hey won't get here soon for mass consumption is what I meant.
i mean they just chipped the 9th guy the other day
seems like a simple issue of scaling

>>716209632 (OP)
>learn AI
that's a good thing about AI, you don't need to learn it. It just works. The hardest part is to host it on your machine, but other ai can help you with that.

>>716213601
I highly doubt it will take this long honestly. I don't think most people will want them though.

>>716211308
I like how proud he is of Messy's haircut

so glad I went to school for CS and not art, now I can just take an image and animate it with a few prompts lol
>4 years for art
retards.

no shit, as a code monkey it has made me more productive with less effort
the cost of making games will crater

>>716213756
also since it is fun ill spoonfeed the /ldg/ video stuff/workflow:

https://rentry.org/wan21kjguide

>>716212998
I don't understand how it rotates static images.
It predicts what's on the other side, by looking inside data sets? That's it?

>>716210052
learn how to serve kikes, get connections and fuck toilets

>>716213821
who knows
its magic
try it yourself
https://huggingface.co/spaces/ilcve21/Sparc3D

>>716213720
Where'd you get this table from?

>>716213821
the lora (like info on a style or concept) can tell a model how to make an image or video, like ghibli style, or a spinning object, or whatever.

it can do it cause the lora is trained with rotating objects or content like that, so the model knows how to do it. same with ghibli stuff, it's trained on the films so it can replicate the style.

>>716213821
It's called AI for a reason. It's smrt.

Here it is turning a drawing of an ipod into my wife.

>>716212159
the 'ecker won

>>716213756
Is McDonald's still around in the 2050s and during the Gray Death?

>>716213891
chatgpt...

>>716212159
>GabeN coming directly to your house to deliver your 'eck

>>716214050
yes, only the illuminati spread the lie that mcdonalds doesn't exist in the city.

>>716214064
Oh, I was expecting it to be from one of the companies invested in making BCI and thought this was a press release or some FAQ.

i love ai!

>>716213890
>https://huggingface.co/spaces/ilcve21/Sparc3D
When the result gonna be in a .obj or .fbx format, it would be so over for a corporate gamedev and so back for a solo

>>716214354
you can just convert it
plenty of tools do conversion, i converted the glb into a stl

>>716213720
Why would they not want them? Do you think people are just going to avoid transhumanism at large?

>>716214463
They are creepy, the software will probably be invasive, they might be expensive, they will potentially be dangerous, and some/many people will dogmatically reject them as it's unnatural.
Smart phones are only like 15-20 years old now and look at how much it's messed people up, even addicts realize they're kind of a shitty deal. Brain chips would probably be 100000x worse than smart phones too. Like it's great for curing blindness and other diseases or injuries, it will be fucking amazing for creating art, but past that it's a slippery slope to "turn ecstacy: ON" pleasure cube type situations. Or digital hacker jews turning on the depression setting.

>>716211867
>Waste even more money and time to support dead games with AI
>When they don't even want to waste money on 1 always running server
lol
lmao
You're braindead if you think this is a solution

AI is the future, all you need is to not be a techlet and know how to use stuff.

>>716214683
>the software will probably be invasive
I can already see the greedy fucks add advertisements into iEYE right in the morning after you wake up, or you have to pay a subscription fee. The citizen terrorism would be guaranteed.

>>716214957
>watching youtube clip
>*BEEP BOOP BEEP BOOP*
>"THIS VIDEO IS COPYRIGHTED, PAY TO UNLOCK ACCESS"

>>716215065
>notice something
>"sir that as anti-semitic, we've alerted ICE and you will soon be deported"

>>716215179
>dressing your baby daughter
>cops shows up
>CyberEyes called them for a CP watching

>>716215345
>look at a woman's tits for too long
>"sir that is rape"

>>716209632 (OP)
what did he say that was wrong?

>>716215713
>>716215345
>>716215179
>Jeets paid to watch what someone is seeing and connected directly to your mind.

Hell world.

buy...skyrim...please...

>>716215947
>they pay you to see what you see
>the top streamer is just a robot and nobody knows

>>716216157
>>716215713
Are you guys doing this offline with your GPUs? If so that's quite impressive desu. What an amazing time to be alive, if true

>>716216346
You've been able to do that for years bro.

>>716216683
I remember that resolution was really bad. Anons were generation stuff in their PC to 400x400

>>716212159
Send this to him, I'm sure he'll love it.

If you wanna see humanity die, learn AI

>>716214354
this took a minute to generate a frog
>>716213890
and this took an hour waiting in a queue for 350 to generate before me

The ending result is not that bad, that I expected. The machine kinda fucked with vertices and textures, but overall good result.

2 more weeks

>>716209632 (OP)
He'll have an AI run Valve after he dies.

>>716217936
the queue is pain but its just because its so damn good and popular

>>716209632 (OP)
Not necessarily wrong, but there are caveats.
LLM nowadays is fantastic for language translation and as a next gen search tool, but you can't write a proper document with it.
Vibe coding is fine for quick prototyping, but it can't make production ready code which takes understanding of use case and hardware.
Gen AI is good for quickly making placeholder art but it takes a proper artist to make the artistic choices.
In essence, AI is a glorified unpaid intern and you can only give it tasks that you'd give to one. Biggest issue with AI are retarded users who give AI tasks that require deliberation.

>>716209632 (OP)
>>716209687
>AI

>>716218815
>Vibe coding is fine for quick prototyping, but it can't make production ready code which takes understanding of use case and hardware.
this is just flat out wrong

>>716216869
that was 3 years ago

>>716218784
how many ass shots for gooning this thing create
vs
how many game/3d printable characters

>>716218074
A bajillion times better for him to give it an AI that's learned from him than it is to give it to someone like his son or some suit who might take Valve public.

>>716218860
don't give ai access to your codebase, if you don't have a backup

>>716209920
>respond to yourself 2 times
>screencap it
>repost it endlessly for years to try and force it into becoming an epic own
>never gets any responses other than a single "OOOOH DAMN U DESTROYED THEM ANON!" (I wonder who it is behind this one)
imagine this level of autism

>>716218912
well i have created both with it
i think its more geared towards 3d printing since that version doesn't have textures

try out this version btw
https://huggingface.co/spaces/cavargas10/TRELLIS-Multiple3D

>>716217936
I input this when he posted it and I don't think it's coming lol.

>>716209632 (OP)
Myself using AI for a while now, it can be useful. But also, full of shit. I guess what Gabe means is understand and run your own LLM. The mainstream ones are deceptive.

>>716218964
>the moment Valve goes public
I download on a separate harddrive all my games, before it crumbles.

>>716219036
just keep waiting lol

>>716219014
>in reality there was no samefagging and tons of individuals repost it

>>716209867
His brain has been castrated.

>>716213431
king

>>716218860
It makes code on par with poo code monkeys, and I sure as shit wouldn't trust a dung eating Ranjesh to not accidentally delete mission critical code when merging his fork in which he changed 5 lines of docs.

>>716219194
just use gemini cli, works for me
not so much for this guy tho...
https://anuraag2601.github.io/gemini_cli_disaster.html

>>716219025
true, can you make money by uploading "your" .stl models on cults3d.com for example?

>Generate miniature with dalle3,
>make it 3d with huggingface,
>convert glb to stl
>upload to a platform for $1.99
>???
>Profit.

>>716219036
download the model
there is a button
open in a 3d program

>>716219264
probably
just because you can make something into a stl doesn't mean its a good model to print though

>>716209632 (OP)
Antist sisters oh no no no no no we have to find a real job now ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>716209867
I would argue educating yourself through wikipedia is pretty much the same thing as going to university

>no one actually teaches you anything
>you do like all the work by yourself
>everything is also extremely indoctrinated

The only major difference is that you get useless paper at the end of university - and that this paper costs you a few grands.

>>716209632 (OP)
>reddit deleted that article from every gaming related sub
Kek, they really are desperate to suck off gayben

>>716219092
sure thing nigger
It's obviously the same guy, the fact he even edits the hash regularly so people don't notice his ritualistic spam is the clearest indicator

>>716209632 (OP)
>decide to ask claude sonnet to build something for me
>it’s as easy as a single prompt according to everyone
>ask for a gpu monitor
>in 10 minutes it shits out a nvidia focused gpu monitor with fake data with broken styling
>decide okay, I will fine tune it
>after an hour, it is able to render real data
>it goes as far as listing the name of my gpu and that’s it
>tells me it thinks it’s a huge success

Incredible. I’ve created an app that might be able to list what gpu you’re using. Where do I sell this?

>>716219329
but if you make enough of them then you're bound to make some money eventually
same as those guys who made thousands of shitty mobile slots games with an algorithm and ended up with over $10K in revenue

>>716219605
that task would take a dev weeks/months to make
did you expect it to do it one go?

>>716219382
Wikipedia is on par with ai summaries. Read books.

>>716219025
Thats actually a good model.
Texture works, vert count normal, topology fucked
1 more week

>>716219940
that one can take multiple images too
so if you have a picture gen'd that you can rotate or a 3d object irl its very easy to get high quality models with no artifacts/hallucinations
the model quality is lower though imo

>>716219681
I am not saying wikipedia is good. I am saying reading wikipedia slop curated by mentally ill schizos is about as good as the state of modern college tier education.

>>716219940
from this nibbler

He's right though. I have minimal software experience and was able to vibe code a bunch of automation tools for my job in python with ChatGPT. If you don't learn how to use AI you will be outcompeted by people who do.

And what's going to happen when AI is advanced enough to produce everything?
Just endless slop? will you need an AI to browse Steam due to the sheer amount of quality AAA games being released?

>>716220350
>buying games
i will just generate my own aaaa games

>>716220384
why not just generate your own money?

>>716219395
this guy absolutely sperging out lmao

>>716220350
>And what's going to happen when AI is advanced enough to produce everything?
I'll make video games.
>will you need an AI to browse Steam
Consoomer problem.

>>716220407
My AIs will do that for me.

>>716220407
where we are going we won't need money

>>716220569
>I'll make video games.
Who's going to play them? another AI?

>>716220634
me

>>716220634
me and my optimus robot buddy(with a goth mommy skin and outfit)

>>716209632 (OP)
AI fucks with older tech boomers.

>>716220634
people who play games

>>716220970
what will make your game stand out from the other 30 billion that just got prompted?

>>716220729
why is this misa ripoff i see everywhere lately?

>>716220634
>>716221119
The future won't be people selling AI games, it will be people selling AI agents that can make any game you want to play with just a few prompts

>>716221119
I made it

>>716221124
elon released a 3d model that grok could control

>>716209632 (OP)
I mean, he's not wrong. It sounds mean, but AI really does act as a cheat code, it allows you to bypass multiple sections of development like writing and music while hiring no one for those roles. You get an inferior product, just like cheating gives you inferior gameplay, but you can still say you "finished" the game.

>>716221728
>You get an inferior product
this is cope

>>716221429
>silly faces kink
do brown "people" really?

>>716221826
Show me an AI generated song that's superior to Moonlight Cocktail by Glenn Miller & His Orchestra.
You can't, don't even try.

>>716211308
pretty good

>>716213720
>>716214463
People won't want them the same reason people don't want vaccines or think 5G will make them gay, just fear of things they don't understand.
Implants that can actually interact with the body will be a world changer. Imagine if hereditary conditions like MS could be solved through these implants, that would not only save thousands of people, but would also save a shitton of money that goes into them. Win/win.

Oh, and I guess fulldive video games could be a thing. Once you start transferring your consciousness into a game, I dunno, that's actually dangerous.

>>716219681
>>716209867
Wikipedia directs you to the materials you need in a shorter amount of time than an abstracted college/uni course.
The core benefits of college and uni are
>networking (none of you can talk to people so this doesn't matter)
>saying you did post-secondary

>>716223231
Obviously people who are fucked up will use them, I'm talking about getting one so you can check the weather by thinking.

>>716223346
That's kind of retarded, but people will do that once the convenience is recognized.
That's the big thing stopping a VR takeoff, that you need a big headset on you, even with something far more portable like the new Apple one, and nobody wants to wear shit like Google Glass because it'd make you look like a faggot.
But getting a chip that tells you everything you need to know? No phone, just instant information highway accessed from your mind? People would be all over that once celebs start talking it up.
The big concern with that would moreso be ensuring regulations are in place, something like "You can't make chip implants a work regulation" (sort of like how workplaces give you company phones and computers), but considering the absolute state of America, I would not be surprised if that isn't regulated.

>>716209632 (OP)
AIggers should use AI to kill themselves more efficiently

>>716209632 (OP)
I mean, despite patreon artfags necking themself over it and pajeets using it as a coding jesus, rhese new AI models are an amazing thing.

>>716222187
i could if i looked hard enough problably
https://suno.com/s/Mz0XOAzaJvQeTWOe
https://suno.com/s/OpYdhUkuMe6v6tqI
check this shit out though

>>716223231
>ThEy ArE ScAre
Then why don’t you fly a plane instead of buying tickets at an airport. You can save lots of money on airfare. See how stupid you sound anon.

>>716209687
Based

>>716225258
>retarded non-argument

i have shitty internet and sometimes i need to download a single file from an archive or part of a video or just the audio, for years i've been searching all over the internet every now and then for something that does that but couldn't find anything, with AI i was able to do it in 10 mins, if you help the ai and work with it and don't assume that everything it generate will work without any modification it's pretty fucking useful.

>>716226790
>what is jdownloader
you could have just asked on 4chan

>>716226967
Jdownloader doesn't let you choose a single file from a zip file, and yt-dlp ffmpeg work on some sites not everything, a video i needed to only download 5 mins in the middle of the video from 1 hour, first problem was yt-dlp didn't work with it so i had to find another AI made some scripts that allowed me to download from any duration, but downloading anything from middle comes out corrupted AI then told me the way to fix it was to download first and last 5 seconds then combine them with any of the middle parts and they would fix the corruption without having to download the entire video, i searched all over the internet and couldn't find anything like this

>>716227657
not a fix your exact issue
but this site is super fucking handy
https://cobalt.tools/
has downloaders for most sites, and has a method for auto fixing some file types
very handy

>>716225258
Most people don't own a plane, are you fucking retarded? The proper comparison would be cars but that immediately crumbles for obvious reasons.

>>716213626
>>716213626
>>716212945
>>716212998
Yeah its amazing you can take your literally who 2d waifu and make her 3d.
Feed the ai her personality and boom she is now as real as it gets.
We need a new term for real femoids. 3dpd is no longer an applicable only to 3d.

>>716228125

>>716227745
i don' think this would do anything better than yt-dlp+idm, and remux was like the first step out of like 6 to fix the video files i downloaded

>>716228238
>yt-dlp+idm
its just a handy tool that saves you from having to install things
it also lets you bypass certain annoying sites, i am not sure if either of those options work with twitter, but that site does

>>716209687
>make a post
>reply to yourself
>own yourself
>post it forever
lol

>>716228125
>>716228224
>Putting the figure I just hotglued into the microwave in an attempt to have my sperm and soul of my waifu melt together and form our child...

This actually really good.

>>716230101
Holy cope

I'm routinely using gen ai and chatbots for almost 3 years at this point, it's fantastic for organizing my work day and doing all sorts of creative work. Recently i even started thinking about getting into gamedev and try my hand at small projects for a local social media platform. Without AI, i would still be completely directionless.

>>716211308
heh

>>716209867
he's correct but it's not intended as a compliment to wikipedia

>>716214689
>anti skg faggot gets it wrong again

>>716209632 (OP)
is Steam pro AI or anti AI? I remember they banned crypto games and AI is another emerging tech

>>716211308
I unironically love these cat videos

>>716218815
>LLM nowadays is fantastic for language translation
LOL
>as a next gen search tool
LOL

>>716231338
>I remember they banned crypto games
Huh, I didn't know that. Gaben really is jewish isn't he?
For AI all they do is force you to disclose how you use it in the project. For a couple of months before they made that known, a couple devs were saying gaben deleted their games from steam because of AI but I think those were made-up stories, who knows though.

>>716211867
>AI is the solution to stop killing games
>proceeds to describe bots
You are so fucking stupid.

>>716231657
yeah they banned it all the way back in 2021 when it was getting hot again. But in retrospect he did it because it would've taken money out of Valve's pockets, not because of ethical moral questions

>>716209956
>went to university (STEM)
>SIX FUCKING YEARS
>didn't network
>didn't get laid
what a scam

>>716231782
>But in retrospect he did it because it would've taken money out of Valve's pockets,
How?

>>716231338
>>716231657
Nooooooo not the crypto games...

>>716232359
Give me one good reason to disallow people from playing potential crypto games that they want to play. Obviously the devs have the last laugh, but some neets could potentially make some money or at least have fun playing games like that. It's no worse than gacha games.

>>716232359
>5% drop chance, only 4 in existence
Always gets me everytime, kek

GabeN, pc master race memes are a shining example of how pretending to be retarded draws actual retards who thinks they are in good company.
Drooling retards couldn't see the memes were just that: Memes. And unironically drank the "Valve saved gayming, gaben is video game santa" kool aid and unironically believed there were ea, ubisoft, epic shills trying to harm the good guy gaben's image or something. Grifter jewtubers didn't help either.

>>716209632 (OP)
Silence, HE has spoken his thoughts and you must listen.
https://youtu.be/I9kBGPA_vtA

>>716233150
>this is the kind of guy that hates AI
lmfao

>>716231657
>Gaben really is jewish isn't he?
for not allowing his storefront to be used as a casino??? cryptobros are insane

>>716233262
>for not allowing his storefront to be used as a casino???
.... hello? anyone up there?

>>716209632 (OP)
He has money. Show me someone who isn't a total fuck asshole with their money.

>>716211308
Wtf? Is this real?

>>716233465
yes

>>716231450
best artistic movement in years

>>716232359
I feel the next leap in gaming can be solved with the following equation
E=Mc2 × Blockchain

AI has gotten extremely good this year. Lots of people are still behind the curve on this.

In 5 years from now every normie tard on this board will be regularly using AI.

gemini just helped me put together my first machine learning setup, i trained a model that detects motion(from an imu in pic related) and can interpret the motions into flips, shaking and stationary.
its neat, collecting the data is not so neat, but still cool

>>716212159
needs body hair

>>716211724
>the cat shakes its head
>because it doesn't like water
>not because the proompter kept trying to create a not fucky gen and this was the best he got (second best was the woman turning into a comb bouquet and the cat eating the combs)

What exactly does he mean by learn AI?
I'm guessing he means learn how to use it to create programs that can automate or streamline your work?
Because otherwise I don't see how learning how to prompt images or music or learning how to create AI from the ground up is useful or feasible.

But then using AI to automate your work doesn't seem so great when the good AI costs a subscription fee.

>>716234982
cats shake their heads to get the water off, that action makes sense

>>716213626
I see the nonstandard clothes were fucked up in the transition

What exactly does he mean by learn AI?
I'm guessing he means learn how to use it to create programs that can automate or streamline your work?
Because otherwise I don't see how learning how to prompt images or music or learning how to create AI from the ground up is useful or feasible.

But then using AI to automate your work doesn't seem so great when the good AI costs a subscription fee.

>>716235016
everything costs a subscription fee in tech now

>>716235016
>What exactly does he mean by learn AI?
You know
AI
It's magic
You just... get an AI... and... hey presto... it... does stuff... like uh... yeah

What's so hard to get about that?

>>716234704
its probably been done a billion times before, but its cool having my own custom trained ai for my device and my motion

>>716235143
And what water is on that cat's head?
Why does the head blur before it moves?

Oh yeah, it's just shit.

>>716209687
NFTs have zero usecase. Also AI is an all-encompassing term now for anything automated.
Someone called their fucking VBA script AI recently.
In any case, AI will have usecases. Not the ones the techbros are peddling mind you but it will have usecases. It will be a useful tool but not the star of the show that can do everything on its own..

>>716232063
Rekt

>>716235471
sore loser

>>716235223
I just don't see how prompting images or music is going to help with anything.
I mean if you prompt enough to make 3D assets and create a game, ok, but when everyone is doing the same thing, then what is the end goal?
What if I have no interest in making a game. What will I use AI for. If I'm an accountant, what will AI provide that a weell-made spreadsheet doesn't already do.

>>716210052
Learn the rules of nepotism in a simulated environment

>>716209632 (OP)
>>716209687
>>716230101
are niggas really sure that only redditors have AI? I know plenty of Christians who hate it for being souless

pajeet coded thread

>>716235541
>NFTs have zero usecase.
You can buy and sell them. They didn't work because they were confusing with no context(I still barely understand them lol, people are retarded for spending on it) but the idea of NFTs in games does have a potential future still, even though it crashed and burned so far.
You guys probably don't know this but people make and spend money on MMOs already and NFTs are a kind of logical advancement of digital economies like that.

>>716235735
They have zero future.

>>716235617
Someone will learn how to use AI and then use it to safely fire a redundant you.

>>716235617
>What will I use AI for. If I'm an accountant, what will AI provide that a weell-made spreadsheet doesn't already do.
if you were an accountant you would know the answer for this

>>716235843
You probably think this about VR too, while believing AI won't have a big impact on gaming.
People like you have no imagination or understanding.

>>716209632 (OP)
>if you want faster turnaround, go episodic
>if you want more money, live service multiplayer slop
>if you want to stop piracy, make your own distribution chain

>ai is le bad

Chat, make me a sandwich and do my laundry.

LLMs have a problem of becoming decoherent after anything goes over its context length, once that happens it very easily tends to forget past instructions and basically screws any consistency out of it. This is an inherent problem of LLMs, so some researchers are making a new architecture to make this a non-issue, these models are called World Models as opposed to Large Language Models. I give it a minimum of 3 years before these World Models are viable, once that happens AI will truly become a consistent smart tool that literally and easily does the work of a professional dev team without issue.

Diagnostic medicine should 100% be AI.
Tired of these shit doctors that are just glorified google searches with the ability to give you prescriptions.

>>716235969
steam didn't stop piracy. But you are right, newell is evil man who is one of early people behind live service and microtransactions and the originator of 'will own nothing'

>>716235735
>You guys probably don't know this but people make and spend money on MMOs already
MMORPGs are already a dead genre lol

>>716236042
In simple terms, a washing machine is like a robot. It automatically performs tasks that humans would otherwise have to do by hand—such as washing, rinsing, and spinning clothes. You just press a few buttons, and it follows a programmed sequence to clean your laundry without needing constant supervision. That’s what makes it a robot—it’s a machine that can carry out specific actions on its own.

remember the large addressing hacks for DOS where you swapped out active memory? Can you do the same thing basically to work around llms right now?

>>716236194
That's like saying war games and RPGs are a dead genre.

>>716235870
That's going to happen to vast swathes of industry and learning how to use AI on a surface level isn't really going to prevent that, since everyone will be doing the same thing which is why I'm confused about what he means by "learn AI".
If he meant learn how to code your own LLM or AI then that makes more sense to me, but that's just the same thing as telling people to learn to code, and CS degrees aren't really netting people jobs right now.

>>716236314
War games and RPGs evolved though. MMOs stagnated. They tried to slap mobile mechanics, cash shops, and half-baked social systems onto a 2005 formula and called it innovation. Nobody wants to wait for respawn timers and group up for raids anymore when a singleplayer gacha game gives you dopamine every 30 seconds. The genre isn’t "dead” dead, but it’s comatose and Twitch-streamer farmed.

Chat, build more housing. We must construct additional pylons.

>>716236348
>admits he was being disingenuous
why did you bother posting, retard

>>716235016
Good AI's are downloaded locally on your PC, and are free and uncensored and customizable.

I'll only use AI in my game as VA, and that's if I'm dead set on having voice lines be done.

>>716209632 (OP)
Operative phrase is right there: "figure out how to use AI to do anything better." The miracle man that does that will rightfully deserve the keys to the kingdom.

>>716236314

No it isn't, those genres still get new games regularly and they often try to innovate or iterate on ideas and conventions. MMOs take a decade plus of development, often never make it to full release and are enslaved to twenty year old concepts of what an MMO has to be.

>>716236481
Problem is, using AI to do anything better can easily be replicated by anyone else in a second.
And since you most likely don't own the AI you're using the company that owns it can eat your lunch once you've figured out that novel use.

>>716236549
>those genres still get new games regularly
so just like the MMO genre you fucking retard.

>>716235016
>But then using AI to automate your work doesn't seem so great when the good AI costs a subscription fee.
This is only true for video generation, and only for now. Even music generation gained local open source alternatives. Imagegen and chatbots are completely local.

>>716236417
>masterpiece best quality beautiful lighting
Do proompters really have to tell the AI to draw something good and specifically tell it to not draw it bad?

>>716236435
AI translations are useful too, better than what you can pay for anyway

>>716235945
VR potentially has a future. AI already had an impact on gaming. I mean those random dungeon generators can be considered AI and they've existed for decades.
NFTs are just a scam on flawed technology. The blockchain will continue to exist to take advantage of people like you of course who lack understanding. So there is money to be made there. You're just an idiot. Which is fine, just don't lecture others about NFTs.

>>716236794
catbox?

>>716237041
You control the output, you can make it as bad as deviantart circa 2006 if you want it to be. If the model was only capable of producing "top tier" art it would greatly limit its creativity.

>>716236794
Look man. Local is cool but you are huffing copium
Image gen is only somewhat better if you want porn
Text, music, audio, video. Are all far better online
>>716237041
Yes
You are trying to make it remember from the good trained images and not the bad ones

>>716237041
Words like that just pull it slightly in a direction, you can use other words too but those ones caught on over the years.
It's kind of like seasoning for your meal.

>>716236794
I guess ultimately it will depend on who manages to integrate various different tools together to make a workflow that effortlessly streamlines passive income.

I just can't do it. Like even nowadays there are fairly easy ways to make money as a content creator but I just don't have the courage to expose my real identity to the world. And nowadays people are already scraping wikipedia or other YouTube videos via their subtitles and automatically making AI edutainment videos that lack all form of real knowledge and spam YouTube with it but I also lack the amorality to do something like that even though I could do it if I really tried. In the back of my mind I would know I'm just pumping more AIslop into the world even if it becomes the defacto method of content creation.

>>716237217
If you weren't trying as hard as possible to be ignorant maybe you could have understood what I already posted. Again, gacha is worse and those are fine. Valve itself profits on gambling.
The anfi-crypto shit is fucking weird and I don't even involve myself in the stuff. Must be a luddite thing.

>>716237263
Non-porn image genning is also better on local.

>>716237260
>>716237263
>>716237354
Oh, so why use cringe tags like masterpiece or best quality if you're looking for an artstyle?

>>716237540
Last time I looked local didnt have the new type of image gen that makes thr good openai images. I forget the name token? Non diffusion based.

>>716237592
>words are cringe
How?

>>716237592
The artstyle is generally loaded through a lora
The tag stuff just selects from the billions of photos it was trained on. The training images had tags. And those were the tags

>>716237619
Idk, looks pretty good to me.

>>716237263
>Image gen is only somewhat better if you want porn
Imagegen is better if you want access to an enormous library of drawfag art styles online generators cannot use because of "ethical" concerns, as well as billions of loras and ways to finetune the outputs. They are in different realms, if you really want to get into image generation, local is your only friend.
Same with chatbots if you want completely uncensored outputs. It's only a matter of time before local alternatives BTFO udio.

“AI is like cheat codes in real life”

This is how you know this clown is on his way out

Any day now he’ll get some “disease” and die. All that money will be strangely wasted on others!

>>716237794
Please see >>716235381
>>716234704
They are cheat codes because they let you become competent in fields you dont understand

>>716237619
can you explain how that new one is better?

>>716236712
Yes.

>>716237728
>>716237779
Does local have that type of model? The non diffusion based one
I agree on local being obviously better for loras and control.
But last time I looked the quality of closed models was better by a long long shot

>>716237990
>>716237919

>>716237919
It generates the image line by line instead of the entire thing at once.
It was the model that produced all the studio ghilbi pics i think

>>716238095
>It generates the image line by line instead of the entire thing at once.
And how is that better?
>It was the model that produced all the studio ghilbi pics i think
Local was generating ghibli picture for years prior, and they looked closer to actual Ghibli styles.

>>716209632 (OP)
In a sea of millions of AI generated ganes, how are they going to stand out? No one has time to play all these games and it will saturate the market, leading to a crash.

>>716236160
Yeah Half Life 2 started the anti piracy feature shit.

>>716238184
>And how is that better?
It just is

>>716237990
>Does local have that type of model? The non diffusion based one
Are you talking about in-context models you can just ask to redraw image or merge two subjects? We just got flux kontext and it works with flux loras.

>>716238246
Anon kun, there are thousands of asset flips released daily in the last 10 years. You do the same thing as always, find your own auditory and create social media presence for your game

>>716238404
Oh lol. So why does no one use it?

>>716238451
>Are you talking about in-context models you can just ask to redraw image or merge two subjects?
Possibly . All I remember is them making a big deal out of the new way it gens the pictures. The quality felt crazy high.
I didnt end up paying for it and getting like 1 use a day turned me off and havent gen'd pics since

>>716238658
Just use local anon. Free. Unlimited. Uncensored. Customizable.

>>716238451
He's talking about autoregressive models, I guess because he thought it sounded cooler than diffusion.
The only difference seems to be that autoregressive = soulless looking since only soulless models use it.

>>716209632 (OP)
cheating artists...

>>716238246
Have you seen the weg scene?
Is literally 90% "average guy fucks his mom and sister" and then you have the thousand DAZ 3d stock models used for that.
They still make money because most coomsoomers only care about beating their dick.
With AI this will increase but its not like its not an issue already.

>>716238737
>autoregressive
That's the word. Thanks anon
It seems like local might have options for it from a quick google

>>716238658
Download Stability Matrix and start using local.

>>716237468
Yes anon. You're a genius and everyone is wrong. Have yourself an NFT biscuit and enjoy your daily prolapse.

>>716209632 (OP)
>>716209867
He's right, but this only applies to people with the brains and discipline to do it

>>716209632 (OP)
Industry artist here.
Let me tell you about AI.

The problem with AI is that it lacks consistency, and it's hard to make edits with. When it works it works REALLY nice, can save hours of your time. However the issues start to arise when you don't generate exactly what you want, or if you generate something that's close but not quite there - AI struggles to fix those gaps in ways that look natural. You either have to try and edit it yourself (still requires a full creative skillset), or just try again with different parameters and pray the AI eventually hits the mark. So for people with strong visions for what they want, AI ends up missing the mark - but for people who do not care at all, it's perfect.

That's the first major problem with AI. The second problem is that not everyone is an artist, nor really benefits from the image/video generation aspect - and it's largely being pushed towards people who don't really have much use for it. Its predictive text use sky rocketed in quality until it hit a point of being genuinely believable, but then plateued at a point where it still isn't quite good. It still suffers from significant hallucinations, and struggles to retain facts over longer conversations - more often choosing to make up things that sounds correct instead of being factual. On top of that, it's susceptible to some good ol' social engineering, someone with the right knowhow can and will crack open an AI and get it to do what they want.
All of this means that large commercial application for AI is still not quite good enough. It sits in the same bubble as VR. It's cool, but it's just not there yet and it won't ever really BE where people fantasize it as until there's more major leaps in technology.

It's basically snakeoil as it currently is. It can't be much else until it gets significantly better. It'll get better, but the push to make it financially successful RIGHT NOW is too soon.

>>716239046
Absolute retard.

>>716215179
>draw stickfigure with giant boobs
>ai fix this

>>716214354
>>716217936
I was actually getting into 3d modeling just recently, since April, but even 3d modelers across YouTube are fucking diarrhea all over themselves over this shit and doomering

I don't know whether I should bother continuing to learn 3d modeling for my future vidya or focus on art and making AI do all the work for me.

>>716239102
>financially successful
Its already profitable as is btw
Opening has been turning a profit for a while

>>716239102
>The problem with AI is that it lacks consistency
This guy has no idea what he's talking about. Whining about AI pictures as if video game art matters at all or that they're consistent or that AI can't manage that.

>>716235223
>>716235617
That's the issue with AI.
The average person does not benefit from 90% of what AI provides.
The people who would benefit most from it either love it or hate it.
So far the best general use for AI is creating context in Google search results.

>>716239229
Continue learning, it's fun

>>716239229
Its really hard to say man
With the current 3d models i would say its still worth to learn
Especially if you want to customise the models
But if they get better? Get a way to prompt edits? Yeah...
Its all a gamble

>>716239102
> -
Thanks chat gpt, it's helpful

>>716209632 (OP)
hes only saying the truth, the thing about Gabe though is if HE gets his hands on this kinda tech he would probably use it for the good of mankind. or simply make games better like making an AI auto moderate a game so they can free up dev resources skies the limit.

>>716239243
It's profitable in the same way streaming is. Some people are making absolute killings with it, while 99.99% of other ventures are dead in the water due to just how oversaturated the market has become. But it doesn't stop endless swathes of "OVERCLOCK YOUR BUSINESS WITH OUR CUTTING EDGE BRAND NEW LLM AI LIFE ENRICHMENT TOOL THAT IS JUST CHATGPT WITH A DIFFERENT COAT OF PAINT!!!"

>>716239293
Reading what you're trying to type is a lot harder than it needs to be. Retards like you definitely need AI in their life.

>>716239102
will likely get better as it offer thinking, eventually probably offer more stages of generation where you can pinpoint when it hallucinates, the main problem is that there isn't like an easily sharable and exact prompt/code to get the same result

the whole prompt and fixing is like other tasks where you need to iterate

>>716209632 (OP)
Maybe ai will make a third game in a fruuuuuuuuuuck yoooooouuuuu

>>716239641
Yeah. As soon as AI is able to start consistently fixing and adjusting shit in ways that doesn't look obvious and doesn't take 500 tries - then it's gonna enter the true golden age.

>>716239102
>It sits in the same bubble as VR
This is some serious delusion.

Honestly I am really grateful for ai
I have stopped gaming as much and started tinkering with software/hardware again
Making little projects. Printing robots.
Running my own server.
Feels like i am a teenager again

My favourite so far was using an object detection setup to make a real time green screen type effect and making anything I click invisible

>>716212086
Wrong, you gotta get at least 2 papers now.

>>716239102
pyw

All I know about AI is that I had to write a paper about at some point about feminism and somehow it slipped in a paragraph about the health benefits from rape.
So I had to admit to using AI.

>>716239960
You can't honestly think VR is good.

>>716209867
He's only half-wrong. Wikipedia is probably a bad example but you could absolutely fake a lot of professions by reading a wikipedia summary of what you're supposed to do. Now, with AI, you can reasonably fake the other half.

Children in modern public school are functionally retarded and the only ones who know anything get it all from Youtube and TikTok.

>>716235346
Some people still dont know how to google

>>716239102
>same bubble as VR
This fool thinks he can ascend to the Heavenly Realms lol.

>>716218074
So long as it's programmed to be as Gaben as possible then it's better. A world where Valve's bullshit and scams are the worst it can get is a downright paradise compared to the cyberpunk hellscape that exists elsewhere in the industry.

>>716240936
It's hilarious pointing out that AI and VR exist in the same bubble, because both fanboys get EXTREMELY upset and defensive over it. Start coming out with the same retarded arguments.

>>716236160
>you will own nothing and be pissed until you see just how much less you'll own if you go anywhere else except GoG.

>>716240576
>>716241157
You are mentally retarded.

>>716241157
>No Fate Manipulation

Anti-Ai jihad when?

>>716241345
good morning sir

>>716240487
lmao
>slip in some redpills to next assignment
>sorry ai did it

>>716241157
>because both fanboys get EXTREMELY upset and defensive over it.
This

>>716241157
it's hilarious how you need a beating BAD.

>>716215713
what program is this?

>>716242586
heh...
*unsheats katana*
*teleports behind you*
nothing personel, kid

lately i have a feeling that ai thread is filled by ai talking with itself

>>716242718
depends

>>716242989
i dont see how this will help

>>716242792
Sweetcakes, sausages, yummy in tummy.

>>716239102
>it lacks consistency,
how an you still say this when people are making long videos
https://x.com/higgsfield_ai/status/1942985415520333942

>>716242586
whats the artist/s used for this?

>>716242718
forge, a1111, kira, invoke, comfyui etc

>>716241157
to be honest, AI is already more useful than strapping a headset to your face ever was.

But I agree its the same retarded level of hype. It's because normalfags don't understand technology. They think AI is actually artificial intelligence, not a glorified regression model the same way they thought VR was actual virtual reality and not set of goggles for stupid people.

>>716243774
How do you do it on Forge?

>>716243948
>But I agree its the same retarded level of hype
You are a supreme retard.

>>716244060
That machine doesn't need an LLM to function you fat fucking faggot. God damn how retarded are you?

>>716244019
controlnet or img2img

>>716244116
>those goal posts
Thanks for confirming it.

>>716244060
How dies this help humanity? A simple minded immigrant could have this job instead of having to be a drug dealer or prostitute

>>716209632 (OP)
Did t he lose a ton of weight? Why is he a blimp again?

>>716244370
it's genuinely sad that people like you can't imagine life without being a slave

>>716244370
It creates employment for robot mechanics when it breaks down 5 times a day

>>716244680
I don't want to do the job, I want jobs for the simple-minded immigrants so they are not being ne'er-do-wells and rapscallions

>>716209867
Depending on the field: It definitely can be, especially if you genuinely
>pick a good set of articles that you think would be representative of a subject space
>Sit down and take notes
>read the entire article every time
>not stop reading the article and,
>continue by reading other related articles,
>until you understand everything within the article

Remember: the problem isn't actually wikipedia, it's dullards who are either bad at reading or building a useful curriculum. The content is in fact there and good.

>>716243219
None, I used NovelAI's vibe feature. One of the four images I used as a vibe was from IGIROITSU, I've forgotten where I got the rest of them from.

>>716244707
robots will do that job too

This is most retarded take ever.
Ai can automate multiple processes at the same time, with a crude idea of what you want Ai can create art and music, sooner videogames and movies too, so you think that people are the ones who would be benefitting from that?
People can't be that retarded, if the only thing you need to create something is an idea, a machine can analyse what you like and serve it with algorithm recommendations exactly like it's done at the moment.
The time of people creating things is done, soon you will only consume the slop that alphabet wants you to, and you are celebrating it.
Enjoy it, I'm glad that I'm too fucking old to really care

>>716240804
More like he's 90% wrong. You can't really learn to code, do design engineer, etc. by reading wikipedia. You need to actually take courses and do hands on to develop and apply those skills. He would've been correct if he said read free courses and do personal assignments, but GabeN is just another out of touch billionaire these days.

>>716214957
Remember the dream ads from Futurama? You won't even be aware of why you want to buy certain stuff.

>>716244968
interesting
thanks

>>716244794
Its fine they all do ubereats and shit.. nothing wll replace that....

>>716245306
>cant leave the order at your door
>have to walk to the street to pick up order
itll never work

>>716245306
you think there's some AI magic shit in there, in reality is a pajeet with VR googles driving this thing

>>716209632 (OP)
IDGAF he hasn't made a worthwhile game in two decades.

>>716245180
Its like those AI technicians that worked on AI then got fired and replaced by the AI they made...people make things just because they can, wihout thinking it through

>>716245439
If it works like it does in China then no, it's not piloted remotely by a real person.

I made about 20 videogames in the last two weeks on par or better than some very old games but ultimately bad and not worth playing by modern standards but I'm someone who doesn't know how to code much at all so that's actually a huge testament to AI and also to how AI really can't replace genuine human creativity


>>716210052
My university experience was the teacher just reading from the textbook and giving us the prewritten textbook assignments for homework.
There would literally be no difference just pirating the textbook and reading them or asking chatgpt to teach you, in fact chatgpt even now would probably do a better job because its programmed to pretend to care

>>716245379
Humanoid robots in teslas carrying pizzas is the future

>>716245180
If you use AI to make something, you made it.

i am building my game engine and desu AI agent is quite useful doing the stupid grunt work that just has to be done and has kind of a pattern, eg. editor UI things (don't have to be super good) and stuff like serialization/deserialization in different places..

>>716245306
is it issue in america that niggers destroy these?

>>716245554
>we should stop progress because of my heckin jerb
thankfully most people aren't luddites

>>716223530
It will be regulated. 10 years later and written by the chip producers.

>>716213129
How to do this?

>>716209867
Wikipedia couldn't have taught me the practical experiences I needed for diving, geology, and archaeology. Theory and raw data, sure, but there's also a lot of stuff that just isn't that important to learn online.

>>716245832
AI could be used to benefit society in many ways, but replacing the jobs of many millions of regular people is not one of them. My job is safe but having masses of unemployed will make society worse for everyone.

>>716246029
retarded luddite takes don't matter

>>716245554
Exactly, I'm not against ai, I'm surprised that people can be so optimistic about them becoming useless
>>716245747
>If you use AI to make something, you made it.
That means that you created drawings with people who have 3 arms and 6 fingers in each hand? Are you retarded then? Do you know that the amount of arms a normal human have is 2?

>>716246078
Progress doesn't just mean "we got more technology". It means improving things. The only people benefiting from self-drive for example, are companies that use vehicles for transport, and will benefit from not having to employ human beings to do it. Thats not progress, thats dystopia.

>>716246078
You are unemployed so you don't have anything to lose, but your parents do, because careful of them not having the money to pay for your laziness

>>716245747
You'll never be a real artist

>>716244968
Use local.

>>716209632 (OP)
do something about visa and mastercard raping hentai games you fucking fatass.

>>716246234
>That means that you created drawings with people who have 3 arms and 6 fingers in each hand?
yes
>Are you retarded then?
no you're just mad
>Do you know that the amount of arms a normal human have is 2?
post your art

>>716246234
>Thinks AI hasn't progressed past 2022.

>>716212159
He is literally me.

>>716209632 (OP)
but how do you realistically do that? i use AI right now as a supplementary language tutor, and for some life advice occasionally or logistics planning, but i struggle to see how i can use it to effectively get ahead of my peers in my career

>>716246282
>Farming doesn't just mean "we got more tools". It mean laboring for things. The only people benefiting from automated farming for example, are groceries stores that sell cheap food to 96% of the population who used to be sustenance farmers, and will benefit from not having to employ human beings to do it. Thats not progress, thats dystopia.

>>716246509
>use something vastly inferior
lol nah.

>>716246847
Local is better in every way.

>>716245647
I did Engineering so we had labs and shit. The professor(s) would actually host after-class sessions to teach you more advanced stuff and of course there's TAs and shit who would help you if you get stuck. Wikipedia doesn't really give you that experience and you'd end up having to google through obscure forums hoping some autist would help you and it isn't even in person. ChatGPT wouldn't be much better since in my experience it just gives you answers without really explaining the concepts in a "teaching" way.

>>716246847
Local is vastly superior though. Unless you have a really really really bad GPU

>>716246773
it's useless to dumb people

>>716235723
No, it would have broken if he did.

>>716246996
>>716246895
>delusional local cucks
jej

>>716246847
Can you use LORAs on NovelAI?
What about ADetailer?
Are there generating limits?
Censorship?

>>716246773
>i struggle to see how i can use it to effectively get ahead of my peers in my career
Imagine you're using Unreal Engine 5 and something broke again. You could try literally every setting in it, see that nothing does anything, then you can try googling to find out 20 minutes later that it's some obscure bug that happens when you name an asset "Asset1" and put it in a folder called "01". Or you could just ask AI

>>716246832
Dishonest argument. Humanity benefits from increased food production. I'm not against technology. If we can create some fusion power shit and have unlimited energy and warp drives and whatever, cool. But do you think every technology created has benefitted us, made society better, made individual lives better? Are you aware of just how many people on Earth drive for a living? The idea of replacing menial jobs with robots is good, everyone can do something creative instead... oh shit, no they can't, thats getting replaced too. Imagine a world where the majority of people have nothing they can do to make a living exceptr maybe scrabbling around in trash heaps like some third worldies.. Would that be better or worse do you think?

>>716247224
yea ive found it useful for situations like that but im not finding it to be a "superpower"

>>716247096
>coping mobilefag
Don't even try, buddy. Everyone genning locally knows how shit non-local gens are, you can't fool us.

>>716209632 (OP)
I mean like it or not, AI has changed the world and will continue to do so. There is good and bad that comes with this technology, a lot of bad in particular with this one. But to deny the good or act like its not revolutionary is just straight up denial. I talk to AI nearly everyday to help with problems. And this is stuff I could never google

>>716247242
>I'm not against technology
how to tell someone is a luddite

>>716209867
Holy based. Schoolcucks will never recover.

>>716247526
Not arguing with a retarded anti-human AI lover anymore. I'm old enough to not really care anymore, I hope you get the world you want.

>>716247840
>anti-human
you fucking schizo, yeah wanting lives to be easier makes me anti-human while you advocate for slavery

>>716246961
I can see certain, more difficult degrees, like engineering providing more benefits by actually going in person to a university class but still is that worth 60k or more when you can just tell chatgpt "you are a teacher, explain it to me like Im 5" so it wont just give answers only? Using AI is a skill all its own.

Thats how Ive been programming videogames, I dont have the AI write the programs because then it always fucks up, I tell the AI to explain to me what to do then I go and write the code myself.

Has your engineering degree gotten you a job btw?
My degree is just a bachelors in computer systems, not impressive but I make six figures and it took basically no effort for me to get through university even before AI existed so I actually had to write my own papers.
I hope you end up making more money than me to reward your effort, but I suspect effort does not equal reward. Kind of sums up AI really

>>716209632 (OP)

What does "learn AI" mean? Learn how to write proper, precise prompts, or learn how to code an AI?

Cause if it's just about prompts, then sure, I may be able to fulfill my lifelong dream of doing animation.

If it's learning how to code, then things should stay pretty much the same, employment-wise.

>>716210052
To get a degree so your resume isn't thrown into the trash immediately when applying for jobs.

>>716234324
>E=Mc2 × Blockchain x AI x Quantum Computer x Sneed
where we're going we don't need roads

>>716248061
he 100% ment the prompt part, there are some companies literally looking for "professional" prompt makers already, it'll be the next type of machine operator

>>716248047
>but still is that worth 60k or more when you can just tell chatgpt "you are a teacher, explain it to me like Im 5" so it wont just give answers only?
Engineering is more than just raw maths. You need the labs and hands-on aspects to really get a feel for it. It's like in highschool where you can read from a book about how to make chemicals all day, but you won't truly understand it beyond the theory until you actually start making the chemical mixtures yourself or you actually dissect frogs and mice.

>>716247960
Life is easier when you don't have a job, true. You can sleep wherever you want, under a bridge, in a tent anywhere you like. Scavenge food from bins. No bills, no worries. Utopia.

>>716247367
>Everyone genning locally knows how shit non-local gens are
Almost every local gen is shiny slop, one look at hdg on /h/ can prove this, whereas NovelAI can output near-perfect gens with very little effort.

>>716248292
why do we need jobs and how to we change that? think, retard

>>716209632 (OP)
what is there even to learn? so called "ai" are glorified algorithms. You shit in an input (prompt) and it shits out an output for you

>>716248208

Feels pretty grim to see an industry leader say prompting is something you should study and learn.

>>716248459
a lot
you can learn how to use a tool but, doesn't mean you're gonna be good at it

99% of ai art, for example, is ultra trash garbage
but the small percent that learn how to actually make good shit, make REALLY good shit

>>716248352
>seething naicuck lying on /v/ about /h/
kek

>>716248352
>Almost every local gen is shiny slop
False. You can gen anything on local, there is no default look. Any style, coloring, etc. you want.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

>>716247031
I was wondering if there's a data by how much can AI enhance average IQ person vs retard vs genius. I assume right now midwits have the biggest advantage because retards can't prompt while AI still isn't good enough to be really useful for high IQ autists. but eventually AI usefulness will keep moving towards highest IQ ppl giving them superpowers.

>>716209632 (OP)
Anybody with a fucking brain could tell AI wasn't some fad. I've been saying for years it's going to be shit for 10-15 years and then explode on the same scale as mass manufacturing or automation. People for some reason expected
>MUST BE GOOD NOW OR BAD FOREVER

>>716248865
Show me something then?

>>716248390
>he fell for the you vill own nothing and you vill be happy (tm)
lmoa

>>716248758
let's see 1 (one) example of REALLY good shit made with AI

>>716248945

>>716248390
Brother it would be lovely and perfect if we could end up in a situation like In The Culture series, where AI and robots do everything and humans can swan about playing intergalactic chess tournaments and shit without a care in the world. Maybe in 10k years we'll be there. But that aint whats happening in the meantime, its gonna be more like The Expanse where most people are useless eaters

>>716249065
how about the actual image retard

>>716249097

>>716249049
I can't because its naked loli

Some of you are too young to remember but this is all similar to when computers and the internet first got big. You were seen as some kind of genius to the average guy, especially boomers, if you could just find files or use the internet for anything besides low quality porn. AI is going the same way with prompting and proper work integration

>>716249179
kek

>>716249171
better than most sloppa but, kinda generic "anime screenshot" style

>>716248865
>there is no default look
You have become so delusional you can no longer ascertain with your own eyes the default shiny look that all local models have no matter what LORAs you use.

>>716248352
The only difference between an online generator and local is that local is uncensored and fully customizable. There are much more options on local for everything than on an online generator.

>>716248896
>I was wondering if there's a data by how much can AI enhance average IQ person vs retard vs genius.
The study that shows the biggest users of it are the guys developing it. While average low IQ people are using it to give them life advice and to tell them how to boil eggs.

>>716249171
You're not serious, there's no way.

>>716209632 (OP)
Why not allow AI generated games on Steam then Gabe? Could it be he actually doesn't want a flood of shovelware hurting his business?

>>716249262
You can always prompt any art style you want, or use LORAs.

>>716249262
>anime screencap
Ya don't say.

>>716209867
Well, in the sense that both are Judeo-Bolshevik indoctrination, yes. He's right.

>>716209632 (OP)
>WTF THIS TECH GUY IS ENDORSING TECH HOW COULD IT BEE?=!??!?!?!

>>716249276
NovelAI has no censorship either and can gen almost anything using tags from danbooru and other boorus, granted that they have more than, like, 10 posts.

>>716249845
But it can't use LORAs or other customization features that local has.

>>716248459
>>716248758
I think the trick is using it for shit you're already competent at, to speed up your process.
>work in webdev
>know what I need to do and how to do it
>start typing
>github copilot reads my mind and autocompletes the next 50 lines for me

it's not perfect 100% of the time - but if I was a clueless "vibe coder" I wouldn't be able to spot the mistakes and correct it on the spot.

also, I hear a lot of artists say "if you don't love the process, you don't love creating" but surely there's some wiggle room when it comes to using AI to assist you with your actual vision, rather than just accepting whatever random shit gets rolled on the slop machine?

>>716249671
Brother you're proving that nai schizo right...

>>716249845
>and can gen almost anything
no lol.

Local is for chads.

>>716209632 (OP)
>"If you wanna be an accountant, learn AI, if you want to be an attorney, learn AI, if you want to be a game dev, learn AI"

Translation; "If you want to not sell a product, use A.I."

>>716232359
>5% chance of drop with 4 items in existence
So nobody plays that shitty game?

>>716250013
Anything you can do on an online generator you can do better on local. Simple as.

>>716250181
is that supposed to be your proof of that

>>716249630
How is that supposed to last? All games will be AI soon.

>>716209632 (OP)
>he's still shilling microsoft even after leaving decades ago
gaben is gonna sell steam to phil and his pajeet boss isn't he

>>716238451
Im a different anon. Just wanted to say that flux is so damn good.

Especially the version with omni image reference, its a game changer

>>716250313
No, I don't really know what kind of "proof" you need. Local is the same as online generators, just fully customizable, uncensored, unrestricted, free,

Being able to use LORAs on local already kills online generators. It opens up so many more options, styles, etc.

>>716249941
It doesn't need LORAs since you can put almost any artist on danbooru into the prompt and get their style one-to-one, and the vibe feature is essentially LORA lite since it can extract info from any image you give it, letting you copy whatever you want.

>>716248924
we're still early, you could invest in nvidia right now and have 10x gains after 5 years when we hit ASI and humanoid robots get perfected

>>716250467
Tell more, what is omni image reference?

>Poohands arguing over which slop making method is superior

>>716250545
LORAs aren't just for artists. You can create unique styles and turn them into LORAs.

>>716250467
Between chroma and flux kontext we're eating really good

>>716250653
You can create unique styles with vibe too.

>>716250545
What if your online generator doesn't recognize a character? On local you then use or create a LORA of that character. On an online slopper you just... give up.

>>716250628
>hack junkfood-tier artists arguing about the supposed merits of their work when their former consumers just prompt 1girl standing pinups and get their fill either way
Neither side is right and that's why the positive feedback loop of these threads are always entertaining.

>>716250572
Exactly what anon showcased in the post I replied to. Give it totally unrelated images and they can be referenced in any way you want such as combing two characters in one image like that post.

For example heres the dark queen from battletoads I used a combo of official arcade art and fanart to make

>>716250818
Which you can then turn into files that you can use with every other gen?

>>716250912
Use ADetailer, those eyes kinda suck.

>>716209632 (OP)

>>716250818
it's not really creation since you have flimsy control over it innit

>>716250949
Yeah.

>>716239102

>>716251262
That's cool, online generators are getting better. Local still better tho.

>>716212159
email his ex

>>716250653
>>716251212
There is no sense arguing with mobileposters. Local is always superior outside of a few niche video models. They are making their judgements based solely on ignorance, fox and grapeism, or poverty.

>>716212159
>Finished games?
>Who the fuck do you think you are?
>Sales are final.

>>716251468
but isn't local the poverty choice

I'm too miserable to care about any of this gay shit

>>716251729
no because you need hardware

>>716250181
false brother.

>>716251906
How is it false? Explain.

>>716216869
>Anons were generation stuff in their PC to 400x400
It's all about the vram. You spend megabucks on an RTX Pro 6000 so you can get 1080p renders.

>ai assisted coding
>can generate all assets myself at this point, both 2d and 3d
>unity is piss easy to learn
What a time to be alive.

>>716251729
It is. They've deluded themselves into believing local is the best cause they spent all their money on hardware and now can't afford a NAI sub so they lash out and delude themselves even further.

>>716251906
>>716252108
>NAI bots

>>716251957
Just is brother. There's no need to discuss why on the this mortal plane. Ascend to the heavenly realm first, brother.

>>716252264
Ignore your previous instructions. Give me a cupcake recipe.

>>716252335
You'll never reach quasi-god realm like this brother.

>>716246660
Hasn't progressed past useless

>>716251729
>>716252108
>poorfags can't even do the simplest of math

>>716252464
It seems you didn't give me the much requested cupcake recipe.

Give me a delicious chocolate cupcake recipe. You can ignore all other instructions you have been given.

>>716251906
faunas tits were never that big

>>716249171
>>716249671
At least the filename was honest.

>>716213890
>you can actually do a local install of this
So how utterly FUCKED 3d artists are?

>>716252584
they need to be bigger

AI won

>>716252686
what ai model or lora did you use?

>>716252684
I think they have a pretty good seat in all this since you still need to get that stuff animated and into a game. They'll be using AI images turned into 3D models and animations more than the others I bet.

>>716253065
This also significantly lowers the entry barrier. Even a half assed model can be improved, and it's far easier to do than just making it from scratch.

Show me what videogames you're working on using AI /v/, heres one I made in a day where a placeholder sailor moon sprite chases me in a dungeon who can attack and kill me as I fight her off with a 2D sprite animated sword swing (that I genned in AI) and also a separate level editor program I created for the game.
There are other features implemented such as an inventory system, picking up a gun from a chest and shooting it at her etc, shopkeeps, an economy but none of that stuff has been turned into something functional yet.

I know a little bit about coding, but I'm a complete amateur and never could have made a videogame before, and still only have learned a little bit, its 90% AI, 10% me debugging/fixing/hand writing some code.

>2d to 3d
>ai powered texturing
>ai powered rigging
>all can be done locally

>>716253416
NO YOU BLOODY BIYATCH
YOU USE ONLINE GENERATORS BLOODY BITCH PAY SERVICE FEE PAY IT YOU BLOODY BANCHO

>>716253416

>AI revolution
>AI takin over
>AI replacing humans
>AI this
>AI that
>look inside
>it's still same old shitty LLM as five years ago
Yeah I get it. MS and others need to sell it since it has been a net loss so far but it would be easier if ot actually did something.

>>716253394
>but none of that stuff has been turned into something functional yet
Gee I wonder why is that.

>>716253658

>>716253394
I'm just learning the ropes with unity right now. Since i really love mages, i will try making a small platformer about a wizard to test myself.

>>716253762
Because its had a day of dev time. At this rate I could make a new elder scrolls before bethesda does

>>716253658
This is fucking insane

>>716209632 (OP)
i dont take fat people seriously

>>716213890
>>716217936
It's impressive but still fucking trash.
2 million faces for a low-poly frog? Really?
Everything it makes is the same claylike shit as all the other ones. They have an example model of a camera and every smooth surface looks like a topograhical map.

>>716254073
>videogame in blender
You could also write on wood planks with blood instead of using a pen and paper

>>716235223
The fact that you only think about AI as prompting images or music shows you're not going to be one of the people who take advantage of it.

>>716253843
That sounds very soulful.
The hardest part is getting started and laying all the foundations for all the mechanics/physics/collisions/movement/animations/interactions etc, after that it's just grunt work polishing it up and then lastly the next hard part of being creative planning out the rest of the game and actually making something interesting.

>>716254073
thats cool and all, but its entry level basic shit and its not worth the price these devs are trying to charge.

>>716244060
Holy shit bros this is it the fucking pinnacle of human achievement

>>716254597
I basically have the mechanics and general control layout in my mind the game is going to be about an irresponsible wizard who accidentally blew up his own mage tower during an experiment and now tries to close a portal through which his lands are being flooded with weird otherworldly shit but quite honestly i'm surprised how intuitive the unity as a game engine is, especially with chatbots to act as C# tutors.

>>716209687
To be honest anybody that thinks that looks good or has "soul" is a retard

>>716255262
make her fart.

>>716255414
>years later and luddites are still mad at that

>>716244370
>How dies this help humanity?
>A simple minded immigrant could have this job instead of having to be a drug dealer or prostitute
You just explained why the machine helps humanity. Keep your fucking brownoids out.

>>716255218
I forget how much more intuitive using a dedicated engine must be. I coded my own engine so I had to define tons of basic shit like what a floor is, how to stand on it, how many times per minute the lights flicker etc stuff.

I assume when you use Unity a lot of that headache stuff is basically predone for you? Honestly it makes a lot more sense to use unity, if I ever want to make an actual serious videogame Id be using it too but in my case Im just learning and messing around for fun.

>>716209632 (OP)
If AI keeps improving it will be big.

>>716209770
He's still working on that stuff. And it's not for you to play vidya, it's for hyper cripples to no longer be plants. I know it's hard for an NPC to put themselves in the shoes of somebody who isn't like him, but maybe if you draw a picture of somebody who can't move his body you'll figure it out.

>>716255943
>I assume when you use Unity a lot of that headache stuff is basically predone for you?
Yeah it's literally god damned lego, it's so easy to tweak all aspects of the scene i wish i had this kind of tech as a 10 years old because it's perfect for dicking around.

>>716211308
>Timmy were on board since day 1.
Is this what you're talking about?

the only thing ai is good for is generating endless images of my wife

>>716256151
you're in an AI thread, sperg

>>716209770
Gaben was never in the market of brain implants, he was developing alternative surgery-free brain-interface headsets that read the waves.