Thread 716228053

>competitive game has a non-meta character/build/etc. that makes it fun to play ranked
Name such game and what to pick in them.

Sex With Purrely!!!
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX!!!

Is there a Link 2 like SP that has a pop effect like Baronne?
I can't beat Crystron or Maliss since 90% of my removal banishes.

>>716229206
Azalea

>>716229206
Furhire link 2

Is there a card that can mass recycle quickplay spells from your GY? Like for Spright?

>just wanna be done with the under 5 event
>helment deck my way through it with Cyber Dragon
>(beat a Master 1 btw)
>finally fucking done
>play ranked to unwind
Genuinely one of the worst events they've made.

>>716228136
Kill Yourself!!!
KIIIIIIIILLLLL YOURSEEEEELF!!!

>>716231123
Doubtful

>>716232539
I don't know what they were thinking, there's like 10 decks that don't use any monster over 5 stars and 9 of them are abysmal dogshit without the other shit they also banned. For me it's the worst event they've ever done.

>>716232539
I used phantasm spiral primite because most of its tools are free, you just can't run floodgates, but you can run shit like the tenyi counter trap and good ole torrential tribute. I only lost two games, and that's because the dude went full combo into a 99 negates board.

>all the sweaty Mapiss players ranked up out of plat
>get to break boards all day with Sky Sissy Tenpai
One of the most fun experiences you could have with this game.

I WILL combo for twenty minutes with Dark World
You WILL use Ash on my Dangers
You WILL deck yourself out with Maxx C
I WILL shit out 7 interruptions + on demand handrip
I WILL draw Beginning of the End exactly when I need it
And you will NOT surrender

I play Piranha Plant in SSBU and matchup check all the tryhards online

Archnemeses Produce

>>716234815
Link deck? I have both Sky Striker and Tenpai. Might as well have some fun.

>>716236787
I believe I got it off MDM.
The reason you play Dark Hole instead of Raigeki is that sometimes you want to clear your main monster zones for the Sky Striker stuff.

>>716236945
>Ultimate Slayer
Ugh. The one card here I don't already have

>>716237198
It's one of the most fun ones.
Your opponent can't chain monster effects to it, and you get to get rid of another interaction with N'tss, Malong, or Aggregator, or draw with Garura (possibly Bucephalus) to replace itself.

Also: It's not once per turn.

>>716237396
I should probably just bite the bullet and craft 3 of it + Bucephalus since I've seen them come up often enough

toot

I'm dying to play Master Duel, but I know I'm going to get mad as soon as I see Maliss again.

>>716233894
>>716232539
I thought it was pretty good, killing off the boss monster of decks made it a lot more of a slapfight than rocket tag like it usually is. Fought a lot of low level bumrush beatdown which was neat.

>>716238280
Stay in plat to not see Mapiss.

>>716237783
Stupid Laundry, the flute simulates a mating call to the other dragons.

>>716238380
I would have to wait a month to return to plat anyway

>4 Skull Invitations
Hope they put them in the pend zones

>>716238828
Autism.

>>716238828
Remember last time where everyone just played Magic Planter for a free pot of sneed on their regular ranked deck?

>>716239656
Oh wow I actually never saw that last time

is the captcha on /vg/ fucked for anyone else? seems to be the only board I can't post on

>>716240360
Did you try closing the tab and opening it again, then posting?

>>716240413
yes
sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt

>>716231123
Troonick

Emergency ban list when?

>>716240836
I have my own issues with my ISP with 4chan, and one of them can be solved by opening the 4chan home page (maybe even clicking on a board from there to get the prompt window), and then everything works fine.

>>716240836
Sometimes it's the adblock that messes everything up. You can disable it and try again.

>>716241003
near the end of the season, maybe apo finally gets it

ROBERT
WHERE'S THE LEAK ROBERT
THE BANLIST
ROBERT
THE BAN LIST
LEAK IT
I NEED TO KNOW
ROBERT
SHOULD I CRAFT 2 MORE APOLLOUSA
ROBERT PLEASE

>Niggas still seething over Maliss
I already know it's not that Maliss is strong but that it's a cyberse deck. You won't see half the complaints that Maliss got when Ryzeal comes out

Purrely Horny Memory

>>716242220
By the way, this "tier 0 deck" didn't even win the meta weekly nor was it the runner-up lmao

>>716243135
>AAAAIIIIIEEEE YOU'RE SAYING IT'S TIER 1 INSTEAD OF TIER 0 THAT'S DOWNPLAYING

>>716239836
Basically the most common event tech because fuel was free.

>>716243957
Droplet's gonna be really fun

>>716244053
Droppy burn going second I guess?

>ash his starter
>called
>imperm the extender
>crossout
>minute long pause, then uses TTT into draw 2 into another card that lets xim go full combo and the second called by for my maxx sneed
Chinese letters in his name, TTT as a 1-of btw. They are shameless.

>>716244196
Should've chained the roach to TTT.

>>716244345
I didn't think he'd draw into a counter for it and the one card that lets him shit out a full board despite my previous interruptions.

>>716244450
Always chain Maxx/Fuwa/Puru to draw effects.

>>716245001
If he shotgunned it in draw/standby they wouldn't be able to TTT draw 2 (only Thrust would work)

Lore anime lost.
ZEXAL won.

>>716245141
he used ash

>>716245141
Like the other guy said, but also: An opening hand that's made up of 3 non-engine probably means it's not good.
You use Maxx "C" in the draw phase, they set and pass, and you have no plays on your turn, then they just do everything they want on turn 3.
That's why you have to wait until they commit a bit to use Maxx "C".

>>716243135
Nigga the deck isn't even better than Ryzeal. The same shit happening with Maliss happened with Mathmech when Circular came out

FREE HER

>>716246786
NIGGER

>>716232539
I only had one truly unfun duel this event, it was against tear and they got to winda turn 0 and just kept summoning her over and over after I kept removing her
I won that duel, somehow, but it took like 20 turns of dealing with free winda, such skill expression >_>
was playing zoo goblin biker btw

>>716245481
>>716245664
Ah ok my bad, sorry
Though I prefer having them set pass it's more logical to try and refresh I suppose

(lol

Imagine still playing Yu-Gi-Oh Master Duel

>>716248274
That reminds me, how'd people take the dismantle bonus changes

>>716248562
Horribly.
And Bobert isn't leaking the bans (nor the packs, for TWO months).

>>716248274
This is the update that won't let my toaster run the game, right?

The update is gonna remove all your mods btw

>>716248776
Hmm, as expected. I mean it's just them trying to jew you out of extra dust of course it's shit, but I'm surprised they even bothered when it's literally 5 bonus dust most of the time from a glossy instead of a normal one.

I'm banning Apollousa's sweaty armpits

>>716245928
>Nigga the deck isn't even better than the deck that isn't in the fucking game
Are you retarded?

>>716228053 (OP)
>losing is fun

>>716249652
>>716245928
>just wait guys, x deck is going to be SO MUCH WORSE
Why is this always the go-to strat for retarded downplayers? You saw it with Swordsoul, kash, tear and basically every other meta deck that was clearly too strong.

>>716238828
it'd be hilarious if they don't ban Present Gift for this event

>>716250142
They don't usually change the banlist for tryout duels, unless they're copying a certain format.

>>716249789
>Swordsoul
I'll give you Kash and Tear but Maliss isn't even on their level. Swordsoul wasn't even bad since it had retards doing Chixiao Baronne pass for the longest time. Rarely did someone know how to end on Protos, Chaofeng, Chengying, Chixiao with blackout set. Two of those cards don't even do anything if you're not running a light or dark deck, making the board even easier to play through

>>716250760
You're missing the point, retard. I'm saying downplayers always go
>b-b-b-but the next deck....
whenever anyone says a deck needs hits or is clearly the strongest deck.

Shadowverse Raye

>>716251295
Fjorm!

>>716251595
NO

>open a chroto video
>it defaulted to auto dubbed english
>get jumpscared by male torion

>>716251949
princess
of
nipple

>>716252282
*Tlion

>>716252282
I seriously hate the auto-dub feature. As far as I know, you can only disable it per video and it doesn't even work on Shorts, so now I can't even watch Roboco shorts without the stupid autotune voice ruining them.

I was geeking out for this guy for like a year and never ended up using him

What was the exact moment the TCG jumped the shark?

>>716253040
I use him in Infernoids, thats about it

>>716253138
When Kaz lost his notes and forgot how he wanted to end the first series so he just pulled a random ending out of his ass.

>>716253138
The whole Pend-Link era was very strange
From the constant changes to the playmat with new zones and stuff, to fundamentally changing how the mechanics worked multiple times in back to back master rules
I like both those mechanics now but they clearly took Konami a LONG time to figure out how to work them properly

I don't think the game ever truly jumped the shark though, we've just had some shitty eras that we usually bounce back from.

>>716253398
The idea I always had was using it to use Verte to send ghost fusion and banish ash, then use flametongue to add ash to hand. But then you're stuck with verte and flametongue that can just be ran over

>>716252995
Nta but I also despise it.
>Overrides ALL audio, completely fucking up the video
>Automatic without ability to disable globally, as you said
>Fuckass shitty annoying AI voice
>Awful translation quality regardless
>Turns off subtitles sometimes
>Makes me dread clicking videos that say "Auto-dubbed" on the sidebar
Though I never use shorts so idk, I have those redirect to the non-shorts format version of the video.

>>716248274
I bet it still freezes every time you go back to the fucking menu

>>716230932
Not fun anymore. RIP

Is this not the thread? It's getting impossible to find them

Mating Pressing Purrely

>>716256097
Duel room doko

>>716253138
Depends on what you mean by that. Links fundamentally changed the game since konami felt like summoning your entire hand for free was too much, but it felt too harsh if you weren't a pendslopper, you literally needed to run generic links just to get more zones for your synchro/xyz. MR4 thankfully fixed that.

But honestly, i'd say POTE did more damage to the game than anything else before it. Some """people""" soiface over being to do turn zero plays on top of handtrapping their opponent to shit, but once you ask them to elaborate why exactly this change was good for the game, they are at a loss for words. That, or they literally, unironically go "ummm, it just is, OK?".

>>716253138
Xyz is where they started getting sloppy with pattern making for ED monsters, but links are way more egregious.
>Dump whatever you want in the GY and go into generic boss monster
So glad to see they learned absolutely nothing from Verte or Halq and made the Fiendsmith archetype instead

I really fucking hate the memes of
>if this card is sent to the GY special summon it
>the "cost" for this card is sending it to the GY :^)

>>716257032
Learn the game already traintard

>>716257186
Sorry John Konami the game is perfect there are zero design issues and you did the right thing killing Metal Gear and Silent Hill

>Started playing MTG again a few months ago
>Modern is now filled with scam decks
>Standard games end by turn 3 or 4
>Commander is for fags
At least now I am having fun playing paleo on gold :)

>>716248274
New gameplay mode please
I hate shortlived events and modern

>>716256527
Explain the image though

>>716257996
sex

>>716257996
A man who felt sexually attracted to Dreaming Nemleria climbed up her tower, vaginally penetrated her in her sleep and inseminated her fertile 8 year old eggs.

Ban lancea

what do we think of this synergy chat

>>716258816
just play mimighoul lil bro

it's up

>>716258816
How are you synchro summoning anything in ninja? The deck does need the normal too. Or is it just penguins and 3 mitsu?

>>716261029
Normal Hanzo lets you summon 2 monsters facedown irrc but it's inconsistent. You definitely don't want penguin knight clogging up your hand if your combo is interrupted

>>716261029
Let me cook for a bit longer, penguin ninja will become the next tearlaments

>>716259918
I added this jew to blocktube's list on principle, and i'm not gonna turn it off to watch his drivel, but if he doesn't run soma then he doesn't know a fucking thing about insect link.

>>716261980
I think Soma's worth it, but not wanting to run 2 bricks is reasonable.

>>716263160
>bricks
You're always going to need a discard for rapier and something to fuse with supply soldier. And unless you're stupid, those two bricks will be the 2 krawlers with generic beneficial effects, ie the ones that pop monsters and spells. Not that you'd ever summon them unless you go against a chinese player and thus draw 3 ash blossom, maxx c and either of the small krawlers.

>>716257792
based paleoGOD

>>716263419
They're still bricks even if they can be put to use as a discard, and there will be times where having a card in hand that can actually be used for something would win you the game.

>>716261980
Blocktube isn't working for me anymore, did they fix it recently?

>opponent playing around raigeki in my hand
HUH???

>>716264148
Everyone does that without thinking. That's why you should use good cards instead.

>>716228136
why did they have to make purrely so sexy and erotic

>>716249789
>>716243135

>>716264719
Get new bait.

>>716264719
Imagine the usage and winrate without Lancea

>>716228136
Beat Sword Polisher Fur Hire
Donpa Man Whore Fur Hire
Rex Fleshlight Fur Hire

>>716264809
We can calculate that.
Maliss right now is forced to lose 22% of its games.
However, the deck is also terrible going second.
So only the going first winrate would really change, with the overall average changing a couple points. Overall, it'd get bumped up to A tier, but it'd still be weaker than Blue-Eyes.

>>716236945
>hiita

I enjoy Yugioh, but haven't been able to make it to locals in a long time. Is Master Duel fun? Is it F2P friendly?

>>716238828
i already have a tech card for it

>>716265861
>Is Master Duel fun?
no
>Is it F2P friendly?
yes

>>716265081
>"We can calculate that"
>Does no calculations.
Muhpiss is fine going second with all the dodging they do. The traps are same turn extenders that gain additional effects if your opponent controls monsters. They'll be getting more extenders in the future with the new ignister cards.
Getting Lancea'd going second is a lot worse since you'll need to content with disruptions negating your crossout or finger.

>>716265861
>Is Master Duel fun?
as fun as modern yugioh can be
>Is it F2P friendly?
incredibly so knowing it's from jewnami, you'll get enough currency to build one deck per month or so depending on how UR taxed they are

>>716266373
>is md fun
If you find tcg fun you'll find md fun
>f2p friendly
No. While the game gives you enough for your first deck, as well as staple bundles, newer decks are getting more expensive, some rouge decks (voiceless) are also stupidly pricey. Getting tired of this shit about the game being f2p friendly

>>716235738
Should I build a dork world deck? I pulled card destruction from legacy packs and have 7k gems + 200 UR dust...

>>716267692
Some decks are overly expensive but even then they're easy to get with your monthly f2p gems.

>Maliss ends board with 2 traps and Apollousa
>turns into 5 monsters
>can't run over the apollousa due to the maliss cards preventing it
Usa-chan is a dead girl negating

>>716267692
We literally have anons in these threads who have started in the past few weeks and built a full power tier 1 Maliss deck immediately off their starting resources

Decks ARE getting more UR heavy, but you can still build them all without spending a penny. You just can't build a top tier meta deck AND 30 other pet decks at the same time anymore.

>>716267692
duel links has cards that you literally cannot obtain without spending real money
your idea of what is and isnt f2p friendly is completely warped
a deck taking 6 weeks of shit you are given for FREE instead of 4 weeks worth does not suddenly make the game p2w

>>716268205
Reminder that Verte and Kitkallos are still legal, TCGtard.

>>716268328
Shit you're getting for free with super minimal grinding. Duel Links requires hours and hours of grinding to get the free stuff, and then multiple months of free resources to get a deck. Master Duel requires you to log in to put your dailies in your list, then play like 2 games every few days to clear out the daily list.

>>716264719
Unless you post master and rating duels stats, untappedslop is objectively worthless noise. Stop posting that trash.

>>716267692
I've built Centur-Ion, Voiceless Voice, Vanquish Soul and Maliss in like 3 months total and they're some of the most UR taxed decks there are

>>716268567
The grind is fucking insane in DL
When I gave it a shot I was lucky enough that there was some anniversary bundle in the shop that got me a full Speedroid core to play as my first deck, plus a bunch of staples.
Then I realized that if I ever wanted to build a 2nd deck it would effectively take me the rest of my life to finish.

It's a shame it's a very cool alternate format that i could easily see myself jumping into a lot when I'm burned out of Master Duel or just want some more anime flavor but Konami have made it functionally unplayable.

>>716267692
Nigga you get like 8k gems a month. That's enough to build a deck so I don't know how you can say this game isn't F2P friendly, especially when you can dust unwanted cards and use them for cards you do want

I DON'T KNOW WHAT DECK TO PLAY

>>716269229
he's salty he can't spend 30k on branded alt arts then immediately build maliss and ryzeal back to back while also having enough to build 5 different pet decks and grab all the fields

>>716235738
Whatever faggot
Martha effect into asophiel
Response?

>>716269250
Your Millenium P.U.N.K?

>>716269340
I regret not pulling ecclesia

>>716269340
I've been feeling pretty tight on gems the last few packs but you just reminded me it's because I pulled for Striker and Branded alts lmao. It's fine though, I have a huge collection of dismantlable URs I'm only holding on the off chance they release like, cool Koaki Meiru support that'd make me regret dusting them. So even though I've been super irresponsible with my gems I'm still getting what I need.

>>716269443
Lab is the only alt art I might pull for and only if it comes at a time when I'm rich with nothing else to spend on

>>716228053 (OP)
pic no related

>>716269250
Dinosaur pile is always fun

>>716268834
>bu-but those TWO people down in Bronze are going to skew the data by .02%!!!
The majority of untapped users are between Plat and Master.
Maliss' winrate in just Master is even worse.

>>716269443
7k gems and as soon as I got albaz I stopped (i have like 16k in my stash for ryzeal)
Still haven't been able to build branded but I'll get to it eventually

>>716269759
>source: trust me bro

>>716269759
>The majority of untapped users are between Plat
Outing yourself as an absolute shitter if you think this helps your case.

>>716269827
Source: DO YOU HAVE EYES?

Do you see the Bar graph there? It shows you the distribution of users by rank. Highlighted is Master. And you can see Diamond is the most populated Rank. Bitching about Bronze and Silver users having ANY effect when it's such a low amount that isn't going to skew the data at all is retarded.

If anything, because untapped is geared more toward competitive players, their data is likely to differ from Konami's a little, which does factor in the shitters down in Bronze to Gold that only play a couple times a month.

>>716269370
they don't look cool

>>716269876
I literally showed you the data at Master Rank as a frame of reference, and you can see it's not very different, but in fact, shows a downward trend for Maliss' winrate the more competitive the game becomes. What's your fucking excuse now?

>spend all my UR on latest most powerful deck
>gets nerfed and banned couple months later
>get pity dismantle UR
>new powerful deck is released
>all cards for it are UR
This is the cycle and it's cancer

>>716270304
And Yu-Gi-Oh players will insist the game doesn't have rotation like other TCGs.

>>716270259
>What's your fucking excuse now?
I don't have anything to excuse. All I've pointed out is that you think including plat data is worth considering.

>>716270304
>spend all my UR on latest most powerful deck
>gets nerfed and banned couple months later
Snake Eyes format lasted 18 fucking months you lying sack of shit. If you don't have the resources to build Maliss/Ryzeal after that you are braindead

>>716270304
You get gems during those months you're playing the best deck. You can also just not build the deck that everyone expects to get nerfed.

>>716270207
You don't look cool

>>716270304
>>spend all my UR on latest most powerful deck
>>gets nerfed and banned couple months later
Name the deck right now

>>716270605
Ryzeal whenever that comes out so they can make way for K9, Dracotail, and Yummy

>>716270605
Basically every deck that's not Branded or Snake Eyes to make way for new decks
who the FUCK plays Purrely and Mathmech or Swordsoul now for example despite them being the top tier decks during their fomo days

>>716270995
when did Purrely get banned?

>>716270118
Data from every rank between bronze and diamond is absolute trash not just bronze and silver. Arguably lower master too but that's another topic. It's a complicated deck and most people will fuck it up on a level as basic as not setting up whatever the fuck face down on the backrow before normal summoning dormouse becasue they don't know they can bluff a trap to mindgame the opponent into not using interaction (which I see in ladder all the time, and such misplays don't get punished if you don't have the answers), let alone play through the eighty non linear combos that are easier to blunder than NORMAL SUMMON BERYL NORMAL SUMMON SAGE AND DO THE YOUTUBE VIDEO COMBO that you can watch in a 10 minute tutorial and cockslap your way through the ladder.
If you go inside the data out of the most 12 played malice lists 11 have above 55% winrate. As you scroll down you start seeing actual dogshit from retards running bricks like chaos hunter cope, no dominus impulse and more trash that anyone with half a brain wouldn't do with hundreds upon hundreds of games tanking the winrate of the deck.
These stats are to be interpreted, not taken as absolutes. Results when the deck is piloted by retards running suboptimal lists say nothing about the powerlevel of the deck in a good list piloted correctly. But if all you do is trust stats, what do you want me to say. I guess the deck has consistently topped every tournament for the past year in all formats for no reaosn.

holy shit, I wasn't expecting Mimighoul to carry me to Master1

I took Vaylantz to ranked and I'm having more fun games

>>716272110
It topped in the TCG before it was murdered by the release of Impulse

Is there a deck that can consistently deal enough burn damage turn 1 to be legitimate and effective? Reficule decks are too gimmicky and fragile

>>716272497
gimmick puppet, but otherwise no

>>716272497
If by "effective" you mean kill them before they get to play, then Gimmick Puppets is as close as you're going to get. Volcanics are a tad too jank to do it consistently and Trickstars is not it

>>716272497
Gimmick Puppet and maybe max sloppa Volcanic.
There are lots of other FTK burn decks but those are the two that are somewhat viable.

>>716272548
Then I will make gimmick puppets and kill people before they can even play

>>716273064
I hate that deck because I always lose the coinflip against it. So fuck you but I hope you do well (against everyone but me)

>>716272110
Same but with Maliss

>>716272548
It's crazy that there is a consistent FTK that gets to make itself unaffected by most handtraps that is fully legal and just isn't played

>>716273226
Just like ritual beasts, it's one of those decks with very few players but they do consistently well with it. Fortunately.

>>716248274
yeah i'm not deleting 10gb of loli to make room for unity back to other sims i go

>>716273187
You were not expecting the best deck in the game to carry you to m1? Are you that bad?

>>716273876
I was expecting it to take a couple of day but I just sped through diamond and master. Most people just scooped the moment I played any Maliss card and if they didn't then they scooped when I played through their handtraps

>>716248274
holy, 11 goybites for an engine update. modern gaming is grim
>>716254313
if the menus start running buttery smooth, then I'll acquiesce. to this day it's still my biggest gripe with MD (other than the card game itself)

>>716274165
When's next episode?

>>716274516
Dogma and Tribrig are getting a couple cards soon (Ashiyan and Ferrijit it looks like).

>>716270359
Ostensibly it doesn't for the sole reason that cards can "rotate" back in. Orcust and even Knightmare eventually were freed. Raye's deck is freed. Even longtime prisoner Thousand Eyes Restrict was freed. Are they meta? No, but in a rotated format you'd never be able to use those in Standard again and they're unlikely to be usable in whatever the equivalent of Modern or the like would be because of the strong decks like Tear or Kash that would have slid down into it by now.
I'm not defending
>Make deck
>Deck is banned out of existence
At all but I'm saying rotation is more than what's meta.

>>716275561
tl;dw?

I have to admit that I still have to pull a flowchart to play Malice, the gameplay changes a lot depending on what starter I use or if I get negated and it's pretty easy to mess up, I need to do some mental reps so the combos can properly stick in my head. Other than that, it's a pretty fun deck. Shame I'll have to drop it next month since Dragonmaids most likely will get their new cards, and I really want to try and push to Master I with them.

>>716271827
tldr

>>716275561
I've never watched a single yugituber outside of tolerating Nova Aokami's squeaking briefly and the AI voice President duel with the "Whined the whole match but had the rock in hand" quote.
What the fuck is this guy talking about? I'm not watching that

>>716275509
Did you know zoomers literally have panic attacks if they need to play a game online

>>716275830
>zoomers can't read 4 lines of text
bruh ygo cards have more text than that post on average

>>716246786
Got the Ib version by any chance? I don't have it on this computer.

>>716275875
It's clickbait trash, I doubt anyone's here watching it.

>>716276005
Eh fair

>>716275902
That wasn't 4 lines. It was a literal wall of text with zero spacing.

>>716258169
no

>>716275878
Im 3fuckin5 and I still get anxiety from Bo1 format bro

>>716276257
dumb phoneposter

>>716275878
>be enough of a sperg to like ygo
>people are assholes irl
>people are assholes online
>ygo community is known for being full of autistic assholes
>go on ygo subreddit and people are being assholes
>look in this very thread
yeah man i don't really get why people have anxiety over playing this game

>>716276992
heh, pleb

>>716277213
(You)

>>716277213
there's literally no way to interact with the other player in MD. no chat, no emotes, nothing. how could anyone be an asshole to you in the game?

>>716277468
>crossout, send gg ez

>>716277468
Activating Maxx C at the start of the battle phase when they're about to OTK you.

>>716277468
there are people in these threads that post about how its based for timestalling their opponent for playing something they don't like

>>716236945
>ugly nude mod
This is so sad that people need to see nudity in everything they participate in. Its not even well done, it looks ugly as fuck.

>>716267709
If you don't care about your opponent having a good time and would like to vomit out your entire deck 50% of games and brick hard the other 50% of games then sure.
The deck doesn't have room for handtraps so always pray you go first.

>>716275684
Except banlists only matter in the first place if you're playing competitively. Otherwise you can just do whatever the fuck you want anyways because it doesn't matter.

Can you even grasp that fact? I'm guessing no.

>>716277812
Those posts always make me laugh because 99% of the time I enjoy getting those free wins and just focus on the video I have playing on the other screen.

so what is the best rank to be in if I want a mix of try hards and weird meme decks? is it gold or platinum?

>>716278721
Master
once people stop worrying about rank they stop giving a fuck and bust out the real meme shit

>>716279539
I disagree, my climb to Master 1 was facing 50% Maliss, and 50% Blue Eyes / Fiendsmith / Mermail / Branded. haven't tried rated duels this season, but previous ones were mostly the same meta decks as ladder

>>716278721
Platinum.

>>716275797
Those 3 niggers sell $200 spreadsheets with very basic info for certain meta decks, which isn't a problem since only a complete fucking retard would pay for something like that, however they intentionally withhold info about the decks that could actually prove useful in a major event like YCS. The half asian mutt in particular was notorious for conditioning people into responding to certain plays in a particular way (ie ash this card, imperm this other one, etc), meaning he'd always hold the advantage (the people buying the spreadsheets were obviously sharing them) because those answers were either flat out wrong or suboptimal. In case you don't know, this is the same fucker who went on to cry on a youtube video in 2023 because the format was too diverse, all because his side deck couldn't deal with all the random table 500 shit people brought to a particular YCS. The man who buckbroke him was a mankochad with a shit ton of silver bullets meant to counter his copypasted kashtira deck (which by the way is still one of the most expensive decks ever, just the 3 pots ran you $600), but a sexosister enjoyer also made him go 0-2.

>>716270995
>who the FUCK plays Purrely and Mathmech or Swordsoul now for example despite them being the top tier decks during their fomo days
Literally me. If you can't figure out how to make purrely sexo carry you to master one it's your skill issue.

>>716274516
Friday night I think.

>>716277468
Depends on the platform actually, xbox does let you call your opponent a fucking nigger/stun tranny/cheating chink through their IM app.

>>716279539
This. Once you're in Master, it's like a free-for-all sandbox for psychos. You’ll either hit some meta netdecking mouthbreather grinding to M1 or some absolute maniac trying to FTK you with Ojamas and Smile Action. Platinum is where people still pretend to care.

gaylord

I've noticed that weird curve too in competitive fighting games, where it's like the actually super good players do insane hilarious shit while the people just below them are trying so desperately hard

>>716270995
I play Purrely from time to time. I just want delish back to 3 already

I am going to dump all my resources and and become the GIMMICK PUPPET GOD

>>716271090
They got pretty heavy hits but everything besides delicious memory is back at 3 now.

>>716281906
>>716281154
I don't know, I see tons and tons of jank in play. It's diamond and master 5-2 that's the sweaty area.

>>716278721
Gold is mostly people trying to progress with their pet decks.
Platinum is either people winning enough with their pet decks, or the huge fucking tryhards that couldn't get out of Diamond before the end of the season and are climbing back up there.

>>716282319
Why is mermail considered top tier but Gimmick Puppets aren't?

>>716283134
Racism

>>716283134
I think they just fucking suck going second. Also there's a weird attitude in the community towards otk decks in general

What's better between Nurse Burn and Chain Burn?

>otk decks and stun decks?
>unfun cancer boring non-interactive
>now my solitaire 20 minute combo ending on 5 omninegates and 6 giant bodies, now that's honest and fair

>>716283704
Just open handtraps to interact with the combo player.

>>716283134
Mermail is a monster going 2nd

>>716283629
Chain Burn. It made a brief resurgence in Snake Eye format because that deck puts out so many cards on the field at once for cards like Hidden Barrel to abuse.

>>716283704
Personally I think you should just play whatever you find find and not care about what randos online think.

>>716283704
Why are you pretending that people don't complain about combo decks all the time? They do it far more than OTK decks.

>>716285595
>They do it far more than OTK decks.
Untrue. Plus you have the pro players that whine about shit like gimmick puppets and tenpai and that just leads to brainless morons doing the same.

>>716285639
>Untrue
No it's not. You can't pretend that the complaints Tenpai gets are because it's an OTK deck or that people make the same complaints about other OTK decks.
>Gimmick Puppets
That's an FTK deck you retard. Thanks for proving how little you know about this game.

>>716285639
is it hard to understand why people who play at the highest level dont like decks that turn off all interactions?

>>716283134
mermail is good, gimmick puppets are not
hope this helps

>>716278210
Except it doesn't and rotation completely precludes decks from coming back like Crystron did by getting new cards to fill gaps in function.

Don't be a condescending prick if you don't have a coherent point and you just boil everything down to "but what about kitchen table" like an idiot.

>>716285772
>You can't pretend that the complaints Tenpai gets are because it's an OTK deck
What the fuck are you talking about? That's literally the reason.
>>716285773
I don't care? They're still annoying lmao.

>>716285951
ur dum lol

>>716285870
>rotation never brings back old cards or deck types
You're clueless, anon. Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>716285951
>brings it up
>I don't care????

>>716286018
>Hurr they reprinted Counterspell it's totally the same
Yeah lemme go play my old Sliver deck in Standard you retarded dickhead.

>>716286072
Okay since you're clearly dumb and can't grasp basic stuff: I don't care why they whine about it, it's still annoying and it leads to clueless idiots repeating them non-stop and acting they're objectively right and [deck they don't like] shouldn't exist just because they don't like it.

For a reverse example, look how many people defended and whined if you ever said you didn't like Runick just because Josh whined about it

>>716286138
They actually just made a new sliver in the new set, so that's a funny thing to bring up as a self own. It also ignores that there's officially supported formats where you literally can do that because MTG has multiple ways to play the game while Yugioh only has one.

>>716286157
it is objectively right.

>>716253138
Breaker the Magical Warrior.

>>716286225
It's not. Look at circular for another example of people whining about fucking nothing just because 'duh pro' whined about it.

>>716228053 (OP)
>League of Legends
>Pick Nunu it doesn't matter what position you get
>Go hang out with your teammates and help them push the lane
>Have fun

>>716285863
uh gimmick puppets ARE good because I'm about to play them

rotationfag is back to tell us how the format would be fixed if you just banned weather painters

>>716286220
>A new sliver
Mmm yes because Sliver Overlord is totally legal yeah kill yourself my man you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.
And yeah duh you can play it in shit like Modern but the whole point was that in YGO you don't have to do that and decks get support to drag them back up all the time, even fucking Genex got FTK tier support.

>he got so BTGO and butthurt that he had to go indirectly whine about it
lmao

>>716286403
>it doesn't count because uhh...IT JUST DOESN'T!!!
This is so tiring. Whatever man, suck off konami and keep repeating that it's flawless over and over while they literally rape you

>>716286426
>20 seconds apart
I think you don't realize how unwelcome rotation shit is in YGO threads.

>>716286492
>Whatever man, suck off konami and keep repeating that it's flawless over and over while they literally rape you
youre literally begging for konami to decide to make our cards expire after we buy them

>>716286498
I don't think you realize that I don't really care. I prefer yugioh as well but I'm not going to pretend that it's flawless and perfect.
>>716286554
>still ignoring that multiple formats exist

>>716286492
Nigger it went like this
>I can't play my old Sliver deck in Standard
>Uh, they released a new Sliver, so that's not true
>Ok so is my favorite card that's literally the main reason I played it legal there then
>Hurr now you're saying it doesn't count
Like fuck off you brainless dipshit, if the discussion was about old card legality in a Standard style format why the FUCK would that matter? They're not reprinting all the other Slivers from what I can see.

>>716286587
>still ignoring that multiple formats exist
there are tons of alt formats already you can go play right now instead of being a nigger here
you wont because we both know you dont want to play other formats

>but you can't play with your cards!
>I mean...you can...but not in this one specific format!
>That means they're expired!
>ignore that the banlist is soft rotation anyways!
>>716286652
No, I was pointing out that you can play that card in a different format. You don't HAVE to just play it in standard, you dumb fucking retard. It's not yugioh. You can play other formats. They exist.

>>716286676
>ignore that the banlist is soft rotation anyways!
Why do you say this like its a bad thing?
Its the good parts of rotation with none of the bad parts

>>716286657
The only played formats for yugioh are Edison and GOAT. Good fucking luck finding a group for anything else or for Konami to support that outside of a shitty banlist event on MD for a 3 days.

>>716286587
I mean, they do in YGO as well, they're literally killing off one of them for a replacement classic format that plays with current text.
Granted shit sux but it's there.
And the point wasn't that and more that they don't rotate decks back in, only out. It's rare they reprint whole sets of stuff back into newer formats, just staples that won't break things usually.

>>716286769
So you're admitting there's no interest for this garbage?

>>716286712
I don't know, why do you pretend like MTG is burning your cards after a week or some bullshit and that you can never play them again?
>>716286787
I don't like the edison or goat formats. They're boring.
>>716286806
Just those two formats. I'd take early Duelist Alliance or something though.

>>716286280
>it's not
decks that operate by minimizing interactions against the opponent are, in fact, objectively unfun.

>>716286848
>I don't find it fun so no one is allowed to play it!!!
What a shitty, selfish way to look at it.

>>716286894
>I want to duel by myself
What a shitty, selfish way to play.

Anyways I'm bored of talking about this. Going to go draft the new set for a while in MTG and have actual fun instead of having to sit there for another uninteractive game of Malipiss.

>>716286676
And I know that you dumb fuck, if I have the deck I obviously am aware of how the game works.
The new Sliver is still completely fucking irrelevant to the point of using my old deck, and the games ultimately just release cards differently due to how they're structured. Unplayable trash like Crystron or outclassed formerly meta shit like PUNK can suddenly make a huge comeback because it was never actually rotated out.

Rotationanon has a point, if we had a yearly rotation cancerous problem cards like Majespecters and Shinobarons and Watts would be getting permabanned this month and never be allowed to see play again.

>>716286986
Good, fuck off and don't come back, stay in the MtG threads instead of shitting this one up.

>>716286986
>and have actual fun instead of having to sit there for another uninteractive game of Malipiss.
Don't you want to ban every deck that isnt maliss?

You guys lost lmao

>>716287263
to what
I just lost to Hero shit again because of their floodgate bosses...

Can we PLEASE get a new fucking banlist already? I want delish back to 3.

>>716228053 (OP)
> Quarterstaff.
In every melee slasher.

>>716283134
Too damn frail, being immune to everything but trap cards and xyz monsters sounds nice, until you remember that impermanence is ran on like 90% of decks, and some of them also run either of the dominus traps. It's even worse in paper format because the newest, strongest meta deck has turn zero plays, specifically a racoon girl that summons herself whenever you breathe, dumps a werewolf, then summons it and xyz summons either a negate + pop or a succ.

>>716286963
I don't care about you having fun but I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to play what you want. Meanwhile you and your retarded e clebs are. So...

but of course you're retarded and think Josh is flawless and want to suck his german dick

>>716287403
it will be a nothing list but hopefully furniture to 3 at least

>>716286832
Not talking about those, I'm talking about Time Wizard (official format) being killed off for one that's the same but uses new card erratas for some reason. Hence why it sucks. I think it's actually because they're trying to push classic product and don't want to print the old text on them.

>>716287403
we aren't getting anything meaninful until after Worlds (end of August)

>>716287475
>t but hopefully furniture to 3 at least
That would be nice as well. Just unhit all the shitty old decks already. Fuck, unhit Blue-eyes so we have another viable deck. That was a fucking clown hit

>>716275935
Sure.

>>716287532
MD cleans up its banlist much faster than the other formats at least
TCG only got fucking MONKEYBOARD back to 3 last banlist. They still have an Unchained card at 2 lmao

>>716287460
>I don't care about you having fun
What a shitty, selfish way to look at it.

>>716287535
I like these.

>>716287602
>anon is a brain dead AI just repeating the same thing over and over
Sad! But explains why you have your brain dead opinions.

>>716287535
Thanks. Now I can shitpost away from home.

OK before I make like 18 UR cards, is gimmick puppet genuinely good? I want a fun and interactive but strong and high skill ceiling deck

>>716287735
or should I make dinomorphia?

>>716287735
>I want a fun and interactive but strong and high skill ceiling deck
it is literally the opposite of all these things what possibly made you want to build it?

>>716287638
Where do they come from

>>716287735
>I want a fun and interactive
Ok, this made me laugh. If you're not joking, it's not top tier but it's good. It's not interactive though. It's an FTK deck. You do your combo and kill them on turn 1 with burn damage.
>>716287839
Dinomorphia is also very often not interactive. Rexterm is the main win condition.

>>716287865
You need to make an account and log in but there's almost 200 of them here.
https://arca.live/e/39809

>>716277886
Are you gonna stop seething about this one day?

>>716287652
you've made it clear that you have no interest in the health of the game and just wants to masturbate with your cards, I have no reason to engage with your posts besides making fun of you

>>716287735
>I want a fun and interactive but strong and high skill ceiling deck

Just build Malice.

>>716287735
>fun and interactive but strong and high skill ceiling deck
Branded.

>>716287735
>>716287839
This has to be trolling. You want a skillful, fun, and interactive deck but are trying to decide between "FTK or bust" and "Skill Drain+Solemn Turbo" are you fucking mental? Do you know how many cards in Gimmick Puppet literally just say "Your opponent cannot" on them? How many cards in Dinomorphia effectively have the same text unless your domain gets ashed? This is like someone saying they want to play a nice and low to the ground archetype and then debating between Adventure Halqadon and a 60 card Adamancipator pile.

>>716277886
It really is a weird mental state. Like I get enjoying Jude things but I'll never understand wanting every single thing to be oozing with it. It's super off putting

>add card to hand
>exploit turn player priority for the next chain
>play Droplet, sending a monster
>opponent can't chain Droll

I still don't understand the Chaos Ruler ban

>>716288841
Chaos ruler gives some pretty obscene value.

>>716288841
same reason Zombie Vampire should be banned. generic enabler for too many slop decks
Chaos Ruler also had the extra benefit of synchro climbing

>>716269250
Play azamina pile
It's pretty fun.
>>716278721
Gold/Master
Like almost every competitive game out there you will always have your lump of players in the most common to high ranks. Really once you reach plat 1 that's where the meme decks stop for a good while.

>>716288841
>sculpt your hand
>mill 4
>use it as material twice
gee i wonder why

>>716288841
It wasn't as big a deal as people act like, but the sorts of decks that use that sort of card are pretty cancerous so I'd say the game is better without it.

>>716283134
Puppets don't really have a field or solid gameplan going second. Mermeil is just all around more flexible and can play through a board with the right hand.

>>716288674
Especially since erotic clothing or partial nudity are 10x as sexy anyway. Like if you made it so the Ecclesia Alt Art had her panties visible that'd be one thing, but this is not that.

>>716288841
They banned him for being too cool and enabling decks that were too fun. In all seriousness though, it was one of many, many Tear/mill pile hits. PUNK cards let you turbo him out and then make Zombie Vampire for an easy mill 9, and it wasn't uncommon for mill piles to dump their entire decks if Chaos Ruler resolved. Bystial PUNK was such a sick deck though, sad it had to die for the sins of millslop

Well shit bros then I don't even know what I want
I thought I wanted an interactive deck but interactivity in this game is just negates, banishes and counters
I thought I wanted an FTK deck but that's just jerking off and you either win or have nothing and lose instantly
I also tried stun but it was boring after a while
So what in the fuck do I play

>>716289686
Literally just play any deck thats not an FTK or stun jfc nigga its not hard

>>716289686
There are decks that don't put up more negates than the opponent has in hand and actually have to deal with the possibility of the opponent being able to play the game themselves.

>>716288934
Ruler was also single handedly gluing together shit decks and the slop piles were not all that good, being completely helpless if Ruler was negated and they had no other deck access.
Tear still exists and is stronger than it was when Ruler was legal, since it now has Pilgrim Reaper + Zombie Vampire in engine
While lots of decks can shit out generic 8, most of those decks are not meta and meta decks aren't going to easily incorporate it into lines without running bad cards. SEFS could hypothetically do it with OSS > Jet Synchron > Witch but look at how shit that line and decklist is compared to Millennium Engine into ZV.

>>716283383
Gimmick Puppet isn't as weak as everyone says it is going second. It can burn for a shit ton still and its monsters are big. It also has its own Sangen Summoning and various GY banish cards to floodgate out interaction.
The bigger issue IMO is that going first, the FTK cannot handle MD style decklists that overwhelm with handtraps. Multiple handtraps destroy them, Bystials does dominus do a lot of damage and if they deck opens its own handtraps it doesn't have the extenders to fight back.
Basically it's like a pendulum deck but frailer, which is hilarious with how frail pends are already in MD.

aoe2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmHFlh_criM&list=PLGVjiUKVQd701i3kxoGIMVHHBpJhUbUDy

What was the biggest YGO drama? I only started to pay attention to the community after MD's release.

>Stern and Lady still not on MD
LET THEM IN FFS

>>716289686
Watch meta weekly and see if you like anything.
Branded (when played by abohmod) is a fan favorite.
Barely any negates, its interactions are layered, can play through Maxx/Fuwa and make a respectable board, can weather a lot of the opponent's interactions and still come out on top.

>>716290375
I started playing

>>716290375
Yugioh once caused literal riots in Japan

>>716290375
The Patrick Hoban Djinn incident in 2015 is the probably the most notorious piece of drama when it comes to competitive play in the west.

>>716290375
It was in 7th grade when Wesley traded his Dark Magician+Blue Eyes White Dragon for Marcus' Obelisk the Tormentor and then later claimed it was a bootleg but Marcus refused to trade back.

>>716290375
I remember people would famously cheat with Infernity and get into fat fuck fights at tournaments

>>716290749
There was another one with Hoban where he brought a French MST to a US tournament and got disqualified because his opponent called a judge and complained Hoban didn't have a translation for it

>>716291009
See that kind of angle shooting garbage is why it's impossible for me to take card games seriously competitively, then combined with the obviously pay to win structure of the genre it makes it very hard to even enjoy

>>716290486
"Rents"?

In addition to the previously shown Ashiyan retrain, 2 more new Dogma cards are coming
https://ygorganization.com/rosesofmay/
Looks like Labrynth is as always, eating good, as this can be a T0 interruption for them that turns on Lady.

>>716290486
OK, I'm putting them in the next pack just for you. But I'll have to replace the Evil Twin support that was planned.

>>716291967
The TCG at this point is just an anabdoned MMO with the legacy servers and payment processing still functioning. When Konemi abandoned paper for Rush the game should have gone digital sooner.
It's also telling that you don't see a lot US tubers anymore, most are Canadian or European because card shops died in the US twice, once after Pokemania and the second time after the 2008 crisis.

>>716292295
Where's my RDA and Spright support, my Spright/RDA deck can barely keep up with this meta

What specific mimighoul cards should I add to my ninjas? I feel like there's some good synergy there

>>716292470
fine by me, I just want my Dragonmaids

>>716292572
RDA just got a structure deck so it seems like its being skipped over for the next 5Ds wave which is all Yusei/Aki/Crow

>>716292594
>I feel like there's some good synergy there
How? All I really see is that you have an additional way to flip down a monster to keep the Dungeon lock live.

kill all cyberse

>>716287535
>>716287638
>>716287987
Is there a Raye or DMG version of these?
Also any Tear girls?

>>716292718
me flip effects

>>716292814
maybe

>>716287987
What is this site? Is it a hentai site?
It's blocked in my country.

>>716292848
dragon or fairy

>>716292878
I think it's some korean message board where users can upload their own emotes for others to buy somehow.

How to play white forest

>>716289686
>I've tried stun decks, I've tried FTKs and I just can't find anything interactive and skill testing!
>I'm all out of ideas
There's like a dozen decks that set up maybe 1 negate or a bunch of non-negate interactions and rely on recurring advantage over a number of turns. They're literally giving away a partially complete Branded core RIGHT NOW. Centurion, Vanquish Soul, Voiceless Voice, Furniture Lab, Memento, Vaalmonica, pick anything man I'm begging you.

>>716293695
I'm gonna be honest anon
I also want to play a bit of a hipster deck

>>716291967
FWIW this shit would not fly in 2025 and Konami takes a pretty proactive stance against "tattle-tale turbo" style angle shoots. Neuro makes this specific complaint impossible, and I could see someone getting a warning for even trying that these days. This ain't Magic the Gathering.

>guy in magic uses a card to target another card
>he names the shortened name and the only one the guy had in his deck
>other guy said he had no target with that name
magic is so fucking aids

>>716293736
Pick anything that I mentioned that isn't also on this list. A less than 1% play rate means it's effectively played by no one.

>>716294138
Not even the most annoying thing about MtG. They also changed the rule after this specifically because the example was so bullshit. The real problem with Magic players is that when you start winning they'll call a Judge over to verify your decklist, check your sleeves, re-engineer gamestates to ensure you actually had enough mana to cast the game winning spell, etc etc. Anything to avoid tarnishing their X-4 record further. And all the intentional drawing and politcking in the new CEDH tournaments. Say what you will about Konami but if there was a cabal of people drawing to each other on purpose in a Yugioh tournament they'd line them up at the next YCS and start slitting throats like it was a 2016 ISIS video.

I just think they're neat (I also like being pretty much immune to maxx c and ash)

Informationpill me on ghoti

>>716294863
They're bad but I like them

>>716294308
He says when every other wcs has people openly cheating on stream and the commentators literally defending the cheater (that Josh stream was fucking pathetic)

Just looked up Centurion, cute girls in armour
I'm fucking sold
No longer friends with unbuilt gimmick puppets, now unbuilt centurion is best friend

>miss deck dearly
>no support on the horizon for the next year and a half
It hurts so much why can't zombies be playable again?

>>716296214
that art goes so hard

>>716296178
Centurion is just Stardust buttplug.

>>716296178
Based
It's a pretty fun deck if you love synchros
I had to make a new account because MD is more comfy on PC than on phone and planning to rebuild my centurion deck by first using it as a small engine for the RDA structure deck

>>716296178
its a cool deck but be warned ryzeal is about to make it completely unplayable

>play me trains
>opponent playing magicians
>turn 1 he gets dark dragoon
FUCKING EPIC HE CAN NEGATE EVERYTHING GAIN ATTACK AND JUST FUCK ME UP LOL EPIC

>>716296992
>Can't push through one fucking negate
Lol

>>716296992
Just bait the negate and summon ty-phon bro, it's that easy

>>716297125
trains is hard deck (to play and not seethe at wondering why i wasted so much fucking resources)

>>716297158
Trains is like the definition of "click glowing cards"

Is Qliphoth good?

>>716248274
>11 gigas
The heck is this? Why so large?

Just got this absolute unit of a card, he looks fucking awesome
Is his archetype any good?

>>716287735
>puppets
>interactive
Kek

>>716297852
Maybe if they still had VFD but unfortunately Virtual World pumped out level 9 XYZs too well and now the archetype (Such that it is) has no payoff. The irony is that, in a lot of ways, these cards are strictly worse Dragon Rulers.

WOW SUPER FUN AND EPIC EFFECT

>>716292668
The sad part is the RDA cards are good, but not nearly enough
The Yusei/Aki/Luna cards are dogshit, Blue Eyes can use the AFD retrain at least

>>716296214
I'm waiting for Dark Necromancer to play Vendread.

>>716297254
Hasn't been good since 2016, and that was when Pendulums in general were better due to Master Rule 3 letting you pend summon as many cards from the ED as you wanted. Towers Turbo doesn't even work anymore since Apoqliphort towers actually has pretty shit protection for the card that gave Towers their byword. Only being protected by lower level monsters means jack shit against Link monsters and in the current year everyone runs S:P. And if they don't, TY-PHON can effect it because it specifies lower level monsters. You could maybe run it as a Towers Turbo+Stun toolset but that's just playing worse True Draco at this point. The cards are over a decade old, they just don't do enough.

>>716297409
They literally mention why in the update you gotta read man

FUN AND INTERACTIVE GAMEPLAY

>>716297254
I remember it was good. It was always a foodgate turbo deck, you summoned towers then flipped Skill Drain.
In the DUEA format there were very few level 10+ monsters that could beat towers, and heavy storm was banned so you couldn't even deal with the floodgates either.

>>716298453
tbf Jack's deck is now a functional modern Yugioh deck which is more than can be said for 3/6 signers
it was never gonna turn the deck tier 1 but that wave of RDA support was an insane boost

I just wish it was Aki/Rua/Ruka coming up instead of more (bad) Yusei cards and BUY BLACKWINGS

>>716298624
>posts fun and interactive card
What did anon mean by this?

34 turns later

>have two level 14s
>can't summon zeus
???

>>716297157
Based gold shitter, I kneel

ATTENTION THREAD I AM NOW GOLD

>>716298751
>it was never gonna turn the deck tier 1
Neither was Blue-Eyes. RDA already has Crimson Gaia/Vision Resonator so it doesn't take a lot to build off those cards.
If anything, RDA being too popular and getting into Arc V meant it got a lot of earlier support when early locks were a thing, Crimson Resonator and Red Rising shouldn't lock, it prohibits you from playing RDA alongside Earthbound which Konami seemed to want to take the deck but couldn't because of those locks.

>>716298961
please respond I don't get why

>>716275509
as long as you're not an arrogant retard that thinks they know more than they actually do it's fine. Noobs are welcome too

>>716299718
Have you checked if those 2 level 12 don't lock you out of special summons or xyz summons?

>>716299718
There's no level 14
And check the lingering effects icon to see if something locked you out of summoning zeus for some reason

>>716299828
>zeus is a light machine not an earth machine
AAAAIIIEEEEEE that's why, thanks anon

>>716299881
I used an infinitrack guy to gain levels

>>716299934
Ok but zeus says that you need two level 12 right

>>716299994
don't tell me it's some autistic shit like you need level 12 exactly, not level 12 minimum

>>716300063
That's literally how xyz summoning works, yes. Two level 12 are two level 12. Not two monsters of at least level 12.
There's literally nothing on the card that implies any level above 12 is allowed

>>716253138
If you mean TCG as in the format then it's been a dead man walking since MD released.
Why would you wait 6 months (at least) for a set to be imported from the ocg, with a worse print quality, and with the cards from the set rarity bumped to shit (fuwalos was a rare on release in the ocg and a secret in the tcg.) When I could just wait a year to get those same cards for basically free in MD

>>716300174
goddamn it
Well I'm a tard then

>>716300063
>don't tell me it's some autistic shit like the text that's written on the card

>>716299194
Once you leave gold and reach plat, you can derank in the tiers, and that's when the game starts getting tough.
Right now you can't derank tiers.

>>716300774
>it's completely unreasonable for me, a new player, to think that when it says level 12, it can also use above level 12

>>716300770
Are you a new player? It's fine, take your time

I cast Smile World, on resolve it lets everyone in the thread have a fun time

>>716300935
FUCK YOU I DON'T WANT TO SMILE
BAROONNEEEEE

>>716300824
yes, that is pretty unreasonable. Yugioh rules ALWAYS work as they're written (pic unrelated)

>>716300824
>>716300774
>>716300063
Let's not shit on the new player, there are things sometimes written on the card that don't mean exactly what's written on them.
Like returning to hand means returning to the extra deck for extra deck monsters.
Or how copying spells' effects doesn't copy their restrictions, but copying traps does but only sometimes.

>>716231123
play Exchange of the Spirit for the luls

>>716300437
b-because the online format is so shit...Maxx "C" is legal, nips are retarded gacha brained bugmen...

>>716301140
>Or how copying spells' effects doesn't copy their restrictions, but copying traps does but only sometimes.
can you elaborate? I know how effects like Diamond Dude and Transaction Rollback work, but what's the difference between spells and traps in this context?

>watch dkayed competitive master duel tournaments

>whoever goes first always wins
>unless player 2 resolves maxx C, and then player 2 always wins

>>716301237
it's pretty common for people to make verte anaconda and then use it with red eyes fusion even though red eyes fusion has a crazy restriction that you can't do ANY other summoning on the entire turn that you activate the spell, even before you cast it

>>716301237
It's not a written rule, nor has it been stated explicitly in rulings that this distinction exists, but if you read the rulings of cards that copy spells and cards that copy traps, you'll notice it.

Red-Eyes Fusion has the restriction of not allowing you to summon other monters the turn you activate it. But that restriction doesn't apply if you use Verte Anaconda to copy it.

Heavy Storm Duster has the restriction of not allowing you to conduct a battle phase that turn. That restriction STILL applies if you copy it with Transaction Rollback's first effect, but doesn't apply if you copy it with its second effect.

>flip imperm in opponents link column
>surrenders
Is this...the power of being gold...

What determines when some cards can special summon AND attack during battle phase?

>>716301624
??????

>>716301624
What do you mean? I suppose that the summoning condition can be performed as a quick effect

>>716301486
>>716301497
hm, that's curious. Rollback working differently with its two effect is even weirder. I can't make sense of why that's the case
>>716301624
unless they have some effect that say they can't, they are always allowed to. if they're in attack mode, that is

>fight traptrix
>literally can't do anything because everything gets negated and lol only one normal summon :^)

>>716301749
>Rollback working differently with its two effect is even weirder. I can't make sense of why that's the case
Because its first effect is its card activation effect (the effect that happens when you flip it), and it's copying a card activation effect, so it copies the card activation restriction.
Its second effect (which is the powerful one) is NOT its card activation effect, so it doesn't copy the activation restriction.

>>716301749
>>716301916
Let me correct that bit at the end:
it doesn't copy the card activation restriction because you're not activating the card, so it doesn't apply.

>>716301624
Any monster in attack position can always attack unless there's some specifical special card effect preventing it from being able to attack.

As for special summoning during the battle phase, the only effects that can trigger during the battle phase are "quick effects" (ie bystial), quickplay spells (super poly), traps, and trigger effects (like golden swordsoul), all of which can potentially summon a monster.

>>716301916
>>716301992
right, I can see that being the case; the difference between card activation and effect activation. even if it's entirely obtuse
are there any cards that copy other spells when activated? or only as an effect, like Diamond Dude and Verte Anaconda? would it copy the restriction too if that was the case?

>>716301916
this is the reasonable justification that people use in hindsight, but the really real reason it works that way is because at some point a judge made an arbitrary call and then they just set that as the standard.

>>716300935
I chain seal, preventing you from making anyone smile for the rest of this thread

>>716302182
There's Serial Spell:
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Serial_Spell
I don't see anything on its ruling page that says you need to copy the restrictions.

Here's the list of cards that copy effects:
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Resolves_as_another_card%27s_effect

>>716302182
There's also Numeron Network copying Numeron Calling:
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Numeron_Network
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Numeron_Calling

I wasn't playing when Numeron was meta, but for anyone who knows: Can you summon more than once after you copy the effect?

>>716302610
>Mentions in Other Rulings
>Dark Magic Curtain: If you Chain “Serial Spell” to “Dark Magic Curtain”, the effect that prevents you from Normal Summoning, Flip Summoning, or Special Summoning for the remainder of the turn is still applied. When “Serial Spell” resolves it will Special Summon 1 “Dark Magician” from your Deck and it will apply the Summon-restriction, so when “Dark Magic Curtain's” effect tries to resolve its effect will disappear because you cannot Special Summon a monster.

looks like it's the same as Rollback's on-field situation

>>716302797
I just remembered Fusion Duplication copying Branded Fusion.

Branded Fusion has a restriction of allowing you to summon only Fusion monsters from the extra deck for the entire turn, but if you copy it with Fusion Duplication, that restriction doesn't apply.

>>716302791
I tried on EDOPro and couldn't summon anything after the Masquerena

>>716303132
Can you try it on Master Duel?

>>716303179
I don't have Network, and it's a UR so I'm not willing to

here's a possible difference I noticed:
>Branded Fusion: You cannot [...] the turn you activate this card.
>Red-Eyes Fusion: You cannot [...] the turn you activate this card.
>Dark Magic Curtain: You cannot [...] the turn you activate this card.
all of these don't have their restrictions copied by ignition effects

>Numeron Calling: also you can only [...] once for the rest of this turn.
this one does get the restriction copied, even on an ignition effect

>Heavy Storm Duster: You cannot [...] the turn you activate this card.
only gets the restriction copied when it's done by Rollback's activation effect

so it could be a difference of the text on the card being copied as well

>dogmatika goes first and rips my ED
>summon Exodius
>they scoop
wow

>>716303667
>>716303132
Okay I just realized what's the issue and why Numeron Calling is different.

"also you can only Normal or Special Summon once for the rest of this turn" is part of the effect, not a restriction.
That's why it gets copied. For the others, they ARE restrictions, because they're separate sentences from the activation effect.

It's my mistake for thinking it might be a possible candidate to test this. Numeron Calling has no activation restriction.

>>716303667
sorry I made a mistake on the post, I meant to say Dark Magic Curtain does get its restriction copied by Serial Spell's activation effect. it might not get the restriction copied by something like Diamond Dude's ignition effect, so it could be equal to Heavy Storm Duster's situation with Rollback

>>716303884
I think you're probably right.

Is Utopia worth building/good?

>>716275878
zoomers discovered ladder anxiety? I only got that when playing 1v1 ranked in Company of Heroes in 2006

oh god I'm old.

>>716277213
motherfucker you are on 4chan, home of the autistic asshole, if you can hang here you can play the online childrens card game

>>716303951
yeah, I tested it
used Diamond Dude to mill Curtain, then next turn used the effect to summon Dark Magician and was still allowed to normal summon the second Diamond Dude
boy, this children's card game sure is complex

>>716288841
>generic synchro 8
>great stats
>adds 1 and mills 4
>revives itself to extend plays
i miss it too but come one bro, you want it to do your taxes for you too?

>>716304586
>generic synchro 8
The game has moved on from the point that this is easy to make, in engine, at a plus.
It says a lot that the best decks for running Chaos Ruler are still PUNK, Synchron and Dragon Link.
You certainly could run it in White Forest or Centurion but it's not necessarily better than Primera or Diabell.

News about enneacraft/killertune when?its been a while since they dropped hecantoheires info

>>716305895
in like 2 weeks

>>716296214
There should be a card that searches "Field Spells that mentions Zombies"

>>716306951
worthless.
zombies need real starters and real extenders
they're still stuck in the era of the game when you had more than 1 turn to work towards your deck's endgoal

>>716307160
Ban Mezuki and we have a deal

>watch cimo video with cgb
>cbg reads cards
>asks why YGO players keep playing the same game over and over, don't they get bored
>don't understand at first
>later realize he's talking about spamming bodies and negates
I thought MTG was the same way?

>>716307624
MTG has more variance because it's not as tutor heavy as yugioh so decks on mtg don't have the ability to pop off as often as our decks do. Yes, there are handtraps and interaction but the fact is that magic cards don't tutor each other and decks aren't designed to consistently be able to pull off the exact same combo every game. He fails to see how that doesn't get old because he hasn't played the game much and doesn't know how much different games can be. As well as how different decks can be between each other, as if you were only allowed to play one deck.
Cimo fails to convey this as well and just memes it up.

>>716307624
No he's talking about one card starters and modern YGO decks being able to make the same endboard every single game with insane consistency. A card game is supposed to be random depending on what cards you draw. Modern YGO decks have efficiently removed all random elements from the game. That's what he's taking issue with.

Clockwork Night is a crazy good card

Should I craft 3 apollo ahead of the next banlist

>chaos hunter and lancea everywhere
>deck can't function at all

>>716264598
because she is a damn slut, a SLUT!!!

>>716312931
>she

>>716310971
Just play Horus lmao lol just summon from GY and never banish lmao Lancea who

>>716309269
>a card game is supposed to be random
There's never been rules when making card games that is has to be random, that's just mtg cope, that game allows mulligans. Consistency introduces skill where randomness removes skill. There are arguments to be made based on card design, but there are enough decks with consistent play styles that the idea of it needing to be random removes skill expression. The extra deck exists to be utilized for consistency, been that way since at least Links were introduced. Besides, you only draw 5 cards on turn one, and if you draw all engine with no interaction, there's your randomness. The skill comes from deck building, what cards to run at what values, the randomness comes from drawing only a small portion of your deck at the start.
I don't know if that's your position or if you were just clarifying for the other anon, if the it's the latter then just ignore me

>>716314237
I am on Spright and I run Plaguespreader Zombie. If I get hit by Lancea or Chaos Hunter that's unlimited special summons as long as I have cards in hand.
But 2 Axis might be the worst in the game. Outside of Gigantic Spright it's a whole lot of shitty cards. I think 11, 12 or 7 Axis might be the only series to be as bad as 2.

>>716314880
If it's not supposed to be random then why do we shuffle our decks? Imagine how much skill expression and strategy the game would have if we could stack our deck before each game.

>>716315405
Yea but you could just
>Imsety go battle phase, activate Kings Sarc
Surely it will win the entire duel, trust in the plan brother, summon vampire miller Z

>>716316314
>why do we shuffle our decks
Stacking cards is the opposite of random, and I have already pointed out that draw phase IS the randomness. Strawmanning my point of skill expression is silly, but I'll humor you. Why shuffle the decks when the strongest decks have enough starters to reach upwards of ~60% end board consistency ratio? You can just search the cards you want and the shuffle means nothing now. 12-15/40 starters that all search the extender which can be hard drawn and the search a different extender. Randomness is not required in card games is my point, clearly yugioh functions, albeit at the discrepancy I previously pointed out; arguments can be made against card design (such as Tearlaments and Snake-eyes).

>>716289686
Maybe some midrange combo?
You could try Bystial/RDA/Centurion, but its kinda expensive as you play it as a 60 Card Deck with 3 different Archetypes.

The thing with yugioh is that it has a gorrillion archetypes, so you WILL find something that resonates with you, but it will take time and knowledge to find what youre looking for.

>>716316819
You would be hard pressed to find a card game that doesn't start with shuffling the deck to randomize it, it's some kind of insane cope to try and claim that card games don't have to be random.

>>716242643
Maliss never won tournaments in the TCG. It's extremely strong but immediately loses to Lancea.
It's not a well designed deck.

>>716309269
CBG's complaint is that tutors tutor tutors and it keeps going and going. Despite being a blue enjoyer, he doesn't like the modern gameplay loop of 4 counterspells and a 1 card FTK, every single game. And he's completely right, YGO is shit right now because of design like this.

>>716317031
You conflating shuffling in master duel (which is a formality because you can't physically stack cards, being that it's a digital game) and the reason we shuffle irl, where you can actually sleight of hand your way to wins if you don't get caught. There's no rule, no solid law, no creativity deity that enforces some sort of preventative measure stopping humans from creating a card game that doesn't rely on randomness to create an enjoyable experience.
Magic is designed to be slower paced, that's the point of the mana system, brother. Two entirely different games, one of which uses randomness to create an enjoyable experience, mtg, and the other which entirely designed around tutor cards and archetypal synergies.
You can call it cope, but people enjoy yugioh as is, some don't and that's okay. The game is only semi random for me, my deck runs 15 starters with a link 1 that searches the field spell that searches the extender. The deck shuffle didn't matter, my extra deck doesn't need to be shuffled at all, and even if it was, it literally changes nothing for the game state, because the extra deck can be accessed at any time, even just to see what cards you have.

>>716317516
>There's no rule, no solid law, no creativity deity that enforces some sort of preventative measure stopping humans from creating a card game that doesn't rely on randomness to create an enjoyable experience.
You could make dice with the same number on all sides and claim that dice don't have to be random but the entire reason the thing was designed was to be random. Being able to bastardize it does not remove the intended function.

>>716317795
Dice and card games are not the same, rules cannot be applied to both equally, this is a false equivalence at best and a slippery slope at worst.

I miss Dice Rally.
Fucking U5 made me realize how good we had it

>>716318120
Now you're just shitposting. I accept your concession.

>>716318156
Outside of being blown out by the card generator, blowing out my opponent with the card generator was incredibly fun. I actually really enjoyed seeing what card it gave me and trying to fit a work around or an entire deck around it. It showed me neat and new interactions I was unaware of. Bring back dice rally.

>>716318289
>took her this long to figure it out

>>716318289
So what point have you made that isn't a complete fallacy? You just want card games to be random? You haven't claimed a position, you're just shouting that in your opinion card games need to be random, for no discernable reason other than in your opinion that's how they were inherently designed.
So do you like yugioh or not? If you don't, why the fuck are you posting here? A lot of players her enjoy more than 1 card game, you know. Concede this dick, backstreet bitch.

I'm going to Maliss.

>get ygomaster + solo campaign mod
>play boomer formats
>fill deck with copies of maha vailo, monsters that can attack several times per battle phase and equip spell cards
>unga bunga
ahhhhh... this is the life

>>716294863
TGC archetype aka born nerfed/mid thanks to the SPYRAL incident

>ugh. this is just a coinflip game. whoever goes first just wins. I wish konami made a good going second deck
>N-NO NOT LIKE THAT!!

>strawman
>special pleading
>ad hominem
>ad populum
>fallacy fallacy

How's this for support zombie bros

>>716318289
>got called out
>cries desperately
>"I a-accept y-your concession :("
Damn I haven't seen someone blown the fuck out like that in a while

>>716319006
Wait a minute anon, you're telling me veiler is a girl? What the fuck am I supposed to do with all this porn?

>>716318781
What players want is a deck that can eat 6+ interactions going second.
How most go-second decks tend to work is they use non-interactive board breakers, or they function like Tenpai or Ancient Gear and prevent you from interacting with them.
So yeah, most go second decks are poorly designed and almost as toxic as the go-first FTKs.

>>716318881
the monster is whatever
the spell gets banned within a week

>>716319124
Actually what the players want is more Raye.

>>716319271
>the monster is whatever
You fusion summon the monster using the spell and mill 5 zombies, one of which is Necroworld Banshee.

>>716319548
So what happens if I duster then Raigeki?

>>716301624
this isn't shadowverse, anon.

Lab won (again).

>>716320349
>>716318717
>>716317363
trannies btw.

>>716320410
Still winning.

>>716320410
>giant titty lady unabashedly showing off her body wearing skimpy outfits is tranny
This gotta be the lab schizo seether from /vg/

>>716320517
>didn't deny being a tranny
lmao!

>>716320626
ywnbaw

>>716320845
That's fine, I identify as a man. You however, will never be a real man

/vg/ is laughing at us again...

After all this time he's still going at it.
How does she do it?

>>716320845
This is what winning looks like, sir.

>>716319364
youre getting more support soon so relax you dirty whore

Free Lab furniture NOW

>>716320349
what did she win?

>>716322052
lifetime supply of hrt

>>716322052
The right of standing among my decks.

>>716322052
New Dogmatika cards are turn zero disruption for Lab that turns on Lady.

>>716322052
Endless coombotranny seethe

>>716322369
>turns on lady
Don't get used to saying that string of words anon, we play yugioh here

>>716322052
As always the new trap support announced is basically just Lab support
https://ygorganization.com/rosesofmay/

>>716322369
The new cards seem good but I'm still not sure of the extent of their power. I've yet to see a really powerful interaction that sells me on them. And drawing the trap without fleur looks like it sucks.

Thread is archiving so I will admit that my bank harasses me every time I buy gems

>>716323149
>he buyoughted gems

>read comments on the new Dogmatika cards
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING LAB BASTARDS, HOW DARE THEY NOT SCOOP GOING SECOND, FUCKING BROKEN TURN ZERO CARDS THAT CAN ONLY BE ACTIVATED ON TURN 2
The mindbreak is real, this Tier 4 bitch raped shitters so hard it's hilarious

>>716323638
goldshitters complaning about "lab handrips" will never not be funny