Thread 716363601

Which Etrian would you Odyssey?

>>716363601 (OP)
your mom, which is class Fat

>>716363601 (OP)
I need to finish EO1, I got to the third zone, the underwater one, and just dropped it. It isn't a bad game but it just made me feel nervous

>>716363601 (OP)
Hexer. Why did they never bring them back? Still mad about that.

My useless dodge tank

>>716363601 (OP)
Boring game

>>716363601 (OP)
Fuck you

>>716363601 (OP)
based
>>716364410
cringe

>>716363601 (OP)
https://litter.catbox.moe/duppca.mp4

>>716364410
I like flat as much as anybody but sometimes you need a tit cow in the roster to balance things out.

>>716364410
Sorry wrong image

>>716363601 (OP)
I haven't even played it yet but I just really like this one.

>>716364746
>>716363601 (OP)

>>716364923
Nice pits.

>>716364746
BIGGER

>like 7 EO on 3DS
>No new ones on Switch just a rerelease

Do they hate money? Why no new games?

>>716365409
There is no market for dungeon crawlers, or BLOBBERS as I like to call them, in the year 2025.

>>716365737
Bandana Shark

>>716364410
Damn I almost played this game. Thanks for pointing out that the girls aren't actually sexy.

the one and only

>>716364675
Such a weird image.

>>716364120
>Why did they never bring them back?
because a dedicated ailment class just doesn't work in a game like this. if the aliments are good like eo2 they completely turn off the video game as long as you're willing to farm TP items and if they suck or easily wear off like eo1 then you essentially have a character that does nothing outside of a few free turns where the boss can't do anything useful (which means you just have a less reliable protector, basically).

etrian fixed hexer by making the aliment classes guys that do damage + aliment so even if the aliment fails you didn't literally waste your turn and 7th dragon fixed hexer by combining it with the buff class so you literally always have something useful to do + being a game entirely about fighting FOE so you're constantly fighting enemies that live long enough to justify aliment bullshit

>>716363601 (OP)
Easy choice.

>>716365646
Even most of the games on steam are just re releases from console. Sadly this seems to be true. I still like them. Kowloon High School Chronicle is great but almost no one ever talks about that one. I think its bit more popular among japanese.

>>716365875
It's an edit, anon. She really does have giant balloon tits in-game. Most EO girls are flatties/modestly sized, though.

>>716366357
Wynne makes me harder than steel.

>>716366047
I just really liked the Hexer girls design at least they could have used her design for some of the new classes or fixed hexers kit. Hexer also turned the last boss into joke in eo1 if you landed the evil eye + Suicide, boss would just beat himself up for you, aialments sure are fun. Necromancer's designs are also good in EO4.

>>716364556
I like this artist but man why is it literally only duck sucking

>>716363601 (OP)
Correction requiring smug shop loli of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0T_zIR9m60
Four more days until 7 years.

>>716367773
it's a slow roast let them cook

>>716365882
made for pregnancy

>>716364675
Love Fortran

>>716367773
Please............

Id rather 7th a dragon

>>716363601 (OP)
3 or 4

>>716363601 (OP)
It's the pirate for me

>>716371187
Shota bait

I tried to like these series but the excel spreadsheet gameplay just filters me

>>716371912
what filter my personally was farming the best equipment on the floor to kill a boss, just for the regular moobs on the next floor kill you like you are made of paper, I gave up by the floor level in etrian 3.

>>716372110
>I gave up by the """LAVA"""floor level in etrian 3.

i have to sleep.

>>716371912
>>716372110
Why does jrpg combat that isn't braindead easy filter so many people?

>>716371912
What made me like the games (more than I did) was the epiphany that my goal in EO isn't to do big damage or kill things in an epic way, it's just to explore the dungeon. I started building teams for long TP economy and general mob clearing, as well as outright mob avoidance. The big hyper optimized damage builds receive all the discussion and attention but really all you're ever doing in these games is trying to find the next shortcut before warping out, saving, and going back in. The huge skill trees are a red herring in some ways. If I could avoid all random battles, I probably would.

>>716372731
to be fair, i learned waaaay later in my life that sea exploration was kind of mandatory to help you with the dungeons, i never did them.

Easily my favorite portrait in the series and it's not even close. Back for EO's anniversary when they were making acrylic stands of any portrait you asked for, I asked for the Arbalist and Princess.

Anyways, I want you guys to answer me this.

>Favorite class (gameplay only)
>Favorite class (artistic only)
>Favorite class (overall)
>Favorite stratum
>Favorite labyrinth
>Favorite FOE
>Favorite shopkeep
>Favorite tavern
>Favorite boss
>Favorite game overall

Bonus Round
>Confession?
>Pro-Teach or Anti-Teach?

>>716372731
>nooo my game is hard!!!!
it was boring as fuck my niggerino

so does anyone know where can I find this mod?

>>716373493
It's in /eog/'s OP you dingus.

>>716374017
It's baffling that that general is still alive
thanks

>>716371187
Please tell me she's viable.

>>716373186
>>Favorite class (gameplay only)
Pugilist
>>Favorite class (artistic only)
Princess
>>Favorite class (overall)
Gunner
>>Favorite stratum
Petal Bridge
>>Favorite labyrinth
3's one
>>Favorite FOE
I don't remember a single one by name anymore
>>Favorite shopkeep
Edie
>>Favorite tavern
I don't remember the name but 2's one
>>Favorite boss
Crystal Dragon
>>Favorite game overall
2U

>>716374229
Every class is viable (yes, even Farmer). Buccaneer isn't top tier but it has one of the big dick damage skills so it can more than hold its own. Its class skill also lets it spam skills more than any other class early on so it's actually one of the best at the beginning.

I like EO

>>716376584
You fucking freak.

Missy is the best

>>716367773
>The time gap between NEXT teaser and now is slowly getting closer to the original EO release and the NEXT teaser.

They'll never make it never make it, Don't you see they can't make it? Never make it never ever make it never

>>716363601 (OP)
ol' reliable

>>716367773
Please understand it took 5 years to make a hideous Persona clone. Atlus are inept.

I might start playing the EO series soon. Anything i should know before starting?

>>716374215
Late but just in case, you have to use the mod manager to make it work or it will crash

I recently realized DRPGs are a bad genre.
It combines mediocre combat with mediocre puzzle solving/exploration, and combining the two is not necessarily better.
Jack of all trades situation, I could be playing a better puzzle game or a better RPG instead of a game inferior at two things at once.

>>716383523
Midwit comment

>>716383186
Always carry two Warp Wires / Ariadne Threads. Do not interact with squirrels.

>>716383523
It's a massive time sink. I do like Himukai a lot but I can't be grind for hours anymore.

I dug out my old DSi XL and a random flashcart that still works. What's the appeal of this series? Might add it to my backlog.

>>716384865
Challenging combat, lots of viable party builds, fun dungeons, drawing your own maps, top tier soundtrack, great artstyle.

are the etrian odyssey guys dead? are they even up to anything currently?

>>716385185
They're part of Fatlus which means they're stuck in the Persona mines.

>>716383186
Blondes deal extra damage

>>716365882
>>716366081
>>716373186
Delicious.

>>716385185
I'm pretty sure they worked on Metaphor, since one of the dungeons in that was a 1:1 recreation of an Etrian Odyssey map.

>>716384865
>Mapping
>Stratum mechanics
>Overworlds
>Beautiful art music and setting that inspired a notably creative fandom
>Crucial guild building and skill selection rewards planning
Definitely look the skills up online before choosing cause some are bugged and you aren't told what you're actually investing in. It's not spoiling anything at all you still have to figure what's good and when by yourself. Skip 1+2 just play the updated Untold versions in my opinion unless you're an old school rpg fan. All these games had pocket lint for budgets EO is nearly a guerrilla project.
>https://www.intothelabyrinth.net/etrianodyssey3/skillsim/

>>716366047
They were buffed in EO1 remaster.

>>716383186
orange ball bad

>>716363601 (OP)
I'd rather travel my Nanako

I enjoyed the games. Don't know why you have to make such a faggot thread, but if we get to talk about EO I'll allow it.

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@716388580
Not your personal army.

Ricky game is the best.

>>716389746
>grimoires
hah good joke

Did the collection flop?

>>716393367
Speaking personally, I didn't buy it because it's a unique scenario where the retards leaked a non-denuvo version before updating it to have denuvo
I will always prefer the better version of a game

look at this sticc

>>716394339
Best class.

>>716395525
very stick

I am making an EO ripoff since Atlus won't make a new game. What are your favorite elements from the series?

>>716367773
Honestly, it's probably for the best. Atlus hasn't been good for over a decade at this point.

>>716396330
Its difficult. It's got cute girls. You can draw the map. The music is nice.

>>716396330
Yggers

>>716384441
Honestly, this. I love the series but I never finished any game because they just take too much time. Time I didn't have back then and even less of now.

>>716396330
>like
Cute girls
Careful inventory management
Manual mapping
Plot
>dislike
How some classes unlock late-game and you never use them because you have to grind up a whole new set of characters

>>716363601 (OP)
Eye patch Dragoon

>>716396330
The presentation. The visuals and music are top notch and I can't see an even smaller dev matching, let alone surpassing it.
The difficulty of the games and balancing is also great. Wish the later games weren't so easy though.

>>716396330
Binds/ailments generally working on bosses
A lot of infliction skills also deal damage so the turn isn't wasted if it fails

>>716396330
Art style, unusual classes, build/party flexibility.

>>716397346
I think it'd be hard to surpass but there's still a lot of small ways the series could be improved. Things like map icons being clearer or having more obvious uses, respeccing and skill/talent descriptions, there's so much. If a skill costs more and does less damage, the player should know.

>>716396330
I like how flexible the game is and how many approaches there are, tanks and healers are optional, party size of maximum isn't always optimal, consumables are really strong but you never NEED to use them.
The game is easy to pickup and play but the skill ceiling is insane, from basic bitch tank and healer party to soloing superbosses and everything in between etrian's got it all.

>>716396330
>>716397997
That reminds me about consumables, Etrian games are pretty unique in that they put enough consumables in chests between bosses that you can use your entire stock on 1 boss kill and still have some more by the time you have to fight another one, whether that's through unlocking new ones or getting more from chests. It's the RPG series that broke my healing item hoarding tendency.

>>716396330
My favourite thing is that your party is characters you make/name yourself. If you don't make and name your own party, it's not EO.

What is the best entry point, Untold 1, Eo4 or the PC collection of the first 3 entries (or just playing the ds versions)?

>>716363601 (OP)
Fanservice is so disgusting on non h-games

>>716398403
EO4 is where /v/ recommended I start when I first played. I think I'd agree.
It's a little easier than the other games in the series, but no so much easier that it's brainless, it's still a challenge.
Some people say "You can't go backwards in EO becasue you'll miss QoL features!!" but that's never bothered me. I went from 4 on 3DS to 1 on DS, wasn't an issue at all.

Untold is shitty, I wouldn't bother unless you're a big fan of the series.

>>716398403
It doesn't really matter. They're all the same game, for better or worse.

>>716398446
>t. homosexual

>>716396330
I know you guys like drawing maps but I'd much rather have it so it auto maps.
Maybe you can place specific markers but I'd rather focus on combat and puzzle solving

>>716398403
The PC versions are basically just better DS versions.
I'd recommend playing them in order, but you can start with EO4 if you'd like.

>>716389746
le millenom girl

>>716398403
EOU2 hard mode modded so the bonus classes are unlocked from the start.

>>716398403
I just don't think it matters a ton, as long as you understand the pros and cons of starting with an older game. I started with EO4 not for any profound reason, but because I had a 3DS and I saw the big titty quest lady and I liked the aesthetics and there was a demo and that's that. Had it been some other EO, I'd have started with that instead, and probably still liked it.
4 is amazing, though, but it's not like I've had a bad time playing the other games. They're all pretty similar.

>>716398741
EOU2 doesn't have unlockable classes

>>716367773
I'm pretty sure whatever there was of EO next has been repurposed into Metashit: ReFaggotry

>>716398792
Fafnir Knight

>>716398792
Fafnir Knight and Highlander

>>716373186
>Favorite class (gameplay only)
Nexus Highlander
>Favorite class (artistic only)
Fafnir
>Favorite class (overall)
Highlander
>Favorite stratum
Empyreal Bridge
>Favorite labyrinth
V, love the insane variety of environments
>Favorite FOE
Dinotyrant
>Favorite shopkeep
Winne
>Favorite tavern
Cass's, because of Cass
>Favorite boss
Untold 2's Ur-Child
>Favorite game overall
V
Bonus Round
>Confession?
I think 1 and 2 are relatively weak entries and shouldn't be recommended to people entering the series.
>Pro-Teach or Anti-Teach?
Don't care enough to choose

>>716396330
Mostly mechanical stuff from 3 onwards
>tight resource management between limited inventory and TP
>building your units up slowly with SP and having the tiered TP cost increase (i.e. at 4/8 and 8/8 points) as opposed to having it increase each level
>well balanced gear progression (namely the 3ds titles) where you can expect well paced upgrades over the course of the whole stratum, with anomalous large leaps in power from an FOE drop that will make whoever gets a weapon from it feel like a king for that stratum
>high (300%+) damage modifiers on skills so that the game doesn't make excessive use of the Attack command like 1, makes expending TP feel impactful
>class self synergy, shining example of which is Nexus Highlander with Delayed Charge activating Bloody Veil and allowing for a strong Spear Reversal next turn
>enemies with a variety of roles that make figuring out how much tp to spend and on which target an interesting puzzle for each different party you play through
>enemy synergy, like one enemy with a leg bind skill and another with a high damage multi hit that has low accuracy
>a secondary combat resource ala Limit/Force
>ailments being effective against bosses and worth using a party slot for
>whatever math the untold games and onwards had as opposed to weird shit like immunize in 1

>>716399008
Highlander isn't unlockable normally since it's literally DLC.

How different is the art in the Switch/PC ports and is there a good website for comparing the art?
I know there used to be websites for team planning that had portraits, but it's been so long since I looked at them idk what's up-to-date or not.

>>716363601 (OP)
It took me way too long to realize that thing next to her eye is not a tear, it's the fluff of her jacket

>>716365737
>Love Bandana Shark
>Hate EO4 Landy
It's not fair, why is the best Shark design stuck in the worst Landy? And why was 4 Landy the one they decided to bring back for Nexus?

>>716364115
lmao the same happened to me, but instead of nervousness i just got bored. Maybe i should have mixed my party a bit but i really didn't want to level a lot of goons again. Anons said EO1 is the meme game to start and that you should start with EO3 so maybe i'll try that soon.

>>716401950
They're the same. Switch just has somewhat lower quality sprites.

>>716402715
>>716401950
Sorry, I just re-read my post and I completely fucked up becasue I'm a retard.

I meant to say;
>How different is the art in the Switch/PC ports compared to the 3DS

Please excuse me.

>>716402695
1 has the most boring classes of the series (which Untold Classic does very little to fix) outside of Hexer and Dark Hunter. Everyone else is your stock standard RPG archetype and in fact all the best classes in the game fit into those. 3 or 4 should always be the starting point for newcomers because 1 will fail to capture the high points of the series that differentiate it from other drpgs (aside from presentation).

>play metaphor because I'm told it's persona
>it's actually etrian odyssey
GOD DAMMIT

>>716402850
Much clearer.
Other than the 5th portraits per class and the ATLUS cameo DLC portraits, the art's basically upscaled.

>>716402850
It's the exact same art, but obviously the Switch/PC version are higher resolution, and there's a bunch of new portraits.

>>716403205
Oh that's really nice to see, I was worried the art would be changed significantly.

>>716398403
1HD if you are open minded and want to see the series evolve with each entry.
3HD if you want a more polished and refined entry point, it's the game where the series started to actually get a foot on their most recognizable features
4 if you want a more beginner friendly entry where it's pretty much impossible to make a bad party
1 Untold Classic if you're an actual psycho masochist
5 if you just want to jump into the best game in terms of dungeon design

2 is pretty much 1.5, it's better than 1 but it's still a bit rough
Do not start with 2U or Nexus.
Nexus is a celebeation of every EO game and 2U will suck the soul out of your body with how tedious bosses are if you don't know how to build an actually good team with synergy.

2U and 5 are the best ones, my favourite is 2U.

>>716403313
If you were concerned about that, none of the original art was censored or modified for the HD remasters.
The only issues most people have is the mapping not being as cozy and some just not liking the font.

>>716403313
Well, most of the new portraits clash with the art that was done over 10 years later, but you don't have to use them

>>716396330
Party synergy is a must.
The bind system is huge, especially when an enemy's design conveys which bind is the most effective.
Obviously statuses being effective in general is mandatory.

When's the last time OEHD went on sale on steam?

>>716403520
17-18 years

>>716363601 (OP)
I'd even take the bunny.

>>716403589
2 weeks ago it got a 60% discount

>>716403401
>it's pretty much impossible to make a bad party
Medic x5

>>716374229
Bucc is part of the most busted class combo in the game. Bucc+2/3 shogun princess can 2-3 round the super boss

>>716404046
Unfortunately, Shoguns with a Bucc subclass do a better job at that.

>>716403835
>EO1
Will be really rough but if you survive the early game you'll be unkillable and shit out damage
>EO2
Maybe not as unkillable as 1 but they still shit out damage

>>716404160
I'm specifically responding to EO4.

>>716404128
Barely. It's just a slight stat difference

>>716404302
I've done that though. 4 is easy enough and there's subclassing.

>>716364410
No, fuck you. I like the series but the constant flat tries my patience sometimes. Couldn't even be bothered to sneak in a decent pair of tits as one of the DLC portraits.

>>716404302
EO4 medic is solo viable iirc. You should have said 5 Snipers.

>>716366310
giwtwm…

>>716403835
Not so fast

>>716402948
>wants to play a bad game
>is tricked into playing a good game instead
If every dungeon in modern atlus game was on par with shinjuku they would dominate the genre

>>716403768
Thank you

>top tier character designs wasted on a shadowgate clone
I will never not be mad.

>>716364410
SEXO

Next Stage status?

>>716406575
7-year anniversary of the announcement in 4 days.

>>716406629
trust. the. plan.

>>716406575
It's over buddy boyo

>>716403724
That's a dog

>>716406756
It’s not over…I won’t let it be over

What's himukai doing these days

>>716407954
He did work for Monkarufanta (Experience game, so it's trash) and is working on that Arc Sys game (which has the director from Disgaea, so it's trash) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv5WxE-kLGM

>>716406758
yes but bunny gets a nice mention cause I posted the dog.

How do anons approach FOEs? Do you try to kill them first time you meet them? Maybe never kill them during stratum progression?

>>716409680
Depends on the game, if they're blocking a tedious path, or I'm just strong enough to kill them.

>>716409680
>map the entire stratum
>backtrack and commit Total FOE Death
Simply put.

>>716409680
I try to kill them when I reach the next stratum or when not killing them will result in death by 1000 cuts from walking on hazards. Also, if I get backed into a corner and can't escape, then I will try.

>>716408284
Looks like shit. shame

>>716407954
Getting cancelled for working on Fire Emblem Heroes

>>716411193
>Getting cancelled
Again?

>>716409680
I just treat them as environmental hazards to be avoided. They're not really interesting to fight, so unless there's some incentive to kill them, I move on.

I just finished EO1 and about to start EO2 should I just ignore quests like I did with 1, the rewards were mega shit and most of the time they were really dumb like that one survive 5 days in certain stratum floor.

>>716411193
That never happened, nobody cares about twitter trannies

>>716412234
The best part of quests in EO is always the EXP you get from them. Also the "Survive one week" quest is one of the best in EO1

>>716413017
it was a good excuse to level the rest of my classes

>>716412234
Unlike all of the other games, the postgame stratum in EO2 is actually locked behind a set of bar quests. And Cass and Lagaard's characters are far more likeable and interesting than Valerie and Etria's cast.

>>716413017
>>716413117
Walking back and forth on floor 8 wasn't that fun experience but I also leveled up my other classes during that quest as well.

>>716363601 (OP)
The one you posted, I was so sad to learn that the whip class was bad when I emulated 2, now the remaster fixed them so I'm happy

Playing 4, I met the stick people and now need to rescue that retard so I can deliver her letter.
Party is Lanny, shieldy, dancy, healy, and debuffy.

>>716363601 (OP)
I prefer Labyrithing my 2hu

>>716413534
>whip class was bad when I emulated 2, now the remaster fixed them so I'm happy
Remaster didn't fix the class at all. It was already one of the strongest classes in 2.

I remember buying and playing 3 on the DS cuz the boxart was interesting and being a mix of disappointed yet invested throughout my experience.

I had very little idea of what I was doing, and I wished my party members said more or had more interaction with each other but even back then I realized it was more of a "use your imagination" type game.

I have no idea if my team was good or not but I did name them after old online friends. For some reason, I mostly remember sailing.

is that eo-themed pokemon hack worth playing?

>>716413731
Unironically less dead series than EO

>>716414850
It's not even close to complete last I checked, but definitely worth watching.

>>716409680
Most of them have items that are useful for the stratum boss so I make sure to kill them at least once before then. Typically once they're yellow it's doable, but some are possible even while red if you have good game knowledge.
Some EOU2 FOEs break that rule for me, though. Flame Drakes and Hell Dragons are such fucking bullshit that you might as well just kill the stratum boss if you think you're strong enough to take one out.

>>716413489
HEXER SEXOOOOO

>>716416456
Why her cooter out?

>>716413731
WHEN IS TRI RELEASING 3PESO?!
I FUCKIN' NEED IT!

>>716373186
>Favorite class (gameplay only)
Imperial from EO4
>Favorite class (artistic only)
Blonde Eyepatch Dragoon from EO5 (Granny rover from 5 is close runner up)
>Favorite class (overall)
Arcanist maybe? Dark Hunter? idk... hard to pick just one
>Favorite stratum
Fetid Necropolis
>Favorite FOE
Rapealope.
>Favorite shopkeep
Shilleka
>Favorite tavern
Probably 3's
>Favorite game overall
Probably 5? 3 and 4 are close.

Bonus Round
>Confession?
I don't fuck with the 6th stratums
>Pro-Teach or Anti-Teach?
Pro-Teach. Pro-Mediko. Pro-Flatress.

>>716413731
If this is what the labyrinths look like the combat better be fucking fantastic.

Are there any other games like the EO series? I love this world of cute girls and the little events on the floors that don't really add anything other than a little flavor to your run. I also like being able to choose portraits instead of having a set look for each class and the multiple ways of building the same classes. I also love how absurdly FLAT some of these girls are.

>>716414850
it's meh
the new variants and shitmons getting buffed was cool though

>>716417369
It's one of the best blobber combat systems there is

Should I labyrinth this refrain?

>>716417389
7th Dragon on the DS. It's old and you'll have to be able to stomach some old game design quirks but it's very charming and EO adjacent. It's not a 1st person dungeon crawler but combat is very similar and I personally love the character designs for the portraits. Lots of cute flat girls classes. It was never officially released in English but there's a fan translation patch so you'll need to find that. It also has Yuzo Koshiro on the music, same guy that does EO's music.

>>716417992
Yes. Refrain is very bland mechanically, but the story (especially the post game) is fantastic.

>>716417992
Why are all the most interesting portraits locked until to do some bullshit in the game

>>716374215
it's >ded actually

>>716396330
FOE

Recommend me dungeon crawlers/DRPGs, no matter how obscure and shitty-looking
Have played:
>Wizardry
>Might and Magic
>Bard's Tale
>Grimrock
>Elminage
>Etrian Odyssey
>Touhou Labyrinth
>Grimoire
>Mary Skelter Nigthmares
>Stranger of Sword City

>>716418691
Dungeon Travelers 2 and 2-2
Labyrinth of Refrain
Touhou: Artificial Dream in Arcadia
SMT: Strange Journey
Islands of the Caliph

>>716418691
Icewind Dale is a lot like a western D&D version of Etrian Odyssey

>>716363601 (OP)
The dancer. Always the dancer is my first choice to 'Odyssey' if you know what I mean. damn brat is asking for it.

>>716419925
what do you mean by that?

>>716419156
>>716419238
Thank you. Keep em coming anons

Etriam + Final Fantasy 5 would be banging

>>716418691
The Dark Spire is an EOlike also published by Fatlus in NA

>>716418691
Labyrinth of Refrain/Galleria. The former has worse gameplay but the visuals of the dungeon are better. Galleria has voring visual differences between the dungeons but the gameplay is far better as is the VN-like story due the better pacing.

>>716398912
It did have Lost Shinjuku...

>>716418691
What about Kowloon and Undernauts?

>>716418691
Witch & Lilies - A yuri themed EO1 clone full of the sort of jank the later Etrian games phased out. It's an early access title but it feels complete and includes post-game superbosses.

>>716418691
Shining: The Holy Ark. If possible emulated, since it runs like shit on the Sega Saturn.

>>716363601 (OP)
Every dungeon crawler has a moment where everything clicks, and I get fully immersed. I still remember when I was playing IV and everything hit when Faith is My Pillar kicked in. Your guild is cut off, alone in the unknown territory, and the only thing they have to rely on is their faith in their fellow guild members and their faith in their own ideals. Then this banger starts.

>party building as EO noob be like
I need to strike a balance between damage tanking healing and support
>party building as EO expert be like
moar damage lmao

>>716423579
this one sucked

>>716424964
Fuck you I liked it

>>716425198
you can like bad games, but it's objectively bad

>>716423579
Nta but I'm waiting for it to be finished before trying it out. The devs have gone quite for a while now so I hope they're still trying to finish it.

>>716424871
It depends on the game really.
1 your party is the unmovable object
2 your party is the unstoppable force
3 wants you to do both
4 doesn't care what you do cause it'll just work.
It's really hard to be defensive in 5
Nexus wants you to be as Unstoppable force as possible.

>>716418691
Check out Class of Heroes if you’re feeling masochistic. Super grindy, tons of jank, and your party will wipe constantly from nonsense status effects-you’ll love it. Also look into Operation Abyss and Operation Babel, they’re from the same devs as Stranger of Sword City but more anime-y and feature the same brutal “hope you spec’d right or die” energy. Oh, and for deep cuts: Relevations: The Demon Slayer on GBC has that proto-SMT dungeon crawl feel.

>>716417968
>swap Yuugi in
>punch enemy
>swap Yuugi out
>this is the optimal strategy for the entire game
The balance sucks. 3 is looking better in that regard at least since the combat system has some more gimmicks to it.

>>716426207
It wasn't always Yuugi. Sometimes it was Suika too.

>>716422285
NTA but Kowloon is one of my favourite DRPGs, it's extremely unique and really nails the feeling of exploring an ancient ruin like no other DRPG ever has. The balance is all kinds of fucked though, late-game really becomes retarded with enemy movement and attack ranges.
My dream game would be something similar but with better balance and with an open-ended design instead of the chapter by chapter progression.

>>716426536
I heard there is epilogues or something for all the characters, like you can date some of your class mates or something or is that only in the enhanced version that's not localized? I think the steam/switch versions are just the OG game? Mary Skelter was pretty great cause you could marry your favorite girl at the end.

>>716426828
The English release is indeed a port of the original release which is missing extra content from the enhanced PS2 release, the devs said it was to help preserve the original and because porting the PS2 version would've been enough extra work to be outside their budget. It's a shame but it's a miracle it got translated in the first place given how long it is and how badly it bombed.
But yeah there are various character endings, some are only in the PS2 version but the PC/Switch version still has a lot of them and many optional party members. The requirements are very strict and esoteric though so good luck getting the one you want (eg. one character's ending requires you to dodge right rather than left when given an option at one point with zero indication of how this will be relevant). I see it as part of the charm but at the same time it's definitely going to be offputting to many people.

>>716427223
>The requirements are very strict and esoteric though
This is part of the fun imo. Would be still fun to check out the requirements after you beat the game. Is there some site where you can check out that stuff? There doesn't seem to be many resources at all in english for this game, seems like its cult classic status is only in Japan.

>>716428515
>Is there some site where you can check out that stuff? There doesn't seem to be many resources at all in english for this game, seems like its cult classic status is only in Japan.
There are a few English sites for the game mechanics (which is helpful since some of the randomly generated quest directions are mistranslated) but the one that has a rundown of all the story and party mechanics is in Japanese and I can't find it again.

>>716397147
Great design.

>>716430013
im grabbing the grumpy lady in the back as my party member

>>716429885
Eh I'll just look for it after I'm done beating the game. Its sad that no one has done a proper digging in english about this game, so far I'm really digging it and its really unique with its mechanics.

>>716363601 (OP)
Hex. Obviously.

How the fuck do I use one of these? I genuinely have an easier time making a Farmer useful.

>>716431381
Lion

>>716431381
rush elephant and enjoy your 4 free turns on bosses
both elephant and tiger are great for random encounters too, especially if you have a zodiac for dark ether letting you skip the unsummon skill.

>>716431381
Filling the 6th slot with an extra stat stick is inherently useful

>>716363601 (OP)
Can she dispense breastmilk?

>>716363601 (OP)
Twintail Monk for me

>>716363601 (OP)
The youngest one

dude the games are made by 3 people
3 people that are in the dying age range

it's not going to happen

>>716418691
Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land

>>716418691
Potato Flowers in Full Bloom
Dungeon Travelers: To Heart 2
Monsters of Mican
Dungeon Encounters

>>716434604
the director of 3 on just directed SMT V.
and the team in charge of this series has been swapped around before.
also a glance at any game's staff credits will tell you it's more than 3 people.

>>716436730
>also a glance at any game's staff credits will tell you it's more than 3 people.
autistmo pls

>>716379685
stream that film if you're so great

>>716438973
Imagine the smell.

>>716402947
>1 will fail to capture the high points of the series that differentiate it from other drpgs
Can you elaborate a little more? I started etrian from EO1 HD and while it's pretty barebones I liked it, the start of the game makes you genuinely afraid of dying and losing your progress + you can draw your own map the way you want it to be. Every dungeon crawler should give the player the option to at least highlight interest points, eridanus' teleport maze from SMT strange journey would've been genuinely enjoyable if the game had map customization.
Etrian 2 was better in pretty much every way. Currently playing 3

>>716440791
Forgot to add
>the start of the game makes you genuinely afraid of dying and losing your progress...
...only for it to become a cakewalk halfway through the game, but most JRPGs are like this anyway

>>716363601 (OP)
I wonder what my party from 4 is doing right now after saving the world thrice over. I wonder if that Landsknecht and Bushi started to get along, or are still arguing over who's stronger. Did Sniper and Medic settle down or go their separate ways? I know Dancer definitely sold all her stuff to live hedonistic, especially that end game pin. I guess they all just became townies, living normal lives.

So this series is entirely popular because of the anime girls and you just pretend the gameplay is good?

>>716442648
Other way around. theres nothing similar to wizardry 8, it's the same thing for EO #3,4,5 there are no other JRPGs with the mechanics that those games have.

Amazing Art, Amazing Music, Amazing Gameplay.

>>716442648
You got it. We were just pretending for 6 games and 2 spin-offs.

>>716442648
>Having to post bait just to bump the thread
Sad.

>>716403401
>1 Untold Classic if you're an actual psycho masochist
why? I already made a party

>>716443095
to be fair labyrinth of refrain exists

>>716443287
Classic party does not get access to the story dungeon so at some points of the progression most noticeably around 3rd stratum you are several levels lower where you're supposed to be and difficulty sharply increases.
EOU1 also has probably the hardest overall postgame in the series, claret hollows is literal hell.

>>716418691
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2395150/Demon_Lord_Reincarnation/
Same dev has a couple others

>>716443556
I guess I should pirate the pc version then

>>716433935
So the one furthest right

>>716443556
the party doesn't really interact with their skills, it's as basic as it gets shit sucks.

>>716443724
I think untold is still far superior to the original but u do u m8.

>>716366081
>that subtle and intentional vulva shape in the panty's highlight

a best
a BEST

>>716444694
holy fucking FLAT

>oh shit. EO composer has been hired for an indie drpg
>it's some wierd autoexplore programming thing

Eh. I'll keep an eye on reviews at least

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2731030/Algolemeth/

>>716446014
AI looks wrong in so many places, it's just generic shart, then again the old man keeps drawing fat bitches

Imagine the cowgirl sex

>>716443556
>at some points of the progression most noticeably around 3rd stratum you are several levels lower where you're supposed to be and difficulty sharply increases.
This is a lie repeated often enough that people think it's true. The third stratum is just a difficulty spike in general. Gladsheim monsters give fuck all for exp and even the bosses are only about a quarter of a level, equivalent of a couple FOE kills.

>>716363601 (OP)
My Hero

>>716446926
I like her little sister more

>>716413731
it's equally funny that this is the only EO fangame

>>716431381
RNG abusers, it isn't just Scylla

>>716418691
>no matter how obscure and shitty-looking
Infinite Adventures. Characters look pretty shitty, good Dungeon Crawler though.

>>716417992
Bold and Brash

>>716374229
I'm an idiot and I got through EO3 on DS with her on the frontline with pincushion

EO3 is pretty busted in the player's favor.

>>716383186
Don't generalize a character. Focus on one thing.

Party comp is everything. Look for skills that synergize.

Keep extra warp items.

Sometimes (often times) people will make a "farm party" that exists to mine and collect food and shit. Good for cash but also shop inventory relies on you pulling in more shit.

Enemies will drop different items sometimes based on if a body part is.bound or if you hit a weakness. NPCs might give you hints, and you can check the bestiary. It becomes obvious: a monster with big claws or horns should probably be bound in their arms or head.

>>716383186
Once you get access always carry an Ariadne Thread

>>716451670
Always carry three*

>>716451858
I don't see the point. The ritual is always to warp out and sell at the shop so you're already there and pick up the next thread.

>>716451935
You carry three just in case you forget to restock it

>>716452021
>forget
I'm a professional.

>>716452107
Himukai is a big Elder Scrolls fan so every now and again I picture what a EOxTES crossover would be like. Your Todd made me think about it again.

>>716451858
i always carried two because there was an event in one of the games that took 1 thread iirc

>>716363601 (OP)
The garbage portrait arts ruin the aesthetics of these games

How does it work w/o a stylus anyways? Standard automap?

>>716408284
Crazy they still let anybody involved with Disgaea make decisions. That art looks bad, that's himukai?

>>716452107
>squirrel'd

>>716452842
Yes, Himukai's art became much heavier on the chiaroscuro. You could already tell with how rounded and blobby things got with Nexus's Heroes and Vampires and NPCs.
https://www.rpgsite.net/news/17759-monkarufanta-the-hero-crystal-girl-character-jobs-revealed

>>716452554
You draw lines on a grid and fill out panels.
Automap also functions for most/all? of the games if you toggle it on settings.
Full automap is in a few of the newer ones.
You still have to put down your own icons for spots on the map like doors, events, gathering spots, etc.

>>716453363
Does the full automap fill under doors?

>>716452963
Horny shittu

I think aside from the character art the big thing for me in this series is the nice skill trees and the way the builds interact

>>716411193
never happened you retarded tranny

>>716455719
That's fucking dogshit, Himukai is washed up

>>716456076
seethe

>>716371187
>her class is bucc
>and she's here to fucc

>>716363601 (OP)
No untold, no 4,5, Nexus, Mystery dungeon or a new entry.
Terrible remaster.

>>716364410
>these replies
Huh, maybe this series is better off dead

>>716458896
Naw

>>716420521
>>716421764
>>716422285
>>716423579
>>716423856
>>716434808
>>716434940
>>716443562
>>716450176
Thank you anons. Some names I've never heard of in there.

I don't want to go to the 6th stratum, can I just pretend there is no post game in eo1 and go to eo2...

>>716462289
The post game is the game. Everything before that is a glorified tutorial.

>>716462289
Suffering through Claret Hollows is a rite of passage

>>716426207
Yuugi really didn't need defense penetration on her big punch skill

>>716458602
They're literally the same games with shit that didn't work fixed.

>>716453363
Makes sense, thanks anon. I remembered having to slap down the poison tile icon manually even after clearing the room in EO3. Kinda wish they'd let the automap handle that too, especially for the more obvious crap like doors or shortcuts-you already walked through it, why keep babying the pen tool?

Still, I get it. Mapping is half the ritual.

>Playing EO2 Untold story mode for the first time
>Forgot how comfy largaard was
damn now I remember why I have a softspot for 2.

Personally I like 1 a lot better than 2. It sucks that Hexer and Ronin are worthless shit classes but they are unlockable. 2 has the issue of having so many worthless skills that it doesnt feel fun going to a wikia to see which skills are worth anything. The ;Labyrinth in 1 is also more interesting, as are the FoE mechanics, where as killing FoEs in 2 just feels like aids if you want access to their items

>>716372825
I love just the feeling of slowly making more and more progress in a dungeon. I love the early-game grind of barely being able to handle two or three fights before having to head back. I miss it so fucking much. I wish I could replay and have it feel fresh again.

>>716462289
Honestly yes the sixth stratum of EO1 is boring aids and totally not worth the effort. Whereas the sixth strata of EO2/3/4/5 are amazing.

I only liked 4 and 5's post game dungeons. I thought the space and the weird ass aliens were cool as hell and I thought 4's postgame struck a great balance. 1 was cancer 2 was easily cheesed, 3 was just kinda boring and didnt even change the battle music which felt lame, even though Those That Slay and Fall is a 10/10 track like most of the music in the series, it just didnt sit right

>>716465902
>Nexus made Artelinde hotter
pretty based

>>716403520
I think his old art was just more charming in every way. Maybe just me. EO2 is the peak for me (artwise).

>>716363601 (OP)
What's with all the Etrian odyssey threads lately? Not complaining because this series is so fun to play

>>716465973
>3 was just kinda boring and didnt even change the battle music which felt lame

It was due to space limitations I think. They fixed it in the remake.

https://youtu.be/BTP3gNcw64I

>>716465973
3 had a unique postgame boss theme instead

EO3 is the peak game I don't care what others say

I knew it was peak when I gimmicky team beat the red FOE in the second stratum and managed to skip a passive puzzle and went straight to the boss

>>716466421
I just hate the class balance. It makes no sense to me. I felt punished for picking the classes I wanted. Only game where I felt like that.

>>716363601 (OP)
I bought the collection on steam bros, are there any milf big titty mods?

>>716373186
>Favorite class (gameplay only)
Toss-up between Dark Hunter and Necromancer, but I think Necromancer wins out because of how well realized it is. I recently played EOV with a party of a Dragoon, Pugalist, and 3 Necromancers and it was absurdly fun
>Favorite class (artistic only)
Protector, really love armor, and the new portrait in HD was great, Dragoon is a close second.
>Favorite class (overall)
Dark Hunter, I have a soft spot for the Pink drill one and im upset they didnt make it into Nexus
>Favorite stratum
Definitely Lost Shinjuku, cool as hell
>Favorite labyrinth
V's, no stratums felt boring where as a few of the other ones felt like they had a rather middling 2
>Favorite FOE
Mantis/Stalker class. Always very cool and very imposing.
>Favorite shopkeep
Shilleka. Pure sex.
>Favorite tavern
Kvasir was pretty based when I was playing through Nexus, but I forgot how good Cass was. Id have to say Cass
>Favorite Innkeeper
Dalla
>Favorite Adventurers Guild Leader
Egar
>Favorite boss
Seyfried+Olympia
>Favorite game overall
3. It just does everything quite well.

>>716466515
Really? I thought it was pretty solid overall. Only class that was kind of gimped was the Wildling because Ailments in EO3 are unfortunately weak, it would've been improved if Enemy Resistance to Ailments reset after so many turns like it does in later games

>>716466515
I felt like all the classes were easy enough to work with except for Yggdroid. I have no idea what the fuck is up with the Yggdroid but I have never built in a way that felt satisfying.