Thread 716398419

Self-improvement and aspiring to be a stronger man for your friends and family are values any real man should appreciate. Yet when gamers finally get that story of sincerity and manhood they hate it.

>>716398419 (OP)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1akAO-6fUc
So true saar

You say man I say ho

>gamers finally get that story of sincerity and manhood they hate it.
GoW 1-3 are universally revered tho. same reason why Gay of Sòy is such a meme.

>>716398419 (OP)
That's great, but also irrelevant because the real question "should a game stay forever the same because that's what fans liked in the first place?". At what point should, for example, Fallout turn into proper rebuilding after a post-apocalypse rather than forever be about scavenging malls and metros for scrap?

>>716398419 (OP)
Do they really? I think the games sold millions.
Maybe you're just projecting your own views through some kind of severe mental illness.

>>716398594
God of War is about a bunch of unlikable assholes behaving in unreasonable ways. Gay of Sòy is still about a bunch of unlikable assholes behaving in unreasonable ways.

is it just me or are there alot of men around who look like or at least be willing to defend there women physically or otherwise at all costs
is it a lost art

make a fucking game teaching boys to be men

>>716398513
where's the game that teaches women to be better women?

>>716398419 (OP)
left is sexier than right

>>716398419 (OP)
>BASEDtos

ENTER THE BETTER MAN

>>716398419 (OP)
we must be better man for our wives sons

>>716398841
*not around

is it more nurture than nature also?
where are all the vikings or spartans gone
fun fact: if you have son in your name, that was meant to be a way of marking the sons of chiefs or notable warriors and making bloodlines

>>716398996
Women don't need games like that because they're already perfect.

>>716398419 (OP)
>Gameplay bad
>Snoy movies good

>>716398419 (OP)
nobody cares about your cuck story, man. nu-kratos is a fucking cuck. he literally married a single mom, lmao. I didn't even buy ragnarock. Fuck sony and console fags

>>716399003
Okay troon.

divorce rate: too many bastards around
they like to test us by seeing if we give in if we want some fuck and many such behaviors

>>716399142
Its the new post capitalism culture. Population is declining and families are out of the question since they dont buy shit they dont need. The profit is on people without kids since they have constant life crisis they need to fill with consumption. You can put here all the lqtb shit too, promoting nu males is just another sign of a dying empire.

>>716399003
kinda reminds me of lion vs tiger
lion doesn't take its shit

>>716398419 (OP)
shut up man baby

>>716398419 (OP)
they had to nerf kratos on the new games to account for the sloul slop gamplay, Simple as

The worst thing about those new GoW games is that it caused /v/ to go into contrarian mode and act like the original GoW games were actually good and not QTE overloaded shit.

>>716399803
they popularized QTE for a reason, its probably the only game utilizing them properly

>>716398419 (OP)
>kratos grows bigger the calmer he gets.
like a reverse hulk fr

NuKratos is only good for getting raped by massive orcs. He is really good at it too.

>>716398419 (OP)
>Left bigger than right
>"Kratos's height has varied across the God of War games. In the original Greek saga, he was depicted as 7 feet 8 inches (2.34 meters) tall. In the Norse saga, starting with God of War (2018), his height was reduced to 6 feet 4 inches (1.94 meters)"

LMAO, they are desperate

>>716398419 (OP)
>real man
Don't care meaningless idealism.

>>716398513
Reading the comments of that video and other video essays is outright scary. I refuse to believe that people behind those comments are actually real..

ATREUS! COME, WE MUST TALK ABOUT OUR FEELINGS!
We...must be....better men. More empathetic, docile role
models whom young men can look up to and learn
positive masculinity from. When strong independent
women, BIPOC of color, gender diverse children and
neurodivergent folk speak, we must sit down, listen and
learn how to give them a voice and empower them. We
will not go back. Now help me prep the bull for your
mother.
COME CLOSER, BOI. LET ME TEACH YOU HOW TO
CLEAN YOUR MOTHER'S VAGINAL FLUIDS FROM BULLS
DICK. NO, YOU HAVE TO GRIP IT WITH YOUR THROAT
WHILE DOING SWIRLING MOTIONS WITH YOUR TONGUE.
BE BETTER, BOI #HarrisWaltz2024 #NotGoingBack"
REPARATIONS FOR MY WIFE'S SON'S FATHER!!

do you all know the ChadDaddy himself John Cena doesn't have and doesn't want kiddos?

*Seinfeld Theme*
"What's the deal with that!?"

>>716398419 (OP)
In a vacuum, the concept of a character dealing with ghosts of their past while seeking to better themselves is a good story idea. The problem is it’s mired in the countless problems that modern games have so it gets overshadowed easily.

>>716398419 (OP)
>I am rational, emotionally well-regulated, feminist, and — of course — tall.
>I AM ANTIFEMINIST! I AM SILLY AND FLYING OFF THE HANDLE!! I AM SHORT.
Very mature depiction of the discourse.

>>716399229
>gameplay

>>716400770
i don't have time to fucking know the discourse
yes what you said went over my head

>>716398419 (OP)
Is it corny in some areas ? Absolutely.
Is the writing a little inconsistent, especially in the first game ? Definitely.

But at the core of this game is a narrative theme that I actually think is incredibly compelling, and they nail it about 75% of the time.

If you don't like it that's totally fine. But I do think gamer outrage is borne out of inability to engage with sincerity.

>>716400857
So you haven't even played the old ones huh?

>>716400857
>gow 2018 20h game / 5 h cutscenes
>ragnarok 26h game /7 h cutscenes
>both with RPG elements

>gow1 12hours of game, no filler / 20 min cutscenes


ok fag

>>716401172
Clarification; I was catagorising the reboot series seperately in my head, since they deal with drastically different themes and gameplay. That's why I said 'first game'. My b.

A real man lives for himself, a cuck lives for others.

>>716398594
they are not "universally revered" they were mocked for years as being braindead button mashing with a literal retard protag. Becoming a millennial $0¥beard cuck is actually a hilarious and deserved fate for Kratos

>>716401172
>>716401991
Thats the issue for me, its called god of war, and its nothing like the god of war games. If you want to do another game just make a new IP.

Its like releasing GTAVI and call it starcraft 3. I ts not a bad game by any means, but its a terrible starcraft game. Same here.

>>716400213
fixed

>>716402635
<3

>>716398419 (OP)
>Left one in the trans flag colors

>>716398419 (OP)
I'm 99% that classic Kratos would absolutely destroy nuKratos and it's not even close.

>>716402840
holy shit, they just cant be saved

>>716403003
Classic Kratos
>filled with rage
>motivated by vengeance
>powerful yet ruthless
>uncaring of collateral damage
>uncaring of consequences

NuKratos
>filled with onions
>calm, no vengeance
>thinks before acts
>cares about other people

Yes nuKratos is weak and pathetic. Classic Kratos would tear him apart, not even close.

>>716403924
Are you fucking 9 years old ? What is this

>>716402489
Lmao, seething DMCuck, God of War wipes the floor with your training dummy slop

Why do they keep doing this when that commercial about men for Kamala Harris was mocked by literally everyone? Your ideas already failed and this is why Trump won and there's ultra mega hyper right wing presidents everywhere too.
Just shut the fuck up and you might win an election.

>>716404031
Just saying it like it is. Nobody played GoW and were like
>you know what; I wish Kratos was a onions guzzling basedboy instead
Nobody asked for this. When I'm in the Kratos zone; I just want to break and destroy and slaughter; not whatever the nuKratos is supposed to be.

There are plenty of family friendly franchises; nobody wants to take Albert Wesker and make him a retarded basedboy with a son. Characters like Kratos; Wesker; Sephiroth etc exist to destroy and break things and in fiction; that's okay.

Nobody wants your weaksauce nuKratos.

>>716404239
Bot

>>716399142
>where are all the vikings or spartans gone
You mean the people who had no qualms raping and murdering women and children?

>>716398419 (OP)
Kek

I don’t play games to be lectured by people especially from Commiefornia of all places. I want to have fun and escape.

>>716404537
This lmao. They probably regularly beat the shit out of foids too because they were real men and not pussy whipped cucks.

A bunch of trauma dumping losers and danger haired women don't know what being a man is like. I don't want to hear their preaching.

>>716398996
women don't buy or play games

>>716398419 (OP)
Allowing cuckolding is the literal opposite of manhood. Suicide is unironically more manly.

>>716404314
Congratulations on you incredibly safe and uninteresting opinion

>>716404763
What do they do anon ? Since you know and all that.

>>716404858
And Congratulations to you on your onions opinion, basedboy. Go back to Cali so you can sip on onions with your onions dev boyfriend who weeps every night as he fucks you in the ass.

>>716404129
Based, the DMCtroons have been extra uppity since their director got fired, so it's good to see anons keeping them in check.

>>716398419 (OP)
Why do these things always translate to being subservient to women?

>>716398419 (OP)
how did Kratos get so much bigger though?

>>716405296
Wow you have no personality at all.

>>716398419 (OP)
>midwit take on the cycle of violence
>proceeds to continue the cycle of violence
>proceed to due exactly the same shit as older games but it's fine because now you're doing it for "da people's hope"
>realms still get destroyed, gods still die, kratos is still a massive retard who can't hug his son until his son has been missing/almost killed
really showed me how being better changed him

>>716398419 (OP)
Because they turned kratos into a bitch

>>716404965
play phone games and watch absurd weekend movie dramas about the most retarded shit

>>716398419 (OP)
Except they didn't get that story. They completely skipped over it and entirely changed his character off-screen.

>>716405436
>>716400213
>>716402635

He didnt actually

>>716406052
You're an idiot. But this made me chuckle, so whatever.

You do realize every single thread about this and threads which post the "We must be better men" image are bait, right?

>>716406292
You're an idiot. But in your deepest heart you know its true, so whatever.

>>716406348
No shit, Sherlock.

>>716398419 (OP)
Women should aspire to be like vidrel at the bare minimum too

>>716398996
They don't need that, women jumped headfirst into their new role of being powerpoint sluts for bossman. That's what a better woman is according to feminists, at least. Family? Fuck that, the ultimate biological imperative of women is to write emails and set up meetings on google calendar.

>Slavery with no expectation for reciprocation from society is le masculine
Why are they pushing slave mentality so hard in men, while they do opposite in women? Curious.

>>716398419 (OP)
artist who drew this is a cuck because old Kratos's model was proportionately bigger than nu-Kratos's model. Bigger in body, emotion, and appeal. artist cuck trying to invalidate old Kratos through s0ijak and chad art with extra steps.

Didn't Kratos literally destroy Ancient Greece because he decided that killing an entire pantheon was easier than accepting responsibility for his actions?

>>716398419 (OP)
Retard. Taking maximum revenge for your wife and child murdered is actually the correct value.
Raising someone elses son and having semi relations with some blown out bicycle is not a story of manhood, there is no reason to "improve" for them. Nor does kratos improve anyway, complete meme claim

>>716398905
Man, it may even be true but the guy writing it sounds so mad that I can't take this shit seriously. Stop giving a fuck about what other people think or look like and you'll be happier, I guarantee it

>>716398419 (OP)
Yonger Kratos would tear old Kratos's shit up. Violence is king and whoever can do it best will rule.

>>716398419 (OP)
>he fell for the self-improvement meme

>>716408063
Younger kratos was not actually a big fan of violence and just wanted to be left in peace. He also tried to walk away from some conficts too.
But yes, he would clap nu-kratos hard.

>>716407984
>Stop giving a fuck about what other people think or look like and you'll be happier, I guarantee it
Kek, this is some "real beauty is on the inside"-tier platitude. You know what happens when you stop giving a fuck about what other people think? They think you're a retard and won't work with you anymore.

>>716405862
>>716404858
>>716404031
>>716403003
I can feel the passive aggressive ꜱoy leaking from your every pore through the screen.
It doesn’t make you come across as mature, in fact it indicates the reverse.

>>716406365
Not being a misogynist makes me an idiot ?

>>716407107
Sort of, the events of GoW 2 started because Kratos didn’t know the reason the rest of Olympus didn’t respect him was because he was a nepobaby, but then they just kind of dropped that.

>>716408585
lmao, whats so misogynist about statistical data?

GOOOOOOOOOOODS
I WILL BE A BETTER MAAAAAAAAN

>>716408585
>muh misogyny
Kys, simpoid.

>>716398594
>sincerity
it's a reboot built on chasing trends and based on a series whose whole point was violent fun
videogames trying too hard to mimic movies and pander to game journos is anything but sincere
if sony cared about sincerity, they wouldnt let japan studio die to begin with

>>716408860
Get in the chair

>>716398419 (OP)
Nord Kratos looks cooler here than ingame.

>MEN MUST BE BETTER
>ask them to define better
>definition of 'better man' amounts to being a weak, effeminate, subservient and docile head of goycattle
yeah no thanks, keep your subversive trash

>>716398419 (OP)
>transformation is never shown or explained
>Kratos never slips when his son is not around
>Kratos is never forced to confront his old self and instead dismisses everything
It was character assassination because the game director and writer were flat out incompetent.

When is Kratos going to Egypt or the Amazon? So sick of viking shit and snow.

>>716409000
don't forget
>become effeminate like women vocally demand
>they get the ick

Being a better man isnt about denying who you were, its about using who you were to shape who you are in the future. kratos basically denied every single possible thing he could have learned from his past other than "angry bad"

>>716399036
Never will you find a purer character.

>>716408369
Don't you have a podcast you should be recording right now?

why the fuck does this meme warrant a thread every single fucking day?

>>716409170
Snoys have already played through all their exclusives multiple times, they have nothing better to do.

>>716408896
>based on a series whose whole point was violent fun
>videogames trying too hard to mimic movies and pander to game journos
So you dont have any idea what god of war games are about? Try playing them?

>>716401905
Does your time split includes shit like .webm related as gameplay or as cutscene?

>We...must be.....better men. More empathetic, docile role models whom young men can look up to and learn positive masculinity from. When strong independent women, BIPOC of color, gender diverse children and neurodivergent folk speak, we must sit down, listen and learn how to give them a voice and empower them. We will not go back.

>#HarrisWaltz2024 #NotGoingBack

>>716409271
what do you think?

>>716398725
>Gay of Sòy is still about a bunch of unlikable assholes behaving in unreasonable ways.
Except it's to the benefit of women so that's ok.

the first trilogy wasn't even about being better
it's one man who made a wrong decision and then the Gods who deceive him

>>716398419 (OP)
>left soiboy cuck reddit lord
>right god of war

>>716398419 (OP)
I don't play videogames to be pelted with current year demoralization slop.

>>716407984
Bold of you to assume anyone gives a fuck about what you think.

my favorite part about nu god of war is that they used DSP's playthrough as an example of how they do game design for idiots

>>716409721
BRO I ALREADY READ THIS MEME 5 TIMES ALREADY GET NEW MATERIAL YOU NPC DUMB FUCKS

>>716410198
5 more times until you do better and it stops bothering you.

>>716398419 (OP)
But i already do that in real life. In video games i want to be a murderous rapist fuckhead.

>>716408826
>dwarf manlet
>fisheye on second shot to make drop look bigger
>drops the plastic axes
>pussies out and curls into a ball last second

>>716398419 (OP)
>walking slowly and talking in a low voice is improvement
He doesnt do anything, and the only times in nuGoW he does anything worthwhile is when he returns to form and indulges in his rage

>>716401009
The original rendition of Kratos is depicted as irrational and silly, and also as a short man. The present rendition of Kratos who let's other men fuck his wife is fepicted as cool, calm, intelligent, and of course tall.

The artist is a fucking loser hypocrite.

>>716398419 (OP)
Nah, they skipped over the growth and delivered us nothing but a cringe self-insert for Barlog and other gamer Dads.

how much do I need to self improve for this body type?

>>716398419 (OP)
>story of sincerity and manhood
God of midlife crisis and cuckoldry.

>>716410443
Estrogen injections x1000 dragon ordnance edition

>>716408585
SO TRUE TAKE MY UPVOTE SIS

>>716409271
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA and some people paid for this

>>716410280
no shit, he would fucking die belly flopping from that far

>>716403924
What the actual fuck are you talking about. You have never played a God of War game and if you have, I suggest you try it again with your eyes open.

>>716406348
We must be better anons...

>>716408638
The point is Kratos really was a piece of shit in the old games.

>>716407107
Kratos was always somewhat justified in his motivation, his enemies always screwed him over first. It's his recklessness and insistence on getting revenge no matter what that was wrong, which led to him killing innocents and destroying everything. But really it all comes from the moment he begged Ares to save him, from that point on it could never have ended well for him.

>>716406513
Yoohee a shit. Get some taste.

>>716399360
No he didn't

Atreus IS Kratos kid its why he has his Spartan Rage

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LaR-Fqv1zlE&t=74s&pp=2AFKkAIB0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD

>>716406513
hot, holy fuck, where are these women in reality?
>>716411619
bad taste

>be better for your friends and family
>but if they treat you like shit that's ok

The real issue is that they don't actually understand the moral of forgive and forget. They take it a bit to literally and think forgiving factually horrible people is ok instead of just forgiving yourself and realizing that shit happens and it's better to move on and improve instead of dwelling on it and shutting yourself out from the world.

God of War was peak man. He realized he was betrayed, so he went to fucking kill the traitor gods. Absolute man move--he accepted he was wrong, so he corrected himself and then he went to slaughter those deceitful Olympian fuckers.

>>716398419 (OP)
But Kratos not only did not improve, he regressed. He became to cowardly to admit that, while he might have harmed people and gone too extreme, what he ultimately did was justified and right. Self-improvement would be solidifying his principles, examining his actions, and going, "Next time I will minimize loss of innocent life, but I will not hesitate to do it all again." Instead nu-Kratos runs away, makes it all about him, cries, and goes, "I should have just let the Olympians torture innocent people and make all of Greece their toddler playpen for all of eternity! I was wrong to fight to against the overblown god children!"

Kratos, for everything he did that was fucked up, was right. His enemies were evil, by every definition of the word. And, no, it was not the box being opened that did that, or else you have to ignore the thousands of years of fucked up shit, which includes all the fucked up shit done to Kratos and his family, by the Olympians prior to that. Kratos freed a people. It was at great cost, to everyone, including himself. And it is easy to judge him after the fact for being "too angry" at the injustices he endured, and that he saw others endure. But at the end of the day he was a fucking man. Not a god. Not a child. And not a faggot little cuck who gets the Olympian bull ready when it is says, "I am going to fuck your wife to death."

>>716404239
>that commercial about men for Kamala Harris was mocked by literally everyone?

I haven't seen it. How bad is it?

>>716411754
No I have excellent taste actually.
t. G36 enjoyer

>>716398905
this is because the libshit ideal of masculinity isn't a feminized man but an anthropomorphic welfare state
the only thing it actually requires is to be needed. even if it's in an impersonal or selfish way

>>716398419 (OP)
What bad thing did old Kratos do that nu-Kratos improves upon?

>>716408826
I take cold showers every morning bro this ain't shit

>>716410592
>I refuse to get with a women who has a past.
>please ignore my entire past though because I'm a man and NOW I'm good ao who cares!
>also I refuse to date a woman who doesn't automatically know how to pulverize my cock like a complete whore.

At this point I'm convinced most of v are just closeted onions fagots who don't actually know the definition of being a cuck or being a real man.

>>716412402
>the libshit ideal of masculinity isn't a feminized man but an anthropomorphic welfare state
that's good. It's been said before but this summarizes it nicely
I'm stealing it

>>716398419 (OP)
Ain't nothing sincere about "old bad, nu good".

>>716409271
WINNER OF AN OSCAR FOR BEST PICTURE 2018
Or something like that

>>716398905
Because it sounds like it was written by someone screeching with impotent rage as their 3 chins wobble, I had ChatGPT rewrite it:

Modern media has embraced a sanitized, desexualized form of masculinity where men exist not as individuals with desire or agency, but as neutered protectors of surrogate children. Dubbed “Wholesome Chungus” or “Nu-Masculinity,” this archetype reduces male characters to lumbering, emotionless guardians—bald, bearded, and stripped of libido—whose only role is to serve others without question. From the Mandalorian to Joel in The Last of Us to the rebooted Kratos, these figures are marketed as stoic and strong, but in reality, they’re hollow symbols of performative masculinity designed to appease a culture uncomfortable with male sexuality or ambition. They embody not virtue, but sterilized obedience.

There.

>>716408638
What? While part of it was being ostracized by the Olympians, he was also still tormented by nightmares, wanted to just die, and was being forced to be the god of war, which is a constant additional reminder of what Ares did, and what Kratos did in his blind following of Ares.

>>716411463
No, he wasn't. Jesus you total fucking losers judging the character without actually looking at the character. You are the same type of faggot who thinks no matter what time you are born in you would always have the modern morally "correct" opinion and actions. Christ, Kratos might have been an angry man, but he was also a good men. He is, in fact, shown to be one of the best men in the entirety of Greece. And he is shit on for it by everyone in Greece, and by the audience who cry in their fucking Wheaties while getting their panties in a bunch because, "Some innocents died so he is clearly the biggest piece of shit ever, just ignore what the other Greeks, Persians, and Olympians are doing over there with the children, sacrifices, and curses."

>>716400310
If you think youtube and reddit comments are bad try getting on instagram and read those.

>>716412678
>please ignore my entire past though because I'm a man and NOW I'm good ao who cares!
>also I refuse to date a woman who doesn't automatically know how to pulverize my cock like a complete whore.
Who said these?

>>716398419 (OP)
Here's from my point of view

>>716407984
>i.... le don't care about anything!
wow so cool and mature bro

>>716404031
>What is this
That you sound like the kind of emasculated homo why obeys the traffic rules in Grand Theft Auto and waits for the traffic light to turn green... you're the kind of gayboi who in Halo doesn't melee the sleeping grunts.

Fag,

>>716398419 (OP)
he didn't become better, he became a faggot.

>>716412678
You could have picked a fresh soda, but you picked the bottle of soda that had 18 penises plunged down into it.

>>716412062
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpSvb_v7Kgo
off-topic, but here you go.

>>716410280
>pussies out and curls into a ball last second

>>716414748
That's not the worst one
https://youtu.be/Hk4ueY9wVtA

>>716398905
>protecting a pretty 14-year old girl
>they never have sex or any sexual tension
every time

>>716417031
girls that age don't do that kind of thing anon